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title: 'House of the Dragon Season 3 Premiere REVIEW - Was it Good?'
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# House of the Dragon Season 3 Premiere REVIEW - Was it Good?

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## Summary

The video is a panel review of the 'House of the Dragon' season 3 premiere, hosted by Ryan Arey with guests Cameron Casky, Harriet Lingo, and Alex. The panel discusses the episode's big naval battle, character development, and compares the show to its predecessor 'Game of Thrones' and the source material 'Fire and Blood'.

### Key Points

- **Opening and Guest Introductions** [0:20] — Ryan Arey introduces the review of House of the Dragon season 3, episode 1, acknowledging mixed reactions to season 2. He brings in guests: Cameron Casky, Harriet Lingo, and Alex, to discuss the episode.
- **Cameron's View on Spectacle vs. Character Depth** [2:42] — Cameron says he has 'resigned' to House of the Dragon being like the better episodes of late Game of Thrones—focusing on spectacle, sets, costumes, and performances rather than nuanced character moments. He compares the naval battle to 'Battle of the Bastards' in scale.
- **Harriet's Enthusiasm for Staying the Course** [4:08] — Harriet loved season 2 and is pleased that season 3 seems to be staying the same direction. She appreciates the show’s consistency despite criticisms.
- **Alex's Difficulty Connecting with Characters** [4:46] — Alex finds it hard to care about many characters in House of the Dragon compared to Game of Thrones, where characters were instantly compelling. He highlights the fireplace scene and Rhaenyra locked in her room as standout moments.
- **Cameron's Critique on Character Writing** [11:39] — Cameron feels some characters feel written differently per episode and that side characters in Game of Thrones (e.g., Oberyn Martell, Lyanna Mormont) were more memorable than many main characters in HotD. He praises the acting but notes inconsistent writing.
- **Harriet on Adaptation Challenges** [13:56] — Harriet argues that comparing HotD directly to Game of Thrones is a disservice because HotD is more focused on a smaller cast. She blames some issues on the difficulty of adapting 'Fire and Blood' (a fictional history with many characters).
- **Ryan on the Battle of the Gullet's Placement** [24:10] — Ryan explains that due to the writers' strike, the Battle of the Gullet was moved from being the penultimate episode of season 2 to the season 3 premiere, which affected pacing and character introductions.
- **Harriet on Swapping Nettles for Rhaena** [29:58] — Harriet defends the show's change of replacing the character Nettles with Rhaena, arguing it keeps focus on family (Rhaena is Daemon's daughter) and makes Rhaena more important. She notes that the dragon seeds (bastards) are unnecessary in this battle.
- **Cameron on Missing Characters from the Book** [34:58] — Cameron points out that in the book, Rhaenyra's sons (Aegon III and Viserys II) are present at the Battle of the Gullet, which is a major plot point. Their absence in the show is a significant change that may upset book fans.
- **Final Ratings and Predictions** [48:23] — The panel gives their ratings out of 10: Alex – 6, Harriet – 8.5, Ryan – 7.5 to 8. Ryan teases future events like 'Tumbleton' and praises the battle's scale.

### Conclusion

The panel largely enjoys the season 3 premiere for its spectacle and performances, but some find the character writing inconsistent and struggle to connect with the cast compared to Game of Thrones. The move of the Battle of the Gullet to the premiere affects pacing, but the show remains highly watchable for fans of the franchise.

## Transcript

Let's rewind. Rewind.
>> Welcome back, Screen Crush. I'm Ryan
Ary, and today we are going to talk
about House of the Dragon season 3,
episode 1. Did it work? I know a lot of
people didn't necessarily like season 2.
Got my thoughts on that that we're going
to get to in just in just a second. But
you got to admit, we had an enormous
battle here. A lot of complaints about
season two where there weren't enough
big battles, and this was the biggest
naval battle in Game of Thrones history.
And of course, spoiler warnings are
ahead for House of the Dragons season 3,
episode 1. So, we don't want to mince
words or waste time.
So, let's bring on our guest. First of
all, you know him as the intern we fire
at the end of every video, Mr. Cameron
Casy. What's going on, Cam? Hey Ryan,
how we doing? House of the Dragon
season.
>> There we Yeah, good so far. I've only
seen the one episode, but we'll talk
about that in a second. And of course,
the writer of our House of the Dragon
Easter egg breakdowns, Miss Harriet
Lingo, right? Hello, Harriet. How are
you
>> doing? Really good. [laughter] Happy to
have back.
>> We're Man, your breakdown was great. And
you we have a video coming out like
right after this video where you break
down all the costumes of Game of
Thrones. It's one of my favorite videos
we've ever done. So, I can't wait for
you guys to see that. And of course, a
regular here on the show. You know him
as the guy who's always on hold, Mr.
Alex. Alex, do you have a second? How
long are you on hold for?
>> Uh, yeah. No, I'm actually, it's weird.
I'm on hold with my mom. We had a really
good conversation by the fireplace last
night. I thought it went great, but I
guess not. And now I'm just waiting for
it.
>> Oh, no.
>> Too much.
>> No, it's a little too soon.
>> All right. I can't wait to get to that
moment. I want to apologize to
everybody. We had to move it from 2 to
245. Uh, but I forgot to change it. So,
a lot of people are waiting. Sorry about
that. And we already do have one super
chat from Phil Rumba from Down Under,
which I'm going to address right now
because he's been waiting for 45
minutes. That naval battle was
spectacular, he says, for eight
Australian dollars. Tense, brutal, and
beautifully shot. And the death at the
end hit hard. Outstanding television.
How's Doug? Doug is great. And as a
reminder, guys, super chats are
encouraged, but not required. So, I want
to get everybody's thoughts on the
episode. Then a little bit later in the
video, I want to talk about where this
episode and this show is differing from
the books and whether or not that's a
good thing. So, mild spoiler for the
books ahead as well. Cameron, what did
you think of this episode?
>> Um, I've kind of resigned to um House of
the Dragon being just sort of like the
better episodes of late Game of Thrones.
I think the smaller things that I love
with the characters and the more nuanced
elements that made Throne so exciting
for me and that make me love a lot of
Night of the Seven Kingdoms. We're we're
kind of past that. I don't think we're
getting back to that in House of the
Dragon. The thing that makes House the
Dragon mustwatch for me is the
performers, the sets and costumes, and
the spectacle. So, uh, a lot of the
story beats and a lot of the choices
that are being made with the story and
the characters are not necessarily for
me, but I mean it the casting director
for the Game of Thrones universe is just
unbelievable because these performers
are so arresting. I could be watching a
scene and thinking about how upset I am
about the writing, but be so entranced
by what these performers are able to do
with it. It's just it's remarkable. But
I think of this as like comparable to
Battle of the Bastards where I'm
watching this happen on screen and I'm
like, "Wow, this isn't the type of thing
you get to see on TV. As a matter of
fact, if you saw this in a huge movie,
this would be considered an
extraordinary giant setpiece in this big
hundred million dollar movie. But, you
know, don't think too hard about the
nitty-gritty elements. You know, that's
not what this is. Okay. All right. Watch
the Seven Kingdoms.
>> Well, I want to get to the nitty-gritty
elements in just a second, so hang on to
that. Harry, what did you think of the
episode?
>> Broadstrokes.
>> I mean, I loved it. Um, I'm a huge House
of the Dragon fan, and I just uh I want
them to keep on doing what they've been
doing. Uh, I was a little afraid uh at
after the reception of season 2, which I
personally loved. I know it wasn't for
everybody. Um, but I was worried that
they would sort of try to change
direction in season 3 because of the
fact that some people didn't like it.
And I'm pleased that at least so far it
seems like they're staying the course,
which I have enjoyed and want them to
keep doing. [laughter]
>> Yeah. And um, well, I want to hear from
Alex first and I've got a follow-up to
both you and Cameron. Alex, what were
your thoughts on the episode? Yeah, I
think I share a lot of the thoughts of
the other folks here in that I actually
also like season 2. The thing that
really pops to me on the show is like
Cameron was saying, the conversations
between the characters, the ones that I
really care about, the thing that's
difficult about this show versus Game of
Thrones for me sometimes is Game of
Thrones, you basically fell in love or
absolute hate with almost everybody
instantly. like they just had this
special skill with the show of bringing
on a character like oh that's the worst
villain I've ever seen in my life or oh
that person is doing kind of
reprehensible things but I love them at
the same time and house of the dragon
has sometimes struggled with that I
think other than say Allison Rea who are
phenomenal across the board really our
point of view characters the ones that
we hook into or I'll speak for myself at
least that's how I feel about it but my
difficulty with this premiere was it
focused mostly on a lot of the
characters that I have not hooked into
or I have to think for a second, wait,
which sister is that? What's going on
here? Which dragon is happening? And I'm
not I'm not as into the spectacle to be
honest. Like you can have these big
battle scenes. And obviously they're
thrilling and enjoyable and well done,
but the smaller scenes in this episode
really are the ones that pop in to me.
just mentioned two very specifics and
I'm sure we'll talk more about them
later, but the fireplace scene and the
scene of Rea being locked in her room,
those were two real stands out of the
episode because you got to see these
actors acting. And not to go too far a
field, but uh Allan Septimal, great TV
critic.
>> Late last week, he posted an interview
that he did on the 10th anniversary of
>> Oh my god, I'm blanking on what? Uh was
it Hardome? The one
>> I'm guessing
>> where Ty Tyrion got conked on the head
and missed the entire battle that
episode.
>> Blackwater.
>> Yes. And he was
>> Green Fork is the one where where they
couldn't afford to shoot it so they just
knocked Tyrion out and it ended up
working out pretty well.
>> Yeah. And it was Alan Taylor talking
about that choice as well as the fact
that because they didn't have the budget
they had to do an 11minute dialogue
scene of them just sitting at a tent
playing games. And that's Game of
Thrones to me. That's Westeros. That's
the thing where like I get like prickly
all over my skin and excited and alive
versus watching a bunch of ships very
slowly go through a pass and a bunch of
dragons flying around in a circle. It's
cool, but it's not the same level.
>> Well, one of my favorite authors, Jason
Paren, he's been on the channel once
before and I would have him on more
often, but it makes me nervous because I
love his work so much. He had a great
video recently where he talked about um
criticisms people have on Game of
Thrones. said the show is better than
the books, which I haven't read all the
books, but his argument was there's a
lot of scenes that are in the show that
you don't people don't realize are just
from the show. Like the conversation
between Jaime and Tywin, you know, a
wolf does not consider himself does not
consider the opinions of the sheep,
things like that that were invented for
the show. Lady Elena, much bigger in the
show than she was in the book. Um, but
then he his theory is that after a hard
home, which is why it was on my mind,
then Game of Thrones, suddenly the show
had an expectation to always deliver on
spectacle and those smaller moments went
by the wayside. And I personally thought
season two needed more smaller moments.
I didn't care if it ended on a giant
crescendo. Uh, season one of Game of
Thrones, the giant crescendo is Ned
Stark being beheaded. Spoiler alert. And
I don't think you necessarily need that
big moment. I thought the the Dragon
Seeds was that big moment, but I would
have liked two more episodes of the
exact stuff you guys are talking about
of like people in rooms and gardens
talking, you know, like South Park did
when they made fun of it. But Harry, you
loved it. So, what are your thoughts on
that? Could you have used more smaller
moments?
>> I mean, I think smaller moments in this
episode or in season two.
>> Um, well, season two had the smaller
moments, but whatever your thoughts are.
Go ahead. Yeah.
>> I mean, I think um I actually do agree
that the big battles are not my favorite
part of this show. Um I know a lot of
like I was kind of hyped up for this
battle because I feel like everybody was
like it was like oh it's like the
biggest most complicated most expensive
you know naval battle. Um so I was
curious to see it but definitely the
most memorable parts of the episode to
me are not uh from that. I mean I am the
well I won't say the biggest but I think
I'm probably up there in terms of the
biggest Allison High Tower stands in the
world.
This [laughter] is a good It is a good
Allison's episode right there. I'm just
saying
>> I'm just saying I'm I'm right there too
for her. That's
>> okay. Okay. I thought she has never done
anything wrong. She has never done
anything wrong in her entire life.
>> Perfect mother.
>> Perfect mother.
>> Perfect mother. Um you know, just
morally upstanding from the beginning to
the end. Um, but no, I I love her so
much and I think like you mentioned the
scene with her and Aean was viscerally
like uncomfortable and also I just love
to get to see Allison using her skills
like her manipulation, her cunning
>> for the sake of Reneer in this episode
is really nice. Um, I love to see it no
matter who she's using it for, but it's
nice when it like feels like a morally
[laughter] correct thing to do
>> because season two took her off the
board for so long. Like Aean's
manipulated and you know, as soon as the
men had what they wanted, she was pushed
off to the sidelines. So, yeah, I agree.
>> Yeah. So, she's taking her power back in
this episode and also realizing once
again just how uh horrible both of her
children or both of her sons are. Uh
yeah, Helena is
>> holding out hope for for Dron and uh
Helena is lovely, but
>> apparently Dron's really nice. Like he's
got round. [laughter] Yeah.
>> Um and you know, just before we talk
about like get your thoughts on the
nuances here and the things you didn't
like. Uh while we're talking about big
battles, I do have Okay, so we always
talk about merch on here. We've got two
pieces of merch that I already have in
the mail for myself. I love these
shirts. I can't wait for you guys to see
these. This is the Dance of the Dragons
tour shirt. God, it is so cool. So, you
got like the heavy metal look in front
with the Seven Kingdoms tour and then on
the back those are all the battles from
the war from the Dance of the Dragons. I
like this so much we might end up doing
one for um like other shows and battles
and things like that. Uh like imagine
doing that for Lord of the Rings. That'd
be cool. And this one is my favorite
characters in this part of the story,
the Winter Wolves. We came to Die. And I
um the fact that it's like Chibs from
Sons of Anarchy, whose name I can never
remember, but the fact that he is
leading the Winter Wolves makes me so
excited. They're this badass group in
the winter. They're old men who go into
the the cold to die and I'm just so
excited to see it happen. But that's in
the future. The the links for those are
below. And remember, if you are a store
member at our $5 tier, you get 15% off
our merch store. Cam, so what do you
think? What lay in lay into it here? You
don't have to just be nice. What what
what's the nitty-gritty about this you
didn't enjoy?
>> Um I well I I just I again I' I've
programmed myself to enjoy the show now
because I can't let it hurt me anymore.
You know, I've set boundaries with the
show. So there's just certain ways it
can't disappoint me. Um
>> you sound like a true intern, by the
way. I mean that [laughter] you know um
I I I we won't get too specific but not
unlike certain Game of Thrones
characters. I've worked in politics for
a while and you learn to set emotional
boundaries in those situations. But look
I mean I am a little ambivalent towards
certain characters in the story and I
think that um certain characters have
felt a little bit like they've been
written differently depending on what
episode we're in. And it just
>> in Game of Thrones, the side characters
were so distinct. Like Ober and Martell
to me on Game of Thrones was more
memorable than the majority of the main
cast on House of the Dragon. And Ober
and Martell didn't have a lot of screen
time. Bella Ramsay's character, uh,
Lyanna Mormont, uh, that little
monologue, uh, you know, the King of the
North monologue that that Bella had at
the end of season six
>> was so memorable to me. And I think that
there's a lot of characters who get a
lot of screen time in House of the
Dragon that aren't able to make that
distinct impact. I mean, it really is
the supporting characters like there's
so many characters you you go
>> Elena Martell. I mean, they're also
talking about world-class casting too,
either from veterans or upandcomers like
within
>> and that's and that's just it's on the
script. There's no two ways about it
because, you know, I I can think of
maybe one or two performances that
haven't been super compelling on House
of the Dragon, but not really. I mean,
every
>> And are you being nice by not naming
them right now?
>> I can, again, I can only think of one or
two. I have both of them in my head, but
I don't think either of them are bad
enough that they deserve to be shamed
like that. It's up to interpretation.
But I mean,
>> you're so nice.
>> What these actors are able to do is
really insane. And some of them do a
little some of them do a lot with a
little. Like um obviously Emma Darcy and
Olivia Cook are extraordinary. We don't
need to talk in any more circles about
that. Um but then you get somebody like
Aean. I think his name is Euan. That's
the actor's name.
>> Euan.
He he does this very interesting thing
where it's like he has a very theatrical
performance of Aean and he it feels like
he's doing a different sort of acting as
the other characters. Kristen Cole is so
small. His monologues that he gives I I
say this to people, Kristen Cole is
actually the best adaptation we've ever
gotten of A Feast for Crows because if
you remember the book A Feast for Crows,
so much of it is ruminating on the
consequences of the war from the first
three books. So much of a feast for
crows is almost like a reflection and a
meditation on the war of the five kings
that hasn't fully ended, but you know
what I'm saying. And Kristen Cole, his
monologues that he gives, his long
scenes
>> with high Tower feel like the best of a
feast for crows in a way that's really
cool. But then you have Aemon and Aeund
is like a Shakespeare villain. So, one
of the really cool things on House of
the Dragon is everybody's contributing
in a very unique way and it makes the
whole thing feel sort of like a big
symphony where everybody's got a
different instrument and everybody's
contributing something special that's
distinct from one another. Um, but
again, in terms of the voices of the
characters, in terms of the words on the
page, I just don't have a really good
job telling one Targaryen descendant
from another necessarily. H well, Alex.
Okay, so you mentioned that on the
original Game of Thrones, um, not your
words, but I'll paraphrase. Everybody
was drawn with pretty broad strokes. You
were, you know, you knew up front like,
"Hey, this guy is a cool character. This
guy Joffrey."
>> Cio's one of the best examples. Cerio
had five minutes on screen. You never
forgot him.
>> Yeah. And his speech was not in the book
to bring up another point from Jason
Parson. Um, given that, I kind of feel
like House of the Dragon is a little bit
more nuanced and subtle in how it
presents these characters. Uh, there's a
lot of gray area with them. Maybe
because we saw them as children, so we
understand why Aean is the way he is.
Would you say that how this how does
this show's subtleties compare to Game
of Thrones? And which one which approach
do you like better? [snorts]
>> Well, I think that's interesting. I
mean, certainly watching them over time,
like you're saying, allows us to watch
them develop, but like Cameron was
saying, I think some of them, and not to
take any of his words, but uh some of
them just have not developed in
interesting ways. I mean, I'll I'll call
out names. I don't care. Uh Kristen Cole
is the most boring character on the
show, and I hope he dies. And it's
>> favorite character, though.
>> I'm sorry. It's crazy to me because
Fabian Frankle is so funny in interviews
and so charming. Like really you just
the second you turn him on turn on a
camera there any footage I've seen any
interview I've seen he's like joke joke
joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke
joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke
joke joke joke about it then you turn on
Kristen Cole and he's like [laughter]
I don't care about rape I don't know I
just got to paint my shield that's what
I got to do
>> well he's going through it though he's
suffering from PTSD at [laughter] this
point okay yeah it's not the most
exciting thing
>> I'm sorry and this is obviously this is
personal preference but just when they
cut to that scene I was like oh man oh
here we go
>> a sad a sad detach hatched guy is it
>> exactly and I don't want to watch a guy
scorned incel
>> I don't want to watch a guy who doesn't
want to be there like if he doesn't want
to be there I don't want him to be there
you know that's very different from
what's going on with like say Laris and
Aegon who are going through a very
>> very classic uh Game of Thrones
situation where they're like we had very
high status and now we have to pretend
to be low status and things are going to
get steadily worse and worse and more
horrible for us until maybe we learn a
lesson and become a little better or
maybe not but that's Great. Like that's
worked a billion times on Game of
Thrones. I do think it's going to work
here as well. And those are characters
that have popped in different ways and
now thrusting them into a different
situation because we've watched them so
so long is going to challenge them. I'll
throw out one other name which I feel
bad about because I really love the
actors. But part of the reason I
couldn't hook into the battle of the
gullet was that there's a bunch of
characters that I've had a hard time
caring about. And I say this like
>> good point.
>> Steve Tusant, fantastic actor. I'm
blanking on his name, but he's the guy
who played father on Raised by Wolves,
which is an amazing show that everybody
should check out. He plays Allan, and
he's awesome as well. But
>> there's nothing really going on with
their characters now that it's Reus who
died, right, who was phenomenal. But
without her as that rudder for that
storyline, they're just sort of kind of
wandering around. We get this to the
point of Game of Thrones style
introductions. I'm also blanking her
name. Was it Shakaro Lohan? I'm getting
that definitely very
>> uh Lowhar
>> Lohar something like that. We get like
again like a classic, oh, she's not a
Greyjoy, but she's basically a Greyjoy
cool pirate lady who comes in with this
awesome introduction and then brings up
a set of circumstances that as far as
I'm aware, we've never heard about in
the show and suddenly have to
emotionally hook into and then she's
dead by the end of the episode. And I
was like, I don't know. There's there's
something again, not to throw everybody
into the same situations over and over,
but I do feel like the difference
between Game of Thrones and House of the
Dragon is she would have come in, burned
High Tide, wrecked the fleet, taken the
sea snake and his children hostage,
tortured them for an entire season, and
then we would come out with a better
understanding of her, a better
understanding of them. Instead, it's
done in one and half the episode, and it
just doesn't have the same impact. I
don't know if in season one too.
>> No, it does. It does. So, Harry, what do
you think? Um, are you do you think
there's some characters who are like
underserved right now or that aren't
allowed to fully bake or what are your
thoughts and responses to what these two
guys have said?
>> I mean, I agree that there are some
characters where I feel like I'm still
waiting to see how their characters are
going to be. Like, I would love to for
more screen time, which I'm sure we're
going to get this season, uh, with like
Baya and Raina. Um.
>> Mhm.
>> And um
>> I
>> but I think um in some ways, not to like
be complete House of the Dragon defense
hour over here, I think we're kind of
we're kind of doing it a disservice by
comparing it so directly to Game of
Thrones. I feel uh because Game of
Thrones was in its essence an ensemble
show. Um whereas
uh I think that House of the Dragon is
much more focused on a much smaller set
of characters.
And so I think uh that there certainly
aren't as many like scene stealing uh
side characters, but I think that that's
not unintentional. Um and I do agree
like I I think Lowhar didn't quite work
for me as a character. I think waiting
to introduce her to the last episode of
last season. Um and I just think that
like the the triarchy stuff just doesn't
uh doesn't interest me that much. Um,
but I think in general
um I I find that there are a lot of uh I
also think that in talking about how
there are side characters that are
ineffective, we have lists of like a lot
of side characters that are very
effective. Um,
>> very true
>> and like like Laris um like uh and I I I
think that I am actually quite
interested to see what's going on with
Coralus. So I was uh I'm I think he was
a real standout in season two for me. So
>> for Lowhar, I was standing around in
season two.
>> Well, he was depressed. He was also
quite sad for a long time.
>> He was hanging up. I mean, it's really a
testament to how hard it is to adapt
Fire and Blood. And I think a lot of the
people who have trouble
>> you who who are upset about certain
choices. I mean, I'm very upset about
certain choices, but I also want to just
I want people to understand if you
really know Ball, if you really
understand Fire and Blood, you
understand that there were just going to
be some impossible choices that Condol
and Hess had to make. And again,
>> I think that they made choices I don't
like that they didn't have to make. But
at the end of the day, um it's a very
complicated piece of writing, Fire and
Blood. There's a lot of things that were
they under the same scrutiny under which
George put uh the Ice and Fire main
books just would not have gone down that
way. There's some things I'm not going
to spoil that are going to happen later
this season in King's Landing that don't
make that much sense in Fire and Blood.
And it's awesome. I mean, I chewed Fire
and Blood up. I don't read quickly. I
finished it very quickly. But there's
just some stuff
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. There's just some stuff that once
you take it you there's some stuff that
works because you're reading other
people's accounts of it. But once you're
there and you have to be in the scene
fivedimensionally, the writers are going
to have to make some choices and it's
just going to leave some fans very
upset. Um but again I I just I wish
there was I wish there was a platinum
globe for those actors really. Well, let
me let me let's start talking about the
adaptation and by way of the characters
I think were underserved in this episode
and only because I know how important
they are and let's let's avoid specific
spoilers for the books, but um the
bastards, right? So, that was the big
culmination of last season. Uh it was
the the dragon seeds, you know, and then
seeing like how coarse Ulf is. Hugh
Hammer was probably my favorite like
side character in Fire and Blood the
whole freaking volume. and and the they
gave him a great setup with his wife and
his his dead kid. Felt really bad for
him. And in this episode, they got one
scene. And I kind of I as much as I
appreciate the focus actually shifting
to Reneer's children in this episode
because usually it's on Allison's kids.
I do kind of want to see those guys do a
little bit more. And I'm sure there's
going to be more. I mean, Alice shows
up, she talks to them and stuff like
that. But nevertheless, that's the one
thing in Fire Blood. Those characters
really pop off the page and I felt like
I don't know, you can kind of just maybe
it's me and I don't want to spoil
anything, but you can kind of see what's
going to happen. I think they're
telegraphing it too hard.
>> Can I just say uh for anyone who isn't a
total dork like us and just enjoy
>> We lost everyone who's watching the
channel. Wow. Stream went down to zero.
That's crazy.
>> I've never seen that happen before.
>> You can buy You can see all the Ice and
Fire books behind me, by the way. So, if
you're if you're someone who isn't like
this, you might not know this, but um
because of the writer strike uh years
ago, season 2 got preemptively cut. So,
the the battle of the gullet in last
night's episode was supposed to be the
big culmination of what season 2 was
building towards. So, everybody said,
"Oh, season two left on such a flat note
with everybody getting ready for these
random battles." Well, it's because you
know that very often the big thing in
Thrones is the penultimate episode and
from what I understand the Gullet was
supposed to be the penultimate episode
of season 2. Um because it had to get
moved to the beginning of season 3. One
of the things that was that was an issue
for me in this episode was you had a
couple of scenes that really felt like
the writers reminding the audience who
the characters are and what they're
doing right now because it's been two
years.
>> So, we had certain scenes checking in
with characters to set the tone for the
season,
>> whereas I think the the best version of
this episode and the version that it was
originally intended to be was going to
surround the characters in the gullet
sequence more. we were going to get more
time with Jace and the other writers in
the battle. We were going to get a
little bit more time fleshing out who
the pieces on the board were going to
be. Because one thing we forget uh to
your point, by the way, about Thrones
being an ensemble show, whereas this uh
focuses on a smaller set of characters
is a lot of the most memorable episodes
of Game of Thrones have like at least
one main character just not in it. like
some of the best Thrones episode.
Daenerys isn't in. John isn't in.
>> Very few don't have Tyrion, but
>> Bran's not in a whole season.
>> Yeah, exactly. Well,
>> Bran's also the character who gives
George the hardest time writing. George
says that Bran is the hardest character
to write because of a lot of the magic
stuff, but um
>> Oh, yeah. I mean, with all the
three-eyed raven stuff where we won't go
too far into
>> Yeah. No, I can see where you're going.
Don't go down that rabbit hole, my
friend.
talk about 200 years from now for one
second. Um, the Game of Thrones books
take place very close to the conscious
of the characters. Every chapter is from
their point of view and it's not from
their first person point of view.
>> So,
>> it's third person limited.
>> Exactly. If Arya hears overhears Varys
having a conversation, the reader might
be able to put together that it's Varys,
but Arya doesn't know who he is, so
they'll just say the bald man. All this
is to say you need to write the magic
very indepth when you're writing Bran as
the three-eyed raven because you have
access to Bran's conscious and the
three-eyed raven is all about the
conscious mind being something that
could be expanded so far that it is just
incomprehensible and writing that is
pretty difficult. So George introduced a
lot of these magic elements in the first
book, A Game of Thrones. And then in A
Clash of Kings and Ator Storm of Swords,
you don't get that much of the magic
stuff. It's really about the War of the
Five Kings. And then by the end of Feast
for Crows and Dance for Dragons, we
reconciled with the fact that George now
has to answer certain questions about
magic that he was kind of avoiding for a
couple books. Um but uh all this is to
say uh the the reason we got onto this
tangent in the first place is um the
those bigger set pieces very often took
an entire episode. So some of the most
memorable Thrones episodes did not
feature some of the main characters. And
I do think the ideal version of this
Gullet episode spends very very little
time away from the characters in that
sequence and gives us a little bit more
time to get a sense of the physical
space in the sequence. I think the one
thing that was limited about the
cinematography of the Gullet sequence
was I didn't have that cohesive an idea
of whose ships belonged to whom, where
those ships were, and where they
physically are at this point. I know
>> the scale. Yeah, the scale and where
they were, you know. I think all it
needed was that classic Game of Thrones
map scene where they're they're laying
it out for us and saying, "Yep, we're
going to go here." I think that the the
pirates, the triarchy had that a little
bit where they were discussing their
strategy, but that vis that extra visual
aid
>> always. I'll throw out a visual aid that
would have helped me. Different colored
sales that would have helped. Like
literally, if you just had red and blue,
I like, "Oh, okay. I know who everybody
is." and it's stupid, but when you're
watching something, you do want to do
those quick visual cues for everybody
immediately. So, I don't know.
>> I thought the battle though was sold
more on the characters responses to it.
And naval battles are really tough
because they're huge. I mean, it's not
like in a a battle like Battle of the
Bastards where you can look at
characters faces and you understand
immediately from context. So, obviously
when Corass and Allen and all these
people are going, "Oh [ __ ] this is
bad." And then the pirates are happy.
You go, "Oh boy, this is bad for them."
And then the dragons show up and people
cheer. I I think it was really a battle
that was told through specific
characters and through what happened to
the dragons. To that point, Harriet, you
made a great observation in our Easter
egg video. So, in the book, it's very
different. In the book, Jace is joined
by the bastards on Dragon Back and by
Nettles, who people who haven't read the
book don't know what the hell a Nettles
is. So, I you pointed out this great
thing where Alice shows up and says to
the bastards, "You this, you shouldn't
be here. You should be at the battle." I
I do think that was an overt reference
to the fact they weren't. Maybe in Cam,
what Cam was talking about, they were
originally supposed to be in the final
episode, but maybe the money wasn't
there for all the dragons in this battle
of the gullet. I don't know. But what
what do we Yeah, go ahead, Harry. Tell
us about like the change from Nettles to
is it Raina, the one who takes the
dragon, and whether or not you think
that works. Um, I mean, I think I'm also
in the minority here in that I think I
am a big fan of most of the changes that
are being made from Fire and Blood. Um,
I think most notably when it comes to
like the characters of Reneer and
Allison, who are just like not nearly as
interesting in the book, I find um
>> well, they weren't friends. They don't
no one knows about their friendship or
talks about it.
>> And I I just find the way that their
motivations are written are a little bit
more um narrow. I mean, it makes sense
because the book is not like only about
these two characters. Like, it is a
larger history. It has a lot of people
to get through. Um, but I think um
I I don't think we needed to have the
dragon seeds at the battle of the
gullet. I think it's too many
characters. They don't really do
anything unique in the book uh during
that battle that would have I'm like,
"Oh, I really missed it when Hugh Hammer
probably uh lit some guys on fire." like
they didn't they didn't really do
anything specific, so I'm not mad they
weren't there. Um, and when it comes to
Nettles in general, uh, that was a
character that I was initially a bit sad
about, uh, the fact that they're
swapping her for Raina, but at the same
time, I think it makes a lot of sense.
Um, when it comes to like,
>> uh, giving Raina more to do for one
thing. I know I've seen people being
like sad about the fact that Raina's
character won't necessarily, and I'll be
vague, won't be going down the exact
same path
>> that she goes down in the book, but I
think when it comes to the scale of the
show,
>> yeah,
>> uh, and the years that the show is
likely to cover, I think this is going
to make Raina a much more important
character now. Um,
>> yeah. Well,
>> it also keeps the focus like the Fast
and Furious franchise on family just by
having her be in there instead of
Nettles, by the way, is a just a
different dragon seed who tame sheep
stealer by giving it sheep. And I think
Nettles actually is good at riding the
dragon, not like what we see.
>> There's also like popular fan theory uh
that Nettles is uh possibly Damon's
bastard daughter. Um
>> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. because she's from
the Riverlands sense enough that they're
just like, "Okay, so it's Raina who is
his daughter." So,
>> yeah, that makes sense. Which, by the
way, for anyone who is curious, this
potential bastard daughter, I don't
happen to believe that theory, but I'm
familiar with the theory, um, does have
a sexual relationship with Damon as
well, which is not uncharacteristic for
Damon.
>> But I imagine the writers of the show,
who seem a bit more sympathetic to
Damon, seem like bigger fans of Damon,
might not have wanted to have Damon do
something that predatory again. Um,
>> yeah, I mean, he marries his niece,
that's already pretty far bridge over
the river. Uh, so I happen to completely
agree that the dragon seeds were
unnecessary for the Battle of the
Gullet. I think it would have just made
it even more confusing. Um, because not
only do you now have to keep up with
which ships are which, now you have to
keep up with which dragons are which.
Um,
>> can I throw out there as somebody uh,
full disclosure has not read Fire and
Blood, so I'm definitely I've read the
rest of the books, but I'm coming into
this clean. I think my impression from
watching this episode is that if you had
the dragon seeds in the gullet, it would
have changed the course of the battle
potentially. It would sort of overwhelm
the amount of dragons that are there.
That's certainly what I took away from
it. Obviously, they're still like
figuring out how to use the dragons, so
that's certainly an issue. But that that
was my feeling just purely from watching
the show was they were kept off stage
because if they came in, it would have
been a very different battle than the
one they watched. Not to backseat,
right? But I do feel like there's a
version where they come in in that last
scene and are like, "Oh my god, what
actually happened here?" And we do get
that sort of little wrap up of their
tiny little story line throughout the
episode. Because right now, Alice
telling them, "You got to go to the
battle. You're missing this." And they
do in fact miss it is not a satisfying
resolution in this hour of television.
>> Sorry to interrupt.
>> Yeah, they really just have a couple of
scenes. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry, Kim.
Um, so look, there's going to be some
consolidations that have to be made and
it's going to make some people unhappy.
I'm unhappy at some of those
consolidations. But like I said, there's
just a lot of really, really difficult
things about this show because you have
to make a cohesive story about a history
book that covers years and years and
years at a time. And George just spams
Fire and Blood with characters. Every
page of Fire and Blood, there's nine new
characters. I I I had like a legal pad
tracking the characters I was reading,
especially during the reign of King
Jiharis, the old king, Jiharis the
consiliator.
>> Yeah. When he has like 13 kids and they
all have kids. Yeah.
>> Um but one of the things that was really
big as an omission and then
unfortunately I have to go because I
I've been working this entire time and
have been uh you know pretending to be
online at my job. But um one of the
things that was was a huge omission, and
this is a spoiler for the book, so
please excuse me if you were
>> I think we're okay with spoilers. Yeah.
>> Was um Reineer's sons were supposed to
be at this fight. In the book, her very
very young son who's a little bit I
think he's I think he's older in the
It's a rare case of a character being
older in the book than on the show.
Normally the characters get aged up on
the Game of Thrones shows because of all
the sex violence and all that. Um, but
in this case,
>> Reineer has a baby right now. It's easy
to forget that because of how many
things are going on, but Reineer's got
two babies. Um, Egon the third
>> with Damon. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Egon the third, whose very naming
of Agon was meant to be an insult to
Agon the
>> well, whatever you want to call him, you
know, Agon the true king or Agon the
>> Egon the second.
>> Agon the second or Egon the usurper,
whatever, whatever you want. Um she has
Egon's
around five or six four, five, six years
old in the book at this point and then
she's got um
>> a younger um I think Viseris II and they
are both being transported to Esos
>> during the Battle of the Gullet. And
this is a very important plot point
because that son of hers,
>> again, spoiler alert, is going to be one
of the more consequential characters in
the next 100 years of Westerosi history.
And
>> Viseris II gets kidnapped by the
Triarchy and is presumed dead.
>> And Agon barely escapes on a tiny dragon
and will forever for excuse me for a
very very long time be plagued with the
guilt of what happened with that. But
really of all of the things happening at
the Battle of the Gullet, the there
there big deal was of course what
happened with Jerus. Rest in peace. I
mean darkhaired Targaryenss can never
catch a break. Rest in peace, Jerus.
Rest in peace, Baylor.
>> John survived, but sure.
>> Well,
he had a hard time, too. It's not easy
to be charact.
>> He did die. He did die, actually. So,
yeah, you're right. No, they Yeah.
>> But I was just going to say the the the
really big development there was the
pieces that were put in place for what's
going to happen after the result of the
dance of the dragons. So that was cut
>> and that is a huge cut and I imagine
George was very unhappy about that. And
there's some things that make George
very upset where I'm like yeah George
look what they did to your baby. You
should be furious. And there's some
things where I'm like George what did
you want them to do? [laughter] Like
there's just certain story like George
>> when they cut like one of Helena's kids
and he threw a hissy fit on social and
then later deleted it. Right. And and
and look, I'm very sympathetic to
George, all right? But sometimes it's
like,
>> we love George. George is great.
>> The thing that that we're the thing
that's annoying to me is I'm like,
George, you've seen this on Game of
Thrones before. Like, you understand
that there's
>> uh that you have to sacrifice certain
things when you're adapting something
from page to screen. You understand that
you have an unlimited budget for set
pieces on the page, and that's not the
case on screen.
>> But I digress. I love House the Dragon.
I love George. There's a lot of stuff I
don't love, but I'm lucky to be here
with you guys talking about it. I have
to go do my job. Thank you all.
>> Cam, you're fired.
>> Oh, yeah. As always, nice meeting you
guys, by the way.
>> Miss you. And that was Cameron Casky,
ladies and gentlemen, laying down brutal
truth about the hot D. Um,
>> can I just say my big my big takeaway
from that is I feel like we were robbed
seeing a baby on a tidy little dragon.
Apparently that's in the books and we
should have seen him flying around to
the battle of that would have been
>> he's not a baby but he is Cameron's
right like he does become and there's a
partic
>> there is a particular thing about him
the dying of the dragons that's really
important. Um
>> I disagree though. I don't think it's
necessarily vital to that part of the
whole story though. Go ahead Harriet. I
will say I mentioned this in our Easter
egg video, but I feel pretty I think
it's pretty likely that these are that
the events of those two kids from the
battle of the gullet in the book will be
adapted in some other way later in the
season. I think it's possible that they
just didn't want to draw focus away from
the battle. Um,
>> yes, I think you're right. I'm
remembering. Yes, I think you're right.
>> So, like we'll see. I I might be wrong
about that, but uh that's what I think
is that they're probably separating
those two events to make them more
easily understood.
>> Alex, you are probably feeling like I do
when I hear two soccer fans talk about
World Cup [laughter] stuff.
>> Like we're here like
and then he's got a you know a good
friend.
>> I mean listen, I've watched every
episode of these shows multiple times.
All of them. I've read the Song of Ice
and Fire books, the Duncan Egg Nollas,
Fire and Blood for some reason, and now
I know after taping this that I got to
go read it because I'm missing out. But
to me, I was like,
>> it it is such a fun read and you
really good. Yeah,
>> because when I heard about it, I was
like, I don't want to read an appendix.
What are we doing? It's like reading
this mystery that's being told by really
gossipy like people who [laughter] are
like and I heard like
>> and it's like it's like if the
smearillion was intended for people to
read you know what I mean like if it was
actually [laughter] like
>> that's my problem is I tried reading the
simmerelion and I was like my eyes
started oh god no it's impossible and I
felt like
>> what a lot of people don't realize no
one's actually read the simmerelion
everybody just says they had
>> even Peter Jackson you ask him about it
he can't provide details that's the No,
he lies. You can tell. It's in his eyes.
You can tell. You can [laughter] tell
when a kiwi lies to your face.
>> I've never been afraid to look away from
a man's gaze. It's natural. [laughter]
>> I was definitely like there were bits of
fire and blood. I was like, "Okay, I'll
go to bed after just like one more one
more dynasty." Like, [laughter]
>> and it's so easy. But I'll tell you my
favorite thing about Fire and Blood. And
like I think, you know, they're making
an Aegon Conqueror movie. I I think
that's the first movie. I think the
second movie is about his kids. And then
I I think they're going to do that. Like
I don't think that his conquest can
support more than one movie. My favorite
part of the book is just when things run
really well when old King Jiharis takes
over the kingdom and builds roads and
institutes reforms. I'm like I'm like
can't you know I get I'm into politics
and Sim City and that was my two
favorite things is like reading all this
stuff. I loved it. But let me ask you
this. So we got an interesting question
here on a super chat from Arman the
regular contributor. Gave us five
pounds. Thank you so much. I really
think he says or they say this should
have been an animated series. Maybe I'm
crazy for that. An animated series in
this world could be so fun. I don't know
about this story, but I'm with you on
the animated series thing. That would be
kind of cool. I wonder if there's side
stories even from the original show they
could go into animated. Yeah, I don't
think they would ever do this for not
even like almost reverse budgetary
reasons because they do want to I think
there's a certain level of marketing
where they're like, "Yeah, we spent $20
million on this amazing looking TV show,
so tune into it." But that's a great way
of continuing stuff past Game of
Thrones. Like, as much as I'd like to
see the liveaction Jon Snow show or the
live action definitely the live action
Arya show.
>> Yeah. just do Arya in animation like an
adult animated series like the like
Castlevania or Devil May Cry or anything
like that. That would be rad.
>> Or like in the style of Arcane that
painted style.
>> Oh yeah,
>> that would be great, too.
>> And Harry, there's already I mean if
Yeah, go ahead.
>> Oh, sorry. What were you going to say?
The the histories and lore things.
>> Yeah.
>> Um yeah, I mean the histories and lore
like uh and conquests and rebellions
like little animated things are really
awesome. Uh definitely really useful for
B-roll when we're cutting videos. Um but
uh I think yeah, I would love to see I
don't think that this needs to be
animation by any means. I think the
performances are some of my favorite
parts of it. And obviously voice acting
is an art in and of itself, but I mean
the
>> like facial performances of these actors
are so integral to what I love about
this show. Like I can't imagine Allison
not being Olivia Cook's face. Um,
>> right. Right.
>> But, uh, I think like I would love to
see like an animated like series or
movie about like the uh how Daenerys's
eggs like ended up on the other side of
the Narrow Sea. I think that's a really
fascinating part of Fire and Blood. So,
I would love to see that.
>> Um,
>> well, you know what what else would be
interesting too is um they they did try
to develop a couple of Game of Thrones
pilots that no one will ever see. One is
about the age of heroes and the long
night which apparently is unwatchable.
And gosh, somebody famous is in that
too. I can't remember. It's not Holly
Hunter. That would be funny to see in
the Game of Thrones universe, but it's
Patricia Arquette I think is in it.
[clears throat and snorts]
>> Um, and then they apparently scrapped a
Valyria one, like an old Valyria in the
style of like the sci-fi show Krypton or
Capria that takes place like during
that. I think Valyria is a place that
would be so beautiful
>> that it should be animated like in the
style of arcane like this painted kind
of like very expensive lush where like
we shouldn't be able to imagine like
Drogon should be the last creature that
sees old Valyria you know what I mean
and you can kind of maintain the myth
that way and then actually Alex oh go
ahead I got a
>> I was just going to throw off uh throw
out based on what you're saying what
would be in my opinion really cool is
like a tales of Westeros type story
where you
>> I thought they would do that.
>> Take those pilots that you're talking
about, animate them, and have them as be
like, well, maybe this happened, maybe
this didn't. We're telling this tale to
you, and so you get to see those things.
They already have a couple of scripts
there that they could tweak and change a
little bit. Do them each uh Star Wars
vision style in different animated
styles or something like that. It would
be really cool.
>> And the big event they will never do
live action is Robert's Rebellion. And
there's you could even go back with that
and do um like the tournament where
there was a knight in disguise who I
think was probably Rhaegar and or no
when Rhaegar took the favor of Lyanna
and like there's all like all these
little things that built up to the
rebellion. I think it would be fun to
see those nuances. So, and yeah, I
thought they would do an anthology show
a long time ago. I thought that would be
the show after Game of Thrones. Mhm.
>> Um, and then Dave M gave us five bucks
and said, "If you're having difficulty
identifying the sales, then showed then
so did sheep stealer, the feral
bastard." The feral bastard dragon.
[laughter]
I So, Harriet, we were talking about the
show earlier. I love that they added
this, you know, because originally it's
nettles and, you know, Jace does die at
the battle, but this idea of making it
so personal and that Sheepsteeler isn't
just feral, but you know, dragons
attached to the emotions of their rider
and she's [ __ ] terrified and that is,
you know, she won't he won't obey her
because her fear is being transferred to
him and he's lashing out at everybody. I
personally thought that change worked
beautifully for the show. What what were
your thoughts on Sheepsteeler?
>> Um, I mean, I love like the design of
Sheepsteeler. I think
>> uh as as I said again in the video, I
think uh it's really interesting that
we've seen like dragons disobey their
writers so many times in this show
because that's not something that is
ever
>> it's always the kids. It never has come
up in the uh in the book. I mean, it's
partially we're hearing a history told
many many years later. So, it's very
possible that uh something like that did
happen, but we've never heard about it.
And I think it makes the dragons
themselves more interesting. It's like
it's not a you know, the dragons are
obviously a lot of the times a metaphor
for nuclear warfare. Uh but I think in
that case it's like um but what if the
warhead had a mind of its own also? Uh
which is
>> a little scary.
>> Yeah. I mean it is basically when a
machine when a weapon comes to life, you
know, and has consciousness. Yeah.
>> You know what it makes me think of,
Harriet? You know the line I think you
it was in our Easter egg video which is
out now. Um you you go back and quote or
maybe it was in our dragon video that
came out before that where Tyrion says
dragons are intelligent accord more
intelligent than men according to some
maesters, right? And they have this
knowledge and I maintain that the
existence of dragons and the reason the
Targaryenss are even able to use them is
because of deep magic tied to the Lord
of Light and the Long Night and stuff
like that. Um, but it makes me think
about Drogon melting the iron throne and
how people really pissed on that idea
like, "Oh, is he understand symbolism?"
Yes, I think he understood symbolism. I
think he knew through telepathic
connection that this throne is what he
was helping Daenerys achieve and that
when he melted it, he 100% knew what he
was doing when he did it. And I think
this show is continuing to support that
by showing their independence.
Yeah, maybe. I I uh I find it hard to
come down at all on the side of like
maybe Game of Thrones season 8 isn't
actually that bad. [laughter] But um
>> I think it's a logistical challenge and
they ran out of time and the thing it's
got it's got it.
>> You're suggesting what you're suggesting
is we need a look who's talking season
where we hear the dragon's thoughts
[laughter] and they're like, "Oh boy,
get what this guy's doing." That's my
dragon voice. I don't know.
>> Yeah. Only if they all talk like that.
That's the only way out. Yeah. Yeah.
[laughter]
>> I got to send a really quick message
here. So, final thoughts. We're about to
sign off. Um, Alex,
out of 10, how many stars do you give
this?
>> Oh gosh, I didn't know we were doing
that. I I'm going to give this episode a
six. And I only say that as like I love
the show and I love these shows and
they're really high quality, so I'm
going to grade it on a harsher scale.
Six isn't even necessarily that bad, but
I feel bad giving it. It's just this was
not my favorite episode despite some big
standout moments throughout. Uh having
seen a little bit ahead without getting
into spoilers. Uh it gets better in my
opinion. Like exponentially better. Um
>> you kids you kids ain't ready for
Tumbleton. I'll tell you that. I don't
know if it's this season or not, but
that's a dinger. Har.
>> So yeah.
>> Uh I think for me I'd probably give it
like a 8.5. Um I I agree. It's not like
the best episode of the show or
anything, but I'm just so happy House of
the Dragon is back. [laughter]
>> I think I, you know, my my points on
this are pretty nitpicky as far as like,
you know, why are the the bastard
dialogue is kind of heavy-handed.
There's no subtlety to it. It's like I
want a castle, you know, and they're
kind of laying he's the gruff one, and I
would have liked to have seen a bit more
shades there. But the scale of the
battle of the gauntlet, and it makes
sense what Cam said about it originally
ending the last season, but the scale of
that battle and I just think the
addition of Raina riding Sheepsteeler
and being such a [ __ ] and Jace being
so dumb and all of these characters uh
running into battle with glory on their
mind and obsessing over something uh
like what is her name again? I'm sorry,
Harriet. The the pirate queen.
>> Lowhar.
>> Lowhar. Lowhar is the other great
example of that. So there's a uniting
theme in there. But I agree, we've had
the triarchy for three seasons. It would
have been nice if they were adapting
source material to put Lowhar in much
earlier or, you know, you use the crab
feeder or whoever else like from those
stories so it feels a little bit more
united. But no, I I'd probably give it
seven, seven and a half or eight because
um I don't want this scale every time,
but it was sure was a big ass giant fun
to watch battle. Uh we've got another
super chat here that I think we're going
to sign off from Johnny Mashed potatoes.
who gave us $2 and said, "Is Jared Leto
to blame for the doom of Valyria?"
[laughter] I can't blame You can't blame
Masters of the Universe on Jar I'll
blame anything on Jared Leto, but
Masters of the Universe was not his
fault. He was one of the best parts of
it.
>> I don't know. I could definitely picture
Skeletor wandering around the burnt out
remains of Valyria. Like, that's that
picture is so clear. So, I don't want to
rule it out is the thing.
>> Or a side with Shadowlands. All right,
we're going to have to sign off there.
Oh [ __ ] Alex, are you still on hold?
Are you good?
>> Uh, yeah. Oh, no. Actually, um, my mom's
here. Hello, mommy.
>> Give her a kiss for me, will you? All
right, we'll talk to you later. Just a
sec.
>> We didn't even get into how gross that
was and how it was set up for so long.
And that's all we got to say. That's
that's We'll leave it there. Uh, thanks,
Harriet. And you can find Harriet here
on the channel. Alex is still here, by
the way. Alex, I had to cut him off for
the bit. Alex, you can find on the Comic
Book Club podcast. Link for that is down
below. Thanks so much, Alex.
>> Thank you.
>> And Harriet's on the channel here all
the time writing stuff. Her Game of
Thrones costume video is going to come
out later. It's It's great. It's one of
my favorite videos we've ever done. It's
so well researched and so well done. So
Harriet, thank you so much.
>> Thank you.
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