[0:27] aware of what we're doing here today I
[0:29] am it's it's an honor to be here hello
[0:30] everyone we are live today in the cars
[0:34] and bids
[0:35] Studio to talk about Tracy Chapman and
[0:40] fast car
[0:42] Sam did a song our friend Nick had never
[0:45] heard of until about a week ago week ago
[0:48] okay no we're going to discuss
[0:49] cars
[0:51] woo Sam has a car or two Kenan has a car
[0:55] we know Kenan this is Sam Sam was at the
[0:58] racetrack the other day we posted a
[0:59] video and now he's here in the studio
[1:01] and we're going to talk about cars yeah
[1:03] it's an honor to be here I've been
[1:04] around a little bit around coup videos
[1:06] we did a couple videos right I've been
[1:08] lingering in the background for a few
[1:10] years now so now it's just on on display
[1:13] Sam uh one interesting life event for
[1:16] Sam he was recently rejected for tickets
[1:18] to the
[1:19] quail I'll note that as was Kennon and
[1:23] everybody we knew and everybody every
[1:25] single person we knew I wasn't rejected
[1:26] now they were also rejected a week late
[1:28] because their Google form said it would
[1:29] have a week ago I emailed them they're
[1:31] like oh just ignore it right Doug wasn't
[1:33] rejected but he also doesn't remember if
[1:35] he submitted the okay I checked I
[1:37] checked what happened if you go on the
[1:38] quail website it says like check click
[1:41] here to be like kept informed of events
[1:45] and so I that was a Google form also and
[1:47] you told me it was a Google form so I
[1:48] just typed in my info so you just got
[1:50] the newsletter no ticket get the
[1:52] newsletter marketing so I did it I
[1:54] actually did that a second time
[1:57] yesterday and I was like wait a minute
[1:58] I've already done this and so I'm going
[2:00] to get multiple newsletters but I did
[2:01] not get enter the lottery for tickets
[2:04] but next year when they they'll tell me
[2:05] the tickets are coming and then I'll get
[2:07] them yeah like us this year yeah I've
[2:10] been what four years in a row and this
[2:12] is my first time not getting selected
[2:14] it's all right very upset we'll go to
[2:18] the Partridge nice I knew you going to
[2:22] pick some
[2:23] bird okay this is this is off to a poor
[2:26] start Sam why don't you tell us about
[2:28] the uh okay we have a bu of really cool
[2:30] cars ending today thankfully we have a
[2:32] lot and several of them are right in
[2:33] Sam's wheelhouse yeah one of one of them
[2:36] is this 991 Turbo S Coupe which we talk
[2:40] about all the time as being like one of
[2:41] the most competent all round cars yeah
[2:44] you know it's just blisteringly fast
[2:47] very reliable comfortable which for Sam
[2:50] and I is very much something we're
[2:51] interested in and just like it's all the
[2:53] more performance car you'd ever need
[2:55] it's just it's an insane car and this
[2:57] one seems quite nice too um you know a
[3:00] very desirable color combination now
[3:02] you're aware who's offering this for
[3:04] sale oh yeah a Westside collector car
[3:06] storage what's your play uh what is my
[3:09] Canon yours is a 525 uo oh yeah good
[3:12] call it's 525 uo yeah oh um which is how
[3:16] I felt when I owned my first BMW 525 I
[3:18] had a lot of money to just kept paying
[3:20] and just kept paying and paying to take
[3:22] care of a beautiful car I think if if I
[3:25] could daily Drive anything it would be a
[3:26] Turbo S but I think if you're going to
[3:28] daily a 911 you either want a base
[3:30] Carrera or a Turbo S it's my new Theory
[3:33] I'm a kind of a GT3 daily kind of guy
[3:35] yeah that's exactly what you're like
[3:38] yeah a career GT daily kind of guy I'm
[3:40] not me and um you know you're not
[3:43] hardcore enough but uh you know I get my
[3:46] jt3 every morning I get my bucket seats
[3:49] I'm a real race car driver Bouncing
[3:51] Around The Way work I'm a real race car
[3:53] driver then I get on Bluetooth it's like
[3:55] in a real race car got get are hello
[3:58] right yeah right power window G um okay
[4:02] so that's G to sell what let's before we
[4:05] get into today's auctions though which
[4:06] is this is one of them should we discuss
[4:07] some of the cars that we have on the
[4:08] site right now that are cool yeah so
[4:11] we've got we've got quite a few this car
[4:12] is sitting here in the shop now we can
[4:15] actively Ferrari F430 Spider with a
[4:17] stick conversion oh and 45,000 mil this
[4:21] is the 430 spider that I personally
[4:22] would buy this particular one this is
[4:25] what you want to do with these cuz we've
[4:26] sold manual converted cars we had a 599
[4:28] that stands out in my mind it had like
[4:30] less than a thousand miles some
[4:31] conversion you're never going to drive
[4:33] it because every mile you put on it you
[4:35] directly affects the value in a negative
[4:38] way whereas you buy one that has the
[4:39] miles you want to drive it and so by
[4:41] changing the transmission it adds to the
[4:43] driving experience you're going to use
[4:44] it makes a lot of sense for a car like
[4:46] this that is precisely correct oh what a
[4:49] good car a lot of red Interiors today
[4:51] very red very red yeah definitely a uh a
[4:54] really red interior this car is so cool
[4:57] though 45,000 mil this car in love with
[4:59] the 430 it only happened recently too I
[5:01] just like the more I saw them the more I
[5:04] was like wow a
[5:05] beautiful that gated manual don't you
[5:08] want that yes the fact that you're not
[5:10] bidding on this car is very annoying to
[5:11] me well I'm
[5:14] busy I have to say yeah click clocking
[5:16] in a Ferrari is great the thing I found
[5:17] that was interesting because I I drove
[5:18] it briefly was that uh it just the revs
[5:22] drop off very quickly um like I know the
[5:25] C you're used to the cage GT obviously
[5:26] which it just like the revs just drop
[5:28] the second you push the clutch p in the
[5:30] 430 is very similar like that too with
[5:32] the manual they drop really fast you got
[5:33] to shift it very quickly have you ever
[5:35] driven K's car oh yeah the the Dual Mass
[5:37] fly I have on my car is very heavy so
[5:40] when you put in the The Rev in his car
[5:43] is Wild is it similar to the E46 73 yeah
[5:46] it the revs drop approximately as
[5:48] quickly as they accelerate so like
[5:51] you're flored on a freeway on wrap you
[5:53] got plenty of time to rev match put the
[5:55] clutch
[5:56] in now a lot of people will put a
[5:58] lightweight flywheel on E m5s but the
[6:00] reason it's so heavy is for refinement
[6:02] so it doesn't chatter make noise and
[6:04] like and that's the when people put the
[6:06] lightweights on they just it's just like
[6:08] kind of it's really annoying really
[6:10] annoying so like that for a reasonable
[6:12] car and it's a comfortable car it's you
[6:14] know it's not a career
[6:16] [Music]
[6:17] GT this 430 is the coolest this 430
[6:20] really cool uh and I love the color
[6:22] combination too gasio Silverstone one of
[6:23] my favorite colors on the 430 I think if
[6:26] you could have any color on a 430 though
[6:27] what is it to France blue
[6:30] T FR blue blue swatters or uh Lon blue
[6:33] those are my favorite BL blue yeah
[6:35] they're very they are different between
[6:37] the three of them California California
[6:40] is nice now we're talking it's a good
[6:41] color too there a lot of great colors on
[6:43] the 430 oh every color yellow yeah Sam
[6:46] tell us why you you have not purchased
[6:47] an F430 yet I don't know I love my I
[6:50] drive a Boxster spider which has
[6:51] probably been seen but uh I love that
[6:54] car so much and I can't justify having a
[6:56] second convertible manual like sports
[7:00] car but I have been thinking like I've
[7:02] F1 has grown on me a lot and I'm like
[7:04] sort of into the like single clutch feel
[7:06] so if I could have Boxster spider and a
[7:08] 430 spider F1 I'm like into that it's a
[7:11] controversial take but I to I agree and
[7:13] I think you do as well there's something
[7:15] about it you pull the paddle and it's
[7:16] like when you're on it's a brutal shift
[7:18] like it's it's engaging and you still
[7:20] have to work with the transmission you
[7:21] have to blip it on downshifts it's kind
[7:22] of like fun and Charming it's not great
[7:24] but it is like it's mechanical I made
[7:26] this point like two years ago when I
[7:28] reviewed that 612 we sold and
[7:29] everybody's like oh you're Shilling for
[7:31] cars and bids because I'm like oh I kind
[7:32] of like F1 and now I got to review that
[7:34] Maserati coupe has that's a really
[7:37] that's a tough F1 very the same I don't
[7:40] think it's the same as 65 I think it's
[7:41] the same as the 355 okay but no it's
[7:43] better than the the 355 is F1 is right
[7:46] what was the first attempt yikes it's
[7:49] like the first attempt at computers it
[7:52] took up a whole up a whole
[7:54] building yeah I even that's exactly like
[7:58] exactly you know 55 gigantic car um
[8:02] Spruce Goose right but on the topic of
[8:06] uh of Sam there actually another car
[8:07] that's selling this week that i' like to
[8:09] go and that's of course the Boxster
[8:10] spider we got a boxer spider we have we
[8:12] have one on Wheel he clicked into the
[8:14] the interior photos that's why it was
[8:16] like that he had already clicked into do
[8:17] it he was pulling up all the all the T
[8:20] before the show started like you know I
[8:21] think I'll maybe take a look at this
[8:23] keness with this car I have taken a look
[8:25] at it Sam what are your thoughts on this
[8:26] box spider as an owner um I so generally
[8:28] I don't like guards red but on the boxer
[8:31] spider I think it's kind of fun and uh I
[8:34] disagree with black wheels on all cars
[8:36] so that's you know a personal preference
[8:38] but um interesting bumper sticker huh
[8:41] and it's got a sticker and that got the
[8:43] side sticker huh it had the side um but
[8:46] I don't know I there's some interesting
[8:48] mods to this car that I guess are the
[8:50] mods that people do to a boxer spider if
[8:53] they mod modify them um with those ipd
[8:56] PL intake plenum and the GT3 whatever
[9:00] but uh I don't know if that is effective
[9:03] but the intake noise on that car is
[9:05] pretty good from Factory and I think if
[9:07] that airbox increases that sound that
[9:10] would be pretty cool that would be a mod
[9:11] that I would actually consider doing um
[9:14] the Kon has become obsessed with the
[9:17] boxer spider it's become kind of a
[9:18] problem Kon would you like to share
[9:21] would you like to share your your
[9:22] obsession with I have covered it so many
[9:25] times but I'll do it again I think that
[9:27] I think that it's a perfect balance of
[9:28] everything you want I more want you to
[9:30] talk about like the
[9:33] situation what why I haven't bought one
[9:35] well yeah and also like you know like
[9:38] it's a that's a you know you want to get
[9:40] a boxer spider you know
[9:43] yeah yeah what of it I just love the
[9:46] boxar spider dearly but I just you know
[9:48] it's a it's an expensive
[9:51] car uh yeah right Ken's been throwing
[9:54] around like expensive cars like what
[9:56] else did he throw around 500e well no
[9:58] that was yeah there's a different
[10:00] application between the two ad last week
[10:02] we covered that I think right he wanted
[10:04] to get a Fiat 500e yeah and he told me
[10:06] just to drive the M5 which has not been
[10:08] great for it I mean it's getting like 11
[10:09] miles with a gallon because it doesn't
[10:10] really get warm so he complained because
[10:13] he used to live too far away that he had
[10:14] to drive too far now he lives too close
[10:16] he's complaining that his car doesn't
[10:17] warm up I live too close but not enough
[10:19] like I medium I very close to the office
[10:21] I can kind of like walk to work but I
[10:23] lived like too far from you like I can't
[10:25] I have to drive to get to tennis when
[10:28] when we go to play tennis
[10:30] and so like I know it's I know it's a I
[10:32] know these are deep first world problems
[10:34] but like so this car's got 60,000 miles
[10:38] on it 53 54,000 which you really never
[10:40] see him with high mileage I don't know
[10:42] why but when I was shopping for mine
[10:44] there were three white ones in Southern
[10:46] California for sale all with like 10 to
[10:49] 14,000 miles and I think I remember
[10:51] Farah actually mentioning a few years
[10:53] ago that like every one of these for
[10:55] sale has like 14,000 it's a little bit
[10:56] of a rougher ride so it's not and it's a
[10:59] car that unlike you most people probably
[11:00] aren't dailying I don't daily it either
[11:03] I attempted to when I I thought I would
[11:06] um I have
[11:07] 203,000 now you've driven a lot yeah
[11:09] like 10,000 miles in a year and I
[11:12] haven't been daily that's basically
[11:13] that's pretty much numbers Prett much
[11:15] daily use um these rarely come up this
[11:18] is a 981 yeah yes yeah it's interesting
[11:21] generally for sale they never come up
[11:22] like to find a comp for this probably
[11:24] wasn't easy cuz like they're not around
[11:26] they just don't trans ESP miles they're
[11:28] only offered for a single model year
[11:30] here um I think was it 860 or something
[11:33] like that if to the United States um
[11:35] like they're just not common so and it
[11:37] and it man is it hard to find them
[11:39] without black wheels it's a yeah but you
[11:41] can paint them Kevin will paint them
[11:42] yeah that's yeah I know we have the
[11:43] resources this car with silver Wheels
[11:45] would be look great yeah yeah red is
[11:47] cool plus you got the Florida wild
[11:48] flowers specialty license plate Ken any
[11:51] thoughts on that nope no none Florida's
[11:54] got great good PL look at that look at
[11:57] that wild flower kenon wild beautiful y
[12:02] uh okay what else you get for us kenon
[12:04] all right so uh the next car uh is one
[12:07] that you really love and that's the new
[12:10] WRX now do you want to discuss why you
[12:11] love this I just have fallen in love
[12:13] with the new WRX I like not I like don't
[12:15] not think about getting one I now have
[12:19] completely come around on how it looks I
[12:21] think it looks great white is not
[12:23] necessarily my favorite color I love the
[12:25] orange I love the blue I like the white
[12:26] I think it looks good um I love the
[12:29] powert train I think it's fantastic I am
[12:31] just like obsessed with the new WRX I
[12:33] have become truly and honestly obsessed
[12:35] with I see him on the street I'm like
[12:36] this guy so lucky I know there was one
[12:38] at cars in coffee last week like parked
[12:40] next to a mercy Lago and you went right
[12:41] up to it I just think it's so good it's
[12:45] just such a good car it's also still
[12:46] offered with a stick which this one is
[12:48] and it's just a great powertrain it's
[12:50] like the the perfect amount of like
[12:53] potency and and right in the middle of
[12:55] the Rev range great response you don't
[12:56] have to ring it out for good power it's
[12:58] got a lot of power it feels good I like
[13:00] love this car I really do and I think it
[13:02] looks good I don't know I've completely
[13:04] come around on how it looks the one we
[13:06] saw cars in coffee had all the clading
[13:07] paint the clading painted looks Terri
[13:09] looked odd the cladding painted looks
[13:11] terrible what I've discovered is the
[13:13] everybody gave it crap for having this
[13:14] unpainted cladding when it first came
[13:15] out and now we saw one that had painted
[13:17] cladding wasn't better and we've learned
[13:19] why they didn't paint the CL probably
[13:21] tried it both ways and we're like ah y
[13:23] we can't do that but you can't tell me
[13:25] this doesn't look a little like a stado
[13:27] when I first saw this car I was off
[13:29] looks I have come around a little bit
[13:31] looks like little bit also it's become
[13:32] clear that this is kind of the end I
[13:34] don't know if you guys have followed
[13:35] this but there's no STI they're not
[13:36] going to do one and like Subaru doesn't
[13:38] screw with these cars anymore they just
[13:40] don't care they're selling cross trcks
[13:42] and and you know Outbacks and that kind
[13:44] of thing and they don't want to screw
[13:45] around with wrex's they're like done
[13:47] with that crowd it's like a it's a crowd
[13:49] of people they'd rather just not deal
[13:50] with like they don't want them in their
[13:52] dealerships they don't want them walking
[13:54] around they don't want them modding
[13:56] their cars vaping yeah vaping big in the
[13:59] service lounge they don't need to go
[14:00] through that okay we got this 991
[14:03] closing all right yeah so this 991 is
[14:04] closing watch this for a little B and
[14:06] then we'll do some questions but yeah uh
[14:08] how many miles 477 it's been driven the
[14:10] point twos are still big money um even
[14:12] the0 ones are they came down pretty
[14:14] quick to like half MSRP which was like
[14:16] 115 something like that I could be a
[14:19] little high on that but um the point tws
[14:22] bring big money probably 140 is a good
[14:25] 130 wow even with 47,000 miles yeah I
[14:28] mean from what I see cuz I only see the
[14:30] ones that are like listed for sale so I
[14:32] don't know what they're really
[14:33] transacting for but um yeah I would kill
[14:37] to daily one of these so yeah I've been
[14:39] looking right and this is an S so how
[14:41] much power does this have 550 550 550 PK
[14:46] it's relatively comfortable it's a dream
[14:48] car might as well be 700 they feel so
[14:50] much faster than with with four-wheel
[14:52] drive and pdk they are fast fast car I
[14:55] was blown away by that cab that I drove
[14:56] that we had on the site and man it just
[14:58] just it just does everything and yeah
[15:00] you lay into it it's like oh my God this
[15:02] is fast this as fast as a VAR on to 60
[15:05] it can do it all day long like it's just
[15:07] like it's a very impressive car
[15:09] allaround impressive car pdk do they
[15:11] still have launch control in these oh
[15:12] yeah pdk and launch control is like and
[15:14] four-wheel drive start is like a wild
[15:16] Wild Thing 1175 the bids the bids are
[15:19] even when the 97 Turbo S came out that
[15:22] car had crazy 0 to 60 numbers probably
[15:25] because of pdk and launch control and
[15:27] all that but they've only continue to
[15:29] improve it and I've been in one of those
[15:31] for a launch it's hard to imagine this
[15:33] is that much faster but it really is
[15:35] this is a great da what would be really
[15:37] great would be a 0.1 nons because those
[15:40] are
[15:41] now what are those 100 a little more
[15:44] than that I I could be a little high on
[15:47] that but I haven't seen any sell for
[15:48] less than a 100 but still like it's kind
[15:50] of in that range
[15:52] right yeah there's 120 for a 14 there's
[15:56] a 13 model bids to 75 there's a 13 that
[15:59] went up to 80 that sold after at 80 90
[16:02] he's clicking like a oh that's a point
[16:04] too turbo though like someone turbo not
[16:06] not an S yeah about but this felt like
[16:09] the generation where everyone got turbo
[16:11] SES you rarely see turbos yeah right and
[16:15] and if you could afford a a turbo you
[16:17] probably could get to a Turbo S like I
[16:19] look at that 15 look at that 15 that was
[16:21] 16,000 mies sold for 102 that was a good
[16:24] deal 100 grand for that to drive that
[16:25] and it's not really going to lose much
[16:27] value from here you got to figure
[16:28] interesting that's a really good deal
[16:30] it's a cool car I should have bought
[16:31] that yeah you should have you should
[16:33] have a lot of these came with people
[16:35] optioned adaptive cruise too just the
[16:37] dream yeah but not many not many some
[16:41] 992s seem to have a lot more people who
[16:44] ticked that box for some reason well
[16:46] it's becoming more of a luxury car and
[16:47] people are starting to understand the
[16:48] benefit of that where only you and me
[16:50] understood it for the last five years
[16:51] right I once made a video about why I
[16:52] love it so much nobody watched it nobody
[16:54] cared meanwhile people are driving
[16:55] around using their feet right and and
[16:59] texting and texting yeah if you're going
[17:01] to text let the computer drive for you
[17:02] this the bidding is still going by the
[17:04] way it's at 1220 Ken what's coming up
[17:06] next wow okay so let's see so the next
[17:09] car after that one uh we have is an ISF
[17:12] which
[17:15] is stock wheels I'll never forget seeing
[17:18] these are stock wheels I don't know they
[17:19] have a Lexus badge in the those are some
[17:21] Lexus stock wheel but I don't think
[17:22] they're ISF they may look like are those
[17:24] GSF stock wheels go down kenin what does
[17:26] it say see doesn't say but I don't think
[17:29] those are stock wheel especially not for
[17:30] an 11 they're could have been they could
[17:33] have also been options um but anyway
[17:35] Andrew Fountain would tell me the the
[17:36] truth yes I I've always really liked
[17:39] these cars they sound awesome they
[17:41] they're and it combines like combines
[17:43] what I like V8 sedan but with
[17:46] reliability uh which is very appealing
[17:48] and it's kept the values on these cars
[17:50] pretty solid they they haven't really
[17:52] dropped much lower than I thought they
[17:54] initially would I remember seeing this
[17:55] car new too at car shows and the like
[17:57] the sales people said it's the M3 killer
[17:59] and I was like yeah right but you know
[18:01] M3s found ways to kill themselves as
[18:03] they lunch their engines ain't that the
[18:04] truth every generation ding around the
[18:07] other cool thing about this car is it
[18:08] was subtle you had to know it has that
[18:10] little thing behind the front wheel you
[18:11] know and it has the hood bulge the tips
[18:13] and the exhaust AR aren't the I believe
[18:16] memory serves me like the bottom ones
[18:18] aren't real or something like that yeah
[18:21] something of that effect and those
[18:22] exhaust tips a lot of style but yeah but
[18:25] yeah but I adore these cars is that a 5
[18:27] L V8
[18:29] 5 L na8 5 L na V8 are they still using
[18:33] that same motor in the LC is that the
[18:35] same motor can't imagine they developed
[18:37] a new yeah that's probably true it's
[18:39] like the SL65 engine right just been
[18:42] around for a long time right those quad
[18:45] pipes those bizarre quad pipes what were
[18:47] they doing so many people hated that I
[18:49] don't know then Ferrari was like that
[18:50] looks good and then yeah the C had the
[18:53] Cali had it cuz this came out I feel
[18:54] like 08 and the Cali came out 09 is that
[18:57] how it went think that's right 10 memory
[18:59] Sayes me or 10 what does the is500 have
[19:02] do that has stacked exhaust tips too oh
[19:04] I don't know does it why did they not
[19:06] call that the ISF I guess they didn't
[19:07] want to put like the suspension and body
[19:09] work into it the problem with the is500
[19:11] is as as much as I love this car for
[19:12] being subtle the problem with the is500
[19:14] is too subtle it only has a badge you
[19:16] cannot tell yeah you they are all F
[19:18] Sports now and they all have the body
[19:20] kit right right Lex released one F car
[19:23] and they were like we're going to make F
[19:24] Sport a thing now that we've now that
[19:25] we've really gotten this brand to work
[19:27] for us and and boy do what are you
[19:29] talking about nobody's heard of this and
[19:32] boy do that yeah you can get an rxf
[19:33] sport no problem um okay Ken let me do
[19:37] some questions go go to some questions
[19:39] Kenan pick up one that you really want
[19:41] all right I need a second
[19:43] here um let's see why would ferari not
[19:47] offer a manual on the sp3 Daytona Andrew
[19:49] asks do they hate money feror seems to
[19:52] they they I think that there is a
[19:53] clientele if Ferrari were to offer a
[19:55] gated manual transmission on some car
[19:57] and I felt that it should have been the
[19:58] 296 they should have offered that car
[20:00] with a manual had they offered that it
[20:01] would sold off instantly everybody would
[20:03] have bought it like people Porsche has
[20:05] proven that people want manual
[20:06] transmissions it's just Ferrari has you
[20:09] know their technology is so dependent on
[20:11] how the transmission interacts with the
[20:13] the drivetrain and admittedly on the sp3
[20:15] Dayton it's so much power and it's so
[20:16] crazy already shifting gears yourself
[20:19] might be a lot with that car um but I
[20:22] don't understand why fori doesn't offer
[20:24] manual cars like Porsche does with these
[20:25] gt3s I I truly think it's because when
[20:28] the 57 when the 550 came out Ferrari
[20:30] after it came out Ferrari wanted
[20:33] feedback from their clients and so they
[20:35] went to their clients who bought those
[20:36] cars and asked what would you change
[20:37] about it and everybody wanted the F1
[20:39] transmission and I think Ferrari just
[20:41] stuck with that mentality of okay that's
[20:42] what people want the sales numbers were
[20:44] then low on manuals when they offered
[20:45] the manual on the 575 they were low on
[20:47] the F430 and but I'll give them some
[20:49] feedback like here's some feedback for
[20:51] Ferrari you're not a client anymore they
[20:53] they they like I this car I could buy a
[20:55] Ferrari I bought one of those here's
[20:57] some feedback for Ferrari uh 911 STS are
[21:01] selling for 200 Grand over sticker on
[21:03] the you know I mean 911rs were selling
[21:05] for
[21:06] $800,000 back when they were new and
[21:08] that was just a 911 with a manual
[21:09] transmission can you imagine how much
[21:11] over sticker manual transmission new
[21:13] Ferrari would go for and they're like
[21:15] you have to you have to develop the the
[21:17] transmission it takes a while okay do
[21:20] they care like don't all new Ferraris
[21:22] sell out anyway sf9 is are 300 under
[21:25] sticker and people are still waiting two
[21:26] years if there was a stick sf90 might be
[21:28] able to sell one that this is this is
[21:31] something for Ferrari here's a here's a
[21:33] tip if you made the sf90 with a stick
[21:36] maybe you could sell
[21:38] one I think they're selling them I think
[21:40] everyone's so desperate to get in line
[21:42] that you used to have to buy like a Cali
[21:44] and take like a 40 Grand hit on it yeah
[21:46] but give it time now you got to take
[21:47] here Problem by dumping by dumping these
[21:49] SF 9s down people's throats not
[21:52] everybody's going to be able to qualify
[21:53] for the next level of car and there's
[21:54] going to they're going to sour their own
[21:56] situation people are going to be like I
[21:58] water an sf90 you owe me because I took
[22:00] a $300,000 bath on this trash car that
[22:03] nobody wants you owe me I'm not wrong
[22:05] you owe me an allocation for something
[22:07] really special then they're going to
[22:08] have to develop more special cars and
[22:10] they're going to start becoming less
[22:11] special like McLaren or everything
[22:12] special if only they would put a stick
[22:15] in the sf90 someone would have interest
[22:17] in actually wanting one and maybe that
[22:19] would preserve their values a little bit
[22:21] on the used Market it certainly
[22:23] would we are in the first time in my
[22:25] life to answer your question don't they
[22:26] all sell for the first time in my life
[22:28] no I mean I think SF 9s are hard to sell
[22:31] interesting don't you yeah I'm sure
[22:33] Romas too if what we're seeing on the
[22:35] used Market is happening there's no way
[22:37] they have people lined up on the new
[22:38] market to just buy them I think Roma is
[22:40] an easier sale to just a a sheer price
[22:43] difference I think people are more
[22:44] although I have seen I think you showed
[22:46] me that one that was crazily optioned up
[22:47] to like
[22:48] $450,000 or something nuts I didn't even
[22:51] think was possible on that car well
[22:52] there are some old people who do that
[22:54] kind of thing because they don't want
[22:55] like a like a Mid Engine like you know I
[22:57] mean I get that I get that but yeah but
[22:59] I agree the sf9 but you look at used
[23:00] values on Romans you look at used values
[23:02] on Pinos and on SF 90s they're not as
[23:04] hot as they once were no Ferrari could
[23:08] make some money throwing a stick in some
[23:09] of these cars SF 9s there are hundreds
[23:11] and hundreds available if I wanted an
[23:13] sf90 today I could start calling dealers
[23:15] and getting them all over the place
[23:17] they're also letting like eag take all
[23:19] the old cars and convert them I don't
[23:21] get that and ason made that money have
[23:23] them send the car back charge an
[23:24] exorbitant amount of money they already
[23:26] do it for the classy k thing yeah they
[23:28] charged Aston charged like 40 grand for
[23:30] that it wa and it couldn't have cost
[23:32] that but I think it was 40 plus shipping
[23:33] yeah Ferrari could be that was years ago
[23:36] too right why not make the money
[23:37] yourself I just don't understand it's a
[23:38] public company like they're they're
[23:40] leaving money on the table does not
[23:41] matter it does not make sense to me when
[23:43] you're looking at porsa and they come up
[23:44] with these cars Porsche is falling all
[23:46] over themselves to create manual
[23:48] versions of cars that don't need special
[23:50] manual versions because just to make
[23:52] money right it's not about the speed
[23:53] it's like it's about the interaction
[23:55] with the car and Ferrari is still
[23:57] chasing speed and Grand gred I know
[23:58] there's a lot of pressure Ferrari's
[23:59] Heritage of always building the fastest
[24:01] they always want to have the fastest but
[24:03] like to mear interesting you speed when
[24:07] I think about what Ferrari's Heritage is
[24:09] it's like
[24:11] money yeah but this was always been the
[24:13] driving force behind that at least in my
[24:15] lifetime that's been the driving force
[24:17] right money far's like done everything
[24:19] they could to extract money out of
[24:20] people they would used to charge two
[24:22] grand for heated seats I mean come on
[24:24] four grand for carplay yeah I love that
[24:26] I'm talking about the model in not the
[24:28] options but yeah I'm talking about the
[24:29] break the ethos of the people who are
[24:31] running the company money to answer
[24:34] Andrew's question it does seem that they
[24:35] hate
[24:36] money no they don't I mean I think an
[24:39] sp3 manual would have been insane
[24:40] because it was a short production one
[24:41] they were going to sell them all out
[24:42] anyway it's no problem I think it's
[24:43] crazy to me that they don't offer some
[24:45] stick special edition cars considering
[24:48] how much more I truly think people would
[24:49] pay a million bucks for a stick 296 I I
[24:51] truly believe if they made a 300 unit
[24:53] production run that would be a million
[24:54] dollar car and people are like well it
[24:56] cost money to develop does it cost $300
[24:59] million I I suspect no probably not
[25:04] that's like what an actual car cost to
[25:06] develop yes um all right kenon give us
[25:10] another
[25:11] question um here's a here's one from
[25:13] Michael maau uh question to Doug would
[25:15] you ever cons what car would you
[25:16] consider as your E-class allterrain
[25:17] replacement Ken do you want to tell us
[25:19] about our our BMW 5 series news of the
[25:22] day no I was the news today Ken gave up
[25:25] they announced a wagon when when Ken
[25:27] when the F10 came out Ken was like I'm
[25:29] out yeah it was the last BMW Ken hates
[25:31] new BMWs and they're all pretty good
[25:33] they're all pretty good true I love most
[25:35] of them I I really like the I really
[25:37] like the current generation M3 okay
[25:39] today BMW has officially announced kenon
[25:43] the wagon version of the new Five series
[25:45] I'm going to text it to
[25:47] you and you can pull it up it's called
[25:50] The Five series uh
[25:53] touring uh thank you I I guess we'll go
[25:56] yeah put click on that from C driver
[25:57] great
[25:59] publication okay lovely wagon shape oh
[26:02] that is a great looking car that is a
[26:03] great looking car so they won't announce
[26:06] what's coming to the US but my view is
[26:08] the M5 touring is coming to the states
[26:09] there almost no question in my mind and
[26:11] it looks like a plugin version is going
[26:12] to come that's cool and a plugin would
[26:14] be great like an i560 okay so the
[26:17] problem is they're they supposedly they
[26:19] not bringing the I5 to the US just a
[26:21] plugin regular I don't understand the
[26:23] logic behind that I don't know being RS6
[26:26] has sold incredibly well well E63 wagon
[26:29] touring is going to come interesting
[26:31] it'll plug in but not the not the fully
[26:33] maybe the full electric maybe not I
[26:34] don't know oh that'd be sool you once
[26:36] told me that if they do bring an M5
[26:37] touring to the US you'll buy one is that
[26:39] still no I said that about the M3
[26:40] touring and I do believe that about the
[26:42] M3 touring I think we're play back the
[26:45] tape play back the tape you told me on
[26:48] nck that you I said that about the M3
[26:50] tring and I stand by it if they brought
[26:51] that buck tooth thing to the US I would
[26:54] buy it that
[26:56] beaver which yeah but well how
[27:00] interesting that'll be very cool might
[27:02] come to the US they'd be silly not no no
[27:03] it'll definitely come to the US they're
[27:04] just they they didn't say that in the
[27:06] press release so Car and Driver can't
[27:07] post it because they got to stay on
[27:08] BMW's good side but it's coming to the
[27:10] US and it's going to be great wait can
[27:11] you just leave us you leave behind the
[27:13] Five series wagon you have nothing else
[27:15] to say I we sort of covered it I think
[27:17] we sort of covered it once it's here
[27:18] great you don't have any interest in the
[27:21] Five series wagon you're over BMW after
[27:24] give me a model year uh I
[27:28] the F10 was an accurate observation I
[27:30] what was that 11 I believe that's right
[27:32] when the f105 came out yeah that was
[27:34] kind of the I think the 16 was the final
[27:37] year production for the but when did it
[27:38] it was like 11 that it started I think
[27:40] it was 18 I don't remember exactly but
[27:42] yeah that was kind of the last oh you
[27:44] cared about the also that was yeah and
[27:46] that was the last because that was the
[27:47] last M5 you get with pedal meanwhile Sam
[27:50] and I love the I love the current
[27:51] generation I love the M2 as well like I
[27:53] love all those cars currently love the
[27:55] i7 Alpa xp7 Alpa X7 that's been the Hot
[28:00] Topic of debate it just looks so good i7
[28:03] looks so expensive God I love the i7
[28:06] okay this question that up there from CJ
[28:08] is the greatest question we've ever been
[28:10] asked Sam read it and then choose oh wow
[28:12] we were just talking about the jukar
[28:14] actually that's funny um choose between
[28:16] the following for a onecar garage Nissan
[28:19] jukar onear garage lm2 wouldn't leave
[28:23] the garage SLR Sterling
[28:26] Moss
[28:28] somehow F50 seems to make like
[28:30] reasonable sense this is a really tough
[28:32] one because those are four well okay
[28:34] those are one great car then three trash
[28:37] cars that I would
[28:39] love what was the the jukar was the GTR
[28:43] motor obviously and the Juke which is a
[28:45] crazy move but they actually built
[28:47] customer versions they only Built a few
[28:49] hundred though or I mean they only Built
[28:50] a few they only Built a few they built
[28:51] like 12 they built what they could sell
[28:53] yeah they built like 12 but they priced
[28:55] them at like 675 or something
[28:58] who was buying that no one they they
[29:00] built like 11 and then one of them came
[29:01] up for sale and went to auction and got
[29:03] to like 275 or something oh 275 pull
[29:06] that up pull up K screen this is an
[29:07] incredible
[29:09] automobile man but it's an incredibly
[29:12] difficult choice between those four I'd
[29:13] throw the uh signate V8 in there well
[29:16] that's probably what I'd take that
[29:18] choice was not proferred To Us by CJ a
[29:20] one car garage by the way spoke to
[29:22] George Evans yesterday and he told me LM
[29:25] o2s are pretty stout he said they don't
[29:27] really break all that often really yeah
[29:29] huh he said he's got two of them
[29:30] personally but this is really yeah he's
[29:32] quietly got quite the collection yeah he
[29:34] does hidden in Ohio need to just retire
[29:37] okay so it was LMO to Sterling Moss SLR
[29:40] Kennon pull that up for the audience who
[29:41] unfortunately does not know about that
[29:43] car did those ever trade
[29:45] hands never seen one nobody wants one so
[29:49] I think they just all live in
[29:50] Switzerland they all live in swizerland
[29:52] that is so true 75 billion they were all
[29:56] sold to people who like Mercedes who
[29:57] like owed Mercedes Benz a favor yep SP2
[30:00] before the SP2 that's exactly what it is
[30:03] though you know it's interesting because
[30:04] in the last couple years the SP2 came
[30:07] out the Elva came out and Aston did
[30:10] something yeah like a V12
[30:13] Vantage roof this was like OG yeah yeah
[30:19] what does it say just 75 Sterling M
[30:21] supercars were built one is up I can't
[30:23] believe they got 75 crazy people to buy
[30:25] these things crazy I know you ever seen
[30:27] one no yes you have didn't you see one
[30:30] at Monterey week uh two years ago or
[30:33] three years ago I'm pretty confident you
[30:35] sent us a picture of one I may have mon
[30:37] didn't count right it's hard to remember
[30:39] at car week what you see and what you
[30:40] don't there's one in like the the prince
[30:42] of Monaco's car collection it's a museum
[30:44] in Monaco you can go in and see it um
[30:47] man that's tough though down between
[30:49] just one certainly not the
[30:51] lemu as cool as the lau is it's
[30:54] certainly not the Nissan for me well you
[30:56] genuinely want one so well what do you
[30:58] mean it's not the Nissan for you what
[31:00] okay you're going to daily a sterling
[31:01] Moss I think I can't F50 seems like the
[31:04] most reasonable there's that guy in
[31:06] Louisiana who did it who did you saw
[31:08] that thing came up yeah driving to
[31:10] Dallas every other day or something
[31:12] there was a guy in Louisiana who had an
[31:14] F50 named Jim
[31:15] Spiro there was another guy with an F50
[31:18] named Tom Spiro not something to think
[31:20] about just just let it let it fester in
[31:22] your mind okay but uh think the F50 is
[31:26] uh the clutch is a lot easier to live
[31:28] with than you might think I don't want
[31:29] to think I'm not I'm K you're not gonna
[31:31] take the F50 here I'm not gonna let you
[31:33] you got to choose between and you're not
[31:34] going to take the Sterling I'm taking
[31:35] the F50 CJ gave me the F50 I'm taking
[31:37] get you can't drive you can't daily
[31:39] can't drive race I can't drive a like
[31:41] the Juke R is a purpose it's a built
[31:43] race car isn't it like no it just had
[31:45] the regular GTR Road car it's probably
[31:47] the most practical don't like niss that
[31:48] much I can't do that I don't like Nissan
[31:50] that much
[31:52] Sterling like hide a lot of Nissan
[31:54] enthusiasts here are going to get mad at
[31:56] you plus I'm SI I I can't get something
[31:58] that doesn't have a manual so that rolls
[31:59] out the Sterling moss and I just
[32:01] couldn't do a car that doesn't have no
[32:02] windshield and so so the F50 or the lm2
[32:06] or like 50 has no roof W yes it does oh
[32:09] you drive it roofed it did switch back
[32:12] I've done it I've taken it off before
[32:14] I've taken one off in f i 5 hours at the
[32:16] Ferrari dealer to do that no took us 25
[32:19] minutes really the dealer charges you
[32:20] the deer charges you like an hour or two
[32:22] I think it's I think it was two hours of
[32:24] Labor yeah it does not take two hours to
[32:26] do I've done that before it's now Grant
[32:28] I had a little help it is hard to get it
[32:30] on hard to get the top off but I've done
[32:33] it Sam what would you pick
[32:35] here the more I think about it the LMU
[32:38] actually does make sense if George Evans
[32:40] is correct I know stradman bought one in
[32:42] like North Carolina was going to drive
[32:43] it home and he only made it to
[32:45] Geor oh so uh I don't know how right he
[32:49] is about that for daily driving cuz no
[32:51] one's ever done it right although didn't
[32:53] someone interesting own one of these new
[32:55] like Oprah or no uh um what's her name
[32:59] who lives in Switzerland um what's her
[33:02] name who lives on the on the in
[33:03] Switzerland the singer the famous singer
[33:05] not Diana Ross but Tina Turner Tina
[33:07] Turner Tina Turner was then she put a
[33:10] she put a Mercedes engine in it and I
[33:12] that sounds like lore but I've I've
[33:14] talked to some people who I like trust
[33:15] who are like I've seen the car I've laid
[33:17] hands on the car she has an lmo2 with a
[33:19] Mercedes engine that's so cool wow so
[33:22] all right probably answer is Denise on
[33:23] juk car well the LMU is probably the
[33:25] answer but
[33:27] cool yeah I'm taking the F50 damn none
[33:29] of us picked the roofless car well it's
[33:31] been raining for a week in San
[33:33] Diego so uh going back to that9 sold for
[33:37] 12555 for that Turbo S Coupe that's a
[33:40] that does seem like a good buy that is a
[33:41] buy at 125 car lot of car 0 to 60 and
[33:44] what two and a half yeah man reliable
[33:48] just usable wonderful car Comfort
[33:50] congratulations to that person well done
[33:52] um vity the ISF also sold 30 grand for
[33:55] that car which that also feels was like
[33:57] a really good buy for 30 grand what's
[33:59] the mileage on this what's the mileage
[34:00] this was 100,000 miles but it's like
[34:02] reliable they don't they're not as
[34:04] affected by Miles as you think an 11 M3
[34:06] with 100 is like a throwaway car almost
[34:08] people like scared but that's the thing
[34:10] about these isfs the used Market values
[34:12] reliability far greater than performance
[34:15] and that sort of thing and so these isfs
[34:16] have retained their value unbelievably
[34:18] well they sell for the same when we
[34:19] launched this like five years ago they
[34:20] haven't Chang their value at all it's
[34:22] amazing it's like Miatas it's like
[34:24] Miatas but not NDS right
[34:27] but yeah we've sold quite a few ISF this
[34:30] was like a late one too but yeah I think
[34:32] 12 was the last year I think but they're
[34:35] right there they're all kind of in and
[34:36] around that for the most part they're
[34:38] kind of around around 30 to 40 yeah yeah
[34:41] really low mileage ones will still bring
[34:42] real money but um like you'd have to
[34:45] have a high mileage 08 to crack under
[34:48] 20 right yeah that's a pretty good buy
[34:50] and if you have a blue one I'm still
[34:52] waiting to review a blue one yeah that
[34:54] one in the bottom right is nice that
[34:56] remains my dream yeah that car came to
[34:57] us but it wasn't anywhere near here
[34:59] otherwise I would have done it ult look
[35:01] like a Connecticut plate I wasn't going
[35:03] to fly to Connecticut to review an ISF
[35:05] it looks like Connecticut cool though it
[35:07] may be cool though it may be wow kenin
[35:10] pull up another car that we want to
[35:11] discuss oh the new WR so some cars that
[35:13] are cars that are coming up so we have
[35:15] that uh that three manual Ferrari 360 so
[35:18] also a manual conversion I believe is
[35:21] everybody just swapping these now yeah I
[35:23] think if you can like why wouldn't yeah
[35:24] why wouldn't you I mean it just makes it
[35:26] so much more now the 360 with a manual
[35:28] they made quite a few of them yeah it's
[35:30] weird to swap a 360 cuz half of 360s
[35:32] were sticks is my understanding cuz I
[35:34] owned one but I think it's just it's so
[35:36] much more pleasant to drive than that
[35:37] early F1 system and so a lot of people
[35:39] swap them um and it makes sense wow
[35:43] front plate is this in
[35:45] Canada uh this car wow doing it yeah
[35:49] good for him compliant compliant yeah
[35:52] what's the difference in value between
[35:55] Factory F1 versus stick um for a 360
[35:59] f1's got to be like
[36:01] 45 no I think they're that it's not that
[36:04] much cuz stick 360s are findable by the
[36:06] way you don't like these wheels I kind
[36:07] of like them you don't like them they're
[36:09] not my favorite go back to the exterior
[36:10] Ken zoom out showing the wheel directly
[36:13] come on so you don't like them up close
[36:15] you like them generally I think it looks
[36:16] good the 360 was under wheeled o true
[36:19] now this guy the stock wheels are
[36:21] included with this one which side shot
[36:23] go to that side shot I kind of like that
[36:26] H it looks like a more modern Ferrari
[36:28] wheel to be totally honest just put F430
[36:31] wheels on it if you're going to do no
[36:32] that's what everybody does it looks
[36:34] wrong well this looks wrong too no no
[36:37] that looks that looks okay I'm into that
[36:40] the car comes with stock wheels I put
[36:41] the stock wheel personally or is it auro
[36:44] it's auro yeah I believe it
[36:47] isio alloy which is also blish yeah it's
[36:50] another very good color in the 360 and I
[36:52] think this car has daytonas if memory
[36:54] service me as well I can't believe all
[36:55] these stick swaps how funny this is just
[36:57] like the thing now yeah well it's like
[36:59] you know the the companies that are
[37:00] doing this really hit on a good Market
[37:02] this it's a really good idea it just
[37:04] makes the car so much more enjoyable and
[37:05] you can't get them you can't get new
[37:07] ones in the market cly value so here's a
[37:09] question transmiss 599 sticks they made
[37:12] four they all cost $4 billion
[37:15] yes I know like at something but now
[37:19] they presumably that car will now become
[37:22] like deeply swapped right does that
[37:25] impact the value of the factory ones
[37:27] must I mean at some point it's like I
[37:29] think Factory is Factory and like that's
[37:31] just I guess but it's at some point it's
[37:33] like Okay Okay the reason people are
[37:35] buying like the 599s that are collectibl
[37:37] the sa aarto the GTO and well nobody's
[37:40] going to convert a coupe to an sa a
[37:43] perta so that's you're safe that's not
[37:44] going to have exactly that's safe so
[37:46] like the only way to differentiate like
[37:48] power move I think the people like the
[37:49] manual Factory manual ones are just
[37:51] collector's items they I don't think
[37:53] anybody's driving driv the problem I
[37:54] generally agree but like let's how let's
[37:57] say they made $4,599 just for sake of
[38:00] argument and there are like 11 sticks
[38:02] but if like 2,800 get converted it's
[38:05] like okay oh you got one of the 11 cool
[38:07] so do 2,800 other dudes I don't think I
[38:09] don't think 2800 people are going to
[38:11] spend the 60 Grand whatever it cost to
[38:13] do the over time how many 430s have been
[38:16] converted there are a lot and then you
[38:18] go to Cars and Coffee and it's like oh a
[38:19] stick 430 but you don't know I don't
[38:21] know that one you would never know right
[38:23] that one yeah the one of the one of the
[38:25] giveaways is that they most of the
[38:27] companies that do these conversions
[38:29] can't put the Ferrari logo on the shift
[38:31] pattern and so like if it's not there
[38:33] that's a pretty easy sign the sh pedals
[38:35] on the steering wheel and the holes
[38:37] where the shift pedals were if someone
[38:38] someone wants to do it right they
[38:39] replace the trim all together but I'll
[38:41] bet that cost a fortune if you can get
[38:42] it at all get it at all doing that uh
[38:44] and nobody's that pedantic although I
[38:46] would be I would be too but like okay I
[38:49] I hate to say this but as a person who's
[38:51] like in kind of like interested in these
[38:53] cars like I would for 800 grand for a
[38:56] stick 5 99 or 1200 for a conversion
[38:58] that's like a no- Brandon to me I don't
[39:00] care about the collectibility of it
[39:01] right what about super America those are
[39:03] like 200 grand for and a million like
[39:07] it's just stupid and mercy is the same
[39:08] thing I mean the concept that a a
[39:10] regular Mercy is a 200 car and that a
[39:11] stick Mercy is like a 600 car it's like
[39:14] laughable oh it's ridiculous that one LP
[39:16] 640 that manual that right recently sold
[39:19] for like a million5 it's ridiculous
[39:21] toally you get car most people wouldn't
[39:24] be able to see the difference on 200
[39:27] yeah 650 was a good result on that let's
[39:30] start swapping these things now the
[39:31] mercy is protected because there's not a
[39:33] swap available right now not yet but you
[39:35] got it's coming it's coming because the
[39:37] interest in Mercy's is deeply deeply
[39:39] growing oh yeah nice he Zooms in on yeah
[39:42] there it is the could see that from a
[39:45] mile away tall ship yeah um oh that's
[39:49] cool yeah that's a fantast fantastic
[39:52] silver wheels on there Ken give us
[39:53] another question all right let's have
[39:55] another look at the question how does he
[39:56] go side to side on his computer screen
[39:58] we'll never know he's a wizard he's a
[40:00] totally wizard totally totally wizard
[40:04] kenon give us a good
[40:05] one Kenan um let's
[40:10] see what's the best all so Derek ask
[40:13] what's the best all round alternative to
[40:15] used
[40:16] 911
[40:19] Cayman that's my opinion too there's
[40:22] nothing done next question it's so true
[40:24] though it's so true like and uh one one
[40:27] of our video editors Nick is thinking
[40:29] about uh getting rid of his Mustang and
[40:30] potentially getting a Cayman I think
[40:32] that's a wonderful move Cayman are just
[40:34] they're just great just great sports
[40:35] cars 987 came in is just wonderful car
[40:38] they're all 981s they're not even all
[40:40] that expensive anymore 981s have come
[40:41] down to a pretty affordable level wait I
[40:43] want to do the one just below that but
[40:44] can you go to 981s really quick
[40:47] mhm what are what are like regular early
[40:49] 981 selling
[40:51] for so what ises that 14 sell for 50
[40:54] that's a pdk
[40:57] GTS is a wow that's got pcbs pccb that's
[41:00] that that's not a good example because
[41:01] it's a pretty that's pretty highly
[41:03] optioned yeah give me like a like an
[41:04] early early
[41:06] 981 which was what like 13 what is that
[41:09] 30 what is that white
[41:11] one Canon is clicking too quick he too
[41:15] quick this what this one's pretty base
[41:16] but 14 with 72,000 miles we sold it for
[41:19] 29 that's a bargain that's what 981 sell
[41:22] for so that I mean 987s are are only a
[41:25] couple grand less than that just get a
[41:26] 981 you'd have to get pdk yeah that's a
[41:29] lot of car that's a lot of car still a
[41:31] lot of car a lot more modern than all
[41:33] the trims I like all of them even the
[41:34] bass like isn't that bad the Bas is a
[41:36] car also you just toss around and have a
[41:39] great time with it's just like fun it's
[41:41] a fun Simple Car GTS is probably the
[41:44] sweet spot and so yeah it seems like
[41:46] perhaps it seems like a boring answer to
[41:48] answer a Porsche question with a Porsche
[41:50] answer but I think that it like it is a
[41:52] genuine like it depends on what you want
[41:53] to do oh by the way Boxster to yeah
[41:56] thank you thank you I like a good
[41:57] convertible yeah like good pan if you
[42:01] want aord that's our answer Porsches
[42:04] okay however much Porsche you can afford
[42:06] however much Porsche you can get this
[42:07] question Justin what car brand needs you
[42:09] as a consultant for a day and and what
[42:11] would you tell them to do okay the
[42:12] answer is Nissan here's what I would
[42:13] tell them to do okay the Nissan extera
[42:17] uh was made from 1990 from 2000 until
[42:20] 2012 or 15 that Nissan canceled the
[42:23] exterior the day before the off-road SUV
[42:26] Enthusiast Market took off the Toyota
[42:29] 4Runner TRD Pro has been out for I don't
[42:32] know 25 years in its current form and
[42:34] it's still over sticker five over still
[42:36] to this day these things are over the um
[42:40] the Sequoia TRD Pro the GW wagon the
[42:43] Raptor the etc etc etc all of these cars
[42:46] are radically popular these off-road
[42:48] SUVs and Nissan bailed on the segment
[42:50] the day before it took off and it's been
[42:52] 10 years and they're still kind of
[42:53] taking like a wait and see approach to
[42:55] see whether this will will really remain
[42:58] popular so of all the problems of all
[43:00] car brands you the new Hyundai Santa Fe
[43:02] has come out and looks like a crazy
[43:05] insane off-roader the new Lexus GX has
[43:08] come out it looks like a like the world
[43:10] has the kide they made it look like an
[43:12] off-roader and it out sells its rival
[43:14] it's its its stablemate the Palisade
[43:17] vastly just because it looks cooler and
[43:20] meanwhile Nissan is still sitting there
[43:21] like you
[43:23] know I'm not sure should we bring back
[43:26] the extera no let's do another
[43:29] generation of the
[43:32] Maxima it's not like they're killing it
[43:34] in any segment really but this was their
[43:36] segment it's like how Volkswagen owned
[43:39] the van segment for years and now the
[43:40] Sprinter lives there in Volkswagen's
[43:42] like you
[43:43] know I'm not sure probably Sprinter sell
[43:46] for like
[43:47] $400,000 it's insane think about it how
[43:51] is Nissan not back in this world with
[43:52] the exteror am I wrong about this yes
[43:55] what
[43:56] cuz who's buying it the no one cares
[43:59] Toyota sold 400,000 4Runners last year
[44:02] they're too established with that cuz
[44:03] that's the one you'd get even if they
[44:04] came out with a new
[44:05] one okay but the Raptor at one one point
[44:08] the Raptor was a new car and then
[44:11] everybody bought it they were going to
[44:13] cancel the gag Chevy came in 10 years
[44:15] later with the ZR2 and nobody bought
[44:17] that cuz they made it they they half
[44:19] asked it like everything GM does that's
[44:21] true if Nissan showed up with a good
[44:24] extera that like was just as good or
[44:26] better than the Forerunner and looked
[44:28] cool it would have cred because they did
[44:30] it in the past yeah they invented the
[44:33] segment and then bailed on it just as it
[44:35] was heating up it's
[44:36] insane I mean I wouldn't be a buyer so
[44:40] that's a tough one for me to how am I
[44:42] wrong okay fine what is your
[44:43] answer
[44:45] uh what's a misled
[44:48] company I can't believe you're not I'm
[44:51] still thinking about your Nissan answer
[44:53] do you have an answer for that um BMW
[44:56] bring back the manual transmission yeah
[44:57] yeah that's true man Empire I I feel
[45:01] that Aston is a very misled company um I
[45:04] think Aston well I mean they nobody
[45:06] they're they're making these I think the
[45:08] the 707 I think was a really smart
[45:11] choice to make it it finally made that
[45:12] car desirable because we used to go um
[45:15] to Orange County and we would see the
[45:16] Asen do is just full of dbxs like oh
[45:19] yeah you could not sell the cars the 707
[45:21] comes out makes it really desirable
[45:23] because it's insane and so like I think
[45:25] Aston I think Aston is I I just think
[45:28] they they have some things they could
[45:29] probably change um some things they
[45:32] could probably change I'm over here
[45:34] saying bring back the extera and make it
[45:36] good and you're like oh Aston has some
[45:37] things they could probably change yeah I
[45:39] don't know I don't know how to fix it
[45:41] this is the thing a lot of people have
[45:42] tried with Aston Martin to fix it and
[45:44] can't it's a desirable brand that when
[45:47] people have they don't actually people
[45:49] buy the company actually turn out they
[45:50] don't okay here's an Aston Martin Theory
[45:52] I want you to Noodle with mentally Aston
[45:55] is a design desirable brand among people
[45:57] who can't afford
[45:59] Aston but among people who can it's not
[46:02] all that desirable because you'd rather
[46:04] just end up with a Ferrari yeah or a
[46:06] Porsche honestly or people who have
[46:08] moved to the US from England right they
[46:10] always they all have asked okay think
[46:12] about that really I think Jaguar is the
[46:13] same way you hear about people who can't
[46:15] afford a new jag jag but like people who
[46:18] are in that space they don't want
[46:19] anything to do with that trash I don't
[46:21] know if anyone's really Desiring a Jag
[46:23] anymore though you're right that days
[46:24] those days are kind of does still have
[46:26] that like brand but I think Aston is
[46:28] especially excitable to people who are
[46:31] not buying an ason and they kind of keep
[46:35] the brand there's some interest there
[46:37] but not at
[46:38] $375,000 which is somehow what every new
[46:40] Aston costs right every one of them I
[46:43] think the uh DBS superer the final ones
[46:46] are like half a m maybe they should
[46:48] Maserati themselves and sell a $68,000 c
[46:52] that worked out so well for
[46:53] Maserati those $59 9 leases on gibl hey
[46:57] man those cars are now 12gs and Kenan is
[47:00] thinking about one instead of a 500e
[47:02] because it would probably be cheaper to
[47:03] own prob might be but no I'm not
[47:06] thinking about that um okay Kenan give
[47:10] us another
[47:12] question uh okay so Doug what is the
[47:15] status of selling your G wagon because
[47:16] you mentioned that you were going to get
[47:17] rid of it and uh my G wagon I've decided
[47:19] to sell my yellow Defender
[47:21] Instead This was a lot of back and forth
[47:24] I'm not going to sell it to sell my
[47:26] yellow Defender I was going to sell the
[47:27] G wagon I I I only wanted to sell the G
[47:29] wagon because I wanted to like sell some
[47:31] cars like get some stuff out of my life
[47:33] you are in a pairing down face yeah and
[47:35] the yellow Defender is is the same
[47:36] amount of stuff like physically is the
[47:38] same size and so it's going in Step but
[47:40] he just gets bored you thought about the
[47:42] Ford G and then you drove you're like
[47:43] never mind and then you were like you
[47:46] you were thinking about that car and
[47:47] then you're like good riddens you just
[47:49] go even care GT yeah I care GT briefly
[47:52] it's like when the market was down the
[47:54] stock market went back up a little wor
[47:56] it's not going anywhere um no I'm not
[47:59] selling the G but I am selling my yellow
[48:00] Defender which will be I'm selling it at
[48:02] 3 weeks I'm just waiting for photos and
[48:05] I'm also selling my Land Cruiser 2013
[48:07] Land Cruiser which Kenan is going to be
[48:09] bidding on no I am not it's ready to
[48:11] start a family he needs a nice family
[48:13] car yeah as a single 28-year-old
[48:16] definitely ready to start a family this
[48:18] car you're not going to be blizzard much
[48:20] money in that car maintaining that last
[48:21] year as I did my M5 those were all
[48:23] elective everything I did was elective
[48:27] everything was elected okay other than
[48:28] the alternator failed two times I am on
[48:30] my third alternator in a year but who
[48:33] isn't not me auto part stores are too um
[48:38] okay here's what happened with the Land
[48:39] Cruiser it's a perfect car I think you
[48:42] should consider it there's a little
[48:43] scrape on the front corner from what my
[48:45] from my nanny she didn't disclose that
[48:47] she did it but I believe that she did
[48:49] because she took it out one day and it
[48:50] came back with a scrape on the corner
[48:53] other than that it's a great great car
[48:56] here's what happened with the Land
[48:57] Cruiser okay and I'm I got a video
[48:59] coming about this but I discovered that
[49:02] there are some f flaws with that motor
[49:05] and so I fixed them all and in
[49:08] discovering them I discovered there's
[49:09] actually more flaws than I thought
[49:11] considering what everybody says about
[49:12] the Land Cruiser right even we talked it
[49:14] up for such a long time right really
[49:18] come through for you right right and so
[49:21] now I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna sell it it's
[49:22] got all that stuff done and Kenan is a
[49:25] buyer
[49:26] don't think so but you're replacing
[49:29] it yeah I'm going to get a sequoia which
[49:31] is great camo seats camo cladding Kenan
[49:36] you got any thoughts on camo seats you
[49:37] wish you had camo seats in your car nope
[49:40] actively would avoid that I do have
[49:42] ostrich leather seets that's that's
[49:43] right Sam well remembered man maybe I
[49:45] should get some exotic seats he has
[49:47] ostrich oh like text yeah it's what it's
[49:50] for not real a then the sport seats yeah
[49:53] not maybe it is no it's not definitely
[49:55] not Ken give us Mass produce BMW Ken
[49:58] give us a question for Sam yeah all
[50:00] right Sam what is your idea of the best
[50:02] reliable daily for under 40 Grand I know
[50:04] the anything I know the answer that
[50:06] Sam's going to say what Cayenne Turbo
[50:09] yeah well you're going to say either
[50:10] cayen or paname of some kind Sam is such
[50:12] a Porsche guy I'm So Into cayenne and P
[50:14] paname right now they are so cool Sam
[50:16] wants to get himself a Ed Cayenne I do
[50:19] 95.2 turbo would be such a good daily
[50:22] driver so few had adaptive Crews though
[50:25] what they pull it up does adaptive
[50:26] cruise Go full speed in that car I don't
[50:28] know it was like 16 so probably not
[50:33] although maybe some of them did back
[50:34] then yeah it was just a little jerky but
[50:36] my 12 Benz did High turbo even the that
[50:38] new body style that one bid to 72 which
[50:42] seems like a pretty good result to me
[50:43] but uh those have come 16 for a turbo
[50:47] the problem is kenon doesn't know
[50:48] $150,000,000 a lot of miles a pre it
[50:51] also underscores like put miles on the
[50:53] thing it's like K look put the minimum
[50:55] year at baller put the minimum year at
[50:57] what 14 15 uh
[51:01] 15 okay wow pretty good filters
[51:05] here thanks so look at that 66 for like
[51:09] a new body style one yeah that's a 19
[51:12] that's pretty good for some reason those
[51:14] the newer gen doesn't seem as desirable
[51:17] 40 was the question here 40 Grand was
[51:19] the right 40 Grand right right oh yeah
[51:20] we're at 80 now what are they sold for
[51:22] 48 can the 40 guys stretch to 48 so
[51:25] maybe it's a 0.1 but I do think a 0.1
[51:28] Cayenne Turbo 958 was the question
[51:31] specifically asking about like four-door
[51:32] four seat practi I was asking for fun
[51:35] fun reliable daily under 40 Grand
[51:37] preferably a V8 and that's Manda who
[51:39] asked that okay so Sam says a Ken which
[51:42] has a uh which does have a V8s right
[51:44] yeah or the GTS which now are less than
[51:46] 20 grand the correct answer of course is
[51:48] the second gen Cadillac
[51:50] CTSV bizarre answer 556 horsepower you
[51:54] want drag race I'll drag graer Cayenne
[51:57] Turbo you have all that plastic
[51:59] inside yeah it's PL no don't not a CPE I
[52:03] prefer not a coup personally myself but
[52:05] you prefer the coue no I prefer not a
[52:07] coupe I prefer sedan or a wagon but wag
[52:10] tip wag sell for this yeah wow 33 yeah
[52:14] tip one sell for 33 that's pretty good
[52:17] yeah for 556 horsepower oh that interor
[52:19] is so bad though it's got that screen
[52:21] that rises out of the dash yeah it was
[52:23] it was a very general motor interior but
[52:26] it would be reliable and it would be fun
[52:28] and it is under 40 here's the question
[52:29] how come General Motors for decades just
[52:32] developed signal stocks that remind you
[52:34] of old people there wasn't that was
[52:35] their target they had years too like
[52:37] they there were different ones but every
[52:39] time they'd come out with a new signal
[52:40] stock which they put in every car right
[52:43] it was like old people they're not still
[52:44] using that same one they might be might
[52:46] they might be or a new version of it
[52:48] right old
[52:50] people I don't even know how that makes
[52:52] sense this car doesn't remind me of old
[52:54] people but the signal St was just always
[52:56] like yeah oh but a base CPS sedan we
[53:00] have one coming up by the way like a
[53:01] really nice 3.6 there were two v6s on
[53:04] that CTS a three l and a 3. 3.6 was the
[53:06] one you wanted 300 horsepower people
[53:08] coming with like 11,000 miles no Reserve
[53:11] very interesting result guaranteed it
[53:13] was an old person who bought it and
[53:15] loved their has had a great life right
[53:18] Ken what are their questions that's a
[53:19] pretty good answer though yeah those
[53:21] good answers give Sam a good
[53:24] one let's see here Sam oh how about that
[53:27] one from Shams do you see any cuvs being
[53:30] sought after in the future that's an
[53:32] interesting CUV like crossovers are
[53:34] there any like like long-term desirable
[53:38] yeah no you don't what do you think's
[53:40] going to happen to maccan Turbo like
[53:42] does that become an $88,000 car you guys
[53:43] sold one today didn't you this morning
[53:45] what did that bid to what does a 15
[53:47] Macon turbo go for in 20130 you
[53:51] know yeah that's a pretty good daily for
[53:54] under 30 actually
[53:55] that's a pdk yep 400 Turbo V6 so not
[54:00] that's a quick car and they handle so to
[54:03] drive fun drive I had my first Macan
[54:06] experience recently cuz I had a loner
[54:07] while my car was getting an oil change
[54:09] and it was like great it was a base maon
[54:11] but like handled well it the interior
[54:14] feels that Porsche premium yeah that
[54:17] screen looks and pdk which kayen doesn't
[54:19] have that's the kind of the Maan benefit
[54:22] the Maan is definitely the sportier of
[54:23] the two yeah that's a great choice um
[54:26] are any other crossovers though like FP
[54:31] svr depends what happens to Jag but that
[54:33] won't be no it just won't be if you look
[54:35] at the other like xvr Land Rovers and
[54:38] all those are all just going in One
[54:40] Direction reliability is the problem
[54:42] there um it would have to be a reliable
[54:44] crazy car was any crossover like really
[54:47] desirable is the is the P song way count
[54:50] no but I am curious what happens to the
[54:53] the V12 ones the value
[54:55] yeah I mean you have to imag going to go
[54:57] down but like it's a V12 modern SUV CUV
[55:00] sort of thing it's just in general
[55:02] though I wonder about P even the V8s
[55:03] because Ferraris use Ferraris as like a
[55:05] floor they never trade less than
[55:07] whatever it is for that you know like
[55:09] they just kind of like Cali 35
[55:12] California have yeah M's are cheap but
[55:14] even they have a if it was
[55:18] a you know a lot of other cars from that
[55:20] period other sports cars are now free
[55:22] xjs is like a $100 car Craigslist you
[55:25] know right like I does purro sway follow
[55:29] the depreciation curve of a cayenne and
[55:31] like become free or does cen's a
[55:33] desirable car and they're a 100 off
[55:35] sticker right so yeah an 0304 Cayenne is
[55:38] an $8,000 card is is Puro sangu someday
[55:41] become or because it's a Ferrari is it
[55:44] yeah that's a good question I don't know
[55:46] we'll find out production numbers
[55:48] probably plays a role yeah and the v12s
[55:50] I think are a limited production car but
[55:53] not officially a limited production car
[55:54] I think they made it initially to get it
[55:56] out there and be crazy and then after
[55:58] that it'll go away pretty fast I would
[56:00] imagine yeah I wonder if they're selling
[56:02] them keep them going I think emissions
[56:05] eventually will get to them yeah in
[56:07] their lineup I think no other crossovers
[56:10] are like really that cool there was
[56:11] never like a GT3 right type there's a
[56:15] few SUVs like Trail trackhawk oh
[56:19] interesting yeah trackhawk was cool
[56:21] limited big displacement yeah never
[56:24] going to
[56:25] yeah Durango thing Durango yeah um okay
[56:30] kenon give us another
[56:32] one all right let's see uh if you had
[56:35] Sal uh Sean asks if you had Su of brunai
[56:38] money what car would you commission wow
[56:41] so like basically you have free reain
[56:44] wow that's a really Excell question new
[56:46] S-Class wagon for
[56:48] [Laughter]
[56:50] sure same goes for a practical
[56:53] comfortable start there start there s
[56:56] the brunai was is was a special time too
[56:58] because the automakers needed him right
[57:00] he like self-funded Bentley I think if
[57:03] you called Ferrari today and said I want
[57:06] stick a stick sp3 they'd be like nah
[57:09] we're all good and you'd be like we'll
[57:11] give you 10 million and they'd be like
[57:12] you know what I we're all set thank you
[57:14] so much back then they were like oh a
[57:17] man will take 12 456 and turn them into
[57:20] station wagons we would turn them into
[57:21] monster trucks if it meant we could sell
[57:23] 456 what would the modern equivalent of
[57:25] a 456 Venice B unfortunately it would be
[57:28] a a a FF or whatever GT foro which is
[57:32] already a station wagon they sort of
[57:33] followed his lead everyone sort of
[57:35] followed his lead Bentley ended up
[57:37] making that's so true Ken what would you
[57:41] commission I don't know that's hard
[57:43] because there are so many crazy cars
[57:44] that already exist like the sp3 is like
[57:47] is like car in that vein would be cool
[57:49] but they already make the sp3 and it's
[57:51] awesome he can only imagine what an
[57:53] automaker can already deliv gting break
[57:56] I'm like a German I can't get like the
[57:57] creativity to like think um I don't know
[58:01] I would I really need to think about
[58:03] that I definitely think off-road
[58:04] versions of some SUVs that are on the
[58:06] market i' do an off-road orus an
[58:07] off-road BGA I would do some but it does
[58:10] not exist and be very difficult but I
[58:12] would love a super car from BMW a modern
[58:16] M1 I would love something like that like
[58:18] that concept card that did yeah like the
[58:21] I think something like that would be so
[58:22] cool cuz BMW has other than the M1 has
[58:25] never done a car like that and I would
[58:28] love a modern BMW like as a super car I
[58:30] think would be so cool it probably end
[58:32] up being like the Audi avus Quattro sort
[58:35] of thing but I would love love that yeah
[58:37] that would be cool a GT4 shooting break
[58:40] off-road version off-road version came
[58:42] in GT4 shooting break stor IED would be
[58:46] cool definitely a lifted BGA with some
[58:48] off-road stuff um that you can like do
[58:51] though but I want an OE and I want an
[58:53] exterior roll cage wow exoskeleton yeah
[58:57] nice for the rock crawling yeah yeah uh
[59:00] GT3 Targo would be kind of nice
[59:02] something like that GT3 didn't they make
[59:05] they do that program don't they yeah
[59:07] they have some special programs
[59:08] seemingly no one's ever done it though
[59:10] right I've never seen one but they have
[59:11] to be the soul now you just give Porsche
[59:13] a million dollars and they'll build they
[59:15] will do it right but one of the Porsche
[59:17] family members had like a GT3 RS
[59:20] convertible or something like that yeah
[59:22] that would be a few years I I remember
[59:24] one that was done but it didn't have the
[59:27] engine it the rest of the car was a GT3
[59:29] RS convertible yeah yes I know that one
[59:32] exactly what I'm talking about it's a
[59:33] place in OC that like does all that you
[59:35] know what the answer also is kenon you
[59:37] remember that 288 GTO that like new 288
[59:40] GTO no no no the there was like a modern
[59:43] one that was a rendering that was going
[59:45] around Instagram do you remember that I
[59:47] do I'm going to see if I can find it
[59:48] yeah like that yellow
[59:50] one that would be
[59:53] cool I
[59:55] think there was also a new testos body
[59:59] there was also a new test Roa that was
[60:00] going around that was so that one I do
[60:03] yeah that was the one we like really
[60:05] loved right see if I can find that
[60:07] rendering yeah look at that upper left
[60:10] yeah like that I mean granted they went
[60:14] with the f512m inspired headlights but
[60:17] that is so true the I love the a12 super
[60:19] fast Wheels I mean it kind of fits cuz
[60:21] the throwing stars like that would be
[60:23] cool to Commission looks right it looks
[60:25] the thing about some of these
[60:26] commissions is they're kind of stupid
[60:28] but this looks like something fori would
[60:29] actually build that looks so cool that
[60:31] 348 back kind of I mean the tester Roa
[60:33] had the same treatment as the 348 for
[60:35] the rear but yeah that's that's I mean
[60:38] that's I'd be into that yeah that would
[60:40] be cool that would be so cool like a
[60:42] modern version of an older car a
[60:44] Countach but done
[60:45] well that would be cool they did try
[60:48] that yeah some of these companies have
[60:50] tried don't you think a Kos done well
[60:52] would look really cool yeah I don't
[60:54] disagree yeah Lamborghini's done a few
[60:57] cool concept cars that would be cool
[60:59] yeah that a Stoke a Stoke just a
[61:03] four-door you get a nurse I get nurse
[61:06] with an
[61:08] exoskeleton Mall crawling no I would
[61:12] off-road it yeah great question though
[61:13] Sean great question
[61:16] um let's see uh we do have some other
[61:18] cars that are coming up this week too
[61:20] that I wanted to to talk about briefly
[61:22] um oh yeah this m coup one of them is
[61:24] this yeah this BMW M Coupe this clown
[61:26] shoe this is an s54 powered car right
[61:29] which I was which you taught us the
[61:30] other day yeah the ways to tell an s54
[61:33] powered one versus an s52 powered car
[61:36] one is that these cars had uh of course
[61:39] I click on the image won't load um the
[61:42] wheels on this car are the finished in
[61:45] Chrome Shadow the same as the E39 M5
[61:47] they're the only other BMW wheels to be
[61:49] finished that way to my knowledge and
[61:51] they're real they they are different the
[61:53] normal Wheels on the S 52 cars were just
[61:55] painted silver so this is a very special
[61:57] finish on these cars the other way is
[61:59] that this car got the facelifted badg
[62:01] now go to the go to an s52 we've sold
[62:03] and show me what the old badge looks
[62:05] like sure think so let me pull that up
[62:07] so those wheels are very special but you
[62:08] are screwed if you curb one well the guy
[62:13] we have people you got the Okay click on
[62:14] that red one cck on that red one the
[62:16] first one all right so pull up the rear
[62:18] shot yep so you can see how see how the
[62:20] badge is flatter here go back to the
[62:21] other badge like the E36 M3 so it's like
[62:24] very flat looking and on this car see
[62:26] how it's more curved and rounded oh is
[62:28] right so that yeah of course I'm
[62:30] right these two these two idiots doubted
[62:33] by BMW knowledge go back to the other
[62:35] one go back to the other one see much
[62:37] more flat right from the E36 got to
[62:39] think the engines E46 much more E46 wait
[62:42] go back again I want to see if there's
[62:44] other stuff no not really not a not a
[62:46] ton I believe the other things were um
[62:48] what a weird car this was why did happen
[62:51] how did it how did that get through the
[62:52] lawyers and they were like yeah let's do
[62:55] a hatchback I think be the lore goes
[62:58] it's because the engineers built this
[63:00] car and then Executives drove it and
[63:02] we're like you they could make it cheap
[63:04] because it used a lot of parts from the
[63:06] the existing um Roadster and also the
[63:09] E36 M3 and they're like okay we can make
[63:11] it cheaply it drives really really well
[63:13] okay we we'll Greenlight it and then no
[63:15] one bought it why didn't they do that
[63:17] with the uh e92 pickup truck nice well
[63:21] nice nice I don't think that drove as
[63:23] well as the other 92s that existed at
[63:26] the time well plus there's the chicken
[63:27] tax they could never actually do it with
[63:29] a pickup truck that they made overseas
[63:30] because they they'd have to pay the
[63:31] import Duty oh interesting 25% Kenan
[63:34] knows all about the chicken Texas he
[63:36] like a nice chicken he had to uh build
[63:38] his pickup truck startup here in the
[63:40] United States but nonetheless this one
[63:41] 39,000 miles so the Madge also on the
[63:44] side gills on the sides is that same
[63:46] it's just flatter on the 52 corre and
[63:48] then also the gauge color change so they
[63:51] did the s54 is have the E46 M3 and one
[63:55] sh with pleasure I believe that's true I
[63:59] believe that's true wow wow po who knew
[64:02] kenan's got all these I I figured there
[64:04] I know something I BMWs what an
[64:08] interesting color com what about the
[64:09] seats are the seats the same seats are
[64:11] the same yeah I don't think those
[64:12] changed at all yeah same you can get
[64:14] them in two tone as well interesting now
[64:16] we know good decision not to get them in
[64:18] two tone
[64:20] but so this one is ending when tomorrow
[64:22] so this one yeah this one ends tomorrow
[64:25] and it's an s54 car that's a pretty car
[64:28] so cool no accidents on car facta I mean
[64:30] I I really like these cars my only us to
[64:33] with them is like the E the E36 and E46
[64:36] M3 are both excellent and cost
[64:38] substantially less and so and I just
[64:41] have always gravitated towards those
[64:42] cars but man I would love a shoe yeah
[64:44] but this is special it is special it is
[64:47] special but then again you get 2 G you
[64:49] get in it you you turn the lights on it
[64:51] goes like if you don't if you don't have
[64:53] the car on like it's just like there's a
[64:55] lot of E30 in the car it's like it's not
[64:58] it's built like an E36 at the end of the
[65:00] day which was not known for its build
[65:02] quality um there's a lot of Parts
[65:03] recycling from the E30 like these Vents
[65:05] and and stuff like that so it's a lot of
[65:08] rattle canny for for how much they cost
[65:10] but the Driving Experience having I
[65:12] drove that s52 those the best cars and
[65:14] it drove so great I drove that a uh an
[65:18] NSX and an E46 M3 all on the same day
[65:21] and then I also drove a 993 Turbo S the
[65:23] next day and of them Dam f for the for
[65:26] the money good for him it was it was a
[65:29] great two days but for the money the one
[65:31] I had the most fun in was the Clown Shoe
[65:33] like it just was so balanced and fun and
[65:35] like didn't have to worry about it
[65:37] scraping I was terrified scraping the
[65:39] NSX and all those are great cars and
[65:41] their own right but for the money dollar
[65:42] per fun like I had the most fun in the
[65:43] clown CH yeah that was an 52 car and
[65:46] it's so just so special it's such an
[65:47] interesting look whenever I see one I
[65:49] still freak out even a nonm I'm still
[65:51] like this is so weird totally yeah and
[65:53] people forget that they made the
[65:54] standard car as a Coupee too as a
[65:56] non-mar tip you can just drive it around
[65:58] and use it like a hatchback yeah exactly
[66:00] in BD so this car was more E30 and the
[66:03] z4m coups were more E9 that was kind of
[66:07] more E90 cuz it was already the next
[66:08] generation of cars I got this car was
[66:10] more E36 in fact the model code is oh
[66:13] E36 E36 yeah E36 d8 for the for the Cs
[66:16] did you know that no I didn't they kept
[66:18] the E36 chassis designation weird now
[66:21] they change the chassis designation when
[66:22] the car has a different color
[66:24] yeah I mean I'm not wrong there's like
[66:26] like there's like 18 chassis
[66:28] designations for the new three series
[66:29] but back then E36 that was the Z3 too
[66:33] right it made no
[66:35] sense yeah but very cool car that one's
[66:39] and then the last one I was asked to
[66:40] mention was this uh this yeah this humer
[66:43] the dog is a former humer owner can you
[66:46] reflect on uh reflect on this car little
[66:48] bit in your Hummer ownership experience
[66:49] would have been better with a diesel
[66:51] they look cool they're baller you can go
[66:53] anywhere with them this one is a
[66:55] missions smog Exempted California Sam if
[66:57] you're interested cuz it's a diesel you
[66:59] want to if you want to think about it
[67:00] you want a wagon you want a wagon wagons
[67:02] just look way cooler than the soft tops
[67:04] you got to have a wagon or a pickup
[67:06] pickups look pretty cool too but a lot
[67:08] of them were the twodo like soft top
[67:10] things if you can get a slant back
[67:11] that's cool too but they didn't really
[67:12] make them for the civilian Market I
[67:14] became kind of a Hummer expert during
[67:15] the experience and uh you tracked yours
[67:17] didn't you yeah took it on the New
[67:19] Jersey Motorsports Park wow what a waste
[67:21] of a day good content K give us two two
[67:24] more good questions and then we'll sign
[67:25] off for the day all right let's have a
[67:28] look make him make him Sam
[67:31] specific Sam specific how about that how
[67:34] about that question from dimma what do
[67:37] you think about the Mercedes McLaren SLR
[67:39] that's a very good Sam question yep Sam
[67:42] that's your cars I think that the
[67:44] roadsters are cool I personally would
[67:47] never get one it's got that same
[67:49] five-speed from the SL65 right yeah but
[67:51] it could handle 7,000 horsepower yeah I
[67:54] mean it's super baller and we used to
[67:56] joke about that car being 10 grand a
[67:57] corner for brakes turns out that's like
[67:59] pretty normal for for cars in that realm
[68:02] yeah I mean career GT is up there too
[68:04] yeah but it's a career GT what so what
[68:06] do you think you think it's cool I like
[68:08] the um engine start
[68:10] button right I like side pipes yep and I
[68:14] like the way the hood comes forward yep
[68:17] and that's pretty much all that's
[68:20] it I'm like really into the SLR what do
[68:22] those cost I have no idea
[68:24] they were cheap I don't know if they
[68:26] still are can I get one for like
[68:29] 250 that's what I that's what I want to
[68:32] pay right Manny's got them all call me
[68:34] when you can get me one at 250 that's
[68:35] what I'm to tell her yeah I should call
[68:37] they were 250 I do appreciate how the
[68:40] Roadster maintained those doors like
[68:43] perfectly yeah I don't want a roadster
[68:45] though I think the cop is there's
[68:46] something special about roader yeah K be
[68:50] doors go up the same way on both of them
[68:51] all right click on that click on that
[68:53] we're on classic.com what are these
[68:54] things selling for so you want a CPE
[68:56] you're saying so yeah give me a c i want
[68:57] a want 303 aage 303 huh it still seems
[69:01] like especially when you consider the
[69:02] other cars that that was like fighting
[69:04] with at the time right Enzo Enzo is 4
[69:08] million Kut is a million five this is
[69:11] 33,8 whatever granted you got a five
[69:14] speed you got a down what are these
[69:16] actually selling for what what did they
[69:18] sell for Barrett Jackson last week I'll
[69:21] buy one of million dollar I'll pay two
[69:24] one of these things let's see bar
[69:25] Jackson right there 332 for a tmu car
[69:29] wow that's more than I want to pay yeah
[69:31] that's if I'm if I'm PID 332 I'd like to
[69:33] know the miles that' be good
[69:36] generally yeah that's kind of what slrs
[69:38] are going for these days 313 it does
[69:41] seem like a very special car like if we
[69:43] saw one we'd freak out you just never SE
[69:47] huh you thinking you should be maybe
[69:50] instead of AO you should you should what
[69:52] about you nah
[69:54] you like a you like bad breake response
[69:57] that's it doesn't break
[69:59] well neither the F40 you're over here
[70:02] talking on the oh I love yeah but the
[70:03] Hood's not 8T long on that car and you
[70:05] can't see where it is okay so you think
[70:07] that the front the front end right
[70:09] correspond to braking response no it
[70:11] makes it much you when you're parking
[70:13] you need brake response when you're
[70:14] moving and you press the pedal it
[70:16] doesn't do anything and you run into
[70:17] something because it's too long it makes
[70:19] it difficult I had to move a lot of
[70:20] those cars around my the longer the
[70:23] front end the better the brakes should
[70:24] be and because The Brak should just work
[70:27] generally as a car the fact that this is
[70:29] coupled with a car that has a nose that
[70:31] is so long it's like an anteater wild so
[70:34] you think like Volkswagen vanan breaks
[70:36] unnecessary because front end you're
[70:39] right there I'm saying it is more
[70:40] because of the car's shape and the fact
[70:43] that the brakes don't work it is really
[70:45] annoying to drive and that is true the
[70:47] brakes work it was just an early carbo
[70:49] ceramic and so you have to press you
[70:52] have you have to
[70:54] you have to press it down hard very
[70:56] annoying car to drive I that's I think
[70:59] they look great you know how like the
[71:00] Enzo has that long nose to be like F1
[71:03] car yeah that was the point of that were
[71:04] they doing that too yeah yeah Mercedes
[71:07] McLaren right that's fair they ran out
[71:09] of ideas so everyone was just and so in
[71:11] order to make it especially like an F1
[71:13] car they gave it a 5-speed
[71:15] automatic very
[71:17] special that was the goal and it says
[71:20] SLR in giant print in the center control
[71:22] stack right I K you got another
[71:25] one let's
[71:29] see not especially going
[71:33] through scroll down there's there's
[71:35] other good ones I saw another good one
[71:37] go down further further which which car
[71:40] Oliver ask which car brand has the best
[71:41] adaptive cruise and Lane keeping
[71:45] assist do you think I should answer this
[71:46] question correctly or or like am my
[71:49] politically correct answer the answer is
[71:52] no longer Tesla Sam wants to get a t
[71:53] Tesla is such a mistake it's Appliance
[71:55] car yeah but it doesn't you have to
[71:57] babysit the Adaptive now Tesla had to
[72:00] update their adaptive cruise the other
[72:02] day and now you have to like jiggle the
[72:04] wheel day this was like like December
[72:06] like it was like six weeks ago you got
[72:08] to jiggle the wheel now to tell the car
[72:09] you're there
[72:11] beep
[72:13] beep so what car doesn't do that that
[72:15] you also have to have your eyes monitor
[72:18] a lot of them any car with a capacitive
[72:20] touch Steering Wheel that's the game
[72:21] changer in the self-driving world you
[72:23] want to have a capacitive touch Steering
[72:26] Wheel and Mercedes BMW
[72:30] um My Land Rover my um Toyota all them
[72:34] Chrysler which is my favorite personally
[72:36] um Jeeps get away with it they're trying
[72:38] to sell them in any touch wheel is the
[72:41] greatest
[72:42] benefit so what's the answer I don't
[72:45] know anything with the
[72:47] wheel Sam answer one of these and then
[72:49] we'll stop give us one good one one good
[72:53] one one California answer that where are
[72:56] you
[72:58] looking do you think the Ferrari
[73:00] California is undervalued in the current
[73:02] market is it 80 Shams ask that one yeah
[73:06] uh is it 80 uh 80 yeah figure 80 85 80 I
[73:10] don't think they're under think it's
[73:11] properly valued I think it's properly
[73:13] valued but I still think it's a buy yeah
[73:16] yeah I think it's a but the people
[73:18] buying them aren't buying them because
[73:20] they're like it's a 3.8 to 60 front
[73:22] engine Ferrari convertible but the
[73:25] people buying them aren't buying them
[73:26] for those items they're buying them
[73:29] because it's a Ferrari it's a Ferrari
[73:30] they want the key there's a lot of rims
[73:32] there's a key yep right yeah but it is a
[73:35] pretty impressive car to drive just
[73:37] embarrassing to be seen in though I yeah
[73:41] among our crowd but like you drive that
[73:43] car most places and it's like whoa a
[73:46] Ferrari right I wonder if those are
[73:48] swappable by way that was DCT right by
[73:50] the way they did make it with a manual
[73:52] as well they did drag race you in a Cali
[73:55] against your little boxer spider any day
[73:56] of the
[73:57] week you would definitely win probably
[73:59] win in the E wagon you think so yeah
[74:02] it's not about speed Doug it's about the
[74:04] experience of driving the car I think
[74:05] the Cali has a great driving C does have
[74:07] a great driving exp I think the Cali is
[74:08] underrated but not
[74:10] undervalued that's a good way yeah yeah
[74:14] I agree with that because an AMG GT is
[74:17] probably
[74:18] undervalued a Cali is not undervalued at
[74:21] its price point right 80s 0 is the money
[74:24] yeah if it is the modern mondal right
[74:26] those are 35 right okay that's our Sam
[74:31] do you have any other thoughts for
[74:32] us no not much else to leave you guys
[74:35] with you don't have any thoughts any
[74:38] like Words of Wisdom words of
[74:40] wisdom no I got no wisdom Che kenon
[74:46] anything I still want a boxer spider
[74:48] yeah that's wisdom that's some Sam
[74:51] wisdom and I want a new WRX
[74:53] goodbye everyone
[74:58] goodbye