[00:05] VTuber space over the weekend. In particular, weekend. In particular, um there is a VTuber called Cinder. um there is a VTuber called Cinder. Yeah, Cinder who is well her theme is [00:21] like a hellhound type thing. And it has been revealed that she's been basically been revealed that she's been basically sabotaging other people's uh art contracts 67. So So basically if you [00:38] commission art from an artist called Nanalus who is very is very good art. What Cinder would do is pressure that [00:52] artist to basically dump your commission because she wanted to be the only person because she wanted to be the only person who had Manalith's art which is very who had Manalith's art which is very sort of yeah it's very messed up and [01:06] sort of yeah it's very messed up and very jealous and all of that and I don't want to exactly address that at the moment. What I want to address is some of the people who have been going around saying, "Oh, this is very mean girls [01:19] saying, "Oh, this is very mean girls behavior or it shows that underneath V tubing there's a sort of toxic undercurrent." And I think honestly that they're wrong because in every industry that I have been involved in and in [01:35] that I have been involved in and in every sort of sector of sort of human existence, every subculture, etc., etc., I've always met and crap people. Yeah, there are crap people in every job. I don't think it's a Vtubing [01:50] thing. I think it's just a person thing. And I don't think it's uh even a woman thing because there was this isn't the only case of something like this happening. Previously, there's been a [02:05] happening. Previously, there's been a case with a company called Mad Scientist Media. Five, six, seven, eight. Yep. who were sabotaging other people's [02:17] were sabotaging other people's uh VTuber careers and that was done by a uh VTuber careers and that was done by a guy. I think it's just yeah crap people and mean people that doesn't that's not a sex thing. It's not a gender thing. [02:30] It's a person people thing. And if you have a group of large enough of people, have a group of large enough of people, there's always going to be one or two nasty crap people who ruin it for everybody [02:43] else. It's the unfortunate truth of the matter. And the best thing we can do is create systems that that allow us to find those type of people and protect [02:55] ourselves from those type of people. sort of be aware and have our keep our sort of be aware and have our keep our eyes open and our ears to the