[00:03] some of our community members and when we're doing a feedback session I always working on it? And in this particular case the songwriter said, I've been working on it since the late 90s. For us [00:15] You know, the the question is why have you been working on this song for so long and unable to finish it? In this particular case the songwriter was really honest and you know, they told us about the story, the fact that [00:29] it was very personal, the fact that the the language in the lyrics was really them personally and the blockage was that they just didn't know how to get to the end of this story. They they feared that they had put [00:44] too much of the story in the first two verses or the first two sections and there was nothing left to say. And so we went through this beautiful moment of talking about the song, talking about the fact that it was possibly in a form [00:56] that wasn't helping serve the song, that actually written it in a verse chorus form but it wanted to be in an AABA form. We took the refrain line and said maybe that's the point of the song and let's just, you know, work on that as [01:08] song. And it's a beautiful thing to work with a songwriter who's literally been carrying a song for decades. To then see in their eyes this realization that with a day's work they [01:21] to the end of this journey. So matter how long you've had a song, no matter how hard it feels to finish [01:33] or one little conversation that can unlock that for you and and help you get to the end of the song and I I find that just one of the most satisfying parts of the work we do and the the feedback sessions particularly [01:46] seem to be able to bring that kind of joy and that satisfaction to uh to songwriters that we work with. So yeah, food for thought.