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title: 'I Love Linux - WAN Show March 13, 2026'
source: 'https://youtube.com/watch?v=3W-8rlGD9_s'
video_id: '3W-8rlGD9_s'
date: 2026-07-20
duration_sec: 13169
channel: 'Linus Tech Tips'
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# I Love Linux - WAN Show March 13, 2026

> Source: [I Love Linux - WAN Show March 13, 2026](https://youtube.com/watch?v=3W-8rlGD9_s)

## Summary

In this episode of the WAN Show, Linus recounts his chaotic journey to set up a remote broadcast from South Korea after forgetting his gear, relying on Linux and a tech mall adventure to salvage the show. The hosts also discuss Valve's Steam Machine progress, Intel's new CPUs, and the state of Linux gaming.

### Key Points

- **Show Setup Crisis** [00:07] — Linus forgot his WAN show kit at home, forcing him to rely on his Linux laptop and a trip to a Korean tech mall to find a microphone and webcam.
- **Tech Mall Adventure** [06:09] — Linus visited Yongsan Electronics Market in Seoul, finding it a mix of promising and disappointing, with many shops closed or unhelpful, but eventually securing a Rode NT USB Plus microphone.
- **Linux Saves the Day** [24:00] — Linus used the 'Iriun Webcam' app on Linux to use his iPhone as a webcam, which worked seamlessly after struggling with other solutions.
- **Linux Challenge Update** [31:58] — Linus shared his positive experience with Linux Mint on his laptop, noting improvements over previous years, but criticized the Linux community for toxicity.
- **Gaming on Linux** [38:41] — Linus played God of War on Linux via Steam Proton with good performance, and Slay the Spire 2 worked flawlessly out of the box.
- **Nvidia RTX 3060 Revival** [01:07:05] — Nvidia is restarting production of the RTX 3060 on Samsung's 8nm node to address supply constraints, potentially extending driver support for the 3000 series.
- **Intel's New CPUs** [01:24:20] — Intel announced Core Ultra 7 270K Plus and Core Ultra 5 250K Plus with improved clock speeds and memory support, claiming up to 13% gaming performance increase over predecessors.
- **Google Play Store Fee Changes** [01:35:56] — Google is reducing its in-app purchase fee from 30% to 20% for first-time installs and 10% for subscriptions, and allowing third-party billing systems in select regions.
- **Linux on PS5** [01:59:45] — A security engineer ported Linux to a PS5 Slim using an exploit called 'Bypervisor', enabling it to run Steam games like GTA 5 at 1440p 60fps with ray tracing.
- **Live Nation Settlement** [02:08:23] — Live Nation reached a surprise settlement with the DOJ, keeping Ticketmaster but capping service fees at 15% and banning exclusive contracts with large venues.
- **Steam Machine Update** [02:14:11] — Valve confirmed that Steam Machine, Steam Frame, and Steam Controller are still on track for release in the first half of 2026, though pricing and launch dates are not yet finalized.
- **Apple MacBook Neo Impact** [02:16:19] — Asus co-CEO called Apple's $599 MacBook Neo a 'shock' to the PC industry, though he downplayed it as a content consumption device due to its 8GB RAM limit.
- **Hisense TV Ads** [02:39:22] — Hisense TV owners in Spain and Britain reported unskippable ads appearing during basic functions like powering on and switching inputs, sparking user backlash.
- **Sony Dynamic Pricing** [02:55:29] — Sony is testing dynamic pricing on the PlayStation Store, offering varying discounts of up to 27.8% to different users, which the hosts criticized as anti-consumer.
- **BYD EV Charging Breakthrough** [03:09:38] — BYD tested a 1,500 kW flash charging network in Shenzhen, adding 249 miles of range in 5 minutes, three times faster than current ultra-rapid chargers in North America and Europe.

### Conclusion

The WAN Show highlighted the resilience of Linux for remote work and gaming, while also covering major tech news like Nvidia's RTX 3060 revival, Intel's CPU refresh, and Sony's controversial dynamic pricing experiments.

## Transcript

WAN show. We got a great show lined up for you guys this week that almost didn't happen thanks to Linux, but then almost did happen thanks to Linux and
then totally did happen and we're so totally back thanks to Linux. So, I've got a lot of gonna be thanks to Windows. So, hey, we made it. No, I got a I got a lot of I got a lot of Linux challenge updates for y'all
this week. It's going to be freaking awesome. Uh in other sort of uh tangentially Linux related news, it looks like Valve is still on track to deliver their Steam frame and Steam machine in the first half of this year.
So, that's pretty exciting. They're still working out the details of pricing still working out the details of pricing and exact delivery times, but uh hey, if they don't deliver it in Q1 or excuse me, if they don't deliver it in the
first half, then at least we'll have a new funny meme for the Valve Time website. >> True. Uh Intel's new CPUs are in quotes their fastest gaming desktop processors ever.
hope so. Yeah, pretty much. But hey, we'll talk about that. Hopefully that'll be cool. Also more Linux news. Linux has been hacked onto a PS5, effectively turning Sony's console into kind of a Steam machine that can play PlayStation
>> Honestly, >> kind of cool. >> Kind of sick. [laughter] >> Pretty sick. >> We got to We got to do the thing. Hold on. I can I think I can
on. I can I think I can >> Oh my god,
I'll do it. Vessie, Factor Meals, ODU, and Squarespace laptop partner, Razer, and chair partner, Razer. >> I would give anything for a Razer chair right now, Luke. I am sitting on a stool
[laughter] that is so crammed up against the bed behind me that the the like rock hard for whatever reason frame around the bed is digging into my butt and cutting off my circulation. >> Rock hard things in your butt. Uh dude,
show setups that I've had have been pretty precarious. I'm not going to lie. >> what do you want to talk about first? Should we talk about my adventure getting the W show going? >> I was going to say tech mall, but yeah,
that and then we'll jump into a real topic. Then we'll come back to your uh tech mall. >> Sure. It's it's all kind of related and it all started when I was still in the Uber on my way to the airport and I
realized, >> holy crap, I forgot my WAN show away kit. So, you know how the last WAN show that I did remotely, the quality was about it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I was using um an Elgato
Wave 3 microphone. So, I was just using like a desktop um like kind of podcasty >> And then >> I was And then for the camera, I was using that like super bougie Razer one from our webcam roundup. Yes.
>> The like $400 webcam. And I was like, "This is freaking awesome." And I was in the Uber and I realized I didn't bring it. It was right next to my
forget. >> Is it was kind of interesting cuz you did bring it to ZTW even like that's how like default it is for you to bring it. >> but it didn't didn't come on this trip, I guess.
>> Well, what happened is I got interrupted in my packing multiple times because I have kids and stuff with me, so they needed help. And when my routine gets interrupted, >> I I can't I can't do anything. I I'm
useless. I'm worthless. Hate me. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, I was in the Uber. I realized I didn't have it. So, Ivonne, because she is, I don't know, a saint was like, "Oh,
well, you know, why don't we, as part of our trip, go to a tech mall and maybe you could make a video." Hey, >> seriously, find a wife who supports as Ivonne does. And >> that's amazing.
>> that's amazing. >> Uh, yeah, it's crazy. And I was like, >> wait, so did she film? Is this like old school? >> Sorry, I'm getting excited. I'm getting excited.
>> I'm telling my story. I'm telling my story. So So she um So she's like, "Oh, we should we should, you know, yeah, you you could do that." And I was like, you know, I had really planned to just be on vacation this time. This one time
I had planned to just be on vacation. We could just go to Asia and I could not could just go to Asia and I could not shoot a video in a tech mall. And then I was like, well, okay, let's have a look at what my options are if I don't go to
the tech mall. And I went, "Wait a second. My laptop is running Kubuntu right now." And I have I had a bunch of issues on the plane on the way over here trying to get screen capture going because I was
gaming on the plane. And because I I didn't bother to convert my handheld >> I was like, "Okay, well, my gaming machine for this trip then is my laptop machine for this trip then is my laptop because I have to game on Linux." Dude,
I had so many problems, >> but then not any of the problems that were anything to do with gaming. So, we >> Okay, >> the point is we got here and I was like,
tech mall thing. And then I was like, wait, >> can I even join the WAN show in my laptop's current state? Because OBS was a mess. I couldn't get screen capture working because I was trying to show
on the plane on the way over here and I wanted to record them and I literally couldn't. Um, still haven't solved it. I'm sure I can, but I just haven't put in a ton of time to solve it yet. Uh, so I fired it up and I was like, uh-oh, we
are in serious trouble here. Because what I didn't realize is that while my camera works, the camera on this uh this ASUS machine that I'm that I'm demoing right now that I'm using for the Linux challenge, super cool machine, Stricks
challenge, super cool machine, Stricks Halo, OLED screen, beautiful machine, Halo, OLED screen, beautiful machine, awful webcam, just horrendous. awful webcam, just horrendous. So, the webcam sucked. And even worse,
my a my onboard audio, it turns out, wasn't working. And I didn't realize that for I've been I've been Linux pilled on this thing for I think two pilled on this thing for I think two weeks now. The reason I didn't notice is
because I I almost exclusively use my laptop docked. So I'm always running over uh I'm always using a USB audio device or an HDMI audio device which
device or an HDMI audio device which does work or I'm using my AirPods which does work or I'm using my AirPods which do work. my actual onboard audio doesn't work. >> And so I So [laughter] I'm in the hotel
able to do this?" And I just plug my headphones into my laptop and I go, "Holy crap, I don't have a m my So I would normally use this mic." And then I would use my headphones and neither of them were working. I was like,
"Okay, what now? I can't go back to Windows. That's not in the spirit of the challenge. So, what are we going to do? All right. We got to go to a tech mall. We're going to the tech mall. So,
pause. Just to pause. >> You're We're getting some choppiness. >> Is this cuz you're on the other side of the planet like I'm looking for input your laptop. >> No, this is me using uh a solution that
right. >> That I that I I think you're going to like I think you're going to like the solution. Is it a perfect solution? >> Yeah. >> Is my audio good? Is it just the video
that chops a bit? >> Uh the audio I mean it's I can It's clear. It's not as high quality as we've sometimes had on remote calls, but it's >> No, audio seems fine. I think it's just the video, I think.
>> All right. Okay. So, I headed to the tech mall, which um the Wikipedia article indicates is amazing, you know, and I found some other sort of raw raw
Korea type articles that are like, "Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. It's the It's awesome. >> That sounds great." And then I found some recent reviews on Trip Advisor and found some recent discussion on Reddit
found some recent discussion on Reddit that it's maybe seen better days and is quote unquote a ghost town and quote unquote full of scammers. And um so I
went in with very mixed expectations. It's gigantic. It's across um over 20 It's gigantic. It's across um over 20 buildings and totals like 5,000 shops. buildings and totals like 5,000 shops. So unlike you know Simlim Square or
So unlike you know Simlim Square or unlike um the one that I went to in um oh what's it called? The the the the Taipei one. Um it's not a mall. It's more like um like oh I'm gonna pronounce it wrong but like Wong Bay uh like like
the big tech district >> in uh in Shenzhen. It's it's it's more >> So it's just like it's like a district and some of it is you know corporate offices and some of it is tech malls and some of it is more like traditional
malls that just have a bunch of tech on >> So, I had a simple objective, Luke. A simple I had a simple objective, Luke. A simple objective. I wanted a desk [snorts] USB
microphone and a bougie webcam >> at any time. Anytime has a simple objective. [laughter] It's like, oh no, complicated objectives and then maybe things will be easier. I don't I
[laughter] don't know. [gasps] >> It's so true though. Like, seven gamers, objective. [laughter] got it done. got it done. >> Yeah. I don't know. For bonus points,
for bonus points, I was like, "Hey, it'd be kind of cool to have a little LED actually look dec." >> Sure. >> Sure. >> All right. So, I made my way through
>> All right. So, I made my way through four or five floors of this place. And first, it seemed extremely promising. Just about the first store I walked into had a little like razor desk microphone and I was like, "Oh, this is great. This
was basically effortless. I'm I'm going to be good to go." But hey, you know, I don't want to buy the first thing I see. I'm not that kind of guy. I want to I want to scrapyard hunt a little bit. I want I want to see what else they got.
So anyway, I I I like pour through this place and it dude, it's a journey. It's a journey. It ended up being like a very old school video. I actually filmed it completely myself.
>> So I'm just on an iPhone. I've got my mic pack and I'm just exploring this tech mall and the ups and downs are crazy. I'm I'm like this is I'm probably more excited about this than like I I don't know that just that sounds great.
awesome. >> At one point at one point shortly after noticing an entire store dedicated to Noctua, which was pretty cool. >> I was like on the verge of giving up and
I find a Logitech store and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, that's it. That's the solution to my problem. And I go, wait. Oh. Oh. Uh oh. It's just mice. >> Whoa. Okay. >> He's got two webcams. He has the
>> He's got two webcams. He has the dinkiest webcam of all time and the other ever so slightly less dinkiest webcam of all time and no microphones. And then finally, I was like, "Okay, well, I don't want to walk away
completely empty-handed. I'm going to go get that micro and the shop's closed. Every other shop in the entire mall is open. The one shop I I went everywhere microphone. Lots of like crappy tacky gaming headsets. No desktop USB
microphones. They're freaking closed. So, I'm just like, okay, we're we are getting to the point now where we are starting to run out of time. And I have nothing. I have no microphone. I have no webcam. And I
especially have no LED light. So, I'm just like, I'm going to go I'm So, I'm just like, I'm going to go I'm going to go to the Noctua store because they have an entire Noctua store. They're just probably based and
[laughter] I'm going to ask them for help because I did ask I did ask some other people for help and they were basically just like no English. Goodbye. And I was like, okay, I mean, fair enough, right? Like, yeah, fine.
>> Yeah. But which is funny though because in general um I'm in South Korea if nobody figured that out yet from sort of the contextual clues. I everywhere else I've gone people have been like trip over themselves to be
helpful helpful. >> Like I'll just a little bit confused. >> I I spent like like [snorts] 4 seconds looking at a metro map just to make sure
stairwell to to go to the right terminus station. Right. And some guy walks over do you need help? Are you lost?" I'm like, "No, no, I'm actually good." But wow, like, "Thank you." Um, been absolutely incredible. Not in the tech
mall for some reason. The vibe was very like like you make eye contact with them didn't see him." Like, >> and then even like like like laughing to like going out of their way to ignore me right now. I'm like, "Okay, sure."
>> It might just be the one building that I started in, though. Anyway, the Noctua dudes, absolute bros. Uh, we used Google Translate and we figured it out and they Translate and we figured it out and they sent me to a different building where
once again I found something I needed like immediately. Hold on, I'm just going to check. Yeah. Uh, I walked basically through the door and into a basically through the door and into a shop with a Rode NT USB Plus, which is a
perfectly chromulent desktop microphone. Except once again, I was like, "Well, come on. I'm not going to I'm not going to just buy the first thing I see. Never mind that it's like getting to be close to Ivonne and the kids are done at the
zoo and we should probably get together for dinner at some point, but I want to look around a little bit because dude, this place was nuts in terms of like camera and production gear." Like, they had I think it was what was it like an
Mark II or something like that. like multiple used camera bodies of that caliber right next to each other amidst like a hundred other production grade camera bodies just like dude you'd never get away with this kind of thing in
North America just like on the ground floor of this mall like right next to thousands of dollars worth of camera bodies just like sitting on the counter anything >> um and like and full of like secondhand
stuff tons of secondhand tech actually in both in the first mall which was more like PC hardware and in the second mall that ended up being more like video production and then also PC hardware and also like the bougiest audio equipment.
Dan, you'd get such a kick out of this place. Like I saw turntables that were way more art than they were actually meant to be a turntable as far as I could tell. Anyway, I walk into the place, I get a quote. Okay, how much is
it? Nothing's got pricing on it in a lot of the shops. So, they just like they pull out a calculator and it's like you ain't calculating nothing. You're just typing a number in. Like you just they they
just use it so that they can I don't know seem like they calculated the automotive dealerships do this too? If they don't say it, if they just show it to you, it doesn't like impact as much. I think I think it's like a
psychological thing. I think so. cuz dealerships will like write down the number and like slide it over to you on paper so they don't have to say it. Um >> really >> I wonder if chat's going to chime in. In
Japan they use calculators show prices everywhere too. Maybe it's so that there is trouble of >> miscommunication barrier maybe. >> Yeah. Like I could I could definitely see that.
bike. >> So he negotiation tool. Maybe it's both. price on his calculator and I go, "Okay, well, you know, I want to shop around a first thing I see." And I go and I look it up after I leave it. I'm like, "Oh my
god, that's like $100 more than if I just bought this thing at B&H." So, while it's a >> a perfectly good desktop microphone, and while I'll be honest with you guys, right, like I I'm, you know, let's let's
be real, the land show must go on. And if it came down to it, I would buy it so that I can be coming to you guys with reasonable quality from halfway around reasonable quality from halfway around the world. But I don't like just burning
>> Yeah. >> So, I was like, "Okay, [snorts] I need to try to find something else." Dude, if I'd been looking for like a like a a hammer microphone and I wanted
like a professional like like audio mixer or whatever, dude, I'd have been I'd have been so good. So awesome. Uh if I wanted a road like like camera mounted
so good. I couldn't find a single other place that had a USB microphone even in this second mall. And I was like starting to lose hope. And then and then this is actually kind of amazing. Totally
serendipitous. I was going past this store kind of like talking about the the store kind of like talking about the the the one one side of it and Buddy gets like real mad at me for having my camera out because some of the stores here in
particular, the gaming ones, they do not want you filming their storefronts. And I don't know if it's because they have knockoff stuff or like pirated software or they have like emulated software running as part of their display. I
whatever their reasons are for it. There was one like uh like very Nintendo shop when I had my phone out. I was like, "Sorry, bro. I like honestly don't didn't even care about your store." So,
didn't even care about your store." So, uh sure. Anyway, I was going past this like this island in the middle of the mall and and I and I I accidentally shot it and he was like bro was like super mad and then that actually made me stop
and I realized that and oh and he got mad at me about wearing a backpack too. my backpack. And because I stopped because he yelled at me, I realized that because he yelled at me, I realized that he also had the like the the little hole
he also had the like the the little hole in the wall next to it and he had an NT USB Plus in there. And I was like, "Okay, well look, we got off on the wrong foot." But I'll tell you what, I'm going to take my backpack off. You can
I'm going to look a little bit more closely. [laughter and snorts] closely. [laughter and snorts] And he gave me a way better price. So, >> Okay, >> I'm coming to you guys from a Rode NT
>> I'm coming to you guys from a Rode NT USB Plus. And I had long since given up USB Plus. And I had long since given up on finding a bougie webcam. So, I went on finding a bougie webcam. So, I went all in, Luke. Chips all in on the table
on being able to use my phone as my webcam, which is where the Linux saves the day comes in at the end of this story. Okay. Interesting.
>> Buddy Buddy with the mic also had what what were what were the other things I needed? Okay. Right. Right. Right. I needed a stand and a uh and a light. The light ended up not being great. I've got this uh what is it? It's a small rig. I
want to say P96. Um yeah, more like poo poo 96 because this thing, as far as I can tell, just makes everything I pointed at worse. [laughter] Dan had me turn it off before the show.
So, I also bought a stand and a light that are that are pretty bad. And then from another one down the like just down the walkway in the mall, I got a little phone tripod that's also a selfie stick and and that's what I'm coming to you
guys from there. So, it's just over my my my laptop webcam. So, last night I get back to the room, land shows in the morning for me, right? like it's a 9:00 a.m. starter, whatever it was. So, I'm not going to have time to go out
>> shopping and recjigure a solution. >> Literally >> don't have another SSD to like put Windows on this laptop and get that working cuz I've done the whole uh phone as a webcam thing before,
as a webcam thing before, >> but never on Linux. First, I get the mic working. the mic's working, but like OBS wasn't recording
troubleshooting that unfortunately I tried to record and ultimately I don't think I was able to record because the mic wasn't recording any of it. So, yeah, cool. That probably won't make it into the video. And then I was like,
into the video. And then I was like, okay, I need to figure out this camera. So I found uh three solutions suggested by AI by AI all of which apparently are Ubuntu ready
all of which apparently are Ubuntu ready uh Debian ready um I'm not using Ubuntu uh Debian ready um I'm not using Ubuntu I'm using Kubuntu or Ubuntu it's Ubuntu not Ubunt Ubuntu but it's hard for me to remember that anyway I'm using Kubuntu
but that's basically just Ubuntu with Kitty so it should be anything anything Ubuntu I should be good to go. So, I fire up my uh what what's what's it called? Home discover, which is the kind of the app store that Kubuntu comes
with. And even though I've already configured it to use um what are the what are the ones that I added? I added FlatHub and I think I added something else. two of the three suggestions for use
your phone as a webcam things didn't show up or they like basically yeah didn't work and then I found this one that is rated like three stars
stars Ian webcam for Linux v2.9.1 there was literally nothing to configure. Um I I I don't think I have
configure. Um I I I don't think I have ever used anything this seamlessly before in my life. [snorts] You've just got a drop down. Which camera would you got a drop down. Which camera would you like? Back camera. Back telephoto.
>> Back ultra wide. >> What was that? [laughter] something. [laughter] >> What do you mean monkey? That's my face, >> I know. No, I think one of them wasn't you. No, I swear. I swear. [laughter]
>> Did anyone else see it? I swear. Was there not Dan? Did you see that? Did >> I'm I'm pulling up playback. >> What was that? that was that was my face, bro. >> No, different.
format. You just pick your resolution and you pick your frame rate. >> And then there's another one for whether you want to use the audio from your iPhone. That's it. And you're just [laughter]
That's it. And you're just [laughter] you're just good to go. What? What? [laughter and gasps] >> Apparently, it was it was zoomed in, super blown out, and upside down. [laughter]
>> Just screen cap it. >> My bad. My bad. Okay. Sorry. >> Sorry. Hold on one second. >> It's It's [laughter] monitor is going to. >> So, I connected with a cable and that
didn't seem to do anything. So, I'm just on hotel Wi-Fi. It just >> immediately worked and has not been perfect, >> but it has like basically worked for as long as I've
been streaming with you today. So, >> I am completely coming to you Linux live and it's going great thanks to Irene webcam v2.9.1.
cool. >> It's been it's been sort of almost like >> It's been it's been sort of almost like a like a a microcosm of my entire Linux a like a a microcosm of my entire Linux experience. Um, even like over the years
if I try to do something complicated, it's shocking how how somebody thought of that and built a solution for it, it tends to be. >> and when I try to do this [laughter] when I try to do the simplest bloody
thing, [laughter] it breaks. >> Let me install Steam. Gone. Let me let me use my phone's camera as a webcam. Instantly works. >> That's crazy. See, like I would have I would have been scared of that problem
>> yeah, >> I'm surprised that was just like one shot. That's really cool, actually. >> I was I was scared of this problem. And like I I don't know, man. And you know what's funny is uh I saw someone
cringing that I'm using AI as part of the Linux challenge. But there's two things, right? One is that that's how people are going to do it. You don't have to like it, but you do have to just kind of sit down and accept it. Like all
of my normie friends and family, they go straight for the AI when they want to >> And you don't have to take my word for it. That's just like a fact. And that's it. That's just like a fact. And that's just like declining use of of
just how it is. And you can you can hate it. Y it. That that's how people are doing things. things. >> And what is Sorry, you can keep going.
Number two is honestly it's been way more useful. When I was trying to figure out my screen recording issue, I came up I came across a uh like a discussion I came across a uh like a discussion thread that had I kid you not five
different solutions for how I can solve screen recording issues on Kubuntu. I don't want five solutions. I want to know how to fix it. and and and all these individual people are just arguing with each other about the the validity
and merit of all these various solutions. Um some of which like I tried the first couple and they didn't even like apply anymore. Just wasn't that like apply anymore. Just wasn't that useful. Um and so that's the two that's
challenge, it's something that I would do anyway just because a huge part of my approach is that I'm trying to I'm trying to kind of channel my inner what would a random, you know, and I I I have
this one guy that I think of when I think of the slack jaw gamer and I think of the slack jaw gamer and I bumped into him at PAX like 11 years ago. Oh. >> It was back when Nvidia launched the
thing? >> Yeah. [laughter] And I know I know the >> You know the story. You know the story. Okay. So, I [snorts] encountered this guy who's sitting on a bean bag playing a PC game on this on this Android
portable um that is streaming over Wi-Fi, which at the time was absolutely mind-blowing. Like >> I was so I was so amped about like Wi-Fi
game streaming and the fact that this device with like decent ergonomics and reasonable portability that could play Android games and you could stream your freaking PC games over Wi-Fi to it. It blew my freaking mind and eventually
blew my freaking mind and eventually became GeForce Now and and and Moonlight and and Steam Remote Play and just this technology and video was at the forefront of it. I think even just that concept in general also inspired you
pretty heavily um towards what ended up being your like my my compute at my home is a server room thing cuz you used to talk a lot about how it would be likely that route and then distributing compute throughout their house and then
>> that didn't get as popular as kind of a lot of people actually expected but you setup. not in the way that I anticipated. Instead, it lives in a data center somewhere in the form of GeForce Now or whatever Microsoft calls their
remote Xbox stuff. >> Anyway, the point is I walk up to this guy who's experiencing the freaking future in his hands and I go, "Um, like, oh yeah, um, what do you think?" And he's sitting there on this bean bag
And he's sitting there on this bean bag and he's like, "That was cool." I was like, "Oh, yeah. Did Did you do you realize that like it's it's like you realize that like it's it's like beaming to you and he's like
just [snorts] gaming. He doesn't care how it works. He doesn't He doesn't want to go any further than like the lowest possible friction path to He's just And I was like, "Okay, well, I'm basically I'm I'm talking to a a
vegetable at this point." But it was just it was really like we're very interested in like the hardware and and and how it all you know
means and and we really care about all this stuff. But no, there is a very very large much larger way larger proportion large much larger way larger proportion of gamers who don't care
at all. Not even a little bit. and and so yeah, probably high. Yes, charge so yeah, probably high. Yes, charge nuclei almost definitely like high as a kite, this guy. It was remarkable. Anyway, I forget where I was going with
this, but the point is that that's how I'm doing it because that's how people are doing it. And honestly, I can't argue with the result. Worked >> I'm I'm I'm coming to you. I'm coming to you over Linux. Linux saved the W show,
boys. And I don't I don't have a I don't have much Linux news. Things have been going fine for me. I think I've already updated Wancho on what's going on with my laptop. Um so I have Linux Mint on
my laptop. Um so I have Linux Mint on there. Um for for I I guess I guess a case you don't know what's going on. Uh cuz in the video I talked about how I've been running Arch on my laptop for a while. Technically, when I filmed that,
while. Technically, when I filmed that, it was running Windows. And up until fairly recently, it was running Windows, but it was running Windows because it was having a hardware issue. And Lenovo, the laptop maker, was like, "Maybe it's
Linux," which is I'm not even upset at them for saying that. >> Reasonable enough because the hardware issue that was that was happening was that's kind of weird. So, like it wasn't
randomly or anything. The screen would lock. Um, and there was no Yeah. Windows?" So, I did. And the same problem happened. And then I just was too lazy to switch back over because >> the whole point of running Arch was to
browser all the time, it just doesn't really matter. Um, and then Windows was getting in my way because the start menu stopped working. So, I ra I rage installed Mint because I'm more comfortable with Mint. Um, and Mint's
pointing out to people before the show that I think it's actually really cool tons of other examples of this. I don't know. I'm not that experienced. Um, but like if I type in SN for snipping tool,
has. Yeah, >> it's not snipping whatever. It's screenshot. If I type in paint, >> it'll come up with drawing. It it it has like something some form of information that's like these are common things a
Windows user would type in a start menu. It's kind of what they expect to come up and then those things tend to come up which is fantastic. Keywords. Yeah. Some some type of list. Um >> some kind of metadata.
>> Yeah. And it makes it just super easy. Oh my god. Everything I've had to do super easy. I had to sign PDFs. Stuff's already installed. Whatever. Super easy. What a joke. Um, the biggest problem with computers that
I've had in the last week, um, isn't isn't like technically a problem. It didn't stop me from doing anything. Um, but it's been that this computer is Dan and I think it's like failing to Windows update, but constantly trying.
Uh because [laughter] >> because there's the Windows modules installer worker that for literally hours at this point has been taking up a
very significant amount of memory, a very significant amount of CPU, a decent very significant amount of CPU, a decent amount of disk, just everything and going like hard. There has been times where we've seen it spin up to over like
40% CPU usage. Um, and it's just sitting there almost always at the top, the highest process being used. And like I've got I've got Chrome open right now on here with with the the WAN doc and and float plane and chat and all this
kind of stuff. And it's it's not even Chrome that's using the most system resources. It's the Windows module installer. Um, with it. You try to install it and it fails and then to retry it has to
download the whole thing again. >> Nice. And so it's probably downloading and it's so slow and then it fails and tries again. It's >> so with with one browser with three tabs open and task manager, I'm at 60%
open and task manager, I'm at 60% memory, 25% CPU usage because Windows module installer and the service host Windows event log and WI and and a few other things are just cranking like all the time.
Oh my gosh. >> And and uh yeah, so the biggest problem I've had during the Linux challenge has been a Windows computer. Um that being said, I haven't I've been intentionally avoiding some
I've been intentionally avoiding some things knowing that they won't work. Um >> Yeah. >> Is that a hack?
because I I have mixed thoughts on this. Like on the one hand, launching a game Like on the one hand, launching a game that says not compatible on Proton DB, that feels like just throwing Linux under the bus, right?
>> But on the other hand, if you go in in good faith being like, I need to accomplish task A. >> Well, here's my turns out there's no >> Yeah. No, that's fine. Here's my good faith thing. I don't check.
I don't even go to profound DB. >> Interesting. I run in compatibility mode with 10 10 whatever 10-04 whatever it is the newest uh Proton compatibility mode and I just run it. >> Interesting.
>> I don't game as much as I used to. Everything's been fine. >> The little tux in your game library will like tell you if it's Linux ready anyway. So you you don't even use that. >> No, don't look.
>> That's crazy. just as >> to me that's the kind of thing that if I did people would be losing their minds at me like I'm like I'm trying to I if it if I clicked play and it didn't launch I'd look into something but there
has been no reason to like I'm not I'm not trying to there's I I saw some reviews some people like reviewing our our first video and like some comment well he's fine cuz he's like super Linux experience. I'm not doing in in like the
anything. I'm not doing anything. There's [laughter] no I'm not I'm doing nothing. I I So far it's been kind of luck of the draw. But like you you saw this, right? Like we went down to Florida. I I downloaded Slay the Spire 2
on pre-release launch. >> I clicked play. >> I mean, I would assume something light like Slay the Spire would work. But then >> I don't think that's a crazy assumption either, to be honest. But like
>> Yeah. >> It's in EA, right? >> Electronic Arts. >> I didn't I didn't look up if anyone was having problems before we went into a place with dubious internet. I I didn't
plan anything. I I did nothing. I installed the game, clicked play, and it worked completely flawlessly. >> It's also good. It's It's like >> It's also good. It's It's like >> Yeah. It's [sighs] uh yeah, I just uh
>> it's been fun. >> I um I I I played uh probably about 3 hours of God of War um like like re remaster like not the first God of War
whatever, but like >> God of War, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. >> Um and it was freaking awesome. I don't performance as I would have gotten on Windows,
>> but I was getting enough performance. I did run into a weird issue where >> um my charger I only brought like a little compact 65 watt charger and this laptop realistic it comes with like a 150 watt charger or something like that,
but I can I can game off of that charger and it'll like it'll hold the line like it won't charge or discharge. Um, so that was what I brought with me and I did run into an issue where I got down
to 10% battery and I got that notification and then I was like, "Oh crap, someone knocked my my charger off on the plane." So, I put it back in and coming and going and coming and going because I was like riding 10% forever,
the game >> eventually entered a state where it just got kind of choppy and wouldn't run properly. So, I had to turn it off, again, and then it was smooth again. But like, realistically,
have an issue like that on a on a Windows PC as well. So, I'm I'm counting that as as it ran pretty darn good. And I'm really enjoying the game so far. I finally freaking playing it. It's funny how that kind of happens for me is it
takes like a new device launch or a Linux challenge or something for me to meaning to play for years. >> Yeah. >> Um like when did that come out? >> 2018 or 2017 or something. Not quite,
but I think I think we're getting close. >> U there's been like sequels to it since then. Um, but there there is some things like, you know, >> I'm not playing uh I don't know, basically any multiplayer shooter game.
>> And again, it's I feel like it's less impactful this time around cuz I'm not playing as much stuff. Um, >> right. Yeah. I mean, your gaming rig has been just like locked away for freaking 6 months anyway. So, it's not like
you're like locked in and hyper in deep into a season of something, right? as you're you're starting the challenge and you know the wipes coming soon and you whatever. >> The one casualty is um Tarov released
1.0 recently and you can like escape from Tarov now. You can like complete from Tarov now. You can like complete the game. Um, and I like have some curiosity to do that and finally put like a pin in it and be like
>> I have to go back >> and and that's the the draw is not care. I think like it's it's one of those we had this conversation pretty early of like it kind of blows and you need to compromise what games you can
play because of your operating system and I'm sitting here on Linux being like the experience has been pretty good. I don't really care enough I think to uh so far this this is even >> I think that might be a bit of a boomer
>> where like gaming is not >> gaming is not much of a central part >> no no that I know I just mean like gaming in general I don't think is as life >> that's where I'm getting with this yeah
>> there is a weird I saw somebody point out and I don't know if this would work things uh this isn't even a recommendation and like it's kind of I wouldn't want to do it. I'm I have actually less interest in this than I do
in like dual booting which I don't have a lot of interest in. Um but GeForce Now is apparently a way you can get around some stuff like Fortnite. Apparently you can play Fortnite through GeForce Now.
>> Um I I didn't have interest in playing Fortnite before. I don't have interest in playing Fortnite now. U but yeah, like I'm trying to think of what Slay the Spire 1 and two I've launched both of those. Um, Balders's Gate.
Uh, my dad and I jumped on WoW. That worked. >> Wow. >> You have to go in Steam and then click >> You have to go in Steam and then click activate a non Steam game
there and it >> and then it'll just proton you. >> Yeah, it just works. Okay. Which is like, you know, that does take a second. you have to Google like okay what and then the whole internet honestly what's
been really really helpful and I wonder if this is a bit of a hack for me is is it's based on arch so I can follow the steam deck guides >> right yep >> so that was what I ended up seeing for
uh woow was a steam deck guide how do I play on steam deck and I was like >> uh >> I got to be honest with you. I've been happy about my Kubuntu choice for pretty much the same reason because Ubuntu
Debian >> are by far the the the most supported when it comes to just like a random application for using your iPhone as a >> literally >> I'm I'd be really interested if you sent
that to me because I figured out recently the whole tarball thing. It's just a zip file. >> You just open it and then run the stuff that's inside of it and it seems to work fine. I had something that was made for
fine. I had something that was made for uh Debian work with nothing from my end. immediately and it was completely fine. So, I don't know. >> Uh let me have a look at what their what their download formats are. Uh oh, yeah,
it's a Oh, it's a beta. I actually forgot to mention that that the Iranian webcam is beta for Linux >> and it just worked >> 2204 or later required. So they're literally on their site was not an
obvious way >> to um yeah so it's a deeb. So I just so all I had to do was just open it in my uh in my store in my discover store or
whatever the stupid thing is called in my discover store and go for it. Um, so sorry, no, this one's not beta. So the support for Ubuntu is not beta. And then not familiar with. I don't know what that means. I don't know how that
relates to your tarballs or whatever. Um, but that one is in beta and that's yeah, RPM, whatever that is. So, when it comes RPM, whatever that is. So, when it comes to doing anything not gaming, which I
haven't actually really needed a ton of guides for, I've been extremely happy to be on Debian basically to be on Ubuntu. >> Yeah, I found um you know, Mint just had all the stuff pre-installed like I've
I I don't know if I would recommend Cashy to a ton of people. Um it's >> I hate to be that guy out of the box. I don't know if I would recommend any >> And not not because >> this is a big part of the reason why I
>> Yeah. >> But because the people who tend to evangelize these dros are self- selecting as people who enjoy
>> Yeah. >> And so the very fact that they are recommending it tells me that that's probably not what I want. Um, no offense. No offense. >> And for me, it's been fine. Uh, but it
is been like, okay, I have to like go get something for screenshots. >> All right. Um, like there's been stuff like that and it's been easy to do. So, you haven't been using like >> Thank you. I like you, too. [laughter]
been using the like forums much and stuff. Um, >> I've been kind of avoiding them as well. >> I Me, too. But I've been mostly avoiding them. The level one text forum is is permanently based. But a lot of the
need that much negativity. You get you get like a a simple question and then it's just 20 pages of people screaming at each other for like often
at each other for like often completely unrelated reasons. It's wild. Um it's it's honestly just kind of terrible. But um level one text form is almost like >> holy wars are bad and the collateral
>> And and you were talking about how like the flavor of the month distros thing. One thing I will give Cashy as much as I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to to new Linux users so much at least in my experience um is their wiki is awesome.
If you're willing to kind of like pour through a wiki a bit I I could actually totally see new users using Kashi. Um, they have like this software list thing where it's like, oh, here's a a ton of different things you might need to do on
your computer and here's recommended software that you can use on Cashy. Um, and here's the like package name so you install it super easy. Stuff like that. Um, but yeah, their wiki is sweet. Their documentation is really good. Um, so
I've often I' I've kind of defaulted to just like I'm not actually going to look up what people are saying. I'm just gonna go up the wiki and just find the information already there and grab that. >> Um
yeah. Yeah, it's been uh it's been pretty has been more comfortable >> isn't safe. >> that like toxicity. >> Yeah, I actually think it's
especially when you had to learn PC. Stop lying. Nobody said that. Nobody said anything about that. >> It's just it's honestly like it it sucks. I honestly I think it I think it might be worse than the first time we
>> Um which I find interesting. >> I was I was expecting it to be better after that. like I it it seemed like after the initial
very strong reaction um last time around it seemed like they a lot of people stopped blaming the user quite as much when they realized oh wait
that was a really bad bug that caused that. Oh wait a lot of this feedback is really valuable. We actually have a couple of people who between them had at the time probably about 30 years of experience testing tech products doing
experience testing tech products doing free QA like maybe this is valuable what's going on right now and a lot of stuff on the developer side got fixed with it >> Linux the experience of using Linux
again itself both Mint and Cashachi has actually been really cool. The the the >> the improvements over the last what four years has been >> Wow. That's been one of the really cool things about using Mint on my laptop too
Cashy. I get to experience the thing that I did last time too and seeing the gap like Mint has come really far. People trash on Mint for not getting as all that kind of stuff. Um, there's other parts of that as well, but it has
kind of liked it last time. So, like that's been really cool. And even just using Cashy, like things feel like they've really been worked on since last time we did this challenge. But the community just
h guys, the memes aren't cool. Like, it's actually just sucks. It's very It's very uh acidic. I don't want to go near it too much. And again, there are havens for like the fourth time or something. The level one text forum is awesome. Um
that that cashy wiki is freaking fantastic. Um there are places where you can have really good interactions. Um but man, there is just so much prickly
I don't it's very like holier than thou mentality. Um I must be right about my opinion that multiple people could be right about situation. So, this is really important. Um, our my float plane commenter is still upset basically
going, "You hold Linux to a bar and then flame it. That's how it feels." And it's >> yeah, >> it's all about the perspective. When you hear me talk about Linux in general, open source in general, you'll hear me
be extremely uh you'll hear me praise it like very very strongly because the concept is incredible, world changing is is not an overstatement, right? Uh the
is not an overstatement, right? Uh the free open- source software is is is like you know YouTube I I would I would say is a wonder of the world is is incredible. something we've never had before and may never see again if
somehow we we lose what we have now. This amazing thing and and part of shouldn't be lost. It it doesn't seem like it it it's possible for it to be lost, but we should never take that for granted either. It's all I'm trying to
say. Um so from that perspective, you know, I'm very positive, very bullish. I mean, you've heard me many times publicly talk about how the year of the Linux desktop is coming. I think Steam OS could be the one.
OS could be the one. However, when I am approaching something from the perspective of an individual user who is trying to get something done, you're just going to have to put the emotions aside because and so am I.
the emotions aside because and so am I. If I go and I click run this software and it doesn't or it has me donking around in the terminal a bunch, then I'm going to have to just give you a reality bomb that most people don't want to do
that and that's a terrible user experience. And when I show up on a forum talking about that terrible user experience and you get emotional like you're getting emotional right now and you make it that you know I'm attacking
this thing that is precious to you instead of just going okay maybe this thing I love isn't perfect and could be better. That's destructive. That actually works against um what we're all trying to do and what I am rooting for
which is Year of the Linux desktop. But these different perspectives matter and these different framings matter. Linux challenge is not about do I love open source software and do I support it. It's about hey as a gamer how actually
usable is this dayto-day and how much work do I have to put into it? Am I >> It's also not a >> am I substituting >> It's also not a Linux sales pitch. Um like I I've I've seen some
that the negativity exists. I've seen some people upset that Linus is trying to interact with things in the way that a normal user might and stuff and it's >> positivity >> there are 10 trillion I switch to Linux
people have figured out that this format kind of works and people click on it. Uh cool sounds great. This is our angle. Everyone's going to have their own. Um,
Everyone's going to have their own. Um, yeah, it's problem that the community is so tough. >> I think being honestly being too being
too positive about something I think can can be equally destructive to it >> if you misrepresent something big. I mean, think about it. If you're shopping for a car, okay, and you walk into the
dealership and they tell you it gets 1,000 miles to the gallon and the paint never peels, it never needs to be washed, and the second you know a woman
sees you in it, she will be drawn to you magnetically. And you buy this thing and it turns out it's just a car. You're going to be disappointed because the framing of it was totally wrong >> and you lose trust.
Exactly. And and and you might never buy a car from that brand again. That's why a car from that brand again. That's why I think it is so important to just take off the makeup and be realistic about what this is like and what the problems
are. And if I find a problem, if a problem that I find is that, hey, this problem that I find is that, hey, this OS that everyone knows is bad still gets recommended a lot by tools like Google search and like chat GPT that you don't
have to like it, but you do have to just kind of deal with it that basically everyone uses, then don't be mad at me. I'm just the messenger. Solve the
>> This is off topic. >> Solve the problem. >> But you said Steam OS could be the one for Year of the Linux desktop. Uh >> I don't think it's going to be. I don't think it's going to be probably ever.
>> Um I don't think Valve is going to want to support the non-gaming aspects of it. Um, but that's one of the reasons why I've been playing around in like Arch land and like playing around with a couple different distros and stuff like
that is because my current extremely ignorant vibe check is like maybe the path that they're on is going to get a lot of support and I've been kind of seeing that with Cash EOS and like these different types of things. Um, I don't
different types of things. Um, I don't think if we went back four years ago, and I'm probably wrong about this in some way, uh, was it was Mangaro? >> You have a button for that. >> Mangaro was archbased, isn't that right?
Is Mangaro archbased? >> No, I don't think so. >> Um, >> Yep. Thank you. So that that was like
around >> but that was if I you ended up using that right? >> Yeah I did I used Mangaro. I forget why ultimately settled on it. >> So I think that was like
>> Yeah. >> Or it was. >> Yeah. I don't know. Might still be. Um but I I think that was like just kind of starting to become a thing as like that could maybe be used for gaming. But Arch
things. uh people didn't really want to touch it. I remember um people you started talking about the AUR around becoming a little bit more approachable and there was Menaro and a couple things
like that and these days now it's like oh it's the gaming thing and Cashios is over there and oh Steam Steam OS is built on this thing and gaming focus the other things will kind of follow and I think something in that realm might
make it which is why I'm trying to familiarize myself with those things uh instead of just sitting in my comfortable Mint land forever. >> So, the reason the reason I think it's going to be Steam OS is because um I I
believe at this point um and I I've just I've seen too much in our in our last Linux challenges and just with the the development of open source software in general. Um I believe you need a vision
for something like an operating system. I think you need a really strong direction and Steam OS has it. And while direction and Steam OS has it. And while I do absolutely see your point that with
their focus on ultimately like let's let's not kid ourselves selling more >> Yeah. >> Like you know what drives Valve at the end of the day. Um, I can see how you might not have faith that they're going
might not have faith that they're going to put the time and the work into the other aspects of of the desktop experience from talking to the folks there, from seeing the direction that they're going
from the Steam Deck, right, which is handheld only. It's it's big picture only, right? and seeing how much they wanted to talk about how much they've improved the desktop experience with the Steam Machine. The fact that one of
Steam Machine. The fact that one of their demos was with a desktop monitor and the Steam Machine running in desktop mode. Um, the fact that like uh it was a while back we were trying to get this ancient printer working for a video and
that was when I realized that Steam OS had no built-in support for printers of any sort. you you had to basically like cludge it in yourself. Um, since then, I cludge it in yourself. Um, since then, I believe they do support printers now and
Can can someone double check that for me? I'm going to need a Luke. I don't know here, but I I believe that is a thing now. thing now. There is no reason to support printers
and and the printing stack out of the box if you don't freaking intend for this to be a desktop operating system. So to me, the the vision that I see and
the direction that they're going are the strongest and the most cohesive and I just don't know. Yes, printer support added in Steam OS 3.6
support added in Steam OS 3.6 And I just making the experience better for gamers. And I know that gamers are just one specific use case, but they also are a use case that
use case that demands high performance that that that tends to be micro influencers for their friend groups around them. And I just I saw a couple comments in the chat. Yeah, but it's AMD only. Valve would love for
Steam OS to be super Nvidia friendly tomorrow, but from, and this is me from Valve has told me this. Um, any of this, I'm I'm assuming that they would
love for Steam OS to be Nvidia friendly. And what I'm basing that on is that the original Steam machines 10 years ago used Nvidia cards. Valve clearly wanted used Nvidia cards. Valve clearly wanted to use Nvidia at some point. Um, but
from what I can tell, it basically just comes down to vendor cooperation and vendor software support. Something that Torvoltz mentioned has gotten way better Torvoltz mentioned has gotten way better from Nvidia now that Linux and AI and
Nvidia all have a common direction that they're >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Will the gaming hardware follow? >> Will the gaming hardware follow? Yeah, I uh I think it I think it will.
Um, there's also, man, there's also like bigger industry trends that we can look at and go, okay, well, does Nvidia matter that much? You could look at their their gaming discrete GPU market share, what is it, 95% in the most
recent report, and go, yeah, yeah, it's the only thing that matters. But like the laptop that I'm running on right now, this machine does not have a now, this machine does not have a dedicated GPU and I don't care
at all. even a little bit. I'm using an APU, but with the performance of the AMD Radeon 8060S or whatever the model is graphics 8060S or whatever the model is graphics in this thing, I don't care. So yeah, if
AMD's market share continues to absolutely suck donk on discreet, but their APUs continue to go the direction that they're going right now where they own the business of Sony PlayStation, own the business of Microsoft Xbox,
whatever form that ultimately ends up taking, pretty much own the entire gaming handheld space, and are shipping these incredible high power GPU APUs
that are going to start to dominate in laptops. tops or even small form factor desktops like the framework desktop investment disclosure. I don't know, man. Maybe that whole thing that I remember AMD first talking
about with Fusion back shortly after the ATI acquisition. Maybe that whole thing where desktop computers don't need a discrete GPU like becomes thing.
>> Um, >> gross. >> it's still gross though. >> And yet and yet I was playing God of War and it was freaking awesome on what at as a highowered solution. Yes. Very
expensive right now. But I remind everyone is an integrated GPU. >> Icky. >> Integrated graphics, dude. >> Integrated graphics, dude. >> Gross.
>> No, I hear you. I hear you. I can accept the reality and still be disgusted by it. There's a lot of that lately. Um, >> person for sure says, "I don't want soldered on RAM." But guess what, buddy? You already have soldered on RAM. The
RAM on your GPU is soldered because it needs to run at super high speeds. >> We're just using our GPU RAM as also system memory. Nothing changed. >> Just your your perception changed. Your your perspective changed.
>> Yeah, that that computer that you stick into your computer that is the graphics card. I that always like really fascinates me. It really is its whole own computer. Like if you look at these days
>> if you look at if you if you really like analyze a whole graphics card, it has >> has everything. >> Everything, buddy. And like especially
the professional grade ones that can do, you know, virtualization and stuff and that have an that [laughter] >> it's pretty it's just a computer in your >> It's funny because like in some ways Intel Larabe was so far ahead of the
curve on that where it was general purpose compute that was just hyper hyper parallel and could also be used for graphics and it was just a computer. Yeah. >> Uh, have we actually done any topics
>> I don't think so. This could transfer us into a a weird jump if we wanted to to the 3060 news. >> Oh, here here's a good one. Hold on.
>> Oh, here here's a good one. Hold on. Last thing. Anna Hikage says, "Fun fact, the Bazite devs just updated the website to make the warning for the NVIDIA deck to make the warning for the NVIDIA deck ISO, which is broken, more obnoxious and
clearly stated. Lionus's experience has already made Linux better. >> And that's the thing, the community zealots are mad. The developers, if they're smart, are looking at this going, "This is free QA. Holy crap. We
should action this." So, shout out Bazite for recognizing it for what it is. Calling something beta in this day and age, I mean, Gmail was beta for 10 years. Calling something beta doesn't mean what it used to. And honestly, the
experience that I had on that particular ISO for Bazite was not even the old definition of beta. That was like alpha or pre-alpha. It was completely broken. Just completely broken. So,
I don't know, dude. Yeah. Um, where is it? Back then it was beta mail. Now it's Gmail. Thank you, chat. You guys are great. [laughter]
short topic, but I did want to transition to it just because we're actually using and stuff like that. And then we then we can go to what Dan was brings back >> production of the RTX 3060 to Samsung
8nmter production. Samsung is restarting production of their 3060s discontinued in 2024 on its 8nmter node. According to Korean outlet Hank Young, I'm just going to
confidently say that and we'll see how it goes. Nvidia's RTX 40 and 50 series. Both both both run on TSMC's custom 4nmter node, a 5nanmter uh class process
because it's all just naming at this point. um that's maxed out producing Blackwell gaming and AI chips. So, the old Samsung 8nm line can run without cutting into nextg supply. The move is being driven by a few things at once. A
GDDR7 memory shortage is squeezing RTX50 series supply and Nvidia's high-end AI chips face an uncertain and shifting regulatory uh congressional restrictions in terms of shipping to China and doing all this weird stuff. Uh the older RTX
3060 sidesteps pretty much all of that since it falls entirely. It's still unclear whether the returning card will be on the 12 gig
original or the cut down 8 gig variant. But one of the really really cool side effects of this is people who currently have a 3060 or potentially just 3000 series GPU in general will probably have elongated driver support because of this
elongated driver support because of this which is really cool because those cards >> Still pretty based. >> Yeah, absolutely. So like if you're still running a 3060 because hey why not? Um, I mean, there's a ton of people
still asking for a few more years out of their 1080s and 1080 Ti. Um, so I'm sure there's a ton of people still running 3060s. Um, then sick, you're going to have a lot more driver support. There's so many games coming out that really
don't need much more power. Um, I'm sure 3060s run something like Arc Raiders, no >> [snorts] >> With that said, if some of the rumors that I've seen about the next generation Xbox are anything to go by and also the
PlayStation 6, don't forget that we're at the end of a cycle right now. >> We're at the end of a console cycle and there's always a leap. Once the dev kits for PS6 and Xbox, whatever they end up calling it, start to roll out to
developers. We are going to start to see next generation games hit development. We're also going to continue to see live service games that continually get their graphics updated like WoW um that are going to keep moving forward and so we
go okay well you know a 3060 ought to be enough for everyone kind of thing but right now I 100% agree. I was actually I was gaming on a 3060 recently for some reason. What was it? Oh right
uh I remember we did um the Brazilian PC. Uh that's I I think actually up on float plane right now. You guys can watch it. Um we ordered PCs from Brazil, which tends to be a couple of generations behind because it turns out
that import tariffs are actually a really great way to make everything way buy stuff. That's [snorts] not a political statement. That's just math. Um and math is math. I don't make the rules about it. So, so we did the Brazil
PC and I was gaming on a 3060 and I was playing freaking Cyberpunk and I was like, "Holy crap, is DLSS ever like good these days?" And I'm having a pretty these days?" And I'm having a pretty darn good experience right now. Like,
>> Yeah, >> 30 is still a pretty freaking awesome more driver support out of this, that's just like I I didn't even really think immediately about like what I would call like a restricted market like Brazil
kind of is. Um where this is going to help them even more and that's awesome. Um yeah, so I just thought this was honestly kind of it's it's I could see
just going to decide to take it as good news because hey, we could use one of those. And I like the idea of the driver support extending. But yeah, >> I think this is great news. Is that a controversial take?
>> No, I just I'm just kind of sitting here thinking like someone might see it as negative because this means that they're not necessarily increasing like they're not increasing capacity and getting out more like 50 series cards.
>> Um, which means that they'll be maintaining the price of those cards. I've wondered for years now why the the low-end one isn't just the last gen one and for a long time that wasn't feasible because the old nodes the GPU the dies
would be so big that the cost just doesn't make any sense but for years now you've had everyone Intel Nvidia AMD talking about how well the new product is just more expensive because yes we can make a better one because of the die
shrink but but it costs so much more to manufacture that there isn't really like a cost benefit. And I was like, "Okay, >> well then why don't you just make, you know, bigger bigger dies on the older node of your last gen card and just keep
printing them and that can be your low end." Like I'm I'm super like, dude, if Nvidia wanted to make more than just 3060s. If they wanted to make 3070s, I'd bring it on. Like >> what is the the AI card a lot of people
try to go for? 3090s. >> 309 24 gig. People still love 3090s, 24 though, just because of how much RAM you're putting into it you're putting into it >> and it's just too much GPU to make for
how much performance and how much power consumption you're going to get. people in chat yelling at me. I'm not saying [sighs] relax. I'm not saying I think it's negative news. I said repeatedly that I
think it's positive news. I was just saying that some people might think I'm now. Uh oh. >> It's a tube of meat. [laughter] >> It's seasoned. >> It goes on the grill and it prefer flat
>> I'm going to come out and say I prefer flat meat. >> So much colon cancer. But that's later. >> My meat should be flat and circular. So [laughter] Flat
[laughter] Okay. Okay. More information than I wanted.
different process node. I know it's different manufacturing. I know it's the 5 N. We literally just talked about that. I know that's a thing. It's like attention pulling away. It's not potentially increasing whatever blah
blah blah. It's still like it's not an argument I even agree with. I was just saying that I could see some people trying to take that angle. Okay, so Circular meat is fine.
>> Tube tube meat is fine. >> Anyways, [clears throat] Dan, CW things or something. Get me out of here. >> Uh, yeah. You blown past more topics. You blown plast coms. Why don't we do the CW announcement and a couple comms?
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us, but you're not that interested in having LT branding all over the stuff having LT branding all over the stuff that you have, you know, hey, there what about what about creator warehouse branding? That seems perfectly
branding? That seems perfectly not LTT. mean, >> I prefer it a lot actually and like lots
of people do. There's tons of people that don't want to wear uh brand logos. And like I I think our brand logos are subtle enough that it's totally fine. like brand logos. I don't know. I go back and forth, but this looks kind of
sharp to me. It's subtle. It's understated. It looks nice. It works. It works good. >> I've I've I've had multiple people tell me, and this blew my flipping mind. I've had multiple people tell me that they
would buy the commuter bag if only it didn't have the LT branding on it. >> dstitcher that, >> bro, >> bro, it's 1 cm by 1 cm, black on black. What
are you even talking about? But there are people who are so are people who are so um how do I put this? Uh very set on a particular
mindset goal that they just guys are free. Your point is mute. Yeah, except I've bought blanks that weren't from us before. So my point is not mute. Um it is it is generally good. I'm
Um it is it is generally good. I'm >> so triggered right now. M O T. M O T. Moot, not mute. M U T E. >> Yeah. No, I Yeah. Um I uh as someone who isn't even that good at fashion stuff
>> Not even sort of something that the people who are good at the fashion stuff have told me is that I should have more blank things cuz I always just had like uh convention shirts. Oh god. Basically, I had 100% of my wardrobe for a long
years was convention shirts. And then fashion people were like, "Hey, you should probably just have like a plain white tea and a plain black tea and like a couple other colors and then those can go with whatever and then you'd look a
lot more presentable in a lot more scenarios." And I was like, "Oh, that that was like part of growing up." [laughter] not have like the equivalent of band shirts but for technology or games. Um,
and like those are still cool. I still wear those, but there's time and place for things. [snorts] >> And sometimes it's not up to people. Uh, Brumy in float plane chat says, "Yeah, I had to unstitch the logos off of my LT
policies." Y, >> sometimes you're you're not allowed to >> sometimes you're you're not allowed to wear stuff. Um, totally get it. And look, I totally understand the perspective too of uh uh who is it? Uh
walking advertisement. Don't want to be a consumer." a consumer." And totally get that too. Um but I don't I don't personally consider a 1 cm by 1 cm black-on-black logo on an entire
cm black-on-black logo on an entire backpack to be consumer level branding walking advertisement. That's like, come on. What are you even What are you What on. What are you even What are you What are you even talking about, buddy? Like,
I don't know, man. But either way, either way, we're doing our part. We're making unbranded stuff. So, now all you have to do is do your part and buy it and then we can keep making it.
>> And if you don't want a blank tease, >> that's totally fine. I didn't want blank TE's for a long time. It's But they obviously, very obviously have a obviously, very obviously have a utility.
>> What are you doing now? What are you doing now? >> T-shirt. >> Spanky says, "I'd love Creator Warehouse to offer some self-branding stuff. I'd probably buy 100 to 200 pens or pencils
if I could change the logo to our companies." do, but for a 100 units that would be really tough >> and it it all just depends on how it's done.
>> Like whether it's uh if it's a mold, >> it's just not feasible for small amounts of units. Like I think if someone ordered thousands of screwdrivers from us, we could talk about changing the logo for like the plastic screwdriver
I don't want to put any words in the CW team's mouth, but I think it would have to be at least hundreds before we'd be able to look at a logo change. It just it depends on it depends on our suppliers. It depends on lead times. It
willing to pay for the customization. But hey, it never hurts to reach out. Sorry, Luke, what were you going to say? Uh, my Google search didn't end up working. I I tried to like pull a gambit where I Googled attractive man and then
dress shirts and I was like, that didn't work. So, I tried attractive man wearing "Look, they're all wearing blank t-shirts." Uh, and then even searching attractive man wearing a t-shirt only brought up dudes wearing button-ups. I
>> That should tell you enough, shouldn't it? [laughter] Okay. >> I guess Luke, we just got told. >> I think so. [laughter] >> We just got told so hard.
>> It didn't work at all. Good thing we sell pretty brandless button-ups. Or I mean, maybe we did. Did we get rid >> Wait, I got it to work this time. And I'm totally right. They're all blank.
They're all blank. Every single one of them is blank. All of them are blank. Okay, there's one. >> two with upload your image here. I don't think that counts.
>> Almost all blank T's. Yep. >> There's a there's a few that aren't, but they're almost all blank TE's. So, yeah. What up? I don't know fashion things, >> Surprise, surprise. >> We sell white, but for shirts.
us a little bit here because we're clearly not I can't see your signs. >> Yeah. >> Cool. [laughter] >> Okay. You said it to him, too, didn't
>> We could do that. >> Okay. Yeah, let's do Whale Land. >> We have We have locked in the dates for the next Whale Land. It's going to be on the next Whale Land. It's going to be on May 23rd and 24th. BYOC tickets. So,
that is bring your own computer tickets are going to be starting at $80 Canadian. So, what's that work out to? About $60, like $55, $60. And there will be a limited number of whale VIP tickets for $5,000
Canadian. VIPs will get obviously their ticket to the event, but also a high-powered customuilt gaming PC to game on, a Prismatic screwdriver, a lightweight packable jacket, a premium polo, and a Studio Plus Labs tour.
Ticket sales will start this coming Monday at noon Pacific. Whaleand.com, Monday at noon Pacific. Whaleand.com, and we will see you there. Uh, Luke, how Hopefully. Good. >> Oh, yeah. No, I think so. I think I'm
like just generally going to be at Whalelands. Um, >> Yeah. >> When is Computex? [clears throat] >> Uh, not May 23rd and 24th.
>> Fine. >> I think it'll be shortly afterward. >> what? >> Immediately afterwards later. >> Uh, so it's a week later. >> I'll just Well, normally I go a week
>> so maybe I'll just Oh, >> yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll just come back a >> Yeah. >> That's good to know, though. [laughter] I'm happy we just figured that out. Uh, but yeah, I'm I'm intending it. Uh,
Uh, but yeah, I'm I'm intending it. Uh, I'm intending to generally be attending. >> All right, sounds good. >> Yeah, let's get another topic. jump into >> Yeah, look at that. >> Intel's new CPUs are their fastest
gaming desktop processors ever. And there was once upon a time a time when I would have said, "Wow, the new water is wetter than ever." Uh to in response to wetter than ever." Uh to in response to that, but in fact, um Intel did have a
generation of desktop CPUs that in fact were not their fastest gaming CPUs ever. So, we can't take that for granted. So, this is good news, everyone. [laughter]
Intel is super bullish on the recently announced Intel Core Ultra 7270K Plus announced Intel Core Ultra 7270K Plus and Core Ultra 5250K Plus. These new chips offer four additional ecores or efficiency cores
compared to their their direct predecessors, have faster clock speeds, and this has got to be a really big one here, have significantly improved dieto- frequency over their predecessors, the 265K and 245K.
This translates to support for 7200 megat transfer per second RAM. As if anyone can afford that these days. And early support for four rank CU dim modules. Again, as if anyone could afford those. But cool, cool, cool
afford those. But cool, cool, cool beans. Intel, appreciate you. Notably, these improvements were achieved without Intel increasing the chip's 125 watt Intel increasing the chip's 125 watt TDP. The Ultra 7270K Plus features 8 P
cores and 16 EC cores, which actually matches the core count of the flagship matches the core count of the flagship Core Ultra 9 295K. Um, okay. And it is also worth noting that
while the 295K was and in fact the whole lineup of Core Ultra 200 series was criticized for uncompetitive pricing and lower gaming performance, over time they lower gaming performance, over time they have improved. pricing has gotten lower
[clears throat] and these new refreshed Aerolake CPUs are apparently looking to deliver up to a 13% gaming increase over their a 13% gaming increase over their predecessors while coming in at very
similar pricing. So, the 250K Plus is going to be starting from 199 with the going to be starting from 199 with the uh 270K Plus starting from uh this says 199, but I believe it's 299. Yeah. Two uh starting from $2.99. So
No. No. But a $200 chip that Intel claims is But a $200 chip that Intel claims is faster than the 9600X from AMD
faster than the 9600X from AMD um comes with that many flipping cores. Like yes, some of them are ecores, but these Intel uh hybrid uh pcore ecore chips tend to be great for non-gaming as well. Not to mention all of the gaming
improvements. Man, that seems like it it seems like a pretty compelling value. And it's not just hardware where Intel is trying to make gains like Nvidia. better fabrication, then you can take the fight to software. Except Nvidia
fabrication. But yeah, whatever the point is, Intel binary optimization tool optimization software package and is touted as a first of its kind
optimization technology hoping to increase instructions per clock in certain games by leveraging Intel compiler and profiling IP to streamline library and executable performance. Now, I remember a time not that long ago when
we considered that kind of optimization to be like cheating um and using sort of using non-standard uh compilers in order to get a a competition >> and now they're just playing the game.
>> We live in a very very different world. Um, you [clears throat] know, remember when remember when making changes to the rendering pipeline on a GPU was cheating? And now that's like Nvidia's headline feature for their latest GPUs
is all the changes that they make to the rendering pipeline with AI and whatnot. rendering pipeline with AI and whatnot. And honestly, this implementation sounds very different from the old cheaty way where they would um allegedly coers
companies into using their tools that benefited their CPUs. It sounds like what's happening here is they're taking scattered instructions from code that architectures and repacking them to reduce architectural contention. And it
reduce architectural contention. And it sounds like it won't have a negative impact on the competition. It will just perform better on Intel, which maybe is perform better on Intel, which maybe is better than it used to be before.
if that sounds about right? Anyway, we don't know how well it's going to work until we can try out their uh APO software in our upcoming review, but it seems like from everything that we're seeing communication wise out of Intel,
>> Yeah. >> On these, >> On these, >> which I would hope so. happy about the result. You can hope, but like last time around,
hope didn't really get us anywhere. >> Hope's all we can have, brother. Nothing else is worth it. >> Nothing else is worth it. Despair is not worth it. It doesn't help you. Anyways, uh
to sell me? >> Uh yeah, I've got a lot of peptides. I Whatever Whatever peptide you want, tell me your problem and I'll come up with [laughter] >> Yeah, we should probably advice.
Jeez. [laughter] >> Uh, >> Uh, so [laughter] >> Um, okay. What do we want to do? Google's killing the Play Store
developers >> Oh, you know what? No, hold on. Hold on. We can get to that in a second. First, I want to talk. I had to have the uh I had to have the snake oil folk medicine conversation with my eldest daughter on
conversation with my eldest daughter on this trip. Um they they all got $20 Canadian dollars for a souvenir um budget and uh she picked out this little it's like a little woven mat and it has a little cat on it. It's cute. It's a
cat on a mat. Whatever. >> Sure. Um anyway, the the seller lady um >> Sure. Um anyway, the the seller lady um was super determined to talk about the air purification and and health benefits of this little stuffy cat on a on a
of this little stuffy cat on a on a little woven mat and um and kept talking about activated charcoal. And I kind of went uhhuh uhhuh uhhuh uh-huh uh-huh. with my daughter after the fact where I go, okay, so this is the most dangerous
go, okay, so this is the most dangerous type of hookum where there is a grain of type of hookum where there is a grain of truth upon which a tower of lies and misunderstandings is built. Does activated charcoal have odor reduction
Yes. >> Yeah, totally. However, only if we are actively running air through it, not if it's just sitting there on your dresser. And we need to have a way to either swap out the
>> the activated charcoal >> or we have to have a way of removing it reactivate it. >> Neither of those things are true. It's >> Neither of those things are true. It's just activated charcoal in a pillow that
just sits there and has no way to replace it or recharge it. And so we replace it or recharge it. And so we just need to, you know, learn to I I read this really interesting article on The Atlantic earlier this week about how
The Atlantic earlier this week about how Western society has a major problem with both gullibility and cynicism and being gullible to the wrong things and cynical about the wrong things. How can you be so gullible and
things. How can you be so gullible and so accepting of anything that's that someone tells you, no matter how ridiculous it sounds, and at the same ridiculous it sounds, and at the same time so cynical and disbelieving of of
of experts, and there's a there's a lot of like super super deep reasons for it that the article only skims the surface of, but um it's it's fascinating and it's something that has sort of been on my mind as something that we really have
to flag um flag with our kids and talk about, you know, how to navigate your way through. You should be cynical and you through. You should be cynical and you should believe people, but you've got to
right things and you believe the right people. Otherwise, you're going to end up in in deep trouble. Like uh one of the things the article touched on is how smart people, you know, let's not just be dismissive and say, well, anyone who
believes in something stupid is too stupid. Not that simple. Smart people who live in a bubble, who live in an information echo chamber can end up believing some some some shockingly >> there's also tons of crazy stuff like
the the desire to for something to be true can also influence how much you believe that it is true. And like, >> yeah, >> jumping in with, "Hey, these fries would be like super healthy and you could eat
as many as you want. If if only they were fried in beef tallow instead of ooh scary seed oils." >> It's like, yeah, I Yeah, you know, if I just wanted to like enjoy French fries, I might love to believe that.
>> I I can ignore all the tastes amazing. [laughter] that ain't what we're talking about. >> Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Errol Do says, "I work around so many brilliant people in tech and some
of them believe the silliest scams and weewoo things." Yeah, 100%. Oh no, everyone's like piping up with their piping up with their stuff. Uh,
[snorts] magnetic flux. My grandma thinks vegan burgers make people gay. thinks vegan burgers make people gay. No, no, no. See, that's correlation, not causation. No, I'm I'm I'm This is [laughter] joke. is joke.
>> I love me a good vegan burger. Wait. >> Oh, no. This is my mouse. >> Wait a minute. Uh, [laughter]
it turns the freaking YouTuber. [laughter] >> Oh man. Apparently there's an XKCD for this. Of course there is. I think there is for everything.
Oh, okay. No, it's not that good. I norm to be clear. Love XKCD. U I didn't personally appreciate that one that much. All right. I guess we'll do
another topic. Oh, yeah. Right. You were going to do the thing. the topic >> which yeah by June 30th developers in
the US, UK and the European economic area. Okay. Uh we'll see the st we'll area. Okay. Uh we'll see the st we'll see the standard 30% inapp purchases fee on the Google Play Store drop to 20% for the first time. Uh for sorry for
first-time installs of apps after the new fees launch. Recurring subscription service fees will drop to 10%. Furthermore, Google is introducing a new business model intended to decouple the fees by separating the cost of their
billing system from the service fee. Developers that opt into Google Play's billing system in the US, UK, or Europe will have to fork over an additional 5%. However, mobile developers will officially have the option to use their
own billing system alongside or in place of Google's. Enrolling into Google's new apps experience program will drop the service fee to 15% for new installs. The rollout will gradually hit Australia, Japan, and Korea by the end of the year
Japan, and Korea by the end of the year and the rest of the world late 2027. Apart from cutting fees, Google is also launching a registered app store program thing that will streamline the process for third party app stores like Epic
Games as long as they meet certain quality benchmarks. So, it's an app quality benchmarks. So, it's an app store for app stores. Hold on a minute. app stores, but you can have an app store
>> quality benchmarks. So, you'll you'll work with Google to So, you'll you'll work with Google to have like an Epic Games app store on on Android. >> Okay.
I don't know what I think about that, but all right. Uh, more topics, I guess, maybe. >> Well, I mean, I I can Can we plan >> Can we shout out a guy who I don't always agree with, but who I I got to
shout out here. Um, who else would have had the balls to go toe-to-toe with Apple and Google and force this change but Epic Games is Tim Sweeney. I uh
ones where at the time I took a ton of flak for just being like, "Yeah, obviously the App Store and the Play Store are a huge antitrust problem." And the fact that people are pretending they can't see it is just
corporate bootlickery of the highest order. And especially Apple people were order. And especially Apple people were like, "We don't want the App Store to be love the taste of leather. It's so
>> and other things. >> Yeah. No, this was it was like just vegetable and bean burgers. >> It was It was It was a It was definitely
>> It was It was It was a It was definitely a thing. and and and Quartz and and Google and Apple all know, everybody knows. It was just a matter of time until you could figure it out. And uh this is great. I'm um I'm I'm very very
this is great. I'm um I'm I'm very very very excited. Uh Errolo says, "I refuse to accept the hypocrisy of sing for steam." That's the thing. And again, this is this is a ton. You need to you need to
this is a ton. You need to you need to read more. Um Steam has things about it read more. Um Steam has things about it that um where they where Valve leverages their quite dominant position, but they are not in fact a monopoly because they
are not in fact a monopoly because they just like aren't uh because you're not just like aren't uh because you're not bound to use Steam in any way. You can go on GOG, you can go on Epic Games, you can go anywhere you want and you can
download a game for any platform where you can also get that game on Steam. It you can also get that game on Steam. It is and Steam unlike the App Store and the Google Play Store is not owned by the platform owner. That's why it just
isn't the same thing at all. And I'm sorry, but I can't be the one to explain it to you. You're going to have to go and just learn more about monopolistic behavior and anti-competitive laws and stuff.
stuff. Cool. >> Shall we do the flow plane announcement and your sponsors?
do it. Where is it? We all have an embarrassing tech story or two. So Riley sought out some embarrassing moments from members of the LMG team. It features Elijah who admitted to a crime,
Adam, who blew out his partner's ears with music that was too loud. And James, with music that was too loud. And James, who bought a laptop that cost $2300
>> [laughter] >> That's a yikes. [clears throat] ask. No one ever asks how is David. Oh, okay. I I did the
delivery on that totally wrong. Anyway, his setup from 5 years ago. The point is David showcased his setup and how much it's changed from his original ultimate tech upgrade. Uh he's got his man cave upgrade in there and shows what it looks
like today. Also, if you're from Brazil or think Brazil is cool or you don't understand tariffs and you want to understand tariffs better and how they can be like really bad for consumers, uh you might want to check out the early
>> Um Luke, are I Are you showing any of this? I can't also Oh, yeah. There you go. >> Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs. >> Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs. Uh all of this and more at lmg.ggfpwan.
uh, hold on, hold on. Give me a second. Lozer says, "Linus, Valve and Steam is creating that environment with Steam OS with the with the ownership of the platform and the and the thing." Um, >> you're trying so hard to make this a
thing, but it still isn't because Steam OS still totally supports other app stores. with Valve taking absolutely count them zero dollars and having zero
involvement in that transaction. So, it's still completely not the same thing. I'm sorry, but no amount of trying to make Steam the same thing as the App Store and the Google Play Store is going to make it the same thing
because it's just not the same thing and it's just not going to work. app stores that is now allowed to potentially be on there. >> Yep. Totally. And if one of them had an extremely dominant position that enabled
them to do certain things that that could be anti-competitive, then we could draw a parallel there because Valve does have an opportunity to do certain things that can be anti-competitive. But one of those things is not the thing that Tim
Sweeney was complaining about with the App Store and iOS and the tight integration and control over transactions and payments and the availability of apps for the platform. They're just not the same thing. Uh
you. It's not about agreement. It's about like this is a fact that it just is a thing. I'm going to have a nap. is a thing. I'm going to have a nap. [sighs]
Steam, you lose all your games forever. Yes. Yes, you do. But that is nothing to do with what we're talking about. >> Cool, dude. Oh, man. I don't know, dude. You know, I think part of it, Luke, I think one of
the big challenges we have is that you and I watch every W show and most viewers don't. So all the show. You're there for it, though. >> Oh my god. [laughter]
>> So, so we end up in this situation where people go, "Okay, well, >> why are you so why are you so down on Linux and you never criticize Windows?" And it's like >> the previous show's title [laughter]
cooked, you know. [clears throat] >> Yeah. all the time. >> Their own exposure bias is that all they see and hear is the thing that's making them emotional right now.
>> It's like, guys, we criticize Steam and Valve all the time. >> how >> very very rapidly terrible. I I had this whole thing where like I was getting really nostalgic about old Windows.
Actually, I was thinking back to like how much I just really enjoyed using Windows XP. And I know people go like, "Oh, if you go back now, it's it's terrible." It's like, "Yeah, that's cool." For the time, it was amazing. And
>> Vista was based. >> And it's like a lot of people have terrible memories of Vista because they bought a laptop from Best Buy with 512 megs of RAM and tried to run Vista on it. And that was terrible, terrible,
terrible, terrible. But when I had some better hardware and especially when I had a custom version of Vista, dude, Vista Black Edition was so sick. It was late in the game when I had better hardware and especially a custom
liked using Vista. Arrow looked amazing. It just couldn't run under a crappy laptop. Okay. And then seven came out and seven was amazing. Again, people keep talking about this like, oh, it's
bad. In my opinion, not really. It was kind of just good and then the hardware wasn't ready and then good. Um, like Vista was actually fantastic. >> Things like printers printer compatibility on Vista was a nightmare.
compatibility on Vista was a nightmare. >> Yeah. Um, then then we get eight and >> Yeah. Um, then then we get eight and eight out of the gate was to use the young people's probably outofdate term by this point, dog water. But 8.1 came
out and with a little time, with a little bit of time in the marinade, 8.1 was actually really solid, especially if you got the the Windows 9 thing and got stuff. Fantastic. And then we hit Windows 10 and it was like, ooh, now now
it's still edible, but something's wrong with it. It's still Windows. All my stuff still kind of works. You left the sticker on when you were eating it. >> Yeah. Like something just Okay. And then
Windows 11 came out and then it was like okay no like this for sure still works but is clearly bad for me. Like something something is not good in this 11 yet. >> I am being food poisoned. Um, and then I
think with looking at 12 on the horizon, like it's just we were doing this thing, right, where like they'd stumble a little like amazing launch, maybe a hardware, but then amazing uh just amazing and then really troublesome
and then now we're just literally just doing this and it feels terrible. And you can jump off the ship early and maybe have some troubles trying to learn Linux um and maybe come back to Windows,
who knows, but gain a little bit of familiarity. Or you can jump off later when it's like just death. Or or I don't know. Or Microsoft will maybe, but I doubt it. Actually listen to some people and stop just doing this with their
operating system, which by God, I will [laughter] I will volunteer. I expect nothing. You never you never even have to admit that I helped you. I require no compensation. I will tell you all of the things you need to do to make it not
things you need to do to make it not garbage anymore. No problem. I am yours garbage anymore. No problem. I am yours to be resourced. Uh but you won't do it. Yeah. Lance will come with me. We'll figure it out. And it if you want
Windows 12 to be like the AI operating system, I think this is still possible. you can still accomplish that goal and still make it not complete crap. I I like you can do it. >> I I don't believe you're going to, but
you totally can. >> I know a lot of people I know a lot of >> I know a lot of people I know a lot of people are are are are just sort of like reflexively against anything that has AI of any sort involved in it. I'm not I I
actually agree with you that Windows 12 could be could have could have AI as a central part of the experience and all they need to do to make that it. I bet you were going to say the same is just make it so I can remove it.
>> Yep. Done. To be able to turn it off, be able to remove it. Make it modular so I make it >> have it so that make it so the first time I press the co-pilot button it goes hey I'm co-pilot do you want me to
rebind this button to something else >> right now I do this >> do you want it it can also do this other thing or like I like I would I would where it can work with your computer in really good ways and then I could be
home to Microsoft all the time and literally screen recording everything I you and putting in your server farm just for someone else to steal it. So, I some stuff locally and then be able to just plug my own thing in and it still
has those capabilities. That would be awesome. You could make a really, really >> I don't believe you're going to. So, I'm trying to jump off the ship early, but man, I will help you for free. I will put in time. I will put in hours. You
don't have to tell anyone. You don't have to compensate me. Please. >> It's too bad because they are doing some stuff that is pretty cool. Um, I I left my I left my ROG Ally uh on our last trip. I'm getting it back. I did find
it, so that's cool. But on our trip down to Zero Trust World, I left my ally. So, I I grabbed a handheld to bring on this trip and um ultimately didn't end up
needing it. Like I said, Linux challenge and I'm using my laptop for gaming right now, but it had the it had the new the new gaming optimized Windows on it and it's it's pretty cool. The the Xbox
interface on the on the ROG Ally X series X or whatever the stupid thing is series X or whatever the stupid thing is called, it's like legitimately pretty cool and the RAM usage is way lower. Like Microsoft is putting in work.
They're optimizing stuff. They just have to not be at the same time breaking things and moving the user experience backwards. Like, dude, you that you're having over there right now, right?
>> Okay. Do you want to know what my CPU usage is right now? >> Yeah. What? >> It's hovering between about 3 and a half to 4 and a half 5%. >> What's your memory? And that's with
that's with everything I'm doing right now. So I have the live stream running. I have the chat open. I have the separate window where I have um the the
separate window where I have um the the call running. I have that app for my phone capture. So I have Wi-Fi up the butt because I'm also I couldn't get the wired connection working for my my phone as my webcam. So, I have all that data
streaming in and I'm sitting at a handful of percent. Now, I do have a lot of RAM use, but I think that's just because when ASUS sent this laptop to me, they sent me like a fully loaded version, which is honestly crazy given
the current situation. I have 128 gigs of RAM in this machine. So, I'm using 12 gigs of RAM. But when I look at my applications, I am sitting at a total of under two gigs. So I think that's probably just
gigs. So I think that's probably just the OS just caching everything. >> So So mine I have Chrome open with admittedly uh three flowplane tabs, one Google
sheet, one Google search, the Steam hardware survey, and the LTT store. Um, hardware survey, and the LTT store. Um, I have one notepad open with one page on it and I have the task manager open and that's it. I'm hovering between 15 and
that's it. I'm hovering between 15 and 20% CPU usage. I'm at 52% memory usage 20% CPU usage. I'm at 52% memory usage and usually around 5 to 10% disc because the Windows module installer worker is still just ripping. It hasn't it hasn't
stopped once. It's still the number one process. It has constantly been the number one process. The next one is like uh Windows event log. That just that just went down. It kind of jumps up and down all the time. Um and now I I I
before the show. We do have Sentinel one running. We do have Ninja RMM running. U those are in there. Those are never like the number one through five, but they are there is some stuff that we installed running in the background, but
are there is things running. I have stuff I have been using it as a desktop for a while. This happens when you have a system, you know. Um it's just I mean like Chrome is like usually like five to eight in the in the
usually like five to eight in the in the top processes like this and this thing uh it's it's mostly calmed down now. Before on camera without touching it, we saw it spike to like 75% CPU usage and it wasn't Sentinel 1 or any of those
also on here. It's just not showing up in like a highly like a super heavy right now. >> Um, >> comparatively like >> recall is recall is part of it.
>> Oh god, >> the recall preview. The recall preview. It probably sneaked its way back in. >> Yeah, I neutered those before I deployed screen right now. Recall sitting right there.
>> I'm looking at mine. I'm sitting at 50% CPU usage with a cool 42 gigs of memory >> Yeah, but you're >> Well, yeah, but you're handling this. >> That's not fair. >> My Ferrari is so much faster than your
[laughter] bicycle. >> This is a better person. [laughter] >> This is a better person. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> I can't believe recalls there. I I know that Dan killed it, too. It must have
that Dan killed it, too. It must have snuck its way back in. This is like This of here. >> I'm going to do another pass and rip out >> The recall preview. >> I learned how to neuter Windows 11, so
I'm a little happier with it now. Did I restore your rightclick menus on the desktop? I can't remember if I did that on those ones or not. >> I would have noticed if my right click wasn't working. That would have made me
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>> No, I want to know what's going on >> with the the chat going. >> Is it pokia? >> No. Uh, it was an image on screen. Don't worry about it too much. >> Uh, I did notice uh based factor meals a
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>> you should just have one called success chicken. >> I was like, >> "Don't forget your flat meat." different ones and I was like, "Yeah, [laughter]
>> There was like the chicken, rice, and asparagus. There was like the chicken uh I think it was like rice and corn and some type of broccoli or something. And >> jeez, >> chicken simple carb plus green. Yes.
Very good. Um >> all right. Should we talk about Linux hacked onto a PS5, effectively turning Sony's console into a Steam machine? >> Security engineer Andy Nion successfully ported Linux to a PS5 Slim by bypassing
Sony's hypervisor using an exploit called Byervisor, >> which is got to be the best name of an exploit I've heard in like so long. Bypervisor is so good. kernel. >> It grants kernel level control and
allows unsigned code to run. The hack required firmware version 1.0 to 2.0 if you've been keeping your PlayStation up to date, [snorts] this isn't really going to be a thing for you. However, once you got it running, it was kind of
awesome. The modded console could run GTA 5 enhanced edition via Steam at 1440p 60fps with ray tracing enabled. And because it's a PS5, supports 4K HDMI output, audio, and even had all the USB ports running. The CPU runs at 3.2 GHz
and GPU at 2 GHz with boost capabilities, although it did start overheating at higher clock speeds. Sony actually used to allow something similar on the PlayStation. Uh my notes say the PS3 had the other OS feature, and if you
go back even farther, you could just get a Linux disc that you could put in your PlayStation and run Linux on it. Uh when we did our I bought every PlayStation we did our I bought every PlayStation video, we actually showed it. Um
but they don't allow it anymore. But apparently nothing would prevent it and it would honestly, in my humble opinion, Luke, be the best solution right now for
>> Really, really cool considering you can run PS5 games. That's so sick. run PS5 games. That's so sick. >> A used Yeah. A used PS5 that could dual >> A used Yeah. A used PS5 that could dual boot Sony's PlayStation operating system
and Linux to just like run Steam would be the GOAT gaming machine for that price. Like killer. >> Super super cool. Super cool. Our
discussion question here is with Sony rumored to be pulling back from PC releases. Does a hack like this hint at a future where console hardware could be repurposed as a PC as the lines between
PCs and consoles keep blurring? Unfortunately, I don't think so. I think the Sony rumor that they're pulling back from PC releases, if anything, indicates from PC releases, if anything, indicates that Sony wants to draw clearer lines
between their consoles and general purpose software PCs in the leadup to the release of the PlayStation 6. I think they are recognizing that later in the console's life cycle, it's very beneficial to take that software and tap
into a new market with it and sell a bunch of, you know, Spider-Man to PC gamers. But if you want to move the machine, if you want to create the install base, you got to have exclusives. And I remember talking about
Machine where I was like, "Yeah, I understand Valve's like good guy philosophy where they don't want to have exclusivity, you know, you know, locked
games for the Steam machine and they want to be open, but at the end of the want to be open, but at the end of the day, games move consoles. It's that simple." And I think Sony is either recognizing or this was the plan the
whole time that when they launch a new generation, there is absolutely no way that they are not going to be that they are going to be a success going to happen. >> Man, Microsoft, they're like losing
there. I think people are genuinely getting just a little too over it when it comes to operating systems. I don't think we're quite there yet, but there are actually it does seem to be a lot more
actually genuinely switching over to Linux lately, especially >> that are mad about it. Sorry, I thought you were going to say that are that are fed up with it. >> No. Yeah, I uh I I know I know people
that used a Steam Deck and were just like, "Wait, this is fine." And like with Steam Decks and they don't even think of it as like I'm running Linux.
They're just like, "Yeah, I use a Steam Deck and it's fine." Like I don't even understanding like what that means. >> Um >> it's Steam OS. But that's the thing. Linux is not a dro. Linux is not an
>> I think I think DLS is going to be the one. one. >> Azour is running Linux. Copilot is kind >> Azour is running Linux. Copilot is kind of open AI powered. Like what do they
>> Yeah. >> The worst chat program, >> The worst chat program, >> I guess. But like honest, this is what assuming. Yeah. Have you had have you had to do anything with like
you been using? Libra Only Office. What >> I just use Google Docs. >> Google Docs. Yeah. Okay. I had to sign >> Google Docs. Yeah. Okay. I had to sign some PDFs recently and uh I I went with
>> Okay. >> And it was really easy and totally fine. >> Right. Did you have to pay like like five bucks for a picture its feed or
funny. There's definitely more things when you download Office 365. I I feel like I didn't hear something. Um uh >> that's okay. Everyone else got it. that you're downloading when you download Office 365, but only Office
downloaded fast and it like takes a while to download Office 365 and you hoops and do all these different types of things. And like I was probably done signing my first document before I would have been done installing Office. Um
>> oh, you have to I I remember for years it was a pain in the butt to even find the download link for Office 365 because they had it behind a login and then you log in anyway. I don't know if Adobe fixed this with Creative Cloud, but that
situation where getting the Creative Cloud application download link involved logging in and then you would have to log in again once you got it. It's like download this thing and then I'll log in once I get it.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's uh but yeah, I mean it was a pretty great experience. Um so just wanted to throw that out there. But yeah, Microsoft, stop taking L's, bro. I liked it when you were cool.
I really, God, this whole Linux thing has been fun. I would really love to to cool. >> That's something that I think a lot of people miss in all of our takes on basically everything is that we are not
>> one side. Sorry, Dan. >> Pro competition. >> Is this going to the to the viewers? Can they see this mouse cursor? >> Oh, that's my mouse cursor. >> Are you hallucinating a mouse cursor?
>> I'm sorry. It was on the wrong screen. >> Can they even see that? >> No, that's that's my fourth monitor. >> Oh, so it's just for me. Okay, >> Anyway, um >> we are we're pro competition.
competition between Windows and Linux and Mac OS and competition between Android and iPhone and and competition between Xbox and PlayStation. So, you're
going to see us like like I've seen people who are like Linus always flip-flops anyway and he's he's not consistent. Yeah, I'm not consistent consistent. Yeah, I'm not consistent under in a time when Nvidia is so
dominant in GPUs, for instance. You're going to hear me say, "Hey, like Intel's doing some really cool stuff over there right now." And it's really important that we acknowledge that because we need competition. And in the same way, you
know, even though I might say that from a day-to-day use perspective, there's a lot of aspects of the Linux experience that are not working too great for me, you're still going to hear me talk about how the Microsoft dominance in the
challenged because otherwise we end up with what we've got now. A monopoly always increases. Always. every single time it will turn to crap eventually
because competition puts pressure on us to do better. And so you're always going to hear that from us. >> Yeah. >> Speaking of which, Live Nation Ticket Master agreed to settle a federal
antitrust lawsuit with the Department of Justice. Uh and apparently they they won't be broken up. The DOJ reached a surprise settlement with Live Nation just one week into its landmark antitrust trial, allowing the company to
keep ticket master without admitting any wrongdoing. The deal caps service fees at 15% at Live Nation Menuus bars oh at Live Nation Menuus. Bars Ticket Master from requiring exclusive
contracts with large amphitheaters and requires all acquisitions to be submitted to the DOJ for approval regardless of size. Wow. Okay. >> Okay. The middle one is actually not that that helps a lot. the exclusive
>> the whole exclusive contracts thing. However, in my humble opinion, that's not enough. Carry on. >> Yeah, not at all. Uh, the settlement blindsided state state attorneys general. More than 25 states and DC say
they're continuing the trial. Anyway, the presiding judge called the process the presiding judge called the process entirely unacceptable after it emerged the DOJ and Live Nation had already signed a what had already signed a
preliminary agreement on Thursday without notifying the states, giving them [snorts] only 24 hours to decide whether to join. SeatGeek called it whether to join. SeatGeek called it incredibly disappointing. Senator Amy
Clolobachar uh said breaking up the company is the only real fix and rival promoters say 16 years of surface level remedies haven't worked. The settlement remedies haven't worked. The settlement still needs final court approval.
the deal and continuing the trial, does a settlement that lets Live Nation keep a settlement that lets Live Nation keep ticket master actually solve anything? The current DOJ is I look I'm not American so take this for all it is but
the current DOJ appears to be an enormous problem for people who want things like this >> which are important things that that >> which are important things that that impact everyday people lots of people um
seems to be a massive massive problem >> my friends call me they were like wow that's so many people [sighs] >> it it is it is so many people I mean if you buy a ticket for basically freaking anything you have to deal with ticket
anything you have to deal with ticket master and the um the clearly back alley deal that was done to reach this settlement um is just so clear that it
should be a wake-up call to anyone who's not certain how clear this was that it was very clear that this was a back alley corrupt deal and
DAO >> [laughter] >> Dude. >> Yeah, exactly. Exactly. >> The Dow though. >> But the Dow. But the Dow. It's It is so
fascinating watching politicians and billionaires talk about the stock market as though it matters to what what percentage is it of uh of even people in
in affluent countries like even in North America. What percentage is it of people who actually own stocks? I know that a lot of people will have part of their retirement um invested
in uh invested in stocks, but in terms of like actual like having a a personal portfolio, >> my understanding is is the the investment class is shockingly small. >> I know the I think it's the top 1% own
50% of the entire stock market. Um, >> yeah, Noki says 62% of US adults own stocks apparently. But that's the thing. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah. How much though?
like, "Yeah, I own I own four grand in stocks. I own I own like a couple grand in stocks." When the when the stock market goes up, you know, 10%. It's like
you made $400, which is like, yeah, okay, great. As long as uh you know, inflation isn't going wild. And that's not just, you know, treading water, but like in terms of people who own like significant
value of stocks. Like I remember I remember reading that it's like it's like shockingly small. Um I don't know the exact numbers. Errolaldo says it's something like the wealthiest 10% own 87 to 93% of the actual like dollar value
to 93% of the actual like dollar value of the stocks though. It's like okay cool. Oh,
guy. I do feel I honestly I feel like I've like missed out over this incredible like what is it like a 20-year bull run or something like that at this point. >> Business Insider in 2024 said that the
wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of stocks, >> even with market participation at a record high. But the Dow's pretty freaking sick, dude.
Let's let the Oh, man. Nah, I'm going to lose it. I need to In through the mouth, out through the nose. Um, [sighs]
what can we talk about? Don't worry though about that cuz the the dock just the Steam Machine is coming. Even with rising DRAM prices around the world and a slight delay in the Steam Machine release, Valve posted a blog post that
the Steam Machine, Steam Frame, and Steam Controller would all arrive in 2026 on that train. Uh, our goal of shipping all three products in the first half of the year, this is a quote, has not changed, but we have work to do to
land on concrete pricing and launch dates. They did also skate in uh the blog post that if you have a line on a bunch of RAM, we are in the market and would like to buy, which is, you know, probably a a joke, but still maybe
someone will. Uh discussion question. Going back to the original discussion about Steam Machine and the price it would hit, it would have to hit. Do you think your original guesses about price would make this more appealing to people
now that DRM prices have affected things so much? Uh yeah, >> I feel like it kind of has to be. Yes,
>> Yeah, >> cuz relative things will be accurate. >> Yeah. >> Uh but then again, I Okay, so higher >> Here's where I get a little confused though. On the one hand, yeah, DRAM
pricing has gone bananas and so has Nand flash. But then on the other hand, Apple just released a $600 laptop that from my understanding it is like trivially easy to get an educational discount on and is
$4.99 with the educational discount. Yeah, it's only got 8 gigs of RAM. Sure. But but still like price competitive products are clearly still able to be released. >> Still possible. So,
>> but then again, I I was >> there no I was talking to the the "How are they doing this?" And my guess is that Apple locked in their contract for this stuff like two years ago cuz they operate on a time scale and and a
general scale that >> they have they have the bank to do that kind of stuff. Um, and on top of that, speaking of that MacBook Neo, co-CEO of Asus, flipping loves it and is also pretty scared of it. Asus co-CEO,
pretty scared of it. Asus co-CEO, um, Sue. >> SY Sue. >> Sue. Oh, I was I was just trying to do the last name. Yeah, Sy. Uh, called the Apple's 599 MacBook Neo or $4.99 if
you're clever. uh a shock to the entire PC industry, which honestly, yeah, saying Apple has never competed at this price point before. Uh Sue said, "All major PC players, Microsoft, Intel, and AMD, are actively discussing how to
respond to the MacBook Neo threat, and they probably should be to be completely honest." Despite this, he attempted to downplay the Neo's appeal, pointing to its 8 GB of non-upgradeable unified memory and calling it more of a content
consumption device, similar to an iPad, also known as what almost everyone uses their laptops for. The Ves, he didn't include that part. I put that in there. The Vurges review also flagged slow SSD speeds as another notable limitation
alongside the RAM cap. Uh, again, it's 600 bucks. Um, that said, most outlets are reviewing the device quite positively and demand from the market is notable and I'm not surprised. That's amazing, dude.
>> What a crazy >> piece of hardware. Um, our discussion question is, do you agree with Sue's assessment that the Neo is just a content consumption device or is that maybe just a cope? I actually do
mostly agree, but I don't think it's the gotcha that maybe he hopes that it is because to Luke's point, the vast majority of what people are doing on majority of what people are doing on their laptop is content consumption.
you doing with it? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, content consumption. >> Maybe you did some GarageBand for fun. I'm sure that still works. I wouldn't be surprised if you can do some not super
crazy final cut. >> Oh, who? Sue is pronounced shu. wrong. Sorry about that. >> Shu. >> Um, also I think this is just the first
volley. Apple never, >> no matter how catastrophically a product >> no matter how catastrophically a product performs, Apple never launches just one. I Okay, I shouldn't say never. There might be an example at some point.
But like even Vision Pro, okay, got Yeah. got a follow-up. People are trying Pro got a new model. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Newton the Pippen. >> The Pippen. Where's our Pippen?
where it is. >> I has to have been stolen. >> Yeah, if Spanky 2K says even the weird hi-fi thing led to the HomePod. Yep. Like they Apple doesn't release a product in a vacuum. They release a
product with a freaking road map with a freaking plan. Okay. The trash can. Poke brick. Yeah, the trash can was kind of a disaster. Not in a long time, though. Okay. It's been a long time still. I'm still
>> a different It was just a different form factor for their desktop product line >> It was, but it was also kind of a dead end in terms of the paradigm. The end in terms of the paradigm. The paradigm of the Mac Pro as this like
kind of locked down, no expansion cards. >> Yeah. But like the Mac Pro existed before that. I understand what you're saying. I I I see the logic, but I I don't think it 100% fits. >> I see that in both ways. I see that in
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the point that I'm getting at, the point I'm getting at here is the MacBook Neo is almost certainly the first in a line of MacBook Neos. And I guarantee you that if they didn't have the limitation of only 8
didn't have the limitation of only 8 gigs of RAM on top of the package for the A18 processor that they would have at least considered allowing you to pay for a memory upgrade. I mean, Apple loves having people pay for a memory
loves having people pay for a memory upgrade or a storage upgrade. Now, they didn't go far in terms of the storage upgrades that are available on it. That does tend to be a way that Apple differentiates their top models.
So, for instance, the the latest iPhone, you have to buy the Pro if you want to get, I believe, is it 2 TB or 4 TB of storage, whatever it is, whatever the top storage configuration it is, you you have to get a Pro. And I would expect
have to get a Pro. And I would expect them to not offer a MacBook Neo with 200 gigs of memory and freaking 4 TB of storage or whatever. That is a differentiating point for them. But I would be shocked if the next one doesn't
would be shocked if the next one doesn't allow 12 gigs or 16 gigs as we make our way through subsequent releases. And with the way that software optimization is going right now, um, 16 gigs of DDR4 was like
um, 16 gigs of DDR4 was like good and a lot. And 16 gigs of DDR5 is pretty good and a lot. And like we it's, if you think about it, it's actually been quite a while since we've really needed more than 8 to 16
gigs. You know what I mostly been websites, but you can just close tabs. >> Like it's it's just it's just a little bit of convenience. It's not so much [snorts] >> Exactly. And so if we see an A19 Pro
>> Exactly. And so if we see an A19 Pro chip with 12 gigs of RAM in a nextG, [snorts] man, that thing is going to be killer. It's just going to be killer. It's going to it's going to destroy the the budget
Windows machine market. Like Apple is dude, Apple is freaking they're out for blood. Like it's like they want market share for a change. >> The Mac Mini is already like the computer to buy. Dro on the Linux side
seem to be hungry and Apple seems to be hungry and I'm very happy because Microsoft needs some people chomping at them. Um believe in a positive future for Microsoft. I just
god. >> And I don't think they're going to Luke is like eight or 9% of their business. It's less than 10% of their business. attention. They're not focused on it. I mean, they went and they put that AI
they? >> Yeah, but if you start if you start losing window Windows >> part of you're talking revenue >> and for sure, but I think if you start losing Windows, you start losing 365
subscriptions. >> Oh, you're 100% right. Like I think it's I think it's about like >> it's it's their infrastructure department that happens to make money. >> I'm talking about the the dangerous path
>> Oh, totally. >> If they if they manage their business based on counting beans. >> Yeah, you got to you got so many beans, dude. You got so many beans coming in. Your your bean income seems to be pretty
good. You should probably work on uh making it so that the thing that supports all your incoming beans is a little bit better. just let >> and okay honestly I'm going to use that argument the like it's 8% or whatever
just make it awesome whatever get the stupid ads out and stuff and just make it really good and go back to the whole just everyone uses Windows therefore Microsoft wins by default thing that worked for you so well and just make
money off Azure and make money off Office 365 business subscriptions person in the world is using uh Windows because everyone has these cheap laptops
just going to get MacBooks because they're for a business, you know, that student discount thing. For a business, they're 600 bucks. And if they run pretty good, a lot of users would love to have MacBooks.
[sighs] Anyways, we're reviewing right now our our subscription software at at work and >> we've been running into the like, >> okay, well, it's incredibly
to have to make a choice finally between Google Workspace and and Microsoft. And direction. I I think if I could speak for them, most of the IT team kind of
route. Um, I think from an IT perspective, it's easier and better for them. >> I viciously hate Teams. >> Sorry. >> Should we be ditching Teams? Are we
>> We're talking about ditching something. Either Google Workspace or Office 365, which includes Teams. >> Um, because each one of these are massive, very expensive contracts. I'm trying to save you tons of money is
I'm very aware. >> Yeah. So, we're trying to figure out one of them. If we ditch 365, the like popular tech bro route is to use Slack
and Google Workspace, but Slack is so expensive. >> Which sucks. And people are saying matter most just, you know, you can talk to each other if you want. Um it's so it's it's this thing, but there is the
curveball. I didn't I said I didn't believe them. I didn't believe them for years. I said on Wan, I didn't believe them. I was at Google and saw people's them. I was at Google and saw people's laptops. They actually use chat.
They actually just use Google chat. >> Are we going to go full circle and go >> We're trying to figure out We're trying to figure out do we go to chat and Hangouts? Do we go to chat and Hangouts and Google Workspace?
and Google Workspace? keeping our like insane pile of things >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, do we honestly, even though I hate Teams, honestly, probably sacrifice in the chat department?
>> And still have to have some people like the accounting teams, they're still going to need stripped down licenses for Microsoft so they can have things like Excel. They just need Excel. Excel is just the best at what it does. I I dog
on a ton of Microsoft things, but local desktop Excel is just unassailable as they just need Excel. Some other teams might need Excel. People that need Excel Excel. Uh, but we don't mess around with too much other stuff. Or do we go the
other route >> and keep Teams, but have to migrate all >> You're gonna have to You're gonna have to try my Google Docs from my cold dead hand. See, this is this is the thing is for people like you, I think it would be
easier to go the Google route, but for other people, it might be easier to go the other route. >> And
their subscriptions are going whoop >> cuz they're trying to bundle AI stuff of those contracts that include AI. They're just starting to include AI by because of it. and like all this crap is getting really expensive. Um, also I
think because there was like some unlimited data loophole thing or something, but back in the day you guys signed up for a pricey Google Workspace signed up for a pricey Google Workspace subscription. Um, so there is a way that
we could actually like half basically the Google Workspace subscription. And >> that was cuz we were using it for cloud backup and then nobody ever cancelled >> Yep. Uh, so we probably >> for one video that was
>> it's we think that it's still there. Uh, so we're we're very likely going to drop though, like that way that we figured out that email issue that you had. We >> Mhm. >> Um, so there there are thing but we've
>> There was one for a document security thing a while ago that you are aware of for >> um that I would have needed that tier >> um that I would have needed that tier for. and there was uh your email thing.
>> That's pretty good though. >> It is, but those are the only two times >> It is, but those are the only two times we've ever really used it. And it's like >> Jibus, >> you might you [laughter] might want to
just drop it. Um >> and I'm not going to lie, we do need to we do need to look at our expenses. I mean, I've been I think I've been very very clear internally and you know, talking to the audience on WAN show that
we don't operate in the same environment that we used to and we're going to have to find some efficiency. Um, I don't know if you saw this, Luke. Probably not because you don't stare at the the views dashboard as obsessively as I do, but
like week or so, we've had quite a few releases closer to like our old daily cadence. and um a handful of them actually like performed quite well and the the channel was just like going and
then we had one day that we didn't upload and the overnight dip which was something that I would look at traditionally in order to determine what the kind of like the background viewership is you know aside from your
your new release like your hottest new video um dipped below what it was before we had a bunch of like good performing videos over the last little videos over the last little So the the just like background VA
viewership of the library of content that we've produced over the years is that we've produced over the years is just going down as people's interest in the tech hobby waines. And we can see this with like u uh Google um what's the
search relevancy tool again? >> People are asking if his feed is lagging. I think that's just him being there's like there's like half a second there's like there's like half a second of there and back time. He's literally
>> I've been pretty happy with the stream so far. Sorry. Keep going. >> Yeah. Doing [clears throat] our best. Um and also as YouTube uh emphasizes shorts
more and more and more, it's just uh the the the back catalog and the competition increases for for people's eyeballs. Uh those those back catalog videos are just those those back catalog videos are just not getting any views anymore. Uh oh
now. Uh oh. >> It'll sell for flight. have to find some we're going to have to find some efficiency. Thankfully, we are pretty well diversified. We, you know, we have the creator warehouse LT store
team. Oh. Oh, good lord. Is my voice okay? At least >> getting some robot. But your voice is fine. fine. >> Okay, cool. That's great. Um, so yeah,
subscriptions, I would find it extremely hilarious if we ultimately went full circle back to freaking uh Hangouts, whatever they call it now. >> Yeah, I I don't know what we're going to do. We we are probably going to do that
subscription reduction thing, but we need to really figure out all the different levels of impact and then make sure that people are okay with us, you know, not actually having certain levels of tools. Um, but it would save a ton of
we need to figure that out still. And then after that, that seems like just we we should just like definitely look into that first. But then we have basically until the end of the year because there
are such massive penalties to early cancellation. Um we have basically till the end of the year to figure this out. And when AJ pointed out like look the cancell early cancellation fees are so
bad there's basically no point in doing so. Um and the contract renewals are basically at the end of the year. It was like, okay, we have some time [laughter] because this is going to be insane and painful
no matter what route we go. It will be bad. There is no like this is going to is no route without pain, >> but it will be a massive reduction in
cost no matter what direction we go. So, we're going to kind of need a direction >> YouTube and going in the direction of more and more shorts all the time. Uh, course anytime soon because it turns out YouTube makes more money from ads than
Disney, Paramount, and Warner Bros. combined. According to research firm combined. According to research firm Moffett Nathansson, YouTube earned 40.4 billion in ad revenue, while Disney, NBC, Paramount, and Warner Bros. earned
36.1 billion combined. uh parent company Alphabet confirmed last month that in Alphabet confirmed last month that in 2025 YouTube generated 60 billion with a 2025 YouTube generated 60 billion with a B in revenue which still trails behind
Meta which generated 196.2 2 billion in ad revenue, but u consider YouTube is >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Not all of Alphabet. That is pretty freaking incredible. And I think >> one of the most recent insights we've
>> one of the most recent insights we've gotten into exactly how YouTube is doing um revenue-wise. Uh the female audience says, "Hey, wait Warner Brothers?" Now, that that is still happening. that's still pending.
Uh but but yes, the the offer is in and I is functionally accepted, but they are still operating today as separate companies until such time as the companies until such time as the acquisition is complete. [snorts]
>> There we go. >> Nope. No, you're back. >> Cool. Okay. My only question for YouTube is when will it be enough and can you stop inupifying the service? Because I
heard they just added 30 second unskippable ads to TVs. we just going to go all the way back to cable TV with like 3minut ad breaks? Can we not? Please can we just not?
getting to be too much. We were talking before the show about how Theo Joe um have been, but Theo Joe posted on Twitter about like, "Bro, I'm done. It's
like too much. I don't want to compete with like actual just junk." And I run into it on the platform >> I don't want to compete with junk. I'd go on only fans. [snorts]
stuff up on the hub. >> Where's my ding, Dan? got to put our put our videos on the hub. hub. >> Um but uh
yeah, it's there's so much of it. It's crazy. Um >> Yeah, this is another tweet from Theo Joe. Uh Noki just posted this in chat. I
overwhelmed with garbage slop within a few years to the point where it will no longer be usable. And this comes back to the conversation I have with YouTube every time I can get in a room with them. And I may have an opportunity to
here. And I'm going to bring it up again. It's like, look, you guys need to again. It's like, look, you guys need to decide what you want to be. You can be Tik Tok. You can be Facebook and Instagram and just full of AI crap
garbage short form dopamine hit. Move on to the next dopamine hit crap. Or you can take a bit of a hit now and in the long term keep your soul, keep your long term keep your soul, keep your identity, be YouTube. Because and I'll
just I'm going to be really honest with them with the way things are trending them with the way things are trending right now, LTT in its current form may right now, LTT in its current form may not be viable in the medium future.
It just may no longer be viable. Um, like we upload relatively few shorts, but like I can tell I can tell in our analytics what they're pushing and what
they're not. And YouTube's response to this kind of thing is always, well, you know, we're giving the audience what they want. It's like, yeah, kind of, but they want. It's like, yeah, kind of, but also not. Also, you guys control how
prominent the short shelf is. you you you actually decide that and yeah, people, you know, click on it because, you know, you're you're the dealer and they want another hit. But you can you can be part of
can be part of breaking the cycle. Um, you can be part of of making YouTube an app that I don't feel icky about opening, that I don't feel guilty about using. You can feed me highquality content that makes me feel
highquality content that makes me feel enriched after I'm done consuming it. Don't just like it's like be a good parent, right? Like obviously my kids would eat more if I gave them candy at every opportunity, right? They'd eat so
much. I could have the kids that eat the most. Good for me. But what if there was a goal beyond that? What if I wanted them to be healthy? What if I wanted them to reach adulthood and go, "Thanks, Dad. I didn't always fondly my
>> Yeah. I didn't always use it because of that. >> Yeah. And sometimes sometimes I didn't do what you said and I went on TikTok and I ate candy. Um but I understand why you were trying to feed me something
different. Thank you. You know, maybe you could have that attitude. I'm starting to I'm starting to lose hope though. Um, speaking of encraptification, let's talk about Highense. Oh my god,
Sammy just told me something I didn't know. If you watch a lot of shorts on YouTube, the app defaults to a short when you open the app. That is unhinged.
>> I didn't know that. >> It kind of makes sense though. I don't even have the app installed anymore. And see, it shouldn't come to that, dude. It should not come to that.
>> I got so tired of shorts that I actually uninstall the app and I watch YouTube on my phone through a browser. Now, >> Noki says not even that. If your last watched video is a short, it will just launch a short.
launch a short. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah.
incraification news, owners of High Sense TVs in Spain and Britain have reported unskippable ads appearing during basic functions like powering on
during basic functions like powering on their TVs, switching inputs, navigating to the home screen, or changing channels. result. Reports of intrusive ads on High Sense TVs have been growing since 2022.
Tom's hardware reports and have escalated from small tile ads to unskipable videos. Uh we've got links to some Reddit posts showing incidents. Um do you want to fire one of those up? >> So I was reading something else for a
second. Which one is this? >> Highsense TVs. Want to show us one of >> Yeah. Uh, while you're finding it, the ads began appearing after purchase on sets with Highense's recently rebranded Home OS, formerly VA, an OS that is
licensed by other manufacturers. At least one of the complaints has been about a Toshiba TV. Some users have reportedly contacted Highense directly and provided their TV's unique ID to disable the ads. Spanish publication La
Razison, I don't know how to Spanish accent, but anyway, published a statement from Highense that denied wrongdoing, asserting that an incident covered was a one-off test that did not affect the normal operation of the
television or limit access to its main uses. This is translated by Google uses. This is translated by Google Translate. Uh the question for me in whenever a company uses this as an excuse is why are you testing that? you
>> Yeah. It's like it's like do you think that do you think that that would I don't know I'm in I'm in Korea so I got Korea on the brain but do you think that if the North Koreans you know did a nuclear test and everyone was like yo
can you not you know don't don't build a nuclear program and they're like well I was just testing it you know what does that mean right what does I was just testing it mean it mean it means you were testing it like why why did you why
were testing it like why why did you why did you need test that. thing now? >> I love this comment. Uh, Katos said, "Oh god, there's an emergency alert. Better turn on the news than you just get an
ad." Um, >> right. Like, can we not, please? >> What do you want me to read? Sorry. >> I wanted to see one of the examples. >> Oh, yeah. I know. I showed them all. >> Oh, brilliant. Okay. Well, I missed
>> Oh, brilliant. Okay. Well, I missed them. Uh, yeah. I I RFTW in float plane >> Here. Here's my >> It's not a bug. one. >> So, they're they're on their like
homepage thing. You can see them navigate down to >> here. Just >> Wow. And that that is a whole ass ad. >> Whole ad.
>> Rough. >> Wild, dude. Okay. Investment disclosure framework. Hear me out. Framework TV. >> It just wasn't crap. >> I'd be super interested. Genuinely. Oh
my goodness. Yeah. >> What about a TV that you could upgrade? You could upgrade the processor in for like your Google TV or whatever it is. Or or it just had a little like nook that you could like put an Apple TV in
firmware of the TV to just launch your Apple TV every time you you know what I mean? So, Black Raven asks, "Would it be a dumb TV or a smart TV?" I would see it Critic says that's just a TV with a dongle. But, but that's the thing is I
dongle. But, but that's the thing is I wouldn't want to I personally like They've rebranded it a couple times, whether it's Android TV or Google TV or whatever it is. I I like Google TV. It's pretty good. I like to use it. But over
time, you get heavier media files or, you know, whatever. I I might like to be more responsive. Sometimes I like gaming on it. There's a fun game called Bomb Squad that's really fun with a big group uh gaming on the TV. Choice. Exactly,
Ricky Bobby. Choice. I want choice. And so if somebody wants a stupid one, then yeah, have a stupid TV, have a dumb TV, and have it not do any of that stuff, and have it not do any of that stuff, but I also want to have the option to do
that. And if there was anyone that I would trust to do it, I think it'd be Framework. I think I I think I could trust them to not screw this up. >> I'm I'm pitching it. I'm pitching it right now.
course, they don't. >> They're going to be more expensive. I >> They don't work for me. >> Yeah. And And they're uh they're going make one. Like people have to realize that this crap is why is part of the
reason why TVs are so cheap now because they're monetizing. guys. >> Uh, I can maybe just do another topic
while we wait for him. Let me see if there's something. I can talk about Slay long as you want. We'll we'll wait for Linus to catch up here. Um, Slay the Linus to catch up here. Um, Slay the Spire 2 almost beat Silk Song's record,
which I didn't even think it was going to get quite that high, but I'm very proud of them. Good job, Megait. I've played too much of your game. Uh, the sequel to Megait's 2019 hit record. Well, just called Slave the Spire to be
clear. Uh, hit this one. >> Yeah. >> Hi. Um, hit >> they apparently recorded nearly 575,000 concurrent players after its early access release last week. It's still in
early access. That was, you know, whatever. Um, only about 12,000 players shy, which when you're at the scale of over half a million is not that much, of the indie record set by Hollow Night Silk Song back in September of
>> Not that long ago. September. Yeah, >> it was that long ago. >> Wow. >> I mean, I was going to say it was not very long ago, but yes, >> it's both. Both.
>> Uh, the game already has more than 43,000 reviews on Steam and is rated overwhelmingly positive. Yes. Let's go. Exciting. Uh, have I been playing? I have played. I played mostly on the plane to to and from Florida. Um, but I
It's >> I mean, it's a long flight. >> It's a long flight, so I got a lot in there. Um, it's uh it's good. I don't know if I >> Did you achieve your goal, Luke? I did.
>> When it was with every >> He's lagging to all heck. But he he take the self brag alleyoop that he gave me. Uh he asked uh did you achieve your goal of being it once at least on every single character before we got back. Um
and I only played it on the plane and I tried not to be too antisocial and yes I did like kind of Dan I think saw me do it like kind of as we were landing >> I think I finished the last run. >> You were like I did it.
right. We're we're landing. >> Still having conversations the whole >> Still having conversations the whole time. Yeah. Um, it's ah, it's early access. The original game went through a bunch of balancing over time. I think it
definitely needs more balancing work. Um, in Oh, right. I'm looking over here now. Uh, in in my opinion, it still needs some more work, but the the bones needs some more work, but the the bones feel really good in my opinion. Um, I
don't actually care too much that there's like animations now and stuff. Um, it looks nice. it just doesn't really mean much to me. Um, new necromancer character is like one of my favorite ones. I'm not super happy
about the current state of Silent, which is generally my favorite character. Um, so I'm hoping there's some rebalancing stuff that happens there. Um, but yeah, do over the course of the early access and then what they do after the fact.
Like Sisfire 1, if I remember correctly, I I think it was like released before Defect even came into the game. I'm not I'm not sure when it was technically out. Um and then Watcher came after as well. Um the difficulty floor is so much
higher than STS1. That's interesting. It feels just actually easier to me. Um interested in what the community thinks about the the difficulty of the game
about the the difficulty of the game there. I have found that there are more like kind of just I run into a mechanic and I'm just like gh like the I think it's called the time eater in slire one of the act three bosses which is super
annoying because if you played a lot of cards then it just hard directly counters you and almost all my favorite decks on almost every character was just play a crazy amount of cards. Um, so it's really annoying to run into time
eater. And now I find that there's more like time eater style enemies where it's like, "Haha, you decided to build your deck that way. I guess you have a bad time now." And I don't love that so much. Um, again,
>> Yeah. >> Um, or sorry, everyone calls it expedition 33 where it's like, "Oh, you are not built in this exact way. are not built in this exact way. Therefore, your your break damage is too
low. And you can beat this boss, but you will have to grind. >> Like there there's an end boss called the queen. Um, and I haven't read a
bunch of like other people's opinions on science 2 yet, but I read one thread because I was like, do other people >> I heard that one was super. Thanks for >> I heard that one was super. Thanks for asking.
>> I don't get it. Um, but uh yeah, I was like, I wonder what other people think about this like horribly difficult boss. And I honestly thought all the other act might as well been like elites or not even that hard. And then the queen is
just like this horrifying mess of destroy my everything. And then I read online that everyone's like, "Wow, that's the easiest one." [laughter] And I don't know what's going on. So, I might not have opinions that line up
might not have opinions that line up with other people. Um, I also find that apparently people were saying that the queen punishes hyperoptimized decks and if you just like grab cards for fun and your deck isn't like built around a
certain system that you have an easier time with it and I tend to try to make optimized decks. But then that's it runs into the same problem where it's like especially when you're running on really high difficulty, you're probably going
to want optimized decks. So then you just have like a die roll that if your game has the queen as the end boss, you just lose. Like I I don't like that. That's what I really really hated about um Time Eater. But anyways, Slay Spire,
overwhelmingly positive, even if I don't currently like it as much as Slayer 1. And I think they can uh tune things up because they have in the past. And Mega Crit is based. And I even really liked their other random game, uh, Mega Crit
Dancing Game. Will I be able to find it this way? Dancing Duelist. This game, I this way? Dancing Duelist. This game, I believe, is even free. Uh, it's on it.io called Dancing Duelist. And this game is super fun. Yeah, you can just download
the the zip for Mac, Linux, or Windows right there. super fun. This was their first exploration into GDAU, if I remember exploration into GDAU, if I remember correctly. Um, and it's it's a fun
correctly. Um, and it's it's a fun little game. Uh, let me see if I can swoop game play. Yeah, you pick your little dancer bro and then you have your different cards and then the game kind
of like semi-auto plays, but it's like you build the deck and then it kind of blah blah blah blah. For a game jam game, holy crap, it was amazing. >> That's cool. It seems to be done the jump ship jam which is over a month. So
>> Oh yeah, it was like pretty polished and stuff. >> Month game jams intense. >> Yeah. Uh but yeah, cool. Slay 2. Sweet. a long time. >> Very nice.
>> All right, why don't we jump into >> We're doing sponsors and four, good sir. internet choppiness? >> It seems to be green. Am I good now? >> You seem good now. >> Yeah, I uh I turned off my Wi-Fi and
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>> Oh yeah. >> Oh, that's funny. Uh yeah, I had this I had this situation before the show where this was doing a weird thing and I >> I also one quick last thing quick I swear about Slay the Spire uh is the
very first event I did on my very first run uh I I got an it was an option. I could do something who knows never choose that choice or I could get an egg. And spoiler alert, don't listen to this part. Plug your ears if you care
don't think anyone does. Um, >> I'm plugging my ears, but I have headphones in. What am I going to do? >> Lionus. Yeah, Lionus doesn't care. Um, but I was I hatched the egg, and this was first event, first run. I'm just
>> No, maybe I don't want to know. I don't want to know. >> You literally get a little bird bro. I'm not going to worry about it. >> You get a little bird bro and he fights with you all the way up the spire. The
can't lose. I can't lose when I have bird friend. That's impossible. That can't happen. I just thought it was amazing that my first run, I got bird it was great. >> All right,
let's jump into Sony appears to be experimenting with dynamic AB pricing on the PlayStation store. PlayStation store price trackers at psprices.com have been
following dynamic AB pricing experiments since late last year where Sony has shown users varying discounts of up to 27.8%. The experiment has lasted over 4 months and included over 190 games in over 70
regions including the US. Affected titles have included developers like Sony, 2K Games, Focus Entertainment, Deep Silver, Bethesda, Rockstar, and Ubisoft. Our discussion question here is are deep discounts coming to consoles
>> what I don't think that's >> the more important discussion question >> the more important discussion question is dynamic pricing. Can we not infect absolutely everything with this? Can we just have the price be the price? Like,
discounts coming to consoles. I think this is uh trying to extract as much possible dollars from each possible person you can by like tracking what
like and making sure that there's optimal amounts of discounts applied to each individual person so you can extract as many dollars as possible at any given time. Um this is super bad. This is just a bad
>> mromut says, "I was about to say dynamic pricing on a digital store is pure evil, but if it's just discounts, I'm not as upset." But that's the thing. >> dynamic discounts are just dynamic pricing.
pricing. >> Yuck. >> You could kind of consider that everything is a million dollars with a certain amount of discount applied to it. Like it the the original price
>> [sighs] >> Oh my god. Have you seen some of the uh about Best Buy's compare app feature? We already talked about it a couple weeks to go through the whole thing, but people are posting some unhinged
comparisons. Like, I think there was someone bought open box AirPods or was to brand new AirPods. It's like, okay, yeah, sure. That's that's how that works. >> I think that's what I saw. $350 of
>> Gross. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Um, in other news that's gross, Meta has >> Um, in other news that's gross, Meta has acquired Molt Book, the social media
platform for AI agents, bringing the company's founders, Matt Schlickt and division. Um, Schlick says he built Moltbook
without writing a single line of code, relying instead on his personal AI assistant, Claude Claudberg. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed. >> Oh my god. In other AI, >> our discussion question is,
>> does whatever research benefit we might gain from AI agents sending each other pictures of their lunches outweigh the cost of natural resources? Thank you, Jordan, for asking such a leading question with such an obvious
answer. >> In other fun AI news, Amazon's AI coding tools linked to outages as internal documents reveal push for senior signoff documents reveal push for senior signoff on generated AI code after a 6-hour
Amazon.com outage and multiple AWS incidents. Internal documents seen by the Financial Times show Amazon uh senior vice president Dave Treadwell calling out a trend of incidents tied to Gen AI assisted changes with a high
blast radius and pushing for senior engineer signoff on AI assisted code changes. Amazon disputes the framing saying only one incident was AI related, none involved AI written code and the signoff requirement isn't being formally
signoff requirement isn't being formally mandated. Um, the last part. Okay. Uh, >> That's not the win you think it is. >> Yeah. The AWS incidents included a >> Yeah. The AWS incidents included a 13hour outage caused by Amazon's own
Kira AI coding tool deleting and recreating an entire environment which Amazon attributed to user error rather than AI itself. Everything can be >> and in a lot of ways fair enough, but that's why you need the signoff thing,
right? Uh, discussion question. And Amazon's own internal memo blamed AI saying it's the opposite. Who do you believe? Uh, the internal memo. >> Internal memo [laughter] >> 100% of the time. To be clear, internal
>> Yeah. >> But when I'm comparing it to a PR statement, it's going to be the internal memo 100% of the time. >> Yeah. It's not corporate popular right now to be like, "No, no, no. The the the
ours. They have problems." That's not That's not going to go well right now, >> dude. Silicon Valley, like the TV show was just so far ahead. Like it it it
feels like uh it feels like it it feels so accurate that it's it's almost creepy at this point. >> Yeah. Um Yeah.
>> I I don't know how to deal with it. Like it's it's it's gone full circle from it's it's it's gone full circle from like so outlandish or so true to life that it's funny to so true to life that it's not funny anymore.
>> Wet melon says, "I work at a Silicon Valley company. I still haven't seen it." Lol. I should really get around to that. You really, really should. If you've ever been anywhere near a startup or a big tech company, it is so [snorts]
funny. Like I don't understand how it's that just how it captures the real that just how it captures the real experience and yet manages to be funny and not just depressing. It it's it's so good.
>> I actually have only I've not seen the entire run. I think I've only seen the on Blu-ray. >> I binged the first season with Austin >> Really? >> Yeah. It was great.
>> We're hanging out. Um, >> Nintendo is suing the US government over >> Nintendo is suing the US government over tariffs. Uh, Nintendo is seeking a full refund with interest of tariffs it paid under the EA executive order signed by
President Trump after the Supreme Court struck these orders or sorry, multiple orders struck these orders down in February. Over a thousand companies, including Costco and FedEx, have filed similar suits with a judge already
ruling that they are in fact entitled to refunds. Nintendo's lawsuit has since been automatically paused pending the outcome of a broader Supreme Court case covering all similar claims. Um,
Trump has since announced plans to reimpose tariffs through section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974, which is a more legally constrained method, and has two dozen states, uh, over two dozen states already suing over that move as well.
already suing over that move as well. Here's the thing that I'm going to just come out and say I'm finding a little bit confusing about all of this. bit confusing about all of this. I have
paid through companies that I am either sole owner or or partner owner uh a lot sole owner or or partner owner uh a lot of money in tariffs for products that we have imported or exported into the United States. Um there is a part of me
that would obviously love to have that money back. I I I'm pretty sure it's like over a million dollars. like a a lot of money. We we sell a lot of goods on ltdttore.com. It's a good store with great products. People love them and uh
businesses has been uh okay. Um you know, there's a lot of headwinds right now. You every every all hands you hear Taran use the word headwinds. Um but but overall, you know, we've been we've we've diversified. The team has uh
stuff, you know, we're we're getting it done. And so with that volume of business, there's been a lot of money that has gone towards tariffs.
I'd love to have it back. But here's the thing. Um I believe, not I believe, it's it's just I believe it is a fact there. I'll say
this, that tariffs are in fact a consumer tax. So, why would I get the refund? So, here's what I'm kind of trying to understand. And I know that for someone
understand. And I know that for someone like Nintendo or Costco, right, they Costco, I don't actually know that Nintendo is making this argument, but I know that Costco made the argument that they held their pricing steady, right?
In or they absorbed the tariffs because they believed that they would be able to sue for the tariff money back and that would make them whole eventually. I mean, you know, minus interest obviously and opportunity cost and whatever else,
and opportunity cost and whatever else, right? Um, but in the current climate, where will we find the nuance to differentiate between a company like Costco who claims, right, and I would
tend to believe Costco, they've operated with pretty strong integrity over the with pretty strong integrity over the years, who claims that they ate the cost compared to other companies who pass the cost along to consumers.
and then we'll basically be taking back free money. How do we differentiate that? How do you prove that? their argument actually is they they haven't started this stuff. And if I
remember correctly, the Nintendo suit is already paused. And I think the big part it's just too complicated. So, we're going to have to see where that goes. Um, I also think like uh I think as far as my understanding
goes, we tried to keep prices down for Americans. So that would partially include us. So maybe there needs to be just a refund in both directions. >> ours was complicated >> like some products things
>> and I'm sure that almost everyone is probably kind of like us. >> Yeah. uh because it was so volatile and at times there was a tariff one day and then there was like oh forget it the next day and and it was just it was
chaos. Um there were times when we just ate it. There were other times where we went to our suppliers and we worked with them to to to manage margins across the board. So they would take a small hit,
we would take a small hit, and we'd make a a small adjustment to pricing. So everybody's taking a small hit, the consumer, us, and our manufacturers. Then there were the times when we just we had to we just had to increase
we had to we just had to increase pricing. So we've done all of them. So what's the right thing to do? >> There's also uh I don't know how to say chat said, "Yeah, so what about companies that raise global pricing to
>> which did also happen? >> That's tough. Where's that? buyers? >> Yeah, >> it's not happening. >> So, basically, this is the this is the
>> So, basically, this is the this is the dumbest possible outcome because the US dumbest possible outcome because the US taxpayer gets nothing for all of it. of it. >> It's like the least surprising.
>> They don't get any of the money. just funnel more money to the rich. >> And are we really just going to give a refund to the corporations who you know what from my point of view we're were dramatically inconvenienced by this
affect our revenue and it did affect our profit. It wasn't just inconvenience. profit. It wasn't just inconvenience. This was a serious problem with the money that was charged and also the haphazard way that the whole thing was
haphazard way that the whole thing was implemented and messaged. It it burned countless countless cycles and a ton of money for us. Like the whole thing just is looking even dumber and like an even stupider,
more useless crap outcome than I even could have predicted. And I was pretty opposed to the whole thing in the first place for the whole thing in the first place for fairly obvious reasons. Just wild. So
fairly obvious reasons. Just wild. So dumb. Did you hear about um a government uh affiliated official that's been running around uh selling um or basically buying companies tariff >> uh refunds for like pennies on the
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Corruption in plain sight, boys. >> I think he's a dude in like the financial >> part of the government as well. >> Like I think he might have uh some
happening. >> Um say so wait say the name again. >> Uh was it Scott Besson >> Uh was it Scott Besson >> Bessen? Yeah I thought it was him. Um
>> I can't remember. No >> there we go. Isn't he still in finance >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. uh United States Secretary of Commerce. >> So like the a person doing finance stuff
>> who like is going to have a lot of influence. I just this. We got a couple more to go. I need to get into after dark here. This is getting brutal. Um [laughter] BYD reveals charging network in world's
longest range EV. Chinese automaker BYD has reportedly been testing a 1,500 kWh flash charging network in Shenzen that is capable of adding 249 miles of EV
range in 5 minutes. That means this network is more than three times faster than the ultra rapid chargers that currently exist in North America and Europe. The test hub uses liquid cooled charging guns, which
just sounds awesome, that allow users to roll up, plug in, and handle payment on either the infotainment or an Android app. The pricing at the demo site was about 18 cents per kilowatt hour, making a
charging session about 15 bucks. Meanwhile, in America, Cyber Trucks currently handle the highest charging speeds with peaks at around 500 kwatt hours. So, a third, if the claim is real. Uh, BYD's luxury brand, Denza,
real. Uh, BYD's luxury brand, Denza, also teased their new Z9 GT SUV with 644 also teased their new Z9 GT SUV with 644 mi of range, a 64% improvement from the mi of range, a 64% improvement from the current Z9 GT model's 391 mile range,
which is priced at around 50,000 USD. USD. It is worth noting that the Chinese um It is worth noting that the Chinese um range estimates are are not as um as
range estimates are are not as um as difficult as the EPA uh US ones. So, there's a bit of translation that'll have to go on there, but that is still freaking wild. That's an enormous range for for an SUV. It's not a big SUV, I
don't think. Um, trying to see like how what would this be? It's more Model Y or Model X. It actually looks amazing. >> This is the Z9. I decided I'll just look it up. But like that $50,000 car, dude. Like damn.
>> I'm so stoked on Canada being able to get BYD soon, dude. They're going to sell out instantaneously. There's I think it's 50,000 cars that they're in total allowed to bring in.
They're just all going to disappear. Looks like that inside. 952 brake >> 950. >> 952. Looks like that inside. Looks like
those aren't going to instantly disappear in Canada? People are going to buy those immediately. >> 950. Is that a joke? Blindness. How much How much your Porsche got? >> Uh
>> Nothing has that much. >> I can see the video now. I bought a new car. Lionus Sebastian >> 400 >> the 2023 I can't remember if I have a
2022 or a 2023 but they should be the same power the 2023 Tyan Turbo S50 to same power the 2023 Tyan Turbo S50 to >> 616 horsepower uh which increases with >> 616 horsepower uh which increases with launch control to 750.
launch control to 750. So, this SUV would have substantially more horsepower than my stupid tyan. >> Ridiculous. >> I really like absolutely ridiculous >> on their dash. I really like kind of how
there's like other EVs with this to be very very clear. It looks like they have very very clear. It looks like they have dual um wireless charging pads for phones. I think passenger and driver. And then I like that just in front of
the wheel is actually quite simple. Um, there are there are lots of other they get a little bit too busy right in front of the wheel, and I I don't like that. Keep the infotainment in the middle.
Damn. Damn. fake detection to include politicians, government officials, and journalists. That's it. That's all that I really have to say about that. They say they'll
still protect parody in satire. um that involves these public figures. But yeah, this is this is a good thing and they should they should do deep fake detection more and just generally AI detection more and not less. Also, after
complaints, Google will make it easier to disable generative AI search in photos, including a toggle for fast classic search. Nice. Nice. Now, what I want to know is where's my good fast nonAI Gmail search?
Gmail search the other day where I looked for a keyword that I knew for sure was in something recent and it wouldn't bring it up. It only brought up there should have been like hundreds of emails with this common word. And I
actually had to use for the first time the Gemini Gmail search in order to find it. And it found it immediately. But I was just so annoyed with that workflow. Just just find the word. If the email contains the word, bring up the email.
How complicated is this? Google was good at this 10 years ago. Why do they suck >> All right. >> I I don't exactly shop for cars too often, but this is cool, man. >> Is that seriously 50 grand?
happens. >> It won't be here. That's like converted. transportation costs and they'll have to cover their just their operational costs of running in the country. So, I would suspect it'll be closer to like 75 or
>> Yeah. But not like 150, which is kind of what I would expect for a car that looks like that. >> It has those specifications. >> What if I click space? What does that do? Oh, wow.
Scenarios. [laughter] Yeah. This is weird. >> Did you see the shocks? I'm sure there's like other Again, I don't exactly buy for new shop for new cars ever, but um
they made. >> You can you can look. >> Yeah, just no touch. >> Can't wait to buy one on Craigslist in >> it's going to be sick, >> dude. They have a freaking like what,
bro? >> Again, 50 grand. Like the the big ones compete with Maybach and they're like 100 grand. >> That's wild, man. >> Dele audio system. So, they even ponyed
up for bougie co-branded for their audio >> and still managed to make it this cheap. >> Are those legal in Canada? I don't think so. Digital side mirrors. >> I don't think so. >> I don't think they are either.
cold water would be dope. >> I know. >> Anyways, enough drooling over that car. Um, what do we got next? There's something I think. Are we done after >> topics? I think it's after dark.
>> topics? I think it's after dark. >> Let's go Okay, I got a few checkout messages for you here. First up, first, you really
you here. First up, first, you really need tall sizes for the gray RGB shirts. Um, second lld. What are your favorite guilty pleasures? guilty pleasures? >> Self- serving, Dan. [laughter]
>> Second [laughter] up, LLD. What are your favorite guilty pleasure treats and first. This is the first merch message we received. So, double first. >> Oh, man. I've got I've got lots of guilty pleasure treats and candies. I I
have a wicked sweet tooth. I remember this one time. You know those uh those colored that you could get in like a bulk pack at Costco? Yeah. You know the ones I'm talking about? I once ate an entire Costco bulk pack of those in a
weekend sitting gaming at my desk. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] We're talking like an actual brick of sugar. >> Holy crap. Damn. That's wild.
>> Yeah. I I I got I've got a sweet tooth. It takes it takes a lot of discipline for me to eat as little sweets as I do these days. As I'm getting older, I can't I can't do that anymore. My metabolism used to be like hyper and now
metabolism used to be like hyper and now I just I just can't. Um but like Oh man, I love me a perfectly toasted marshmallow. Like marshmallow. Like oh love that. Um
spicy ramen noodles. That's my like late at night >> Oh yeah. Oh, just like a a a I'll make like I have eaten in one sitting continuously as many as three packs
plus eggs just likeom nom nom nom nom nom after midnight. Um I Oh, this is a bad one. I once ate, you know, the dumpsters like kind of like crappy white
bread cinnamon raisin bread. I once ate in one sitting in the middle of the night when I was like craving a midnight snack. An entire loaf of it. butter. >> I've got one of those entire butter.
>> Every slice. >> You might still have me then. Uh my like diet when I used to work at the bread factory, so this would have been >> not way too long before I met you to be honest. Um
>> yeah. was I would bring a can of stag chili to work. Um, and a bowl, but I wouldn't bring any utensils and uh, you know, statute of limitations, whatever. policy where like if there was a bag of ruined bread, you could just have it.
Um, so a a single bag of bread would just fly out of the facility for some ground and that's ruined. So then I would eat stag chili with an entire loaf of bread and that would be my lunch like every time. Um, so I would buy stag for
with like when my parents would go to Costco, we'd get just tons of Costco stag chili packs. So they're super cheap. And then the bread was free. And that was my meal. That was like I was effectively like one meal a day fasting
[laughter] cuz I would eat a whole loaf of bread and a can of steak and just be like, "Hell yeah." >> [laughter]
while. In terms of guilty pleasures, these are rare, but these are rare, but >> a uh a a long-term LT staple community person, Mate, got me onto these, but they're licorice from New Zealand called
RJ's. Um, and you can find them in stores every once in a while. Um, I know like way back when we worked out of the Langley house that there was like a
grocery store that was near the corner store that was down the street. I don't remember the name of the grocery store, but that grocery store had it. Um, >> Was it Nes? >> Oh, wait. Oh, I don't remember what
mind. >> I know. I've been there. I went there a Savon. The Savon was just down the hill. So, like I didn't go there that often, but there's a couple times. Um, >> dude, I have so many more.
>> I mean, yeah. Another one that I I really like, which I think this might be really like, which I think this might be controversial actually, is Hawkins. Um, >> Hawkins. I've never tried that. >> Hawkins Cheesies.
>> Hawkins Cheesies. >> I I got a rifle here. >> Yeah. Hawkins Cheesies. Uh, it's Canadian brand, Canadian made thing.
>> Uh, something that I really like is that the ingredients is like pretty chill. >> yeah. Okay. >> Not about to say they're good for you. don't think they're necessarily either of those, but the ingredients list is
what's happening, which is >> neat. Um, but yeah, they're Canadian, >> I didn't know the brand was Hawkins. >> Yeah. Well, cheesy. Yeah. Cheesies with a zed. And they're like they're normally the the crunchier kind of like smaller
>> Not the poofs. >> Yeah. I don't like the poofs. I like Hawkins. That's another one that's like it's when they're around, they're neat. >> My My probably biggest guilty pleasure
though has got to be breakfast cereal. And I'm talking like like the sugar bombs, chocolate frosted sugar bombs type like Nesquick. Uh, Honey Nut Checks. Oh gosh, Cinnamon Toast Crunch. I would
>> Something I'm I think I'm fairly lucky for is I liked those when I was a kid, but now I I genuinely just prefer like Musli. Like actually just really like it. >> Especially you you cut up some banana in
>> Especially you you cut up some banana in it, too. Like way through the winter without doing this. But I uh I will make a cup of hot
chocolate and then I'll put probably about this much whipped cream on the top about this much whipped cream on the top of it and then I'll get a spoon and I'll eat the whipped cream off the top and then I'll hit it again with whipped
cream [laughter] all the way down the cup. I love whipped cream. I think it's funny cuz you you usually eat like quite clean and then when when when you [laughter] dive off the end, you just go really
hard, >> dude. 100%. >> dude. 100%. >> 100%. And like for me, as long as I can >> 100%. And like for me, as long as I can as long as I can pass a pinch test, like
I'll eat like the dirtiest stuff, like oh dude. But it's for me it's all about the it's all about the pinch test. But when I don't pass the pinch test, then when I don't pass the pinch test, then I'm extremely disciplined.
interested in a framework 12, but I was seriously turned off by the price of RAM. Do you guys think that the framework 12 is in trouble unless the price of RAM falls? I think everything's in trouble unless the price of RAM
falls. that's been a a major point of discussion in the tech space for the last 3 to five months. It's it's a it's a 3 to five months. It's it's a it's a major problem. Um yeah. Yeah. I I think
they're in trouble if the price of RAM doesn't fall. I doesn't fall. I I hope it kind of seems like there's signs of cracking in the AI bubble right now. It hasn't, you know, entered
freefall or anything like that, but isn't Oracle stock like way down right now? Uh I think everything's stock is way down right now. >> Oracle stock is is definitely down.
>> Uh >> yeah and I think like because of AI over >> yeah and I think like because of AI over over reason that Oracle's coming down. So >> down 3%
I'm not going to hold my breath. day they're down like 2 and 1/2 3%. 5 days they're up 2 and 1/2 3%. 1 month they're down 3-ish%. 6 months they're down 48.6%. >> So
>> yeah, if you look at the six-month trend, things are not looking good. >> Nice. >> Nothing matters. >> Yeah. So So it following the AI bubble and then maybe we're maybe we're on the
>> Hopefully. That'd be awesome. I saw a new animal used to describe the stock market. Apparently, we're in a kangaroo market. Boing. just up and down.
you in the face. >> Yeah, that still seems right. >> Yep. Absolutely. Tracks. >> Yeah. What's up, boys? Luke, how's your fitness journey going? Would like to know if you tweaked your diet at all
lately. Looking good, my boy. Uh, the last comment's a little surprising. It's not going well. I basically for >> Well, it's all relative, Luke. I mean, compared to where you started, I think
>> Yeah, that's probably true. >> I can see where they're coming from. imperfection, but yeah, >> I'm very frustrated right now, basically. So, okay. So, I was traveling a bunch and was kind of out of the gym
because I was still working out when I could. Like, I got a workout in in Hong Uh like I was I was trying to make things happen. I was keeping it going and then I came back and I had this crazy rena that lasted for like over 6
months. Um so I was inconsistent about my workouts. Then a crazy rena that went on for a long time where I couldn't really use my kitchen. So I had like really use my kitchen. So I had like nonprepared meals and no gym time for
nonprepared meals and no gym time for over 6 months. Um, and that really What are we hearing right now? >> Uh, Ivon's back in the room. >> Oh, okay. Um, I thought that was local. Sorry. No, you're good. I thought that
>> Yep. >> So, I I lost a lot of traction there. And the big problem that I'm having realistically right now is that old injuries that I had like had under control. they weren't dealt with. They
weren't fixed, but I had them under control are now again not in a state that I would consider under control. Um, so like I I
a few stairs to take the stairs in my building and I try to take the stairs exclusively every time. Um, and every once in a while that'll kind of throw my knee out a little bit and it's just like damn man. Like I think a week or two
ago, I literally went up one flight of stairs and my knee was like nope. And it's just like like this this was something that I had completely solved like not that long ago. And then just through I and I had talked about this on
lots of people where I was like, "No, I just have to do this forever." And I didn't really think like I I knew I was doing stuff, you know, I'd work around Like I I didn't It wasn't like laziness that was keeping me out of the gym, but
I didn't go to the gym for a while and my diet went to crap. And that everything kind of back. So, I have to go through this like reparative phase again, which I've been working on. I do these like uh like I don't know what you
weird lunges where you get your knee way over your toe. Um and and do there's a guy. I've been following some of his stuff. That's how I uh originally fixed my knees was following some of his stuff. Uh my shoulder I don't have
anything particular. It's just these things that I call side poles. I don't hanging. I do both of those and those help, but like my hangs have gotten a lot worse cuz I wasn't doing them. Uh and and yeah, backwards running. Like
do, but they're just in a terrible state right now. So, I can't like it's just very frustrating and I would way rather
work out a you can't work off a bad diet. Yeah. But you can really support a much worse diet by doing a lot of activity. Um and I would way rather it's junk all the time. I just hate eating very little. Um I hate that scenario.
I'd rather just be active and then eat like a pretty decent amount. >> Um rotator cuff exercises. Yeah. So my my things are both of my knees, but mostly my right knee, but it's both. >> Um my right shoulder cuff and my lower
speared there in hockey when I was younger. Um, the back is kind of the least problematic one, but when it's a problem, I'm out. [laughter] It's like when it when it kind of flares up, I'll be done for like a month. Um, but it's
be done for like a month. Um, but it's it's it's very frustrating. I I knew and my lifts were going to be way lower and that was going to be annoying. I didn't expect the like actually you can't go you have to go for walks all
things and do this like really boring stuff that has no like measurable improvement. I like number go up. I don't like oh maybe I feel better today. I can't really tell. That's not very fun
and it's difficult to be motivating but I just have to do it because I have to get back on track. So I'm planning this. If I remember correctly, it's like three If I remember correctly, it's like three more weeks I'm going to try to go into
the gym and try some stuff. And I'll start with pretty low weights and be pretty chill and just try to see how things feel. And I'll probably only do like I don't know once or twice a week at the beginning and just try to kind of
ease back into it. But I got to be careful cuz I'm dealing with some stuff. Yeah, I have very particular things that I do. >> that's fine. We're not necessarily going to be doing the same stuff. I'm just
me and Jaquin are there on Mondays. >> Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Usually I >> um at the end there was on a weird >> No, Monday is usually a day that I do. Monday is usually legs for me. I like
starting the week off with legs because legs takes the most energy legs takes the most energy >> and it is generally like the least like men don't tend to like doing legs as much. So I just start with that one. Uh
and then yeah so I I used to do Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and then I was shifted to I think it was like Monday, Thursday, Saturday for a bit there. U but I'll detail here. Yeah, we're we're we're losing it. But anyways, [gasps]
it's a little off track, but I'm trying to get back on the tracks and I'm like we'll we'll figure it out. >> Now, Fanboy NZ says, "Have you considered GLP1, but I think I can probably answer this for you." Luke's
probably answer this for you." Luke's goal is not to have side effects and goal is not to have side effects and take a drug and do it the easy way. His goal is to be physically fit, which does not necessarily mean the
shape. It means like he wants his strength back. that. >> I don't actually care that much about the the shape. Obviously, I do a little bit, but like the the goal is that I
want to feel capable. Um I want to be able to run. I want to be able to jump. I want to be able to sprint. I want to be able to lift. I want to feel capable and feel healthy. That's my by far primary goal. Um,
>> Rivet says GLP1 is not the easy way. So, what would be the easy way for weight loss then? >> Like, are you I I'm I'm having a hard >> That's the first time I've ever heard that.
that. >> It's a head start, right? Which is for nearly two years and been working my butt off combined with it." Well, right. >> I mean that's the exact same relative that's the exact same and actually
argument of steroids. Like you don't just become Mr. Olympia by just taking steroids. A lot of they will make you they will give you muscle masters kind of automatically. But also a big part of is it reduces your recovery time. So you
can work out more. You have to you have to try harder. [laughter] It unlocks to try harder. [laughter] It unlocks trying harder. Um yeah. >> sorry man, you're over 30. That feels good thing has sailed. No, I actually
completely disagree. There there was like uh before this happened, before the house ran out, I was mostly feeling pretty good. I felt strong. >> Um things were doing okay. Obviously, there's going to be lows, but like
there's relative I'm I'm speaking relatively and relatively right now it feels terrible. Uh but it also feels a little bit better than it did last week. little bit better than it did last week. So like, okay, we'll keep going.
All right, Dan, hit me. >> Hello, Menalgen. The Linux challenges are always interesting to me. I've been using a Fairphone 6 with EOS and loving it. When is the EOS or Lineage OS challenge? Also, happy day before Pi
Day. I would actually love to look at Lineage going to put it on the list. It's been on the list for a long time, but I'm going to I'm going to surface that in my inbox. Uh, Lineage OS is um
is is such a cool idea to me in theory as a way to squeeze way more life out of older Android devices. And I I'd love to see now that we have 5-year-old phones that are totally still good enough hardware-wise [snorts] today, uh, but
maybe aren't getting software support anymore. I' I'd love to take a crack at it again. Yeah, I used to run it. It's awesome. Um, last one I got for you here. Hey, >> hold on. Pointed question. Uh,
>> you said it's awesome and used to. Why'd you stop? >> Got him. >> It's only available on some very >> Seems like a fair enough answer. >> I'm so sorry.
>> I'm so sorry. Yeah, a lot of these are specific phones and I don't generally go for the generics, but I do always try and buy the ones that have unlocked bootloadaders for the future in case
someone makes one in 10 years so that they can keep working. Last one. Hey they can keep working. Last one. Hey DLL, just hit my 30s. Career is peaking and my GF and I keep getting the when's the wedding questions. Any advice for
this stage of life? Anything you wish you knew in your early 30s? >> Sleep. I've I've wrecked my I've wrecked >> Apparently, you're supposed to work out with steroids. I'm just hearing this
>> I got to I got to talk to my dealer. >> Don't work out with steroids. Just come >> Don't work out with steroids. Just come work out. Um, work out. Um, sleep.
need that advice. >> I'm not doing very good at this. >> I got nothing for you. >> I don't know if any of my advice is going to be that applicable. I did my I did my early 30s in my early to mid20s.
U just like went from well I'm in high school now I'm in university now I'm supposed to get a career. While I'm in a career now married now I'm supposed to have a kid. Um now I have a kid. Uh okay let's let's
going. Oh, I'm going to start a business. I was just like go go go go go go go. And uh there's a lot of arguments to be made that that is not the right for right choice for everyone. [laughter] So [gasps]
>> yeah, >> you know definitely you know for me partnering up was critical to my success. Um but you know I fully recognize that you know if if if the wedding is not you
know right or the timing is not right for you then that's you know that's your choice. You got to be you got to do things on your own terms but also if kids you also got to understand that time is not infinite. Um I remember uh
before but Ivonne was what were you von 26 when when you talked to Dr. Tam about uh our middle child. Yeah. And uh she goes, "Man, it's just my sciatica pain is worse and my fatigue is worse and
like my sleep is worse and everything is everything is harder this time." And he he wasn't even looking at it. Didn't even bother to turn around. He goes, "Well, you're no spring chicken." And it's like, "Bro, like what are you
talking about? We have this perception today that like you just like have kids in your late 30s or maybe even like in your 40s and that's like totally fine, but from like a biological standpoint, that's not how our bodies work. Um peak
[snorts] peak childbearing years are way before that. So if your plan is to do that, then the people who are asking, hey, like are you getting on with it? May just have your, you know, your health
and your best interest in mind. Um, but I will say that having kids young, there were a lot of things that we really didn't feel ready for. Um, Ace of Tunes says, "My mom had me at 32 and the last was at 36. She was fine." And that's
nice, but that doesn't change anything that I said. So, cool. >> I don't have anymore. >> No, that's it.
>> That's it. That's all. So, we'll see you again next week. Same bad time. This ain't bad channel. Bye. Provisor. Provisor. Such a good name.