--- title: 'This Funding Company DECEIVES Me by Sending Me to REAL...?' source: 'https://youtube.com/watch?v=1VKNYSYwfS8' video_id: '1VKNYSYwfS8' date: 2026-08-05 duration_sec: 1566 --- # This Funding Company DECEIVES Me by Sending Me to REAL...? > Source: [This Funding Company DECEIVES Me by Sending Me to REAL...?](https://youtube.com/watch?v=1VKNYSYwfS8) ## Summary The video explains the transition process from a funded (simulated) trading account to a real (live) account, based on the creator's personal experience. It details the criteria used by funding companies to promote traders, the steps involved, and the realities of the new account, including its limitations and the creator's critical view of the system. ### Key Points - **Introduction to the Topic** [00:01] — The creator introduces the topic: the process of moving from a funded account to a real account, a subject he hasn't seen explained elsewhere. - **Trader's Dream vs. Reality** [00:31] — Many traders dream of being promoted to a real account, believing it means the company trusts them and they'll split profits. The creator will explain the actual process and why it may not be as desirable. - **Creator's Success in Funded Trading** [01:35] — The creator has been trading funded accounts for a year, achieving significant results, including withdrawing almost $30,000 in one month. - **How Funded Trading Works** [02:02] — Traders pay a fee to take a challenge, then operate in a simulated environment. If they pass, they get a 'Sim Funded' account where they can earn real money from the company's pool, funded by losing traders' fees. - **The Transition to Real Trading** [03:23] — When a trader consistently takes money from the company's pool, the company may decide to move them to a real account to stop the cash flow drain. - **Criteria for Promotion** [05:11] — Three criteria: 1) Five consecutive withdrawals from a single account, 2) Reaching $100,000 in total withdrawals, 3) Discretionary decision by the risk team if they suspect manipulation. - **The Email and New Partner** [08:16] — The creator received an email congratulating him on upgrading his account and introducing Blue Row Capital, a real prop firm partner. This reveals that the funding company is not a real prop firm itself. - **New Account Conditions** [10:33] — The new real account is funded with $2,000, but the previous account (with $5,000 remaining) is closed. The new account has a $2,000 drawdown, but allows daily payouts, unlike the 5-day profit rule in the simulated phase. - **The Tedious Process** [13:03] — The transition involved 17 emails, document submission, and signing an employment contract with Blue Row Capital. The process was slow and full of obstacles. - **Research on Blue Row Capital** [14:23] — The creator researched Blue Row Capital, finding it's an LLC in Texas, not a regulated broker, and questioned whether orders actually go to the real market. - **The Real Account Setup** [15:30] — The creator opened a live account with Tradovate, a regulated broker, and was charged for CME data. This suggests the orders do go to the real market, but the funding company is not the one providing the capital. - **First Trades and Payout** [18:01] — The creator made a profit of $367, then $500, and withdrew $900 (80% split) after just one day of trading. The process is faster but the capital is much smaller. - **Why Staying in Sim Funded is Better** [18:56] — The creator argues that the real account offers less leverage and capital, making it less profitable than the simulated phase. He advises traders to stay in Sim Funded unless there's a real scaling plan. - **The Downside of Real Accounts** [20:03] — If you lose the real account, you're locked in a quarantine and can't buy new accounts, blocking your trading flow. The company gives only $2,000, which is a pittance compared to what you could earn in Sim Funded. - **No Incentive for Winning Traders** [21:37] — The company provides no scaling plan or incentive to continue trading consistently. The creator plans to withdraw profits repeatedly but not accumulate capital, as it doesn't make sense. - **Conclusion: Stay in Sim Funded** [22:06] — The creator concludes that it's better to stay in the Sim Funded phase, where leverage is higher and limits are lower, allowing for potentially larger profits. The real account is not worth the hassle. ### Conclusion The transition to a real account is not the golden ticket many traders imagine; it comes with reduced capital, less leverage, and no scaling plan. The creator advises staying in the simulated funded phase where the potential for profit is higher. ## Transcript title and thumbnail of this video, I understand I'm going to talk about something I haven't looked into it much, but I haven't heard anyone explain it yet, and that is how the process works when you go from a funding account to a real account when they starts out in funded trading, many of you, when you ask me and I've heard what you say, always have the intention of, uh, wow, I wish I could some withdrawals and in the end get sent to real trading, right? Because that would mean they're they see you're a good trader and therefore can trust you, that they can take you to the real market, not their simulator anymore, but they trust you so much that they send you to the real market, you assume the costs and you split the profit, right? That's what I see many traders want, how did this happen, right? In my case, as many of you know, I've been making a series of videos, as you can see here on screen, in which I share my experience in this last year in funding trading. Until a year ago, I had never operated a fund for professional purposes, so to speak. He had always operated some accounts, but in a rather arbitrary manner. And for a Esfera channel, which I always leave on screen here as a thank you, who, by the way, is currently open with his trading room, I think it will close in three or four days. So check it out if you want to train with a anchoring, like the one who taught me and from whom I make a living today. That's why , thanks to him, I'm leaving all the information in the description below, a significant discount below that I'll leave for you, okay? In case you're interested. So, in this last year I've been adding to my funding accounts, and I've had screen, which are really good, to be honest. These are incredible results, making me withdraw almost $30,000 last month alone. in just one month. And within this process, I have always found myself in the funding phase. In other all about, when you do a funding challenge, you pay a fee, a quota, right? They tell you a price to participate in the show, kind of platform, you either pass them or you don't, but if you pass them there's a moment when they send you to a simulated environment where you can earn money, right? you pay for the challenge, you operate with its rules within a totally virtual and simulated environment. If you pass the rules, they send you to what they call Sim Funded, which is the account where you can continue operating in a simulated virtual environment, but there, if you make money by following a series of rules, they pay you real money, okay? That's where I've been, as you can see here on screen, I've had, as you can see, several retreats, okay? We see $5,000 $4,000 $0,000 5,000 5,000 5,000 5,000 5,000 uh 2000. Don't you see here that all this money you see here on the screen is the product of a simulated account, of something I've been product of a simulated account, of something I've been paid with the money that other traders lose. In other words, if you pay the fee for this platform and try to pass the challenges and fail, most people are at that trading there is a pyramid where most lose and few win. What these types of companies do is pay me and all of us who earn money through the money they accumulate from people who pay fees, , that generates a lot of money and they pay the few of us who earn money with that pool of money they have been accumulating. Well, that's like always been in, the one most people stay in . But then there is another phase in which they, this type of company, when they see that you are taking a lot of money from them, because in the end you are stealing money from their revenue pool, it is their cash flow. Then they say, "Look, I have 1000 traders, they don't have many more, but I have 1000 traders." 996 traders, 997 constantly lose money money, cash flow. And with that money I pay the few who earn, I pay that money to the other . What's happening? which is cash flow. There comes a point where if I 've seen, this company, I've probably made, I don't know, 30, 40,000, right?, in the last few months. Well, these kinds of results hurt them because they're profits, and they obviously don't want to do that. And therefore, when they realize, based on criteria that I will explain now, that I can be a winning trader and that they don't want to taking too much money out of their cash flow, they decide to send you to real trading. And what does it mean that they decide to send you to Real? Well, from my experience, which I'm going to explain now, because I'm going to explain all the steps one by one that I've experienced in this process, it's not as beautiful as most people think. And this surely many of you want to get to the real thing, that is, you want an account funded to get to the real thing, but the truth is what I really think you should want, I'm going to explain at the end of the video you understand what I mean. Okay? So, how does this process toward reality begin? OK? As you can see, I 've shown you the withdrawals here on the screen, right? This is one of the accounts in this company that has sent me real money. And account, uh, I reach a series of profits, I withdraw, those drops are the withdrawals, okay?, that I have been making, right? So as you can see, there is one retreat, two retreats, three retreats, four and five retreats, okay? And this is the key. This fifth withdrawal, okay? The fact that this last point is what makes the company determine that you have already proven to be a sufficiently consistent trader to send you to real trading. Those types of companies have several criteria, okay? To send you to the real thing, because we don't even discovered. Uh, the criteria I 've seen are three. The first one companies that set a maximum number of withdrawals before sending you real money. It tells you, "Look, if you have four, five, or six withdrawals on my platform from consistent enough, and therefore we'll send you to the live account because we don't okay?" For them, that's the first criterion you're seeing, the one I met. The second criterion , as you can see here on the screen, is a rule that says that even if you don't have five consecutive withdrawals— consecutive, as you can see—from a single account, you qualify. I've had more withdrawals from other accounts with the same company, but in this specific account, I've had five. Okay? So, if you, for example, reach three or four withdrawals . Therefore, it has to be five consecutive withdrawals the first criterion. The second is that if, among other withdrawals you haven't made, consecutive withdrawals, you reach... $100,000 in withdrawals is also a milestone, a because they consider it too much money, that you've already squeezed them dry send you to a live account. That's the second criterion. And as you can see here on screen, the third element is also somewhat more discretionary, something that has to do with whether the risk team of this company, even if you haven't achieved five consecutive withdrawals or $100,000 in withdrawals, private company with its own rules and regulations, to determine that you are a trader who needs to be sent to a live account. For example, let's imagine that, like me people who do fund trading , we never want to move to a live account. And that's important, and that's why I'm going to explain it at the end of this video in my conclusions, but since we don't want to move to a the Sim Funded phases where we are paid directly from Their pool of money— let's imagine we manage to consistently make three or four withdrawals. Three or Three or four withdrawals, and we lose count. This, which seems very clever on our part, is actually a kind of dance company can determine at any point what we're doing, can identify us and see that we're voluntarily losing money on roughly withdrawals. And that obviously smells fishy , ​​it smells bad, and it's to decide that we have to switch to a real account. Therefore, they manually flag us, and from then on, they send us to a real account and remove us from their internal pool. Well, this has been my experience, my experience, right? I mean, I've three, right? I haven't even withdrawn $100,000 yet, and it wasn't done voluntarily by the company; I got there voluntarily, because I voluntarily decided here— switch to a real account. To explain the whole process, to get to the fifth retreat, and therefore, to show you the way. What was the next step I received? I received an email that you're going to see now, which is this one here, okay? Uh, I've okay? The editor will cover it for me, but basically what you're seeing, you can ? They tell me, "Hey, congratulations on upgrading your Flex account, which is one of the account types, to a basically it's a goal they set for you. So, they tell you, "Hey, from now on, part of this transition is going to involve upgrading, okay?" A Blue Row Capital. This is the name I want you to remember, okay? Blue Road Capital, which is your partner, your companion, your associate, which is a real prop firm. And this is important to me, okay? Because notice that he tells you, "Hey, I'm going to a prop firm, a funding test, he's telling you that he has another partner to whom he passes me on when I go to the real one, which is also a prop firm." So, here you should see something that isn't working, in case you weren't clear on this information. A funding test, a real prop, sends you to another prop firm that is its partner. Do you realize that one of the two is not a prop? So that's what I want you to see, that basically what they've made me do is open an account with one of use and we're not in real life, it's not . It's simply a funding company internal pool of losses, okay? So, while you're at structure that these types of companies have created goes like this. There are two or three the three that I think I am right now. The first of these is the funding test, totally marketing and simulated and virtual, and in which everyone is. You doing professional trading, but in reality you are not. Your order from a simulated survey, you are always paid with the losses of other traders, from the accounts that are paying out. When you switch to a real market, what they do is open an account for you with my partner, which is a real market account, in this case Blu Capital. As you'll see, this is the important part, and they will decide whether your order goes to the real market or if it also stays in a kind of hybrid pool where they decide, depending on whether you are a good trader or hedge with you or not, when you go to the real market and when you don't. And what features does this new account have? For me, as you can see here, Your Life Parameters are the following, which is that they give me an account of $2,000, okay? They account of $2,000, okay? They fund me in the new real tip bank, $2,000, and they take away, which is the important thing, what you see here. Note that I ended this account with $5,000 in my last withdrawal. In other words, I could still get money out of them with $5,000. He could have easily made 5,000 because he had the margin to do so. Therefore, they take away, they delete this account, they tell me that it has failed. Do you see that it has reached the Obviously, I made the withdrawal and I still had $5,000 left, and they send me those $5,000 , which are virtual, and they fund me in their new prop firm with real money, $2,000 Drawdown, but with you and I would have as traders if we opened a real account with a broker, for example, with $2,000, since it's not just $2,000, but $2,000 with high operate up to four minis or 40 regulated broker, like Trade Station or Interactive Brokers, for example, you can't use $2,000 to buy four minis into the market, okay? So, uh, if because you're within that firm prop. And there's also a very interesting condition that I'm going to show you how I've used, which is daily payouts, okay? In other words, instead of in this phase that you see here, in the 5 days of profits in this company for every time I wanted to make a withdrawal. So, what we have is the following. Let's look at the statistics here, for example, for April and March. OK? As you can see, I make profits, but I have to withdrawal. Do you see this 5000 it says here? These are the withdrawals I've been making. Notice that it is 1 2 3 4 5 withdrawal. 1 2 3 4 5 withdrawal. One. We continue. 2 3 4 5 withdrawal. Do you see that there always has to be a 5-day profit margin before withdrawal? So, in the simulated phases, you're forced to make a minimum of 5 days of profits with a minimum profit depending on each company in order to withdraw, that disappears here. Since they tell me that I'm already playing for real money, and what they want is not so much if I win, on the contrary, that in principle it's fine for them if I win, they don't care about putting that 5-day barrier on me, even though they was taking money from them and what they wanted was for me to lose. And therefore, here when they pass it on to me, it doesn't matter anymore , as my order goes from beginning to end, as we will see now, they can pay me daily, direct communication with their risk management team . So, how has that seems very easy, doesn't it? Well, actually it has n't been. As you can see, here again I'll cover up everything that can't be seen, okay? But I just want you to see this here. This is my contact information for Felix, okay? That's the contact I've had with 17 emails. It took me many days and many emails to finally be allowed to open my real account. That has, let's say, continue operating with the account, because accounts from this company. They open the door for me, they have to transfer me to the real estate office, they have to documents, I've had to send them typical documents like ID cards, sign a series of agreements with their new owners, okay? I'm working therefore, who's going to pay me for this new position at Blue Row Capital? Futures, is no longer paying me, so from now on, the payments will come from somewhere else. Therefore, I have to sign an employment contract because this is an company. So it's been tedious, right? 17 emails in which they really put a lot of obstacles in my way, they told me very absurd things to delay finally they send me to this, like I said, right? Blue Row Capital. I didn't know this existed, so I've done a little research, haven't I? This is the page of this Prof firm and I've done some research because I wanted to see if this was works, where it is, and I haven't found much, okay? The truth is that I asked the AI ​​here, and as we can see from what it tells you, it's a the evaluation and capitalization of futures traders, designed to operate operators with proven results into professionals, blah blah blah. I've seen that it's basically in Texas, okay? It's an LLC in Texas and it's anywhere because it's its own, okay? So it's not within any kind of US regulatory standards as a broker. What do they actually do? So here I said, "Damn, if this uh this prof or whatever, it's not a real account, it does n't have access to the real market, I like if I were to open a PlayStation account with my money and it sends me directly to the real market." I thought, how is it then that they're sending me another internal pull order where, as I said, they're going to do some kind of hybrid hedging, I don't know, between sometimes sending my orders and sometimes not, like many CFD brokers do, I don't know, I wondered about orders, where do they go? Are they really going to Mercado Real ? Am I a real market trader now or not? And I'm still a funded trader. And the truth is that what they here, is open an account on Tradobate, okay? Traditate, which is everyone in futures. You probably work with Bate is very famous. And when you open an account with Trade Bateit, they give you the option to choose simulated account or real account, and all of you who simulated data, okay? That's where market data is purchased. What happened? I got the same thing. They told me, "Hey, open a new bait account again." But now activate the following. contact here, I said, "Hey, in this case, baited, when we open an account, do I click Account, because here I wanted to see if it would say ' an internal pull again and this ' real' thing is a total lie, but in reality he answered 'life account'" and right at that moment they charged me for CME data, okay? The data for futures that you pay for when you trade futures. They charged me, which as you can see here are these $16 with which I started, that is, those $2,000 that they charge me. This is the account. Since I Capital, the interface is the same as Myfunded Futures, but I'm already at Blue Row Capital and instead of those $2,000 that they say they fund me with, you start with -156 because those are the data charges that they take directly from your account. The good thing is that they don't charge you from outside, but rather they deduct it from the outside, but rather they deduct it from the $000, but it's no longer $000, it's 1850. charging me for real market data and making me open a real account with Tradovit, which is a regulated broker, this implies that what this type of company seems to do is the following: it has its first stage, are. You operate there in simulation within their pool, they pay you with the losses, blah blah blah blah, what we all know, they move you to real, but real firm, which does have a real profit split, but that company is not the one that sends you real, but they are the ones that fund you with capital. They are a funding company, a prop firm, a proprietor firm, because they have money within their company, within their house. They have assessed you in some way through Myfunded Futures and then leverage you with their money, but they hire their liquidity provider or their broker, who will have their your order to the market, okay? These are the three levels. So, as you can see here, I've been operating for a few days now, I think a day or two, I don't remember. And as you can see, I've made a profit of $367, okay? Let's see if we can see it. See? Here it is directly on the day of payment and then the next day I already made 500 profit, of which I have 2300 left after the subtraction and I was able to withdraw this, as you can see here in payouts a few days ago, okay? I am recording this on the 10th, because yesterday, on the 9th, I withdrew the 80% split of the $2,300. Of those $2,300 that I had generated, I withdrew $900 which, as you can see, have good thing is that I was able to withdraw after just one day of trading and I was able to take that profit. With $1,800 I've generated $2,300, and I've been able to payment process is still quite slow. It is true that we went down platform, since it is totally simulated and they pay me with their money, I got paid conclusion, I want you to see, I want to explain something to you, and that is, as you can see, I've generated about 2000 in one day, and that's spectacular. I understand, you'll try to get more, but the thing is, as I said before, our goal as traders shouldn't be, if we're funding, to be in these accounts, because the capital, the leverage they give you with those 800, 2000 is much less than what you simulated phase, where they pay you directly their internal POL, and that's why most of us who do this, like me, never want to move to that. for, as you've seen, quite a long time. You have to write a lot, account, you have to submit documentation; that blocks your operations for a be generating profits. And to think that I was coming from 20-something thousand, $30,000 last month. They give you a bill for $2,000, which is nothing, huh? Think about it: in an account of 50,000 or 100,000 that you 're funding, we don't actually have since it's simulated and you have a lot of leverage, you can do whatever you you have a cushion, like I did, of $10,000 or $12,000, you can keep making profits nonstop. Not here. Here you start with $2,000 and if you lose it they had those 5,000 or 6,000 left over . They've taken away that money, which is much more than 2,000, and now if I lose, I'll be left with nothing and have to the worst part of all this is that when you switch to a real account and lose it leave you locked in a kind of standby quarantine for what they've can hardly buy accounts, so my trading flow is completely blocked by a company that, in principle, wants to make a living off to understand. First, in the evaluation phase they don't they want losing traders so that they continue to generate cash flow and never happen to be somewhat successful and withdraw 20, 30, 40, 50,000, they're going to take all your profits and give you only $2,000, which is a pittance. Think about it: if they really wanted to make money with me, because they consider me a very good trader and I've passed their phases and rules, they would n't fund me with $2,000, they would fund me with much more or give me some n't have any kind of de-escalation plan here because that might motivate me. If they continue evaluating you." Obviously, we're converting you to real money, and therefore I can't give give you, but since we see that you have the capacity to generate income and we're going to share that profit, I'm going to start you with $2,000. If you can prove it with a series of consistency, I'll increase that to 4,000, then we can scale up, well, I'm a profirm, aren't I? I will increase your investment as much as I deem appropriate, based on your profirm, aren't I? I will increase your investment as much as I deem appropriate, based on your anything to me, they haven't said anything about that to me. They put $000 into an enjoy." And that tells me, obviously, that they're not looking for winning trades. At least up to this point, they're not providing me with any kind of incentive or interest to continue trading consistently going to do is, I have those $2,000, I'm going to squeeze them dry, I'll make $2,000, I'll withdraw it , I'll make $2,000, I'll withdraw it, I'll say it like that, but I won't accumulate capital, I won't leave because it doesn't make any sense. They're not giving me the resources significant amounts of money. So traders, as you can see, this is starting with Funding to reaching real trading, which is what many of you dream of. best to stay in the Sim Funded phase, not the real one. At Real Sociedad, as you can see, it has one good thing which is the daily profits, but in reality I don't care if it's from one day to five days if you do good trading. No, for me that's not very significant, honestly. In terms of their contact with their risk managers, I haven't received any serious support regarding, for example, any serious support regarding, for example, setting a daily limit, because an external manager might be activated. The real, original companies offer an infrastructure for analyzing your strategies, your data, and managing maximum drawdowns, daily limits, profit, and stop-loss levels to ensure everything runs smoothly. Not here, here they've thrown me into the river and given me $2,000, which is nothing to them, to operate freely, right? , because if I lose these $2,000 and it's their real money, well, think about it, I was making them more than $ 20,000 or $30,000 last month. So, it's worth it for him . They just stopped cutting off their loss flow that I was generating for them to give me $2,000 in funding, and if I lose it, well, better for them, because it's not better than not continuing to give, paying me with their that stuff people are saying, no, it's just that they want to fund you and find real traders because that way they can split the profit with you. Just think, they gave me $2,000. I just took out 2,300 from them, of which they paid me and they took 400. Do you really think that $400 is what these companies are looking for? That $400 per trader, huh, and the fact that most people probably don't get these withdrawals in real life is a pittance, really, guys. Stop living in a where you think these types of companies are made to find 's not the case. In other words, what they want, as is obvious and I think is fine, in their game, I benefit, is that they have an internal pool, they have their the majority losing and a few winning and they pay you with the losses and I think that's fine, but let's not sell the idea that the objective is to send players to a real account because at least most famous don't give you a real scaling plan where it makes sense to point these companies demonstrate that they winning traders and implement a real-money scaling plan that says, "Hey, you're moving to real trading, orders are going to the market, and what I'm going to do is scale that profit to say, "Look, the process might be tedious, it's slow, but it makes sense to go live. Then I won't care about the four or simulated phase, because we're talking about millions in management here. If there's an option to scale to millions, it makes much more sense to try to be a real-money funded trader." But until then, until that ecosystem exists that truly seeks out winning traders, for me, do what I do, I think it's more advantageous to be in the Sim Funded account, where we higher leverage with much lower limits than these, where we can potentially . So, that's all. Traders, I'll be explaining my results throughout this month , how I'm managing this live account. Obviously, I other companies, and so on. So, I'll give you my usual month, which are actually very good. That's about it. I hope you different. I haven't heard anyone explaining this kind of thing, so I do n't know if it will be helpful for those of you who don't know how all this works. And that's all. think, what you believe, whether I'm right or wrong . Keep in mind that this is also new to me. So, I'll draw conclusions. Vote soon. And it would be been through this could tell me in the comments so that we can all get a , without further ado, I'll say goodbye. Lots of profit as always. As I said before, down below If you really want to make a living from funding, you have three or four days—which I join Vicente's trading room at Trade Esfera. He okay? I'm there every week doing psychology sessions too, check out the link I've included below.