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title: 'LIVE: Blizzard and Midnight Just Changed Forever - Comeback City Show'
source: 'https://youtube.com/watch?v=BXIrgXbDEnA'
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date: 2026-08-09
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# LIVE: Blizzard and Midnight Just Changed Forever - Comeback City Show

> Source: [LIVE: Blizzard and Midnight Just Changed Forever - Comeback City Show](https://youtube.com/watch?v=BXIrgXbDEnA)

## Summary

The Comeback City Show, hosted by Lance and co-host N Z, is a live World of Warcraft community stream covering the latest news, raid reactions, and community discussions. This episode focuses on the Midnight expansion's new patch 12.0.5, the record-breaking Mythic Plus participation, and a detailed reaction to the new raid cinematic featuring Sylvanas and the Shadowlands.

### Key Points

- **Show Opening and Community Engagement** [01:33] — The hosts welcome viewers to The Comeback City, a World of Warcraft community show, and engage with chat members, setting a positive tone for the episode.
- **Positive Outlook on Midnight** [04:11] — The co-host expresses that this is the happiest he has been with World of Warcraft in a long time, citing good news from the upcoming patch 12.0.5.
- **Raid Progress and Plans** [05:17] — The guild has fully cleared the normal Void Spire raid and plans to tackle the March of the Warden raid on Saturday, with heroic and mythic attempts.
- **Xbox and Fanta Collaboration** [06:44] — A new collaboration between World of Warcraft and Fanta is announced, featuring a glider mount called 'The Fantastic' and sparking discussion about the increasing commercialization of the game.
- **Transmog Updates in 12.0.5** [07:55] — Patch 12.0.5 introduces new transmog options for one-handed weapons, allowing them to be displayed on the back, hip, or hidden entirely.
- **WoW's Cultural Resurgence** [09:30] — The hosts discuss the recent collaborations (Pringles, Discord, Twitch drops, Fanta) as signs that WoW is re-entering the cultural zeitgeist, though they debate the level of commercialization.
- **Rogue Class Concerns** [12:50] — The hosts critique the current state of the Rogue class, noting that Assassination spec underperforms in single-target damage and that the class overall feels weak in the current meta.
- **Old Gods vs. Cosmic Void Aesthetic** [15:10] — A discussion on the preference between the classic Old Gods horror vibe and the retail cosmic void aesthetic, with the hosts agreeing that the current void lacks the eerie, scary feeling of the Old Gods.
- **Fused Vitality Purchase Option** [18:30] — In patch 12.0.5, players can buy fused vitality, the currency for epic crafting materials, from the diving event vendor at a cheap price, making it easier to obtain.
- **Add-on Pruning Debate** [19:10] — The hosts discuss the ongoing add-on situation, noting that despite promises of pruning, weak auras are still heavily used in raids and Mythic Plus, leading to calls for either full removal or full acceptance.
- **Raid Cinematic Reaction** [24:46] — The hosts react to the new raid cinematic, which features Sylvanas and hints at the Shadowlands not being what they seem, sparking theories about the true nature of death in WoW.
- **Record-Breaking Mythic Plus Participation** [38:48] — Over 5.1 million Mythic Plus keys were run in a single week, the highest in WoW history, indicating a strong player base and the popularity of the current season.
- **Casual Player Experience** [44:54] — The hosts debate whether Midnight is better for casual players, with one arguing the floor is higher due to easier gearing options like delves and bountiful delves, while another feels pressured to run 10s.
- **Forum Freakouts Segment** [47:35] — The hosts read and react to community forum posts, including a player lamenting the game's changes and another complaining about the lack of in-game communication, leading to discussions about community and game evolution.
- **Mythic Plus Difficulty Debate** [01:18:21] — The hosts discuss the perception that Mythic Plus is easier this season, citing statistics like Keystone Master being under 1% of accounts, and argue that accessibility is good for the game.
- **Game Health and Accessibility** [01:27:27] — The hosts conclude that making content more accessible to all players is key to WoW's health, emphasizing that the top 1% don't represent the majority and that casual players are the game's backbone.

## Transcript

If we aren't back for another episode of The Comeback City, the best, the most explosive with the coolest host in all of World of with the coolest host in all of World of Warcraft on a Wednesday night live 8:15
Eastern Standard Time. It actually is 8:15 still. Don't let them lie to you. Welcome back to The Comeback City, everyone. I am your host Lance, joined by the one, the only, the most handsome co-host in all of Azeroth, the N Z
>> Welcome, buddy. >> and gentlemen, dude. If you guys are here, if you're a comeback kid member, if you're a World
of Warcraft player, if you're an Azeroth liver, okay, okay. Let's get some ones liver, okay, okay. Let's get some ones in the chat, baby.
in the chat, baby. >> Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a lot to talk about today, a lot to go through. Some would say we got a lot to discuss. >> Oh.
gentlemen. We're here, we're bright and early. We got some ones in the chat, big will clappers in the chat, mega programmer port, decisive Scott. >> Last Paragon. That's my note for you today.
>> I wish I could say that on stream. >> Ones dead, Mr. Wang, Mary McKinnon, welcome back Mary Pacca, Juan Epstein, E Marks, what's going on? Trojan freaking Marks, what's going on? Trojan freaking Ragnar. Wow, we got ourselves a packed
By the way, if you guys are in the guild, if you're in the comeback city live and the show is ready to get kicked off. We're ready to go, ladies and gentlemen. We got a slam packed house. We got a big old episode awaiting us. A
what's going on this week, some drama, some good stuff, some interesting topics. We also got a ton of form freak outs. >> Uh we are also going to be live uh talking and sort of reacting to the raid
cinematic as well. Want to talk about that. I haven't really seen it yet. I've don't really know what's going on yet. No spoilers, but we're all going to go through it together as a community, as a guild. Check it out. Vibe out and and
baby? We feeling good? I'm going to be honest with you. Um >> I feel really good. I feel really positive about the and um >> I'm not letting anything affect me. I feel really positive. I think this is
the the happiest I've been with WoW since >> Okay. >> So, having a lot of fun, man. doing? What's the drama? Oh, I can't tell you.
>> Reem Prime, what's going on, baby? How we doing? How we doing? um all in all, I would say yeah, World of now. A lot of good news coming out of the new patch coming, which
guys know. >> Uh-huh. >> 0.5 come comes out technically later this month in April, like the end of the >> I don't know if you know that. >> I mean, it hasn't officially been
>> But yeah, it's >> going off the 8-week cadence. >> Yeah, it's set to release at near the end point of the month. Um just when you think you you might not have anything to do or there might not
be any content or you're getting propped you're getting new stuff. Propped up. you're getting new stuff. Propped up. So, can I get some 12.0.5 hypes in the chat? >> 0.5 hype
>> 0.5 hype awesome. So, also this week we also full cleared normal raid. That was really >> Nice. >> Uh who here has fully cleared the raid?
>> Uh who here has fully cleared the raid? Uh the Void Spire raid. Void Spire and we are going to be doing our raid Saturday. Uh going to be attacking with full force, full momentum.
>> Into the March of the Warden. >> Some say we're going to be marching on doing it. It's going to be It's going to be absolutely awesome. Uh full normal What a chad. Not I. I have a little bit of an idea
Yeah, we're going to be checking it out together. Mate, what's going on, baby? What's going on? How we doing? How we doing? Um let me let me start prepping this uh the start of this weekly. I have not done any part of the raid yet. Well,
>> What once said, it's a long season. You got time. We'll get you in some of these raids. >> Void Spire in heroic. Yeah, two bosses in mythic. Guild at four plus Chimaeros. And we did the new raid in heroic today,
>> Okay, so let's check this out. >> Um so, we have some things to go over here. Whoopsie. Sorry, that is the wrong one. Um couple things to go over here. Um so, there was a brand new little collaboration.
>> X-Xbox and Fanta. >> Fanta? Little collab. >> Don't you want a Fanta? >> Don't you want a Fanta Fanta? Don't you want a Fanta Fanta? Oh, [ __ ]
>> Fanta [ __ ] Fanta [ __ ] Fanta Fanta [ __ ] you Fanta Fanta [ __ ] you. All right, seconds without having a [ __ ] aneurysm. So, World of Warcraft Fanta uh sort of promotion, uh you get this sort of like
you know, glider sort of looking mount that's called the >> Yeah, we've had a couple of these on the trading post. >> And then in particular, um I think it's called the fantastic something. All
>> The fan- tastic. crazy. Master Blaster, what's going on? >> what's up? Master Blaster, what? >> crazy. I actually did not know that. All jokes aside, wow, that's pretty wild. Uh
imagine, right? No purchase necessary. Is that true? Is that Do you get no purchase necessary for that? That'd be kind of cool. Also, in patch 12.0.5, later down the line, is I don't know if you saw this, Lance. Oh, I did. Uh you
have some brand new transmog options for swords, or not swords, one-handers, and you can transmog on your back now whenever you want. It could be on your be on your hip, it could be not shown at all uh when it comes to one-handed
all uh when it comes to one-handed weapons entirely. So, uh really, really we'll be going over that a little bit more extra. And then, uh once again, you little bit of a Fanta collaboration here. A little odd that they gave
purple. I felt like that was such an underhand pitch. Like I don't know why I thought that World of Warcraft was getting the pineapple one. All right. And now it kind of ruined my day because that's my favorite.
You're getting the Halo. I don't want Halo. Diablo's getting I don't even know what is that, cherry? I Is that apple Fanta? What Fanta flavor I haven't drink drank Fanta want a
pineapple Fanta. 25 years. Can't do this. Does anyone actually drink Fanta in the chat? Is there anyone here who actively drinks Fanta when you go out? a Fanta a week, keeps the doctor away. Time to message
the guildies. Come hang out, guys. Man, I'm very upset that we're not getting the the pineapple Fanta. you. Begging now. There, that was me begging in guild chat. Uh sometimes I love it. Me, no.
Yeah. I don't know. Uh anyways, so, you know, I also wanted to talk about the amount of collaborations going on with World of Warcraft lately and sort of limited items and that whole situation going on
You got things like the Pringles, you got the Discord situation, Twitch drops, got the Discord situation, Twitch drops, Fanta. But, I think that's cool. Okay, I think that kind of means that in some capacity
Wow is kind of getting back into like the culture cultural zeitgeist a little bit, right? Like people are starting to Wow again. >> Yeah, listen I I think I think putting
Wow in the mainstream media is cool. But at one point is it like overly commercialized? Like It's a right it's a bit much. Like every 2 seconds is a brand new limited time Wow promotion.
I hope they did a new one every week and I'll buy it all. >> A new one based on Magnums. >> I'll [ __ ] take that, yeah. >> New one based off sugar cookies. >> Do that too. I'm sure I I bought the
cast iron pan. I bought it. >> All right, we know what side he's playing on guys. I got to I got to get out of here. That's unbelievable.
>> baby. >> I was leading into this. Now I think Ladies and gentlemen, this is absolutely fried. What are we actually doing here right now? I love World of Warcraft.
>> If you're not buying the pan I needed a new pan anyway. I might as well get the World of Warcraft pan. Enzo, what up buddy?
>> It's peak adulthood. You guys All right, in the chat right now ones if you would buy the pan, twos if you're not buying the pan. Go. Ones or twos in the chat >> Uh I don't >> Go go go in the chat.
It hasn't come in yet. second, I think I'm wrong. >> Bro, it's only been a couple twos. Yo guys, that's a lot of ones. I need a new CAST IRON, MAN.
Like you're going to make me feel bad for wanting a new cast iron. I might as well get the World of Warcraft cast iron. them on the head, they're going to have a big W on their head and they'll know
who the hell whooped some ass. This guy. I'll be sure to season it. Yo, by the way, true. Trust me, I know all about knowing how to season my pants. So, all jokes aside, actually I'll leave that to
my wife I'm lying. You buy the You buy the pan and you get one of the the pets since Mists of Pandaria, this little fiery cat. you know, Razer, what up? At one point I'm on the
Razer, what up? At one point I'm on the track. Arby with the $1 is a Super Chat. You are allowed to say something if you want, maybe ask to read a question or whatever, you know, just feel bad. But thank you for the dollar
nonetheless. Appreciate it, buddy. Um, wow, okay. I got to say. But something else I wanted to discuss and we'll get into as we go through some Um, when it comes to weak auras and the
funny. Hold on. Rogue players logging in to play Wait, wait, wait, ready? No, stop. Wait, wait, wait, here it is. wait, wait, here it is. Ready?
is tough, bro. It's tough. Utility [ __ ] Yo, they but they were bringing a rogue to Beloran. Utility [ __ ]
Mid. If you're Outlaw, RNG to the moon. If you're a Sass, single target damage in the gutter. If you're Sub Rogue, rotation who butts.
It is not looking good, ladies and gentlemen, if you are a rogue player in gentlemen, if you are a rogue player in World of Warcraft. Oh, that is How did you have a spec that's called assassination not do good single target
assassinating? These [ __ ] nuts. Like, what's going on? How does the assassin and not do good damage single target? That's what they should be good at. Yo, change the tuning knobs. Lower the
AoE. Buff them single target. >> They're not The thing is is even in AoE, >> Crimson Tempest, because they reworked it, it only spreads their bleeds. I time. So, you have to spam Crimson
Tempest eight, nine times in a big AoE pack. But, still your damage is like not good. So, what are we doing? Like, Sub Rogue has uncapped AoE now with every with pretty much everything in their kit.
>> I'm going to go. >> So, literally you're just Shuriken Storm Powder? Black One of those, I don't know. By that logic, Bound Druid should never be OP, balanced at all times. I mean
>> It's just it's funny. >> Yo. By the way, really quick, Lance. Which one of these do you prefer? The Old Gods and sort of void from classic World of Warcraft feeling, or do you like the retail vibe where it's like
you know, N'Zoth is >> Cosmic. >> cosmic sort of feel. I think they're like two sides of a ways, right? Cuz the old gods are cosmic in a way. It
just different types of void. >> Different vibe, right? I'm going to be honest. I like the cosmic. >> If If you're asking me personally, >> I like the old gods vibe. >> Like if in terms of if I'm going to raid
>> Well, I like both. I think that's cooler. I like both. >> What do you guys think is cooler? You have option one You have option one with the old god feel and then option two, which is like the void cosmic blue dark
purple, you know, midnight you know, retail World of Warcraft option. What do you guys like better? One or two? >> The The old gods are scarier. Right? Like you remember being in or whenever you go to run AQ C'thun like
whispering love it and saying [ __ ] and it's just like gives this eerie feel. >> I remember I remember the first time I went through Ahn'Qiraj and I I had the sound effects and music like as high as I can.
And I actually unironically muted my raid leader shot caller. I was a and a Sulfuras. The whole night 2 300 DPS the entire The whole night 2 300 DPS the entire time. Um but I'm hearing the old gods
and and C'thun specifically in my ears. Super super creepy. Super thematic. Very very good. change just joined? Uh we're going to go through that in just a minute. Right now
we're just going through some basic news. Uh just chilling out right now. option two. >> But I think it's different. It doesn't mean the old gods are done. Right? But we are fighting a new threat.
1.5 where it's like a little bit in in between. both. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I do think one thing that they are
failing with to do with the void is I'm not scared of it at all. we should totally do that. Can someone send me the link to that, please? >> Exonic? How we doing, glockin? Um I do wish that this current,
you know, cosmic void feel had a little bit more of an eerie, scary type of situation going on. There's really none of that. >> Yeah, I agree. >> And I get for me, it gives me
fell like Legion vibes, but blue now. I don't know, bro. >> I could agree. scary. It should be scary. Like the void
actually like the domino. I think they're cool. I feel like their models should be scarier looking. you what, like the void creatures that were falling out of the sky,
Yeah. Like in the scenario. >> walkers from the Yeah. Yeah. >> Like the whole time. >> I agree. >> Uh little upset about that.
it is what it is. I think you're right, there's a place for both. Uh but either it's pretty good. Uh something else that was interesting, Lance. Uh over in patch 12.0.5, you can actually buy the fused vitality, um
which is the currency used to craft your epic crafting materials, um from the diver, uh you know, event guy, cuz you know, the diving situation that's coming in. Um and they're actually pretty cheap. So, you can buy some of these uh
um for three of them, I believe. And I think Mr. GM said 750 is very easy to earn. You get over 600 from a single dive without much effort at all. So,
who knows how long that could be, uh but >> I'd be interested I want to see all of the rewards you get from that. >> Yeah. Um one of the more interesting topics that I did want to get through, um today, was actually the whole add-on
situation. Now, heading in the into midnight, guys, I think Thank you for Right, Straley? >> Oh, this is from a guy named Zoltan. >> Zoltan. Yeah. Um so, my point is is
we know there were supposed to be a major add-on pruning, uh but right now major add-on pruning, uh but right now in these raids and race to world first, in these raids and race to world first, we have these add-ons here being used
So, it's weak auras sneakily. prime, baby. Appreciate the love. Yo, guys, if you guys want to show some love for absolutely free over on the Twitch, throw some primes absolutely for free.
You don't have to spend a dollar. >> Matty Joe. Zoltan. Matty Joe. You loved? Guys, get on over to the Twitch. Primes
guys don't have to spend any money. Um Matt, shout out to you. Love you so Um Matt, shout out to you. Love you so much. Miss you. Um but yeah, so you have weak auras right now. Um Lance, what are we doing here? Why is this
allowed in the game? >> They have um they've given in for this season where they were like, "Listen, we didn't get to." And they kind of just opened the
floodgates. I mean, look, even the the UI of that is >> It's literally weak auras. >> weak auras, yeah. miss about weak auras, too. I want to
track my trinket procs. There's certain passives that I can't track. Like, I passives that I can't track. Like, I know that and I get that. But, >> Brother, I don't know. I don't understand.
Thank you so much, buddy. Appreciate the >> I have literally gone this entire I have not downloaded any add-ons like combat-wise for midnight. I'm completely just full natty, bro. It just doesn't Yeah, how many of you guys
are using like a crazy amount of add-ons and how many of you guys are like not really using that many? I'm going to be honest, I I for PvP I'm I'm not going to lie. >> you you bastard.
I'm not even going to lie to you right now cuz there's a lot of things I need to track properly. My plates, I need to get them a certain way. My crowd control kicking. Thank you for the prime, Signarius. Thank you. Thank you. I
appreciate it. By the way, guys, I think we're at four out of 10 or no, we're Twitch. You guys want to help us out support the goal. yeah. So, I would say for PvP I still use a decent
amount of add-ons. PvE not so much. Not so much really at all. I just pretty much use Plate Namer. I use the in-game damage meter. Uh that's about it. So, PvP is still tough
because you I like I'm sorry if it's available, I need the edge. I'm going to go get the edge on it and that just is what it is. Sorry. Um got to have them you. So, right. Terror, thank you so much for the prime. Appreciate the love.
>> Well, turns out you're a rat. >> In PvP I am a rat. I will do anything to get a like the the leg up. Yes. >> Get a little leg up. Yep. A leg up on >> leggy. Um but anyways, uh yeah, I thought that
was very interesting as well. Like I feel like we're like we're either either get rid of the add-ons completely top to bottom. I don't give a [ __ ] if it's your your point one percent like race to world first players or not. Like either
get rid of them or don't. Yeah. Like what Sneak Aura's is >> been hearing a lot of people uh other creators say that they think they're creators say that they think they're going balls to the wall is the quote um
be gone. >> Yeah, sounds good. It'll be like feet to >> Great time soon. Thanks for the invite. It wasn't me, but welcome. We have a lot of people doing invites and I'm really glad he to have you here, Michael. Uh
Platt says, "Woah, that Taro That's Taro Keen. I'm a huge fan of that guy." >> Taro Keen was also a rap bastard. >> That is crazy. Um as much credit as I'm seeing people Oh, no, that's uh
the else. Uh then also some interesting uh trading post rewards. Check that bad >> I have that. >> Oh, bike right there. Um But yeah, I think I think that's about
it from waiters of >> Yeah, I got me that one and I got the void one from the visions, but you know
>> That's crazy. Okay. So ladies and gentlemen, we have not seen this trailer yet. >> Wait, wait, wait, before you play it. thing. >> Listen, guys,
you don't want to get spoiled on this trailer. Leave the stream for >> And come on back. >> Um So yes. So guys, we're about to react to
for the raid right now. Let's go ahead, check it out. Grab your popcorn. Let's check it out. Grab your popcorn. Let's lock in.
>> You Windrunners, you just don't know when to lay down and you just don't know when to lay down and die.
are just stubborn that way. >> You. >> You. I honestly didn't factor for you.
Zul'jin. Even your wretched kind.
What does she want? Right?
the Maw. >> There are ways, nephew. But, they do take their toll. you told me that Silvermoon was in peril.
That it it needed its Ranger-General one last time. >> Sylvanas, then maybe there's a way back for you.
a way back for you. Back to us. my true work, has only begun, little sister. The Shadowlands are not at all what they seem.
seem. I cannot rest until I've uncovered the truth. Still, I Still, I hope to see you both again
before the end begins. >> There's a lot to break down here. something that doesn't mean something way deeper.
Every single time. First of all, first and foremost, definitely was not expecting Sylvanas to come out here. Um I guess that's why everyone was making the Shadowlands meme jokes over
Um >> was in peril. That's it needed its ranger general one last time. >> Sylvanas,
if the Maw cannot hold you, then maybe there's a way back for you. Back to us.
my true work, has only begun, little sister. The Shadowlands are not at all what they seem. I cannot rest until I've uncovered the truth.
>> The Shadowlands? >> The Shadowlands >> are not at all what they seem. >> are not at all what they seem.
>> I cannot >> cannot rest until I've uncovered the truth. Mhm. I don't think um the Shadowlands are naturally what death is supposed to be
in World of Warcraft. >> until >> in this universe. Mhm. Very interesting. I think Progen just said Shadowlands some kind of Titan secret. Well,
depends cuz you know, the Titans could be like the first ones, right? But, um Yeah, that makes sense. It it Like Shadowlands are too perfect. It doesn't
make sense for that to be the real end. I need Pyromancer. Go ahead. Where are you, Pyromancer? Where are you, Pyromancer? Or he did a react to it.
But, they've been setting that up since Dragonflight. If not longer. >> When to lay down and die.
LET'S [ __ ] GO. LET'S [ __ ] go. >> Yo, ain't no one a bigger wild fan than Pyromancer. But, like the best fan on the planet,
But, like the best fan on the planet, bro. but I think that she her soul got destroyed. destroyed. And got disenchanted.
wonder? Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Death in the void, baby. Oh my god. Death in the void, baby. The true enemy.
>> Godless. It needed Sylvanas back for you. sister. The Shadowlands are not at all what they
>> Mhm. >> I cannot rest until I've uncovered the >> Mhm. >> Still, I hope to see you both again before the end begins.
before the end begins. >> More foreshadowing of that end to come. Oh, man. Oh, man. >> We won. >> LET'S GO! >> WHAT WAS WROUGHT here cannot simply be
>> Shadowlands are a machine. >> I bro, who [ __ ] knows now? I retconning the like the whole thing then? Like what I don't understand. What
Are we changing what it is? Are we >> No. And people keep saying that. That's >> Then what the hell's happening? >> It's about you know, every people keep saying that. It's people who don't know anything of what the Shadowlands was.
what? >> the Did you Did you ever watch the end raid? >> I don't remember. anything. Like the Jailer and you find out he was a robot?
what's it called? >> Yep. >> Wow, sip. Ultra of Ultra of first
be. >> You >> You have betrayed your duty as Arbiter have betrayed your duty as Arbiter and shall be bound forevermore.
Your madness has threatened the cycle of life and death entirely. >> You could have sought another way, brother. Imagine what we could have accomplished
Imagine what we could have accomplished together. >> Hope that guy comes back. >> What drove you to this end? You preserve that which is doomed.
A cosmos divided will not survive. What What is to come?
>> What am I looking at him? That's Zovaal.
What? What am I looking at him? What are we talking? What did I just I mean, bro. Do you know what happens? What are we The Primus? Or not the
What are we The Primus? Or not the Primus, so what's her name? The one who sorts in Oribos. >> So he turned into a robot? >> No, he was always.
different uh the Arbiter. >> They're constructs. >> All the big fugazi.
>> I think so. They're probably trying to distance themselves from the lore Blizzard in the game from his other projects, the Arbiter. I I know about them bringing back the Shadowlands, how that's going to be them trying to
distance themselves from it. Um >> That thing in his chest looks like the orb we have in day core. too out there for me, bro. Like, what are we even talking about? This is the
[ __ ] that's like kind of on the nose-ish, obvious what's happening. That was tight. Shadowlands how Sylvanas is unironically Though the person who wrote it didn't have the courage to say that to her.
to some degree. >> There are ways, nephew. >> My truths are not what they >> what they seem. >> Man, truth. >> Still, I
hope to see you both again. >> orderly They are not what they seemed. Shadowlands, bro. >> But the dark well remains.
>> Same, dude. The phoenix is still alive. Yep, Alleria Ren is going to be reborn as well. The egg came back. Can't keep a [ __ ] phoenix down, either. So, they're not going to give us Alleria
and Turalyon yet. It's too soon. But Alleria Veressa is very much hinting that Alleria is still alive.
ground. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> A little bit of time. But when I do, there may very well be a final cost for me.
>> I don't know what he's going on about. But, um no, very interesting. Uh I definitely wasn't expecting that route so soon. like >> I mean when we went into the mall in
11.2.7 to go see her, it's like >> Yeah, obviously she's going to make an appearance, right? That's a given, but it was really when I just wasn't expecting like
I'm I'm very curious also why did Xal'atath leave? I have to do the raid to understand everything completely. >> I feel like it would have been cooler. >> Mhm. >> If Sylvanas would have come in
her sisters. >> You know what's funny is that that's was even close to releasing. >> Yeah. weird that in TBC Velen used the core of void M'uru to restore the Sunwell. Now
they have the the core of void L'ura but can't do the same. Yeah, but Prophet can't do the same. Yeah, but Prophet Velen is also like not saying there's no one there right now that can that is as powerful but
like he's such a pure good person. >> Actually, I don't know he's also one of >> of how this happened or what's going on with the We have to >> right now. I'm not sure.
>> Yeah. I don't know why he can't do the same or quest line. Um that I'm not sure about. Very very interesting. >> judging based off the quest line that
leads into the march it did they did make it seem like homegirl was talking to Lor'themar she was like, "Yeah, maybe probably
You guys got to figure out something else. world. We got to we got to do some other [ __ ] >> Mhm. So, I have no idea what their plan is.
So, I have no idea what their plan is. Also, alive. We saved him, Anduin,
We saved him, Anduin, Eran, Uh I also wanted to bring up the fact, ladies and gentlemen, that if you go ahead and check the graph out here, uh there was over 5.1
uh there was over 5.1 million total keys ran million total keys ran for Mythic Plus this last week, making for Mythic Plus this last week, making it the most highest comp- like total ran
keys ever in the history of World of Warcraft in one single week on Midnight >> That's insane. Insane. >> Better than any week in Legion, better than the the two the first,
second, and third place winners in The War Within season 3, season, better than any season ever. Midnight World of Warcraft just had a season um for Mythic Plus total runs.
Yeah. But the game's dead, so. >> And then why was that? >> This is wow This is why I love seeing comments like this is wow wow has been on the decline for the last 5 years. Da
da da. Buddy, World of Warcraft ain't going. I'm going to let you in on the All it takes is one expansion, a little class pruning,
>> and that's it. >> There was 5 million runs, and the percentage What do you guys think the percentage of of players is that actually do Mythic Plus?
who literally never do mythics. Never. Ever. Now, obviously we know 5 million it's not 5 million players, it's 5 million runs. Obviously. Like we know that.
But 5 million runs is a lot of [ __ ] runs. In a week. I never do. By the way, this is in a week.
This is not a month. This is a week. 5 million in a week. Or 5 million runs in 1 week is That's almost a million runs a day. almost a million runs a day. Yeah.
people playing World of Warcraft right now and enjoying it. Yeah. Um not only that, you can go group by mythic plus level. Look how many 10s are being done.
Wow. There's more 10s being done than twos, threes, fours, fives, and sixes combined. Maybe even sevens. Yo, I mean um those 10s are pretty
freaking easy. You my mythic 10s, baby. since vanilla and did my first mythic run this week. That's pretty crazy. How though. I've never even had a max level character. That's wild. How long you
character. That's wild. How long you been playing, Rampage? with somebody for the first time uh the other day. It's the first time he's ever
general. Actually doing really well. We got up to like sixes on the very first day with him. I mean, pretty good. Prop paladin, I forgot his name. This is our life. Easiest season 1 hands
easiest I honestly I don't know. Is it the I honestly I don't know. Is it the easiest Is it Is it easy or is it just the least punishing? Because tens aren't like they're easy, sure, if you like
know how everything works. But if you're a casual player, tens still might not be >> it also still comes down to they did design this entire season of the game to be played without having any add-ons. That's what I'm saying.
>> Yeah. >> So, not only that, the class pruning, >> Classes are easier, yeah. >> Less let the packs are way less dangerous. You should see me. Oh my god. Man, doing dungeons like
Operation Floodgate compared to like the dungeons I'm doing now, oh my god, it's trivial. I go in into a in 11, I'm bored. I'm literally bored. Anything
below a 12, I'm bored. It's literally AFK seed. Seed. Seed. Big seed of corruption spam. >> Yo, 350k DPS. >> to get my eight tens done this week.
right now. So, I >> Are you doing eight tens? to get my trinket. Yo, does anyone want to help me get my my trinket in Windrunner Spire? Any Anybody in chat? >> I'll help you.
>> Can I come? >> If If funnel me that that trinket? I'll boost you to a right now. >> I need that [ __ ] trinket. I can't get it though. I've run it like
Doesn't matter, bro. I just need a Windrunner Spire key to go into. Um but I was running with a 10. Oh, what key level? Minimum level six, but I I do tens because it fills up my vault, so I
don't want to waste time. Um but yeah, very interesting. There's There's more tens being done than realistically nines, eights, sevens, sixes, and fives all at once. And four and three.
So, nine through three combined equals 10s being done. >> my goal is to um time a 20 >> A 20? season. >> That's your goal for the season.
>> I'm going to do it. Oh, I'm going to do it. >> I might have to pay for it, but I'm going to do it. >> I might have to pay for it. Who the [ __ ] are you? Are you a carry?
Are you You're talking to me like slower because I'm the idiot? Cuz I said you're >> Yeah. Weirdo.
done, not that I was going to perp like put in the work to get good enough to do it. >> Weird Chad. This guy is absolutely cooked. Get him out of here. Um Do you have the gold? Yeah, he does.
game design for casual players. I've been subscribed for years and stopped 40 hours a week. Oh, absolutely. World of Warcraft right now is the best it's ever been in its entire existence for casual solo players, but also for all
players. >> I'll actually say uh Midnight so far seems worse for casual players than War Within. Within. Worse because I officially feel like I
have to run 10s or I'm screwed. >> Here's the thing. The ceiling is a lot for casual play. But, the floor is a lot higher.
Let's make that very Adding pray and a chance to get another four to six sets of champion pieces a week with a million ways to earn crests,
the floor is a a lot higher. And you also get the hero still every Delves are still tough to go through, I'm not going to lie. But, delves and pray, bro, you can get full champion loot in literally one
session. I'm not even kidding. Crap has followed. world. And if that's your last name, we have a >> What's the item level for a 10? Honestly, if
you're a solid player, you could you can get it done at probably 250. >> 45 to 250. >> you're a good player. >> you're a good player. 20 hero crest from housing. True.
>> Yes. >> 100%. >> Yep. Delves and prey made gearing super easy. Yeah, Canadian is straight up but yeah, very very interesting. Um
I think right now, guys, I think that's for pretty much the news that we went through today. Let's go through right now. Just got the radiant plume trinket. now. Just got the radiant plume trinket. >> Nice.
from the >> [ __ ] you, man. >> From killing Rag. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. All right, bro.
Mary with the $5 Good times are hard by our hand by all. Wow, yo, Mary. What a what a dono. That's an incredible incredible thing to do that. Let me fix Lance's camera. >> What are you doing to me?
Um and just for you guys >> Setting me up, huh? >> What are you doing? >> Q intro. All right, it's time for the forum freakout where we pull the wildest, saltiest, and most unhinged
takes from the wild community. From rage posts to Reddit meltdowns, nothing here posts to Reddit meltdowns, nothing here is safe from the freakout. Let's get is safe from the freakout. Let's get into it.
you, I appreciate it. You always showing up to the streams, hanging out, and always showing love, supporting. Really truly means a lot. By the way, guys, over on Twitch, we are I think six out of 10 on our Twitch Prime goals for the
night. So, if you guys want to show some love, you can go over to the Twitch. I'll send you the link right now and toss out a Twitch Prime. We're six out toss out a Twitch Prime. We're six out of 10. We need four more to
you know, hit the goal that we're looking for today. So, go ahead and touch check out the link that we just posted in the YouTube chat and get on over there. Damn, I logged out.
Um, okay, so form free got to listen in. Let's jump into it. A sad day in my life. Hold on one second. Let me just post in the the guild chat.
We have gone to the moon before GTA 6. Will Skyland's beyond time go stream before GTA 6? Probably not. Now with the prime. Are we doing good looking? Much love to you, buddy. Hey,
how's the Outland going? How's the Outland grind going? Outland. Wait. In the Outlands. No.
We're collecting every No. I No. What the [ __ ] The great expansion. He's finished the classic zone. What the hell? Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor. What an animal.
He says he's going well, you know. Damn. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, let's jump right into it, baby. Sad day in my life. It's today. Oh god, hold on. Collect. He's collecting everything. It's today I realized the game I know is
not what it is anymore. I was so excited to see the April Fool's patch notes. I'm married with kids now. When I first saw this stuff, I was a kid myself. Reading these patch notes actually pains me. It's uh generated in Lotus now. This is
pathetic. It just reminds me of what I used to see in the game and what I felt when being in the wild community and it's sad. It's funny how this little thing made me realize this game is not for me anymore. It will probably be my
last video game ever. >> Sounds like a friend of mine. Sounds like a a good friend of mine. >> Oh, you're one of those people who say I will never play wow. I'm quitting forever. This is my last video game
ever. I'm going to go be Andrew Tate and live on a yacht with a bunch of [ __ ] Swedish models, right? Is that that's you? No, the [ __ ] you're not. 100% it's not you. You're still going to play World of Warcraft and if not you're
>> back before the last Titan, guaranteed. Guaranteed. >> I hope the new group of gamers adores these changes and new philosophy of what wow is. If new what If new wow brings them joy 20% of what this game used to
it hurts to see it this way right now from my view. Then let me ask you something. Why are you bitching on the forums then?
>> Big will, warm thoughts for you. >> really do not care, like if you really don't care about World of Warcraft, like truly, like for real. Hold on. Let's be real. Coming from one man to another man.
If you really don't care about wow, then you don't talk about it. Just like if you really don't care about the ex-girlfriend you just broke up with, >> Keep it to yourself. >> May I have your gold, big big boy?
>> Send the gold to Sky Dark Warmaster Quartz. What the [ __ ] fries in the Yeah, I'm going to be honest. You're two steps away from working at a You're two steps away from working at a Five Guys. Asian fries in the bag,
$14.99 for a meal. Overpriced burgers. That's what you're serving. This isn't a good look, my man. Big big boy. Yeah. More like little boy. Not looking good, buddy. We have a
Uh I think it's someone who care about it, but maybe felt he had to share his Think about what you just said out like think of like I'm going to read it out going to say to you privately on a DM later. I think it's someone who cares
about it, but maybe he felt he had to share his feelings. Moving on. I have punched the screen a few times and threw some hissy fits on this forum, but I can't say a video game has made me
genuinely feel sad. When I get upset, I remember it's a video game. 100% okay? I was just at my girlfriend's house using a gasoline pulse saw with two handicaps. Video game equals fun by comparison.
>> Izanic, what up? >> Let's make this very very very clear. >> At the end of the day, World of Warcraft is a video game. If WoW is not bringing you joy, you do not have to play World of Warcraft. You don't have to be upset
at World of You don't have to get angry at the game or the developers or this. Things are always going to change. Games are always going to change. >> No, that's not what I'm going to do. When my time is up in WoW,
>> You're going to go to the forums. >> No. I'm going to YouTube. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> And I'm tearing this whole mother down. It's over. It's over. Everything you worked so hard
to build, I'm going to tear it I'm going to destroy brick by brick. You're done. You're the first one I'm coming for. You're [ __ ] I'll quit when I'm done, you're done.
>> That's it. Look at that. Lance puts Comeback City on blast. We are kind of cooked. I I only was sad in this game when the true king of Stormwind died. True. So true.
Listen, I'm going to be honest. So, the April Fools post isn't clever enough for April Fools post isn't clever enough for you?
enough for you, which makes you think it's AI generated, and therefore this makes you sad. >> He He says the reason he understands the game is not for him anymore is because their April Fools joke was
not good enough in his opinion. >> Yo. You guys are cooked. This is not normal behavior. I'm going to be honest, you guys need help. This is not normal. We have to calm down. >> We have to calm down. This is not normal
to behave like this about a video game. I have to read what he said. I realize the game I know is not what it is anymore. I was excited to see the April Fools patch notes.
>> want to say >> It's generated and soulless. Hold on. You were so excited for the April Fools patch notes? out. Guys.
What are we talking? Lance is going through his Hellscream's era. Oh, 100%. We're worried about the April Fools patch [ __ ] notes. Bro, Mag'har or Garrosh go? Garrosh.
Get out. Warsong clan leader. Oh, I'm going to I'm going to try to redeem myself cuz I drank demon blood. [ __ ] out of here, bro. [ __ ] out of here.
Garrosh ate the heart of an old god. They called them the hell screams >> in battle >> I you know, I get it. >> when they yelled it was so loud that it disoriented
>> I understand. You can hell scream on these nuts. Get him out of here. >> Garrosh literally went to Sylvanas and called her a [ __ ] to her face and lived and lived to tell
the [ __ ] tale. You ever done that? >> Hey. >> Well, that's it.
insane On to the next. Big freak outs, On to the next. Big freak outs, everyone. Big freak outs. Here we go. Wow, took that away from me. True. What is with mythic plus players wanting
World of Warcraft to be a job? They cried in Legion for the mode to be more competitive. So, we lost triple chest. By the way, I miss triple chest. Okay. Um,
>> They cried in BFA for the mode to be harder. We got Shadowlands mythic plus created Raider.IO and effectively put a gate around the mode so you had to also have Raider.IO and climb the job ladder doing low keys to make it into high
keys. Blizzard started to walk back the difficulty of mythic plus in Dragonflight, integrated Raider.IO into the game, made dungeons more friendly, Midnight where Blizzard was walking back their decisions. I mean, hold on because
>> There's a lot of >> Season 1 of The War Within was Ah, that [ __ ] was so hard, bro, and unforgiving. >> Actually, man. >> Then, I think season 2 was a little bit
>> It was It was a good good amount of >> It was a pretty good season. >> Season 3 was great. >> And then season 3 was like great. >> And then season 3 was like great. >> I I still miss Echo Dome Aldani. It's
>> That's crazy. I really don't like it. That's okay. Like it's a good dungeon. >> It's a good dungeon, it's not great. >> Yeah, but you didn't run it >> In the In the world within. >> In the world within?
What's your favorite one? >> Dawnbreaker. >> Yeah, what a swamp ass dungeon. >> Dawnbreaker. Yo guys, what's your And then we'll talk about Midnight Keep. >> No, it's actually it's the Rookery was
>> Rookery was the best one. I like the Rookery. >> True. >> Um Oh, actually
dungeon. >> Floodgates an excellent dungeon. yeah. Maybe Floodgate was the best one. >> Oh, but you know what?
[ __ ] What about um Priory was good too, man. It was hard, >> It's good. >> The amount of caster mobs in there is terrible. >> Definitely not Priory. I I like the lore
>> Definitely not Priory. I I like the lore and the design and the bosses of there, Priory, but it's such a hard dungeon, bro. Honestly, Priory had such heavy Scarlet Monastery vibes that I
really liked it. What else? You know what which other one was hard as [ __ ] but it was good. >> Iron Vault. >> Yeah.
>> It's hard, but the the fights were fun. You have to admit. >> I know, but the fights were fun. >> That was such a [ __ ] hard dungeon, bro.
>> Blackrock Depths. >> 100%. without a doubt. Yeah. It doesn't even It's not even close. Blackrock Depths is the best dungeon of all time. I think there's 18 bosses in there.
Maybe more. I think it's 28 bosses, not 18. I might be wrong. But absolutely incredible dungeon. >> BRD. I also like um >> BRD. I also like um Ooh, Cinderbrew. Oh, wait. Cinderbrew
mean the best pull of all of the war within? Best music for a dungeon in all the world. >> And then we fight the BEO. >> Change my mind. Cinderbrew is my favorite.
banger dungeons. >> No, War Within had excellent dungeons. dungeons. Windrunner Spire, great. Murder Row, S tier. >> Windrunner Spire is good. Murder Row is
>> Windrunner Spire is good. Murder Row is good. Magister's Terrace is good. I think I like Nexus Point Xenas. I don't like >> like that and I don't like that. >> Star Arena?
>> Great dungeon. >> Bro, [ __ ] Cinderbrew as a healer. Oh, yeah. Every healer says the same thing about Cinderbrew. >> Oh, with our academy is good. >> Every DPS loves Cinderbrew. Every healer
Isn't that funny? >> Yeah, no. The the dungeon pull besides >> Okay, seven of eight are really good. >> Back to complaining that too many people are getting into Mythic Plus, that more
game is getting too easy. Can you believe how ridiculous this is? bad for a while. >> By the way, Canadian.
It's so hard because like what what non-stop gameplay loop could you possibly make in World of Warcraft other than something like Mythic? Like what do they do in games like Final Fantasy and SWTOR? Like what's the end
game loop? Or sit not City Heroes, DCUO. like >> But like what? >> But like what? >> Um I think so like Mythic Plus, the
reason it's in the game is because wild players became so efficient. their [ __ ] done. It's like there after Think about Well, think about it like this. Ask yourself this
question question. What do you do in the end game of classic wow? You literally >> You raid or you grind gold. >> Yeah. So, in retail wow, they're
can we change that? They had world quests, they had a Mythic Plus, adding Midnight World of Warcraft they had things like pray, they have delves. So like there's more and more content but now at this point like at the highest
echelon of content obviously you have rating in Mythic Plus but what could you possibly add? Like what could they possibly create to add on to that? It I don't know. I'm not sure.
>> No, I mean you could never And and the thing is you can never take Mythic Plus out. But they need to also go back to the old way of doing dungeons where they make
experiences, you know? Mega dungeons need to come back. >> And like let Mythic Plus could still be a thing. >> This is why I still say they should have one mega dungeon every season.
>> Like at least one. >> And maybe you don't even have it don't even have it be in the Mythic Plus pool. >> Well, it doesn't need to be a brand new >> Yeah. >> Like what if you did Blackrock Depths as
a mega dungeon? Or you keep you know you brought back Tazavesh which I enjoyed. Or you you combine two other dungeons like both the prior dungeons into one mean? So, I don't know. I think that could be interesting. But, I like that
point. I like that point. Like like give an option for people because remember in War Within season three they had the Tazavesh mega dungeon and they gave you the option you can go get a bunch of [ __ ] good loot in
there, bro. And if you went on a deathless run, you got a myth track item That was cool. >> Bro. >> Insane. >> Bro, you can't say the team that's
>> Or mythic plus should only be cosmetics and aura farming. Yeah, but then no one players, the majority of players want power. That's what they're looking for. That's why whenever we make a gearing video, our most viewed videos, we know
what people want. >> Wow players do things for power. I mean, do things for cosmetics, but the majority of people there's not a reward >> They just don't do it. >> Unless you're unless you're like a real
lover of World of Warcraft like people only want stuff for power. >> a [ __ ] about story. They don't give a [ __ ] about side events. They don't give a [ __ ] about activities or housing and or the fishing events or any They don't
care about anything but power. That's what your average, you know, uh like go run mythic plus. >> Yeah, that's how you play the game. >> Like no. I remember I was playing War Within
that came from classic wow. They don't give a [ __ ] about retail. All they cared like, "Bro, but there's a million other things to do. Like like I want to go do bro. Let's just go gear. What do you mean? What are you going to do? An
event? Going to do 0.5 patch right now? The anniversary event? What are you I'm like [ __ ] no, you're wasting your time. Like Warcraft, bro. >> Yeah, I
listen, I when I play one I play I want to play wow. >> Yeah, I >> Like I love mythic plus. I like it for what it is, but I don't I I don't play
play mythic plus. Does that make sense? I log into wow to play my character, hang out with the guild, >> Mythic plus is a means to an end for me. >> Yeah. >> If there wasn't rating, I would not do
mythic plus. >> Yeah, like >> Uh world quests are diluted and mythic plus is convoluted. They need something that makes me logging on not feel smug. Ooh, very interesting. Hey. Rating is my
gateway for mythic plus. That's crazy. >> See, there you go. collected a thousand housing items and I've never even looked at how to buy a house or is it? Yeah, but once again, that's it's optional. And that's the
>> Like you play it how you want to play it. I just really mean by the people who who always do the same thing, right? You got you got your player who goes new expansion's coming out, it's my time to be the best new player, blah blah blah,
mythic plus achievements, I'm going to be the best in PvP, blah blah. They play for 2 weeks and they [ __ ] quit. You'll never see them again. don't really listen to because they don't actually like World of Warcraft as
>> They're here for the hype cycle and >> And they leave. >> And that's it. Which is fine. If that's you, that's it is what it is. That's what that is, yeah. Uh I haven't played the game in 6 years,
currently downloading it. I'm excited. >> Wow, that is so sick. >> back. >> Holy [ __ ] traveling ginger, you [ __ ] >> Yo, by the way, if you're interested, uh are you in the Discord, uh traveling
By the By the Gino, what spec do you play on World of War uh on World I built a house and I've been getting and you bunch of new housing decor and initial time. Yeah, I have to I have to really dive into housing.
Destruction. Oh, that's so cool. I got to go to um stuff. For my Yeah, for my monk. So, I'm going to do like a void uh a void monk style inspired house,
right? >> Uh Dryfighter with the prime. Wow, thank you. Thank you, man. Appreciate appreciate it. Shout out to you for the prime. Uh if you guys want to throw some primes over on the uh where's my mouth?
over there? We're three primes away from hitting our goal. So, if you guys want to show some love over on the Twitch uh you can actually go ahead and do that for absolutely free. Throw some primes. And uh you know, rock sweet sweet primes
YouTube chat. If you guys want to go do it, check it out. >> The world is full, but the silence is deafening. Wow. I actually like that title. Time and time again, I kept coming back to
experience. Many friends would constantly tell me that it was never about the destination, but conversely, the journey. I've been playing since there has been many memories shared behind the screen. Mostly great with
>> That's crazy. >> However, it isn't it isn't about these great memories. It is the fact that I haven't had Sun grown the prime. Thank Herogene, raid time. See you later. Have a good one, buddy.
It's about the fact that I haven't had this much fun in an expansion in a very long time, but something is missing from the experience and I'm inquiring to see if I am broken or if this is a larger problem.
been times when communication amongst other players occurred. Now, I'm seeing one another. I got you. I'll send you a Discord link >> Let me Yeah, I'm
Services is a mess. General is non-existence, and I have never had any filters on, and I've always been very vocal to to communicate because that is one of the major pillars in any game. Conversation and communication. The good
bad now. one except my brother, whom I was leveling with, and we live a few blocks this? >> There was no better There was no banter,
in zone. The word This worries me because I am seeing this trend. I cannot be the only one. Obviously, you all may say that I'm I am overreacting, which >> Can I say something? What is it with people and like
blaming others for there being no conversations going around the world? >> Like everyone loves to do that for some reason. Like they point the finger. Like you striking up a conversation with anybody?
Like every time I do in Mythic Plus, whenever I join a queue, I I have a want to [ __ ] talk to anybody cuz I just don't want to. to, I just talk to people in the guild. That's it. So like I don't know. Like I
always I always hear this same sentiment over and over. Like no one's talking to me. Like why why like the game is broken. It's the developers. It's the >> I I will say >> have you joined a community? Are you in
a guild? Are you in a Discord? >> is definitely a little different because and we've spoken about this so many times on the show. A lot of the of game. Like people already have their friends.
And they're talking to them in Discord. Like Nerdy even said in chat. Like people are in Discord. And they're not necessarily talking in game, and that's fine. But people have friends. You and you
could go and look for friends. And there's communities all over the place. By the way, there's a 1 million World of Warcraft Discords. >> There's There's even double the guilds. >> Yeah, like you can It takes 2 seconds to
not be so scared and just join a guild and try to meet some people. Like it's mean? Like I really don't. I don't know what to say. Like I know I know classic
WoW is very like casual in the way they do communication. But retail, the reason why retail is so large and sort of, I guess, like that step up is because it's cross-server everything, cross-realm everything. There's a lot
everything. So, you're not known by on your server, you're known within your guild. Does that make sense? Like you got a thousand plus members in your people know you within your guild, not by the server now. It's different.
Different game. And I don't know about you, I'd rather be that way like because Don't get me wrong, I love I love the old days of MMORPGs where it's like, "Yo, the undead rogue [ __ ] bone breaker." I don't [ __ ] know. Like he
was the craziest PvP Yeah, okay, awesome. Sounds fun. But like you [ __ ] that guy. That dude was also He's not in guilds or Discords or anything. Like guilds or Discords or anything. Like stuff like this, this is This is a 24/7
>> now, everyone's in a Discord. >> Yeah, sure. I don't know. The only thing I'm saying is like in classic World of Warcraft, there's a lot of conversation because that's
that's a major aspect of the game cuz that's one of the only things to do. You that's one of the only things to do. You raid log, and you sit your freaking ass in Orgrimmar, and you AFK and talk and react to [ __ ] Oh. Outlaw crashed.
react to [ __ ] Oh. Outlaw crashed. With the five comeback kids memberships, insane. By the way guys, we just officially broke our sub goal on the night. Let's get some huges in the
chat. It's time to whip out the animation, the fire lion himself, animation, the fire lion himself, Tony the tiger.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm just spitting up in absolutely crazy. Thank you, thank you. Appreciate that. Hello. Thank you, thank you. Thank you guys. Sub goal officially met.
No more donating. Enough. Save your money. Um Chat is dead because Microsoft has been working on moderating and unhinged community. What?
unhinged community and they have tried very hard to reduce liability by positioning chat as a secondary versus a primary driver of the MMORPG in the name taken the character and interesting elements of individuals and silenced
them. We used to out troll the troll. Now no more. We fall victim to the people on a massive multiplayer game report individual silence talking with variable. Yo, are you [ __ ] mentally going to
make it? This is like some ridiculous bro. You have too much time on your hands about why you can't make friends. why you can't make friends. >> chat GPT.
once supported the golden days are cycling for newer generations that don't value conversation and community engagement the same way.
one said hi to you in Mythic Plus? Or while you were questing? Let me ask Or while you were questing? Let me ask you, did you say hi to them? That's a good one to ask. I mean, I know for a fact your goofy ass didn't because
you love doing stuff like this. I'm going to take it to the forums instead going to take it to the forums instead and whine about it.
>> Just say hello. >> Yeah, I don't know. It's the new deep state. Yeah, bro, you guys are fried. This is cooked. but we use this tool to relax, have fun, and enter a fantasy world. I've never
>> What did I know what did I say was coming? >> We used to form rivalries. We used to know the names of the trolls in trade chat and the legendary heroes of our server. Now everyone is a player server
name, a transient ghost passing through a phase gifted layer. All right, you chat GB [ __ ] >> rid of Should've got rid of the hyphens, >> Bro. >> Really gave it away.
>> This Is this this guy's first rodeo? >> Super. Super chat GB. We have app- We have optimized the massively in the optimized the massively in the multiplayer right out of the RPG.
multiplayer right out of the RPG. I'm done reading this AI bot. >> What's up with blood elf females? >> Yeah, they're on They're all paladins. >> My server's dead to to be fair. I mean, yeah, but servers really don't
>> chat that you see will only be from your server. >> I guess. >> We're also on a pretty good server, man. >> I don't know. I I guess I don't know. Who Who pays attention to chat?
Dude, I pay attention to I literally have a tab for guild chat and I just activate that every time I log in. >> Yeah, I feel that. >> So, me personally, I don't I don't look at like my trade chat or like general
chat. Like I I literally toggle guild chat. That's it. an idiot. >> No, that's good. guild. Uh what server are you on? >> Uh
>> I mean, the servers don't It's cross-realm, cross everything. So, if It faction, we can invite you into the comeback city. are steps to join the comeback edge. >> Big true, Zonic.
>> Uh I've known people on my realm for years. >> Low pop has bad auction house, nobody out in the world doing stuff, etc. I guess. I mean, that could be the same case in any MMO ever, though.
I guess that's just like that's basic knowledge. I don't know. >> Yes, traveler it or traveling ginger, it was different 6 years ago, but now >> Yeah, you can just play with everyone. >> This guy is absolutely fried. I am on to
the last one because I I can't take this guy seriously with chat GPT. guy seriously with chat GPT. >> Shady bolt, it's you, Sky. >> That's That's all sevens. All sevens. Yeah.
>> Get the [ __ ] out. >> No, it's all sevens. Yeah. >> No, it's not. >> Hey, Keystone Master is all sevens, >> Hey, Keystone Master is all sevens, buddy.
>> But there's no way that's true. >> Keystone Master is the sevens. >> Keystone Master is the sevens. >> No, I mean the statistic. Fewer than 1% >> No, I mean the statistic. Fewer than 1% has Keystone Master?
>> This rhetoric that Mythic Plus is so easy this season is just crazy to me. Azshara for Mythic Plus achievements from the first week. Keystone Explorer, well, yeah, but you're talking about this season? I mean, yeah, okay.
>> I mean, yeah, there's only one weekend. >> Yeah, what the [ __ ] >> Yeah, what the [ __ ] Keystone Master, 0.67 of accounts. Keystone Legend, 0.0007. >> I think he's trying to prove that this
not so easy or this patch isn't so easy when only 1% have it. >> Like, what are you going to do right now? What are we talking about? I don't get why I keep seeing people saying keys are easier across Reddit.
saying keys are easier across Reddit. KSM is under 1%. These keys are very very easy even with the usual DPS meatheads ignoring right now. >> to see me comment in here, by the way.
>> I think I'm going to be so real with you right now. These are so so real with you right now. These are so beyond easy right now. It is ridiculous. Yes. It is trivial content. Yes. Like, anything below a 13 is I'm
not even kidding, it's trivial if you have gear. Like, for for people like I'm not I'm decent at the game. Like, I'm pretty good. But, like, there's people that dog walk my ass.
I've queued up with people who make me look stupid. And, like, I don't know. season than the entire first week of season one of the War Within. Wow.
That's crazy. That's an interesting stat. But, isn't that the point? Yeah, I mean, I I don't I don't mind. I don't mind Keystone Master being 2K's easy, but
you're the 1%. I don't know, that's interesting. Then it would be achievable. Yeah, I know, absolutely. But also, I I mean, are we really worried about Not sure. Like it's only it's the first
week. Bro, yeah, I I'm Listen, I'm not like breaking my head to like worried because key like Mythic Plus seems easy right now. Right now, that's not even on my mind. By the way, getting experiment 12B from the chest is very very rare.
King time walking, I got Invincible. I got very lucky. Um but it it can drop, yeah. Very rare though, obviously. used to, and week two doing tens were giga easy. I don't mind it though, keys
Yeah, that By the way, that's what everyone has said. Let me ask you guys in the chat right now. Do you like that Mythic Plus is easier right now to do, and it's more completable, or do you want it to be much harder to where you
have to do tens and twelves, and you have to finally reach that near like the mid end way point of the season? Your weekly expected to kind of do we for your weekly's to get the best [ __ ] shouldn't
have to be that hard. Like yeah, if I want to if I want to farm tens they to get a myth like, you know, my myth slots in my vault who gives a [ __ ] Yeah, let everyone get the gear, bro.
Who cares? Well, it's not It's also just one piece of gear a week. Yeah, bro, who cares? It's not like It's made for console players incoming. I hate when people say that cuz it's
like so natural. I mean, even if it is First of all, I I hope I hope World of allow it to be played on consoles. I really do. I hope it. But it's just not true. I wish it was, but they've said it so many [ __ ] times
it's too easy, I would love to see you do a heroic raid just right now. And I'd >> get why Mythic plus difficulty is an issue. Isn't it infinitely scaling for a reason? Too easy, just do higher. Yeah. I don't know.
great-grandchild was born today. >> Wow. legendary >> Mary, you're a great-great-grandmother Congratulations. >> Yo.
>> Yo. Holy [ __ ] Is that true, Mary? great-great-great-great-grandmother. >> Yeah, her fourth great-grandchild, yeah.
Who is that? What a legend. >> Imagine, she's like the sixth generation Mary's like a vampire. >> yeah, she's 300 years old. >> I play Rogue on controller. By the way, I I'll tell you right now, I guarantee
Affliction Warlock on Steam Deck is probably so much fun. Seed. Seed, Dark Harvest. Seed. Seed. That is gnarly, bro. More kids in this
in August, buddy. That's crazy. If I'm sitting at the bar and my friend tells me he did a plus 19, I'd slap him off his chair. just cuz you can do 10s doesn't mean you can do 13s. Listen, 13s, like, I got to
sit up. Like, it gets hard. 13s are hard. You you mess up one thing, you're >> So, like, yeah, and that's fine. Let the people who want the game to be hard could push the harder content. But, there's no reason like why we don't have
>> Well, you have to understand, also, 13s is that echelon to where you have to reach every dungeon to get your 3K. So, that is the end. >> Yeah, I agree. >> But, why we don't have to gatekeep the
>> No, gatekeep the 10s. >> No, bro, let them be eat. the way, I bet you this ends up being the highest participation Mythic Plus season of all time. I'm willing to bet money.
Yes. And yeah, guess what? [ __ ] let it. Let people enjoy it. I'm going to run Mythic Plus this season get from delves. And and pray.
my head. And then I'm just going to be stronger for the raids I want to do. Plus right now. >> sure. I'm fishing for one trinket right Like at least I have something to [ __ ] grind out and feel like classic
World of Warcraft in. Like I'm literally spamming a dungeon for my pre-bis right now in a way. >> I remember a clip of you guys saying >> Yes. >> Yes, and it is. It literally is.
>> Shout out to the YouTube shorts. >> I stand by that take. >> I agree 100%. I think it's crazy that in the first week we already saw some 18s pretty crazy, but >> I think there was there were definitely
though is like just when you think >> a sub rogue who did a 19. >> There was a 17 with an arms warrior and a fury warrior. >> But like My point is is like it's always a skill
You can play whatever the [ __ ] you want when you want how you want to. That's number one. Number two, if if people try to tell you this [ __ ] like you can't come because you're not this class or your IO this
>> So my D's not so miss. >> Yeah, like like just play the game and enjoy it for yourself, man. Like I don't know, man. I really I don't know. >> If By the way, guys, if World of Warcraft wants to get people who are
coming back to the game or new players, the way to do that is to make these people who are just coming back or new feel [ __ ] huge. >> Make the game more
they're good. >> Listen, at the end of the day, it's all about making people feel like a part of the game. Giving them opportunities to actually play the content. Mythic plus, delves, rating,
pray. Make it more accessible, more casual to join in, but then higher in >> And let me tell you >> higher the floor and and and up the ceiling. Like like bring everyone up. >> And let me tell you something.
The people if they get that crowd of people, not only are there more of those players than the ones who are like really good mythic raider pushing those 18 19s like >> Or obviously
game that it's like you're probably on the spectrum, like those guys. Not only are they less, these people are going to spend more money on the shop. They care [ __ ] >> Let's make one thing very very clear to
>> Let's make one thing very very clear to the audience right now. The top 1% don't actually give a rat's ass about World of Warcraft. They want to play mythic plus Warcraft to be the healthiest it's ever
been, Lance? You make things more accessible to everybody. Look at classic wow. You could do you could do every form of content ever in classic wow and >> Yes. >> That's good for the game.
How can you enjoy a game with plus 18s and 19s being ran week one? What are the chance of anyone with an actual job? But here's my question. Why do you have to do a like why does someone else doing 18s and 19s affect you at all?
>> still get the same gear as them. >> And and by the way, that may sound like you something. Me and Lance discovered this recently, too. Over the last few >> wrote a video about this. >> Yeah. But we we we discovered this over
the last few years of like But yeah, why the [ __ ] do I need to go try to mythic raid or do the highest Just screw that. Just enjoy the game for what like you have to have goals for yourself set out to what makes you enjoy
>> Yes. And you know what I find in World of Warcraft when I have the most fun is when I figure out what's a realistic goal for myself. >> Yeah. >> I know I'm not
season, he's like, "Man, with how mythic plus is looking to shape, I think I'm season." >> That's Yeah, that's my goal. 3K rating, heroic raid full clear. >> That's it. I'm good, bro.
higher than that. And that's fine. If I never step foot into the mythic raid this season, that's cool. But, if I get my OTC and 3K, I'm very happy, bro. I'm very happy. And that's realistic.
realistic for all of you. If your realistic is, "I'd like to get Keystone >> Yeah. >> Exactly. effort. >> Yeah, listen,
at the end of the day, first of all, 18s are out of control. Like I just did a 13. I've done a couple 13s already this season. Very difficult, man. Like very, very, very difficult. But, like
I don't I don't even care to push past 13s because I just want my 3K and I'm bouncing and I'm good because I just don't need it. Like there was a point in to push past 3K and go to the highest I can."
I just don't care. I really don't. I want to enjoy every class. I want to things out. I want to raid on different specs. I want to do PvP. Like there's so many goals I have that I want to do. Like I have to hit 2K in arena this
That's another >> And and it's [ __ ] hard right now, but it's a goal I have. Like I want to hit 2K rating on my arena. I want to get my my weapon enchant. I want to get the elite armor set. I want to get I want to
farm a bunch of medallions. So whenever I need them, I can buy PvP stuff whenever I need. Like I want to do it. There's a lot of goals I have. And I'll tell you what, trying to like put myself in the position where like I'm setting
myself up for failure for FOMO, it's just I don't know. the way, shadow priestess, I was watching a shadow priest feral druid 2v2 comp. Man, 2v2 actually looks a lot more fun
pruned and a lot more simple and it's a lot slower. And like versing healer DPS in twos, not that difficult anymore. Like shadow priest opens up blanket silence, uses feather, runs up to the healer.
After silence, he psychic scream. You know, psychic scream's coming out. Feral druid will clone and then bash, clone again. By that time, silence is shadow on your main? >> just saying like
>> I'm just saying it's possible. >> trying to run this [ __ ] >> I'm just saying it's possible. very fun right now. Is anyone doing a PvP right now?
Anyone right now? I'm going to level an augvoker and go going to level an augmentation? By the way, Gino, do you raid with us? I don't think you raid with us. >> I haven't seen him in there, no.
>> I just started playing, have never touched the game, been craving an MMO appreciate the solo-friendly aspect. I work a healthcare job and my I'm assuming my friend at work, too.
myself and not rely on parties. Interesting. Bro, I'll tell you what, Zephyr, uh we have a lot of really good videos on the channel for like the ultimate like we have like an ultimate starter
Uh I'll tell you right now, this video right here is [ __ ] awesome for getting kick-started in World of Warcraft. So, if you're interested Oh, you did? Oh, no [ __ ] Okay. So, yeah. All right, there you go. But, there are
in the Discord, shoot me a DM, whatever the case may be. I'll I'll try to help now since they got buffed. Yeah, I haven't fought one this week yet, but I know they look good. I was actually thinking about trying one
out. It's just like a very interesting style, similar to Warlock. I'm trying to level my Wait, Bima has a few Oh, really? get a Discord link? Yeah, I got you, baby. Appreciate it.
Got you. I got you. Boom. That should be good to go. Um, not doing much PvP yet, but I still definitely fun right now. It's the most fun in PvP I've had since pre BFA. So,
anything before BFA, even it kills Dragonflight, which Dragonflight was pretty fun season 1. Obviously, it's better than Shadowlands, better than uh, BFA. >> Wait, I still got to like Shadowlands
>> season 1 was pretty good, but right now it's like like it's a chess game now. Like, before in everything all the time. Everyone had too many buttons.
Now, it's like pruned. I understand how every class works. What's the title mean? I don't know what that means. YouTube. >> It's just a little bit of this, but also
>> I might throw hearts. I'm sorry. I've been enjoying PvP so far. >> Yeah, it's uh, I've actually enjoyed it a lot cuz I did not like War Within PvP and I didn't like Dragonflight PvP at all. It has been a lot of fun.
superstar in the chat, Napple. I don't know if you guys know him. He's a know if you guys know him. He's a [ __ ] Chad. Full-blown house. Like, if you were to like Oh, [ __ ] Know who Napple is, he's not just like a shack,
he's a full-blown house. Three bedroom, three bathroom, pool in the back. Oh, grill on the side of the house. We got a two-door garage for cars, fridge in the garage, so you know he's got money.
Uh Napple's a [ __ ] winner. >> What is a Napple? >> Um But okay, ladies and gentlemen, uh that show. Uh we pretty much went through everything. A lot going on in World of
lie. Um Saturday, we do have like a little pre-show or like a pre-raid like talk and discussion we're are going to be raiding and streaming the raid as well. We're going to hang
>> THE MARCH! >> We are doing the March on Quel'Thalas, and then I think we're going to do a very, very, very quick re-clear up until Aleria, and then just skip Aleria and go right into heroic, maybe get the first
two bosses down if we can, and uh just go from there. The goal is to get people and uh >> You're very much miss like underestimating how long we're going to be in the March.
>> Think so? >> Think so. We're going to do both of those on normal, switch to heroic one shot, do week. >> Sure.
I think every time someone asks in the stream this week, like, "Hey, what say mythic. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. [ __ ] it, dude.
>> I'll be a liar. >> I'm a liar. I'm a con artist. I conned all you. I'm not actually here right now. I'm AI. I'm AI generated.
this in the right way. I'm a love the haircut. Thank you, Laura. I appreciate right way. That's what's That's what anything up. That's crazy. Lance,
this is smart. You're thinking about this the right way. Yes. I have mine pretty much trained to be just like me in terms of how I speak. So, like it'd be like, "Yes, this is the hype people are looking for, bro."
All right, thanks, Lance. Thank you for the comment, as always. Yo, guys, I love you so much. Um we also have uh a news video coming out on The you guys are interested in checking out some of our clips on our clip channel,
be sure to check out this channel right here. Boom, this one. We're posting a lot of news. Um by the way, Laura, you could just hang out with us and goof off. We We're literally wrapping up the show
now, though. Um but go to The Comeback City uh channel, dude. We're getting a lot a lot of traction over there. We already got 8,000 subscribers, which is took us to get 8,000 subscribers on the main channel? It took us years. Long
time. It took us like the end of Wrath of the Lich King. long it took us to like go through that saga? I remember. Crazy. I remember. I switched realms and got me removed
luck. The same way you did. Just make a note in your in your I switched guilds. Please invite me back." Say, "I spoke to Lance." By the way, we still have that Illidan
secret lab chair that that guy couldn't get. Does anyone have a secret lab chair in here? Why are people commenting like y'all are quitting? Yeah, I don't know. We were thinking about swapping games.
>> Oh, you didn't hear? We're quitting all the Warcraft. >> Okay, well, he's saying it like bluntly. It was an idea. We're going And we're going to play Get your [ __ ]
play EverQuest. EverQuest is the new jam. Haven't you Fool's joke. >> Oh, by the way, I do want to say >> He's It doesn't seem like he's in the chat. But there was a very big member of
a bit and just came back yesterday. this right now, but I know he will watch it in the future in the recording. So, I want to say Gino, welcome back. Or not Gino, Jesus,
We missed you, buddy. >> Love you, buddy. back. I can't wait to raid with you again, man. Much love. Love you, love again, man. Much love. Love you, love you, love you. And um
I mean, that's all I got, guys. I should be I should be um recording the script that I wrote. 100% You should be tomorrow. >> Yeah, maybe tomorrow I'll record it and
over, you do a quick little recording, hang out, goof off. See how we do. >> All right, y'all. God bless. We will see you guys this Saturday for raid. So, be there or be
one. >> Okay. Love you guys. God bless. >> Okay. Love you guys. God bless. >> Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace.