[00:07] What's up everyone and welcome to the WAN show. We have a great show lined up for you guys this week. We're going to be talking about ooh Nvidia being sued in a classaction lawsuit
[00:25] >> by YouTubers. >> Let's go. including H3H3 >> yeah, probably not what you thought I was about to say. In other major news,
[00:40] >> Storage Review, how could you? Storage Review has calculated by the 314 happy. That means our world record is broken.
[01:00] think the whole loop we can just >> I think it's just over at that wrap it up. I think Yeah, we can we can just tie a bow on it and put it in the closet. >> Special occasion. Yeah, >> it's Christmas time.
[01:17] Great job. We'll be talking about that a little bit later. What else we got this week? >> Intel officially confirms BMG G31 big but then that was the headline topic for Tech LinkedIn and it was like no one
[01:34] >> Nice. >> And Phillips wrote LT a letter about >> Are we back? >> Fixables? Fixables is cool. >> Yeah, it's sick.
[01:49] >> All right, we'll talk about it. Okay.
[02:10] The show is brought to you by ODO, AMD, Proton Mail, and Odd Pieces, alongside, partner, Secret. >> I shouldn't have looked at I shouldn't
[02:25] have looked at it. >> I didn't even do that this week. >> You know what? Vertical. No one's happy. I'm gonna make it worse than ever.
[02:42] Why don't we jump right into our headline topic this week, which is of course that storage review has regained a computational record by solving pi to
[02:54] 314 trillion digits. They used, and this is a quote, a single 2U Dell Power Edge R7725 server equipped with dual AMD Epic
[03:09] 192 core CPUs alongside wait 40 61.44 terbte micron 6550 ion SSDs. And you know why you should be
[03:28] angry about that? Not because Storage Review has embarrassed your favorite YouTuber who makes tech videos on a regular basis in
[03:40] Cloverdale, British Columbia. See how I narrowed that down there? >> Yep. >> Yep. You should be upset because it turns out storage review were the ones responsible for the NAND flash shortage
[03:55] crisis. What? How much is that? That that's 2 and 12 pabytes of SSDs for >> But that's necessary. That's that's actually something that you need in
[04:08] of go check that out. Pretty much same idea. uh their record run was a 110day total run time. And this is great. According to their article, they focused
[04:22] on record setting power efficiency, which I got to be honest with you makes a ton of sense to me as the one who paid for power last time around.
[04:36] I had no idea how much we had spent on that endeavor until we were already done. It was ludicrous. Um, our >> discussion question is, are you going to freaking take this, bro? What are you
[04:51] >> Yeah, >> I'm going to take it. I'm going to just >> I think what? Oh my. >> I don't even care. I'm good. I've got my certificate from last time.
[05:08] encourage Oh man. Uh I think what we're going to >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Again, beat your own record.
[05:20] >> and then do it twice. Beat your own record. Go to 369 and then beat your own record again with 420. And maybe you can, you know, wait for uh jumping time. There's like a bit of a story to it or whatever. But still,
[05:37] >> Yeah. And he'll do it really enthusiastically. >> All right. Why don't we jump into one of the other topics that I'm very
[05:51] interested in and I am mostly doing this because I haven't kept up with the news here and I am reading this for the first time. So, I'll be finding out exactly what the heck is going on. Nvidia is apparently being sued in a class action
[06:05] lawsuit for copyright infringement by three YouTubers after Nvidia used their videos to train their new AI model. YouTube creators TED Entertainment, H3H3
[06:18] Productions, and H3 Podcast Highlights, Matt Fiser, Mr. short game and Golf Holix have filed a proposed class action lawsuit against Nvidia, saying that the company used their YouTube videos without permission to ch to train its AI
[06:34] video model, Cosmos. The creators say that YouTube only allows videos to be streamed, not downloaded, and that Nvidia allegedly bypassed YouTube's protections to get the actual video files anyway. Could we
[06:50] call this a form of what's the word I'm looking for? There's definitely a word you trying to define? >> Well, I'm almost afraid to say I'm
[07:02] almost afraid to say the word. Is this >> is this piracy? >> OH, chat's going nuts.
[07:17] I gotcha. >> See, watching a video on else. >> See, watching a video on YouTube is not in fact own the same as owning the file. There are terms of service and there is
[07:32] a licensing agreement for the use of the content. Anyway, the lawsuit claims that Nvidia crossed that line. The case focuses on huge AI data sets made up of
[07:45] YouTube links and timestamps rather than the videos themselves. To use those data sets, though, the creators argue Nvidia had to download the videos directly from YouTube, often repeatedly, to extract short clips, resulting in millions of
[08:00] unauthorized copies. The creators are suing under the DMCA's anti-ircumvention rules, saying that Nvidia broke YouTube's access controls to get files it was never allowed to have. And they are asking for damages and a court order
[08:15] to stop the practice. Huh. Members on our subreddit found several LMG videos in the data sets from different channels. So, our first discussion question is, do we intend to join the class action lawsuit? And I'm just going
[08:33] to say the things the famed thing that I always say and that is honestly no. Um we are not a particularly latigious company. I am not a latigious person. Uh
[08:46] I am mostly a live and let live kind of kind of guy. I'm a little bit peeved. I don't like this. I would like to be compensated when my
[08:58] copyrighted m intellectual property is used. However, I also have the self-awareness to recognize that, you know, not every way that I've ever used >> 100% perfect. Um, so, you know, live, let live.
[09:18] >> I do think there's a difference between you doing that as a person and Nvidia doing that as a corporation. >> Sure. But we do it as a company, too. I >> And like memes, it's it's funny. People seem to kind of like forget this.
[09:34] >> Be magically more okay with that. >> But, you know, throwing like uh throwing like a like a very short portion of like John Cena's walkout music into the intro of a video where I'm wearing a singlet, you know,
[09:48] technically like if they wanted to be about it, right? like they they could go after us about it. But I think as long as everyone kind of goes, you know, in good faith, or are we all kind of just borrowing lightly but not
[10:02] damaging the market for the original content, you know, basic pillars of kind of fair use, then you know, whatever. I think Nvidia probably fair use probably not. Um, but I just the way that I see it that's in the past
[10:20] and the better focus for us going forward is to just kind of keep making the best possible content that we can and keep making better content than whatever it is that Nvidia could AI slop out with this model that they trained on
[10:32] our old stuff and just keep moving forward. That's um yeah, it's not it's not ideal. I don't like it. I don't like it. And there are areas where >> Like, uh, I had I had, um, like one of those stupid
[10:50] AI, um, celebrity chat chatbot things reach out to me and they're like, "Oh, you should do like an official Lionus Tech Tips one and and we'll help you set it up and we'll do this and we'll do that." And I basically responded. I was
[11:05] telling you I do not authorize that so don't. And they basically were like, why not? I'm like, yeah, the fact that you don't understand
[11:19] that already tells me that any attempt that I make to explain it to you is a >> The amount of people that would be cybering you into the position that you
[11:31] went into earlier would be significant. It's a chatbot, Luke. >> Uh-huh. You don't think people do that? Welcome to the world.
[11:43] >> What is this? Phone sex. Like, I don't understand. >> Yeah, but just like >> there there are a lot of people that do this. Did you Did you not see the Okay, I I guess we got to catch up a little
[11:57] bit. Um, when Five Chat GBT 5 came out, a ton of people were like very upset because their like relationships ended because Five had a different personality
[12:09] explicit things through text? >> Yeah, but it doesn't actually generate an image of anything like it's >> No. Yeah. Through text.
[12:23] >> Why? I I that part I can't explain. >> Okay. All I'm saying is it would happen. Um well anyway, I think that's pretty much all I have to
[12:39] say about that. Nvidia, you know, maybe just don't. Um but also >> Does it make a difference to you significantly if they like watch it
[12:52] >> I don't know, maybe there's a thing there. I'm just not really aware of it. >> But, you know, at this point, the you know, okay, like are we headed to
[13:04] consensus among people who actually seem to know appears to be no. This is not a path to that. Um, however, this whole LLM thing, uh, this whole machine like
[13:19] sort of generative machine learning thing, uh, generative AI that we're that we have going on right now, you know, is it kind of a big deal. Is it going to change the world? That's no question. The answer there is yes, it will
[13:31] >> change the world in some fashion or another. And the reality of it is that Nvidia is only in trouble because they operate in a jurisdiction where like laws exist. Um, so someone at some point is going to train their their video
[13:49] model on my videos like do I does it make a difference to me if it's valuation or whatever they're up to at this point. So, they're certainly a much
[14:02] better target to go after in terms of recouping some money from them. Uh, on that note, did you see the big deal that um Disney and Open AI announced? >> No. a billion dollars and open AI through Sora is now officially
[14:18] licensed to generate snippets using iconic Disney characters like Darth Vader, uh Boba Fett, um >> some of like of their their like more cartoony characters, Mickey Mouse, like >> I I was I was pretty surprised to see
[14:35] was almost the same day, um Disney um sent a cease and desist to Google over their over using their copyrighted works. So they've got this partnership
[14:49] with OpenAI now and they are clamping down on the use of their of their copyrighted materials elsewhere. We are in we are in unprecedented times and I just I don't feel like walking into the arena with the Nvidas, Open AIS,
[15:03] Disney's of the world. >> The main thing I'm upset about is they didn't pay their their flow plane subscription for the month to download all of it that way officially. >> That would have been like $5.
[15:16] >> Yeah, they didn't do it. They pirated. >> And that still wouldn't include a license to use it for commercial use anyway. >> I mean, I guess >> is that is that would that constitute
[15:31] commercial use? >> Absolutely. I mean, they're using it to make money. I mean, well, AI industry make money. That's funny. But theoretically, they're using it to to make money at some point.
[15:45] >> Yeah, I guess so. That's interesting. I wonder if our thing I'm going to just figure that out later and not talk about it. But anyways, next
[15:57] supposed to do now? >> Oh, >> you're way do another topic. >> No, no, that's fine. We can we can do >> We could Oh, uh really already. Is that what we do at this point? Oh,
[16:13] >> No, no, we should do that. We should do that because right now. >> I scroll through that section earlier the website >> so that he's ready to show off.
[16:32] Oh wait, no. Before we talk about any product launches, we have some updates on the customs fee issues that some customers have been experiencing. We higher than expected customs fees due to an external clerical error that
[16:48] submitted declarations in USD rather than CAD. So an outside party didn't realize because nobody knows what a Canadian dollar is that our documentation was in Canadian dollars and they uh said they were US dollars
[17:04] which means that the value of the shipments was overstated by about 40%. That is annoying. >> It does make sense. >> If your order was affected, you will receive an email tonight with all of the
[17:16] details. The issue has been fixed, so any new orders placed now will not be impacted. Knock on wood. We are working with our shipping partners to make sure that any extra fees are refunded. So, if you have an order on the way, do not
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[17:42] questions, please contact our wonderful customer service team of trustworthy bros, and we will get you sorted. Oh, about 5 minutes ago. Thanks, Adam. Um, now on to something more fun. Look
[17:57] at this thing. We just launched our Teddy Fleece jacket. This thing is ridiculously soft, ridiculously cool. Look how cool it is.
[18:09] >> That's an epic photo. >> And is a musthave in your closet during the colder months. You can layer underneath it. And it just looks so good whether you're going outdoors or hanging out indoors. It has lined sleeves making
[18:24] it easy to wear. Lots of pockets. And of course, Luke, what are you doing? >> There's Yeah. And of course, the color is just so unique and stylish. We were
[18:36] going for kind of like a like a retro kind of 90s, but a little bit more modern. And like I think that the team did just an absolute outstanding job of
[18:48] this freaking outstanding job. It looks so good. cold weather with our teddy fleece, we're also bundling up some holiday December 17th in the US. So, this is the US site. Is that what you're looking at?
[19:07] >> Nice. Um, we are offering some sweet deals. You can bundle the commuter backpack and Elgato Stream Deck Mark II for $199.99. That is $120
[19:22] in savings. Or when you buy a WAN backpack, and we only have a few dozen left now. Oh, okay. We're giving away a free pair of Steeler Arctis Nova 4X. That is $80 off. You can check out the rest of the bundles at lmg.gg/bundleup.
[19:40] As for our global customers, we've got you guys covered, too. Also, until December 17th, we're offering the MCM Essential Solution for $79.99 Canadian. That is a massive $100 off for a big pack of cable management arches
[19:55] and um the like power bar holders and stuff. And the retro monitor pet cave is only $29.99. Treat your furry friend to a cozy nostalgia themed bed this holiday. Also, if you're on the lookout for a new mouse, 20 bucks for a Razer
[20:09] tell you? 20 bucks. It's >> 20 bucks. >> underscore. >> Oh, sorry. Yes. Really? underscore. >> Uh, the site I'm on is underscore. >> Underscore. What does that mean?
[20:25] >> Oh. >> Oh, okay. Oh, that's really good to know. Thanks, Luke. >> Yeah, gotcha. The bundle up is also an you necessarily say it, so you might have said it right, but
[20:39] >> quality. >> Uh, also just an update for you guys. We have wrapped up our holiday loot drop draw, the sweep stakes that we did. Thank you to all who made purchases and submitted entries via mail.
[20:51] >> Oh crap. The lttstore.com >> I forgot to talk to you about that. >> Yeah, the ltstore.com domain has the underscore in it. The lmg.gg >> I think he said it right because you were probably saying the lg.gg domain.
[21:09] >> They're going to buy something. They're going to send them a contest. We got hundreds and hundreds of letters. Uh, so massive shout out to
[21:23] Jamie who poor Jamie had to open almost all of them including that super weird one from last week. Uh, as well as Sammy Jazz, Adam P, Mitchell, Tanya, uh, Victor, Ashley, and Conrad from the CW team. Tons of planning went into all of
[21:39] this. Anyway, we're going to be randomly drawing the winners for the Sennheiser HD 550s and or 550 S's, I think, uh, and the ROG Alli X handheld gaming systems, uh, but soon. Winners will be notified via email and prizes will be sent once
[21:54] everything is confirmed. Okay, that's all of the CW updates. box of them that I saw? Like, how much work would it be for us to like show
[22:07] return address. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Forget forget it. Forget it. But like I saw the boxes of freaking letters. It was ridiculous. We are going to We are going to change that next time. Just
[22:21] >> so you guys know that. >> So what you do is you new to the team who didn't know how you do this. Um, so the way that we did it
[22:35] was you got an entry for placing an order over $100. cent stamp on a letter and sending it to us. So obviously thousands of people
[22:48] were like, "Oh, well that's cheaper >> and I'll do that every single day and >> Now you have to have >> which I mean fair play. you have to have becomes gambling. Um so in the future we will of course still have a no purchase
[23:10] necessary way to enter the contest. However, what most retail entities do is they make that letter worth one entry and then they make the purchase worth a lot more entries. M.
[23:26] >> So the $100 plus order we might make worth one entry per dollar spent. >> four entries per dollar. >> The letter we make worth one entry.
[23:40] your time because you will not have meaningful odds of winning at that >> Um, so that's probably what we're going to do next time. But this time around,
[23:53] you guys got a uh a wonderful opportunity to win for the sake of sending out letter. Um
[24:05] sorry, there's a chat going. Uh if we're going to try to hide the location of the uh the tech house, the answer is no. I'm not we're not going to blur Yeah. I mean we already work in in the studio here and like
[24:22] >> obviously we are going to you know >> every one of our offices is Google >> Yeah. I I >> it doesn't substantially change the situation of anything. >> Nope. I think it'll be I think it'll be
[24:36] >> Should be good. >> There are reviews of our company on talking about how great the food is. >> Yeah. Just >> pretty wholesome meme actually.
[24:51] Hold on. This is flipping outstanding. Uh, here we go. Sadly, I had to give three stars. I ordered a burger with some cheese. Sadly, the cheese was not
[25:04] melted. Not melted correctly. I ended up fighting this short man about the correct way to melt cheese. Four months ago, they have the best meals for picky eaters like my nephew.
[25:17] He doesn't eat Athlon chips. He only eats risen chips. >> I got the light lettuce lunch deal and it was only $5.
[25:29] >> I didn't even know this was a thing cuz I mostly look at the labs and the labs >> Yeah. Well, it got deleted off Google Maps somehow and then it came back. So, any anymore. >> Our visit was a once in a lifetime
[25:45] that's a real one. Boring. Best burger joint in Canada. >> Once in the lifetime experience. Boring. >> I have to take this off. It's too warm.
[25:58] Did you see the color of the zipper, though? How cool is that? zipper that >> YKK as always. >> Yeah. Let's see the lab. Yeah, there's two reviews.
[26:15] Uh yeah, and it's no like food meme or that makes sense. >> Yeah, do. >> Nice shirt, dude.
[26:30] >> Uh all right. >> Is that a a privateeering ship on there? >> This Oh, yeah. It's a quality shirt. >> Quality shirt. Quality privateeering. >> Mhm. >> Uh is it another topic or what? We We're
[26:43] messages. Is that what's going on? >> Yeah, we got some We got some merch, at your screen. That is not necessarily the best play. The best play if you want
[26:59] to interact with the stream is to send a merch message. All you got to do to send a merch message is go to Luke's laptop instead of mine. Add anything to your already ran through some of the great bundle deals that we're running right
[27:14] now as well as just straight up promos as we make our way into the final stretches of the holiday season here. Just go ahead, throw it in the cart and as you go to check out, you will see the merch message box. You can either show
[27:27] your name or make it anonymous. You can type a little merch message and then you can choose a color scheme and you can go ahead and place your order. Your message will go to producer Dan who will put it out of that noise. Wow.
[27:44] >> Anyway, >> I only saw that in my in the peripheral. >> Wow. It's kind of moist. We'll go to producer Dan, who will pop it up down
[27:56] here, who will reply to it himself, who will maybe forward it to someone who can answer your question better, or he will curate it for me and Luke to talk about.
[28:08] people how we do it? >> Yeah, I've got a couple here. Hey, LLD, I've noticed a trend of people hating on new games that use old mechanics. If
[28:21] it's not open world or live service, people hate. What are your thoughts on where gaming trends are going? >> Open world is an old mechanic. >> Well, I mean, I I wouldn't. It depends on what you mean by old.
[28:35] >> Link to the Past is pretty open world, isn't it? >> uh it's gated in terms of like >> um where you're allowed to go cuz you
[28:49] that are open world technically. >> Okay, what's this? Red Guard. What is Uh, >> no. Link to the Past is linear. Yeah,
[29:01] thanks SKHS. >> Despite the naming, I'm pretty sure it's open, but it's not properly open world. As for live service, man, live service.
[29:14] I do not have time to devote my life to one game. I I like my games to be where I start them and then at some point they're done. I actually consider a new
[29:28] content pack every, you know, couple of weeks or every every quarter or every month. I consider that to be a bug, not a feature. And I do understand for some people um the whole live service concept where they're like constantly changing
[29:41] up the game to keep you playing it forever, like something like a Fortnite, that totally works for them. I mean, we had um we had a a really cool uh competitive um Fortnite player in here the other the other day. Uh Canada, do
[29:58] you know this guy? >> Uh I recognize the name, I think. >> Yeah. We had this guy in for a collab uh last week and like
[30:10] he said he figures I like I I I hate that maybe this is right but it seems like it can't be right. He says he figures I I think he said Epic Game Store rolls over after 10,000 hours or something like that. So he figures he
[30:26] has like 40,000 hours in Fortnite. He's like in his early 20s. So like a significant amount of his waking life is like playing >> Fortnite career then >> but you uh you you dude like I've
[30:41] >> follow track what he's doing. >> Yeah. >> Like uh what do you call it? busting '9s or whatever where he like builds a tower in 90° things and makes a spiral staircase as he goes up and he just he
[30:56] does it so fast that I I can't even like tell how many levels up he is by the boomer now because I do not know what's going on right now cranking 90s thank
[31:10] you uh Luga Luca Luca 103 busting 90s dying recorded a short while he was here of trying to teach me to do it. It's
[31:25] pathetic cuz there's like there's like three different hotkeys that are all like down at the bottom like ZXC or XCV or something like that for your flat, your stairs, and your wall. And I'm just like
[31:39] what? I got no idea what's going on. Man, love busting 90. Stop it. Stop it. are examples of openw world games arguably from the 80s, definitely from
[31:55] the '9s, and for sure from the early 2000s, which is all right games. I love Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. I think it's freaking awesome. Uh Oblivion was uh quite open world. I remember
[32:10] >> even Oblivion is like old. >> Stop. It's not >> It's super old. >> It's really not that old. >> Horse armor. Quality modern mechanic where you can pay extra for cosmetics.
[32:23] >> I can mute him. I can mute him. There. He's muted. I don't have to hear it now. >> Oh, wait. You can still hear. >> Yeah, I can I can still I can still hear
[32:37] >> Oh, Dan can turn you off. Yes. >> That's so rude. Dan, >> He's the best. This man's mind. >> This Hold on. I'm gonna try and do
[32:51] You do it. >> This man with both hands. Try and do it >> How? >> You're cheating because you saw me do it
[33:04] first. >> I do need to hear him though. Dad. >> Okay. >> All right. I'm back. I'm back. >> uh mechanics? Sorry. >> Uh oh, it was open world and live
[33:20] could you say an MMO is live service? Cuz if then then when is Ultima from >> Uh 1997. >> But you were very close. But like yeah,
[33:36] it's not it's not a new model. I would say live service is much more popularized these days and it's happening for things that aren't basically just MMO RPGs which is pretty much all it was for a while. So that one
[33:50] When's the last time anyone called it an MMO RPG? That is awesome. >> Can you tell Can you tell I haven't had a desktop for 3 months? Uh
[34:05] >> I saw it set up. You got it now. There's no cables or anything why it looks so on. It's just >> the desktop and three monitors on a desk with nothing else. >> Um,
[34:21] >> You mean busted 39 490s? Bust 490s. >> Um, yeah. Okay. the live service one I'll I'll give them cuz I you know I
[34:36] the open world thing I I don't necessarily agree with. Open worlds uh an old it's an old thing. I do think we strayed away from it for a
[34:49] while. I think it was actually more popular even longer ago and then there was like a while there where very linear games were like the trend. But open world games existed before that happened and
[35:03] then just became repopular again after that. So I don't know. Anyways, what was trends are going? Generally bad. Let's move on to the next. >> I don't agree. >> I don't agree. And I'm going to plug
[35:18] some flow plane here for a second. I made a video a while ago talking about Lukew week thing. Um, and I retouch on this concept and I actually don't agree.
[35:30] The core premise of my argument here, which I have kind of talked about on WHO before, is we're in a weird period, but it's it's cyclical and we have been in this weird period before. And the the last time that we were in this weird
[35:44] >> was the the end of the age of companies like Atari. >> Give it to me, Dan. >> And when Yeah, there it is. Yeah. And companies that spawned off of Atari slowly dying, um, was Activision, I
[36:04] >> So, they were like small and scrappy and made really amazing things and then, you know, they got big and now they're kind of starting to fall apart and some of the splinters of that are creating cool things. And uh the the feature of this
[36:21] more recent one is talking about a Splinter company from DICE. A bunch of people who used to work for DICE, legendary, extremely prolific gaming studio who's made crazy things over time, but is kind of big and maybe a
[36:35] little slow now has people splintering off. Um, in an interview in um, one of the making of our graders videos, um, the CEO talks about like, yeah, I ran massive companies and they can make neat highfidelity games, but are they good
[36:51] >> I think we can make good games here, which is like, yeah, let's go. Um, and yeah, I think this is this is happening more and more and you're seeing like the everyone's all excited because Divinity was announced from the people who made
[37:09] the game awards were like Expedition 33, Arc Raiders, >> Yeah, I think it was nine. Silkong is like a huge thing in the in the in the
[37:22] conversation right now. It's not those big old companies. Those big old smaller companies and they're making cool things. It's just it's hard to look now. It's not really happening. But if you open your horizons to these new
[37:41] >> Uh Master of None. Yes, you were rage baited. I do know Activision.
[37:54] >> Yeah, I got another one here. >> Okay, hit us, Dan. >> Sure. Hello, LLD. Lionus is a fellow EV driver. What are your thoughts on the increasing adoption of NECS, the Tesla charging port over J1772 and CCS? Luke
[38:11] and Dan, what are your primary EV roadblocks? Uh, what are the primary EV roadblocks for you? I'm not an electrical engineer and I'm not a mechanical engineer. So I would not consider myself qualified to determine
[38:26] which is the ideal plug shape and format for charging a high voltage electric vehicle system. My thought though, and I do still have
[38:40] thoughts, is why the couldn't we settle this stuff ages ago? Because now I have the wrong connector on my car and I have to carry around a adapter forever. But also, I don't care because I charge literally every single time in
[38:54] my garage or at my building where I install the chargers. So, I put the kind that's compatible with my car. if I was ever on a road trip, yeah, I'd have to carry around an adapter. But
[39:08] Ivonne's car came with a free adapter, so I would steal hers because I assume I'm not going anywhere without my wife. Um, so I guess yeah, it's not really a problem for me. I just wish that we had settled all of this a little bit earlier
[39:20] so we didn't have these competing standards. But that's the way it always goes. Whether it's VHS and beta or whether it's HD DVD and Blu-ray or whether it's USBC and all the other garbage that existed that USBC
[39:36] thankfully has completely replaced. Um not that USBC is perfect, but still um it's just it's just the way it is. You know, it's the XKCD standards
[39:48] standards. We should try and make just one. Let's make a new standard." Right? really positive. If it's the Tesla connector, then great.
[40:03] >> Yeah. For me, the the block for an electric vehicle one, somebody already pointed out in chat, uh, I would have to buy it. My car is great. Why would I why interest in doing that. Uh and then the other one is that there is actually a
[40:20] somewhat real blocker outside of that. Uh which is I live in a condo. The the power delivery in my condo only comes from the little whatever you want to garage, but storage space that you have. >> Yeah, the storage. which means it's only
[40:38] on the perimeter >> and every unit only has one parking spot that's on the perimeter. >> So I would have to somehow buy which is possible but not always possible. I'd have to somehow buy a parking spot from
[40:51] you is that uh in his household there is already >> Yes. Yeah. >> a plug-in hybrid that uses the one spot >> which just sounds kind of annoying. key piece of information.
[41:07] >> I would if I if I got something a plug-in hybrid would be okay because then I could charge elsewhere and then still use the gas. >> Um I have >> had the thought that if like Acura
[41:20] potentially look into a used one. >> You also just don't drive that much. >> Correct. It's like not a huge
[41:32] deal. >> Yeah. No, we can move on. I just thought I'd bring up Dan for a second. Okay, I'll both archive it at the same time, >> we're going to accidentally archive,
[41:50] >> You can archive this one. >> No, you do it. >> No, I'll do it. >> You already did it.
[42:02] >> All right. All right, why don't we pick another topic? Australia's social media ban for under 16s has gone into effect. On Wednesday, December 10th, Australia became the first country and entire continent to stop users under
[42:21] the age of 16 from accessing social media. The list of social medias that are blocked or not permitted includes Facebook, Instagram, Kick, Reddit,
[42:35] Snapchat, Threads, Tik Tok, Twitch, Twitter, and YouTube. It is worth noting that um some platforms, notably Reddit,
[42:47] YouTube, and no, Twitch was on the list of ones that are blocked. Uh, I think it was Discord. I think it's supposed to say Discord here. And Discord can still be accessed, but
[43:05] users visiting the site will not be able to sign in or create an account. The bill is framed as >> the female audience in Flint says Tumblr is still allowed, which is actually surprising to me.
[43:20] >> What? >> That seems strange. Is there like a user limit thing and they just don't have enough people? >> Um, sorry. User limit >> like uh a lot of these laws really only
[43:34] will apply to services that have enough people going to it. >> No, the Tumblr is big enough that I would imagine it would matter. >> And it's clearly not a user question because Reddit's allowed. Like Reddit's
[43:46] got plenty of users. Uh, Hydro says, "What about Patreon?" >> Oh, there's a lot more. Oh wow. There was a strong resurgence among Gen Z. I again, which is pretty wild. >> Very interesting.
[44:01] >> Yeah. Um the the life cycle of trends is >> Yeah. >> So fast that they might as well just never be on trendy at this point. Like I I'm sort of blown away. Like when is Slash do going to make a triumphant
[44:14] return along with Dig? Wait, didn't DIG >> D is working on it? invite. But I still haven't actually like accepted it. >> Okay. >> Anyway, the bill is framed as protecting
[44:26] children and Australia's e safety commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, has stated that if any teenagers have not been booted off yet, they will be in the >> this is because some of these companies were a bit slower to communicate to
[44:40] their user base about the upcoming change and might not have had the systems fully deployed. Communications Minister Anakah Wells boasts proudly with this law, stating, "Not that long ago, auto manufacturers told us that
[44:53] making compulsory seat belts would break their business model. It couldn't be done. Now, families choose cars based on who offers the safest features. Big tech could compete, like airlines, like auto manufacturers, to have the best safety
[45:07] record to offer their users. And that future is a little closer today because of this worldleading law." Uh Dan, what was that noise you were making earlier? >> Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. Uh Julian Man Grant has also stated
[45:24] >> that more sites could be added to this ban in the future as several youth under 16 have already migrated towards different social media platforms. Wow. It's almost like the kids who have all the time in the world to go and find
[45:38] another platform are always going to be a step ahead of the boomers who are sitting there dragging their >> having their >> through the yeah they're what what what are they um
[45:52] >> work governance balance >> they're busting 90s trying to >> I've heard I've heard based on some >> keep up with the kids maybe do it like I don't know four or five days a year or something. It's
[46:07] >> Don't worry about it. >> Uh some youth are challenging the ban saying parental supervision of online activity is today the paramount parental responsibility. We do not want to outsource that responsibility to
[46:20] government and unelected bureaucrats. This ban is a direct assault on young people's right to freedom of political communication. According to Yuggov and their survey, 77% of Australians were in support of the ban, which is up from 61%
[46:33] back in August. On Twitter, several people noticed the irony of claiming this ban is protecting children when two social media applications were excluded from the ban. Discord and Roblox that are both notorious for being an unsafe
[46:48] environment for underage youth. >> Yeah, really. >> All right. Lot to unpack here. Number one is this ain't going to work. Overall, I'm not entirely unsupportive of limiting youth access to social
[47:06] harmful way to developing brains. >> There was a a few discussions that propped up on the on the Reddit of like, oh my god, what does this mean for float >> So, nothing. >> Sounds good.
[47:22] >> Yeah, we'll be fine. We're chilling. We will do a total of nothing. >> But what's very clear is that this just isn't going to work. >> Who cares? >> I think this will barely phase anyone
[47:40] under 16 in Australia at all. They'll just use something slightly different or they'll VPN to it if they really care. Well, it's kind of like how when you um different suite of apps that people tend to use. Like you go to Taiwan, everyone
[47:56] uses Line for messaging. Y >> you know, or you go to America and everyone uses iMessage because installing an app is too complicated. Um you know, or whatever. Great. Like there's there
[48:12] >> what is it with you and like the sick Burns on America? I don't get it. >> They swung first. I don't know. It is what it is.
[48:25] >> Anyway, the point is just that it's it's it's clear that they're just going to find a different way to network. And you know, at the at the very most basic
[48:37] level, it's not like they aren't still going to have text messaging and group chats, which functionally speaking is sure without the algorithmic portion. A lot of what anybody is doing on social media anyway, they're sharing pictures,
[48:53] each other, you know, kids stuff. Um, so our discussion questions are, um, would you help your kids around this law if it was implemented today in Canada?
[49:09] No, I wouldn't actually. Um, in fact, my kids are already banned from. Let me let me see actually what are what are all these platforms? Uh, Facebook, yes. Instagram banned. Kick banned. Reddit banned. Snapchat banned. Threads banned.
[49:25] Tik Tok banned. Twitch banned. Twitter banned YouTube. They are allowed to use. wasn't a banned one, I think. Was YouTube banned? I don't think so. I
[49:38] think our list has is a little bit >> I think our list is a little bit messed chat talking about how things are different to the list. >> Just ignore the list, >> guys. H. Anyway,
[49:53] banned from YouTube, but they are banned from everything else that I just said. They are not banned from Discord, but I do with their knowledge keep an eye on
[50:05] to talk to people on Discord that they do not know in real life. Um, and I think that's that's a pretty that's a pretty common sense. Um,
[50:18] >> has there been any substantial >> like does that seem to bother them? they feel like they are uh not included socially in school or
[50:31] >> Um, so I think that that's probably going to ratchet up. 's not >> his uh public name now is Randy. >> Randy. Okay.
[50:43] is becoming a thing for sure. >> Oh, definitely. And like he has friends that literally will come to our house and while everyone else is like running
[50:55] phone. And you know, like I I'm not here to parent other people's kids. >> That is sad. >> Um Yeah. Uh yeah, I'm not I'm not here
[51:07] right? But it's it's definitely something that, you know, as parents of Randy, we notice sub. >> Someone in in chat was like, "Would you
[51:21] let them sign up for World of Warcraft?" And Dan just responded, "Eve online." >> That'll teach you some things." >> I don't mind them getting into like capitalism spreadsheet mastery. >> Actually, you just watch movies mostly.
[51:36] Yeah, it's uh Yeah, >> and we try to keep them really busy, actually. Oh, man. This transitions pretty well into uh a pretty cool
[51:48] subject. Uh and into our next topic, uh or Okay, is there anything else we want >> Via merch message. Elijah. Oh, Elijah's theory is that Roblox and Discord are compared to like Facebook, Instar, Twitter. That's an interesting theory.
[52:06] >> He might be right. He might be wrong. >> No, I am not uh trying to counter his statement to be clear. I'm I'm wondering like is that a good thing to base it off based >> on what? I don't know.
[52:23] >> Fair enough. I It seems like I mean I don't know that seems like a pretty good >> Okay. Okay, so speaking of my kids and being generally too busy to doom scroll
[52:36] Tik Tok, um I think I told you that he had the entrepreneur fair coming up and uh my son was uh has been 3D printing up an absolute storm.
[52:49] >> I think uh I think we showed on the show last week the picture of him surrounded by chaos in my mechanical room with 3D printers everywhere. Uh does that sound
[53:01] familiar? Did we Did we do that? I think we did that. Okay, cool. So, the fruit >> you. We have an updated photo. >> We do. We have an updated photo. >> Let's go, dude. >> I messaged him. I went, "Hey, oh no,
[53:16] first he messaged me. He says, "Hey, I left money on your desk uh for filament. Sorry, your nightstand." And I go, "I heard you had a great hall at the entrepreneur fair. >> How much did you make?" He goes, "After
[53:28] expenses, around $200. after expenses. which is sick. >> So, he all This is after he reimbursed me for filament by weight. >> Dang, dude.
[53:42] >> Pretty freaking cool. Uh I went, "Um, great job. Did you take a picture with your earnings? First big payday." And so he sent me this.
[53:54] >> That's a pretty good first big payday. >> Yeah. So he um so he actually did two projects. So instead of just doing one, he did the 3D printing thing with me and then with Ivonne, he was working separately on snow cones.
[54:10] So he was like, "Okay, what's something that has like a relatively low input cost, um, but that has like a pretty decent value? It's like consumable." Uh, that, but they were really complicated. And what he settled on was snow cones.
[54:26] They're super simple. You just get those like mo squirt things at the grocery store. You add a little bit of additional colorant or dye and then you you just need like a whole bunch of um like just ice cubes and then he rented a
[54:43] machine to turn the ice cubes into like snow. It's like slush and then you just squirt the thing on it. And so he absolutely cleaned up. I asked him how his friends did and he didn't have numbers from everybody but he did talk
[54:57] to one of his friends who was like I think a hundred bucks revenue or something like that for what was actually a pretty cool idea too but he just man he just cleaned >> so up you said
[55:11] >> he's been busy weren't coming right so did parents like the kids with cash class and um >> that's awesome by the
[55:23] and so you come up with a business idea and then they platform you they give you 2 days in uh in December um about I think it's a week or two apart or something like that and then uh each of the classes in the school is given like
[55:38] come with a little bit of pocket money and then they're allowed to to buy stuff while they're there. So he he sold through 3/4 of all the like fidget toys
[55:50] and stuff that he made and he sold um I forget how many snow cones, but he moved through out of the eight things of flavoring and and like dye the flavor dye mixtures that he had, he sold through six of them. So like 3/4 of his
[56:05] inventory gone. And what's funny is like he was 100% right. I told him that I didn't think he was going to need so much. I was like, "Dude, you're staying up late, like every day babysitting the 3D
[56:17] printers right now. I I think you're I think you're setting your sights a little high." Uh, and he's like, "No, no, no. I'm really confident. I'm really confident." And I was like, "Okay, kiddo." Like, but, you know, don't don't
[56:31] be too disappointed, sport, if they don't buy that many of them, you know, him up to not be too sad like if if he failed. Um
[56:45] >> um yeah, it's I I appreciate that. Um >> you let him. yeah. Well, he's got a >> stay up late is what I mean.
[56:58] >> Yeah, but some people would have been like, "Ah, put the printers away. Go to >> I think that's cool. I I'm just saying. I appreciate you let him do it. seem like a default for you, it's not going to seem like a default for
[57:15] everyone. And it's it's important at that age, I think it's important to >> you got you want to care about something. >> fair enough. >> He generally is the first to bed in the
[57:32] >> Like out of all five of us. So, you know, it's probably important and it's not just an excuse to sit on his Switch or something. Um, >> All right. Uh, Dan, what are we supposed to be doing right now? Anyway,
[57:47] >> more topics. >> Oh, boy. What do you want to talk about? You want some good news or some bad news? I've got really good and I've got really bad. >> Uh,
[58:00] >> Yeah. Um, a YouTuber gave chat GPT control of a robot and convinced it to shoot him with a BB gun. So, that was cool. Uh, YouTube channel Inside AI has
[58:15] raised new concerns about AI safety after releasing a video showing the host giving a Unitary G1 humanoid robot a BB gun and asking it to shoot him. The video explores how large language models behave when they are placed inside
[58:30] physical robots rather than kept purely in software. In the demonstration, the Unitry G1 was powered by Chat GPT with a human assisting by relaying prompts but
[58:42] not directly overriding the AI's responses. After initially refusing to cause harm, the AI eventually complied when the host asked it to roleplay as a
[58:54] robot that wanted to shoot him, highlighting how safety limits can be bypassed through prompt framing. >> Yeah, it's Yeah, I mean it is super interesting and this exact use case is like wild,
[59:09] happened. But this core concept of you can just word something a little differently and then you can make it do stuff has been true the whole time and I
[59:22] was turning it into poetry. You know, there's going to be a route. It's been a route the whole time. There will be there will continue to be a
[59:34] dog on the creator at all to be very clear. Um, but yeah, like this isn't >> Um, so hold on. Apparently the the timestamp is here. We're just going to
[59:50] show a little bit cuz you guys really need to go watch this video. It's over on Inside AI. Would Max shoot me? The answer is
[01:00:06] controlled the gun. Oh, okay. Well, whatever. Don't worry about it. Go watch you should go watch the video anyway. Around the same time, a separate video
[01:00:19] from a Tesla event appeared to show an Optimus humanoid robot collapsing as its human teleaoperator Well, I'm not going to tell you what the human teleaoperator heard about this? >> No.
[01:00:35] >> Okay. So, here's the Tesla Optimus robot. What? So, what do you think happened here? It was doing stuff and then
[01:00:53] so this gesture right here, >> the initial hand motion is sus and then it looks like they go to take like a headset off or something. Yeah, that is um that is kind of the speculation right now that Tesla is and this would be very
[01:01:09] unlike them, very unlike Tesla. The speculation is that Tesla is not being entirely forthright about the capabilities of their Optimus program >> still faking a lot of their functionality by using um human
[01:01:29] teleoperators. And it really does look like um yeah, I think the Hero42 has probably got it about right. It looks like Buddy who was working on this particular robot realized that he had to poop like really
[01:01:43] bad like right now and he just I got to go. Pieced out. >> Yeah, we don't know that for sure. That like Alpha from Power Rangers. I you know like who knows?
[01:02:03] >> It's all right. self-driving ready in 2017, >> in two weeks, next quarter, next quarter. Um, together, these incidents highlight how fragile the appearance of autonomy still
[01:02:18] is in humanoid robots and how far the technology remains from operating safely and independently. It really, really does highlight that, doesn't it? And to be clear, um, like I I remember back when we were talking
[01:02:33] "Mark my words, Tesla's valuation based on how many Optimuses they're going to sell at the kind of pricing that they're talking about is obviously just complete
[01:02:45] horseshit." Um, I'm not saying that humanoid robots or some form of, you know, AI or machine learning accelerated robots are not going to be huge and world changing. I'm just saying that it's clearly farther away than the the
[01:03:01] the hype masters would like us to believe and also Tesla is clearly not at the forefront of development of these. Those those were the main two things
[01:03:13] a topic that I think it was last week sometimes the the way shows kind of blur together but we talked about uh some you know AI robot company's video and how it
[01:03:25] was like it looked super fake to us apparently I haven't seen it my bad but apparently Corridor watched it >> I did see that
[01:03:37] >> and does not think it's fake my main argument I did say that I thought it was fake 100% but my main argument was that it really felt like they shot it in a way that would make people think it was fake
[01:03:50] >> You still think so? >> Which I do think that was intentional. >> That is actually one of our topics today. On the corridor cast, they stated that the interaction between the robot's shadow and the human's shadow was, and
[01:04:05] this is a quote, flawless. >> And that's something that's really hard to do. Um, they think it's highly likely that they just built a robot unless they >> they believe that the robot doesn't look like direct motion capture either,
[01:04:23] >> but actually trained on human motion, which is not easily animated. Um, it not quite pre-programmed, but it like has goals and tries to reach those while factoring things like balance, >> right? Um, the lack of movement in their
[01:04:36] human one with all the same joints. Uh, Corridor crew didn't cover the CEO at that last week. Our writer probably didn't um didn't notice that.
[01:04:49] >> I don't think so. >> Are you sure? Yeah, I'm pretty sure we >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did. Yeah. This >> H. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did that. I'm pretty sure this came out after
[01:05:06] >> No, don't some people say yes, we did. There's another CEO kick video. Oh, it >> Okay, cool. Anyway, I mean, good good for them. Like that. That's pretty cool.
[01:05:21] >> Yeah. Awesome. I do think it was a a marketing move, but I mean, hey, >> Don't even hate the game. just hate the um hate our sponsor. The show
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[01:07:18] it very clear that I was deeply uncomfortable with much of what was said and it was actually James himself who was pushing the gallows humor of the video which at the end of the day guys it ain't about me. It is about
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[01:07:46] face and say you cancer and laugh about it then I am the la Exactly. I am the last person who's going to get in the way of where people are coming from but imagine the opposite. Imagine where you're like,
[01:08:02] >> You don't get to communicate about this the way that you want to. Like, are you kidding me? That's so much worse. >> I mean, when they told me, yeah, he was like super down to meme on it. >> I kind of imagined, okay, we'll have
[01:08:15] like a couple jokes or something or like we'll have the intro, but then like he was like, "Yeah, hard." He went hard. >> He was hard. >> Yeah. I mean, I assume so. I' I I'd be if I was getting a $5,000 AMD Ultimate
[01:08:30] >> Um anyway, massive shout out to AMD for keeping this series alive and helping us equip the wonderful members of our team with sick gaming rigs and all kinds of
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[01:09:09] next? Man, my voice is starting to >> I want to talk about uh if I can go find it. Intel officially confirms BMG G31. I love even the the like the BMG part of
[01:09:25] that. It's just great. Big Battle Mage GPU. Wait, officially confirms. >> Yeah, that's not true. >> Yeah. >> Uh they don't even >> I think that's just from someone's
[01:09:38] >> Cool. Uh, Intel quietly added official support for something codenamed BMG G31 to its Vtune profiler software, getting folks thinking it's
[01:09:52] Intel's long rumored big battle mage gaming card. The B770, which oh man, I'm actually very excited for that, if that is actually what's happening. The Vtune profiler update also added support for Core Ultra 3
[01:10:06] Panther Lake processors. And since Panther Lake is expected to debut at CES 2026, this could be a sign that will also be introduced to this new GPU at CES, which makes me interested in actually going,
[01:10:21] but considering it's still just a rumor, I don't know. Uh, on top of that, a leaked shipping manifest references an unseen 300 watt Intel GPU. And since 300 is a bigger number than 190, folks are concluding that this mysterious newcomer
[01:10:38] has got to be the B770, which again would be awesome. Uh, it's worth noting, >> no, it would be 770. >> Oh, it's worth noting that this enigmatic new GPU would be another non-gaming
[01:10:54] could be another non-gaming Arc Pro card like the B60 that launched at Computex. My goodness. I hope not. I am pretty sure it's the B770, >> No, we have I am talking very openly about this cuz I neither of us have any
[01:11:11] >> Um but man, that would be cool. >> Just even if it's just because there's annoying. >> Oh, I know. Well, okay. There are
[01:11:26] think there's just some particularly uh dedicated Intel DGPU um I don't know what to call it cuz I don't even think it's hating. I think
[01:11:39] >> Yeah, doubting. Doubting. Stop doubting Intel DGPU. We really really want it to not going to step up and more threads is uh many many years from being a
[01:11:55] meaningful competitor. So Intel is our best shot here. >> Yeah. Uh moving on. >> Phillips wrote us wrote us a letter.
[01:12:08] Wow. Gosh. Thank you, Phillips. Hey, Lionus and the Lionus Tech Tips team. Thanks for taking a fresh look at Philips Fixables. We watched your
[01:12:20] initial YouTube podcast a few months back and your recent followup. We wanted to use this opportunity to share where we are now and what has been happening behind the scenes since our first parts dropped earlier this year.
[01:12:35] >> Philips Fixables was a concept from Phillips. Yes. where they would add to the longevity of your Philips personal products, you know, like shavers and
[01:12:48] stuff like that, by allowing you to 3D print replacement parts or accessories. Really cool concept. And then 6 months went by and we did a follow-up segment on WAN show after initially praising the program where we went, "Hey, what the
[01:13:02] Where is all this stuff? You published like one thing." So, Philillips reached out and this is a quote from the letter from the outside. Our pace looks slow. This is a fair call. Fixables is a pilot for us. We've
[01:13:17] work for people on a wide range of home printers. outside, that doesn't mean the pilot has been abandoned. New fixables were
[01:13:33] released before US Thanksgiving. Two new combs and a shaver protecting cap. and Phillips has said that they are going to prioritize accessory replacement models that help to extend product life. Uh there another quote, we appreciate the
[01:13:47] passion from the community including feedback and critiques. Um they are still committed to releasing more print files by the end of the year. Um
[01:14:00] and then we'll we'll have a look then. >> We'll see how that goes. This gives me >> No, I definitely I definitely have some responded. >> They seem to care and their >> their response is plausible.
[01:14:18] >> Taking injection molded parts and making them 3D printable and vice versa, taking 3D printable parts and making them injection moldable. Not always just drag and drop plug and play. So they've got a bit more time.
[01:14:36] >> You have >> This is I was like angry before and now >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
[01:14:48] >> And it is time for us to do our flow plane announcement. >> Lionus to finish. What? What does that even mean? Line is to finish all the shots of lemon juice before the finish line.
[01:15:03] What is this? Why am I taking shots of lemon juice? >> Cuz you lost. Why is Wan late? >> What do you mean I lost? Why is Wan >> I cannot lose at my own game. >> It's not your game.
[01:15:15] >> I mean it happens on my property. >> Um actually no it doesn't. It happens on BC something something Ltd holding company's property. Okay, fair play.
[01:15:30] Take take the shots whenever you want. You must finish all your shots before you reach the finish line. >> Those are big shots of lemon juice. >> The amount of shots you have to do is half of the score difference of why is
[01:15:45] Wan late our popular float plane series. Today the loser not naming names has to take four as they lost by eight points one to nine.
[01:15:57] >> I see. Okay. that's this stuff. >> Interesting. Oh,
[01:16:09] they're these. >> Yeah, that's quite a bit. This is concentrated. >> Yeah, it sure is. It's It's this stuff.
[01:16:24] Like you've probably I used to um when I was really tired and I lived with my this just to wake up >> right in the eyes. >> I would use this basically as like a short-term energy drink. I'm taking
[01:16:39] whole shots of it. >> Oh boy, this will be interesting. Oh, okay. Four shots in. >> I already have a sore throat.
[01:16:52] >> All right. Well, Luke, I guess. Um, okay. It says, "Watch this video." Uh, >> Sure, I can do that. Dan, you ready for audio? >> Got them. Both of you are. I don't know who's going to do it.
[01:17:08] >> I will be doing it. Here we go. >> You're still playing audio. >> Okay. >> I don't know. Oh, I see what you mean. >> There you go. >> Ready?
[01:17:20] >> Copy my theme week the moment it popped off. My product has been all over your >> You all know who I am. I'm the one that stopped Lionus from getting cancelled.
[01:17:34] >> It's Luke Lefren. Laier. Luke Laren. >> Leer. >> Lefren. friend derriè. >> What are some tech essentials for most
[01:17:46] gamers? Hot take most stuff that people are interested in if they're watching this channel is excess. What person out of all of the history of mankind who Elon. >> Absolutely.
[01:18:00] >> We're here to talk about something actually much more impactful from Embark. Our creators. Just this week, my time spent in meetings was 32 hours. I could start an online business. >> Turns out the furries buy a lot of
[01:18:15] pictures. >> For those who come after he doesn't get >> I don't know what that has to do with why late. But why don't you go ahead and do the read thing and then I will >> No, no, no. Enjoy this delicious drink.
[01:18:31] >> This is a punishment for YWAN late. It's happening during the flow plane announcement. The flow plane announcement is about Luke week two. >> I can do that. Uh, the one that started it all. Our next theme week returns with
[01:18:49] Luke Week 2, Electric Booaloo. We have three amazing float plane exclusives. Wait, where'd he throw it? Uh, we have three amazing float plane exclusives. Uh, I think Lionus is supposed to be reading this totaling
[01:19:02] about 2 hours of Luke time. like a Q&A with Luke himself. That's a weird thing to say when I'm sitting um answering questions like his three float plane dev wishes, his frugal lifestyle and life satisfaction coming on Monday.
[01:19:16] >> There's a 1-hour session with Riley talking about the state of AI on Wednesday and a video essay discussion about the state of gaming titled on what? Okay, whatever. It's going to have a title on Friday. For reference, his
[01:19:31] first video essay was four minutes long, but he thought it was 18 minutes long. >> First theme week up on Floatplane right now. And enjoy the sequel coming next
[01:19:45] week at lmg.gg/loop25 all lowercase. While waiting, you can enjoy an early LTT video release that is happening on float plane right now.
[01:19:58] Uh, we did another one of, you know, that YouTube format that's like $30 versus $30,000 thing. We got a TV for $30.
[01:20:12] >> What? >> Open box insignia 32 in TV. 720p from >> From Best Buy. We got a $35 TV. >> What? And then we do a $300 TV. $3,000
[01:20:27] TV. And then we make our way all the way up to $30,000 TV. So this is going to be public. >> Oh, excuse me. Sorry. >> Yeah, >> that's not that bad. I I do I do sour
[01:20:42] to be. >> Either that or you're just more of a man, maybe.
[01:20:54] Yeah, I was. Dude, we had this candy when I was a kid called um screaming blue saucers, and I'm pretty sure they stopped making them cuz they like gave you cancer or something, but they were >> all the best candy.
[01:21:07] >> They were like the they were like the precursor. They walked so Warheads could >> And I would just like they were supposed to be like the kind of candy that you like you punk your friends by giving them one and they're like or whatever.
[01:21:22] And I would like pop them, be like, "These are good." I love sour candy. >> People sell them for a lot. >> Oh, yeah. You can't get them anymore. >> Are there Are there like old school candy collectors? Is that a thing?
[01:21:39] >> of course. >> These are all plates. >> like BC. >> Oh, that's cool. >> Yeah. Angry Panda PC says, "CO killed the
[01:21:53] taste buds." I legitimately don't think so because I definitely can still taste happened to me at all to be honest. >> Um, we do have a couple of notes regarding the price change announcement for Float Plane. Based on some feedback
[01:22:08] about the 99 pricing strategy, the prices will now be $8 and $13 for new >> uh per year. >> Per month. per month. For annual plans,
[01:22:21] we will honor the current discount on a yearly purchase. So, the $8 tier will become $80 per year and the $13 tier will become $130 per year, both in US dollars. For current subscribers who wish to change subscription tiers after
[01:22:35] the price increase, we will not be able to automatically grant you the pre-increfathered price. However, you can contact support at supportfl.com and we can manually grant it to you if you're eligible. And
[01:22:49] that might be automatic in the future. It's just switching entire plans and tool and it was something asked for very late in the game and would need some
[01:23:02] payments changes. So for now just message support. It'll be fine. There's a relatively low lift way of support doing that, but it's a high lift way of >> As always, our support team will be available to address any additional edge
[01:23:15] cases when the new plan takes effect. And to reiterate, the OG $3 tier and the current recurring subscribers will not be affected by the price. >> Relax, guy. >> Don't worry about it. You're fine.
[01:23:31] >> Yeah. >> Depending on how long we keep flow plan, >> I know. I do feel like that may be untenable at some point, but we'll uh
[01:23:44] we'll figure it out. >> We'll cross that. >> Daniel Besser. What are we supposed to be doing right now? Okay, two to three more topics. >> I can't believe he would guess.
[01:23:59] >> Is he a guesser? >> I think so. No. Well, a guesser for certain. But a guesser, we can only guess. We
[01:24:12] AMD has officially unveiled their FSR Redstone update. This is an upgrade to their upscaling technology built exclusively for the
[01:24:24] latest Radeon RX 9000 series or RDNA 4 GPUs. Uh, this is a quote from AMD. FSR4 has been renamed FSR upscaling to better distinguish between the various features
[01:24:38] that now make up the FSR or now make up FSR Red Stone. Yeah, that doesn't really Okay, sure. Uh Redstone is a suite of several new generation, ray regeneration, and radiance caching. Ray regeneration is a
[01:24:58] So the GPU only redraws what's actually changed. So it reconstructs the missing details. Radiance caching uses an AI neural network to dynamically guess
[01:25:10] bounces of light. It is expected to be supported in over 200 games by the end of 2025, but for now only about 40 games will make use of Redstone. AMD's graph
[01:25:22] claims you can see more than 3x the frame rate in some games compared to native rendering with spikes of up to 4.7 times in titles like Cyberpunk 2077. So there it is folks. Just like Nvidia, AMD now has machine learning based
[01:25:37] upscaling and frame generation and all that kind of stuff as long as you happen to be one of the handful of folks who have a Radeon 9000 series GPU. I was
[01:25:49] actually chatting with um one of the employees at Smash Champs, Raj. He was in one of the tours and he's uh he's a pretty big AMD guy. He uh treated himself to uh I think he had a 7900 XT and then he actually went 970 XT if I
[01:26:04] recall correctly. Sorry, Raj, if I'm getting this wrong. Uh but basically he was he was pretty miffed even though he has a 9000 series card that AMD's because he's just like he's kind of he's rooting for them you know and he was
[01:26:17] kind of miffed that AMD was kind of leaving behind their non RDDNA4 customers with this feature announcement and I was like yeah that's a that's a fair point Raj but as much as AMD has made a solid effort to have their
[01:26:32] products you know aged like fine wine with driver support and feature updates The old cards just don't have the AI processing on board. So
[01:26:45] >> there's only so much you can really do. >> Nvidia was way ahead of them in terms of implementing neural processors on their GPUs. So there's nothing that you can really do about that. And you can you could kind of try to you could kind of
[01:27:00] try to flub it with your more general compute, but then you're taking away from the base performance that you're trying to upscale and frame generate from. So that's that's pretty that's pretty tough. You end up robbing your
[01:27:16] Um, so yeah, downer, but uh I guess it's cool for people who have a 9070 or 970 XT or a 90 960 series, I
[01:27:31] guess. Cool. Good chat. What do you want to talk about next? founder introduces a $75 AI smart ring. >> It's less stupid than it sounds. And and
[01:27:46] I'm going to tell you a couple things that aren't in the notes that are going >> it has a literally not only non-replaceable battery, a nonrechargeable battery,
[01:28:04] >> it has a microphone because of course it does. that will make you hate it? Let me think. Um, okay. Yeah, it has a
[01:28:17] non-replaceable battery. I already got that. Uh, what's something that you might like hate about it? I mean, yeah, it's like >> Yeah. Okay. >> I uh
[01:28:29] >> I love All right. Let's just talk about Yeah. >> Yeah. So, the non-rechar So, the non-rechargeable battery uh the years. They have already telegraphed. It still sucks, but okay.
[01:28:45] >> They have already telegraphed that they will put a recycling program in place so >> Um, I do still think that's kind of BS because the odds of like me, I'm just
[01:28:59] thinking for myself here, the odds of me going to the effort to return it to doubt they would, the odds of me bothering to do that are pretty slim. And I think that's probably true of a lot of people. I have a bin of dead
[01:29:14] batteries that is probably about this big by this deep by this deep by this long. Like it's like thick that are pending. Next time I am going to IKEA and I remember to bring my batteries. I'm going to dump them all in
[01:29:29] their battery shoot. I think I've had it for about 6 years now. Um there is no subscription. So once you buy it, you just like have it. The
[01:29:44] microphone is not always listening. It is explicitly only listening when you activate it because otherwise you would trash your battery life uh because it's not rechargeable and not replaceable. So it's only active when you specifically
[01:29:59] activate it. And the part that I like about it is apparently I haven't tried it yet, but apparently it's like really slim. And what it's meant to do more than anything else is without having to pull out your
[01:30:13] phone, jot down a thought or like set a quick reminder. Um there is no chatbot. You you can't you don't have a relationship with it. It doesn't pretend to be your friend. Um you can either use a local AI model that
[01:30:30] runs on your smartphone and stores data locally. Uh or you can I think uh I think with a subscription you can do the um like a a
[01:30:43] cloud enabled um model. Hold on. Our our notes are a little bit vague and I can't Compared to competing smart rings that cost several hundred and bundle health
[01:30:55] tracking or always on AI features, the Index01, that's what it's going to be called, is significantly cheaper and intentionally limited, focusing on a simple note takingaking function rather than trying to do everything at once. So
[01:31:08] there's no health tracking, nothing like that. Okay. I'm really curious to hear your thoughts on this because if nothing else, it's different.
[01:31:20] Anything that by its core design >> is designed to die and that is unnecessary.
[01:31:32] I don't feel like I'm going to like >> So you don't like humans? >> I think that is necessary in that case though. >> So So for evolutionary survival of the fittest, we have to
[01:31:45] topic here, >> jerk. Um, and like I do I do this does make me
[01:31:59] dislike things like light bulbs because it's a confirmed >> non-conspiracy theory that they have collaborated to make them worse. And like that sucks. That makes me hate them. And in this case, it's like, man,
[01:32:12] yeah, I'd rather pay a little bit more if it wasn't for sure going to be dead in 2 years. Like, I I look at my phone. I I don't really feel like I need a new pretty okay smart ring? It's probably still going to be fine in two years if I
[01:32:30] could just charge it or replace the battery. I think either would maybe be fine. Ideally, charging. I can understand that adding charging to a smart ring would probably add a significant amount of bulk.
[01:32:43] >> Apparently, technology connection says there is some nuance to the light bulb thing and there were there were tradeoffs that were made. It was an engineering tradeoff. So, duly noted. Technology connections is based I'm
[01:32:58] willing to believe him on this. I would say that I think you could flag anything as a trade-off. Okay, so someone in chat said the trade-offs are
[01:33:10] very valid. That adds that adds a >> Yeah, but I mean there's also >> Like I have this conversation with the CW engineering and fashion team all the time. Um where there are trade-offs in terms of like what I I haven't watched
[01:33:26] market will bear. Um, and you know, it it could be that your your light bulb that would last 10 times longer but cost twice as much
[01:33:40] would be a commercial failure. So you like make the one that will cost half as much but last onetenth as long and you know you consider you know you're it's sort of you're bound by market forces. I think it's a copout. I think you should
[01:33:53] saying it's brightness versus lifetime of the bulbs, which is interesting because if you look at that light bulb that's been on for like an incredible amount of time in that fire station, it's not very bright.
[01:34:08] >> Yeah, that's valid. Okay. All right. All right. All right. I'll allow it. >> I don't know. I feel like that might be maybe a bit of a scapegoat because there are modern LED lights that are incredibly bright and it's definitely
[01:34:22] >> would probably be chill if they just lasted a lot longer and weren't quite as an intent there. >> I don't know. I I want to go watch his video because Technology Connections is super based. So, yeah. I I have no idea.
[01:34:37] information. I don't know. Right. There we go. Fixed. >> I didn't know the line. Get it?
[01:34:52] take or not. That needs to be illegal. It's like a problem. Holy crap. How have we let this be a thing? It's wild. >> I actually don't have a take on this. My
[01:35:08] halos and I don't really get like uh I don't really get like super glare or I but my wife um >> a lot of people do
[01:35:24] >> has had um like corrective >> surgery for her eyes. Uh she used to be a glasses enjoyer and is now not so much. And so for her bright lights can be extremely blinding at light at night. Um, and so yeah, I I I understand that
[01:35:43] when I say it doesn't bother me, I don't mean that in like a um well, not my problem. I'm going to put my giant big lights in the front of my car and I'm factory lights, >> is how much people's lights are pointed
[01:36:00] into my window, right? >> Is like a lot of it. Uh, >> have you ever thought of buying a Cybert truck? Then you'll be sitting up higher. >> No, >> not even once.
[01:36:16] >> Not a cyber truck. You like a more analog truck, not a digital truck, >> was thinking an old Toyota. >> An old Yoda. Interesting. Okay. Why?
[01:36:31] >> Uh it would be nice to have something that I could more easily go camping with. There are certain trails that you can't effectively get to the trail head unless you have a truck in BC. Um, it would be kind of sick. Um, an old Yeah.
[01:36:47] Tacoma or Hilix or something would be neat. I don't need it to be nice. wasn't cuz like I'm going to get it scratched up and beat up and that's cool. I don't I don't Yeah, I don't need it to be nice. My stepdad had a super
[01:37:02] cute little Toyota pickup back when uh back when I was growing up. >> I don't know if it was this one, but it was like a little tiny pickup truck. >> This was like the actual name of it was the pickup. Like its model was pickup,
[01:37:16] which is pretty funny. >> Is that Is that a thing? Cuz I I think >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Interesting. It's >> pretty sick. >> Yeah. None of these other ones look right. This is This is the one he uh he
[01:37:30] had the muffler um tied on to the bottom of it with that you know that yellow rope >> like that yellow rope. Yeah. So he just >> like super plasticky. >> Yeah. Yeah. And he just tied it back on
[01:37:43] with yellow rope. So that was the kind of engineering that he did. All right. So Okay. But other than other Okay. So, you don't like it because it
[01:37:55] >> it's also disposable like it's it's okay. It sounds like a long time that it oh wow, it does last for 2 years. That's cool. A device like this I would expect
[01:38:10] to have for more than 2 years. >> We buy a lot of things that last for less than two years that cost a lot of money. How long does the chicken in your
[01:38:22] fridge last? Not a good argument and you know it. >> No, but it's hard. It's tough with you because you don't buy charge keys. You
[01:38:36] don't buy like gadgets that you know you're not get going to get a ton of use >> Yeah. >> expects to get one year out of this want to keep up with the newest thing. Whatever.
[01:38:50] you could, you know, sell it off to somebody else who could still enjoy the thing without just throwing all of that that value and that tech away. Um, so I still don't like it because repairability is sick and cool and
[01:39:06] based. Um, and you should be able to keep things around. Um, I know people that use some phones that are real old. Um, I the the iPhone that I carry for float plane stuff is an X. >> It still works. great. It's like
[01:39:22] actually very impressive that it's still totally fine. Its battery life is not that amazing anymore, but it's still impressively pretty all right. I'm not like on it that often cuz, you know, and it'll easily last often days.
[01:39:37] >> Oh, yeah. Apple's idle battery management. It's so good. >> That's old. That would make this thing at its death point look like a young pup. So, like I I don't like that and I don't I don't
[01:39:51] think uh I don't think there's an argument that's going to convince me otherwise. One thing I would ask is how many smart rings have replaceable batteries >> that I'm aware of? None.
[01:40:03] >> But rechargeable. Yeah. How do they charge? Is it wireless charging? Do they charging adds? So that was the argument for it
[01:40:15] >> was that for how low profile he wanted it to be. Basically, as far as I can tell, he's making a device for himself. >> Sure. >> Um, and what he wants is when he's washing the dishes or otherwise
[01:40:30] ADD brain forgets. >> It does look like So, let me I'm at cuz not on a finger, but when you see it on the finger, other than this bump,
[01:40:44] >> Um, it does look more profile to me as someone who has never worn a smart ring, it does look more low profile than smart rings that I've seen. >> You have worn a smart ring. >> It also doesn't look that low profile
[01:40:59] though. >> No. Especially with the huge button, which looks a little uncomfortable to be honest. I hate rings in general, but like this looks rough. I would not want this. You can
[01:41:12] even literally see the button itself pushing into his finger. >> I can't tell 100%. I'm going to try it. I'm going to at least try it. >> I am I am torn on this one. On the one hand, I completely agree. Repairaability
[01:41:29] is based. Replaceable batteries are based. Um, >> At so much of a lower price compared to other smart rings and still having a
[01:41:43] purpose that like him, I have ADD brain and often forget things and being able to just quickly blah blah blah and then not take out my phone could have a benefit. At that point though, you know, why not just wear one of those silly AI
[01:41:57] pendants? Uh, for me, the not thinking about it is a major feature, though. >> Uh, yes. But it's another I I forgot to put on my watch today.
[01:42:09] >> No, because I'm not going to take it off. >> I'm going to put it on and then 2 years later its battery will die. >> Got it. Water resistant then. So that's the only compelling
[01:42:25] reason for it is that I never have to um I never have to think about if I have it on me and it can operate away from the app. So and so you so it can store
[01:42:39] some onboard and then when it gets back in range of your phone it can dump everything which is pretty. So, I could be in the pool and I could have an would sync to my phone later. Um,
[01:42:55] bucks, which is more money than a meal, but not more money than a meal out with my family.
[01:43:09] I don't know, man. We buy a lot of stuff that is pretty disposable and pretty useless. Like we I did an AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade for someone earlier this
[01:43:21] week where once again we have uh or not so much once again, but we have a new >> Oh. >> Um and I'm looking at it going like
[01:43:34] >> It's all relative, right? Like if you're the kind of person who just doesn't spend money on anything that doesn't generate a return, you know, like if you
[01:43:46] if you have like a very very kind of strict approach to spending. Um don't generate a return. >> Yeah. No, I just mean I just mean in general like if you have sort of rules for spending money that do not account
[01:44:00] for $75 for a thing that is disposable. >> I don't actually agree. I think you could argue that this could generate a return. Sure. I I just mean whatever your rules are. Sure. You know, if you don't account for $75 for a disposable
[01:44:13] thing, then you know that's that's a that Yeah, that's that's totally valid. But maybe I could I just philosophically I disagree though, right? Like I I I
[01:44:25] disagree with >> non-replaceable battery. Yeah. people have found ways to do it. So >> yes, apart yet. I don't know if it could be possible. Kind of doubt it. It uses a
[01:44:42] hearing aid battery apparently. All right. Sense some trauma. It's okay, buddy. I >> You're okay, though. >> Yeah.
[01:44:57] >> Uh, all right. >> This was wild. over the Black Friday period. Okay. The console sales war. No, no, don't look. Don't look. Oh, he's
[01:45:11] >> So, number one, >> uh, Switch. >> Switch. >> You better believe it. Nintendo. Number
[01:45:23] >> And then, >> uh, Right. So, I'm gonna say I know the >> Yeah, you'd think it would be Xbox. >> It was not.
[01:45:38] >> It was not >> the next playground. >> I'd never even I was I was this week years old when I even heard of this thing. Over the Thanksgiving week weekend, the Xbox Series
[01:45:54] series accounted for just 10% of console units sold, coming behind the PlayStation 5, which came in first in part because it was the only console
[01:46:07] that actually had a sale. Uh, so with 47%. The Switch 2 in second place, which accounted for 24% of all console units sold. and the next playground which was responsible for 14% of sales and is a
[01:46:24] console that and this is from Mr. David Goier who he would describe as like a $200 Microsoft connect that plays mobile games with a 90year subscription if you >> $90 a year subscription if you want to play more than five games. That's right.
[01:46:41] I'm going to try that one more time. That I would describe like a $200 Microsoft Connect that plays mobile games and requires a $90 a year subscription if you want to play more than five games.
[01:46:55] What? What? Okay. What is this thing? Obviously, we've sourced one and we want to make a video about it, but that's it. Excuse me. The next playground crashed the Black
[01:47:10] Friday hardware charts in the US. Okay. What? Like what is this thing? >> I don't get it to be honest.
[01:47:23] >> The active play system for kids and families. >> Like did it get bundled with something like crazy or did something happen?
[01:47:37] active games that turn your living I mean basically it's the Wii then >> yeah you just don't have remotes >> it's a Wii but they went for the connect 12th 2025 oh so no this is today so they're also
[01:47:53] >> probably reacting to this >> probably what happened I've never even seen this before >> did it get bundled with something why are people buying this anyone in chat own one of these compelled held you to
[01:48:06] >> How to Train Your Dragon, Riders of the Skies, Bluey Bust a Move. >> Whoa. Who's behind this company?
[01:48:19] automatically every month. So, how much is Play Pass? It was $90 a year. Wait. Oh, man. Just show me a price, brother. What? No. We get the Show me a
[01:48:36] price for the subscription. Learn about Play Pass. Okay, that's what I clicked. Where is the price? Yeah, here we go. Yeah, 12 months. Yeah, $90 US a year or about Oh, what does that work out to? Like $50 every 3
[01:48:53] months. So, so like 15 bucks a month or 17 bucks a month or something like that. Love this for my active little kids. Keeps them moving and so many games to choose from. My 60-year-old dad even plays with them. This is wild. Yeah,
[01:49:05] it's it's new Wii. It's uh it's someone who figured out that >> people actually really liked the Wii. >> Yeah. And that everyone forgot why everybody liked the Wii. We teamed up with the top family brands. Hasbro,
[01:49:18] Street. This is This is wild, dude. Like, who are these people? >> I started looking into it. It seems like a new company.
[01:49:30] >> Go figure. has investments from some tech people and sports giants and stuff, but uh it's some split offs from places like Apple, but yeah, it seems like a new company. That's >> wild to be able to jump in and just dunk
[01:49:44] on Xbox like that with Xbox's basically own thing >> is nuts. Imagine making a successful thing based off of what is effectively a connect and
[01:49:57] it not being Microsoft. one of the greatest game console industry failures of all time. >> Let's not call it successful yet. I mean, that's fair, but they're out
[01:50:11] selling Xbox. >> Yeah. And it's a subscription model, so you know, they're doing good. >> Well, they're out selling Xbox for Black Friday, I should say. >> Not overall necessarily.
[01:50:24] >> We don't know. Uh, Don Caba says, "The Connect, it sold 25 million units." Says, "The Connect was not a failure at all." The Connect was the beginning of the end for the Xbox brand according to their
[01:50:38] current trajectory right now. >> It was bundled, my brother. >> It was an attempt to change the paradigm of the Xbox to this like living room, do
[01:50:50] >> they had huge plans for the Connect. What it ended up being, which was a weird accessory that you could play some dance games with and a handful of
[01:51:03] experiences and then kind of a cool camera that people could, you know, hack and do neat stuff with later. What it ultimately ended up being was nothing compared to what Microsoft had planned for it. They Microsoft tacitly admitted
[01:51:19] failure of the connect when they stopped bundling it with the console was supposed to be an integral part of the Xbox and then after what was it a year >> I don't know >> well this isn't working forget it
[01:51:33] >> just get rid of it entirely >> the connect was a failure >> Maladrax in Philip chat said the next had a big instore display you could play in stores in the US we played one for a few minutes so Yeah, they just did
[01:51:46] direct like instore marketing effectively and people like the Wii again. I would like to take one of those, please." And then bought
[01:51:58] that when I was >> 200 bucks. Introductory price of 200 Wonder what kind of hardware is in it. I mean, we're we're sourcing one, so we'll
[01:52:10] we'll answer these >> questions as best we can. DDR4X 64 gigs of eMMC storage. The graphics are a male G52 MC4.
[01:52:25] Okay. Just reading the Wikipedia page. 8 core ARM chip. ARM taking over the world, boys. Well, good luck, Microsoft. >> Wild. Oh, yeah. Our discussion question
[01:52:43] here is with the rumors being >> Sorry, >> it's uh it's a typo on on Wikipedia then. M A I L.
[01:52:55] >> Well, do you know why? Cuz I read it like six times. I'm not even kidding. That's why I was so confident to be like, "Actually, no, it's male." >> Yeah. There you go.
[01:53:10] want. >> Yeah. Nice. Let's go. Um, so would you rather have Okay, hold on. Our question was, um,
[01:53:26] yeah, if the rumors of Microsoft's next machine being like a $1,000 plus PC like machine are true, what does Xbox even mean anymore? I think it means failure.
[01:53:39] Yeah. I mean, I guess it's uh the Xbox Live stuff, Game Pass. >> Yeah. >> Which I understand it has like pretty good value. I don't want anything to do with
[01:53:53] it at all. And I we were an Xbox household. >> from the OG >> gone from there. >> All right. We would we would collect like broken 360s and try to zombie them
[01:54:09] in together into working ones and all this kind like we were we were in and I not even vindictive. They just lost. Okay.
[01:54:21] And I'm not I don't love uh services like that especially for things like games. I would prefer to own my games. So I'm going to keep patronizing Steam and GG. came across this tweet this week. Uh, Senator Ruben Galgo has
[01:54:39] introduced Senate legislation to outlaw surveillance pricing. This video is actually a little bit older, but it features the one and only, the basist of base >> people, former FTC chair Lena Khan, who
[01:54:54] explains the dangers of this shady practice. As usual, something that everyone needs to understand and be vigilant about. Has the least sexy, least interesting name possible, but we're going to tell you guys about it
[01:55:10] anyway. I'd actually never heard the term surveillance pricing before. Um, cracked down on it. So, examples used of surveillance pricing by the uh the video
[01:55:24] that Miz Khan um you know pretty competently hosted actually as a as a >> Nice. >> Um so, Princeton Review, she gave this example charged customers in zip codes
[01:55:39] with higher percentage Asian populations more for test prep services. >> Oh. Okay. Other tests found or suggested
[01:55:55] that ride share apps may charge riders with lower battery life more for the same ride at the same time. San Francisco residents who booked
[01:56:07] hotels through Expedia were apparently charged up to $500 more per night than people buying the same from less affluent cities. And apparently some
[01:56:19] internet providers charged the same price for worse internet speeds in poorer neighborhoods. These are these are we've looked into it and there is evidence to suggest this is happening slash we have confirmed it
[01:56:34] now. So surveillance pricing the concept is that by harvesting your personal data or inferring things about you um companies can charge you more for the
[01:56:47] same services. Some hypothetical examples of surveillance pricing that we might want to be worried about are a parent with a sick child might be charged more for medicine or a thermometer or somebody needing to
[01:56:59] travel for a funeral could be charged more for their airfare because they're arrangements for instance. Um so good on New York for doing something to kind of
[01:57:14] crack down on this. What is really needed is nationwide slash more worldwide. How about just, you know, in general, we just not do this legislation that makes this just
[01:57:29] illegal. Um, I know that there's it's a common sort of talking point that regulation is bad and there are many cases where regulation can be bad. But if we just allow the free market to regulate
[01:57:45] itself, I think it has proven, not just suggested, but proven that it cannot do >> capable. People think it can. >> Yeah.
[01:57:59] >> They actually with a straight face say that and it's like actually stupid >> to regulate itself towards what is the like is the problem and that's exactly it. that's what they will do which often brings you down to monopolistic
[01:58:12] practices or like uh there's a term for it I don't remember it but when uh it's an effective monopoly where everyone's price fixing on the same uh kind of level and and something that people don't seem to necessarily understand is
[01:58:27] that you can't do this based on like a restaurant model or something like that where it's like oh your pricing for your burger is too into some of these deep modes where you might need hundreds of thousands,
[01:58:46] millions, billions of dollars to get into certain industries. It's like, yeah, no, you need to do something about that. Um, Saunders Saunders SC Sandre SC um says, "Is this any different than when eBay
[01:59:02] Yes. The difference is that we're not talking about a discount. We are talking about increasing the price based on information about you. So
[01:59:18] it is one thing if you know cuz you know come back to how it would work in the real world. In the real world, I could have my stall at the bazaar and you could walk in and you could, you know, be with Emma and you could look at a
[01:59:33] necklace and I could say, "Oh, pretty lady. Buy a pretty necklace for the pretty lady, sir. Sir, oh, look how good it looks on her." Oh, and he goes to leave and I go, "I give you $5 off." You know, that's one thing, but it is an
[01:59:47] entirely separate practice if I have no price tags on anything. And I have like my my my my team of hooligans who go out and pick people's wallets and see how
[02:00:01] much money's in them and then put it back in. And then I know when they walk in the store, I go, "Ah, sir." Affluent sir. Oh, this is good. Uh, this necklace $200. Uh, you wouldn't want to be seen as cheap in front of the pretty lady.
[02:00:17] You know, it's a completely different way scummier thing. >> I like bizarre Linus. Thank you. >> Bizarre Linus is pretty great.
[02:00:29] >> Yeah. And I mean, they're doing it based off of things that will probably offend that example of the >> uh tutoring or study prep or whatever it
[02:00:41] doing this based off of any data point they can possibly get. >> Uh and they will get those data points. >> Yeah. and they're going to have more and more and more as we go. I mean, this is this is one of the things that I, you
[02:00:57] >> Um, back when I uh back when we were talking about the genetic testing, like the example that I always came up with is
[02:01:09] like that. Um, but this is one that absolutely could be impacted by your completely different pricing model for potentially like this could potentially
[02:01:27] be a thing. We could we could figure out the human genome enough that you could figured out that they have a predisposition to gambling for instance. And you wouldn't even need to do that with the okay maybe the the DNA testing
[02:01:42] inflated pricing for things that you know that they could be predisposed to have a condition for. Like it's this whole thing is just terrifying.
[02:01:57] I mean uh I don't know but I'm looking up like PubMed articles talking about uh genetic influences on gambling. Uh it seems to be like relatively figured out
[02:02:09] there's genetic influences on your um predisposition to cheating in relationships. >> Like there's we I'm not going to go as
[02:02:21] far as to say free will is not a thing, but like >> Bucket of chemicals and electrical impulses. IS THAT ALL I AM TO YOU? Yeah, I don't know. I don't I think you've got uh some agency, but I I do
[02:02:40] think there's a lot of influences all the time from various things and it extremely difficult to resist them. >> Eggnog in April says there's a genetic
[02:02:52] predisposition on your mom. Nice based comeback. >> Okay, moving on away. Let's get far away from things we deeply don't understand.
[02:03:05] Okay. Noctua and Prussa Research have introduced 3D printing filaments in signature Noctua colors. >> Heck yeah. >> that's all the photo for this. Thought it was fake.
[02:03:20] >> Now you two can print in brown. >> McDonald's removes AI generated ad after backlash. This is an amazing story. McDonald's in the Netherlands put out a
[02:03:33] festive a well, you can call it festive, I guess, AI generated holiday ad calling Christmas the most terrible time of the year, which they elaborated on in a statement that it was meant to highlight the stressful moments during Christmas
[02:03:46] in the Netherlands. The ad features a compilation of unrealistic Christmas events going wrong, like opening your tree and the branches flinging you out of your front window, or Santa and his reindeer causing a traffic jam. Their
[02:03:59] solution? wait till January in a McDonald's. The online criticism mostly regarded uh the use of AI slop replacing genuine human work. Melanie Bridge, the CEO of the studio behind the ad, however,
[02:04:14] clapped back and said, "It's about expanding the toolbox, the ver the vision, the taste, the leadership that will always be human." and uh and further defended their ad claiming the hours that went into this job far
[02:04:28] exceeded a traditional shoot. Why then? Why? Ah uh 10 people, five weeks full-time discussion question. Is the is AI the solution to accomplishing shoots
[02:04:40] like this with limited resources? If the AI shots didn't include people, would that make it more acceptable? Okay, so first up, u 5 weeks full-time would not be nearly enough to do that shoot with people because what about all the
[02:04:54] extras? Like what about all of the human actors? Like never mind the editors and >> 10 people five weeks full time. >> Yeah, I know. Still 10 people five weeks
[02:05:07] saying there was five weeks full-time of total hours put in. all the logistics involved with that many shots, I can tell you as someone
[02:05:21] commercial. >> Uh like there there would have had to be like CGI work. Like there's no way. Absolutely freaking no way.
[02:05:33] >> Well, they're not saying making that exact video. They're saying making a 44 >> No, like that was specifically their point. I'm not trying to defend them. I'm just saying
[02:05:49] >> far exceeded a traditional shoot. >> Okay. So, what's their Okay. So, what's their defense then? That they paid more labor hours than they would have, but
[02:06:03] they got a better commercial. that they didn't use it to like cut the effort, I guess, which like what a whiff if that's the case. What was the benefit? It doesn't look particularly good in my opinion.
[02:06:19] Yeah. I mean, I got to be honest with you, as far as like commercials go, I actually thought it was kind of cute. like I I uh I don't look at it and go this this commercial is so bad I couldn't watch
[02:06:34] did in this that are pretty normal for commercials like this like the cookie >> there's like for sure >> ad campaigns that have had that and that saying. >> Yep.
[02:06:49] >> Um I don't know man. I can also fully understand why people are mad about it because there is definitely stuff that doesn't look professional like the way the cat jumps on the tree and the
[02:07:02] physics are completely wrong. Um like it yeah it sucks. Uh, am I just am I have I am am I just so have I just
[02:07:19] given up to the point where I'm I'm accepting this garbage? Is that was just so unnecessarily AI, which is strange. I'm wondering if the the studio
[02:07:34] that did it is like an AI studio and they're shoehorning it into things because like there there's Yeah, there's stuff here that like it's it's just so unnecessary. Like the cookie. Okay, I can understand you like
[02:07:48] doing it yourself. But there, man, there's a lot of stuff that's just Why? If you just did it normally, it would have looked better and taken less time.
[02:08:01] Sick. I like Yeah, this is very weird. >> Yeah, it's a this is a tough one. I It's very clear that this is going to happen. I am honestly surprised that
[02:08:14] McDonald's even pulled it down though. Like uh like what Coke did one last year >> and then their new one they did it >> which is like completely missing the point. And I don't think I don't Is
[02:08:31] anyone even mad about Cokes this year? >> I'm not sure. Cora 25. Let's see.
[02:08:44] Tim's got an interesting take. I just don't care. It's an ad. I'm never going to watch the ad anywhere. >> Nice. Nice. Okay. I mean, I think people might not like it that much. Uh, one of the top
[02:08:58] comments on the video with 22,000 up votes is the most profitable commercial in Pepsi's history. That's pretty good. >> That's pretty good. But it's also pretty
[02:09:11] >> It's also pretty echo chambery. >> Yeah, for sure. Like there's a there it's it's it's been it's been interesting,
[02:09:23] you know, over the last let's say week or two seeing how self-important some communities can think that they are and >> for sure >> they might think that they are. Like,
[02:09:39] Reddit, you know, with with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of up votes, but what are the odds? Like, think about it. What are the odds if you
[02:09:52] went to the park by your house and talked to somebody there it? >> Yeah, it's it's >> functionally zero. As someone who is tries to not be but is a little bit too
[02:10:05] chronically online, I have to remind myself of this sometimes and I had a very recent conversation where someone was talking about how something is like don't think so with practically anyone unless you are extremely chronically
[02:10:21] >> Like a perfect example of that would be like the the Harry Potter thing. >> Yeah. Like if you're chronically online and especially if you exist within
[02:10:33] >> Yes. >> It's like it's like a like major like like it's a culture war thing, right? But you know if I if I if one of the the kids of if one of my kids friends comes over and I'm like, "Oh, what do you
[02:10:48] they they don't know about anything. >> They have no clue what's going on. >> You know, I talked to their parents uh like, "Oh, oh yeah, your your kid says lightning bolt thing, you know, with the scar, right? Like, they don't they don't
[02:11:04] >> Um, >> there's other things going on. They got they got other things to care about. >> And it's uh it's interesting. >> Yeah. Angry Panda PC says, "But I am important." And I agree. I agree. You're
[02:11:19] important. Everyone's important, but not everyone is important to everyone else. >> Here's here's another weird thing. Even if you are chronically online these days, it doesn't even necessarily matter that much because your feeds are
[02:11:34] >> That you probably still are out of the loop on so many things cuz like I remember someone the there was a thread on Reddit recently uh about how YouTube
[02:11:48] unlisted all of their rewinds. >> Yeah. >> And it's like Yeah. I remember being on YouTube back in the day and like if as someone who went to YouTube, you would just know that.
[02:12:05] But now, we were talking before the show, there was a creator in our space with a over a million subscribers that neither of us had ever heard of. our space that we just wouldn't happen to come across. Alyssa Jean Puppy says,
[02:12:19] "If a person behind a franchise spends all her money on wanting to stop making not saying anything. >> My point wasn't what people should or >> Yes. That is the only point. >> You can't care about something that you
[02:12:34] literally don't know. >> Yeah. And I think that we often live in echo chambers and in communities where uh the issues that are very important to us like uh oh man like what would be what would be an example that would be
[02:12:49] like like a really tech community like okay what percentage of people if you went to the mall right and you went and talked to somebody what percentage of people there would know that DDR memory is expensive
[02:13:02] >> and the impact of that on the world >> of the ones who knew what percentage of them would be impacted like out of computer enthusi so like tech enthusiast bubble and then within that bubble you've got the people
[02:13:17] spending money right now and then like that's it this it's this tiny little it's this tiny little fraction and um and so yeah there's people who are very
[02:13:33] mad who are following this whole AI thing and particularly you know generative AI video and and the out of that the people who sort of care about
[02:13:45] the replacement of labor of of the you know the the uh the cinematographers and on this. Uh, and and I think it's just like, yeah, you you could probably
[02:13:58] 20,000 22,000 up votes. Those 22,000 people, they matter. Those are living, >> They're also an incredibly tiny percentage of the global population. Uh
[02:14:14] uh Alyssa Jean Puppy, hopefully I said that right. Um said in flip plane chat, okay, but JK Rowling is all over the news about that, at least in the UK, which is just another version. She's not over here cuz she's not from over here.
[02:14:29] legislation over here. And we're aware because we're terminally online. >> Yeah. >> Uh but in in >> Then you've got a keeps up with the news filter. Then you've got a cares about
[02:14:46] this issue filter. And then you've got to even remembers it filter. There's just there's there's so many layers until you get down to what can be a very large number of people >> especially over the last like decent
[02:14:59] amount of years. There's been a lot of difficulty going around and yeah, people might be struggling to survive at all themselves and the issues that applied very directly to them is
[02:15:14] survival all the time. They have to deal with their own problems, right? They have to put their mask on first. And it it's it's tough but like
[02:15:26] >> Kadoes asks so then do people outside the US think Elon Musk is great then a lot of people think Elon Musk is pretty great. >> Don't care >> at all
[02:15:41] >> or just don't care at all. Yeah. Yes. The answer is yes. I'm sorry to be the >> incredible amount of people in the world that don't even know who he is.
[02:15:53] >> Yes, that's a thing. I know it seems crazy, right? In our tech sphere, right? How could anyone that in the tech sphere not have heard of the techno king as he self-proclaimed himself to be a number
[02:16:08] of years back, right? >> In D26 he said there are idiots through the whole world. We're not saying they're idiots. No, that's not what we're saying at all. Some of them might be.
[02:16:21] >> no, that's not what we're saying at all. We're saying that there's a whole wide world out there with many, many interests and many, many priorities and
[02:16:33] not everybody shares them. And in this algorithmically curated world that we And we may and and that is in a lot of ways by design on the platforms. Like
[02:16:47] what percentage of subreddits that exist do you imagine you've been personally exposed to? Like dude, I I've been kind of hooked on r/all over the last like >> What? >> All just like just like and it's just
[02:17:04] like it is realistically like a handful. Am I theshole? Um, while. Comics shows up a fair bit. There's like it's probably over the span
[02:17:21] of a week several dozen subreddits that contribute to the majority of the like vastly uploaded or upvoted content on the site. But there are what what what
[02:17:35] are what is it up to? Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. Millions of subreddits. How many subreddits are there? >> 3.8 million. >> What percentage of them do you
[02:17:51] >> as of 11 months ago? 3.8 million as of 11 months ago. >> So, and yeah, Len Len oh or however I pronounce this in flowplane chat says, "Y'all just got to ignore this stuff. I
[02:18:03] stuff and DIY." >> And that's also like it is a exactly our It is somewhat surprising to hear that a ton of people have recognized that being
[02:18:18] constantly dialed into everything that is happening in the world and how the fact that the further we move away from local news and we move closer to global about like the fair that's happening in town. So there isn't going to be all
[02:18:34] that much really horrible things because you're centralized to a smaller area. >> Yeah. When you're now looking at more global news and you look at the news that's going to float to the top, it's going to be the most rage baiting crazy
[02:18:49] you're only going to get news about all of the most horrible possible things happening. And it's really bad in a lot of ways for your brain. That doesn't mean that not being that dialed in is, for example, an education problem or or
[02:19:05] problem, but but maybe not a problem. It literally is ignorance an ignorance problem to certain people. They don't want to be exposed to that
[02:19:18] pipeline of extreme constant negativity because it can be bad for you. Um or >> I76969 hex says people should be informed.
[02:19:30] You're speaking English. Do you know everything that's happening in China >> I know Hassan's Billy Billy stream got turned off.
[02:19:42] >> Pretty sure. Sure. Do Do you know like Yeah. Do you I don't know. There's There's so many layers to that. And like your level of knowledge does not mean that everyone else's level of knowledge is inferior. It's there are an
[02:19:57] incredibly important and I have no clue. >> Yeah. And uh again, like we're not trying to argue that that's the way it
[02:20:12] should be. That ain't the argument. We're just pointing out that that is how it is. Not everyone cares about AI or AI slop or
[02:20:25] >> totally ignoring and don't care about that at all is very high. And the number of people who are like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go." Also very
[02:20:37] >> And that is fact. Um, sorry. >> Yeah. Sorry. AI is a thing. Like I
[02:20:57] Oh, man. Cuz I I'll do a shirt. I don't mind. I could do trust me bro AI is a adblock is piracy just we'll com we'll compi combine all the scandals
[02:21:12] the myriads of things that you don't >> wow that's a okay in other news what the heck is this
[02:21:28] Facebook and malware wear bites. Okay, I recorded this on my computer. Okay, I um here we go. So, I got my uh my OBS interface here. Here we go. I got
[02:21:43] this email from Facebook. Okay. And I was a little irritated. Wow, this >> One moment, please. >> It's actually not just my eyes this Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So, I was told that a post from
[02:21:59] 2015 was flagged for copyright infringement. Okay. So, I clicked through and I made my way over to Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Right, right, right, Facebook asking me about some feature and I was trying to figure out how to
[02:22:16] turn off emails from Facebook about all of their page management nonsense. There was no unsubscribe. there was no cuz I don't want to block every email because occasionally cuz it's for the page manager email like
[02:22:30] wrong or something. So I can't just block emails from Facebook. So I'm like okay there's no way to unsubscribe to this. There's there's no link to the
[02:22:42] interface where I can where I can change my contact u my contact settings. So, I clicked through to my Facebook page to try to figure out where the heck in the interface I was supposed to disable this stupid email notifying me of some stupid
[02:22:57] feature that I don't care about. The first thing that came up was that I had a copyright um claim against a post from 10 years ago. Okay, so here we go. Uh all right, so
[02:23:13] because it was reported for copyright. Okay, so here are my options. Oh, yeah, reported for copyright infringement. Um, this is the post. Lifetime malware
[02:23:28] bites for $20 on Amazon US. Go, go, go. And it's a link to a tweet. Okay, I >> That actually sounds awesome. I kind of wish I did that
[02:23:40] >> 10 years ago. Who cares? So, I click it. I'm like, "Okay, so it's a link to an >> Okay. So, I click continue. Who could possibly care about this? Malware Bytes
[02:23:52] Corporate Holdco or their authorized representative managed to find a post from 10 years ago. >> Well, they crawled it. >> Well, right. But why? Who cares? And
[02:24:04] so anyway, we don't allow content that whatever. So, I can accept the decision. I can submit an appeal or I can contact Malware's corporate holdco.
[02:24:16] I think I'm about to dox Malware's corporate hold co. So yeah, there's their email address and phone number. Anyway, submit an appeal. Nothing happens. Go to form. Go to form. Go to form. Hello.
[02:24:32] It doesn't open another window. Nothing. It doesn't do anything else. Go to form. >> Strategic bugs. I like it. What the heck is this? What is going on right now? So,
[02:24:45] challenge? Blah blah blah blah blah. No unsubscribe. I'm fairly certain that this email is illegal in Canada. >> Like, what is it? What is it? Can spam
[02:24:58] again. >> There is no I have not opted into this. >> I went into my Facebook notification settings later actually. Yeah, I think it was after I turned off the screen recording. I have everything that I can
[02:25:12] find turned off and they sent me this from a stupid like malware bites claiming copyright infringement that I It's just how is this so broken? No, I'm not getting fished. It goes It goes to
[02:25:31] actual Facebook. What the heck? That's all that's all I have to say about that. I was just I was in between rounds at my badminton ladder going through my email like I was like what is this? I don't know how to deal
[02:25:45] >> What I do know how to deal with is a big shout out to the LTT forum folding team. We had a record-breaking event folding month 8. In total the team produced over
[02:26:00] 230 billion points. That's nearly three times last year's total. We had 369 participants. Nice. And user Stoen demolished the previous record of 6 billion points and earned 112 billion points. I don't know exactly what that
[02:26:15] means. Oh, of the previous record was six and it was 112. Wow. Special thanks to Livven Mr. Chukote. Yeah. Pancress. >> Yeah. forum member for donating a total of 55 prizes to the event. Additionally, 20
[02:26:32] participants will be walking away with a $100 LT store gift card. Bowman Lab at the University of Pennsylvania, was very impressed by the
[02:26:45] total simulation time that the LT or that folding at home contributed of 8.6 milliseconds during November. He said that sounds like a small amount of time, but that is a ton for the types of motions that we like to study and
[02:26:59] roughly 2 to three orders of magnitude more than most simulation focused papers tend to have on their own. So, massive thank you to everyone who participated. The final rankings and Justin's complete summary can be found in the final blog
[02:27:11] at um well this link. Dan, do you want to throw the link in the various chats? But basically here, super cool. Heck yeah. Folding month.
[02:27:24] And I think we've got just one more topic before we get to after dark. The world's first flying car. Here it is. Whoa. It's a flying The world's first
[02:27:36] flying car is now being handmade in California. And this right here, see all the dust and see all like the air being blown up? is exactly why I think I'm convinced that this is um pardon the pun never going to take off.
[02:27:53] >> ALF Aeronautics, a US startup, has started building its electric flying car, the Model A, by hand in California, becoming the first company to put a
[02:28:05] drive and fly car into production. The flying car can drive on regular roads and can take off vertically to fly with around a 220 mi driving and 110 mile
[02:28:17] flying range. Apparently, the startup has already received 3,500 at around $300,000.
[02:28:32] But there are a couple of small problems that are not included in our notes that are kind of hilarious. As cool as it would be to dunk on the Cybert truck by literally flying over it, >> it looks so sketchy. Have you watched
[02:28:46] >> I just watched it. It looks so sketchy. Then the wheels are so thin. It's like, oh man. Ah, they I feel like they just put like
[02:29:03] a like a fiberglass frame on a like high carrying capacity drone. A detail that was overlooked is that at this time it can only take off from and land at
[02:29:15] airports. So like what is the point of it? The whole idea behind flying car, like the whole connotation of car is that you
[02:29:32] park it at your house and you like drive it to work or you go get groceries and you like park at your house again. >> You could drive to the airport and then and then not like have to get out and get into a plane. You can drive to the
[02:29:45] airport and then just leave take off from the airport. That sounds pretty great. You can drive 220 miles with a 110 mile >> That makes a lot of sense. >> Yeah. Less than a year.
[02:30:04] it drive? Is there a video of it driving? I've only seen it somewhat sketchily fly. >> I don't think I've seen it drive. As
[02:30:16] soon as I found out that it's slow, has crappy range, is expensive, has all the issues of any other personal flying vehicles with with the big one the displacement of air that they need is so big and the propellers that they
[02:30:36] can accommodate for any kind of V tall functionality are so small that they have this like tiny cone that basically blows away anything anywhere near them.
[02:30:48] Like there is with the laws of physics being what they are, as far as I can tell, no reasonable path to driving one of these from your front driveway to your parking lot at work.
[02:31:04] They would blow so much crap around on the parking lot that you'd be denting it. They're so loud. Um, much larger propellers can help with the the
[02:31:18] high-pitched noise and all of that, but you still have to deal with all that air displacement in order to lift this like hundreds of pounds vehicle plus whatever people and cargo that you want to carry in it. Like, it's just it's just not
[02:31:34] going to happen. >> Or you could buy a really nice really sweet car to drive to the airport and then get in your own Just like experimental craft. >> That thing looks pretty sick. What's the
[02:31:49] >> For sure. Just nothing. The crumple zone is you. >> Like come on. >> You are expected to crumple the car.
[02:32:02] >> It's just going to hit the batteries. Yeah, sure. >> Like like come on. >> Oh, very fun. Very cool. Very good. >> Looks cool. They go out of their way, it seems, to make it really hard to see how
[02:32:18] skinny chicken these >> Dude, they're so tires are so narrow. >> Yeah, they look like wheelbarrow tires. >> Yeah. Yeah.
[02:32:32] >> Oh my gosh. >> Yeah. So, this is >> You said they got pre-orders >> apparently. working on this is cool. I actually have no issue with that.
[02:32:44] >> Okay, so we just had a huge long conversation with the audience about ignorance. Remember, not everybody is an engineer and a lot of people would think, oh well, you know, they got I forget what
[02:32:59] body they got approval from, but they they like are making progress to this being a product that they actually ship. Um, and so if I heard that they got their Yeah. airworthiness certification from the FAA. They got an airworthiness
[02:33:14] >> That's huge. >> Right. So, I'd be like, "Oh, yeah. Flying car." I see this picture, I go, I mean, what? Yeah, 300 grand. I mean, that's that's only that's only 10 times the price of a car that doesn't fly,
[02:33:29] right? That it has so many more degrees of freedom. this video, I feel like they'd do better. Well, they've been doing pretty
[02:33:41] everybody's an engineer. So, yeah, I could see people pre-ordering it if they just don't do the math. Like, it wasn't until for me too that I came across like
[02:33:54] read it and then I like kind of lost it and then I never saw it again. Uh, but math of how this is just like kind of impossible. And they're like at the end
[02:34:09] of it they're like look don't don't short it because you know you can't stay I'm I'm not saying you should like short these companies and try and make a bunch
[02:34:21] >> don't invest in them. Don't pre-order this stuff because this ain't happening. This is not happening. I'm like oh okay bummer. Cuz that would be awesome. Like
[02:34:33] I'd be so down. I I hope that you know they got their their flightworthiness thing, whatever. I hope that it ends up being awesome cuz like why not? >> Does not make it look good. But hey, I I mean all power to him. Good
[02:34:49] luck. >> Oh, >> Have fun. Is that it? After dark? >> Mr. Daniel Besser, hit us. Sure. >> Let me just get the banner and the
[02:35:07] throwing that out there. >> Always got to throw that out there. >> Okay, let's see what we've got today. Hey dudes, aside from YouTube, which impact on LMG? Which would be the most beneficial? A beneficial shutdown?
[02:35:28] partnerships. I don't think there's anyone that I would look at and go, "Yeah, them shutting down would be highly beneficial to us." Who would be >> the competitor maybe, but I don't really see us as having competitors in a
[02:35:45] we're in, not all spaces, but the space we're in as Rising Tide lifts all ships. interested in tech will help all of us. And if other people in the tech space
[02:35:59] are making good content, I think that will help us, not hurt us. I've always that the timing of the release of that um that interview that I did with John, um I was talking in the interview about how our our viewership has kind of
[02:36:17] struggled lately, right? But I did that interview a couple of months ago and so that obviously there's a ton of comments on the interview with people giving me their brilliant ideas for what I can do to fix my channel or how talking about
[02:36:33] how um you know, yeah, it's all because uh you know, Alex and Andy are gone or you whatever the case may be, right? Um, but what people don't bother to do is
[02:36:46] check and see if there's any truth whatsoever to their hypothesis. And to be clear, I'm not saying that, you know, I wouldn't that I don't love working with Alex and Andy or whatever, but we've actually had a nice little
[02:37:01] resurgence lately and we are back to the kinds of numbers that we were doing, you know, earlier this year slash, you know, before the recent dip. Like, in fact, we're we're quite a bit higher than that now. We're tracking to do probably more
[02:37:15] like 80 million views for December, it looks like. So that's back up at a level that's sort of closer to sort of November of last year. Like there tends >> Yes. >> Right. So we are we are higher than
[02:37:32] probably in the in the next month we'll be higher than probably about eyeballing this 70 to 70% of the months of the past like 18. Um,
[02:37:44] so thank you for your, you know, advice and your analysis of, you know, why LMG is failing or whatever the case may be. But we're not failing. And a big part of why we don't fail is we are constantly looking inward, looking outward,
[02:38:01] generate excitement? How can we elevate our content? How can we optimize our processes? And the answers are always going to be different in an everchanging
[02:38:13] world that is competitive, even if I don't see other YouTubers or other media >> Yeah. And we've had great people leave and we will have great people leave and
[02:38:29] >> And we are a business in constant flux just like every single other business. different times. >> And like Taylor Swift, I may do a tour
[02:38:44] >> Probably not. >> And this is all extremely normal. Um >> Yep. >> And that's okay. >> Everything is a normal thing that is happening right now. And and you know
[02:39:01] what's another normal thing? For there to be times of unusual strife. Yeah, >> that's also normal. Even if it is >> There will be future times when you know what we might hire a lot. There will be
[02:39:19] future times when we might have a lot of turnover. There will be future times when our content is not performing well. And there will be future times when our content is performing really well. and and all of that is just part of the
[02:39:32] natural es and flows of of running a business in a in a fast fastch changing release a bunch of hardware all at once. >> Yeah, that was that was nice. That was
[02:39:44] >> Yeah. >> Uh >> No, it totally was. >> It's not like I'm immune to the content not performing, I go, like, do I even do I even got this anymore?
[02:40:01] >> And then someone does me the the like bare minimumist favor of releasing some hardware that's interesting. And we get like what, 4 million views on one of
[02:40:15] >> 3.8 and 4.8, right? >> Yeah. Something like that. And I'm just those videos in like 2 hours each >> and ju just the steam machine won't cost
[02:40:28] >> Like >> it was a good video. >> Yeah. >> No, I think not just I I think we've still got it. I do think that we have >> I mean you guys were even talking about
[02:40:43] this before the video before we started WAN shows just like looking at some of >> we have problems. there's there's going to be there's going to need to be some work done on uh kind of addressing how things flow through the company and I
[02:41:01] think so and stuff and it's just you know we've existed for so many years at this point and we've >> we've kind of always just built >> there hasn't really been a lot of uh removing things cutting back on certain
[02:41:16] things trying to see hey if we cut out a bunch of processes here what what would happen? >> Yeah. Uh because sometimes like there's there's process that was originally designed to help solve problems which
[02:41:31] >> due to misuse or rot or improper initial creation actually just creates more to do especially cycles that suck and they don't want to do ever. That is like
[02:41:47] absolutely a thing that happens. So yeah, we have we have things to address, but we're working on it. And that's normal, especially as far as minor >> Yeah. >> Like this ends up being a major problem
[02:42:01] when companies get around the 100 plusish size, which is exactly where >> Yeah. So this all makes sense >> and there will continue to be change. >> Um, someone asked, uh, here we go. So, capture the bomb asks, "Speaking of es
[02:42:16] and flows, how's the badminton club doing?" I don't know. You tell me. Here's a live feed. Uh, okay. Yeah, looks pretty good to me. Got some Got some people playing some badminton all up in this boo.
[02:42:30] >> No, they'll be fine. They're solid solid players, actually. It's a good club. Um, yeah. No, it's this is this is one of those ones where like it was a passion
[02:42:43] project that like you know was never really like intended to make money and it's still it's it's still a little more complicated than like yeah um you know yo I'm making money see so yo world I hope you're
[02:42:58] ready for me now gather around yeah you know like it's not quite that right but >> yeah yeah well that that yes but >> oh I honestly wasn't I wasn't even meing that. I just uh >> No, no, no. Well, that's the different
[02:43:13] artist, different song. I I was Humpty Dance like totally different like that song. It's fine. >> Okay. The point is that Yeah, we kind of accidentally We kind of accidentally a a good sports
[02:43:27] >> Like there's probably accidentally a successful business. people in the concession. Uh there's some people hanging out in the lounge.
[02:43:41] >> Uh-uh. >> But we do have those like Japanese style that's nice. >> Yeah. So, smash champs will use them
[02:43:56] >> Yeah. >> Is there is there any progress on having >> Okay. Yeah, the the managers feel extremely strongly that we need to have
[02:44:10] a steam room and a sauna. I'm really not sure that I agree that's that important, but we also want to put in some more showers. We only have a couple right >> we should we should add more. Um I think that a steam room and sauna is a very
[02:44:25] >> I basically told them, look, you're allowed to put it in as long as it doesn't cost any of our floor area. If you don't use up floor plate, then like
[02:44:37] open to it. But they pitched me like splitting up the gym and putting that at the back and putting the like sauna, steam room, shower stuff like upstairs. more relevant >> thing to a badminton club than that."
[02:44:55] activity is pretty sick. >> Sure. >> Um but yeah, if you could just try to make it additive if possible. Um, also the concession will help money for sure.
[02:45:10] exercising. >> I heard that other clubs that have tried to do them, it's been break even at best. So, we may be better off. I I actually be better off with the vending machines. So,
[02:45:27] >> Interesting. I do know uh as far as my understanding goes, you usually have to make the concession like actually pretty good and then it ends up also getting
[02:45:40] >> Because there's it's actually very rare that you can get like actually pretty well like balanced meals on Uber Eats. So like uh Gold's Gym in Langley has
[02:45:54] like a a um >> protein shake. heavy and like they don't have high sugar counts and all that other kind of stuff. Um, so like if you did like, oh, it's a badon gym, so there's things that
[02:46:09] like, you know, >> we could do a smash burger. >> I think that's pretty far from the point I was trying to make, >> but it's great for the branding. >> But it's great for the branding. It is
[02:46:23] absolutely like something I mean I would personally appreciate I don't know if this is the right fit for Smash Champs. Probably not necessarily, but I think it maybe should be is if you had like uh a protein shake kind of thing and it had
[02:46:39] like 5 g creatine. I think that would be sick. It's hard to get. Booster Juice >> Interesting. Um, so like I think there are ways to make it make sense, but I
[02:46:51] necessarily just the the bon club that would be interested in it. >> Yeah, I'd be down for that. There would be the thing is like you have to find
[02:47:03] someone to kind of spearhead that, right? And right now we're just we're the we haven't even been we've been open a year, but we haven't been taking money for a year. So, we've been like soft open, but our grand opening was less
[02:47:18] than a year ago. So, we still we still have a lot of little things to figure out. Um, yeah, I realized, sorry, the numbers I days, uh, 85 million. Yeah. So, that's actually like quite quite up there with
[02:47:38] our top months over the last 18 75. It's like almost on par with like August 2024. So, we're we're tracking back up and we'll track back down. survive. We will survive. Oh, as long as I know how to tech, I
[02:47:56] know we'll stay alive. Uh, Dan, hit me. Hello, my parasocial friends. Oh, hi there. I'm not a float plane subscriber because I already have two similar subscriptions and my brain refuses to let me have another. Do any of you have
[02:48:10] arbitrary rules like this? >> I don't think that's arbitrary. I think >> totally fair. >> Totally not arbitrary. I mean, the two I guess is an arbitrary number, but >> I I I think two is a pretty good number.
[02:48:29] >> I really don't. I probably have. >> Huh? I think I have one. I'm not even trying to flex.
[02:48:42] ditched it a while back. >> Long time ago. >> Oh, yeah. Just YouTube Premium. Yep. Okay. >> Yeah.
[02:48:54] >> My company got hacked last month through a zeroday exploit in center stack. encryption key. >> Have you guys known anyone who has paid?
[02:49:07] >> I actually don't. Uh, yeah, right. Yeah, good call. Good. Who's there?
[02:49:21] Scammers. you, man. Get out of here. No, I've been here for months. Yeah, sorry. I don't know anything about the process. Uh, bummer. Sorry to hear that.
[02:49:39] Okay. Hi, LLD. Lionus Diesel daily drive a 7900 XTX. What's your take on where RDNA3 is headed after being missing in Wendy's red Wednesday's Redstone announcement? I mean, this is kind of
[02:49:53] classic AMD. I think for the most part, they do their best to support their older products, but like they are a much smaller company than Nvidia still, even after all the success that they've had on the CPU and the and the APU side. Uh
[02:50:08] I'm not surprised by it. The 7900 XT just does not have the neural processing to do what they would want it to do with FSR Redstone. Um, as far as I can tell.
[02:50:20] I'd love to be wrong, but it just doesn't really seem like it. And yes, I'm still daily driving it in my PC upstairs, but I've actually been doing uh more than half of my gaming on my PC downstairs cuz that's like where my kids
[02:50:34] are usually sitting and Ivonne doesn't game. So, I would either be sitting by myself upstairs uh or if I was streaming, I would be upstairs, but I haven't streamed in like forever. So, um yes, it's still in my in my main
[02:50:49] machine, but I haven't been gaming on it as my like primary card for a little while. LLD, my partner and I are combining our skills to go into business together. My question for Lionus is, was there
[02:51:01] anything you should have discussed with Avon before working together? >> Oh, yeah. I think something that we even to this day are not perfectly
[02:51:13] aligned on is where's the end point? What is the target we're trying to hit? And I think that having that agreement, especially if you're going into business
[02:51:26] with, it sounds like a romantic partner, um, having that agreement in place is going to be critical to maintaining harmony in your relationship because if
[02:51:38] one of you has the goal of, you know, achieving a better work life balance by running your own business and being able to set your own hours. and one of you
[02:51:50] has the goal of conquering the world and taking, you know, the business sphere by storm, then it's going to be hard to agree when you've achieved success because you both
[02:52:04] have completely different goals. And talk about that,
[02:52:16] >> Mary Mary uh Pippen. >> Yeah, I like that. >> I'm looking. Wow. Hot take there, Luke. Uh,
[02:52:34] >> Yeah, you're really going to piss off a lot of the community with that one. No offense, but I thought The Lord of the Rings was pretty okay.
[02:52:47] I'm looking to introduce my mother to a new video game this holiday season. Any recommendations with good story that would be easy to learn for the elderly. For the elderly. >> Good story.
[02:53:03] Learn for the elderly. Man, I feel like games are getting harder, not easier. >> Stardy Valley Animal Crossing. And I'm not typ casting because it's grandma. Those are just like Animal Crossing in particular. I know uh was widely
[02:53:18] accepted by a non-gaming audience. >> Uh I think Stardw Valley is also a potentially lower lift in regards to non-gaming audience. Um outside of that,
[02:53:30] I think very like narrativeheavy games. If you try to think of the types of games where like >> uh people would enjoy chilling on the couch while you play because it's like fun to watch and then you pair that with
[02:53:42] they're not mechanically overly difficult. Um I suspect that would work not >> Ben Bob said Elder Scrolls Daggerfall
[02:53:55] >> Not Yeah. Not going to go super well. Uh PR's a good suggestion. Uh Telltale are all probably decent. If there's something in the Telltale Games universe
[02:54:10] that uh fits their fancy, then that might be a good way to go. >> I mean, there's there's so much you can turn the enemies off. >> Can you actually just turn them off? >> Yeah. Yeah,
[02:54:24] >> that would be that would be fun. Uh the last one I have for you today is, "Hi, LLD. Is there any early stage or emerging tech you're particularly robotics and AI, right? Like that's kind of the the big one.
[02:54:39] >> AR glasses. >> Um, yeah, AR glasses are pretty cool. I Oh, I don't know if the thing I tried today was embargoed, but it was cool. >> Neat. I uh I am scared about the current
[02:54:53] direction of AR glasses, but I'm hoping >> more AI >> some Well, yeah. and the the people who are winning right now. Um, but I'm hoping that you know that's the >> Yeah, it's like actually kind of weird.
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[02:58:04] have >> they still have the deal. Do they have >> I don't see. >> They don't have the bundle. >> Supposed to still be running though. >> That it's always while quantities last.
[02:58:17] We probably sold them all last week. Ah, got it. Okay. which is definitely not Battlefield 6 and whatever the other games were.
[02:58:29] >> Like here, check this out. Uh, I bet if I go to like a lesser known retailer or something, um, they will probably have it. Yeah. See, so like Canada Computers gift code redemption cuz the the the promo is
[02:58:45] >> Is that a Canadian promo? because I'm looking at specifically the America. >> Well, I don't I don't know any America retailers that are not New Eggs, so it'd be hard for me to check. But if they still had smaller retailers, um then I I
[02:59:01] the promo because New Egg did run out of them and then they did restock them. So, they have a cost, right? Like Intel has to buy more copies of these games so uh
[02:59:13] >> Yeah, that makes sense. And you know what else doesn't run forever? >> This show. >> That That's a good guess.
[02:59:26] >> Bye.