[0:00] We need to talk about Demon Slayer, [0:02] specifically about Demon Slayer: [0:04] Infinity Castle, the brand new feature [0:06] film that marks the beginning of the end [0:07] for this mega popular anime series. The [0:10] 2 and 1/ half-hour anime adaptation [0:12] follows the elite members of the Demon [0:14] Slayer Corps, as they fall head first [0:16] into the Mantiverse of Madness, aka the [0:19] Infinity Castle, which is kind of like [0:21] if Mc Cher designed the Winchester [0:23] Mystery House, then filled it with [0:24] nightmarish murder monsters. The first [0:27] in a planned trilogy to conclude the [0:29] series, Demon Slayer Infinity Castle [0:31] finds our heroes squaring off against [0:33] the brutal demons of the 12 Kizuki and [0:35] their own tortured pasts as they hunt [0:37] down the demon king man presumably for [0:39] copyright infringement on the king of [0:41] pop. Now, let me be crystal clear. I [0:45] really enjoyed this movie. But while the [0:47] film is shattering box office records [0:49] and heart with its many, many, many [0:52] flashbacks, there are two big problems [0:54] with the movie. Number one, I sat in the [0:57] second row from the front of my iMac [0:59] screening, which was just an insane [1:01] experience. I can't recommend that at [1:04] all, but that was really more of a [1:05] personal failure. Number two is the [1:08] pacing. Good lord, we need to talk about [1:10] the pacing. This was a 2 and 1/ half [1:12] hour movie that felt like a 2 and 1/2 [1:14] hour movie. And I say this as someone [1:16] who enjoys 2 and 1/2 hour movies. So, [1:19] let's talk about it. Join us as we dive [1:21] back into the pocket dimension of the [1:23] Infinity Castle to break down our [1:25] thoughts on this latest chapter in the [1:27] Demon Slayer saga and talk about how [1:29] anime needs to evolve if its future does [1:31] in fact lie on the big screen. Now, [1:33] whether you're a demon slayer, demon [1:35] hunter of the K-pop variety, or whatever [1:38] was happening in weapons, this year's [1:39] box office has been dominated by all [1:41] manner of supernatural monsters and the [1:43] people that dispose of them. And we [1:45] can't get enough. But while Infinity [1:47] Castle's been mastering the art of money [1:49] breathing at the box office, there seems [1:51] to be one common caveat among all of the [1:53] reviews, many of which center on the [1:55] film's pacing. IGN's Raphael Motoayor [1:58] wrote, "Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle is [2:00] a movie that feels like an unedited [2:02] compilation film, a poorly stitched [2:04] together series of episodes with [2:06] horrendous pacing and a never-ending [2:08] series of flashbacks and what is [2:10] obviously a very incomplete story. [2:13] Harsh, but fair, I guess. But why those? [2:16] Kenneth Seer Jr. wrote, "The film [2:18] features gorgeous animation, a strong [2:20] cast, and some of the best action scenes [2:22] the series has ever produced. [2:24] Unfortunately, some of these highlights [2:25] are marred by their condensed plot and [2:28] poor pacing." And Polygon's Franchesco [2:30] Kachtorii wrote, "If I have to judge [2:32] Infinity Castle as a movie, it has one [2:34] big issue: pacing." And I I love this [2:37] one because the word pacing is literally [2:39] in the URL of the review. So, yeah, it's [2:42] apparently a common refrain. Everyone [2:44] seems to agree EUO Table went absolutely [2:47] sicko mode on the animation, but for [2:49] many people, myself included, the [2:51] narrative's pacing brings both battles [2:53] and momentum to a screeching halt. Now, [2:56] before we get too deep on the subject, [2:57] we do want to issue a quick spoiler [2:59] warning for those who haven't yet seen [3:00] the movie. We're going to be talking [3:02] about specific spoilers for key details [3:04] in Infinity Castle. So, if you haven't [3:07] seen it yet, go flashback to a time [3:09] where you didn't willingly click on this [3:11] video of your own free will. Jeremy [3:16] When it comes to pacing in Infinity [3:18] Castle, the issue is twofold. Firstly, [3:20] the film is basically three battles that [3:22] happen back to back to back. It's [3:24] literally one battle after another. Not [3:27] that one. The revolution. [3:31] It's kind of like when you split the [3:32] party in Dn D. These events are [3:34] happening relatively simultaneously or [3:37] so the audience can assume. But rather [3:39] than being interwoven, they happen one [3:41] after another for the viewer. But we [3:44] aren't treated to a non-stop Fury Road [3:46] style clash between these powerful [3:48] breathing styles of the Demon Slayer [3:49] core and the terrifying blood demon arts [3:52] of man's minions. Rather, Demon Slayer, [3:54] like so much shown in anime, relies [3:56] heavily on mid- battle flashbacks that [3:59] give us insight into the rich inner [4:01] lives of these characters and provide [4:02] the tragic, beautiful context to give [4:04] these bloody battles major emotional [4:06] weight. And before you rush to the [4:08] comment section, I have been watching [4:10] anime my entire life. I know over mid- [4:13] battle monologues are a hallmark of the [4:15] genre. I love them, especially in shown [4:17] in anime. But here, they wound up [4:20] undercutting their impact. All of the [4:22] flashbacks in Infinity Castle feel [4:24] meaningful. Shobu Kocho's doomed attempt [4:27] to avenge her sister's murder at the [4:28] hands of the demon Doma. That was a [4:30] heartbreaking way to open this film, [4:32] especially how it ends. Zenitu showed us [4:34] that time- tested anime lesson that hard [4:36] work can overcome innate talent when he [4:38] triumphed over his former brother and [4:40] thunder breathing arms, Kaaku. And it [4:42] hit that much harder because we had a [4:44] sense of the deep emotional scars that [4:46] each of these young men bear. And then [4:49] we have the final extended flashback of [4:51] Aaza's backstory. It's a crushing, [4:54] depressing glimpse into how an angry, [4:56] alienated young man finally found peace [4:59] only to have it ripped away in the [5:01] crulest fashion possible. It gave rich [5:03] new layers to a character best known for [5:05] turning Reng Goku into a human bracelet [5:07] in the Mugan Train film. [5:10] Ah. Now, unfortunately, it's also the [5:13] most egregious example of how Infinity [5:14] Castle's flashbacks work poorly in the [5:17] context of a feature film. This final [5:19] extended glimpse into AAZA's backstory [5:22] takes place right in the middle of a [5:23] climactic fight nearly 2 hours into the [5:26] movie. While the flashback itself is [5:28] incredible and emotionally impactful and [5:31] filled with more Channing Tatum than you [5:32] know what to do with if you watch the [5:34] dub, its place in the structure of the [5:36] movie grinds the film's momentum to a [5:39] complete and utter halt. It got to the [5:41] point where I heard audible laughter in [5:42] my theater with each successive [5:44] flashback. And that that sucks, [5:46] especially when it's setting up [5:47] something so earnest and devastating. [5:49] And this was also an audience that [5:51] literally cheered when the Crunchyroll [5:53] logo came up at the start of the movie. [5:54] So they were the right people in the [5:57] right place. But that brings us to the [5:58] whole root of this issue, which is [6:00] structure. Because to be clear, the [6:02] story itself perfectly fine. The actual [6:04] substance of material being adapted is [6:06] not at fault. Rather, the fault lies in [6:08] how faithfully this film sticks to the [6:10] manga. Rather than adapting the manga to [6:12] a more traditional film-like structure, [6:14] Infinity Castle instead opts to [6:16] translate a huge chunk of the manga as [6:18] it was written, approximately 18 [6:20] chapters or so. And sure, that makes [6:22] sense if you're looking at it from a [6:24] traditional anime perspective of [6:26] adapting for television. Both manga and [6:28] televised anime function as serialized [6:30] long- form storytelling spread out for [6:33] weekly consumption. You can afford to [6:35] tell more compartmentalized stories [6:36] because that is how your audience is [6:38] intended to experience it. Lengthy [6:40] mid-fight flashbacks don't feel out of [6:42] place in this context because you can [6:44] luxuriate and take the time that you [6:46] need to bring each of these moments to [6:48] life. Movies, on the other hand, follow [6:50] a very different language and style of [6:52] storytelling. In some cases, this can [6:54] work out perfectly. I mean, case in [6:56] point, Demon Slayer's previous [6:57] theatrical release, Demon Slayer Kim [6:59] Noya Muggan Train, that worked extremely [7:02] well as a movie, and it felt like a [7:04] movie because in that instance, the film [7:07] is comprised of an entire arc of the [7:08] manga that also functions as a [7:10] satisfying self-contained narrative. And [7:13] remember, Infinity Castle is the first [7:15] of three movies intended to replace a [7:17] final season or seasons of the show to [7:20] close out the Demon Slayer series. The [7:22] scope of the story is so much larger [7:24] because it's not self-contained. Each [7:26] entry needs to build momentum as our [7:28] heroes race against time in this [7:30] labyrinthian pocket dimension. And while [7:32] it might make sense from a purist [7:34] standpoint to just split the remaining [7:35] chapters of the manga into three roughly [7:37] equal chunks to adapt into movies, [7:39] there's a strong argument to be made for [7:41] taking more creative liberties when it [7:42] comes to adapting the story. Now, one [7:45] aspect that makes the Demon Slayer anime [7:47] arguably superior to the manga is the [7:49] way in which it's always enhanced the [7:50] source material's artwork. The anime [7:52] takes rather broad and minimalist panels [7:54] and transforms them into breathtaking [7:56] sequences of animation. They fill in the [7:59] blanks with artistry and beauty in a way [8:01] that elevates the story. So why not take [8:03] the same creative interpretation when it [8:05] comes to the narrative itself. That's [8:07] not to suggest drastically changing the [8:09] core of the material. I mean, God knows [8:11] there's enough bad anime filler out [8:13] there. Rather, Demon Slayer: Infinity [8:15] Castle story could have been remixed in [8:17] a way that better complemented the [8:18] medium into which it was adapted. So, [8:20] what if instead of saving Akaza's [8:22] backstory until the end of the film, [8:24] Infinity Castle opened with it and wo it [8:27] throughout the entire movie? That way, [8:29] we slowly learn the tragic tale of how a [8:31] misguided young man looking for peace [8:34] transformed into one of the [8:35] bloodthirstiest demons known to man. [8:37] That would allow Infinity Castle to [8:39] establish more of a thematic throughine [8:41] before culminating in that epic final [8:43] fight. Likewise, the film might have [8:45] also benefited from intercutting these [8:47] individual stories in a more cohesive [8:49] way that made the overall structure of [8:51] the movie build on itself rather than [8:53] feeling like a series of separate peaks [8:55] and valleys. Now, none of this is to say [8:58] that the manga's original structure is [9:00] bad. It worked well for that medium, but [9:02] in the context of a feature film, it [9:04] feels like there are ways the story [9:06] could have been modified to make for a [9:08] better theatrical experience, much in [9:10] the way that a pros novel is really a [9:12] onetoone adaptation. Now, to site a more [9:14] recent example, the Dondadon Evil Eye [9:16] theatrical release, it was excellent [9:19] until the very end. It just kind of [9:20] abruptly rolls credits, and that was a [9:22] stark reminder. It's literally just [9:24] three episodes of the new season [9:25] stitched together on the big screen. [9:27] Maybe they would have been better served [9:28] by adapting the entire Cursed House arc [9:30] into a movie instead of leaving [9:32] audiences on tent hooks. And this idea [9:35] of being more loosey goosey with [9:37] adaptation feels increasingly important [9:39] because more and more anime movies are [9:41] getting large-scale theatrical releases. [9:43] Jiujutsu Kaisen Zero made over 160 [9:46] million worldwide, giving fans a [9:48] self-contained prequel that expanded on [9:50] the source material in ways that suited [9:52] the medium. This October, Chainsaw Man [9:55] returns after nearly 3 years with a [9:57] movie adaptation of the Resa arc, and it [10:00] sounds like it's going to offer a [10:01] self-contained story that propels the [10:03] larger narrative forward for an eventual [10:05] season 2 rather than feeling like it [10:07] trails off mid-sentence. Now, it won't [10:09] make Demon Slayer dollars, but its [10:11] success at the Japanese box office [10:13] already bodess well for anime fans [10:15] abroad. But then again, what do I know? [10:17] Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle has made [10:19] more than half a billion dollars [10:21] worldwide. Clearly, they're doing [10:23] something right. We just want them to do [10:25] it a little bit better. And next time, [10:28] I'll make sure to move back a few rows [10:29] because that was deeply unpleasant. When [10:32] the subtitles jumped to the top of the [10:33] screen, it was like reading skyriting. [10:36] Anyway, folks, there you have it. That's [10:38] the biggest problem I had with Demon [10:40] Slayer: Infinity Castle, apart from not [10:42] giving us enough Inoske. [10:47] [Music] [10:50] But at the end of the day, we love [10:52] anime. We love seeing it on the big [10:54] screen. And most of all, we really hope [10:56] we don't have to wait till 2027 to see [10:58] Demon Slayer 2: Infinity or Castle. But [11:01] tell us, what do you folks think? Did [11:03] you enjoy Infinity Castle? Do you agree [11:05] with our assessment? Can you think of [11:06] any other anime adaptations that were [11:08] better than the manga? Let us know in [11:10] the comments below. And for the latest [11:11] and greatest in the world of pop [11:13] culture, make sure you stay tuned to [11:14] nerdis.com. [11:16] [Music] [11:26] [Music]