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title: 'Jason Cammisa and Doug DeMuro Pick Their Ultimate Dream Cars'
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date: 2026-06-28
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# Jason Cammisa and Doug DeMuro Pick Their Ultimate Dream Cars

> Source: [Jason Cammisa and Doug DeMuro Pick Their Ultimate Dream Cars](https://youtube.com/watch?v=hjbjPzLe5vM)

## Summary

Veteran automotive journalists Doug DeMuro and Jason Cammisa engage in a candid, often humorous conversation about their ultimate dream cars. Jason reveals his ideal car does not exist, describing a rear-wheel-drive hot hatch with a high-revving engine, while Doug expresses a desire for a Ferrari F50 and commission-built Sultan of Brunei cars. The discussion expands into a critique of modern supercars and the automotive industry's failure to meet enthusiast demand for manual transmissions and analog driving experiences.

### Key Points

- **Jason's Non-Existent Dream Car** [02:40] — Jason wants a rear-wheel-drive hot hatch with a high-revving engine (Honda K24/K20 hybrid) and a manual transmission, but such a car does not exist.
- **Aston Martin V12 Vantage S** [06:48] — Jason's real-world dream car is the Aston Martin V12 Vantage S with a six-speed manual, praising its short gearing and sound.
- **Ferrari F50 as Doug's Dream** [12:20] — Doug's number one ultimate dream car is the Ferrari F50, which he considers the best driving car he has experienced.
- **Market Demand for Manuals** [19:58] — Both note the high resale value of manual, analog cars like the 911 ST and F50, indicating strong market demand for such vehicles.
- **Sultan of Brunei Cars** [23:40] — Doug's second dream is a commission car from the Sultan of Brunei, like the Ferrari 456 Venice wagon.
- **Critique of Modern Supercars** [23:14] — The conversation critiques modern supercars for lacking manual options and emotional engagement, calling them 'rich guy go fast cars'.
- **Importance of Short Gearing** [08:38] — Jason emphasizes the importance of short gearing for an engaging driving experience, allowing the engine to rev through the gears.

## Transcript

This is Doug Demiro and I'm here with
Jason Kamisa, automotive legend Jason
Kamisa, one of the alltime automotive
legends. He's up there in the Pantheon
with with Bob Lutz.
>> Oh, stop it. I'm not that old. And Henry
Ford, I I'm not that dead.
Okay, because he is such an automotive
legend, Jason Kamisa. We're going to
talk about our ultimate dream cars.
You've probably always wondered, "What
the hell does Jason Kamisa dream about?"
>> What does Jason Kamisa dream about? This
is a family show, right?
>> He's going to tell us. Let's do it.
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>> Okay. Ultimate dream cars. It's a short
list. I hate I hate everything. I hate
everything. And so,
>> you don't dream. You don't have dreams.
I They're not attainable.
>> Okay.
>> And dreams I'm very sort of German
logic, you know, oriented in this
respect. What's the point of dreaming?
>> If I can't have it, I should I should
aspiration don't have that. Um,
>> that is so German. My god.
>> The the thing is my dream car doesn't
exist. No one has ever made it.
>> Okay.
>> I want a hothatch
>> with rear wheel drive.
>> Okay.
>> With something under the hood that revs
to like eight and a half, 9,000 RPM.
Okay.
>> Um, that's got like amazing
uh and a manual obviously. It's
something that's amazing steering and
like great usability. So, think of like
if you could imagine a modern GTI minus
58 900 lb with a Honda K24, K20 hybrid
that makes 300 horsepower.
>> Cleo V6
>> that they're mid-enineed so that that
stops the usability. So the I just want
something that I can get in every day
and like throw a bunch of friends in
like it's got like a 15-in sub in the
back like a good stereo cuz that's
important. I'm that trash.
>> That's the automotive dream.
>> Yeah. Like 15 sub.
>> But like but just give me I would shut
up if there was like a rod shifter
converted Mark 7 GTI with a K2420 hybrid
in it. What is it like to be the level
of Volkswagen guy that you are? Like on
a day-to-day basis, do you wake up and
>> send me a better hat?
>> I just want a daily driver that I love.
>> Focus RS.
>> They were built in your home country,
Germany.
>> Kamisa is a nice German name, isn't it?
You feel German.
>> I am very logical and also sometimes I'm
sounding German.
>> So
I I'm speaking German so it's no
problem.
Yeah. such question.
>> You know, I worked for Porsche.
>> Yeah.
>> And I would go to Germany and meet the
Germans.
>> Yeah.
>> You were like, it was like, damn.
>> Damn. What? Like
>> like there that that there was no
country I've ever been in that is so
engineering like focused.
>> They're very organized. It's amazing.
>> You know how this is what hit me. You
know how you're walking in the
supermarket parking lot in America and
you walk and cars stop for you?
>> Yeah.
>> In Germany, the machine is king. You
stop for the cars. And I was cautioned
by many Germans. What are you doing?
>> This is don't walk.
>> Think they think about it in a logical
sense. This is a parking lot. This is
not a walkway in like on it's just a
very simple concept. It's there for the
cars. It's not there for you. You're
secondary.
>> You're lucky. You're lucky we were even
allow you in this thing.
>> Okay. So your ultimate dream car doesn't
exist. So what is
>> that does exist? the one that got away.
>> No, it's an acoustic non-event and it's
it's like driving a WRXSTI like
perfectly capable but like the engine
sounds like it's in a car somewhere else
and it's just not
>> I don't So what you were like oh I just
want a I just want a rear wheel drive
hatch that revs out an enormous amount
of things that are required.
>> It needs to sound good.
>> I first of all you're accusing me of
being a Volkswagen guy but all I want is
a Honda K20. How many times have I said
that? a Honda like a really good Honda
shifter.
>> I know that that V R six, V6 isn't
capable of what you're looking for.
>> I don't do V6s, but I definitely do VR6s
and I will go and find that effing.
Um, no, I like a Honda 4. I I just want
>> We're at a place in automotive
development where no one's having any
fun anymore. Like it's rare that you get
a car company that does something with
where the engineers are like and we have
done this. Well, no one was watching.
American car company compan companies at
the moment are having more fun than
anything else. I mean, everyone in
Salantis has a virtual mullet whether
you realize it or not. They're like,
"Yeah." Um, GM's having a lot of fun.
Ford's having a lot of fun. But the no
one makes no one in Europe is, which
means that no one makes a compact hatch
that's any fun. Like totally a new
like give me a new Prelude with like a
real motor. I'd be happy.
>> But you want rear wheel drive.
>> I would like rear wheel drive.
>> So you're never going to get that from
Honda.
>> Never going to get it from anyone.
>> Okay. All right. Your car doesn't exist.
But that is what you dream of.
>> But the one that got away like 300 350
>> 350 on 2900 lb for example. The car that
got away from me. The one that I
reviewed professionally that I can't
>> This is gonna be your ultimate dream
car. You're going to reveal it right
here right now.
>> You've heard it here first. Hold on.
Which camera is close? You've heard it
here for I can't do the announcer voice.
And look sultry at the tu.
>> It is a uh Aston Martin V12 Vantage S7
manual.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. I
>> of all of the things
>> it's the one that I can't stop. You
could have a Lincoln Continental Coach
door.
>> I thought you were going to say the V10
that those kids in Detroit built, which
is pretty cool.
>> Um,
>> yeah, I think it's the one that I want.
There's They popped out at 200,000
bucks. They're still 200,000 bucks.
>> They're expensive.
>> I think if I if I sold a whole bunch of
stuff, maybe I could do it,
>> but I can't bring myself
>> It does
>> to pay more in sales tax on a car than
I' than I've spent for most of my other
cars. It does solve like it literally
does answer like it's a hatch
>> with a rear kind like it doesn't it
doesn't do what you want but it gets you
in that realm.
>> What it does is give me So the reason
that I bought the 850 CSI is because I'm
allergic to long gears. Um I don't like
the idea of
like modern Lamborghinis for example.
Like I I showed up with a check to buy a
Gallardo six-speed and I was like this
is going to be great. I love that V10.
The car is just spectacularly gorgeous.
It's just modern tone tops, right? I
totally agree.
>> Um
>> I think it's amazing. It's way way
underrated.
>> 17 74 in first gear and 92 in second,
94, whatever it was. I don't go that
fast. I If I have that engine.
>> Now, can I give you Can I Yeah.
>> You don't have to take it to red line
and did you know that
>> you you have you
>> you can actually No. Why?
Jesus gave you 8,500 RPM to use when you
drive around. Are you like taking first
gear all got it?
>> I red line every every one of my cars
every time.
>> That would be a great experience for
your passengers. I bet
>> it who says I allow people in my car. I
said I want I want to be able to put
four people in the car. You just you
have dead bodies. They're they don't
complain. No. Um I look the thing that
we love about the sound of engines isn't
steady state. Even your you know
Countage hold it at 3,000 RPM
not it's the rise, right? And so a car
that's short geared allows you to get a
rise, a fall, a rise, a fall, a rise, a
fall. And so the that Gallardo was just
the vantage red line red line second
gear at like I think if you're at red
line is like 57 mph. If you push it like
to the limiter, you can just touch 60,
maybe even not. It's effectively geared
like a Miata, but it's a 500 plus
horsepower. Really nice sounding V12.
Not one of the best ever until you put
equal length long tube headers. So it
would have equal length long tube
headers. So it gets a a really high
pitch scream, short gears, one of the
prettiest cars ever made. Beautiful
interior. Beautiful. Consider just I
mean a a regular Vantage would fit into
your world. You don't like it?
>> Okay. The 4.3 I don't love the the
original Vantage. They made a lot of
changes between the 43 and 47 that go
far beyond just the you know this just
the displacement. Um but the 47 was kind
of slow. The four 43 was kind of slow.
The 47 really woke it up. They put much
better steering in the car, especially
there was a 2012 and a quarter, I think,
model year update. Much quicker
steering, blah blah blah blah blah. But
they made a bunch of changes that made
the car great. Still geared too long.
Crossplane V8s don't rev the way I love
them to. They're kind of lazy. Um,
>> yeah, that car did rev.
>> It was just kind of It needs a light
flywheel. It needs shorter gears.
>> It needs a damn V12 and a seven-speed,
>> right? Then the V12 six-speed is like
half the price. Nope. Geared long. Not
the same. Interesting.
>> It's that seven. It's a doglike
seven-speed
>> gorgeous. I at some point I will break
down.
>> Obviously what you're saying must be the
market agrees because uh not a lot of
Aston are holding.
>> No,
>> that one has.
>> They made 100. I mean they sold 100 in
the US.
>> Yeah, but Aston does a lot of limited
runs and that doesn't always guarantee.
>> That's true.
>> We made six of these because no one
would buy it,
>> right? I mean those you know what, you
know what I was that Vanquish Shooting
Break. Do you remember when they made
those Legato? that car had like a 900
sticker and they're trading all day long
for 350 and I don't think that I think
that 350 is is like give it a couple
more crazy.
>> Um so just just rarity is not enough for
Aston holding value as an Aston is very
rare and I think that the market must
must support your feelings.
>> I hope so. I hope they don't go crazy
cuz you know it's one of these that's
kind of like a 911R happened at the same
time and that was another one that I
thought this is magnificent but Porsche
moved on right and so the 911 ST so the
911 R became the the 911 GT3 Touring
which in some ways was better and then
the 911 ST is in just about every way
better other than the fact that I think
the 991 is prettier than the 992. Yeah.
>> So, that has been an ascent. Aston
hasn't come close to this car since and
never will.
>> And probably won't. It's not really part
of their focus area. They're doing SUVs.
>> Yeah. I at some point I'm going to have
to break down and sell a bunch of cars
and a kidney or two and and just do it.
>> Uh my number one ultimate dream car. I
want to preface this by saying I don't
really have any. Like I kind of feel
like I've done what I want to do and and
I I'm not actively trying to earn more
money and so like these aren't going to
happen. You know what I mean? Nice.
Well, like it is nice, but it's also
like there are people who get to a
certain level and then just want to
Yeah, I want more and more and I'm like
it's too much work. I'm good.
>> So, like I this isn't really something
that like it would be nice, I think, to
have like some other stuff, but I think
it's it's also nice at some point to cut
off and say, you know what, I'm happy,
>> right?
>> And so, my number one and kind of the
one that I really if I could have
anything, if I could have one more car
and had infinite money to do it, I'd get
an F50. I just think the F50 is the best
damn driving car. I think it is so cool.
I think it is light and athletic and
perky and like surprisingly engaging
despite the fact that it has this sort
of um flowy kind of look to it that
makes you think it's just sort of this
big overroought thing. I think it's
incredible. I just think it is like the
most incredible car to drive. That's my
that would be my number one. Having not
yet driven a McLaren, a McLaren F1 or a
Gordon Murray T50 or T33,
um I'm there with you in your
superlative on that. I don't It's looks,
promise, and experience. It doesn't
deliver in the right way, right? You
think it's going to be miserable? None.
Especially supercars, they're never
good. Like, they're just never good.
They're never cohesive. They're never
that I did. I
>> It looks like melty and big and just
overdone and you're just like
>> it's going to be unwieldy. It's like
driving like a Mercielago that's like
>> or or a XJ220 which came from the same
area. You're just like this is going to
suck. And a lot of those 90s supercars
did suck. I've driven XJ220. It's not
great. I've driven EB110. It's not like
it's not what you want. It's not what
you're hoping for. F50 feels modern car
good.
>> I the joke when I was driving it was the
passenger was uh I think he was the it
was like effectively a minder. They part
of the company that was selling it. He's
like, "I think you just wore out the
transmission cuz I just in cruising, we
were down in Monteray and it was like
one second, fourth, third, second,
first." Because first was like we were
doing 40 mph and it got to the point
where I can go from sixth to first to
sixth to first to sixth to first and he
wouldn't feel a single shift. And it's
not be it's not just because I'm that
good. It's because that is just that car
is a perfect example of how a great
dance partner is just a neverending
pleasure.
>> I didn't think it sounded that amazing
in the car.
>> No. Which is interesting because the
part of the story of that car is that
the Formula 1 derived the racing derived
V12,
>> but like we've said in the past, you
don't want a race car. The race cars
don't sound good.
>> And that car is despite that story is
actually not a race car. Like it doesn't
feel like a race car in a good way. Like
it feels smoother and more streetable.
>> Some weird guttural strange like it's
either clutch or timing gears or
something's going on behind you. It's
kind of some unpleasant noises which
just add to the experience that
>> the Courage GT is like that too. There's
this mechanical feel that you're like,
am I breaking something? But I feel like
some of the best cars have that.
>> How do you like this? The way the CGT
sounds inside the car.
>> It's not as good as the outside for
sure. And and the other funny thing
about Kur GT because I I I watched a Kur
GT versus LFA with Popes and I it and um
I really think that the LFA might sound
better. Um the Cur GT is obviously the
better drive. I mean, everyone who spent
time in the cars feels that way. What
are you going to tell me that dual that
single clutch trash is good? The Cur GT
is the greatest driving car regardless.
Okay.
>> I think the funny thing about courage
sound whenever I start up a cars and
coffee the kids all gather around
>> doesn't sound like anything at zero
nothing.
>> It's before car right it's before the
car companies figured out the startup
drama and cars that were loud 15 years
ago are quiet now like this happens to
us we had uh we did a ZR1 episode so we
had C4 ZR1 uh 56 and 7 5 6 whatever it
was 67 and 8 and you know C4 like they
were talking about the sound it's
And then C like you know the later cars
are getting progressively louder and
louder and then you start a C8 and it's
like
>> they figured out that's exactly what
they did. They figured out the start
drum and in fact I remember I worked at
a Ferrari dealer in 08 and people would
constantly be coming in getting tubes
installed and I assume those companies
don't do modern the cars are so loud now
that I imagine maybe they're still doing
that stuff but back then it was almost
like part of the purchase like okay
which exhaust do you want us to install
for you before you take delivery. You
know,
>> there's a weird thing that happens,
especially in European um car companies
where they're run by old people. And so,
like if when I when doing research on
some of the videos, like research on BMW
E31, the 850i, they did a whole there's
an entire section in the book that they
the sort of engineers wrote afterwards
about how that all the Italian stuff was
a nuisance and they did everything they
could to quiet the V12 down. And you
just want to grab him by the throat and
be like, are you stupid? It's a V12. I
think about the 8 series. One of the
things I think about is they were
probably thinking about the CL, right?
And they wanted to make a BMW a more
BMWish, but they were that was probably
their top right competitor, but they
were old. They were old.
>> They were old and boring. But who thinks
Hold on. BMW Z1. I just finished a
Revelations episode. You guys are
getting a sneak peek. Uh BMW Z1
Revelations. Same thing. They were like,
we don't want to make we don't want to
make a car that pummel the background.
This is Dr. Olish Bettz. So Dr. Bez who
did a Aston Martin afterwards, right? He
was he even he was like, "We don't want
a car that assaults the road with extra
horsepower. We want a car that's stable
so drivers will come fast in and fast
out." And they did. Their goal was to
make the quietest sports car on the
road.
>> Are you dumb?
>> Yeah, they don't.
>> Are you Did like are you drunk? What is
wrong? Isn't the whole point of these
cars the experience?
>> What a shame. That car could have been
so much cooler. Although I still think
it is cool and I've had it on various
like cars I want less. It is
surprisingly valuable. Uh you said you
have one other ultimate dream car.
>> Well, it was the one that doesn't exist
and then it was really the advantage and
the other one is 911 ST. I mean I just
hate to be that predictable.
>> Wow.
>> Because 190 Evo 2 thing.
>> Oh, it's up there. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry.
Look, now here's the thing is I don't
dream. I don't want If I had actual
cubic money, I mean, would I probably
have a McLaren F1? Probably. Would I
have a T50? Yeah. Um an Evo 2 is up
there. The reason I the reason it's not
didn't come to mind right away is when
you look at the 1906 16 valve lineage.
You have the early car which is has the
head was cast at Cossworth no catalytic
converter 185 horsepower and then you
get the the sort of smogged version
lower compression less aggressive cams
blah blah blah.
>> That's all it has is 185 horsepower
>> 185 for Europe 164 for the US 167 for
the US. Yeah. You didn't need a lot of
power. It only weighs 2,800 lb.
>> So my car I had a US car. I liked it.
Sold it. I got I drove a Euro car, loved
it. The the US car revved to 6,500 and
could barely make it there. It was all
kind of over after 5700 and it trudged
its way to 6,500. The Euro car slams
into its 7100 RPM limiter like it needs
another thousand, which the Evo got,
right? The Evo rev to 8
>> 7,800. But the price differential, like
I paid 16,000 for my car. Yeah. All
right. It's now worth multiples of that.
But at, you know, now my car is worth, I
don't know, 50, 60. I have no idea.
70,000 bucks, whatever it is. An EVO is
five times, six times the price. It's
not six times the experience. It's six
times the looks, but I don't own that
car for the just the looks. So, I Yes,
if I had the money, I would have an
maybe an early 190, but certainly an Evo
2
>> and a 911 ST.
>> An ST would be Well, I thought this was
dream car r, right? And if this if this
isn't dream car ru then like if I need
to buy a new car that's kind of amazing.
Nothing beats a 911 ST.
>> If you had to buy what new car right now
I guess costs no object. What really
lights your hair on fire?
>> Not much. Right. That's the problem.
>> But you got to speed for sure is up
there.
>> Okay.
>> If we're counting that as a new car
still.
>> Uh I love that car. It's crazy that they
sell for 700. Otherwise I probably would
have done it. But I don't think it's
worth that. But other than that, there's
not all that much. Truthfully,
>> this is I'm sorry, but there are plenty
of people in our industry who are like,
"This is a great time to be an
enthusiast." I find it interesting,
especially, this is one of the big
things I have about Ferrari. I find it
especially interesting that this is how
we feel, considering that there has
clearly been a demonstrated demand, not
just from internet losers, but from real
people with real money, that manual
transmission analog cars are desirable.
Carrera GTS at at three million. Uh
F-50s at 10. F40s at five. 911 STS are
trading in the secondary market for
double. And that's double already pretty
strong price point.
>> Double the that the ST's price point was
double what GT3 was a couple years ago.
>> Right. Right.
>> And so you're sitting there saying you
it's not like people are saying I want a
brown diesel wagon manual like the
enthusiasts tend to. These are real
people who are willing to spend the
money. Where is Ferrari with this car?
Where is Ferrari with a modern F40?
Where is Porsche? The reason Porsche
Porsche dumb has grown so much is
because they still make a manual.
>> They make cars for enthusiasts. And I
hate to admit that because I'm not
really into that whole Porsche culture,
but like if we're honest here, if you're
buying a new car, you're not going to
Ferrari. No,
>> you're not going to Lamborghini. These
are like those are have become and that
wasn't always the case. Ferrari was a
connoisseur brand that made enthusiast
cars for a long time. And I'm I'm fine
if they want to go and make the SUVs and
the automatics and the stuff that's
shouty, but you have people spending 10
million for F50s. If you did a 300 unit
production run of a manual something,
you could probably price it at 10
million. And you can't tell me, you
can't tell me you it's it costs three,
however much that is, 300 million, three
billion dollars to develop that car.
>> I have been saying this to car company
executives and product planners for
years who get like belligerently in your
face as a journalist because they're
like, "You're an enthusiast. You don't
understand this." And my canned response
is, "If your car was that good, why why
are your old cars worth so much?" Right?
If the current M3 was that great, and
the M the current M3 is quite a good
car, actually, why is everything old
worth so much, right? And then you say,
tell me about the price difference when
you go to the Hagerty price guide or any
anywhere and just look at the price
difference and it'll say plus 80% for
manual, plus 140% for manual.
>> Right? These aren't just these aren't
just random idiots. People are paying
actual money, new car money or more.
>> Look at Gordon Murray's car. They they
offered was it a dual clutch or a single
clutch automated manual on T50
>> and one two people two people chose it.
>> I didn't even know that that was a
possible.
>> So he said forget it. Take it off the
offering. One person cancelled his
order. The other one said yeah thank
you. Save me from a mistake anyway.
>> Huh?
>> It the market has spoken. There is the
question is if I need to get from here
to across town, what's the most
efficient way? Right? I'll take a taxi.
I'll take an Uber. I'll take a Whimo.
You can drive. I'll drive. Whatever it
is.
>> What's the most fun way? It's sure as
poop isn't going to be getting into a
bus. I'm going to dance my way across
town and Emanuel's a dance.
>> Porsche almost lost it, too. 911 GT3.
They went PDK. I I worked for Porsche at
that time and I remember a lot of
meetings where it was like we're trying
to push people into PDK. This is our
future. Obviously, it was more they made
more money. But once the automakers
started to realize you didn't
necessarily make more money with the
automatic,
>> you actually could do this.
>> I and I don't understand why Ferrari, a
public company, doesn't pursue that.
>> They have their head so far up. It
>> makes no sense though. certain
orififices, they just I hate to say it
because 296 is a wonderful car.
>> Wonderful car.
>> Um I I actually like that V6 better than
I like any of their V8s, but the it's
off the shopping list. A because the way
it looks, but B because it is so
expensive and C no manual.
>> I have this thing that I call all these
modern supercars that I call them rich
guy go fast cars.
>> We're just like McLaren's like rich guy
wants to go fast. Boom. He's in a
McLaren. Buy a McLaren Tamaria. like
they're they're pretty a lot of the cars
are pretty competent, but like
>> there's there's there's no need to know
anything or
>> competency isn't enjoyment, right?
>> Going fast isn't the fun part. You want
to go fast going get a 747.
>> And with that in mind, my number two
>> Oh,
>> ultimate dream car. A lot of the Sultan
of Brunai cars.
>> That's not just your ultimate dream car.
>> There's I'll take whatever they got.
>> You know what though? There's that
green. Yes. Do you know that guy?
>> Yes. I just met him at a car show. What
you'd like personally know him? I'm
interested in making an offer on that
car.
>> Oh, I don't know if you'd sell it. I can
I can
>> Let's talk.
>> Okay, here's the deal. I will connect
you if I get to drive it.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> I think you'll probably be underwhelmed.
You ever driven a 456?
>> Don't care. It's a green wagon stick
shift V12 Ferrari.
>> Oh, I That's very difficult sound effect
to do.
>> There it is.
>> There it is. Um, I I think the
>> the sound guy always laughs when I say
>> I think the Sultan cars are the coolest
things in the world.
>> He commissioned all these cars. He did a
Bentley SUV called the Dominator, the
Bentley Buccaneer, which was a twodoor
long Bentley coupe. Like somebody who's
like it was beautiful car W140 station
wagon. Seven of those.
>> I just saw a black one on Instagram the
other day. Cool.
>> They were all the W140 wagons were
apparently sulten cars. Uh, apparently
there was a V12 version as well. They
all are right-hand drive, which is
annoying, but I would
really get into a Sultan car.
>> I really want that 456 Venice, which I
think isn't a Sultan car. The Sultan
commissioned a run of those, but I think
he only got a few and then some and then
some didn't go to Brunai.
>> We talked about
>> I don't know if that one is
>> that one was an automatic, too.
>> That one's an auto.
>> Was it was a Mercedes automatic that he
has now been converted back to
>> He should have done a lefthand drive
conversion while he was at it.
>> It's still It's right hand drive.
>> Yeah.
>> I kind of think that's hot.
>> I just don't like driving right-hand
drive. I would convert it. You'll learn
>> salt and stuff. That 45 fix.
>> That is That car is I haven't seen it in
person, but it's local to me.
>> I know it's in the Bay.
>> He Yeah, they he showed up in another
car and was I was talking to him and I
friend of a mutual friend in introduc,
hey,
>> there's this really really rich guy
named T. He's got huge money and I want
a commission. And the commission is just
like just give me a day. Just give me a
day with that thing.
>> Oh man.
>> Maybe. Oh yeah, that is a that is a very
cool car.
>> Uh that's it. That's all you dream
about?
>> I mean, I do dream about other stuff. I
kind of dream about like some big
American boat.
>> Really?
>> Like I I kind of wouldn't mind
>> 70s Cadillac.
>> 70s Cadillac or like a or like a boat
tail riv like some of the Riviera stuff
is gorgeous. Even the front wheel is so
I I would totally rock a Toronto. Can
you imagine the burnouts you can do with
a 400 500 cubic inch V8 and frontwheel
drive?
>> Yeah. But
>> like I said, probably I kind of want
>> I there like I want a GMC Cyclone really
badly.
>> I don't.
>> Yeah, that the Cyclone was on my list of
under 30 cars actually. Under 30,000
>> that we Yeah, we both did a list of
under 30,000. Mine's on that list, too.
So, we will find
>> You want a Cyclone?
>> I I typhoon
>> lust after the Cyclone. Not the Typhoon
here. And if we do that episode, I'm I'm
ruining it. It's It's 8 in shorter
though. Hold on. It was in my notes. or
it's only eight inches longer than Oh, a
Kuji Corolla. Oh,
>> it's They're tiny. They're itty bitty
and they're black and they're like
chunky and they're just great looking
and they are so Have you driven one?
>> Yeah.
>> Stupid fast. Like dumb fast and silent.
Like they make no noise and like it's
just
>> I wonder what would have happened if
they had a decent transmission.
>> I mean it's literally everything. I
don't do trucks. I don't do American. I
don't do V6s. I don't do turbos. I don't
do all drives. I don't do automatics. I
don't care. But we would I want it.
Yeah. Uh, okay. Those are that's what we
dream about. We don't have big dreams.
We should have done a different video.
Uh,
thanks for watching Jason Kamisa, living
legend. Goodbye everyone.
>> Bye.