[0:06] [Music] [0:08] what's up guys Jeff Cavalier aex.com uh [0:12] a little bit of a different setting here [0:15] and in a completely different [0:16] environment this is a Google+ hangout [0:19] what I decided to do was in the middle [0:21] of the week guys I've always been asking [0:22] now for more content from us at athletex [0:25] can we come up with uh another video for [0:28] the week and to make it somewhat [0:30] different and to also give me a chance [0:32] to interact with some of my fans and [0:34] some of the guys that are following affl [0:36] X in our Channel I figured let's do a [0:38] hangout so what we did was we posted [0:41] quickly over on our Facebook fan page [0:44] that we would be doing a h hangout here [0:47] today uh specifically really around the [0:49] topic of around 60 days to summer and [0:53] getting into shape when we know it's [0:55] sort of crunch time right we got to get [0:57] into uh the best shape we can I got all [1:00] my dogs here guys you guys know that [1:01] we're doing this live at my house um so [1:05] basically with the theme of 60 days to [1:08] summer we put it out there and we' [1:09] selected a couple guys to come in and [1:12] join me here on on this hangout and I'm [1:14] going to do that in the uh in the weeks [1:16] going ahead so you want to make sure [1:18] that you are a fan of our fan page which [1:20] is facebook.com ainex so you you get the [1:23] notice of this you also want to be [1:25] follow me on Google+ so you can get the [1:27] notice of this also so anyway with me I [1:30] have Jackson and uh manur two guys that [1:34] have foll the program for a [1:36] while so uh come here so we've got [1:40] Jackson and Jackson's a a a college [1:43] student right down at South Florida yep [1:46] and manour is the other end of the [1:47] spectrum manur is 40 years old uh he's a [1:51] father um you know two two kids as he [1:55] was telling me before we joined this uh [1:56] this hangout so two guys of probably [1:59] different goals or maybe the same goals [2:00] but different uh demands every day of [2:04] what they have to deal with that might [2:06] be getting in the way of them getting in [2:08] shape so I just figured let's throw it [2:10] right out to the questions so that I can [2:12] hopefully be of help to these guys [2:14] specifically in anybody that's watching [2:17] uh guys that can actually uh you know [2:20] feel as that they have the same issues [2:22] so Jackson let's start with you college [2:24] guy University of South Florida yeah I [2:27] got I haven't got the green on to go [2:28] with it um [2:30] I was uh me and my roommate were [2:32] actually just talking about this two [2:33] days ago how you can you can go from one [2:36] website and see uh like nutritional [2:39] information but then it doesn't matter [2:41] what you find you can find 100 180 [2:44] degrees of something completely [2:46] different like whether it's like carbs [2:49] or you know that intermittent fasting [2:51] that you did a video on yeah like that [2:54] and um I think one of the the big things [2:57] that I have trouble with is trying to [2:58] figure out like [3:00] how like how many carbs to eat because a [3:02] lot of times I think that that can kind [3:05] of be the big like seesaw uh of where [3:09] you see your gains and stuff so I was [3:11] just kind of kind of we to get your idea [3:13] like of of nutrition um maybe a little [3:16] bit more than we have in the the portal [3:19] that's online yeah well when it you're [3:22] right when you know the there's [3:24] definitely nutrition like almost every [3:27] topic though you can cover weight [3:28] training the same way every is going to [3:30] have a different opinion unfortunately a [3:33] lot of times a lot of the opinions are [3:35] created uh I feel from marketing needs [3:38] right if you're gonna if you're gonna [3:41] sell a program and we have a program you [3:44] guys know we have athl X the guys have [3:45] used it you've used it you know that you [3:47] know the right program can deliver [3:49] results well in order to position [3:51] yourself uniquely a lot of times people [3:53] will change the position that's sort of [3:57] followed in order to be completely [3:59] unique right and it makes for good [4:02] thought or for you know uh debate of oh [4:06] no no you're training that way you need [4:07] to train completely you know a different [4:09] way um and if they can support it with a [4:12] couple you know a couple claims it [4:15] actually might sound convincing to you [4:17] you know but the fact of the matter is [4:19] there really there really are certain [4:22] ways depending upon goals to achieve [4:24] what you're trying to achieve and I [4:26] think when it comes to nutrition there's [4:29] no two ways about it when I think but [4:31] the number one criteria for any [4:34] nutrition plant and we can get into the [4:35] specifics a little bit in a second here [4:37] but any nutrition plan it has to be the [4:39] followability I kind I don't even know [4:41] if that's a word but I say that all the [4:42] time if you can't follow it it ain't [4:45] gonna work okay because you're not [4:47] really looking for at least my guys [4:49] aren't looking for shortterm results to [4:53] to look good for three months out of the [4:55] year and unfortunately I see that all [4:57] the time there's guys that look good for [4:59] literally three or four months and then [5:01] they spend the whole rest of the winter [5:02] either on a bulking program or whatever [5:04] they want to call it but they look like [5:06] crap for seven months out of the year so [5:09] if you're gonna have a program that [5:10] allows you to look good all the time and [5:13] not just for summer like the theme of [5:14] this video then it's got to be something [5:16] that you can follow so now my question [5:18] to you would be from a followability [5:21] standpoint you know what works for you [5:23] could intermittent fasting work for you [5:26] year round have you tried intermittent [5:29] fasting all yeah I did um and it was [5:33] actually after I saw your video I was [5:34] like I've never heard of that um yeah [5:36] but I tried it and yeah it's it's [5:38] probably not a longterm thing because [5:40] you just get ravenous like when you [5:42] haven't had your meal forever yeah I [5:44] mean and so the answer though is that [5:47] intermittent fasting done for a period [5:50] of time it certainly works like there's [5:51] guys that have used it that will get [5:54] results from it but my my question and [5:57] and always back and return is well [5:58] that's great you know do it short term [6:00] and again for the theme of this of this [6:03] video you know get ready for summer [6:05] maybe a guy wants to try that but if he [6:07] can't sustain that for the entire summer [6:08] he not going to sustain the look so I'm [6:10] always about trying to find long-term [6:13] Solutions so in the followability we [6:15] always want to make the nutrition as [6:17] simple as possible and you mentioned [6:19] carbohydrates being something that uh [6:22] can fluctuate for you I mean the reason [6:24] being is that the carbs are always going [6:25] to be for the most part uh the major [6:27] constituent of the three macro nutrients [6:29] in your diet right from fats to proteins [6:32] to carbohydrates so especially because [6:34] there's sort of two broad categories of [6:37] carbs your star two carbs and your [6:38] fibers carbs so they're going to make up [6:40] the most meaning that you're going to [6:42] have the most fluctuation between [6:44] percentages in that category you know [6:47] the carbohydrates so I kind of try to [6:50] break it down though instead of [6:52] measuring out your your macronutrients [6:54] to the gram of trying to is is there a [6:57] way that I can influence your decisions [6:59] on what to eat in a more broad sense [7:02] because that's just going to make it [7:03] easier for you if you have to count your [7:05] Macros every single day the likelyhood [7:07] that you're going to continue that year [7:09] round and look good year round is low so [7:13] yes there's an education component and [7:14] as you become more uh educated on it [7:17] you're going to be you know more [7:19] familiar without having to actually [7:20] measure but in the grand sense what I [7:23] like to say is when you're looking at [7:25] how to how to create a meal you should [7:28] look at your plate right as a way to [7:31] sort of visually divide that and for me [7:34] I always start with the protein because [7:35] I think that you need guys need to have [7:38] protein in every meal a constituent of [7:40] that should be protein and from there we [7:42] build off of that so the rest we [7:45] basically have like one third of that [7:46] plate covered by protein the rest of [7:48] that plate the twoth thirds should be [7:51] comprise your carbohydrates and I just [7:54] say of that two-thirds of the plate you [7:56] should double the amount of F of starchy [8:00] carbs so let's just say for I love sweet [8:02] potatoes so for me it's like sweet [8:03] potatoes is my starchy carb put double [8:05] the amount of your fibrous carbs on top [8:07] of that could be broccoli could be [8:09] spinach could be uh saut mushrooms could [8:12] be you know more of your starchy [8:13] carbohydrates it's gonna act as a as a [8:16] appetite suppressant you know it's going [8:18] to fill you up because of the the fiber [8:20] in the in the fiberous carbs and it will [8:22] still leave you feeling satisfied and [8:24] full because you're talking about a big [8:26] plate full of food right you got 2third [8:28] of of you know uh two times the amount [8:31] of your starchy carbs in fibrous carbs [8:33] and you have a big portion of protein [8:34] too so again I try to stay out of those [8:37] specific uh macronutrient numbers [8:40] because I feel that's where guys get [8:41] hung up and that's where results stop so [8:44] what I would recommend is if you're if [8:46] you're visually going for that in every [8:48] single meal then you need to start to [8:52] play around with your uh your your two [8:56] to two to one ratio there of your [8:57] fibrous to startg carbs if you find that [8:59] you're still either retaining too much [9:01] water or you find that you're still kind [9:02] of holding on to too much fat then maybe [9:05] that ratio needs to come a little bit [9:06] higher than two to one maybe it needs to [9:08] be more like three to one right or or or [9:10] two to a half you know just start to [9:13] favor it a little bit more start at one [9:15] meal like I would say start at dinner [9:18] because that's tend tends to be where [9:19] guys will maybe eat the wrong kind of [9:21] carbs uh there's really limited food [9:23] options when you're talking about [9:24] breakfast there's not so many meals that [9:26] people eat for breakfast but at dinner [9:27] there's so many different types so I [9:29] would start at dinner make your [9:31] modifications there and then see how [9:33] your body reacts over the course of the [9:36] next few days you know and then if [9:38] you're liking what you're seeing that [9:39] the direction you're going in then stick [9:41] with that if you don't like the [9:42] direction you're going in then kind of [9:44] shift that ratio but your protein [9:45] constituent should stay the same and [9:47] everything else should sort of stay the [9:48] same so it gives you an opportunity to [9:51] tweak your Macros without having to [9:52] break out you know the the calculators [9:55] to do everything mathematically to the [9:57] te because the second you as a student [10:00] don't have the time to do that you're [10:01] going to eat the wrong thing because [10:02] it's just easier to do it that way right [10:04] so we got to make sure you dialed in [10:06] making it simple perfect I'll jump over [10:09] to manur and then we'll go back uh for [10:12] another question manur what is uh what's [10:15] the question you have for [10:18] us um I just started taking the [10:20] supplements how do they um you [10:24] know H how how can I use them sort of [10:27] with the meal [10:28] plan that's a good question um you know [10:30] it depends [10:32] on it really again like so you're you [10:35] what what's it what's your typical day [10:36] like because you you're a father you [10:38] gota you gotta go to work what is your [10:40] typical day like when do you like to [10:41] work [10:43] out uh I train in the morning usually so [10:47] first thing in the morning yeah so I [10:49] usually get up and then you know I'm not [10:51] sure like do I skip breakfast and just [10:53] take the Pre-Workout or yeah so in terms [10:57] of working out in a completely fasted [11:00] State I personally can't do it I I I [11:03] find myself dragging if I don't have at [11:05] least something so what I would [11:07] recommend to you and you know in the the [11:09] the Pre-Workout alone is not going to be [11:12] all that satisfying but what I might do [11:14] is literally just take like like a [11:15] banana or something just something [11:17] really quick it's not considered your [11:19] breakfast so I'm not saying eat your [11:20] breakfast first it's just something to [11:22] put into your stomach to just give [11:24] yourself you know a little bit of [11:26] nutrition and also if you're the type [11:28] that gets distracted by hunger you can [11:30] kind of get that out of the way by [11:32] giving yourself at least something and [11:34] then take your pre-workout so the RX one [11:36] will you take then workout you should [11:38] take it around 30 minutes before you [11:40] work out but you work out after that and [11:42] then after you're done you'd have your [11:44] breakfast now going throughout the rest [11:47] of the day you can either there's two [11:50] options you can either have your [11:51] post-workout right there after your [11:53] breakfast it depends upon how much time [11:55] you have before you got to get out the [11:56] door but you could either have your [11:57] post-workout right then and there take [11:59] your breakfast with you to work if you [12:01] you know and eat it an hour and a half [12:03] or so later or you could eat that as [12:05] your your breakfast as your post-workout [12:08] and then treat your post-workout more as [12:10] a um as a meal replacement shake maybe [12:13] midm morning or um you know in the [12:17] afternoon as a mid as a mid-afternoon [12:18] snack so we've had guys do both and get [12:21] incredible results out of it so you know [12:24] you do have that that that window of um [12:27] of opportunity after you're done working [12:28] out out but provided you're following [12:30] the meals on the athletex meal plan that [12:32] are all structured you know in the same [12:34] way that our supplements are we giving [12:36] you what we think you need and and you [12:39] know not the stuff that you don't you [12:41] can use that as a [12:42] post-workout uh your one of your meals [12:44] as a post workout so you don't have to [12:45] feel so restrained to having the rx2 [12:48] immediately after you're done but we [12:50] have guys do both and they get [12:51] incredible results and of course at [12:53] night always before you go to bed uh rx3 [12:57] you the uh overnight recovery [12:59] is that similar to how you've been using [13:01] it or you have you been doing it [13:02] slightly [13:03] differently um yeah I'm kind of I've [13:06] been kind of you know sometimes I'll go [13:08] back and forth between skipping [13:09] breakfast and taking rx2 or taking or [13:12] having breakfast and then not taking rx2 [13:15] but rx2 is like I think that tastes [13:17] great you know and I love mixing it with [13:19] fruit and stuff so right right I [13:22] definitely want to get it in in my body [13:24] I just you know I wasn't sure the best [13:26] you know best way to do it because of my [13:27] my trading schedule [13:29] yeah great by the way what's that the [13:32] new formula is great it's it's it tastes [13:36] like candy if I told you how long we [13:38] worked on that you would be uh you [13:41] wouldn't believe me I mean we have I've [13:44] said before you know on our videos and [13:46] it's funny because I got a lot of [13:48] feedback on this past week's video uh [13:50] about my my take on some of the other [13:54] supplements that are out there but you [13:55] know I take this stuff really seriously [13:57] as you guys understand and um I uh you [14:00] know when I came up with uh these [14:02] formulas I really tried to do the best I [14:04] could and we did we had some early [14:05] feedback from guys that didn't like the [14:07] taste um and we worked hard on trying to [14:10] perfect that so I appreciate the [14:13] feedback because I know how much went it [14:14] to try to make sure that they were uh as [14:16] good as we can make [14:18] them um Jackson I'll go back to you [14:21] what's another thing that's sort of on [14:23] your mind actually Ryan just uh just [14:26] joined us and when he tuned will be able [14:29] to get his take too what's up [14:32] Ryan I don't think you can hear us yet [14:35] so while he's figuring out his audio uh [14:37] Jackson what's your question uh I know [14:40] that sometimes you talk about like [14:42] making sure of not overtraining or like [14:44] adding things into to the workout uh [14:47] program because you try to have it all [14:49] Incorporated uh one thing I've been [14:50] doing a lot though is like biking to [14:52] school uh and it's only maybe four miles [14:54] but you know it's like eight miles there [14:56] and back sometimes I have to go twice so [14:58] that's like 16 miles of biking in a day [15:01] do you think is that like becoming too [15:02] much um should I try to drive more or is [15:05] it still healthy to do [15:07] that there's there's two things when it [15:09] comes to overtraining the first thing is [15:11] you have to uh do a self assessment so [15:14] do you find that you're you're dragging [15:17] you know at the end of a day or do you [15:19] find that when you're about ready to hit [15:20] your next strength trending workout you [15:22] don't have the ability to exert the [15:24] energy that you wish you would or that [15:27] you're uh even that your weights aren't [15:29] increasing at any point because your [15:31] strength levels aren't going up um do [15:33] you find that you have Disturbed sleep [15:35] that you can't really sleep well at [15:37] night um those are sort of indicators [15:40] that you might be overtraining um and if [15:43] that's the case I would start looking at [15:45] some of those other things you know some [15:47] to some guys that and maybe to you that [15:51] that bike ride is nothing because you do [15:52] it so often you know so it's really not [15:55] taxing you in a way that would that [15:56] would cause you to be overtraining uh [15:59] especially if in all the other areas [16:00] you're uh you're excelling you know that [16:03] you're not seeing any of that um but you [16:06] can you know you can kind of gauge that [16:08] yourself it's it's funny because I was [16:10] just having a discussion with someone [16:11] about this um [16:13] yesterday it tends to be that the the [16:16] the the type of conditioning in cardio [16:18] that leads to the most overtraining is [16:21] sort of that midlevel um mid-level [16:23] exertion so the guys are training really [16:25] hard like they do with athl burst [16:27] training right it's it's brief it's [16:29] intense it is both anerobic and aerobic [16:33] uh it gets the benefits of both and then [16:34] it gets you out of the gym it's it's a [16:36] nice uh it's a nice uh you know partner [16:40] for the strength training workouts [16:41] because it doesn't lead to high high [16:43] volumes and you know eventually [16:46] overtraining the low like real low [16:49] intensity stuff the stuff where you're [16:50] like on a Sunday walk with your [16:51] girlfriend I mean that that you know [16:53] that's not even high enough intensity to [16:55] cause any type of over training you [16:57] could do that for six hours in the day [16:58] and it's just not there's just no [17:00] intensity there so you know your bike [17:01] ride I'm sure would probably fall into [17:03] that range that potentially could do [17:05] that but if you're not seeing any of [17:07] those sort of uh um indicators of of [17:11] overtraining then I would say no you [17:12] don't you don't have to you don't have [17:14] to worry about okay perfect thank you [17:16] hey Ryan you with us yeah can you hear [17:18] me I can how's it going awesome good [17:22] how's it going you up here up here up [17:24] here Wisconsin where it's cold yet oh is [17:26] it still cold there yeah it's still [17:28] 50 today so I mean it's getting better [17:30] we just got our first warm day here so [17:32] did where you connect it right yeah yeah [17:35] see more no uh we're down in Fairfield [17:38] County [17:39] so okay gotta yeah my question uh now [17:43] when you do e burst trading Jeff do you [17:45] recommend doing it in the morning for [17:47] the best results or do you recommend [17:49] doing it you know in the afternoon like [17:50] after work or something it's funny you [17:52] my answer to this question is always [17:54] whenever the hell you're going to do it [17:56] you know because as long as you don't if [17:58] you're consistency is the key for [17:59] anything you know whether it's following [18:02] a workout program or whether it's you [18:04] know following a specific part of a [18:06] workout program be it conditioning or [18:07] weight training it's consistency right I [18:10] mean especially I could tell you just [18:11] from a standpoint of you know I never [18:14] saw results personally in my own [18:16] workouts until I got consistent about it [18:18] and and it wasn't until I actually [18:19] started caring about uh the outcomes so [18:22] we're sort of caught in this catch22 [18:24] where you don't care because you don't [18:26] see the results you know what I mean [18:29] you can't stay motivated so you got to [18:31] have that turning point where you're [18:32] able to finally start seeing results [18:35] because then you're like oh I actually [18:36] look better from the work I'm putting in [18:38] I want to continue to do this it makes [18:40] consistency a lot easier I think that's [18:42] the key to a program like a x is if we [18:45] can generate results like you guys have [18:47] had you know you start to see you start [18:49] to feel more uh more uh inspired by that [18:52] to stay with it but in terms of specific [18:55] conditioning um again it falls in that [18:57] same thing whenever you can do it so I [18:59] have guys that will write to us and tell [19:01] us they got great results doing it first [19:02] thing in the morning um a guy like manur [19:05] probably who works out first thing in [19:06] the morning if he doesn't do it then [19:09] he's probably not g to do it because you [19:11] got two kids by the end of the day he [19:13] things come up you know we always kind [19:15] of let things get in the way and it the [19:18] the chances that you're going to get [19:19] that workout done go down so I would say [19:23] that if it works for you best in the [19:24] morning and that's when you're going to [19:25] do it then definitely do it you know we [19:27] know that from on a [19:28] um in a fasted State you're going to be [19:31] able to you know uh depending upon again [19:33] the intensity that you're doing it at [19:35] hopefully at a high intensity you're [19:36] going to be able to get a little bit [19:37] more fat oxidation more quickly so if [19:40] you are that type that needs that extra [19:42] little boost there then yeah then try to [19:43] do it in the morning but again if the if [19:46] the difference is do it in the morning [19:48] and get a little bit of extra boost or [19:50] or don't do it in the morning but just [19:52] make sure I'm consistent with it and get [19:53] the the additive benefits of it then [19:55] make sure you do it where you're going [19:56] to do it consistently okay and then um [19:59] kind of to piggy back off that if I'm [20:01] doing like an ax2 workout late at night [20:03] one night and then I want to do it early [20:04] in the morning is that really going to [20:06] affect my results I mean how much time [20:07] should you loot between those I mean sh [20:09] if I'm doing like um a Tuesday night [20:11] night workout then I don't have time [20:13] Wednesday night but Wednesday morning I [20:14] mean is it gon No it should no because I [20:17] mean well are you are you a supplement [20:19] user or are you an AR absolutely all [20:21] right so I mean if you if you are you [20:23] know taking the recovery at night again [20:25] and optimizing and doing the things I [20:27] always tell you guys to do to actually [20:28] value your sleep because it's really [20:30] where you grow you grow during your [20:31] sleep not in the gym you know I can't [20:33] understand that enough is the gym is the [20:34] stimulus but the only place that you [20:36] actually do the growth is when you're [20:37] sleeping if you're taking the [20:39] supplements and you're you're you're [20:40] using them and optimizing your recovery [20:43] you know you got to remember too that [20:45] even if you're doing another strength [20:46] training workout the next day and even [20:47] if it's early in the morning um the way [20:50] we try to design those is to not be [20:51] doing them in the same uh the same [20:54] muscle groups right you don't want to [20:55] hit the same muscle groups right there [20:56] back to back so so you want to give [20:59] yourself the opportunity to switch up [21:01] the area of focus so that uh we talk [21:05] push pulling you know if you do a a [21:07] pushing muscle group one night you're [21:09] doing a pulling muscle group the next [21:10] night you actually could have the the [21:12] benefits of um enhanced recovery because [21:15] you're working the antagonistic muscles [21:16] to the ones you just used so you're [21:18] getting almost like a stretching effect [21:20] on the muscles that you work the night [21:22] prior an active stretch of the muscles [21:24] you were the night prior okay no big [21:26] deal it's totally totally fine sure okay [21:30] cool we just had uh who joined us John [21:35] yeah I joh can hear me yeah I can hear [21:38] you oh cool y you sporting the athlete [21:41] next [21:43] gear on the [21:47] hat I think we lost him yeah I think so [21:50] he froze in time oh yeah I am oh all [21:54] people are gonna think that I [21:57] put [21:59] do me a favor turn down your um um turn [22:01] down your uh uh um your your your your [22:06] signal on the upper right hand side of [22:07] the screen there where those bars are [22:10] turn it down just like one notch or so [22:13] and should improve your connection [22:15] hopefully [22:19] okay so what's your uh what's your [22:21] question sorry about [22:23] that um hit mob hit [22:26] Mobility um are you I I have really bad [22:30] hit [22:31] Mobility yeah I play [22:33] baseball [22:35] okay that's not a good combination for a [22:38] baseball [22:39] player that's not a good combination [22:42] player so what's what's [22:45] upil it's a lot of in my hip flexors [22:48] yeah and I can't I can't squat down low [22:50] very [22:51] well and let me guess you're a [22:53] catcher no or an infielder um I in first [22:58] base okay you got you gota be able to [23:01] squat yeah so what's what are you what's [23:04] the [23:05] problem um I'm I'm really tight down [23:09] like I can't squat or anything but are [23:12] you finding that you're having [23:13] limitations squatting like you can't get [23:15] down low [23:16] enough yeah you know most likely not a [23:19] hip flexor issue because as you know [23:21] when you when you squat down the hip [23:22] flexors are shortening so either a glute [23:26] issue with which is rarely um you know a [23:30] problem and more likely an ankle issue [23:33] and when I say ankle you got to look at [23:35] the muscles at Cross the ankle so most [23:36] likely a calf issue uh tightness in your [23:39] calves do you do you stretch your calves [23:41] all or do you know if you have tight [23:43] calves yeah I I have really tight calves [23:46] and really tight hips yeah I [23:48] mean yeah you you definitely have to I [23:51] mean in calf stretching is one of those [23:53] things that you have to do every day [23:56] it's it's again it goes back back to [23:58] what I was talking about with with Ryan [24:00] about consistency you have to do calf [24:01] stretching every day because it's it's [24:05] one of those muscles that again is being [24:06] relied on daily as we work uh as we walk [24:10] and uh the this the tight situations [24:14] that have built up and developed over [24:16] the the years um are not going to be [24:19] something that's undone with either [24:20] inconsistent work or um you know not not [24:25] a severe enough Focus to it so so some [24:28] of the things I like to do obviously you [24:30] got to make sure that you're stretching [24:31] your calves out both with a straight [24:32] knee and a bent [24:33] knee so there's a difference right when [24:36] we're when we're stretching the uh the [24:38] gas rock out you want to make sure you [24:39] have your knee straight to get the Solus [24:42] which I think is going to be more of an [24:43] issue for you is is probably underlying [24:46] Sol is tightness you're going to want to [24:48] have a bent knee so you can go to like [24:51] the easiest way to do it I always [24:52] recommend is go to like a a a step in [24:55] your house you know hold on somewhere [24:57] just let your ankles kind of drop off [24:58] the back of the step make sure your [25:00] knees are locked solid locked out so we [25:04] can make sure you're you're maximizing [25:05] gas Rock stretch there you can tighten [25:07] your quads to actually do that let your [25:10] your ankles just drop over the you know [25:11] over the edge of the step just like that [25:14] you know and get a good stretch in [25:15] through the uh through the ankles and [25:18] then after you stretch that then bend [25:20] your knees so squat down same position [25:22] bend your knees and squat down so you [25:24] can get the Solus involved and again I [25:27] think that for most guys who are going [25:28] to Short change their cap stretching [25:30] they sure as hell AR going to put an [25:32] effort into their solia stretching and I [25:33] think that's where you know guys can [25:35] totally uh benefit so if you that out [25:39] you know and then as far as the the hips [25:41] go um don't underestimate foam rolling [25:44] for the hips too you know I'm talking [25:45] about side of the hips IT band and and [25:48] the glutes do you do any foam rolling at [25:51] all no I've never done it no you got to [25:53] get one I mean they're very inexpensive [25:55] they're only about 20 bucks or so you [25:57] know you roll R out your glutes you roll [25:58] out your uh uh IT bands you just kind of [26:01] lay on the side of it and use that to uh [26:04] to do it because it's not always about [26:06] the flexibility of a muscle or how far [26:08] you can stretch point A to point B but [26:10] it's what's the quality of the muscle in [26:12] at all points in between there's a big [26:14] difference just being able to pull this [26:16] side further away from that side doesn't [26:18] necessarily do anything to improve the [26:20] quality of that muscle in here if this [26:22] is all filled up with Kinks there's [26:24] nothing that's going to get that out [26:26] other than kind of rolling those Kinks [26:27] out [26:28] you remember doing that after weight [26:30] training right after yeah yeah I think [26:33] it's a great time for it you recovery [26:35] wise okay all right that's [26:39] cool who uh man do you have another [26:44] [Music] [26:46] question is manur there yeah I'm here [26:50] you got another question [26:56] um [26:59] you didn't prepare for this or [27:02] something I'm sorry I'm getting [27:05] interference as you guys know I kind of [27:07] did let me just recap while he's [27:08] thinking of this question I I literally [27:11] um announced this uh last minute up on [27:13] Facebook I thought it' be a cool thing [27:14] to do as a different type of video that [27:17] we could put out uh for our fans and did [27:20] it here kind of last minute announced a [27:22] Google+ hangout these guys uh were [27:24] selected uh from the group that posted [27:27] and uh here we are and you know [27:30] answering their questions so if these [27:31] you know we might do some more of these [27:32] throughout um you know the months [27:35] ahead so what what uh what's what do you [27:43] got is he still [27:46] there I think he's think he lost [27:51] connection [27:52] um anybody else have a [27:55] question um I got one [27:58] okay um as only being 16 yeah and I've [28:03] been running my own workout programs and [28:05] stuff do you have any advice on becoming [28:07] a fitness entrepreneur like [28:10] yourself uh you know I think you you [28:13] probably got the uh the first ingredient [28:15] which is to have a passion for it you [28:18] know I think if you have a passion for [28:20] uh for Fitness um it's going to consume [28:22] you uh it's something that literally [28:24] consumed me from high school so right [28:27] around your age right a little bit [28:28] probably 15 years old was really when it [28:30] first but um if you've got a passion for [28:33] it you'll find that you wake up every [28:35] day thinking of new things to do and and [28:38] uh new ways that you can make yourself [28:40] better and then at that point when [28:42] you've kind of you know figured out what [28:45] is helping you you become so excited [28:48] about it you want to tell other people [28:50] right so uh in this day and age with the [28:53] fact that we live in this you know uh [28:56] world of such access through things like [28:58] Google+ Hangouts and the internet and uh [29:01] YouTube and everything else like it [29:03] becomes a lot easier to spread your [29:04] message to people right you know so I [29:07] think if you've got the passion in terms [29:09] of an educational standpoint I'll never [29:12] um I I would never trade in my my uh uh [29:16] education as a physical therapist [29:17] because it Mak it makes me look at [29:19] things completely differently you know I [29:21] remember how I looked at things as as a [29:23] guy that was that just liked working out [29:26] um in high school you know I used to go [29:28] to the gym and do everything that you [29:29] got played Sports and I like I like to [29:30] work out but it wasn't until I became a [29:33] physical therapist that I was forced to [29:34] like look at things a lot more uh uh [29:38] critically you know or or in I think in [29:40] a way that could be way way more [29:42] productive um I think one of my biggest [29:44] strengths is as a PT from being a PT is [29:47] the ability to adapt on the Fly come up [29:50] with variations for exercises you know [29:52] listen to what someone's Uh current [29:54] situation is and come up with a an [29:56] exercise on the spot that would allow [29:58] them to still see the benefits of what [30:00] that exercise is despite the fact that [30:02] they might have a limitation because you [30:03] shouldn't just have to throw in the [30:05] towel if you've got a uh an exercise [30:07] limitation right or I mean like maybe a [30:11] sore shoulder or a bum knee you know [30:13] I've been working out with two bum knees [30:15] for the for the last you know five years [30:18] but it I'm still able to do what I have [30:20] to do uh because there's other things we [30:22] can do there's other ways we can train [30:24] them that don't just bang away at those [30:26] at those a so if you could and you can [30:30] steer yourself down the road of of of [30:32] physical therapy and having that sort of [30:34] knowledge dude I would definitely go for [30:36] it you know and it's going to make you [30:37] look at things a lot differently but you [30:39] don't have to depart from your initial [30:41] love which is strength and conditioning [30:43] all right thank you Jeff any certif any [30:46] certifications you recommend for [30:48] personal training wise I've been kind of [30:49] like dangling with the idea of getting [30:51] more involved in that than I am right [30:52] now and I'm the one who ask my personal [30:54] training questions to see if you're [30:55] coming out with some kind of [30:56] certification for athl act sometime [30:58] future yeah well the good news is we are [31:01] actually um it's something as you can [31:03] imagine it's it's a it's uh there's a [31:06] lot that goes into it because we're not [31:08] trying to create um you know uh a [31:11] weekend certification course you know [31:13] like come and then you leave and all of [31:15] a sudden you're you're certified and can [31:17] go off on your way and I mean there's [31:18] there's a lot of places out there where [31:20] I don't want to name name specific [31:21] groups and names but you know there [31:24] there are lot lots of areas that are [31:26] utilizing that type of certification [31:28] program and um unfortunately you know [31:31] they're creating some dangerous training [31:33] environments for people that don't know [31:34] any better you know uh and we wouldn't [31:38] we're not We're not gonna do that you [31:39] know we're gonna kind of raise the bar [31:41] on the the standards for that but one [31:43] group that I think that does do a good [31:45] job of that currently and the one that [31:48] I'm actually part of and it wasn't that [31:49] I made the um that I made the uh uh [31:53] decision to even join them over all the [31:56] others it was that it was what was [31:58] recommended to me at a very early stage [32:00] coming out of college was the national [32:03] strength and conditioning Association so [32:05] the NCA I think they are the gold [32:07] standard in um in strength and [32:09] conditioning right now of all the [32:11] organizations I know there's a lot of [32:12] them out there but they're the ones that [32:14] kind of uh I think hold the highest [32:16] standards you know you have to be a um a [32:19] college grad you got to hold a degree in [32:20] a related field um you know they they [32:23] kind of have their requirements a lot [32:25] more than that there's there's a more [32:26] EXT a testing phase um you know there's [32:30] they do it I think they do it right you [32:32] know and and uh again I'm I could say [32:35] things about them if I wanted to it's [32:37] not like I'm an ambassador for them I [32:38] just that's the organization that uh I [32:41] was told to join as I said first coming [32:43] out that's the one that we actually [32:45] interestingly from Major League Baseball [32:48] um the strength coaches are all required [32:50] to be members of the national strength [32:51] and conditioning Association okay that's [32:53] any indication for you I would say that [32:55] that's the one held in the highest [32:56] regard y okay cool yeah except we kind [32:58] of like holding off you know as far as [33:00] getting certified I mean I did it [33:01] part-time here and there but I mean just [33:03] with my fitness knowledge but um I mean [33:07] yeah I just curious if you're coming up [33:08] with something that's kind of good it's [33:09] good to hear that's cool so yeah yeah we [33:11] will uh the time frame I'm not quite [33:13] sure on yet but we uh uh as I said [33:16] because we're gonna all the stuff that [33:17] we have to put together to to do it um [33:20] is is pretty massive but it's definitely [33:22] something the works because like you [33:24] there have been so many guys have been [33:25] writing in I know I have a lot of [33:26] trainers that follow my stuff and um I [33:29] think it'd be a cool opportunity to not [33:31] just provide some sort of certification [33:33] but uh get a little bit more uh direct [33:36] time with the guys like you who Wanna uh [33:38] want to take it to that next level yeah [33:40] that'd be [33:41] cool um anybody else did uh did man find [33:45] his way back in here or [33:47] no no I think he's gone he gone how [33:50] about Jackson what's up with you any [33:52] other questions yeah um I actually have [33:54] two I think one of them will be really [33:55] easy to answer uh and it's just what um [33:59] what would your workout or exercise [34:01] alternative be for dips like upright [34:04] dips I've been doing decline bench press [34:07] but I don't know if you have like [34:08] another recommendation other than [34:10] that for what reason medically or or [34:14] because you're just looking for a [34:15] different a different no because I like [34:18] I either have the option of going to the [34:19] USF Gym and waiting forever for all of [34:21] the equipment or I can go to my um [34:25] apartment gym which doesn't have a place [34:27] that I can do dips but I take my [34:29] dumbbells and I I can do most of the [34:30] stuff there but I can't do the dips like [34:33] they don't so you're your environment [34:35] would be a home training environment [34:38] yeah yeah [34:41] um put me on the spot like I said I can [34:43] come up with exercises on the Fly for [34:45] anybody that needs any kind of what [34:47] about pushing what about pushing two [34:49] benches together yeah Ian you can do [34:51] that what I would actually recommend one [34:52] of my favorite things is the um uh we [34:55] call them those Cobra push-ups where you [34:56] scoop [34:57] under right so now if you come from the [35:00] top the first part of the exercise is [35:02] actually as you come down is just a a u [35:05] really upper chest into shoulders but [35:08] mostly upper chest then when you come [35:10] underneath the the the bottom Point here [35:12] and you push up and through that's all [35:14] triceps especially if your elbows are [35:16] nice and tight to your side right you're [35:17] going to want to make sure that your [35:18] elbows are tight kept tight to your side [35:20] slightly behind your body because the [35:22] triceps will you know also extend the [35:24] arm behind the body this way right you [35:26] know so what you want to do is focus on [35:29] that latter part because it's that it's [35:31] that push up and through that's going to [35:33] work all triceps for the most part and [35:36] then come back down now if you push back [35:38] up and out of it you're really working [35:39] shoulders and then back into the upper [35:41] chest again but if that's not the target [35:43] of what you're looking for at the time I [35:46] always thought it I always thought it [35:47] was more of like a chest exercise like [35:49] it seems it's really a great exercise [35:52] for that whole pushing you know uh uh [35:55] muscle group you know action so you're [35:56] going to be obviously in any uh push [35:59] action you've got involvement of uh [36:00] shoulders chest and triceps but that [36:03] last part of the of the exercise just [36:05] swooping up and through and really [36:07] extending and pushing straight you know [36:08] straight down as your elbows stay tight [36:10] to your sides that's really highly uh [36:13] tricep oriented so I would I would I [36:16] would for me that would be one of my [36:17] favorite because I still love a tricep [36:19] push-up but I think you get more uh more [36:22] benefits from the actual uh swoop up [36:25] than you do from just a regular pushup [36:27] okay because you're decreasing the [36:29] involvement of the chest that way if you [36:30] stay straight straight like this doing a [36:32] tricep push-up you're still going to [36:33] have heavy involvement of the chest [36:35] you're still going to get front delt so [36:36] you want to make sure you can kind of [36:38] eliminate that a little bit and that's [36:39] why we add that little upward scoop well [36:41] I was what I was thinking though is that [36:43] like the upright dips were were more for [36:45] chest than they are for triceps or is [36:47] that incorrect no no no incorrect [36:49] upright upright dips you're really [36:50] trying to uh Target triceps with that [36:53] that's why again you kind of got to look [36:54] at it like um uh you know if you look at [36:59] the angles right the angles Against [37:00] Gravity so gravity we know acts straight [37:03] down so if you're looking at the Angles [37:05] and you're doing an upright dip if your [37:07] elbows are straight here and you're [37:08] standing nice and tall and you're [37:10] pushing up you're really focus on mostly [37:12] just the triceps to do the lifting part [37:14] of the exercise to push your body up [37:16] against Gravity the more you start to [37:18] lean forward if you start to do this [37:20] there's more gravity now hitting the [37:22] back of your you know more surface area [37:24] for Gravity to act on so it's going to [37:26] start acting more in this direction here [37:28] more surface area across the back and [37:30] then by tilting you're exposing now the [37:32] chest to actually the pushing exercise [37:34] almost like the it's like a um it's like [37:37] what happens with a incline a flat bench [37:39] versus a a sit up a stand up U seated uh [37:43] seated press when you're laying flat [37:45] gravity is working all across your [37:46] muscles here so you're working mostly [37:48] chest as you start to raise that incline [37:51] up now gravity is working straight [37:53] through here which is the shoulder so [37:54] now they're going to have to work [37:55] against gravity but the chest is sort of [37:57] taken out of the equation so it's sort [37:59] of a way to think about how your body is [38:02] positioned against the force that you're [38:03] pushing against yes we're using the [38:05] dumbbells but we're always Fighting [38:06] Gravity too so the more upright you are [38:08] in a dip the more you're going to work [38:10] your triceps the more forward you are [38:11] the more you're going to work your uh uh [38:13] chest oh well that's that's good to know [38:16] I was I always thought it was more of [38:17] like a chest one but no Lean Forward [38:19] just lean in more lean in more and [38:21] forward when you do your when you're [38:23] trying to Target if you're doing it for [38:24] a chest related workout lean in more to [38:27] get more chest and then so when you want [38:29] to try to isolate that you know as much [38:31] as you can we know that it's still going [38:32] to work all of your muscles there [38:33] they're all that's why they all work [38:34] together but when they're when you're [38:36] upright you're GNA favor the triceps [38:38] more yeah well I have another question [38:39] but I'll let John or Ryan if they have [38:41] if they have one we'll go with one more [38:43] uh one more across the board and then [38:45] we'll uh we'll call it a [38:47] day so whoever wants to go first [38:52] um what uh he's choking under [38:58] pressure no I got the question it's a i [39:01] supplements aren't really an option for [39:03] me uhhuh because I really don't have [39:05] that much money y um what would you [39:07] suggest for a pre and [39:10] post I mean I think you know and it's [39:13] interesting because you know that when [39:14] it when it comes to supplements I get [39:15] that question all the time is if [39:16] supplements are absolutely necessary to [39:19] results and it you know really depends [39:21] because it depends on what your goals [39:23] are you know when I did a video a while [39:25] back on [39:27] um the topic of food versus supplements [39:29] you know you look at a supplement like [39:31] uh like creatine you know and if you're [39:34] desire if you're a believer in creatin [39:36] monohydrate or or crealine or whatever [39:38] you know just the the base effects of [39:40] creatin and you want to experience the [39:42] benefits that research shows that it [39:44] will give you it's going to be damn hard [39:46] to do without supplementation because [39:49] the amount of let's say steak that you'd [39:51] have to eat to get the the adequate [39:53] amounts that have been shown to benefit [39:55] you would would be almost impossible you [39:57] know to do that now you're going to get [40:00] not not just that you're going to get [40:01] all the extra uh the extra stuff that [40:04] comes with that so like the saturated [40:05] fat from the from the 16 pounds of steak [40:08] that you'd have to eat to get your your [40:09] creatin you know to equate to a five [40:11] gram dose so the idea is um [40:16] supplementation depending upon what your [40:18] goals are is sometimes more more [40:21] necessary than others um and it [40:22] certainly makes things more convenient [40:24] but there's a lot of guys like you that [40:25] are in your situation that don't have [40:27] the the means yet to be using them so I [40:30] say you know pre-workout you got to make [40:33] sure that you've got some sustainable [40:35] energy you don't want to load up too [40:36] much pre-workout you know even RX1 we've [40:39] only got a limited amount of calories in [40:41] there it's not about loading yourself up [40:42] with calories it's just giving yourself [40:44] good quality food um to have some uh to [40:48] sort of set the stage for your workout [40:50] to have enough energy to go through I [40:51] always used to eat a banana myself um [40:54] just have a banana maybe a little bit of [40:55] peanut butter [40:57] uh the you know the the peanut butter [40:59] providing a little bit of protein I [41:00] always like to have all three components [41:03] but the uh the peanut butter will [41:05] actually with the fats will actually [41:06] slow down the absorption a little bit of [41:08] the banana so you're looking at a more [41:10] high glycemic carb uh slow it down [41:12] slightly with the peanut butter sort of [41:14] like a perfect mix uh pre-workout again [41:17] you're not you're not loading up too [41:18] much it's it's really kind of a small [41:20] quantity but it will get you through [41:21] post-workout wise um again you want to [41:24] make sure first and foremost you get [41:26] protein after your workout uh I talked [41:28] about that in the video how carbs can [41:30] kind of interfere people have different [41:32] views on on how much carbs should be [41:34] involved in that post-workout um you [41:37] know uh drink or meal um first and [41:41] foremost you need you need to find [41:42] protein so it could be something uh as [41:46] boring as uh I don't know like a [41:50] um some egg whites or a glass of milk or [41:55] um you know cottage cheese you know like [41:58] something you know you got to make sure [42:00] you get your protein right and you know [42:03] if you if you if you again I I prefer in [42:07] that time I I prefer post-workout Shake [42:09] but you know if the limitation is there [42:12] then you gotta find you gotta find [42:13] suitable Alternatives uh I just wouldn't [42:15] I wouldn't go in and start eating [42:17] something like is uh um as tough to [42:20] break down say a steak you know [42:22] post-workout because a little bit it's [42:24] going to be a little bit harder for you [42:25] to assimilate that and and digest it so [42:27] I would I would probably stick with more [42:28] of the types of foods that I that I [42:30] suggested all right [42:33] thanks all right I got h two quick [42:35] questions Jeff um number one to pigy [42:38] back off the protein the women's protein [42:40] I'm trying to get my my girlfriend to [42:42] they know I'm trying to explain the [42:44] difference between women's bodies and [42:45] men's bodies and soy protein and [42:47] whatever what I guess what how do you [42:50] explain like the way the way that works [42:52] compared to what athlet the three-step [42:54] stage of athlet x men works so from how [42:58] the women's protein differs from the [43:00] three steps of RX1 123 yeah exactly I [43:03] mean we we uh we don't from a protein [43:06] standpoint we use uh isolate protein [43:08] over there way isolate protein um [43:11] because we we find that it's it's the [43:15] best but it's the highest quality [43:16] protein out there and the requirements [43:19] are going to be the same from a woman or [43:21] a man um at least in terms of the [43:23] quality of the protein um you know [43:26] I think that there are definitely [43:29] opportunities for um you know whether it [43:32] be a pure isolate or or a concentrate or [43:35] a blend we use a blend in ours because [43:38] we sort of have you know the the the [43:40] different stages even in rx3 we have a [43:43] blend of casin and way isolate you know [43:46] the fast acting way and the slower [43:48] digesting casin um but for our woman's [43:51] blend because we're sort of treating it [43:52] like a post-workout posttraining blend [43:54] it's just the way isol it [43:56] so I mean there's not much different she [43:58] could get away with doing rx2 but we put [44:02] other ingredients into rx4 that would be [44:04] more uh appropriate for a woman so we [44:07] you know we put extra calcium for you [44:09] know for uh bone density reasons we [44:11] actually put in res veritol and some [44:13] other ingredients that a lot of women [44:15] are already taking CoQ10 things that [44:18] women are already probably taking for [44:20] the heart benefits or for the anti-aging [44:22] Properties or you know the other reasons [44:24] why women take that healthier skin [44:26] healthier Nails you know things that [44:28] guys may not necessarily care about so [44:30] much but we sort of put that in the [44:32] blend with the protein but by and large [44:35] it's a it's a it's a way U it's a way [44:37] it's a way isolate protein pattern so [44:39] she could she could theoretically use RX [44:42] too but I think you know I don't know if [44:44] she wants to get the benefits of [44:45] crealine and some of the other things we [44:47] put in there sure and then um other [44:50] question here real quick is sometimes [44:51] when the exercise calls for 10 to 12 um [44:54] you know sometimes using weights that [44:55] you know make me fail other than like [44:57] nine eight maybe sometimes 10 I might do [45:00] myself a favor by using a little heavier [45:02] weight and failing in eight to 10 rather [45:04] than 10 to 12 or is that do me a [45:06] disservice uh yeah the if you do the [45:11] um um if you I always say when you don't [45:15] your muscles don't know the difference [45:17] of you know whe whether you are counting [45:20] out 8 9 10 11 12 they don't know the [45:23] difference all they're looking for is [45:24] perceived exertion so [45:26] if you can beat them up and you're using [45:28] a weight that you were hoping to get 10 [45:30] to 12 out of but you w up getting nine [45:32] you know don't no worries you don't have [45:34] to worry about that um you just have to [45:38] uh know that what you did in that set [45:40] you gave it all you you gave it all you [45:42] had okay so I never get hung up on [45:45] numbers ever ever never I mean I just [45:46] use it as a guideline I say 10 to 12 [45:48] should be your range because that's [45:49] where we want to get you like I find if [45:51] you're working out and you're and you're [45:52] failing in like the 3 four five range [45:55] you're really not Focus so much on [45:56] hypertrophy as you are um as you should [45:59] be so let me give you the range of 10 to [46:01] 12 but I personally almost in all my [46:04] workouts never consistently hit 10 to 12 [46:07] reps all the time okay [46:11] cool and then uh Jackson got one more [46:14] yeah my last qu um for the I think it's [46:17] called the six-pack promise or something [46:19] like that uh that's on the the portal do [46:22] you recommend doing that with the [46:24] program because there I never really [46:26] remember reading anything about using it [46:27] in conjunction or if you're just [46:29] supposed to get the majority of the core [46:31] from the actual exercises no yeah I uh [46:34] we get that question a lot I definitely [46:36] um we included it now with athle x uh [46:39] because I think it's a great thing to do [46:41] um you know directly I do ab work uh six [46:44] days a week so I always treat it [46:46] separately from my ab Works my ab [46:48] workouts now if it's a dedicated day on [46:50] athletex that already has just AB [46:52] training in it no need to do additional [46:54] AB training but on the days that doesn't [46:57] have direct AB training on it you can do [46:59] the six-pack promise and really again it [47:02] goes down to consistency me personally [47:04] I've always done AB uh ABS consistently [47:07] but for just literally seven eight [47:09] minutes a day that's it and I usually [47:11] like to treat it on its own time you [47:14] know I like to treat it in its own [47:16] separate part of the [47:17] workout so I I'll do it like if I can [47:20] I'll work [47:21] out people don't want to leave me [47:24] alone [47:28] so anyway if um if I if I had to that [47:32] was a guy calling in a question from the [47:34] uh from the Google [47:36] Hangout if I had to if I had to uh do it [47:39] separ if I could do it separately I [47:41] would do it separately I would do like [47:42] my my workout let's say in the morning [47:44] mid morning afternoon whenever and for [47:46] me a little trick I do I do my ab work [47:49] right before dinner because I know that [47:51] I'm never going to forget to eat dinner [47:52] in a night and if I'm not going to [47:54] forget to eat dinner then I shouldn't [47:55] forget to do my my abs so I'll do a [47:57] little seven minute 8 Minute routine [47:58] perfect from the six-pack promise you [48:00] know you pick one of the shuffle [48:01] workouts do that workout and then go eat [48:05] because you know that you've not [48:06] forgotten to do it and again for me just [48:08] like everything else consistency is key [48:12] on the sixth day you just prefer to do [48:13] abs don't do any running or anything [48:15] like that yeah I just do abs yeah even [48:18] even if it's a rest and Recovery day [48:20] yeah right I always allow myself one day [48:22] to do nothing to do absolutely nothing [48:24] no training nothing but uh from a from a [48:28] a workout standpoint if it's an off day [48:31] um I I will still do my abs and not and [48:34] not consider that a training day because [48:36] abs are so [48:37] resilient they're they're they're [48:39] constantly firing they're constantly you [48:41] know used to the the work that they have [48:43] to do um so I would I would uh not [48:46] consider that really a dedicated app [48:49] session you know the thing with abs too [48:50] is very rarely are you soar the next day [48:52] from them you usually just soar during [48:54] the the seven eight 10 minutes that [48:56] you're doing them and as soon as you [48:57] stop you feel fine so uh they're very [49:00] very resilient okay cool cool all right [49:06] guys well we went uh pretty long here [49:08] but um I appreciate you guys following [49:12] um me and watching all the videos and [49:15] your support and being over on Facebook [49:17] and uh um it's it's huge I mean the athl [49:20] x is really uh I know I don't get an [49:22] opportunity to get on YouTube and do a [49:24] lot of commenting and replying to [49:26] comments and I wish I could do a lot [49:27] more of it I do but uh I spend all my [49:30] time trying to create the videos that [49:32] you see ultimately on Saturdays and to [49:35] come up with and maybe do some um you [49:37] know create new programs and new things [49:39] that you guys want to see um that at [49:41] times I don't get a chance to do enough [49:43] of this but this is something I'd like [49:44] to do more of it gives me an opportunity [49:46] to get in here maybe in the midweek and [49:49] uh and do this So for anybody that's not [49:51] watching um or or for anybody that's [49:53] going to be watching this later if you [49:55] wanted to be a part of something like [49:57] this I'm usually going to announce this [49:59] kind of over on my Facebook page so if [50:01] you're not already over there as a fan [50:03] would just be [50:04] facebook.com aanx and um we'll kind of [50:08] announce when we're going to do this [50:09] maybe a little bit more of a heads up I [50:11] know Jackson said he kind of skipped out [50:12] of a class I'm gonna get killed by his [50:14] Professor for you know getting him out [50:16] out of class so you know but I mean you [50:20] know I don't know how much how much [50:22] notice I can give but we we'll probably [50:24] announce the topic and then have you [50:25] guys who are interested jump on and have [50:27] the opportunity to uh do this so I can [50:29] answer your questions directly because I [50:30] really do like to do it I just don't get [50:32] as much chance as I can to interact back [50:34] with everybody so uh yeah yeah we [50:38] appreciate that I'm sure so actually see [50:42] the the Creator you know actually do [50:43] something like this face to face pretty [50:45] NE dude I love it I love do a large [50:48] thing yeah I love it I love I love doing [50:50] it and I and uh I love doing the videos [50:52] every week so um I'll uh I'll get to [50:56] work on doing that because it's almost [50:57] it's almost Friday we shoot him on [50:59] Friday so uh it's almost coming up so um [51:03] no uh no heads up yet on what it's gonna [51:05] be but I can tell you it's a pretty cool [51:06] one I already got it in my head cool so [51:09] we'll see you guys on Saturday with that [51:11] work out absolutely take care all right [51:13] guys thanks Jeff [51:17] app