--- title: 'Live SEO Q&A with James Gregory: Content, Links, and Client Strategies' source: 'https://youtube.com/watch?v=6s-KtUzCKR8' video_id: '6s-KtUzCKR8' date: 2026-07-14 duration_sec: 0 --- # Live SEO Q&A with James Gregory: Content, Links, and Client Strategies > Source: [Live SEO Q&A with James Gregory: Content, Links, and Client Strategies](https://youtube.com/watch?v=6s-KtUzCKR8) ## Summary In this live SEO Q&A, James Gregory and Charles discuss strategies for content creation, link building, local SEO, client acquisition, and PBN management. They emphasize quality over quantity, the importance of on-page optimization, and the need for natural link profiles. ### Key Points - **Content Hacks for Beginners** [00:00] — James recommends Grammarly Pro to improve cheap content, and suggests scholarship link building to get high-quality content and backlinks simultaneously. - **Content Length vs. Quality** [00:00] — Rather than writing longer posts than competitors, focus on user value, on-page optimization, and formatting (table of contents, rich media) to outrank longer content. - **Niche vs. Authority Sites** [00:00] — For review sites, it's better to focus on a specific product category or hobby rather than trying to build a massive authority site, which requires huge budget and links. - **Infographic Outreach** [00:00] — Infographic links still carry SEO value. Vary anchor text and diversify link types to avoid an unnatural link profile. - **WordPress Security** [00:00] — Change the default login URL to prevent automated attacks. Use a secure host like WP Engine that monitors for vulnerabilities. - **Expired Domains and PBNs** [00:00] — Age domains properly (2+ months) before linking out. Use archived content to make PBNs look real. Consider renting PBN links while aging your own. - **Local SEO Tips** [00:00] — Focus on citations, on-page optimization, reviews, and conversion rate optimization (clear CTAs, phone numbers above fold). Avoid overcomplicating with unnecessary tactics. - **Getting SEO Clients** [00:00] — Rank an 'SEO + city' agency site and buy PPC for that phrase. Also use local business events, trade shows, and personalized outreach (e.g., lumpy mail). - **Affordable Quality Links** [00:00] — Train a real person to engage in forums and Q&A sites. Use services like PBN Butler for citations and social signals. Avoid automated links. - **Diversifying Link Profile** [00:00] — Keep PBN links under 50% of total links. Build social profiles, directory links, and comment links early. Introduce PBNs slowly after a natural foundation. - **Finding Lucrative Affiliate Niches** [00:00] — Look at best-selling products on affiliate platforms, check how many SEOs target the keyword, and choose niches you're passionate about. Use real Amazon reviews for content. - **Google Dance and Toxic Domains** [00:00] — If a domain dances after low-quality link building, it may be penalized. Start fresh with a new domain and build links naturally. Avoid spun content and mass automated links. - **Keeping PBNs Powerful** [00:00] — Choose high-quality PBN domains from the start. Avoid building links to PBNs; instead, focus on strong tier 1 links. If needed, use cheap safe links to boost weaker PBNs. - **Outbound Links from PBNs** [00:00] — Up to 20 outbound links per PBN post is acceptable. Include random authority links (not just Wikipedia) and use real, relevant content to make PBNs look natural. - **Top On-Page Factors** [00:00] — Page title, H1s, and URL are key. Use side-by-side analysis tools like Internet Marketing Ninjas. Submit pages to Webmaster Tools to see quick ranking changes. ### Conclusion The video provides actionable SEO advice on content, link building, and client acquisition, stressing the importance of quality, analysis, and natural link profiles over shortcuts. ## Transcript hey guys welcome to episode number two of the live SEO Q&A with James Gregory here hi guys thanks for having me back on again Charles for the uh second half of our Q&A yeah it's been the first one went really well we had a lot of great feedback from that one so thought we'd do another one yet again um unfortunately I managed to drop my phone in the bath last night which basically means that I'm going to have to use a laptop here for uh the basically a Q&A version of this event so yeah any updates since like a week now yeah well thank you for all the uh great feedback on the infographic strategy um you guys asked about my actual tutorial for that well Neil patal is doing a really nice um post for you guys to get started which then I'll dissect and add my further insights on how to go ahead and scale it with the stuff I talked about last week um and generally we've just had loads more questions um which we'll go through and uh see what happens I think realistically we're going to have to do an episode number three of this because like we've we only managed to get about 15 or so questions onto this out of about 40 you guys asked in this and as always we always have the live chat questions as well that obviously it is a lot more of a priority to to ask the questions that people asked in the group before we go on to the live chat questions so hopefully we can get round to that and hopefully we can do another event soon because this one seems to be not having enough time basically answer the questions but without any further Ado let's kind of just jump into it um so the first question that we have comes from a user from the group called Jamie sambi and it is a two-part question or should I say of even three-part question and he asked hey guys and this is the first question where and how can beginners with a little investment get the best money content for the lowest price any secret hacks out there James my biggest hack for Content would be investing in grammarly Pro mhm which is literally £100 for the year and it's ridiculous because what it does is you can past lowquality article say a Philippine uh quality article for $5 500 Words that kind of quality or even cheaper I've seen some people get and it basically goes through and spell checks every single thing for you and gives you suggested improvements and suggested words for it to be grammatically correct so by investing in that you can literally put in rubbish cheap content and then have a higher quality English vaa for example you spend five minutes clicking and you know Pro reading So grammarly Pro is a must and then just generally finding high quality vas that are that can produce sound English and then obviously you know running it through Gramm I'd say that's my biggest hack um in terms of getting it for the lowest price because you're getting it for the lowest price but then you're improving the quality by using grammarly I think there's a big disconnect of getting really high quality English content for a really cheap price because realistically people who speak read and write English their living expenses in that country are much higher so it's unrealistic to expect really cheap content um I don't know about you Charles um as was kind of well gam is a really good tool I use it as well actually and I use their browser extension which kind of shows me all yeah I have brow extension which means I actually when I'm editing live WordPress documents and things it can show me that stuff um and that kind of helps quite a lot considering I'm just like anyway and and also there's another kind of hack around that as well um a lot of people have been doing scholarship link building recently and what you can actually do is offer a English scholarship language kind of program for $1,000 and I recently did one with a client and we had 160 entries of uh people submitting over a thousand words per person for $1,000 so you have 160 thw articles of like English student level content for people who studying English at like American universities as well as also getting all the scholarship back links from all the university sites as well so it kind of is killing two birds one stone there um and number two as well from Jamie as well says content seems to be getting out of hand now if the number one Ser has 5,000 words we would need to write 6,000 words looking two years in the future this becomes un unmanageable and also very very user friendly as a 10,000 word post become the normal what do you think I've got you know two opinions on this people say that um you have to have more content than the guy the guy below you but that's just one ranking factor and if you have higher quality content you know you've run it through grammar it reads exactly what this person's searching for so it offers value to the user there's a good chance that yours is going to rank higher than the longer form content whereas some people assume that you can just do 6,000 words that doesn't make sense at all just Sid stepping around the subject you know we've had some really funny examples in the group around this topic um about people going to say how a certain product was you know introduced into the market and stuff when really you just want the best reviews on that product yeah so I think you need to focus on the user and just meet in the middle and average so the top 10 get an average of who the content um of what the content length is and then simply build to that average with your focus being how can I provide the most value for that specific term and make it nice and easy to read easy to digest because obviously that content you don't want it to be really like gibberish and then what you said before in your course about using a table of contents plugin yeah format data yeah use formatted data and actually break it up to where you can actually Target more longtail phrases um that's relevant to that query so you're not just writing gibberish so I think it's a little bit meat in the middle don't startop making these crazy long posts and don't um and don't make just a you know really brief post so it's kind of meat in the middle I think it's kind of uh obviously if you go into a niche and you see the number one page has 800 words and it's very easy to just outscale that person straight away yeah um but obviously if you're going into a niche and you're going versus some 10,000w University dissertation kind of degree level content then obviously you just want to basically make your on page better so like like you said with t content plus any kind of format to dat to so like alt tags on images and like just basically making your on page significantly better than your competitors you don't necessarily need to you know completely outscale them by thousand so so rather than focusing on content on content length you can go ahead and actually look at other aspects of your on page and then you know things like your page title your H1s your H2S table of contents plug in um rich media Like You videos yeah rich media um so by focusing on those you don't have to really start doing these gibberish 10,000 word posts yeah and you know you can make you can make your site better um and use the other SEO factors get some higher quality links get link volume in the mix so you kind of have to kind of yeah make sure you're analyzing the properly before you kind of just try and jump in head first yeah but I think writing it for the user and not writing gibberish is probably the best way to go on that yeah 100% okay so next question comes from Josephine Anderson um you doing a review for l site is it better to focus down on one Niche and cover everything about that Niche or create a review site that just reviews everything not just one Niche like the w t.com best reviews.com bestproducts.com Etc so basically is it better to go for a really Niche specific website and become an author that Niche or is it better to try and be an overall Authority like Wikipedia for example yeah I think we spoke about this briefly last week where we basically said the best thing to do is to choose a specific uh product category if you will um where you can do lots of um review pages around that specific uh activity if it's hunting for example to do website about hunting rather than trying to do a massive Authority website because when it comes to link building and when it comes to actually ranking the thing you just Spread Way Too Thin on content and on backlinks that you can't really get those those rankings to actually make money um like if you're going to go for one of these best reviews.com websites or Y cut websites you're going to need like 200k on content 200k on PS to even compete so I think it's meeting in the middle don't Niche down to EMD or single product but make an authority in that specific hobby industry that you're interested in and and all all those three websites are actually owned by corporations as well I think best products.com is owned by Cosmo or something you know the magazine company yeah um so obviously they have the budget and they have probably the links in place already because they own all these different kinds of websites that they can easily just link back which is actually something Glen from.com kind of oued them for for using a lot of their magazines yeah I remember that was really interesting yeah um okay so the next question comes from Conrad Razzle Razo um when doing infographic Outreach does having the same content infographic and intro with link back to your site have a detrimental effect because the content isn't unique on each Target site or doesn't it matter the link counts anyway I think if you're going to uh write something alongside the infographic like I spoke about earlier about how each email I change around the code um that's probably the best way to do it but realistically that form of Link building is sharing an image and it does carry weight in the back link obviously it would be better if it was a 500 2,000w article back to your website but infographics still do carry some weight and you can leverage the relevance a little bit by putting that embed code in there and maybe putting a 100 to 200 words the trouble with trying to jam articles into that is someone's going to look at this code and be like what the hell they're trying to paste all this content here where it's really a more sneaky tactic where here's the infographic if you want to check out the website that provided the infographic here's the link you're doing it from more that approach and you know if you're getting loads of these um that's a very legitimate form of Link building you do get good SEO value from it um so to answer your question the links do still count um comrade um yeah yeah I think actually um if you're I think you should kind of mix up as well so you try and diversify yeah when you're actually linking so for example if you're doing what you said about the different anext underneath the image I think sometimes you should actually just use the image as a link as well yeah um and then you can also use the image title as the anext so you can change up the image typle so that when you're of sending it out it's all different kinds of ined and I think with any kind of scalable link building you have to be careful because you can go out there and get 200 infographic links but your elink profile is literally just infographic so I think having some kind of diversity and using these tactics alongside other tactics is a must instead of just focusing down because you get people nowadays that just try and rank with only pbns yeah which might work now but you know in the future it might not works so screw it over to be honest yeah um okay the next question comes from KL duin who basically asks how do you go about securing WordPress sites which is probably actually something that a lot of people are interested in and I have actually seen like quite a rise in questions yeah in the gr people asking a lot of questions I think the most secure thing you can do which will get rid of 90% of Wordpress acts is to change your WP login URL which you can with a free plugin and you literally change the url to something else and then when those automated spammers come and try and denyer service attack you they can't even access your login page so that's probably the number one tip you can do which people Overlook people think just install word fence but changing your login you know all the security plugins um and you know it could be going deeper and actually ensuring using a secure host yeah that's what I was going to say I use WP engine and as soon as you upload like a vulnerable Plugin or if you don't update a plugin that's vulnerable they'll either just straight delete it or yeah yeah they'll email you saying that they deleted this plug um or they will email you and say look your plugin here so that's actually a great tip if you guys are using obviously we're all using Wordpress um to go with a host that actively monitors your website and ensures that it's not getting hacked because too many times people make these websites they'll scale them out they'll make loads of money and then they'll wonder why suddenly it's being hacked and you neglect it so if you have your hosting company actually monitoring your website that's a great tip it's a bit more expensive to use WP engine but I I think they're probably like the best WordPress on the planet right now to be honest um the next post next question sorry comes from Xander degr which is one of the most amazing names I've ever heard it sounds like something Galaxy it's awesome name um hi guys about how about your comment about the basically basically Matt digity released the post about expired domains and he basically said that you should wait yeah he basic said that you should wait 36 days between getting a pbn live in an expire domain and then linking out to one of your money sites because he saw negative results from linking out straight away but he also saw he saw positive results basically from waiting and do you think you have any insight into that kind of what I think is really getting at um which a few people might feel is that do expire domains still work yeah and it's kind of like what do we personally feel about it and you know I've always built out pbns with 10,000 words I've got content from the archive pasted it all up before linking out anyway yeah and I think you guys should be doing this as standard you should be aging your pbn you should be testing them on random websites before you use it um and the only real insights I can give is to just build your pbn up properly to look like real s which you guys should have been doing I think the days of throwing up thin websites directly for just linkoln defa WordPress themes yeah I think like people are still stuck in that 2012 mindset which is amazing that only now Google are catching on to this it just really shows how ahead of the game we are and the fact the group was cated 2014 and we were advising since then to make pbn's properly it's only now 2017 and Google is literally looking at pbn's and saying look you're not getting SEO value you're going to get Negative SEO value if if you're making this just for links yeah I've actually uh been using a bit of a technique recently where I scraped the archive and put uh the archived content at the top of the site yeah and then underneath I put a WordPress blog but it's all it all just looks at one page so you basically yeah so so you make the site look for the first bit as the real site and then underne you make your blog underneath it um and that's a pretty see well it seems so so people wanted to do that what they'd have to do is recreate the website in WordPress redirect all the pages and then with the pages they set up throw their Links at the bottom and yeah exactly and then also in relation to expired domains as well um overall I do think that expired domains have actually been getting weaker um just because it's a very easy way for Google to retarget things if not getting weaker then Google have been sandboxing the domains for a certain amount of time which is what digity is getting at yeah um and I do think the 36 day Mark maybe a bit too soon in fact to be honest from some of my tests I've actually had to wait you know I think think you should realistically wait two months or so yeah well well some domains obviously work quicker some domains work faster but Google has to have that time to basically re figure out well it has to have a set amount time to refigure out what that new site is now about yeah even if you're doing the if even if you're doing Wayback content that is very very much the same most expired domains that you'll be picking up won't have had a site on it for at least a few weeks up to a few months and uh just registering it it's basically Google saying it's a brand new brand new domain um so that's why all my pbn recently for the last year plus or so have just been age domains like I haven't used any so what that question would then um bring up from from the answer would be to how do we build links for our clients if our pbn's take two months to kick in yeah so you know and if if Xander was to ask that I would say that you can still just buy other people's pbn's you can just rent pbn links and you know if you get an SEO client and you can do results for very cheap for really cheap by doing simple things like buying load of citations doing on page changes and then literally just drop in you know a a couple dollars a month on rented pbn links and then slowly age out your pbns and then months months three you can start building links to the site yeah um obviously after you've tested it so I don't want people to think oh pbn's don't work anymore you know we're all doomed just simply you know rent links do on page changes get those quick wins you know there's a lot people Overlook with on page um and I'd recommend digity guid for this I I read the updated version it's really yeah really really good just do that on your client's website get a l of citations rent a very few number of pbn links and then three months down the line all your pbns are aged you've tested them and they're ready to go I I do think that a lot of people actually Overlook uh especially in the first month whenever I've done client SEO and I still do client SEO for clients now um when we do it we we spend like the first month analyzing everything mean we analyze all the on Page look for any on page because on page is just time consuming it doesn't cost any money and for the majority of people who are just getting started in Cent SEO or have just got a few C it could be near instant as well because you can just submit the pages and Web Master tools and you can instantly see the changes in Google you can refresh the rank tracker the client will look at it the next day be like only we've only been an SEO client for a week and we suddenly just shot up in the Surs onay generally takes a lot less amount of time than back links do nowadays yeah so if there's a more focus on on page then I think you guys won't worry about having to wait two months for links you know we can rent links from other great providers in bhc pbn Marketplace uh for example um and you can have great results like that um and and also if you are actually building out pbns as well um I want to make it clear as well that a lot of people who start doing client SEO eventually just do client SEO to build that Capital so that they can move into affiliate or into their own websites I think if you're actually going to try and if you want to do that and that's your long-term plan and you're building these pbns don't just go for General Niche pbns try and get clients in the niche that you eventually want to be in because number one it makes it a lot more fun when you're working on a project that you actually have some form of passion for um but number two it makes it a hell of a lot easier down the line when you have a year old pbn of Niche relevant s that you can then use for your own product and it's a much easier to sell if you know the market you know the numers because then you can upsell other services is where you know you you'll get actual value especially if you're a consumer of that particular product that they offer exactly 100% okay the next question comes from the infamous David Paul he asks hey ladies love the game hle J James have you got any top tips for local SEO please uh top tips for local SEO it's funny because I did a I did a great post on this in 2014 like still relevant today which literally all it says is build citations nail your on page get some really good reviews get some um citations you know PBM Butler I recommend um and literally realistically everything else that people over complicate things with um you don't really need to do um I still just go with the essentials get them on the maps and just build a few pbn links yeah I feel as if there's a new market and Niche to all these crazy extras that you need to do like uh making all your images have locational exi data and things which I guess could work I personally haven't tested and went to those extremes I I think it's just taking it too far I understand when you're doing like leio for something like you know like lawyer in New York or something some like massive loc Glo keod because that's not traditional loc Glo when you're doing like plumber in a village that has 5,000 people it doesn't really need to be there was one guy and he'd actually got a digital camera he enabled the location and he retook every single photo on the client's website just so he'd have real location data on camera to put on the you know in that time we could have built 10 pbn outranked everyone so I think I think again though like said the last question it's Bas stick to the basics and then do the things so the basics are the things that are going to provide results straight away then all those little things like the ex data and things and all the schema markup and things but I still think that is more focused towards bigger local keyword the majority of people who are ranking local websites aren't going to be going for a local keyword that has five month I feel as if it's almost like the if thing where you're just doing things at screens I'm a professional SEO we're trying to gain the system we're not a real business yeah we're literally just doing the most unnatural things possible on our website to try and rank higher in Google yeah when really Google just want to see you know beautiful websites that serve the users's query um and and the majority of like local websites have like that's what I mean that's what I was going to gone about in the last question I was talking a lot about analysis and again even if it's a $500 a month client you need to do analysis so many people just think okay I can have this set formula and this set formula will work for every single one of my clients trust me it won't work for every single one of your clients and eventually even if it works for the first few clients whatever eventually you're going to run into a client that is going to be the biggest pain in your ass you can ever imagine yeah because they're just going to flip the roof when nothing works um and that's why analysis and kind of research is really important even if even like said just 500 bucks on CLI generally you'll be able to find a lot of quick wins that kind that actually save you money yeah I think definitely getting you guys focused on on page just as a little side tangent some of the people that buy links from me literally they have the default titles on their webs you just say home about like on their money page literally says home and then the client's name yeah so literally I say change change the title and then I send them the link and give them a few on page changes all of wow these links are amazing I'm number one when realistically if they would have changed their title it would have been number one so they been building link some months and still haven't nailed the on page so top tips for local SEO master your on page in general um and analyze the top 10 surfs there's really good tools out there for example internet marketing inas where you can do side by side analysis of websites and you can see every single El every single SEO element and you can then see where you fall short and compare yourself to the top ensure you've got the basics nailed and then obviously eventually go on to the extra trimmings and remember even if your client site is already getting some traffic already um you can just generally it doesn't matter about the traffic doesn't matter about the ranking a lot of clients will want to see the ranking but if they're getting phone calls and they're getting emails then they don't really care so much as long as they're getting those phone calls email yeah so just doing cro just doing some basic conversion optimization I've I've done consultancy work with clients that have shown me websites and these websites the phone number isn't above the fold they have like they have like a tiny little that's actually a great Point probably one of the biggest tips for local SEO wouldn't be actually ranking it ranking it would easy it would be to get the leads in get the phone calls going too many bro like brochure websites with no clear call to actions if you guys want to see a really good website search righto um plumber Manchester Rao if you search that and go on their website there's literally four or five call to actions really nice polite non- intrusives and really big nicely placed phone numbers on the website that's a perfect example of you know and that's probably one of the top tips for local SEO really make sure the website is set up to actually convert into leads and phone calls and you know the rest will fall into place if the SEO is good and especially if because it takes quite a lot for people nowadays to trust websites as well and obviously they're going to trust the Yelps they're going to trust the Google SE Etc they might not necessarily trust a website that doesn't have an sell certificate that might not necessarily trust anything like that so you so doing cro just even basic cro actually can have a massive Improvement on your client's site anyway let's move on to the uh next question we have from Jason louder what's the best strategy for getting new clients should I go with a SEO plus City agency site should I invest in generating leads organically or should I save the money and start with Facebook so I've paid answer to a funnel I really like this question because what he's done is he's done the most traditional ways of getting clients you know um doing the SEO and City website investing um generating leads organically and then actually doing Facebook ads and paid ads to a funnel I think an even more effective way would be to do the SEO and City agency and actually buy PPC traffic specifically looking for SEO and City to your landing page because realistically if it's a pound a click and you're spending 250 pound to acquire a client they could become, pound client 2,000 pound client so out the gate I think SEO and City agency and paying for that specific phrase while ranking it organically is probably one of the best ways you know if you have a lot of capital to just get a load of clients in really yeah and and to extend that as well what you can actually do is um try and get all the areas and all the zip codes for all your location and put SEO plus that because generally all the little Villages or the little towns are going to be a lot cheaper on your PBC budget then but obviously they're going to have a lot lower but they're going to be a lot cheaper to get those Clicks in than they are going to be going only takes five minutes to make a new landing page change those and optimize it for the paid ads too many people are making these SEO City websites just brocher websites no clear call to action or pricing just the most vague um vague wording when really if you're going to send paid traffic or any traffic for that matter it has to be a page where they're ready to call and start the SEO campaign or at least raise some questions so they have a reason to call you can actually do a geolocation based funnel so if you make a landing page and someone visits it from New Jersey it can you can physically make that page change to where their location is based and you can make it change to saying SEO New Jersey rather than SEO New York something um and that becomes a lot easier to then just funel track but I do I do think he shouldn't really go through the trouble of making a fun things I think he should focus on SEO and City website first ranking that on the first page of Google and then paying for that traffic on PPC and seeing how it performs and then eventually going on with a paid ads funnel because I think with that funnel it's more Are you a is this so we can get you more leads and phone calls and you don't actually mention SEO and it's more putting them through the funnel eventually closing them yeah when there's people already search an SEO agency in the city and things so if you can capture those people first use that as a way to get clients and then maybe build out a funnel but the most important thing is ranking at least on the first page for SEO City agency yeah 100% And and also um there's so many other ways like be creative with how we going to go and get lead go to your local Cham of Commerce and office to do a free talk and on pageo go and do anything you can to build Network that's actually a great strategy in your friendship group as well there's going to be a lot of people in your friendship group that will either own businesses themselves or actually be connected to people own one thing that I know people will uh struggle with and then feel a little bit shy about is how to actually find your local chamber of Converse and find local business events and obviously being a stranger at those can to be a little bit scary but if you go to Eventbrite and you actually search for business events in your local area you'll find trade Expos where you can ask to speak at you'll find uh obviously the local Chamber of Commerce meetings with clear invites and people to speak to so you'll be able to actually get the proper invite to attend there and you get a nice warm welcome get an opportunity to present and you know the success rate to which you can actually get people on board from those are really really good when I previously worked at white hat SEO agency and I did a presentation we literally we're like Superstars at the end with people just bombarding us with questions throwing money at us to sort out the we websites it was ridiculous um and a great strategy for that that I learned from uh cotton grammar is to actually have a business card with your business name and say we'll set up your uh social media accounts for say 25 501 pound um and get you on social media and the digital age say something along those lines and by doing that you'll set up their profiles for that small entry fee and as they've already given you money and trusted that you've delivered a product it's then very easy to say say look you want to try out A month's SEO with us we really think you can benefit yeah so using that as a foot in the door and then warming them up and then you know getting in contact with them after they've seen the results of you actually delivering a a a clear you know Facebook page and things you know to us it seems so trivial Facebook page but to a business owner who's who's doesn't really know about that and they just know they've got a website and especially if you get good graphics for it and everything as because they just mosters w't have a single idea of how to make cover photo that looks really good apart from Googling cover photo in my industry yeah and it's very easy for you to just get a a graphic River template and just get a VA fulltime so then just go and Hammer out 20 of these and you've got 20 really warm leads to then sell SEO to so I think trade shows um a very good way again going to Eventbrite looking for local events in your area um and then speaking to those people that arrang them so you get a really nice formal invite and you can get you can present there and generally the people at these places that just like you they business owner they're business owners themselves they're actually going just to get business themselves so you can actually do a trade of services um which is always cool and you the thing is if you acquire someone like that they're all they're like a hub of more clients yeah that's say they're yeah so you make friends with one guy who's only 500 pound in client but he goes to lots of trade events he has lots of contacts he has a 300 client lists to which you've told him that if you get me a client I'll give you A1 pound referral fee or I'll give you you know 10% of the of of of the CLI retain well yeah that's if if you can Target accountants financial planners uh business solicitors those kind of things they all have clients yeah that are massively in loads different na things and that is literally the best way to kind of get referrals people and and some of those people might find it a bit weird if you're just giving them money because obviously um you know it's a little bit Taboo in certain industries what you can say you can say is we'll offer you more services is free of charge just at Cost um for bringing us more people and that that can also work as well um if they bring you 10 clients you go ahead and buy buy them a load of pbn links you know build out some really high quality placements for them grow business as well yeah and then just one last thing um I think too many people have focused on cold emailing um which is a good strategy in itself um and I do recommend doing but you must be really specific and you must take the time out to go out there and if it's hireing clients specifically make videos analyzing their websites take your time to learn their names I know it's really intense but you guys will will notice a really high increase in replies if it's just them one generic email blast of hundreds of businesses if you're taking the time out to make really tailored emails which you can do with mail merge and still do it B bulk you can land clients that way but again because you've contacted them it's a little bit harder to convert whereas if you were paying for that traffic for SEO City and agency they are literally looking for a local SEO agency so that is a much warmer lead um and one thing I did learn from uh Sam ens course which is Lumpy mail and I know sending things in the in the post you know informational things really personalized things with you know funny little things like shattering teeth if you send it to a dentist um that is also a great way and again it's very cost effective um but I would do that around the same price as just buying for SEO in agency if it costs you a couple of pound to post this out that's how much it's gon to cost you in a click to get this SEO client so yeah I liked what Gabriel mest I think shout out to him he did a he did a tool where basically uh he automated uh taking the second page of Google for keywords taking a picture of the website Mak making an image yeah I saw that was automatically generated PDFs but I thought if you could take that to one next level you can make them into postcards and then print them out and send them automatically which obviously you can't send them automatically but if you can print out postcards on double-sided paper obviously it becomes a bit more expensive things but I thought You' take that to the next level I think them actually having a physical product where there's something in there they can bring around the office and have a really good joke around it yeah if you then to actually walk into that office again or follow up an email follow her up with a call they'll be like oh you that guy who sent us that really funny thing everyone in the office was laughing for ages at this you know it's much more uh it's a much better interaction that you've actually took the time out to learn their business and you know interact with them and send them something um I'd stay away from sending candy or chocolate I know there's one guy he was sending stuff in the post and he had some legal issues where someone had received a chocolate bar and obviously they thought it was some kind of like poison thing and he got in loads of trouble for that said don't send don't send chocolate bars or or sweets in the post don't get arrested by the blood DRC something um okay so the next question comes from Matthew Mary shout out to Matthew I Met You in uh I met you in um actually the road what what is the most affordable way to get quality pillow links do you have any SEO firms that you can recommend I think PBM Butler their social signals their citations regardless of your website type great yeah um but I think realistically pillow links you need to train an actual person to interact I know we spoke about this last week you need to train a real person to interact and and actually ask real questions in Google what people in your industry what they're asking to go on and answer them and Link back to your website I think you to actually interact with people in your industry on where they hang out whether it's forums question answer websites um blog posts where you can actually comment on and leave a branded post a branded comment link or you know whoever your website is a link back to your website that way um I wouldn't go the route of if social bookmarks Fiverr I yeah anything that can be automated I'd stay away away from you know for me 2017 it's only links that can actually be created by a real human being and have some sort of legitimacy so things like citations and social signals I I actually know a really good company called in Valley they're a Dutch company yeah um and they do Q&A how to review video image e-commerce like tons of different kinds of Link types and they all they are quite expensive so I think it's like $150 for 10 Q&A links but these Q&A links are actually genuinely actually took the time out to do that if worth just investing in that seeing what type of strategies they're employing then maybe well they give examples on their site so if you want to if you want toly look at the footprints and actually go ahead and train someone up to do that yeah that's that's literally what we did don't see me uh yeah so I think we can go into the next question now this is from Ivan Hernandez how do you know when it is too much of a link type like age R from knows or when it doesn't seem natural do you mimic back blink profiles of the top five or are there any are there any rules to solve this issue well for me personally I don't really use aged Web 2.0 so I would never have that issue like pbn links Outreach links you can never really do too many because that's the main I think you can do too many pbn links and I think you can I think a lot of people only do pbn links which is where the because if all of your back links are coming from WordPress contextual homepages it's a bit of a signal to Google that you're probably going to especially when that website only links to you and Wikipedia and YouTube and every single post has a sidebar with like BBC News and stuff kind of starts to paint and picture you it's so easy for them to look at the these are the smartest machine learning algorithms on the planet piring some crazy things sending people to the moon and things building self-driving cars I think they can spot what a pbn is yeah but for me I think it would just be the magic number in my head would be at least you know if the pbns are more than 50% of my link profile I need to take a step back especially if I'm building like a 100 citations 50 natural blood comments and Q Q&A industry links that type of thing if I'm suddenly building more pbns and all of that then there's a serious problem um but I think you can diversify diversify straight away at the start you can diversify like you can build social profiles you can build directory links you can build comment links all that right at the start that are either very cost effective yeah or just very easy to build just High nicely what we spoke about earlier about how do we actually rank if the pbns aren't working for a few months which is obviously go out and purchase all of these and build a really nice framework so that Google Sees okay this person just do normal natural link building that other white hat SEO agencies do because they don't know what pbn's are and then all of a sudden you slowly start introducing pbn's Outreach links and I'm using mainly Outreach links now pbns are mainly 25% of My overall strategy because I really do think it's important that you have web websites from that don't have as strong websites as large as strong stats as large websites to actually diversify where you're get getting your links from it kind of looks a bit weird if all your links are just from a specific type and specific size um I do recommend you know small pbn sites and stuff mixing a few links in there and again having a page exactly what you're trying to rank for is a really strong signal will always be to be honest if you can control what's what's going to be posted up so yeah well great com that the next question comes again from Matthew oh no sorry this is Matthew Marley not Matthew Mary always get these two confused um what's the best way to find lucrative affiliate niches I think the best way to find lucrative affiliate niches is to just look at your actual platform and look at the best performing products you know in terms of sales in terms of search volume search volume and then I know this is interesting what you do is you actually Google the search C and look at how many Affiliates are actually go after the phrase this is what I learned from mat Dicky um which is basically look at how many other seos are going for that keyboard if there's lots of seos going for it then there's a good chance that they're making money from it so you would want to go ahead and go for it and the word lucrative does kind of mean if it's lucrative other seos are going to be going for it anyway so that's a very safe bet but generally that's such a broad question that really there's not much house apart from looking at your platform of what to promote um I guess you can start looking at what you're actually into stuff that's expensive that would have a good payout yeah what you're into is probably the best one really yeah because the entire point of doing is from working at home online and SEO is to be like having fun like you you don't want the entire point is you don't want to be sitting in a 9 to-5 office job bored out your mind yeah and that is exactly why SEO becomes a lot more fun if like I said earlier if you're doing things that you're genuinely interested in and a lot a lot of hobbies there is a massive Market out there and generally if it's a hobby that you have a lot of knowledge about then it can not only mean that you'll actually probably have a lot higher conversion rate because you're not just talking about because you can edit articles that people have wrote and actually about what you're talking about in comparison to a lot of Affiliates probably in that market I do see that I'll go on a website and I'll see the comment section on that post is people slaughtering the hell out the review because it's so obvious that a VA has just Googled Googled these products just chose random products and said these ones are the best or look at the Amazon bestsellers yeah and they've just done the most randomst reviews ever and it makes no sense to someone that actually knows the product and it just kills conversions so if you know more about the product that is probably the best way to find a lucrative nich so it's more finding the best highest performing um highest cost products in whatever you're interested in but I had is I've had an issue where um there's I want to scale past my interests because I have very specific interest and obviously if you want to make 25 websites and stuff and you want to make them around a specific thing you might not actually be interested in it a good tip is to find someone that is interested in it that's also a writer and get them to write for you but take it a step further and actually look at real Amazon reviews of each product and look at the most helpful reviews Amazon have already told you which is the most helpful reviews people actually bought the product people who have bought the product and other people that have agreed with that review and voted it up so if you look at the highest rated reviews that are positive the highest NE rated negative you can see correlations from people who have actually used the product and that's a kind of little hack for you to actually enter these niches not interested in and still make content that's someone will actually genuinely um be able to use appreciate yeah because I think people just throw up these review websites and there's just gibberish on them just specifically to get click out yeah they make the website so bad and ugly that you don't want to stay on there for too long you want to go straight to Amazon which is a could be a good tactic but I think for those switched on people that actually know about these products that are going on to read a genm review and your website somehow ranks they're going to be really annoyed and they're not going to click out and they're going to leave them really bad comments which are just I'm which is probably going to become even more of a factor in the coming years for Google yeah yeah okay so the next question comes from vimal parash um or parash uh I am working on an affiliate site and build a few types of links for my homepage then move the money page and build a few pbn links uh last year and this year build expired Tums and brand new everyone knows and some have one and some have two and three articles spun content us Rel to Brand into more information question pretty that really easy to digest question dancing after a month some sometimes five P please basically he's asking go he he's been building links uh to this site and they're coming from a few pbn links a few Social Links a few tumbler links from expired tumblers like said earlier um what can you do effectively to combat the Google dance because it's jumping all over the place from like page three to four to five back to three all that kind of stuff so he's actually saying that he's using spun content on these links as well I think he's using spun content on his uh on his brand new I think the problem um V with your campaign is literally there's no variables that he could actually control and pinpoint what is causing the Google dance what is causing the issues he using really low quality link building and it's mainly spun content yeah so it's very hard to say ah um all you have to do is build a couple high quality links and all of a sudden it'll be sorted out because you might be getting hurt from using you know purely spin content links and he's using a mixture of expired and brand new webs so it's probably likely the thing is Web 2.0 themselves aren't inherently bad because people still use those platforms and they do generally link to real websites but it's like this is all he's done so his link profile is really low quality apart from a few pbn links um but he's just been building mainly expired tumblers and brand new web 2.0's and you know it Google's really not stupid anything that can be scaled and done in Mass they're going to penalize you for so to go ahead and do that end spun content you're kind of asking for trouble there so you know the routes going from fifth page to third but still Google dancing um sometimes it goes to fifth page and back to fourth page please advise me what to do now to be honest if he's done all those PBM links it's a very easy phrase we don't know what the phrase is yeah he should be at least on page two and he should be stable the fact that it's dancing all over the place you know I automatically assume that somewhere there's some sort of penalty in the mix and all that's happening all that's happening but you know this website's years old oh yeah oh yeah all that's happening is literally it's bouncing as Penguins refreshing in and out of this you know horrible um penalty that he's in and it's not you know I would advise to register register a few fresh domains age domain go after the same phrase and I guarantee they will rank higher than this B out domain that he has yeah I can I can guarantee that um it'll be considerably easier so for us to say what what you're going to do now well go out and try and rank to that phrase on a different domain if you have another website guarantee if you made a page that career it would rank higher than where you are when you're dancing third fourth fifth personally from you know when I've tried expire domains and things the domain is toxic yeah yeah yeah you can actually create this this is actually I was speaking to Daniel cut about this yeah um and he basically has this new Dom it's not new it's a year and seven months old but right at the start of this Dom um he started just building some like directory links to it and that kind of stuff and even though a lot of those links are actually removed now um he just can't rank this site actually all he just like put some content on it he he is trying to expand the content get some more kind of more like hyper Authority links to it and stuff um but it's just created this kind of bias against this domain gole has against it because it's just started off so badly in its early life that it's not giving Google any kind of trust Factor at all in the domain it's almost as if you have to just you know build naturally in a way what would a natural website do you know with all the initial um social profiles you know uh citations and then slowly add in so what I what I do is I would wait till month three to then start building the more power links while I've got a stable Foundation um and it's as if if you start going erratic with all these links and things you're going to get uh you're going to get sandbox and there's I've had issues where I've tried to rank a domain no matter what I do it just won't go past page three yeah even if it's a brand new domain and it leads me to believe that there's some sort of random ranking factor or there something that I must have triggered or done some kind of filter that has just made the domain not rank but you Google classic has spamming on yeah or or even like well I think that Google has got something built into it algorithm that will that will basically say to Google that this domain is either used by spammers or it's used by hackers or something so it's just not a good domain I feel as if you know when the domain's okay when it's a very steady increase so it's not showing at all the one of a sudden it's it's slowly moving up and then it just stays around you know four or five positions no matter what you do to it and then as soon as you start links it starts slowly Rising I know it's it's around the page two Mark I think Matt Dy has some data on this as well where you know realistically if you're building links and things and you have it for a while if it's not on there it's pretty safe bet to say that that domain is toxic and it's never going to rank um and I think or at least it's going to take a really big amount of investment to be able to get to be able to get the trigger off of it that Google actually it's like Google will audition you take you to page two and see if it performs and see what kind of you know what kind of Link building you do as a result of it going higher and there's like some kind of filter that just says no and we're never going to rank you and you know on those ones I've just said look I I don't want to do this anymore I don't want to you know link build on this domain or try and rank this domain and that's the beauty of having control over all your back blinks with pbns and things you can literally just switch them to to a different domain you remove the article put a brand new article on the new website and then all of a sudden the new domain ranks like poker you'll H your bets yeah yeah you'll be a gambler but you know I don't want I don't want what we're saying to put people off building websit and things building brand new websites because it's very rare and in my personal experience is because I've bought domains from GoDaddy I've checked sish history they actually ranked at some point and then I've noticed penguin when penguin first got introduced it just dropped off and I was like oh okay maybe this is why the domain is toxic so it is worth doing a little bit of Investigation doing way back semrush Majestic history AR history and seeing if there's any toxic links that have ever been built and if you know seus is a TRC thing as soon as penguin came up then it's bad yeah so the next question is from Lloyd Farrell and he asks um I'd like to know how do you keep your pbns powerful do you continue to send Links at them I personally try to stay away from building links to pbns purely because the type of links that I would build to websites and pbn in general are not scalable yeah so I would most refer to choose a really high quality pbn link uh pbn domain from the start that is not going to suffer crazy link loss if it's refering dos and you have 20% link l there's not going to be many referring Doms at the end of it whereas if it's got 100 referring domains after a couple of years it might still have 90 might still have 80 so you have yeah you need to you know keep on top of it and the funny thing is sometimes they've actually had domains and they've increased in back links so what's happened is some of the links that they had were offline themselves and they've come back online and then Majestic has refreshed and then the stats have gone up um I I think yeah like like you said yeah make sure you kind of the only thing I would send is those you know those pbns where they're cheap and they're locked down but they're not so toxic that you know they could hurt your website yeah um there's a few providers you know think people like Tod Foster Nomes and things where those pbns are relatively safe to tier two your Outreach links and tier two your really high quality pbn links but in general we wouldn't advise you to go out there and start building links in Mass yeah um I know GSA has been mentioned a few few times people are sending like 400 naked URL links and saying that this works even though because they're naked URL it's not going to trigger [ __ ] yeah it's not it's not going to work guys Google sees that very spammy link building practice and you're just tainting that really nice natural backlink profile with really age trusted links with a load of manually with a load of um automatically generated horrible spammy links that Google knows are used for spam yeah 100% so we would literally advise to not really link build to pbn and if you have have to opt for something like cheaper pbn links that are still relatively safe and maybe things like safe links yeah may like maybe if if if the domain isn't as powerful for example if you have to use an expired domain and your budget isn't massive building pbn sites and stuff then it can be pretty good idea to get the inner post URL and just build two sa Links at it or something yeah just to make that pbn link a bit more powerful whil it's not breaking the bank because it'll only cost you a dollar $2 something to build that safe yeah so it's yeah it's and it does work especially if you've got like a 100 pbn links if you're just building like two Links at each pbn because then it works out to around 200 links um yeah that are strengthen up those so it does work but realistically I would put all my efforts in focus into building a really nice tier one yeah exactly yeah directly to your website as high quality as possible using Outreach links using pbn links and focus on those don't focus on how you can make your resistant assets more powerful because if you start going into you ift networks and press releases all this spam it's just you're just ruining a really nice link profile that Google loves yeah why why even ruin your pbn domains if pbn domains are made for the SEO benefit and you should be in niches where the ROI is okay for you to just let that go in a couple years when it's got like no links and then to just replace with a more powerful one CH PBM yeah um okay so I have actually been trying to uh prepare to say this name now this is the most liked comment um so this most liked question out of all of them Santiago Patricio taffanel I hope I got that right um because that has taking me a while to try and figure that one out um how many back links do you make from each pbn site so basically what is the uh sorry how what is the maximum amount of OB what's the maximum amount of outbound links from each one of your pbn cuse I would say I can go all the way up to 20 in the sense that maybe eight of them would actually be my websites on targetting and then there's actually more random links and when I say Authority links everyone just searches their industry with Wikipedia and they're just leing to Wikipedia on every single pbn why not just search site.edu and then find an actual really high quality educate edu post specifically about what your talking about in the post and link to it properly so at least it actually makes sense and you're actually sending it to a you know educational body around what you're trying to rank for don't just start sending stuff at Wikipedia with a YouTube in bed video some random dude standing there like I've seen some Plumbing posts where they literally have like six YouTube videos on guys on how to fix sinks and it's literally the same PBM post how to install a radiator pipe how to fix syns just like 20 times with the same YouTube videos on each on it it's like whoa like and a half yeah yeah you know there's other ways of generating good content for your pbns A's content Explorer you can go ahead search industry and sort by date you can find really highly shared posts of what people are talking about in industry and go ahead and get those reworded and post stuff like that on your pbns and then you'll notice that you start getting traffic as well and you're actually ranking your pbns because it's real content it's not just the same article and how to can s a radiator pipe 20 times because I've decided to spin it ridiculous I know um okay so the next question comes from Robert Kirk he asks what do you class as being your top three most important on page practice to consider in 2013 and what would be and what would be the first thing you would check for website get stuck at a position say the top of play two like number 11 the top three onpage factors but there's there's quite a lot of on page factors that we need to actually look at the top three on page factors that actually have SEO weight are things like the page title the H1s you know I think it' probably be page title content and URL so that main yeah so what you guys are actually naming your pages and your domains I try and stick to short URLs yeah generally whichever is easier for someone to share or remember and that type of thing there's people out there that are jaming all these different longtail variations of the target phrase in a URL changing it on the page title and then changing it on page as well um I wouldn't go through all that trouble of you know making really long URLs but I do think you can do the title and then you can include some more things actually on on the H1s and H2S and Target it that way um but realistically get M Di's aige and SEO guide and go through all of those um rather than just saying what are the top three factors you know yeah on page is much more than just doing a few title changes I think I think you if you really nail it right all these little tiny factors and the grand scheme of things um add up and you know you get a little bit of SEO benefit yeah yeah it's just literally trying to analyze the whole page rather than just looking for the top three things that you can get obviously by doing that analysis you'll likely get the quick wins that you can just do straight away and get some get some so when he says what you're doing when you're at the top of page two I would literally run my website through um internet marketing ninjja side by-side comparison versus everybody and then I'd go on mat Dig's ever green on-site guide go through all of those factors and then just submit my website in Web Master tools and then after about 20 minutes I would do site my page and then look at the cach version so i' search for site my actual page look at the cash version and see if it's updated in Google yeah and then if it has updated I would then refresh my rank tracker and see if those changes have reflected and you know you should get a good increase yeah pretty ear as as just doing oh it's just all about analysis really we've said this probably living analysis yeah side by side analysis a website using countless tools out there internet marketing ninjas one is amazing um and you know you can take it a step further and actually plug your competitors's uh URLs in arf's keywords Explorer and semrush and have a look at all the keywords um to which your competitors rank for but they don't actively Target and then on page you can include it in a H2 or whatever and that will give you some good ideas how you can improve your on page a little bit there um just thought i' to throw throw that nice dip in there for them extra um Ben Doyle asks uh firstly your link service is at James um so there thank you guys there's a big sale for June email me buy my [ __ ] number one uh oh well actually the first one have you ever approached a company for an affiliate deal when they haven't actually had an affiliate program in the first place I've never personally done that but I know that it's possible especially with platforms like open cut and um and the other free you know Magento and stuff they have built-in plugins that actually do affiliate programs so when you're approaching these companies if they say oh no we're we're just a little outfit yeah their e-commerce system does have does have options to do that so if you actually contact them to educate them on that maybe even send them a resource because you can see what their shop is hosted on you can approach them and you can actually say this is how you do it and this is how I'd be able to promote your products I I actually have done it once but what I didn't actually reach out to them they reach out to me and I kind of figured out a workr with it um basically they reached out to me saying that we have this amazing product that is a lot better than the current products on your top 10 list yeah um and but unfortunately we we don't have you know the infrastructure in place to track the links ET yeah and obviously with most shopping cart systems even the open source ones the the free ones they have affiliate plugins as standard yeah well well well what why I did in this specific case yeah is um I did some analysis again some analysis um basically I looked at the CPC of a keyword of the keyword that I was ranking for and well I looked at the average CPC of about 50 different keywords that I'm actually ranking for um I averaged out the cost per clip um I then looked at the traffic stats per month for how much traffic each of my um keywards was each my sorry each little I then looked at how much traffic the number one product that I had in my top 10 list was actually getting and I think it was getting like 980 visits a month I think 980 unique visits a month oh W um yeah it was it pretty good for number one so I got about 98 unes a month and I think the cost of click on it was like $237 so what I did was I said okay round that down to $2 and I'll just sell you each link click as $2 and then just invoice you at the end of the month and actually that worked out that I was getting a lot better money from doing that deal than I was just getting the commission because the yes so it was a lot to do that yeah so in that instance even if the traffic doesn't convert you're still getting credited for sending them exactly and basically doing what Google are doing with CBC but you're you're undercutting Google and and the cool thing about that is can actually give them tips to increase their conversion rates as well exactly because it's more incentive on them to make a really good landing page that will actually convert that's actually a pretty good idea so otherwise that they're going to be wasting your traffic if they don't improve which you could be sending it elsewhere you can say look I'm getting much better conversions off a different product I recommend you guys you know try and go for this angle so this could be a really nice winwin scenario going direct there yeah 100% um there are two questions here from Brett alert I think it'ser um the first one is any tips on increasing conversions on high ticket items like appliances or Furniture so basically any cro tips for high items use orange Burns isn't isn't that banned by Amazon's terms of yeah yeah don't K don't use orange buttons um I think in general if someone was to buy that particular item they're going to be spending a lot of money on it so really high quality imagery specific reviews from someone who's acquired the product before invested in really good content from someone who actually knows about sofas and high ticket what was it high ticket Appliances High ticket appliances um sofas and couches for USB folks yeah sofas and couches um realistically that that would be probably the only tips it's just like any other product really if you can provide a real clear us fees on why they would buy that particular product and you can educate them in a transparent way and it's authentic and you've displayed the content that you're someone that's actually yeah used it before that is the best way and test everything like and heat Maps as well heat maps and AGB test everything you do so you you'd be very surprised how much conver how better conversions you'll get from putting a centered B Now button to like the right or to the left it's it's crazy heat mat heat mat is really cool what would you recommend I literally just use the Heat match for plug in for word I use uh I use clicky yeah click is actually click is what one of my favorite um only like it's a shame because I really started off in clicky and um since I've been working on my own couple years I don't have uh the analytics experience that I remember I just have clicky experience because I've stopped using analytics which is a bit of a shame yeah generally actually you should check out I actually gave a shout out to him in the group today Kurt Phillips on digity marketing's blog if you just search digity marketing.com and Kurt Phillips it'll come up with the beginers gu C for seos and that is a really really that will be step by step yeah literally he shows you even like what how to use tools and what tools to use and everything um and then as well as just like different kind of psychology about the kind of wording that you'd use stuff um okay so Brett's next question was would' love to hear about your interlinking strategies for large Authority type affiliate websites things with like 100 plus posts see my interlinking strategy is more how can I make it relevant on the page to exactly where where else you know other post would be I wouldn't go ahead and start spamming into links ever like I see a lot of people do um and I just throw all my stuff in categories of things I don't know if you you go much deeper than that I just try and use like generally example we should a client site where where they had tons of blog posts but number number one the most annoying thing was all of their blog posts with no index so that was just a I think I think the issue is when it tats get into that size 100 plus Pages the pages risk becoming orphan Pages yeah so you can see where on your website you can actually link to them properly so that the ju can actually flow around the website make sure it's like the make sure it's topically relevant like if if your site about health and you're linking a yoga article to like a coffee fat burning article then it's not going to be relevant at all so just try and make sure that you're kind of doing less about interlinking and more so about creating topical bubbles you're creating uh you know with your money page here you have sporting content here here they are linking back and you have these idual bubbles to make sure that you're splitting the uh top and by using categories you can just go into the category and see everything that you can potentially link to but I think when people start using things like SEO smart links and stuff you're starting to create really unnatural linking patterns where it's literally if a certain word is mentioned automatically linked to a certain post which is not a good practice to do especially if you just click deploy across a 100 pages and suddenly you just unnaturally insert all these link across where your pages that's not something you'd want to employ so I think can the user access this page realistically from from the homepage can they access it from Key category Pages um and am I am I risking this page for coming an off page and then all of a sudden you have like 20 odd Pages just randomly being the index which I've had before where this page doesn't get external back links and it doesn't get any supporting links from the website Google will just you know they'll index you'll see that on really old posts as well um let your let pag so I think basically it's difficult because when you have so many pages you are inclined to want to use autogenerating plugin because you're not going to sit there and go through everything so it's almost as if that would be helpful if you can actually look at each one and say does am I actually going to create this link yeah so literally if you like if you or but you have it saying this will be where the link goes and you can just click next if that is an option then that would work but I think there for the developers out there yeah I think if that's an option that would work but I really don't think it's a good idea to just press go and all of a sudden you have really random inter links across all your pages um and yeah I think realistically building proper websites where the Linkin pattern is natural and looks like you're going to direct someone to a relevant page yeah if you have in mind this is suppor this is supporting content for this money page I'm really only going to direct traffic to this mini page why the hell would you start just making some mad Loop and stuff so don't use autogenerating things and actually use categories and strategically Do It um and if you're going to autogenerate actually look at what they're going to do before you just press go 100% okay and then the next question and I think this is going to be the last question from the group chat we will try and cover some live questions that I've been running for quite a bit of time now uh and this is actually a twart question Josephine Anderson asks first can you submit back links including your pbns to the Google Google submit tool so that's that's the U the really old tool the ad URL tool the ad URL tool you can you can do I I personally only use that for external links yeah um there's been a few times I've been too lazy to log into Web Master tools or if the client hasn't given me Web Master tools access which some clients they they're a little bit funny about giving away especially if it's access to their my business account and stuff which quite rare but it's really handy in that instant because you can just Chuck in all your site URLs in there you get recalled that way um but I throw everything and anything in there and I abuse it across like 60 Google accounts so yeah well I do the exact same thing apart from I used light speed indexer so all you need is like some proxies some Pro proxies and some Google PBA accounts and it will literally just do the submit tool apart from it'll do it from all over the world and it's a lot hard Google to submit the patent that's why light light speed light speed indexer I actually saw Sor sorry actually saw someone in the live chat asked what was the best link index on the out there and I think it is light speed indexer if you you uses the submit tool exactly generally it's like instant indexing yeah yeah I I really like the submit tool um I'm kind of annoyed that everyone keeps sharing it around now but it has been around since like 2007 yeah when I wasn't really into SEO and things so I just randomly look kid making websites I was actually Googling how do I add my website to Google and I've had that link for ages and always knew about it and I've always put pbns and things in there and people are like oh how did you index it in 5 seconds because it's literally instant indexing yeah and uh and the second question as well from Josephine was are there any rules for Q density or should I just write naturally I would look at side bys side SEO comparison tool about internet marketing injures and look at your website versus everyone in the top five top three top 10 and look at their keyword densities and try and get an average but realistically just write real content for the user like keyw density is such a 2001 2003 tactic of spamming the same word trying put your keyword at least once somewhere in the article but yeah you just rightfully use it like especially especially if you guys are doing really big post which I know you recommending your affiliate course which is Amazing by the way um which is you know do really nice long form um posts a little bit what we spoke about earlier but obviously not spamming like 10,000 words and when when you're doing like 4,000 5,000 6,000 word posts even 10,000 posts if you know you can make them good with a table of contents is the people words naturally going to occur anyway if you're doing a post about the best fridges I'm pretty sure fridge is going to end up in there a couple of times especially there's 20,000 10,000 words with about 40 different fridges you're talking about you think the word fridge is going to be in there so you shouldn't really overthink it and if you're going to look at densities look at the average for the pay one and really don't tell your vas to like think about G density then you'll end up with like a 25% key ratio and it will just be every other word is just randomly fridge fridge and Cat fridge about fridge this fridge you want to be careful with that yeah um and then finally the final question is YF Bernstein asks which providers can you recommend for pbn links and mainly for online reputation management that actually work as well because a lot of people have been posting in groups recently they've been buying pbn links and they're just flat out not working well I think um a lot of people are actually testing their pbns before using them people like M mat digity and things um obviously with that for RM that's a bit of a disadvantage if you're having to rent them yeah but if you're buying permanent post I think asking the provider have they tested them on real websites yeah um I know a lot of people don't give out their URL so it be difficult to actually look at the post insert the link into SE and see if they've actually had an increase since using whatever pbn post they claimed to have purchased but you know it's hard because obviously people just disclose your eyes but if you can get a provider that shows you the UR that said that they've you know um tested the pbns you'll have the best bet there but you know it's kind of difficult to say um but generally recommended PBM providers that work is going to be Matt DT it's their rental but I know Todd Fuster offers one time post sometimes gnomes offers one time post sometimes and anybody in B bhc pbn Marketplace that has a clear reputation really good Freds um I think for one time fee when you're do on management Todd is probably Todd Foster is probably the best yeah I think Todds is probably the most reliable because he's been around since 2014 he's you know he's our personal close friend that's an ad in all the groups and he has like thousands of websites yeah I think he has like 8,000 so you know their age they've been around they they haven't just registered them fre months ago and then still waiting to test them and it's going to be Russian Roulette you're getting off a trusted provider who's actually took the time out to build them and test them and they've been aged for years and years and they've been tested for years you can pay $80 and get like a foury old domain yeah with the PB on it like that yeah okay I think that is pretty much it for all the questions on there and we have been going for the pretty a lot of time and a little bit over it as per usual um I know there's a ton of questions in the live chat and unfortunately it's just we can't get to all of them um but we will hopefully do a longer segment at some point where we do maybe like a two hour or three one but we don't actually have any questions from the group we just go through the live I really like um you know i' really like it if we maybe brought on some some case studies of some crazy stuff that's going on in the subs at the moment um I've seen a few websites which could really dissect and we know it' be cool if we were both here we had yeah we just anal someone just sent those websites and we on the spot to analyze them everybody just send us the craziest websites you can find I've got you know maybe 10 15 case studies of real live websites that are making right now um and you know we don't have to disclose your ARS we can just show all the screenshots and things and we can go really specific on what they've done um and you know I think that'd be really helpful for some people just to see that all this SEO stuff really works it does genely work don't don't go to PBC at the dark side yeah we're giving money to the eagle Google c um but yeah anyway thanks once again Jam for being on show L it yeah it was a lot it a lot of fun once again and I hope you guys at home enjoyed it uh if you have any kind of more suggestions Etc once this video is live obviously drop a comment in the comment section below if you'd like to ask any more questions in the next episode we'll kind of figure out what the next episode is going to be about and everything yeah we'll probably do a part three of this where we do like final kind of all the questions and we go a bit longer than the hour an hour and 50 minutes that we have them before um but yeah thanks for watching I hope you have an awesome day good to having me Charles yeah once again the show um pleasure as always ww.the pbn do community and you can be up to date with all the latest information and have be part of one of the best communities in the world one the most active SEO communities I think probably is the most active SEO in the world um once again thanks for watching it's been also having you guys [Music] peace