give people a chat box that can do unlimited power and they're like, "Tell me a dad joke." In the technology world, the underutilized capabilities are so big. It's almost trit now to say the models are far ahead of the value they're delivering. >> The whole history of software from 1960 until 2022 was you would take a filing [music] cabinet and you turn it into a database. The cool thing about everything that's happening in AI land is that the filing cabinet can do work. >> The idea I would vibe code my own workday and then run it is terrifying. However, there is a great gain we are seeing internally in extensibility of software using things like V coding. >> Everyone has been talking about the SAS apocalypse. Some people call it the catastrophe. Why is there too much fear about this? >> As I've said, not every SAS company is going to thrive through the next decade. We're not here to defend all of software obviously.