[01:22] If you're here early on a Wednesday night 8:15 Eastern Standard Time for the greatest World of Warcraft podcast, specifically at this time and date, in the world. Let's get some ones in
[01:39] in the world. Let's get some ones in the Shababy. gentlemen, dude. We're about to go crazy. We're here with another episode
[01:53] of The Comeback City. I am your co-host NZ Sky, and we have our other co-host >> Lance is in the chat. Scalder, welcome back. We missed you last week, buddy. Huge fun. Welcome back with the primers.
[02:08] Watch for cotton candy gurgle. Ew, what is this? Oh, there's a drops right now. Guys, there's drops on Twitch. is on. >> Yes, it's true. We are back.
[02:23] get the drops. And it is official. Uh guys, we actually have some interesting changes. Broform, thank you so much, Um we do have some new updates when it
[02:36] comes to 12.1. Uh also we have some very interesting going to go through. Very interesting one. It's quite long, but apparently there that we're going to break down. Um and then we're also together on stream.
[02:53] rank. Pretty much every feature that we've seen so far of Midnight World of Warcraft season 1 as well as the launch and uh going through it together to have a good time. So, if you guys are here, ready to chill out, vibe, sit down, grab
[03:07] a snack, grab a beverage cuz it's going to be a hell of a show. Oh. All right, that was a good show, guys. We will see you Saturday night. Uh we will see you later and Lance, how are you feeling? Talk to me.
[03:21] >> Feeling pretty good. Hope you and the lady are good. Scott. >> We're feeling pretty good. Feeling good. >> We pretty much got my shadow priest up to 90 now. >> Whoa, shadow priest. Wait a second,
[03:33] guys. Did you hear that? Lance is selling out already on the Windwalker >> Not what I said. >> Once again, >> What? Got to have the shadow priest at level 90 for a chance at the new tier
[03:46] >> of course, [music] of course, of course. That's good. That's good. >> Uh ladies and gentlemen, I need some early responses from you guys. Too early to tell class main predictions. What are you guys thinking about maining heading
[04:00] into 12.1? It's about 6 weeks away, I believe. Um by the way, that's really not a long time. I mean I mean honestly at this point, 6 weeks away from the new season, that's really cool. Um so, just want to
[04:14] know some too early to tell class main options from you guys. Talk about it a little bit. Um before we jump into the show in the next couple of [music] minutes. Personally, I have a couple options.
[04:26] affliction, obviously stick with my affliction. That was That would be the number one option. But, I have a couple other options. But, I have a couple other options. Potentially,
[04:41] okay, arcane mage. Troll arcane mage, by the way. >> Wrong. >> Void elf arcane mage. Okay, interesting, Um I'm also potentially thinking of troll
[04:54] elemental shaman. Believe it or not. I don't know. We'll >> Uh also, I am very close to getting the 1% >> No. >> from being in the bracket. But, let me
[05:09] >> from being in the bracket. But, let me tell you it is absolutely brutal. It is the most dog [ __ ] experience, and I cannot wait to make a video [ __ ] on mythic plus because I think it is a disastrous 1% grind [music] solo. Even
[05:25] if you try to pug or not pug and be in groups, it the whole design of the system itself pisses me off, and I think there's so many flaws with it, but whatever. It is what it is. Um 6 week for 12.1. Oh, got the yeah, yeah. 6 week
[05:40] away. Afflock, BM hunter, shadow priest, unholy DK. Those are some good options there. Uh guys, this damn wind chime Oh god, windchime mythic? Yeah, you're >> No. you're crazy. Yo, if you need a DPS shiny Pikachu, let me know.
[05:54] >> I did just 99 parse on spore fall, okay? I don't want to brag, but if you need a >> You want to >> I'm there. >> Think you're good enough? >> Without a doubt in my mind.
[06:07] >> Okay. >> With Lore, how we doing? Been a god dang >> These guys are trolling us now. >> Listen, hopefully not. Warlock always versus via [clears throat] arcane mage is
[06:21] fantastic. Yo, listen, by the way, I did see an arcane mage in solo queue last 3750 rating. Very interesting to see. Is it good? I don't think so. [music] I don't think so. >> No, in like mythic IO, like he was at
[06:34] >> 3050. Uh someone better get in YouTube on the phone and get these boy Oh, Izzy, doing, baby? Always good to see you. By the way, don't forget, Izzy, BlizzCon's coming up. I'll be in California.
[06:46] You know what we got? Me, you, breakfast burrito. in, ladies and gentlemen. We do have to dive into some of the news here. Sorry. >> Oh, wait. Guys, wow. All right, let's go
[07:02] >> I got to give a lot of hugs out at BlizzCon. >> You have to give a lot of hugs out? >> Like to one person in particular. person? A lot of hugs to one?
[07:15] >> Nope. >> Who the [ __ ] is it? Bro. >> What? >> I'm get Dude, that's my guy. >> Yeah. Mouth hugs? That's crazy.
[07:28] >> Something like that. >> That is crazy. >> All right. All right, well, congratulations. Glad we stopped for the All right, let's continue. Um starting things off, guys, a couple of really
[07:43] interesting announcements here from Blizzard. Uh, this first one saying, uh, Outlines on Cone and Line Attacks, Upcoming Changes to Season 2 Mythic Plus Dungeons." So, uh, there's been some issue with like
[07:56] going to happen and things have looked pretty clunky in World of Warcraft in >> Normal. It's okay. It tends to happen, but once you learn the mechanic, it's like the back of your hand sort of deal. You don't really need to know. But, uh,
[08:09] this cuz I'm absolutely not reading all this is an example of a frontal cone that they're making. Very, very good. Another frontal cone. Uh, this looks like a sort of What is
[08:22] that go forward? Like an earth shockwave. >> You know, I just want to say it. WildStar had the >> on enemy abilities so good.
[08:34] >> what was that, 10 years ago? Mhm. The only thing is, Blizzard does not like to make things look out of place. >> Right. So, like the poison one shows the depending on what it is. >> Okay.
[08:50] I understand they want the game to look Sometimes, ability. >> Yeah, sometimes readability is more important than immersion at times. Obviously, it depends on the game.
[09:04] >> Yeah, I need to know >> I need to be able to see it. >> Yeah. Like Like the Larva fight, purple floor, purple wind chimes, purple >> to be able to see some [ __ ] >> Holy [ __ ] my eyes. Anyways,
[09:19] so, going into some of this cuz I am 100% not reading all this. Ragnar, see you. Um, responding to player feedback regarding the mythic mythic Season 2 dungeon rotation, Blizzard has released a large
[09:31] blog post on how they choose dungeons to end uh, do choose dungeons each sanction creating more clear outlines for line and cone attacks and other pain points they intend to change. So, uh every dungeon gets a full creature
[09:44] creature from feeling the same, and distribute challenges across the entire group. Season 2 is trying to take some of the pressure off of tanks and healers increasing health pools to encourage
[09:57] be honest, I don't understand how adding more health puts pressure on DPS you? That just that really do anything? >> You got to keep damaging for longer.
[10:11] need. It's not like I'm already doing 6-minute boss fights, you know, in a higher-end key with no bloodlust, but that's fine. Uh and cooldown timing. less raw damage in exchange for applying more penalties. See, that's a good
[10:25] change, though. So, while some enemy abilities will now deal less raw damage in exchange for applying more penalties to player output or mobility instead. So, they're intending on rooting us, slowing us, keeping us in place, or
[10:42] do just I guess be less efficient on player being a one-shot fest. That sounds pretty good to me. Um cone and line better communicate their impact area. Intended to share the visual style of
[10:58] intended for attacks that that hit instantly, such as dragon breaths and laser stationary cones. Yeah, okay, got you. And then they go ahead and go in there and explain what the updates are. Um apparently, there It looks like right
[11:11] here, the cantina event will will gain progress faster, suffer less loss, and no longer switch jobs. Zane Bladesworn will have less caster ads and cast I don't know what that I don't remember who that boss is, but
[11:24] through all this, but interesting changes amongst, you know, all of these. definitely cool. Uh let me see here. Is there anything like super important here that we need to go through? Updating dungeons, I mean,
[11:38] Blank canvas when it comes to older essence and themes of dungeon without players feeling like it has become something entirely different. Halls of Valor is a good example from Midnight
[11:50] By the way, I'll be completely real. Can I get some ones in the chat if you guys like the rework to Halls of Valor and the sort of update and modernization of the chat? >> Big ones from you, Lance?
[12:03] >> I'll take it. Oh. >> Uh I thought it came out great. I can sort of replicate that feeling and vibe from Halls of Valor on to other dungeons, yeah, I think we're [ __ ]
[12:16] Yeah. Shout out to Skulldeers. Shout out to Shout out to Broform. Shout out to Angel Raven. Shout out to Ram. Of course, with the ones in the chat. review. Yeah, you already said that, jackass. Boss encounters are reviewed
[12:29] strong foundation and mostly need visual polish, tuning, and pacing adjustments. this is interesting. Let's get into some of this cuz this talks about the tank players often have the most immediate pressure in Mythic Plus. When something
[12:44] role to ask to solve it, whether that means saving the pull, recovering the group, or covering mistakes long enough for the key to continue. In season one, key success could be too heavily shaped by those moments. While damage
[12:56] throughput and damage dealer execution did not always have the same impact on whether a group timed the key. I don't know. That's also I I'm I'm not sure point, [music] and maybe not for everybody, but it definitely gets to a
[13:10] enough damage, it doesn't matter if you don't die, you're just not going to die. It just doesn't matter. Like But, I do get what they're saying. So, if you're in that range of like maybe 10 to 14.
[13:25] Hey. They want more pressure on DPS. What are your thoughts on that, Lance? Shifting responsibility away from tanks and healers, more on DPS specs. >> It's not good. Not good.
[13:37] Yeah, more ways to [ __ ] up. >> Oh, buddy. Oh, man. Let me tell you something though, stuff. There is a lot of pressure on tanks. I think the most pressure in terms of
[13:49] because if you pull too much or you do something wrong, holy [ __ ] you brick something wrong, holy [ __ ] you brick the entire key. One mistake. Like you're heading into a lieutenant pull and you don't have any, could be a
[14:01] problem. You pull too many lieutenants or if you pull too many mobs, could be a problem. If you pull too many casters, people aren't ready to kick, you're donezo. I mean, I'm not saying it should be like
[14:14] that in most keys, but I'm just saying like it's too forgiving in low keys and it's too like
[14:27] high keys. >> it's the nature of a an ever-scaling system, right? Like eventually it's got to reach that point where or die. That's it.
[14:42] >> Yeah. >> That's true. >> Whatever. >> Uh let's go let's continue. In season 2, you'll likely see slightly increased creature health pools, a larger emphasis
[14:55] on skills like target prioritization and damage checks, and some abilities trading raw damage effects for penalties to damage output or mobility.
[15:08] So, they're swapping you [music] getting one-shotted to I'm going to deal less >> to give you damage downs? What the [ __ ] I don't want that. Want to pump, bro.
[15:20] Want to pump, bro. Want to slap ass. get DPS to actually do the job. >> [ __ ] I mean, you're not wrong, but >> Um Well, you still want dungeons to move at
[15:34] there so priority targets cool down usage and damage checks have more room have plenty to manage. Yeah, okay, got you. Okay. Thanks. This is just the visual updates and changes. I mean, [music] I'm going to be
[15:49] all this at all. Like, there's a 0% chance I'm going through all this. Um but cool stuff. Yeah, this was great. I think it's it's a definitely important especially next season when there's a lot of interesting things coming. We
[16:03] also got a 150% confirmation on a couple things. Number one, the mythic Ulatek boss sort of mount dropping. Let me see if I can get a uh if I can get a uh a view in 3D here. Does this work today?
[16:17] mount. >> mount. Is that it, guys? That's a sick >> There's the mount. This is it, guys. That's what we were all waiting for. Let's go, wowhead. No wonder you guys are dying. Got to tell you are uh going
[16:31] back. Just kidding. Uh so, that is the mythic Ulatek mounts. Let's go check it >> mount. >> No, it's very cool. I've never liked the sort of What are those mounts called?
[16:44] They're like a Are they like a What What are those creatures? Like a chimaeras? >> A hydra? >> No, like the dual-head meras? Chi- >> Chimaeras.
[16:58] >> Yeah. >> Chimaeras. Yeah, yeah. little basic, but >> Yes, that's what I was going to say. It It seems like you just put this on a skeleton of something we've seen. A
[17:11] >> The two-head >> Like, listen, one thing I liked about the Undermine one is that it's on a model that we never really see. That little robot model. You know, I I thought that was kind of cool. I
[17:24] don't remember seeing a mount on that skin before from a mythic raid. picky. I feel like we need some more visual pop. Like this is a little plain on the outside. I like the fangs and I like here. We need more visual pop. You
[17:39] something like maybe they could start giving this a 1% drop chance on like a love you easy. On like a normal or heroic and then for >> interesting. >> So, you want two mounts?
[17:52] >> Double mount. >> Yeah, I do. I think I think normal and participation trophy. >> No, it's not a participation trophy. >> Normal no What about LFR? LFR, right? >> Yeah, I mean you give that a chance for
[18:06] By the way, that's more That's how you get higher end players to join the lower >> Yeah. I mean it's a one mount. >> Log daily bonus login mount. How about that?
[18:19] >> How about you sign up and you pay for the mount online? >> That's good. >> How about expansion DLC mount?
[18:31] when a new expansion >> Actually, [ __ ] >> Jokes on you. >> How about How about RNG loot box mount? Loot rates. Overwatch. >> I like what um Broform's saying. Every
[18:45] >> [laughter] >> Yo, I got to get the [ __ ] out of here. This is crazy. >> And the meta is log in log out. Log in >> [laughter] >> All jokes aside, I really do like the
[18:59] mount. I like genuinely, I do. I I think even the skeleton on it's cool. I don't when it comes to a mythic raid mount. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? >> I do, too. I think it's a cool vibe. I just need I need You see that like
[19:12] really in there? You see all this >> Yeah. and that? Yeah, I need more of that. And maybe make the heads different. Or something. Daily login chance at mount is such a W
[19:24] >> Dude, I got to get a Trojan off. This is This is what I'm saying. >> That's a cool [ __ ] mount. I really like Yo, you put that on a troll assassination rogue. >> What I'm saying is you have this be like
[19:36] a normal like LFR normal Heroki of a 1% chance of it dropping every time you do a raid. You know what I'm like >> a high def mount. >> Then you have a mythic one that maybe
[19:49] it. >> know. I feel like that's a lot of work I'm going to be real. Let me check the back out. Wow, look at the back. >> I like this more than Bellerin. >> No. Guys, what's better? Bellerin or
[20:03] this mount? Be honest, no [ __ ] >> Bro, this is sick. >> By the way, you know they're probably going to go this route of every 1% every
[20:15] >> get the red and black version of this. >> Well, I don't know if they're going to >> Every single time? >> Every time for the mythic one. Bellerin mount. >> Really?
[20:27] >> Yeah. >> This by far this [music] this mount. Bellerin? [ __ ] >> Bro, this [ __ ] is sick. >> This mount is sick and I can't wait to see what it looks like in
[20:39] >> the the contrast between the purple into the blue. >> And how it has like scales but also feathers. This [ __ ] is dope. Maybe I am sleeping on this mount a little bit.
[20:55] >> Boost it. No, I probably will never get >> Because I'm not going to clear the mythic raid. Dude, I'm having a newborn >> hooked >> You know you're not. No, cuz World of
[21:10] Warcraft is live. >> What? >> Yeah, it will be. >> And it's coming at you August 18th. >> Was that not enough to hype you up? That's kind of weird.
[21:24] >> Uh anyways, that is the Mythic Ula'tek Mount. Very, very cool mount. I'm not even going to lie to you right now. Uh additionally, we do have the Delve boss mount as well. Um this is the uh Delve boss. I forgot
[21:36] the guy's name. It's like Let's see. I I just want As As Aszureth. Aszureth. don't mind them going the route continuously of the uh the Arcane Golem.
[21:51] I really don't. As long as they keep updating it drastically. Like this, I will say this is probably the best one they've made >> I hated it the first time I saw it. I really hated this one.
[22:03] >> But then I actually looked at it and you see that the shoulders are actually cobra heads. >> Yeah, so like I love the shoulders and >> is good.
[22:15] don't mind. >> And it's red and black. I mean, you black transmogs. >> The Mount Extravaganza. Wow. >> going to come back in >> Shut up.
[22:29] >> Shut up. Bro, it's coming back. Extravaganza. Crazy.
[22:44] >> Well, I guess that's the show. See you later, guys. >> If anyone ever gets upset, you got to put the full full screen on them. Um now, overall though, I like this mount. I I think it's cool. Um
[22:57] would have went the green route. What What's the one they They're going for That's the just a regular Delve mount, I think. >> Kind of weird, no? >> Or you just buy that for getting Delve
[23:09] Interesting. Uh honestly, the one you can buy from white mech is cooler. Uh yeah, I mean, that's just >> to go do that. >> reference thing. Uh let's continue. Uh
[23:22] by the way, Lance, it seems as if they pulled back [music] the crest upgrade on the PTR. Obviously, we knew this was coming. They did this in the alpha. They >> it's such a bad It's such a bad That would be a horrible system.
[23:35] it. >> Yeah, no. >> So >> Next. >> Um
[23:47] And then additionally, Lance, we also have two new war band campsite screens >> in 12.1. >> Maybe I'll finally use it. >> the Silvermoon one. Just regular
[23:59] >> Dude, come on. Come on, Scott. >> Regular Silvermoon like this? >> Uh that's quite cool, quite cool. And then we have the void corrupted >> No, you're not rocking that. You told me you didn't like void or or
[24:14] >> shadow priest [music] in my war camp just for that. >> Yeah, I got a goblin one. >> Like a four for four from Wendy's. >> Yeah. >> Wow. By the way, I actually did a count
[24:26] the other day. Bro, I got a problem. I've had like eight shadow priest at max level at one time. are you doing? >> Koi fish, what up, buddy? How are you
[24:38] >> Welcome, welcome, one and all. Welcome, welcome, strong and tall. >> Make enough tunes to have all the screens in use. That's how you do it. >> I mean, you probably can fill it out by this point. Um okay, additionally,
[24:52] ladies and gentlemen, we today are going to do something very, very fun. >> good, buddy? >> through a tier list today, everyone's >> Wait, a tier list on what? >> Today, we are doing a tier list, ladies
[25:05] and gentlemen, on ranking Midnight season 1. Everything that sort of content [music] from launch day to 12.0.5
[25:17] to 12.0.7, and we're going to dive in. It is going to be an absolutely awesome >> extravaganza. >> So, I hope you guys are uh are excited for this. Uh, Lance, how we feeling? You ready for this patch? Guys, by the way,
[25:32] you have to understand this all of your chats in Twitch chat and YouTube chat are going to be on the video for YouTube. So, if you guys are going to post, you got to post your opinions in the, you know, YouTube live chat, Twitch
[25:45] >> So, before you go live, before you start recording for the YouTube, this is going on YouTube, this whole segment? The entire thing is going on YouTube? Yes. >> no cussing, guys. No cussing. >> All right, you should not have e- you
[25:59] because they will do it. >> it to you. >> All right. >> You have a potty mouth. They say it in
[26:11] >> here we go. Ready to go. >> All right, starting now, guys. >> All right, all jokes aside, um let's go over here. Let me make sure I am here first of all. So, starting off with
[26:25] the Midnight launch, uh the brand new Midnight zones that came with Midnight [music] World of Warcraft. Guys, what are we thinking about the zones, right? We have Eversong Woods, we have Harendar, we got the Void
[26:40] Storm, and we have Zul'Aman. Now, remember before we rate the zones, you of the best, I guess, zone-wide experiences for all of like all time.
[26:52] Shadowlands was phenomenal leveling. Warlords of Draenor, phenomenal leveling favorite? Those are Those are two of my favorite right off rip. I know TBC is one of yours, but that's like classic. >> was actually so good.
[27:06] favorite ever? >> Looking back on it, I liked every leveling zone in War [music] Within. >> Really? Matter of fact, I liked every zone from War Within a lot. >> Guys, tell us in the chat, YouTube and
[27:18] Twitch chat, what are some of your favorite leveling expansions >> Speaking of I just want to talk about the zones in general. The War Within zones were so good, but I know we're talking about Midnight. Um I
[27:33] >> A-tier? Okay. >> I think the zones were A-tier. The only it at first, but the fact that I just never go back there >> proves to me that I don't didn't love it that much is Heron's Watch.
[27:46] >> I I kind of avoid that place. >> It's kind of crazy. Um initially, I loved Heron's Watch. I still enjoy going to Heron's Watch. The problem is is yes, the Sporefall rate is in there, and I guess I go back there technically to go
[28:01] do that, but they didn't add any of the It was just all Void Storm. The whole Void Storm. >> Void Storm bangs. >> 0.7 patch, Void Storm. Fishing event, Void Storm. Or or
[28:13] Zul'Aman. Like, we did not have one micro event other than the raid >> does bang. >> So, leads me to believe that they were uh trying to cut that bad boy out, you know what I mean? Um anyways, I think I
[28:28] could agree with Lance. Guys, we need a final uh you know, judgment on this. I I I think Everbloom was very strong, and it was very nice to see the nostalgia >> That will put it in A alone. >> And I thought the whole the Brightbloom
[28:43] was really cool as well to see. It was a very interesting twist. Um those are some really good leveling zones as you um And then I also look By the way, big sleeper Zul'Aman. I can't I cannot
[28:57] believe how much I love Zul'Aman and out of all the zones Zul'Aman had the best music. Yeah, no Karazhan is the best. Yeah, no Karazhan is the best. Over Zul'Aman?
[29:11] some crazy music, but I think we can all comfortably say got to go A-tier on the >> I think the zones are A. >> Yeah. Uh next up, Silvermoon City as the capital of the expansion. >> Uh S.
[29:26] to rank it. What are we ranking Silvermoon City? A in S through D-tier? >> Big S-tier. >> For real, no [ __ ] no trolls. What are we thinking?
[29:39] >> S is correct. >> No, it's the best it's the best modern >> Capital city modern capital. >> case to be made it's one it's top three.
[29:52] classic ones just because like obviously nostalgia for for org and Silvermoon. nostalgia for for org and Silvermoon. Modern modern Silvermoon is insane.
[30:05] Like it it's First of all, it's freaking humongous, by the way. It's beautiful. I twist on elves. >> But cuz like you go back to the old you
[30:17] know, Silvermoon City, >> very dark vibes there, very eerie vibes. It's it's almost like eerie cuz it's empty. Yeah, well, that too, but but almost like there's something darker beyond the skin here, like like it's a
[30:31] it's a mask, but in reality, there's some there's some evil that's happened [music] here, like like the the the deep violence. >> [singing] >> Like Like orchestral oh
[30:45] like very creepy. But now modern Silvermoon a little bit reawaken, Silvermoon a little bit reawaken, modernized, fresh, or alive again. The mean? I sort of get that vibe from the modern one. And don't get me wrong, I
[30:59] love the old blood elves on that sort of eerie twist to them, but I mean, have we not grown from that as elves? Are we going to stay corrupt >> Yeah. >> And I really like Darnassus.
[31:14] >> You're bringing up Darnassus. Yeah. >> Don't ever do that again. >> a great capital, I'll be honest. Um let's go to the next one. The Midnight question. Lance, what do we think about the Midnight Campaign? Talk to me.
[31:32] talking about post-level 90 stuff as well? [music] >> It's a B. >> Okay. >> Guys, what are we thinking about the Midnight Campaign? No BS, you guys got
[31:44] to be on YouTube. Let us know. >> I enjoyed doing it during the leveling. >> I enjoyed um enjoyed the campaign through the zones. >> Oh, really? >> I think where it got weak was, at least
[32:01] >> I think where it got weak was, at least for me, void storm, like the reunification of the elves. >> It just felt rushed. >> Okay.
[32:15] I feel like not not because of like oh, it was so fast. I just wish that they would have done more. Like I would have wanted to see more of that. >> So, and then you know, the Sylvanas thing was cool.
[32:32] we could have built up like let's build these things up before just splooging all over me with it, right? >> Like let's enjoy it. >> You know, let's not prematurely do this. >> Prematurely splooged all over you.
[32:45] >> Someone lock this guy up. >> Let's build it up. Let's make love to this. Let's massage this thing, right? >> Let's massage. else feeling this way? >> do it. It just felt a little rushed and
[32:59] because of it the payoff wasn't wasn't great. Like overall I see where they're going and I I kind of I like where they're more, bro. >> Okay.
[33:11] >> So we have a couple A's here, B, we have an S. Angel Raven says S. Overall B B B S or banned. >> I think that was from >> Silvermoon, buddy. >> Um let's go back. So the campaign
[33:28] >> [music] >> Lance rates a B, which is right here. by the end of this. We don't know the exact ranks yet. We have to get everything else on there, but for now to personally I would agree with Lance.
[33:41] Like I feel like some of the story lines were a little rushed. and I I don't know. I I feel like they could have done a much better job with like they had the Herenear involved. >> No, the the the worst part
[33:56] >> the when we're going to the March of Quel'Danas, >> [music] >> and they have Aeritor leading the >> [music]
[34:08] ranked than him, >> Yeah, weird. >> and like leadership and commanding. >> Weird.
[34:20] charge? Like is this to where >> Why? Because his dad and mom fell >> Yeah. >> He's not the best option. >> Like I get we want him to be the main character, but let's also like let's be
[34:33] >> Yeah, like we don't need to do that. >> Bottom armor. >> I don't know. Like we have Like Alleran Brightwing is there. The Ranger General is there. Or Lor'themar, I don't know.
[34:46] Heronier being added into the game as the allied race. What are we ranking Heronier as a race to be added to World of Warcraft? [music]
[34:58] Listen, I'm going to be honest. I think the potential obviously could have been there with Heronier. But man, I feel like they've sort of misled this entire thing with Heronier and Herendar.
[35:11] >> in transmog. >> Yeah, visually they look great and I like them. I like their people. I love their transmog. I love their >> Their heritage set? >> Heritage armor. I love that. But like if
[35:27] World of Warcraft? >> If you want me to be real, I would say >> I think there are other races that should be in the game. If you want my honest opinion. I like them a lot. I was just on my Heronier
[35:40] the other day just flying around collecting ore and and herbing just cuz I love the music in Herendar. I love my my Heronier druid. I think he's awesome. I feel like it was just so mismanaged [music] and I don't think they did a
[35:55] good job. And like you know, this next patch we're going to >> you know, the the coiled isle in Zolomance. >> [music] >> as Herendar as we possibly can.
[36:08] you're talking about this troll lore and the way they've positioned them now, not >> Think so? >> Yeah. And then also the what's coming in for the quest line in the point seven patch.
[36:23] spoilers on that too. >> they're they're apart. >> I would give them C or B. >> I would they're not as I think the campaign is >> let's ask the chat. Chat, where are we
[36:38] rating here and here as a new race being added to World of Warcraft? Is it a B or is it a C? You got to answer now. Now's the time to decide. I really don't know. I'm stuck between these [music] two. So I I I'm not too sure. Is it Is it B or
[36:53] C? Two C's, two B's so far. Four C's, three B's, four B's. Holy [ __ ] we're evenly at four four. Everyone's >> What about a D?
[37:06] >> That puts it at a firm C. >> In my in my book. C because it's a remake of troll. >> C. If they were larger, it'd be B.
[37:18] >> All right, C it is then. Uh let's continue. Devour Demon Hunter Lance, you want to talk about this? >> It's so hard to
[37:30] understand >> Guys, really quick. Where are we rating Devour as a new spec/a part of a new class in World of Warcraft? Does it fit wow? Does it feel good to play? Did it perform well? Is
[37:43] the rotation fun? How's the variety, the hero talents, the apex talents? Matter of fact, the only reason I didn't play it is I thought that I actually >> You have no idea how many people play it at a high level.
[37:56] >> Every every [ __ ] person. >> right choice then. >> I think they're a very cool class and I do feel like they play like they feel like a I mean a simplified but a modern version of of what a class should be, I
[38:10] >> Mhm. >> So I would I'd give it like an A or S. >> So I would I'd give it like an A or S. >> Listen, I don't play Devour personally. If we're asking me just on the basis of does it fit World of Warcraft?
[38:23] Yes. Yes, it does. Does it look cool? Yes, it does. Is it unique enough to where people are intrigued to play it? Absolutely, it is. So, on those regards, those are very
[38:36] high rankings on just those three. Um is it balanced? First season, it absolutely was not. The broken, the ridiculous some of the things you could would I would love to know what my numbers would look like on that spec.
[38:49] >> What? If we're talking about raw gameplay, I think it's a little too simple right now. I think it will expand in time and get a little more complicated and then the the spec will really feel fleshed
[39:01] set, which I'm very interested to see what it's about, but um I think Devour I think they did a great job. Is it an S? No, I don't think it's an S. Like I think an S is like Death Knight was an S. That's an obvious
[39:16] >> I don't even think Evoker's an S. I think Evoker could be a B. In my fits wow. Well, my opinion. Well, my opinion. Really doesn't. Me Now, if you went to
[39:30] a design where they're thicker, bulkier dragons and rather than it being like like Devastation Prez, [music] like they should have done four specs, four different aspects. Call it a day. That's what I think they
[39:45] >> Good thing you're not designing classes, buddy. >> I love Evoker. >> All right, man. >> When's the last time you've played an Evoker, Lance?
[39:57] >> You don't put Devour in B tier. What you dare minimum A. >> That's minimum A. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Take it back. >> Stop. >> But I think Evoker is cool, but not that
[40:10] skinny little model they have. They need I want those bigger dragons. That's what And I think they should have went time magic, life magic. it just What is that?
[40:24] >> Yeah, yeah. >> Is he? >> He's the earth warden. >> Oh [ __ ] this kid's crazy, bro. >> Is that what it is?
[40:37] Then why is there so [music] much [ __ ] fire? jackass. >> It's earth and fire, yeah. Like they
[40:49] >> It's earth and fire, yeah. Like they still breathe fire, but like the red I mean, someone's going to tell me. >> There's time. >> Green is the life. >> Life and then there's What are the other
[41:02] which >> This azure, right? Or whatever it's >> Magic's type. >> Yes, it's earth, yeah. >> I guess so. Okay. Um
[41:17] Let us continue the prey system. Guys, now it's time to rate the [music] prey Oh, buddy, this is going to be an interesting one. Guys, what are we rating prey on a scale of S through D? >> Put it right at the C.
[41:31] >> Listen. I'm going to be completely honest. When I first tried prey, I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this mode I think it's awesome. Um better than delves in the future. I was wrong, take
[41:47] Initially. Then after about my fourth prey hunt, I'm like, "Okay, is there anything [music] else to this?" >> It's a strong >> Yeah, I think this is a strong strong C. I don't even think there's much debate
[42:01] here. Um >> And it's only not a D because of its potential, by the way. Is the only reason it's not a D is >> Yes. >> Because it not be become something
[42:14] that's not ass. >> Yes, I agree. I think the future of prey could be [music] good. And once again, agreeing with Lance, that's the only reason it's not a D. I I think the content could be there. I
[42:27] think the idea is definitely there. I think we can all firmly agree this is >> It's just a C. And it is what it is. We don't have to We don't have to freaking sit on this for too long. The Arcantena.
[42:40] >> The Arcantena bangs. >> Yeah, I hung out there a few times. >> The Arcantena bangs. Like bang. Like 100% slap.
[42:55] >> It bangs. >> No, I'm wrong. It's a It's still a C. rating the Arcantena, I'm looking at like a C. But and not because not because I think it's bad, but because personally it
[43:11] >> The Arcantena is a C because as a wild player, um is it making me stronger brained? That's crazy. Because it doesn't it barely gets touched. I think if they had some better quest
[43:24] design there, kind of like lore walking feeling vibe, you know what I mean? I feel like it could have potential. But I I think it's a firm C. The Arcantena key, that's crazy, but you're
[43:38] right. So classic plus is real, but really it's taking too long. >> Classic plus, we Listen, I don't want to say we've spoken to people at Blizzard.
[43:51] say we've spoken to people at Blizzard. But we'll leave it at this. >> 2028. >> No, don't listen to him. We have not I have did not say a date. He is not a part of the Comeback Kids.
[44:05] No. >> Don't listen to that. Lock in that date. 100% don't listen to that. I guarantee you that's the date. You get like >> That kid's a liar. >> I'm Nostradamus. Stop it. Enough, okay?
[44:21] >> Past Past Arcandina. >> Yes, I went dude No. >> No, no, no, no, no. Stop it. You're going to get us in trouble. Enough. This >> Conversation's done. >> Uh no, we weren't there at
[44:34] >> Oh, stop talking. All right, the new delves with Valera. I have to do a two-for-one here. The delve system this expansion so far as well as
[44:46] Valera as a companion. Guys, what are we thinking so far? Delves, Valera, thoughts? >> Since leveling this priest, I've been doing a lot of delves. Really? All the [ __ ] Midnight delves are
[45:02] >> Except for that one in Zolom. >> And even that one I like. >> Hate it. >> In my opinion I still think delves are S >> Delves are S tier. >> Delves are S tier content. By the way,
[45:14] they made it way better for healers. They made it way better for tanks. And point are DPS cuz it's still kind of a pain in the ass. But still doesn't matter. Delves I I think they're an S tier still. By the way, just you guys
[45:29] this [ __ ] goes S plus. >> We're getting a lot of A's. >> We're literally going to get our very first S plus tier bit of content. Or do we leave it as A? And then go S when labyrinths come out.
[45:43] What are your thoughts on that? >> Yes. And A for now then. >> And cheesy rice. >> Uh they made gearing through mythic too easy, which is why I say A instead of S.
[45:56] Yes, I agree. They actually minimalized the value of delves intentionally to funnel people into mythic plus. Corny [snorts] hell. Absolute swamp ass design. Uh Civic can't stop joking about classic plus ever since that blizzard
[46:10] Something like that Trojan. The new dungeons in midnight world of warcraft. So you have things like I I yeah, I love them all by the way. Actually that's a lie. Den of Alerac ass dungeon, blending veil.
[46:25] Alerac What zone is this Lance quick shot? Everyone listen very carefully. Don't look. Don't look. Don't look.
[46:37] I'm going to give them time to answer. Guys, you answer first. What zone is Guys, you answer first. What zone is this from World of Warcraft?
[46:58] Uh How did you know that? It is Ashenvale. Stop. Stop. Stop it. Wow. Okay. Stop it. All right.
[47:14] All right. Uh the new dungeons are a B overall. Um There are some bad ones. Den of Alerac is one of the worst dungeons I think I've ever played. I [ __ ] hate that dungeon so much. Like so much. It's a
[47:27] terrible design. I don't even know what we're doing. What are we doing in Den is terrible. Yeah, you got that that one part in the beginning where you cauldrons and [ __ ] and then all three bosses are terrible. Like
[47:43] that. I really hope it doesn't have any gear I want. Ooh. Do that with me. Ready? Ooh. Yeah. yikes in the chat for Den of Alerac? I
[47:56] think I think overall I think we can go strong B, Lance. Murdher Row. There's a couple really good strong really bad ones. Um I think I'll leave them at B.
[48:11] great ones though, like Magister's Terrace was great. >> over half of them are good or great. >> So that means >> And then there's like three of them that are nightmare. Neltharus one of them.
[48:23] like that. Um but we'll have to see. Um now that. Um but we'll have to see. Um now Midnight Mythic Plus season 1.
[48:35] Mythic Plus season 1? Now if you're talking about my opinion, you're talking about somebody who's literally pushing at the highest level possible right now. I'm rating this minimum in A. At minimum.
[48:48] played more Mythic Plus this season than I've ever have, so I've ever have, so >> I love it. I think it's close to like are like neck and neck for me personally. [music]
[49:01] I think they did such a good job on both of those. The only reason I didn't play season 3 of the War Within more was simply because the alpha came out for season. So
[49:14] I think it's A tier. Wow, a lot of people are saying S. Guys, is Midnight people are saying S. Guys, is Midnight Mythic Plus season 1 S tier or A tier? We got to rank it right now. YouTube and Twitch chat, it's time to
[49:26] video right now. Sure dude, what's up? Good looking. How we doing? Good looking. How we doing? Rampus says A. Rev said S. Um A lot of S's. Holy [ __ ] Dude, a lot more S's than A's, guys.
[49:39] guys are sleeping? >> I'll I'll say >> I mean you have to think, Lance, it broke the all-time record four weeks broke the all-time record four weeks ago.
[49:53] >> Yeah. >> Like, I think it deserves it. you want me to say? >> Um, okay, let's continue. Um,
[50:07] we have the season 1 raids. Ooh, Lance is going to love doing this one. Lance, how do we feel about the raid design in Midnight season 1? Chat, you too, give me your rankings on the Midnight raid design, not not counting Spore Fall.
[50:22] >> It is the Blinding Veil. Is that what it's called? What the [ __ ] is that? What is that raid called? What Uh, Chrome I don't even remember. Chimeras? What's that raid called? >> Oh my god.
[50:34] >> I just I just called Chimeras. >> Yeah, I just called it Chimeras, too. It's Chimeras. >> Dream Rift. Jesus criminetly. >> Um, >> what do we think?
[50:50] >> Uh-huh. >> the first one. Spire? >> The first three bosses are pretty bad. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, the first three. So, you have
[51:04] the the [ __ ] monster guy, and then Sal Hadar. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Uh, Imperator >> Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. They are Voracious,
[51:17] >> I think these are >> They were so forgettable. You We don't how forgettable these guys are. >> Yeah, you know what raid was great Nerb'rub. >> Nerb'rub was actually a good raid.
[51:30] And by the way, so was best raid best raid me. Best raid last three weeks >> Mana Forge was also great. >> Um, um, >> I think it's like a I would say
[51:44] first three raids, I'd say it's an A. I would to it's an A. >> Yeah, it's good. >> I thought the the the blah blah blah of great. Both those fights are awesome. I thought they did good.
[51:59] I think I think we can rate this as a strong A. I thought the raids were really good. I thought the bosses were fun and it was just doable content.
[52:12] where they're like you're not doing that. Ugh. Not a It's not. It took so long to clear heroic Like it was exhausting.
[52:27] Exhausting. Now, with that being said, we spent 3 weeks on the last boss on heroic. And that was a [ __ ] doozy. >> Moroes is a great fight. >> A [ __ ] night
[52:40] Um very very tough, I will say. Let me turn this up. Wow. Guys, name the video game this is from. This music right here.
[52:54] >> [music] >> Um
[53:10] Wow. No, no. Oh, that's easy. Come on, you guys know this. This is If you don't know this, you don't know video games.
[53:24] video games. We have a problem. >> [music] >> Wow.
[53:38] uh Uh, not one person guessed it, by the way. >> Woah. >> Uh, let's continue. Um, so the raids we put in A tier. Uh, and then finally we had PvP. I I don't even think I put PvP.
[53:51] >> right on the D. >> Did I put [ __ ] off. It's not D. It wasn't D. I pushed PvP. It was not a D. It was D was anything war within. D. I would put it >> at C, then.
[54:06] Yeah. Yeah. >> We're not going to sit here and act like PvP is good right now, right? >> Um, wait a second. Glitter passable.
[54:19] Glitter passable. It's definitely passable. first major update for Midnight World of Warcraft. First up, >> S. That [ __ ] right up there.
[54:36] >> The Void Forge is S tier. >> You're counting bonus rolls with that, >> I did That's what the Void Forge is. >> plus the the bonus rolls are going to make your items better. >> Okay. So, guys, is the Void Forge S
[54:49] >> Okay. So, guys, is the Void Forge S tier, A tier, B? could agree. But, I do unironically agree with Lance.
[55:01] That is, uh, it's an S tier system, I think. They did They did a way better job than Turbo Boosts. Like, this was this was phenomenal. I don't even think we need to really talk about it. Um, Void [music] Assaults and {slash} Void
[55:15] Incursions. This is not Ritual Sites. This is the open world events that are that you go to, do a little, you know, little actions, What are we thinking?
[55:29] >> Hard C. It could be a D. >> C tier, D tier, C. tonight. YouTube, guys, we got to pick >> D. Actually, it's a D. It's the first D.
[55:42] >> Yeah. >> It's a D tier, the first D tier. Go for the void incursions and void assaults. >> Yeah, they're they're >> Really? >> It's just so uninspired.
[55:55] >> Wow. >> Like the same >> Uh-huh. >> that we've been getting. >> Every invasion or everything like that is just slop.
[56:07] >> Wait, as a matter of fact, I thought nightfall was better. >> By the way, I agree. Unironically, I agree. Um yes or no in the chat right now. Void assaults are D tier. That's all I need to know. Yes or
[56:20] no. YouTube and Twitch chat got to answer right now. Void assaults are D list. Listen, guys, something's got to Something has to go D tier here. And by the way, we're not talking about ritual
[56:32] We're talking about the void assaults, which are the open world events that happen. A lot of people are voting yes.
[56:45] >> I'd call them F tier. Holy [ __ ] >> All right. D tier it is, guys. I I sites. >> B. >> maybe A. >> ritual sites actually have potential to
[57:00] >> Yeah, I think they're actually a lot of fun. >> And you know what would be really cool is if they did things like you know how powers? They should do stuff like that
[57:12] >> Yes. >> Like just make it fun. Make it goofy. >> Yeah, like when you how they have in delves where you can double damage. They They should just add [ __ ] like that.
[57:27] fun. >> I'd say B plus. >> Wow. >> I really liked them. >> And now I think the rewards are pretty good, too.
[57:40] Oh, that's a good track right there. You guys can name the zone, >> Blighted Fjord? >> Lance.
[57:52] >> What? >> Enough. Enough. >> The Howling Fjord. >> Bro. Uh let's go on to the next thing. Here, let's see.
[58:04] let's see. Oh, this is a good one. Uh oh yeah, ritual sites. Um yeah, like I said, I think ritual sites actually have some really good potential to be an end-game pillar of content. I love the
[58:18] affixes tied to them. I think it's phenomenal. Um I love that you can scale it up very easily. You know what's happening. You can pick how many affixes you want. It's a mix between delves and um what is it
[58:31] >> Not Torghast, the other one, the corruption one. >> Oh, horrific visions. >> Yeah, horrific visions. It's It's just a It's a It's a literally two for one on that. And uh um I think it's really I
[58:44] think it was well done. I think if they put that at the start of the season and do. >> Yeah, it could be really fun, I'm going >> I know what they could do with that, too, cuz it's so much easier to do do
[58:58] You could just start throwing ritual sites >> You just do one for every zone. >> Why don't you just say, "Hey, there's a >> No. >> Kick your ass over there.
[59:11] >> The coast of Westfall. >> Westfall ritual site. be Naga there. It could be, "Hey, the pirates are attacking." Like >> It could be anything, yeah. No, I I
[59:25] though. Um I I like that idea a lot. And and like like like Lance said, they can with it. And honestly, they need to still do things to put us back in the >> As many things that you could do to make old zones feel alive and be used
[59:40] >> Holgar ritual site. >> Yeah, a no ritual site, why not? potential. Um, this point, is it better than the campaign of Midnight? Yes.
[59:54] >> Is it better than the brand new dungeons? >> Yeah, yeah. >> Is it on the same tier as the raids, >> getting a little bit boosted for what it hopefully can become.
[01:00:09] >> Then we can put it at B plus. >> Yeah. That's it. >> That's fair. >> Um, the next one is What is this? No, I I'm not That doesn't count. Uh, the
[01:00:22] Abyss Anglers event. >> I have no opinion, never done it. Once again, I'm wow brained, if it doesn't give me power, I'm just not doing it. >> I've done the event.
[01:00:35] >> I've done the event. Sadly, I don't First of all, the event Sadly, I don't First of all, the event design has potential. The problem is is tokens as possible is to just swim around and loot treasures. It's actually
[01:00:49] not spear fishing at all. You don't actually It should be called the deep diving treasure go [ __ ] yourself event. That's what it should be called. >> A country bear jamboree. >> Yep. Whatever that is.
[01:01:02] So, in that regard, bad in the actual design and whoever implemented it, F tier. Number two, the cosmetics you earned, absolute swamp ass. >> Just feel bad. It's like >> No, but I like that style of content. I
[01:01:16] I do. I really do, and I think it has potential. I love fishing stuff. I love But, I don't think they did a good job. I think it has to easily go to D tier. I'm sorry.
[01:01:29] >> Yeah, it's a D. >> But, it has to go to D tier. Something >> Yeah. >> And it's it's not as good as PvP. It's not as good as the prey system. It's not as good as Heronair as an
[01:01:42] allied race. It has to go to D tier. I'm sorry. I know a lot of people that never >> a hardcore wild fan. So, yeah, that's going to be a no for me, chief. Sadly. It sucks, breaks my heart, but they didn't implement it
[01:01:56] And it shows. Um, next one, day core duels. Ooh, this is tough. This is tough. Because, sadly, I'm not the type of guy that
[01:02:11] likes playing those types of games. Personally, they're never for me. I don't like goofy little mini games like Among Us or >> Fall Guys? >> No. I don't like things That's just me,
[01:02:24] and I'm not because I'm like too good for it or something. It's just It's just not for me. Like, if I'm going to use my time on a video game, there's a lot Especially if it's like, "Okay, but yeah, you can do it with friends and
[01:02:37] lot of other stuff I'd rather do with guildies than that. That's just me personally. I feel like day core duels are like I don't have a >> I never did it. This is the one bit of
[01:02:50] content this season I literally didn't do one time, not even on the PTR. do one time, not even on the PTR. I didn't test it out once. >> I don't know what to say. Yeah, I I have have no opinion. So, I guess I would
[01:03:04] >> Yeah. >> If If a majority of people never did it, >> Now, if you say something like plunderstorm, >> Plunder's [ __ ] awesome. Yeah. Matter of fact, I wouldn't mind if it
[01:03:20] sick if it was. To play during the downtime. [ __ ] I back next season. I hope it comes back tomorrow. I don't think that's going to happen. Ola.
[01:03:34] Ola. Hey. whispered to himself, "Do you think you can come, you know,
[01:03:46] was talking to Ion Hazzikostas. Nope, it wasn't Ion. It was my connect. Okay. wasn't Ion. It was my connect. Okay. Guys, I saw the board of leaks. All right. The real one. No one listen
[01:04:01] to this guy. Uh patch 12.0.7 Revelations. This is the patch we're on Revelations. This is the patch we're on now. Starting with the Omnium Folio. A man. I appreciate the love. 14 months, [music] that is insane. Thank you,
[01:04:13] buddy. Really, I appreciate the love. Um guys, starting off with Omnium Folio, power system that was just implemented into the game? into the game? It's a C. I mean,
[01:04:26] guess. It's there. It's going to give me more It's there. It's going to give me more power. whatever. But, it's not hard to do. So, I it's
[01:04:41] Yeah, I think this goes in the C tier. I mean, there's there's nothing fun about it. Yeah. But, it's not awful. I mean, So, it's just like And I'll be real, I'm not going to like I'm just going to look at what what's the best for my spec for
[01:04:55] it. And then I'll never think about it again. Like, I'll put it this way, the K'aresh Cloak was a lot cooler. X'erchi's Signet was a lot cooler, and those, you had to actually work for it, though. Not my problem. I would have
[01:05:09] some more power. I'm all right. >> Do you know how hard I would grind if it meant I'd get more power right now? I have zero power gain potential. I am completely best in slot top to bottom on my gear.
[01:05:23] It does not get stronger than where I'm at. >> I want to sweat. I want to spank ass. Welcome. >> Thanks.
[01:05:38] >> Welcome to the League of Legends champion spotlight featuring Skye, the absolute World of Warcraft degenerate. The Scott. Anyways, let's continue. Uh we have a couple left guys. Heroic world tier. Whoa.
[01:05:51] >> And once again, this is just solely based off potential. I'm going S tier. >> You're a greedy little goblin. >> Off of just potential. Guys, what are we ranking heroic world tier? What are we ranking?
[01:06:04] future. >> S or A tier? Cuz it's definitely one of S is like, bro, right [music] now it's money. Like it's money, dude. Like I wouldn't change a thing. A tier is like it's great, but there
[01:06:20] A tier is like it's great, but there could be improvement. >> What? That's how you do a tier list. >> I'm framing it as muah. It's going to, in its final form, going
[01:06:36] >> Yeah, in its final form freaking I'm 6'5 with a 10-in struts. In my final form. But guess what? I'm >> to It's going to hit its peak in last Titan.
[01:06:50] >> S. >> We're talking about now, man. >> 12 months from now when we're in last Titan, it's going to be an S. >> This guy, bro, is crazy. >> Next summer when last Titan's launching,
[01:07:03] >> I can't I can't with you. >> I think it's I think it's right near >> I think it's I think it's right near delves. I think I think it's a great needs some more time to cook. It's on its way and hopefully they bring it
[01:07:17] >> It is going to come back. >> Um next up is the Spore fall raid. >> Not yet. >> You didn't do it? Um I'll be the first
[01:07:31] one to say this is minimum in A tier uh uh raid. I liked it a lot because it's very pugable. It's very pugable. Like it's really not stressful. It's great for getting some gear. Good to go in there with some
[01:07:46] friends. [music] I like the fight encounter. Really fun. Uh easy to go in with some randoms. Probably fun to go into with some Probably fun to go into with some guildies. The gear is fun. I mean low
[01:07:58] fight. >> You pug raid lead a mythic one, didn't >> Um day one. Yes, I did. >> Really? >> I did. I did it, Lance. >> It's a good raid.
[01:08:13] >> I think this is an A tier boss. I think it's Is it better than the other raids? I think I think it goes in A tier. Man, the the A tiers are really high contention. There's a lot of W's around here. Um now
[01:08:27] >> [music] >> This can go either way. All of these. These are like Those could all go either way. I can go A tier on this. Um there could be an argument for S, but I think I think we can hold it at A tier. And
[01:08:40] then um we also had uh the transmog system. forgot to uh mention that. >> Put that right at the top of A, baby. >> I mean the the new transmog update was a big update. It was a good update.
[01:08:53] I think we can comfortably say it's an A tier. Um still a little buggy. Is there anything else? I mean all this stuff is future stuff like the Zuldazar campaign, the the egg story line, the troll war walking turbulent timeways, that stuff
[01:09:06] >> war walking now? Yeah, you can. >> Oh, can you? >> even do it. I didn't >> Are you sure? Wow, that's crazy. I Lile. >> So, guys, as of right now, this is our
[01:09:19] list, man. This is our list. Uh we have the Silvermoon City being S tier, mythic plus season 1, and the void spire bonus roll system being S tier. thinking about it again, those are all S tiers. Um next up, we have the transmog
[01:09:34] system update, the delves, as well as Valera. The new zones are great. >> be S. >> Um the heroic world tier system added in 7.7, raids, and the spore fall rate. >> That's fair.
[01:09:47] be completely real with you. Then going down to middle of the pack, we have >> Sure. >> they're good, but I think with their max content. Right on the side, thank you for following. Um we have the new
[01:10:01] them are bad, split down the middle. The midnight campaign, once again, some good hits, some questionable ones. Uh going to C tier, we have the PvP short of system as a whole. I think PvP drastically needs
[01:10:14] Um we have Herenir as a race, the allied race. The prey system, mediocre, but has potential to be either B plus or low A. They just got to really dive into it. And by the way, sadly,
[01:10:27] they're really not investing resources in it. So, it's probably going to stay >> any new voice lines. >> Oh, man. Uh Arcantena, just another mediocre system. And then the omnifolio, mediocre again. Like,
[01:10:39] could these could all use some serious love. Um D tier, this is like the slop fest of like all slops. The void assaults, really bad system, definitely just uninspired, could have been way cooler. Um it it would have been really
[01:10:54] cool if void assaults were happening all across the world [music] and they were invading like capital cities, invading like small towns, in like like bro, it's supposed to be the void taking over the world. Like they're invading Azaroth.
[01:11:10] Like what are we doing? What are we doing? They should have just copy-pasted Legion Assaults. Like if they did that, it would have been way better. But guess what? They didn't. And it's [ __ ]
[01:11:22] >> They were weak. >> So, not good. Um Abyssal Anglers, once again, could have been cool as a minor minor side bit of activity and content. Pretty [ __ ] Pretty [ __ ] Cosmetics are
[01:11:35] gameplay of the system is broken and not good. Uh D'ore Duel, same concept, man. I mean, cosmetics are whack. Housing appearance, you know, items are whack. Even the gameplay of it is very clunky and off. And it was
[01:11:49] bugged for like the first 2 weeks. Uh yeah, very tough. Very tough. But look at the list, there's a lot more on the upper bracket than the lower the upper bracket than the lower bracket. So, that's good. Um three S
[01:12:02] tier, three D tier, so that cancels out, but there's more A tier. And yeah, so technically right now Midnight Season 1 is big on on big hitter. Uh especially on the very key things like the capital being S tier,
[01:12:15] be here for [ __ ] 18 months, 12 months now continuing. Mythic Plus Season 1, phenomenal. Uh really really good. And then, you know, you you got things like
[01:12:27] delves are really good, the new zones are great. Uh the new class is great. comeback, can be awesome. The raids are great so far. I mean, damn. And I'm probably make another one of these tier
[01:12:40] season, like a too early to tell prediction tier list. Um but I think we're well on our way for a really really good expansion. Is an S tier? about? He's S tier. >> Is Zul'jin like himself as a character?
[01:12:55] >> I love Zul'jin. He's peak as [ __ ] I love him. Um but yeah, I think that was amazing. Guys, YouTube chat, let us know what you comment section below. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Do you think we're idiots?
[01:13:08] Let us know your opinions down in the comment section below. list? Be honest. No lies, no jokes. Lance, how do we feel? >> I rate that as an S tier tier list. >> You rate our tier list as an S tier tier
[01:13:23] list. Let's make a tier list of all the tier lists we've made. breakdowns. >> [laughter] patch breakdowns. And I like hearing everyone's meh.
[01:13:36] everyone's meh. >> [laughter] Nothing way out of the line. Yeah, let's hope. Heroic tier list. Oh my god. Let's make a uh heroic world tier tier list on heroic tier list.
[01:13:52] list on heroic tier list. About that. the show and then you're casually playing well, that's it.
[01:14:05] Lance just wants to S tier everything. Yeah, you're probably right. Um let's enjoy. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Do we have any form free outs?
[01:14:18] through everything I had lined up for the ever. Hello? Guys, what am I about to do for the next
[01:14:31] 30 minutes? Quick, Lance. Dance like a monkey. >> Um I don't know. Guys, is there any discussion topics we want to talk about right now in World of Warcraft?
[01:14:45] chat, Twitch chat. What are we thinking? in World of Warcraft right now that talk about short of critical? >> Can we talk about Camelot? Like the classic plus server? No.
[01:14:59] Camelot? >> Yeah, like Knights of the Round Table. the Knights of the Round Table. Yo, someone get this guy a body bag, >> What >> Sir Lancelot was a big deal.
[01:15:15] >> Uh Should we do a react video to [music] Should we do a react video to [music] Awues raid mythic plus changes? >> I don't I don't really know. >> of my favorite creators on Wow. He's one
[01:15:30] >> Yeah. >> I really really enjoy him. >> Did you watch the PvP illusion for season 2? I don't remember from the >> Yeah, you did. Um let me see if I can pull it up, but
[01:15:43] it looks pretty pretty crazy. >> Pretty pretty pretty good. >> Pretty crazy, man. Pretty crazy. weapons. It's pog, actually.
[01:16:01] >> All right, love Morgan. See you later. >> These guys look really cool, Lance. I'm >> they looked >> Um let's go to live reacts.
[01:16:15] notes are a first pass and a lot of changes may never see the light of day. >> Uh yeah, sure. >> Maybe not. >> I'm sure there's going to be a lot more changes. You know what's funny? Hey
[01:16:28] Mouth, uh call me when they decide to pick up the phone to answer any problems about Warlock because over the last 2 weeks we've gotten drain life updates, >> It's actually sick, though. Wait, that's sick.
[01:16:41] >> Stop. Do you play affliction? Green lights. Someone get this [ __ ] guy out of my life. [ __ ] Uh let's go ahead and add my
[01:16:56] pissed off look camera. Hold on, let me add this. from Lance. How's that look, guys? How's the pissed How's that look, guys? How's the pissed off camera?
[01:17:09] >> Well, actually Canadian, we literally did post our reactions to the WildCast as a video. >> Oh, yeah, we did. We did. By the way, you guys are interested. Uh we're posting some more stuff on the new like
[01:17:22] channel in a way. Uh let me see if I can send it to you you guys can go check it out. I'm going to be posting on there a lot more kind of like stuff we're doing casually now. Uh but just more content in general.
[01:17:36] about Guild Wars 3 today? >> Yeah, I don't know what this is. I wanted to check this out with you. Uh the setting of Guild Wars stepping this is about. >> June 10th?
[01:17:49] >> I guess, but why they What the [ __ ] >> We already know this, man. That's 14 >> Bro, they posted it today. >> them? They're pissing me off. I thought we got new update, bro. >> Oh.
[01:18:09] so much for the love, man. Let me put this up. Hold on. Chat bottom definitely over over pick everything here. Hold on, sorry. Uh better to be pissed off than pissed on, supposedly. That's crazy.
[01:18:22] >> That's actually That's actually huge and true, by the way. >> [laughter] >> That's crazy. Yo, shout out to E dub, show some love to the comeback kid supporter, man. Get some comeback kid
[01:18:36] icons in the chat. Show some love, man. Uh Get some love out there. Also, can we talk about how good the new tier one skins for League look? Wait, tier one >> Wait, the T1. >> Oh, the new T1 skins. What, is it cuz
[01:18:50] They got new ones? I don't know. >> I think the last T1's skins that they had they they had that one shed skin I'm I'm pretty
[01:19:02] >> Yeah, I'm I'm not in the League, no, these days. yo guys, I also had a couple things. Yo, what do you guys think, honestly, if they said, "Okay, ladies and gentlemen who've all played
[01:19:15] World of Warcraft, this is our brand new update visually to World of Warcraft update visually to World of Warcraft coming in Wild 2 in 2029. we think?" >> Well, that looks pretty good.
[01:19:29] >> Yeah, it's much better than what you showed me the other day. >> So, you like these designs? >> Well, cuz that looks like an orc still. >> Okay. >> That other stuff looked like generic
[01:19:41] >> Yeah. >> So, like this guy? >> Yeah, it looks horrible. to you? What, just cuz it's a new hairstyle?
[01:19:55] >> That orc looks as good as it can be. That one is good. That looks like Blade Master. I mean, you're right. Thrall doesn't lose his soul, I don't Yeah, I think it's very important when it comes to this like cuz this is
[01:20:07] someone who does AI art online. Um like look at that. >> Yeah, that looks fine. >> Fine? I think that looks amazing. Like if they came out with a concept art
[01:20:19] >> Yeah, that doesn't look good. That looks like a mobile game. What about this? Is this another night elf? don't even know what that is. Get that off my screen. That looks [ __ ] good.
[01:20:34] >> Yeah, that looks good. >> If World of Warcraft dropped some concept art >> Why do they use Wowhead's backdrop to real? >> because they just put this into like
[01:20:50] armor and everything off Wowhead the dressing room and then ask like AI to >> very cool. >> Yeah, the orcs look good. >> Yeah, the orcs look great. That was awesome.
[01:21:03] I'm not even going to lie. So, this is like the update. Wow. >> Yeah, that looks really good. >> great. I would love if they look like that. Oh my goodness. Wow.
[01:21:15] Why do orcs today look so goofy? Look at the difference. He just looks so like >> Overall, looks good.
[01:21:28] >> It looks okay. >> hair. Still looks goofy. >> That looks insane. That's so much better. >> Yeah, I'll say, you know.
[01:21:42] Feral and bear druids still not playing Apex talents in the season two. >> Zero out of 10 for me. I think it's an absolutely just tragedy that that's a season where they're not going to change anything [music] until next season.
[01:21:54] They're done. So, I think it's stupid that anyone's playing without an Apex meta. >> Yeah, pretty cringe. good night elf. I think the blood elves look great.
[01:22:07] >> No. >> I think it looks cool. >> I think it looks cool. >> No. >> Not a fan, dude. >> Oh, that's what's up. What about What
[01:22:19] naval captain here. >> That looks okay. Lance. >> Yeah, I don't know.
[01:22:31] Just looks like what's his name Castlevania right man is anything impress you my God just doesn't doesn't feel like wow, I don't know my opinion. She's hot and
[01:22:45] don't know my opinion. She's hot and that's great work. That's crazy. Show me the dwarves.
[01:22:57] Wow, that's nuts. Look at that. That looks good. That's crazy. is that? I don't even know. Human revamp Concepts. That's cool as
[01:23:12] [ __ ] I mean that's fire. Sure. Sign me up. The problem is they're trying to go more realistic but then actually keep the faces of the wild models and then we start looking like Asian. Yeah, that looks cool.
[01:23:25] sick. Yeah, that's sick. Yeah, with wild and not evil. Oh, that's the piano. No, that's me. What I look like I don't work out for a week. Oh my God, it's
[01:23:40] work out for a week. Oh my God, it's star. Oh my God. That looks like it looks like a Korean
[01:23:52] MMO or actually and that looks like wow. That looks like wild armor on a wild Oh my God, I don't have dwarves on hand. I'm just scrolling with you, man. Yeah, their elves just aren't looking good. Gorona.
[01:24:05] That's the one elf that look good. And there's feather one is there. >> I like it. I don't all right then.
[01:24:17] No. It just looks like a some Asian like AI It just looks like a some Asian like AI MMO game.
[01:24:32] >> That one looks actually pretty good. The first one in this. This looks good. >> That looks like World of Warcraft. >> I don't know what you're talking You're saying all these look bad. These look
[01:24:45] sick as [ __ ] >> That looks all right. >> Yeah, but I'm a >> Like that's very
[01:25:00] >> I know. I think for Eastern that looks that looks great. Even this this is really cool. You know, if if the game could actually let you have helmets and hats with your hair that'd
[01:25:13] >> Yeah. Oh. Um. >> Dude, that is sick. >> That guy looks cool.
[01:25:27] >> Hey Sky, I noticed you never rated the Storm Aeryn assault. didn't rate those. More cool hair. I hate helms. True.
[01:25:41] Um yeah, I didn't rate Oh, that's S. >> That's S tier. >> Yo, that's crazy. >> Ooh, that's sick.
[01:25:53] >> Enough. Enough with the [ __ ] Eastern MMOs. >> Okay. That just looks like Rivals.
[01:26:05] >> That's a void elf. That looks cool. >> Wow. Look at that. >> Oh, is that 2.0? >> Damn, she look cool as
[01:26:17] Oh, wow. Look at that. >> looks good. >> looks good. >> Damn.
[01:26:31] >> All right. Is this supposed to be an undead >> Base screen cap undead female revamp. What? They don't even look like dead. This looks like [ __ ] This looks like a god chick.
[01:26:44] >> It just looks like >> Lance's wife when she's mad at him. undead to me. None of those look undead. What? Where are the bones? You can't make a hot undead. That's not
[01:26:58] how that works. Their flesh is melted. That's cool. More rot, less thought. True.
[01:27:10] >> [laughter] >> True. So true. Yeah, see that's kind of better. Have the little bone on the arm there. Have the little bone on the arm there. Yeah, that's an undead. That's cool.
[01:27:22] Yeah, that's cool. Perfect. Perfect level of thought and rot. I love that. That's so funny. Damn, holy [ __ ] Yo, could you imagine a female barbarian like that?
[01:27:36] Bro, that's tight as hell. That's fire, dude. What? I'm liking that [ __ ] That is sick. Yo, that is sick. Someone's got to order this cosplay. That's what Star's going
[01:27:50] to be for Halloween right there. That's going to be Star's Halloween outfit, everyone. Get ready. Yo, that is fire. If Wow, bro. How crazy like how difficult would it actually be to
[01:28:05] Actually. >> If they're going to go and do that, they But then make a new engine and make a different game, man. Make this another game. What are you
[01:28:17] talking about? You were let's reset the whole thing. whole thing. They can't do that. You said reset the whole game when I said can they update their graphics?
[01:28:31] >> Yeah. >> What a ridiculous thing to say. >> New engines. >> You're trying to clip farm. >> Enough. >> Enough with the clip farming.
[01:28:43] the current game. Yep, wild too. Yeah, wild two sounds great but like I I want something real. Like this is actually doable. They've already done an HD graphics sort of update on the models, the character model 2.0 back in what?
[01:28:58] What? Yeah, okay. By the way, we've had the current HD model updates longer than the previous updates or the previous models. So like by quite the while. By yeah, by a hot minute. So
[01:29:13] I don't know. I I feel like this sort of thing is a post last Titan like >> I don't have that. >> Dude. >> If Guild Wars 3 could do it, wild can do it. Well, problem is is World of
[01:29:26] >> Well, no. The problem is they're printing >> They're printing money and it's like why risk hundreds of millions of dollars >> Dude, that is so >> for not a sure thing. Guild Wars 2 is is
[01:29:39] they're making money but they could also take a big swing and make way more money if it succeeds. >> Yeah. That looks bad. Wow. That's the first good elf they've made.
[01:29:54] [ __ ] time, yeah. That doesn't look like wild. That just looks like Guild Wars or like Monster Hunter.
[01:30:10] Interesting. It's fun to look at. Like man, I like I love wow obviously, but I want wow to evolve, too. >> some male draenei. asking for like specific race combos. I
[01:30:22] don't have it. Wow, look at that. Bolts on that? Actually, I think that was avoidable. Crazy.
[01:30:35] instead of a cooch out? Jesus. Yeah, nice. Now we're talking. Wow, look at That is so cool. Dude, that like reminds me of like early 2000s RPGs. >> Female blood elf.
[01:30:49] >> Like like why don't we have like beautiful, powerful, cool [ __ ] characters anymore? that energy? >> Alleria
[01:31:02] villain. I'm talking about like I don't know. Like literally that. >> Valeera, but I mean like in the story >> story. >> Man, you like do you [ __ ] have an
[01:31:17] >> when you're saying things that are wrong, yeah, I do. >> You're talking about one character ever in the game. Name me one character other than Valeera in the story that's with us on our side
[01:31:29] >> Alleria >> Alleria does not give that energy. You're a [ __ ] liar. Alleria gives that energy. Alleria gives that energy. >> Alleria
[01:31:43] >> No, you're missing >> This kid's just naming any blonde elf >> This kid's just naming any blonde elf possible. That's not what I'm saying. say anything bad about World of Warcraft. The the [ __ ] Blizzard
[01:32:00] police here. [ __ ] shill, bro. Guys, this is like I stand up to the to the corporate [music] shills. shills. And that's him, you know?
[01:32:15] private servers. I'm playing them forever. This guy's talking. Wow, look at that. That is so cool to
[01:32:27] me. >> You don't shave >> What about that? Wait. >> Why is that orc Akuma? >> I don't know, bro. Bro, whoa, that's cool.
[01:32:41] >> Literally you. >> The hell? >> What is that, kiss? >> It's got Gene Simmons as I don't know. That's I think that's all we got there, dude.
[01:32:54] Yeah, I I literally have nothing else. That's crazy. Uh, let's go to this. Boom! So guys, do we have anything else on the conversation topics of today? Cuz
[01:33:07] when it comes to live show, I actually don't have any other uh thing to sort of break down and discuss. Got nothing. Anything? Chat, what are we thinking? Any conversation topics we want to bring
[01:33:19] So we can uh you know, spew off and fire off some uh conversations. We still have chat. If not, I mean, I'm just going to get back to work.
[01:33:32] Look at him. He's so mad at me for making him come here today, dude. Man, look at him. You guys don't want to see Lance when
[01:33:45] >> Guys, I'm going to shave this little [ __ ] chin strap I got here, this thing. And I'm going to just go this and the mustache, and I'm start wearing cowboy hats. So.
[01:33:58] have a crazy idea for rating. Don't know if it could work. >> Spit it. >> Let's spit. I got a really interesting idea, but I don't know. I don't want to
[01:34:13] There's a reason why it doesn't have a sequel and Guild Wars is on the third. >> Cuz >> they need people. >> Cuz one game makes billions of dollars and the other makes millions and barely
[01:34:28] >> Crazy. >> Cowboy lands could work. yeehaw. Hell. >> Yeehaw. >> I'm going to BlizzCon in a cowboy hat for sure, by the way.
[01:34:42] Need some good boots. Yo, how much do cowboy boots actually cost, though? could practice the different phases of a boss separately with your raid.
[01:34:54] >> I mean, yes. That sounds cool. >> spamming phase two. just have to you're not killing that boss until you master phase one anyway. God forbid you mess up one time in phase one
[01:35:07] boots are stupid expensive, by the way. He's right. I don't even know what to say. I have a boot barn right by my house. >> Crazy. All right, chat. Uh we're going to head out of here, man. I'm going to
[01:35:21] posting on the main channel [music] tomorrow, by the way. That's the plan, >> Um >> and then, of course, we have our show Saturday. Check out the Comeback Kids TV channel for more updates. Also, the news
[01:35:36] well. Um if you guys want, go check it out. New news video was posted today. If you guys want to go watch it, chill out, watch some more Comeback Kids content. Um and yeah, stay up to date, man. Uh
[01:35:50] Going to be hype. Got a lot more content coming out soon. Going to do some PTR testing as well. So, we will uh we'll see you guys at very, very, very soon. >> Great show. >> Great show.
[01:36:03] >> Love you guys. God bless. We will see you guys Saturday nights. Much love, you guys Saturday nights. Much love, guys. Peace out.