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title: 'A Potential Death Blow To AI Search - WAN Show June 12, 2026'
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# A Potential Death Blow To AI Search - WAN Show June 12, 2026

> Source: [A Potential Death Blow To AI Search - WAN Show June 12, 2026](https://youtube.com/watch?v=cOOJEKS4sJs)

## Summary

The WAN Show discusses Google being held liable in Germany for false information provided by AI Overviews, a potential landmark case for AI accountability. Other topics include a Florida hospital using Palantir to catch sepsis early, Instagram's new algorithm controls, and a deep dive into a debunked solid-state battery claim by Donut Labs.

### Key Points

- **Google Liable for AI Overview False Info** [02:44] — A German court ruled Google is accountable for false information in AI Overviews, citing a case where the AI combined info from publishers with scams and added fabricated details.
- **Palantir Sepsis AI Saves Lives** [25:58] — Tampa General Hospital uses Palantir's Sepsis Hub to monitor 1000 patients in real-time, cutting sepsis deaths by 886 and hospital stays by 30% since 2022.
- **Instagram Lets Users Control Algorithm** [39:02] — Instagram expands 'Your Algorithm' feature to the main feed, allowing users to add/remove topics they want to see, powered by LLMs for content categorization.
- **Donut Labs Battery Debunked** [120:02] — Investigation by YouTuber Zeroth reveals Donut Labs' claimed solid-state sodium-ion battery is actually a standard lithium-ion cell, with voltage curves and expansion data proving it.
- **Apple Introduces Siri AI** [141:02] — Apple announces Siri AI at WWDC, featuring on-device processing, privacy focus, and capabilities like personal context awareness and task automation.
- **Meta's Secret Facial Recognition in Glasses** [151:50] — Wired reveals Meta's Ray-Ban smart glasses app contained code for facial recognition (Name Tag), which was pulled after public scrutiny.

### Conclusion

The show highlights the ongoing tension between AI's potential benefits and its risks, from legal accountability and medical breakthroughs to privacy concerns and outright fraud.

## Transcript

WHAT IS UP EVERYONE AND WELCOME to the W
show. We've got a great show lined up
for you guys today. Google has been
found liable for false information
provided by AI overview. This is in
Germany, so it might not necessarily be
helpful to everyone, but it is a step
towards holding big tech accountable for
the false information that it propagates
with its um, you know, let's call them
sophisticated and yet foundationally
flawed AI technology. In other news,
speaking of flawed technology, Donut
Labs's solidate battery has been exposed
as a regular lithium ion thanks to some
incredible work from one of our our
fellow YouTubers who I Oh man, I hate it
when people do this. Uh, so whose name
I'm actually going to use, unlike the
way that people usually cite YouTubers,
Zeroth, fantastic video we're going to
be talking about a little bit later. No,
don't you hate that, Luke? When the
headline of a traditional media article
is YouTuber,
>> yeah,
>> YouTuber has a name. Uh, what else we
got this week?
>> You can just tell the Instagram
algorithm what you want now, which is
which is actually kind of interesting.
And this is a this is a sounds really
fantastic on the surface and is kind of
but is also terrifying. Uh a Florida
hospital is using Palunteer
to catch sepsis earlier and it's saved
886 lives so far.
So is this one of those cases where like
even a broken clock is right twice a day
Palunteer did something that we're
supportive of?
Uh well
let's get more into it.
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why don't we jump right into our
headline topic, which is that Google has
been found liable for false information
provided by AI overview. In a potential
landmark case, the regional court of
Munich has ruled that Google, if they're
going to, you know, have their product,
spit out an output based on all of the
data that they ingested, some of it
legally, some of it, it seems, uh, we're
still questioning the legality of it.
They're accountable for what it says,
which, you know,
maybe is a good thing. The same way that
newspapers were accountable for what
they printed and you know radio shows
are accountable for what they say. Well,
Google's AI is also accountable. Yeah.
PE, if you're a if you're a mass media
outlet and you reach literally millions
of people, you should have some
accountability for having there be a
factual basis to the things that are
being propagated.
>> Sure. I just don't know how often that
actually like applies. It it applied to
um uh what's his name? Um,
>> you're not going to bring up Alex. You
are okay. That's where you're going with
it. Uh, well, yeah. I mean, it relies on
somebody to actually hold you
accountable to it in many cases, but
there is there is a basis for but there
is an expectation that if you are
spreading information that you are
responsible for the accuracy of it. The
case was initially brought by two German
publishing companies after Google's AI
overview presented information about
them, combined with that of shady
companies and online scams, and then
drew information that didn't appear in
any of the linked sources,
which I mean, Luke, have you ever
experienced that with Google's AI
overview where it goes blah blah blah
this thing citation and then you click
it?
completely not in there. Like
>> citations by AIS are are are pretty
sketchy in general, but um this this
does line up. This was pointed out by
Flowplane chat as well, but I I think I
lost the message, but this does line up
with other things. There's uh customer
support chat bots where what they say
has been held as like fact. So the
customer support chatbot offers you
something and uh the the company's held
to to follow through with it. Um, did I
did I just see it? I thought I just saw
it. Darn it. Somebody in chat pointed
out I think it was Air Canada. Yeah, Pa
Paige in chat said Air Canada was
already held liable for something
incorrect their support chatbot said.
And I think there was other companies as
well, not just Air Canada. So,
>> Google,
>> yeah, it kind of follows other things.
Google pulled the classic defense of,
"Well, users can fact check for
themselves, and they do plan to appeal
the ruling with a spokesperson saying,
"This case focuses on specific and
narrow errors, not the foundational way
that AI overviews display web content."
Um,
right. But
these specific and narrow errors are
inherent to the way that foundationally
AI overviews seem to work, at least at
this stage in the game. Like these
hallucinations are not
new. They're not an unknown. Um, and to
Google's credit, they do say in AI
overviews that, you know, AI can make
errors and that you need to check it or
whatever, but like
I I think there's a
I think there's still a if we all know,
right? It's kind of like the it's like
what went down with end user license
agreements, right? like you had these
these long theoretically legally binding
documents.
Everybody knew on both sides, the
companies writing these end user license
agreements, the people signing them,
everybody knew that nobody was reading
them. So when push came to shove, it was
ultimately found that if if someone was
not actually wellinformed and was was
not actually aware, then this stuff
wasn't going to be binding. it didn't it
didn't just absolve you of of breaking a
law the fact that you wrote into your
end user license agreement that you were
like allowed to do it. So, in the same
way, if we know that people are trusting
this stuff and that they're not noticing
these these errors and they're not
actually doing the due diligence, then
there, in my opinion, there's a certain
responsibility on the companies that are
putting this information. I'm going to
put that in giant air quotes, putting
this information out there to ensure
that it is factual. And if it's not
factual, who's accountable? Who's
responsible?
And yeah, Google's going to say the
user, but like I think Google knows
probably better than just about anyone
else that the user is just not going to
do that work. Like the entire the entire
premise of this feature is that we're
just going to surface the information in
an even more convenient manner because
we know the user doesn't want to click
through and read a bunch of stuff.
That's the whole point.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, we have a few discussion
questions here. Um, first of all,
should the AI pushers be allowed to use
the public as their beta testers while
they work out the kinks here? Is there a
level I I'm going to clarify this or I'm
going to add a layer to this one. Is
there a level of disclaimer that you
would consider
acceptable so that it could just spew
misinformation like this? Like, how beta
would it have to look and feel?
Um, I'm trying to see what it looks like
right now, just out of curiosity. Sure.
Um, it doesn't look like there's
any flags whatsoever. So, above the
fold, um, I I just Googled testing and
it gave me an AI overview of the word
testing. Um, and before clicking show
more, there's there's nothing. It it has
the little Gemini icon. It says AI
overview. There's the the quick summary
with its uh citations,
some more information, more links on the
right hand side, but there's no
indication that this isn't ready to go.
>> Yeah, I've got I did the same thing just
to to make it a little bit easier for
the people. So, it's got a couple
citations here that makes it look very
credible.
>> I click show more.
>> Once you click show more, there's fine
print at the very bottom that says AI
can make mistakes, so double check
responses.
>> Holy crap. I I actually do do I have
that? Am I missing it, guys? Am I
missing something here?
>> It's on mine. It's right above where the
chat input is where you would type just
to the left of the like share, like, and
dislike buttons.
>> Uh-huh.
Am I Am I Guys, help me out here. I feel
like I'm gaslighting myself because I
was pretty sure there was a thing. I do
not see it.
>> Whoa. I don't see it on yours. What the
heck?
>> Mine has it.
What?
What the heck?
>> That's super weird. It's It's on my
side.
>> Okay, doesn't always show.
>> People are asking if I have an ad
blocker. Uh, I mean, it shouldn't do
that, but like, what extensions do I
have?
>> I got nothing here, guys. Here's my
extensions.
What What else we got here, guys? What
else we got?
Do you want to open a a private browsing
tab and do the same thing?
>> I would like to do that very much.
Okay.
Blah blah. There it is.
>> Yeah.
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. So, that's
interesting. It also moved this
interface over to the right.
Yeah, it's probably just reactive, but
yeah,
>> it didn't need
Yeah, but it's It went all the way from
left aligned to right aligned, though.
Oh, no. It's not quite left aligned. Oh,
you're right. Interesting.
Is it even quite right aligned, though?
You know what? No, no, I think
>> Yeah. No, it's just buffered off on both
of them.
>> Interesting.
So, it just it just didn't for some
reason sometimes. I mean man.
Okay, so back to my question then. What
is the degree of disclaimer that would
be acceptable to you? Obviously what I
encountered just there with no
disclaimer and this is this is Chrome.
This is like the chromest chrome ass
Chrome of Chrome browser. I don't even
have any extensions or anything like
there is no excuse because I'm Googled
all the way through the pipeline. So
clearly that's not acceptable at all.
And honestly, I don't even think the
other version that I got in the
incognito window, I mean, I think you
and I could probably both agree that's
not enough if it's going to be making
like egregious errors like this.
>> Yeah, fine print that you have to click
show more to even see. Like it's
literally not like you you can get
results
that are conclusive results and not see
the disclaimer because you didn't click
show more. You need to click another
thing in order to get the disclaimer is
like obviously not enough. I think it
would need a pretty major badge. Um I
don't look at the AI overview too often
so I wasn't really ready for this but I
was expecting it to next to where it
shows the Gemini logo and AI overview. I
was expecting a big fat beta testing
batch. Um,
>> right. So, you want it like right here
like AI overview
beta uh you know results.
>> Yeah.
>> May contain uh misin factual errors and
uh incorrect information. Uh check all
cited links in order to uh verify before
believing anything it says. That would
be would that be enough for you?
Uh, I mean, I don't like the feature at
all, but yeah, I think that would be
enough for me. Um, someone in chat, uh,
Mini Catalyst said, "Dumb user here. I
didn't know it was in beta." I don't
think that it is.
>> Um,
>> I don't think it's in I haven't seen I
don't see any indication on the feature
that it's in beta.
Yeah, I just said beta uh because
I don't know
that's the type of thing that I'm used
to flagging, I guess. Uh right, speaking
for them. Um, so yeah, like uh I guess
don't flag it with beta, but
some much more in-your-face thing saying
that this information
um is man, I I'd like it to even say
likely incorrect because I catch the the
very few times that I've really used the
AI overview on Google, it's it's wrong
like
>> a lot of the time. I don't know what
model they're running, but it seems not
sophisticated. It's It's fast. Like it
it really does seem like they're running
a pretty fast, pretty light,
>> pretty
not thorough
model. And the funny thing about it is I
forget what I was looking at earlier
today. Um, but I was I was sitting in I
was sitting in script review with Elijah
and
for
and maybe this is maybe this is crazy,
but we uh Oh, yeah. I remember what it
was. Um, we were looking for comments
like you know how sometimes in our
videos we'll do like a collage of
similar comments like last time on tech
house you guys asked you know why we
scavenged the copper the way we did and
we'll go d and we'll put a bunch of
comments about that. So, there's a
really cool new feature in the YouTube
dashboard where you can search your
comments using AI search for anything
that instead of just searching for like
a keyword, you can look for anything
about this topic or anything that was
critical of Lionus' hairdo or whatever.
You can just you can search for for
sentiment now, which honestly
pretty cool and useful
uh feature for for LLMs. Anyway, um, so
I searched for something specific. I
don't remember exactly what it was, and
it crapped out a list of all the
comments, and I was like, "Oh, that's
super great." And okay, here, Elijah,
when you're going through and you're
doing the guidance for this video, here,
let me just copy this link to the studio
dashboard to the search result, and I
will throw that into the script um like
like guidance column.
And then I was like, wait, is that going
to work,
right? like is it I know it'll bring up
the dash. I know I can link someone who
also has access to the dashboard and I
can even link them to the specific page,
but is it going to is it going to link
that search query?
And so I clicked it to check it
and it did.
But I was like, hey, wait a second.
I think it generated that result again.
It didn't cache it at all.
which honestly for something like the
YouTube dashboard wouldn't surprise me
that much. But for something like a
super commonly searched term like this,
like do did you get exactly the same
result as me or did you get an LLM
generated output fresh for you? Do you
want to have a quick look?
>> Um, yeah. So, mine I think I closed that
tab already. Okay. I mean, you could
just search again. I'm I'll read mine
and you tell me when it stops matching.
>> Testing is the systematic process of
evaluating a system.
>> Already off.
>> Okay. So, here's a question for me and
and you know I I am not a systems
architect. I am not a deep expert on
LLMs or anything of the sort.
But what I do know is that right now we
have big tech absolutely desperate to
build more data centers in order to
support their AI endeavors. Um we have
just like a like a massive volume of use
of products like search and we have this
technology that we've had for you know
all of computing um caching that
it seems to me might be useful. So why
would they run like a crappier model
that to your point, yeah, I've noticed
that AI overviews makes a ton of
mistakes, like more than other better
LLMs makes. So in order to manage their
resource usage, wouldn't you think they
would just like
cache this or like cache common queries,
update them once a day, once every
couple days? like the the the definition
of testing
>> is not going to change between now and
tomorrow.
>> Yeah. And and I find it interesting
because before if I would Google
something like a a specific word and I
would do this very often.
>> Yeah.
>> It would it would surface, you know, a
definition. Um,
sometimes I will I I've done this in the
past and you know, maybe they don't want
me to do this, but I've done this in the
past where sometimes I'll Google
something for a spell check.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, because the Google search will be
like, "Ah, you spelled this word wrong."
Right. Um, now it'll think I'm like
trying to talk to it
and I run into some weird some weird
scenarios. Um,
yeah. I I like Google is genuinely
significantly less useful for me and
I've been using it way less.
>> This is interesting.
>> AO overview became a thing.
>> This is interesting. They're doing at
least a little bit of caching. Chat
pointed out that my two search results,
one in my regular browser and one in my
incognito tab, did return identical
results.
H
Okay.
>> Interesting. Uh, try a different browser
entirely.
>> Uh, okay. All right. I'll open it.
>> All right. Microsoft, are you are you a
Microsoft representative?
>> Are you trying to
>> No. Well, I mean, you could use Firefox.
>> I don't have it on here.
>> You could use Chrome to get Firefox.
>> I did get the same result.
interesting
>> because I know there was this thing
recently, I don't know if we talked
about it on my show or not, but uh
Google Chrome is reserving like a bunch
of space on your on your drive uh for AI
stuff and I don't remember if that in
included things like results and
whatnot.
>> Okay.
>> Um so a different browser getting the
same one is is interesting. Someone in
chat Oh, I just saw it. Uh, Kuro Setsuna
29 said, "I wonder if it's region cache.
I'm in a different region."
>> Yeah,
>> that would be interesting.
>> Yeah, that could be it.
>> Um, cuz mine goes, "Testing is the act
of subjecting a system person or process
to experiments." Uh, which is different
than yours. Yeah, it's close but
different right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. A little bit little bit
different.
>> And I I refreshed the page and got the
same thing. Let Let me try in a
different browser.
>> Okay. All right, this has become kind of
an interesting rabbit hole. Sorry, guys.
I know you were expecting Wan show, but
uh
>> I mean this is W show.
>> This is kind of Wan show.
>> Yeah.
>> Testing.
Oh,
in okay
in Firefox
>> paste
>> on this device. Um,
I'm not logged in.
>> Mhm.
>> So, it's figuring out my geo location
and making everything
Uh, Mandrin, I'm guessing.
>> Oh, that makes sense. Actually,
>> it did not give me an AI overview at
all.
>> Okay, then. Yeah, that checks out.
>> English
trying to do URL things
testing.
>> Avon Fox says it's probably quicker to
regenerate than to pull from cache.
Yeah, but that's exactly what I was kind
of wondering is like are they better off
using a better model? Um, and then using
caching versus a super light model that
like makes a ton of mistakes. Um,
especially when it's something that, you
know, is a is a pretty static uh outcome
like a like something that is not going
to to change from day to day like the
definition of a common word for
instance.
One second here. Sorry.
There we go. Uh, can I change this?
>> It's also interesting to me that it um
it cites Cambridge dictionary
>> as its first one uh with
club.mministry of testing, whatever the
devil that is, and also some YouTube
short. Um, and then when I actually go
there, oh, there's an ad. Oh, wow.
That's a lot of LT store ads. Oh my
goodness.
Uh anyway, nowhere on the Cambridge site
is like exactly that definition. And
you'd think it would be it would be
simpler and less errorprone to just give
me
>> That's a lot of LT store ads.
>> That's a lot of LT store ads. Hey,
>> holy crap.
>> All the LT.
>> How much money was just spent spamming
your browser with that?
>> I shudder to think. you know, it might
have been pretty effective because it
ended up on W show though. Um, okay. So,
mine mine did not match.
Um, but I'm wondering if So, so I went
to specifically a like Canadian
Google search thing. Um, I didn't
actually realize this was even a thing
at all. I I searched up Google Canada
and uh it gave me like
I don't know if you go to Google right
now, does it show a like red and white
Google logo with the Canadian Soccer
Association logo and stuff flicking by?
>> Uh
sorry, this Yeah,
>> let me see.
I gotta wait for this thing to catch up.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, I got that
basically um and I searched on there.
>> Yeah.
>> And now I got testing is the act of
evaluating, measuring or examining the
capability, safety or characteristics of
something and then blah blah blah blah
blah blah. Is that the same as yours?
>> Um I don't
>> because that is very different than my
previous one.
>> Not quite. systematic process of
evaluating a system, product or idea to
determine its functionality, performance
or safety. Yeah. So, it just it shuffles
things around a little bit. And when you
shuffle things a little bit, well, then
>> you introduce the potential for errors.
And it's just seems to be a feature
rather than a bug. And that's just kind
of what we're stuck with. And somebody's
somebody's got to be accountable for it.
And you know, Google's basically saying,
"Hey, well, it should be the user." But
I mean, we just with this the simplest
of tests, the searching the word testing
found that it will sort of move things
around. It'll site sources that don't
actually have exactly that definition.
I just I and it's and it's hard because
it's really tempting cuz it's right
there. Like I find myself searching for
something and going,
"Right, right, right, right, right. I
can't trust that. Don't look at that.
look under that. Go under the fold and
start clicking into things because it's
just it's just so convenient.
Why don't we jump into our next big
topic? You want to pick one?
>> Sure. Um let's let's tackle this because
I'm interested in how this is going to
go. Um
a Florida hospital is using Palunteer to
catch sepsis earlier. It saved 886 lives
so far. Um
yeah, Tampa General Hospital in Florida
has used Palunteer built has used a
Palunteer built system called the sepsis
hub.
>> Okay, that's a scary name.
>> It is to save an estimated 886 lives
since 2022
having sepsis related deaths. The
software pulls realtime data from
electronic health records, lab results,
clinician notes, and bedside monitors
across roughly a thousand patients at
once, watching for subtle early signals
of sepsis that can get lost on a busy
floor. Then alerts a rapid response team
so flagged patients get antibiotics
within an hour. It's also cut sepsis
patient hospital stays by 30%. which is
uh going to benefit all other problems
basically. Uh context why this matters,
sepsis kills around 350,000
Americans a year, making it the leading
cause of death in US hospitals. Tampa
General isn't alone in its results
either. A separate AI model called
Composer tested by UC San Diego across
two ERS showed a 17% drop in sepsis
deaths after going live. Uh the
discussion question is if an AI system
could demonstraably have sepsis deaths
deaths at one hospital, what's actually
stopping every other hospital from
deploying the same kind of tool? Um
>> I think the thing stopping it is
>> posture but also rigor.
>> Um like they have to verify that this
thing actually does work first. Um, I
mean, now that it's working, I think
that will probably help it to become
something that would be
>> you need to make sure it's not doing
anything else potentially bad as well.
Um,
but it it is probably pretty good. And
obviously, you can't exactly b 886
lives. And I think uh the families of
the people saved would probably even be
annoyed that I even brought this up. But
one thing that flagged me immediately
when reading this is that Palunteer is
receiving the health records, lab
results, clinician notes, and all the
details from the bedside monitors of
every single patient at this entire
hospital. Um,
>> well, roughly a thousand patients. I
don't know if it's every single
>> I think that's everyone at the hospital.
I think it's everyone at the hospital
that has those things. Um, I could be
wrong, but I I I I think that's the case
because their their note here, um, the
other thing that I I thought was
interesting, um, is it's it's not just
patients with sepsis
>> because they're trying to do early
warning detections for patients getting
sepsis.
>> Um, so I I think they're just if you're
if you're that wired up, um,
>> I think I think your initial assessment
was right. Uh, by the way, this is
hilarious. AI overview. Tampa General
Hospital is licensed for 1354 total beds
systemwide across a blah blah blah blah
blah uh blah blah blah blah. About Tampa
General Hospital. Tampa General is
licensed for 982 beds
right under it.
>> Beautiful. Fantastic. I I I honestly I I
I find mistakes in the AI overview like
almost every single time I use it. It's
I I hate it. It has genuinely made
Google significantly worse for me. Um I
I have seen myself using other tools
because Google is worse for me now than
it was in like I don't know
2015. Like genuinely 11 years ago. Like
we've we've gone so far back that we're
over a decade behind. Um, and you know,
maybe maybe it'll eventually be better
or something, but it's it's worse than
useless right now. Um, but anyways, back
back to the topic.
Looking at Palanteer's playbook, um,
they want to own all of the data in the
world. They've they've basically
publicly said that they don't want
people to have any form of freedom and
that people won't commit crimes anymore
when there is genuinely no such thing as
privacy because uh any any government in
the world would instantaneously know if
anyone did anything out of line. Um like
they they are
not good. Um, and I think it's going to
be very very difficult for people to
look at this thing that is making a
massive positive impact. Um, 886 lives,
having the deaths and reducing hospital
stays for a common and major issue by
30% are not things that anyone can b at.
Those are very serious numbers.
>> Those are exciting things. I mean,
anytime you talk
>> difficult to deny,
>> even to an AI skeptic, you know, one of
the first things they'll say is like,
>> "Yeah, when they when they announced
this stuff, they promised it was going
to revolutionize medicine. If that's
what it was doing, then I would be fine
with it." Like pretty much everyone I
talk to who's like anti- AI is like okay
but if it was this then it would be
fine.
It's just that unfortunately you've got
companies like Palanteer that are doing
that stuff where we're saving human
lives which seems like a pretty useful
and noble endeavor for AI but also using
it as a means to collect that data to
pursue
a lot less comforting future outcomes.
Um,
>> yeah.
>> So, I think that could be one of the
things back to our discussion question,
preventing other hospitals from
deploying this same technology.
>> I also think like you wouldn't really
have a choice. Um, a lot of times
depending on how bad your condition is,
you just literally have to go to the
closest hospital. Um, I've heard some
weird stuff about the American medical
system where like you're out of your
insurance capture zone or something, so
you have to get
driven further something. I don't know.
I'm a Canadian. Our healthcare system
does not work that way. Um, but like
this stuff's just going to be running.
Like I I I doubt you're, you know,
There's there's a lot of
systems built around health care and end
of life where like the funeral business
is incredibly lucrative because
when someone passes
>> you don't want to see
>> yeah people are very unlikely to say no
>> y
>> to upsells. Uh so the industry makes a
lot of money. Uh the healthcare industry
is very similar. it. There is a ton of
money that goes into especially near end
of life because if someone uh closely
related to you is suffering, you are
very unlikely to say no to um upgrades
in in care.
>> Um this is one of those situations where
it's like are you okay with the health
records, lab results, clinician notes,
bedside monitor access, and probably
tons of other things being mass data
harvested from your loved one. Oh, also
they might not die if you click this
checkbox.
A lot of people are going to click the
check box. Yep.
>> I I would wager pretty much everyone. Um
but then that also does lead to
the, you know, the super dystopian
futures that specifically Palanteer has
been saying they want to create. Ivonne
keeps asking me what I want for my
funeral, and I'm like,
>> I'm dead.
Do whatever makes you happy. I couldn't
possibly care.
>> Yeah,
>> monetize it. I don't know.
Charge admission.
I'm sure there's at least someone who'd
want to see me dead. They'll show up.
Fair farewell. Farewell, inferior tech
liners.
>> Church admission. Oh my god. Um,
>> I mean, you've heard you've heard me say
that if you guys catch it on camera, you
have to you have to monetize it, right?
>> I have. I was actually I was talking to
someone about that surprisingly
recently, and I I uh
Yeah,
I I was like, you know, he said that
before. I don't know if he still feels
that way or not. So, I guess you do.
>> Do it. I mean, how like we got
everyone's got to get their severance
and everything. if for whatever reason
we can't keep going without me, right?
You got to you got to milk it. Milk it
as good as you can, as long as you can.
And then when I'm when it's over, it's
over. And it was it was a wonderful ride
while it lasted,
man. Okay. Sorry. Uh Katsune Lane in
full chat said, "Luke's dedication to
Lionus is a W show delivered live from
beside his coffin." That would be so
depressing
because it would be so long.
>> Open casket. I hope
>> I'd have to sit there. I'd have to sit
there like open casket for like 4 hours.
Oh my god.
Oh,
>> here. Practice.
>> I can't even. Hold on one second. You
got to
Oh,
>> how long could we keep the streak alive?
I mean, would you would you would you
bring would you bring my ashes and put
them put them next to you? You and you
and Dan can just do the Wan show and
just put put me on the shelf.
>> I Yeah, I think
>> from the N show.
>> It's just the sponsor spots. the sponsor
spots can just go to like a earn camera.
>> We could uh we could make the lid go up
and down like the Canadians on South
Park.
>> If anybody sends a if anybody sends a
comment that's a direct question for me,
you could just like you could just cut
to my camera and
then just we'll leave it there for a bit
and then cut back and keep going.
>> Awkward silence.
The one thing, the one place I draw the
line though is no LLM resurrection of
me. I am one of the people on earth who
would be relatively easy to to LLM in
honestly a pretty accurate fashion,
>> but I don't consent to that. I don't
approve of that. Um, so so I'll just on
the on the urn camera, I'll just have to
like flap the lid of the urn to pretend
you're talking and just
>> Yeah.
>> try to
>> You have to puppeteer your voice.
>> You can even do the voice. Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.
>> I don't know who outside of Dbrand would
accept those ad spots.
>> I mean Dbrand would do it. If Dbrand's
still around,
>> they they would do it.
Yeah,
>> I can find out.
>> Also, laughing about
flapping your urn. I'm I'm in a rather
public place. Uh just so viewers of the
show know, I'm at um Lee Hua Hong. I
I've I've featured this place a couple
times. There was one time somewhere
around 10 years ago in the desk and
internet cafes video that I I featured
this place. And then um there was also
a short a little while ago, but I needed
a good internet connection.
>> Mhm.
>> So I was like uh we were having some
issues with hotels and their internet
connections, so we just decided to do
the show from here. Um and people can
definitely hear me.
>> Nice. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. My
rep's typing. There's a robot. There's a
robot typing.
I said you would sponsor wrapping my
earn, right? Yeah, I'll schedule it,
too. Classic.
>> Yeah, not not surprised.
>> Yeah, that checks out. I mean, they've
tried to kill me enough times, sending
me packages full of broken glass and
whatnot.
>> I got a comment.
>> Maybe that's why they're just annoyed
they haven't been able to do that type
of an ad spot yet. They've been waiting
for so long.
>> Oh man.
All right, we should probably jump into
our next topic here. Uh, th this is on
the surface kind of cool. You can
apparently just tell your Instagram
algorithm what you want. Now, Instagram
is expanding its your algorithm feature
to the main feed, letting you directly
tell the app what you want to see. It
shows you a list of topics Instagram
thinks you're interested in based on
your activity. And you can add topics
that you want or remove ones that you
don't. Changes will carry across real
explore and now the main feed since it's
all one system. It started in the US and
is rolling out globally in English.
Instagram head Adam Missouri framed this
as fixing a one-sided relationship. The
system learns from what you tap and
watch, but you've never been able to
just tell it what you want. He credits
large language models for making it
possible since older ranking systems ran
on data that no human could read, while
LLMs can now sort content into plain
language topics. For now, it is limited
to topics, but Instagram says that
controls for specific people, moods, and
content types are coming.
I mean, I think it's a good thing.
>> It It seems like what it always like
should have had the ability to do. I I
recognize the I guess the the challenges
around like metadata and tagging and and
like how manual something like that
could be. Um I can see how LLMs could
help with that. But also, I mean, we've
spent 90% of the show so far talking
about how fundamentally flawed they are
and how often they make mistakes.
Uh,
this is I
this will be abusable. I don't know if
there will be a reward in abusing it,
but this feels like the it is going to
be susceptible to like Spider-Man and
Elsa style issues. For people that don't
understand that reference, kids YouTube
years ago was taken over by some really
weird content um of people like
cosplaying as Spider-Man and Elsa and
other characters and doing some weird
stuff that you wouldn't really expect to
be on the kids side of YouTube. Um but
it it got there because of
the framing of the video and I could
imagine that something similar could
happen in this type of system. Um, I
think the reward is
>> I mean the reward of Spider-Man and Elsa
>> was just
>> was always
>> AdSense.
>> Well, I guess yeah, AdSense. So maybe
yeah, more reward than for just getting
views on Instagram, but there's also the
there's also the reward of just getting
clout and building up followers on
Instagram. Social media accounts are
worth money. Um,
>> yeah,
>> and especially, you know, with
automation tools, the the ability to to
create accounts to abuse these systems
to grow to some threshold to then be
farmed off to, you know, scammers who
need plausible looking Instagram
accounts or, you know, whatever the
model is. I I often find myself very
surprised by the things that scammers
will come up with. Like there was that
recent one where there was that like
warehouse of consoles that was farming
like FIFA card packs or something. I
can't remember the exact details of it.
I'm not a I'm not a FIFA guy. Dan, do
you remember?
>> Oh, okay. I just assumed you were into
football being an English person and all
of that.
>> Oh, cricket like a normal person.
>> Got it. That makes sense.
>> I don't go outside.
>> Uh yeah, I remember that topic. I don't
remember the specific details. I think
it was like farming throwaway matches
basically in order to get uh pack
openings, like free generating pack
openings. I don't know why that benefits
them or anything, but yeah, it's it's
interesting. I I can't necessarily
imagine how you would abuse this. It
just feels to me uh how an LLM would
view this content
is probably abusable in some way. I
don't know what to what end, but it
feels like it probably would be. Um, I
also don't know like what kind of
they're even saying you can sort by
moods, which is interesting. So, like is
it is it doing the Lionus maneuver and
is it reading the comments? Um, so could
could you manipulate this setup by
convincing your audience somehow to all
comment in a particular way? Um, I don't
know. This almost feels like something
like Spiffing Brit should dive into,
although he seems to just do YouTube
stuff. um
>> beast.
>> Yeah, but it'd be interesting. I mean, I
I like the idea
of being able to more manually control
our feeds. I I I also respect Lionus'
dedication to keeping his Facebook
Marketplace weird as heck. Um but I I if
if I could just tell Facebook
Marketplace that I want it to show me
weird things, that would also be nice.
Um
>> yeah, like one thing
>> I think this is good. One thing I've
wanted from YouTube for a long time is
the ability to tell them what my video
is about a little bit because they can
mostly figure that out on their own. But
what I really want is to tell them who
it's for. Because remember remember way
back when you made uh here I'm actually
just going to pull up the video. Uh come
on
here. This one
>> you might be able to imagine. Oh, for
crying out loud.
This one right here.
>> Installing a video card. How to
>> basics on Lionus Tech Tips 10 years ago.
>> This video got absolutely dogpiled out
of the gate.
>> Hated it. People were like actually
pissed when they launched.
>> So angry. and and and it there was
momentum around it because that was back
when the like dislike ratio was visible
publicly. So people
>> it was very negative
>> saw that people hated it and then they
piled onto it even more and it it
created this like like death spiral
spiral of hatred and negativity around
this video and
if you actually just you know watch the
video you don't say anything wrong.
Hold on. Is it?
>> Yeah, it was it was people hated it just
because it was beneath most of the
average viewers of LT
>> at the time.
>> Um, yeah, it it wasn't that the
information was incorrect. It's just
that they were like,
>> "It's a graphics card, bruh."
>> Yeah, you just put it in.
>> But I I'm pretty sure we included things
like dduing your drivers and like stuff
like that. Like I think it was I think
it was like decently
>> No, you did a good job
>> presented at the time.
>> You did a very good job. It was it was
lambasted because it hit the wrong
audience like you're kind of saying.
>> Exactly. So, what I've been asking
YouTube for is the ability because
because what's happened is we've kind of
our channel has kind of Michael Bay
itself because we can't just make a
video on installing a CPU anymore
because what's going to happen is it you
bumped your mic. Careful. Uh what's
going to happen is it's going to jump
into the feed of everyone from someone
who subscribed to LTT yesterday to
someone who subscribed to LTT 17 years
ago. And these folks, your your regular
viewers are going to feel like like
patronized and they're going to feel
like this is a complete and utter waste
of time. And what tends to happen is
algorithmically YouTube will kind of go,
well your channel is about, you know, X
and the people who are interested in X
don't like this. Therefore, this is
probably bad content. But what I would
actually really like is the ability to
tell YouTube, hey, this video is not for
my regulars. This is not
>> This was a new viewers like only
basically
>> and I'm okay with that resulting in it
potentially doing worse, especially out
of the gate, but I don't want it to
massively negatively affect the
long-term potential of the video by it
nuking a bunch of potential views on
people who would never click on it. Cuz
like if you know if someone's in flow
plane chat or or they've just been you
know I I'll meet people at events all
the time that are like I've been
watching since the NCIX days. like,
"Bro, you know how to install a GPU."
>> Exactly.
>> Like, it's you don't you don't need
this.
>> Um, the the vast majority of people who
have watched more than, you know, one to
three LT videos or or realistically any
other uh computer hardware tech videos
on YouTube, um, isn't going to need a
video on how to install a GPU. But that
doesn't mean that a bunch of people
don't need that. Um,
>> so here's another great example. the
first time you've ever built a computer.
If you just spent a bunch of money on
hardware and you want to build the
computer for the first time and you
don't have an inerson mentor, you want
to make sure that you don't ruin this
incredibly expensive component as you
put it into your computer, you might
want to watch a little video on how to
install it.
>> Yeah. And so we we wanted this was that
was supposed to be a series. That's why
the title is appended with this how-to
basics. I had in my mind that I wanted
to create three sort of series of like
to really get back down to tech tips and
do like how to basics which was kind of
a like a play on how to basic which was
like kind of a viral thing at the time
and then I wanted how to intermediate
and like how to advanced. So we would do
these tutorials on everything from
installing a graphics card to like you
know reconfiguring uh ports on your
router to uh you know setting up a
setting up a a NAS with you know
multiple tiers of high speed and low
speed storage and we'd kind of we'd kind
of segment them out and just create
these like very evergreen guides. you
know,
>> sorry,
>> the reception to it was so negative that
we did a couple of them and we kind of
went, well, holy crap, we can't we can't
do this. And then ultimately, years
later, that like dislike ratio actually
totally turned around and the video now
has, you know, 2.3 million views. But
that's not nearly as many as it probably
would have if it hadn't had its growth
stunted right at the beginning there.
>> Yeah. It's you, you know what's kind of
interesting is I've heard that the
youngans these days um to to go back to
a previous topic actually also hate
Google search now. Uh like Google search
just sucks these days. The the results
are terrible and the AI search is worse
than the auto stuff that they had in the
past. Like it's just Google search is
just going completely down the hole. Um,
but a lot of the youngans are using like
Tik Tok for search,
which
>> hurt my brain a lot when I first heard
it. Um, but apparently it's because
they're they're using it in the way that
a lot of us probably use YouTube, which
is where we we look it up like, you
know, how do I fix my washing machine
>> or whatever.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, here's a weird question. Someone in
someone in chat said that you can
Instagram has like a trials feature
where it won't send it to your
subscribers or something. I I lost the
message. Uh Andrew Candy, Instagram can
kind of do this with trial reels. It
doesn't send them to your followers. I
don't know exactly how that works, but
maybe the how-to basics series, maybe
with a different name, not sure, could
return, but in shorts format. I could
see potential there.
>> This card, but the the shorts version,
how to install RAM, but the shorts
version.
>> It can also even work in long form
though. Uh here, Dan, I'm just going to
see if my laptop is working. Oh, yeah.
There we go. So, I'm on my uh I'm on my
daily driver here. So, I'm logged in.
So, here's an example of one that kind
of shows
how bad this can be. Uh so we we we
uploaded uh like just building a PC you
know just a build guide
>> for the first time in like ages. So
first day performance of this video was
458,000 literally half of the upper end
of our typical range like absolute
bombed out of the gate. And then
eventually
the algorithm figured out, oh, okay,
yeah. Oh, this is a highquality video
that just the subscribers to this
channel were not interested in.
Now it's more than double the high-end
of your typical range. And just, you
know, daily as the English- speakaking
world awakens and slepts and awakens
again, it just gets views. Um,
but it would be really, but it doesn't
always work out that way. So, right, the
other one that I was going to pull up
was Riley did a $1,000 gaming PC. So,
here we'll go back to Linus laptop. This
one also bombed out of the gate in spite
of the very likable Super Riley and then
never found that audience. And you know
what? Maybe we just, you know, maybe
just didn't, you know, work. Maybe a
$1,000 guide was not as good as a $2,000
guide. Whatever. I don't know the exact
answer to why one of them went and one
of them didn't. But I've I've been
telling Google for years. I would just
love to be able to just tell you. I can
tell you. I know who it's for. And as a
as a variety channel, it's something
that we've struggled with our entire
existence. And I think we struggle with
more and more now where one video on our
channel one day is touring a data center
and then the next day is like tearing
down the walls of the tech house so that
we can run conduit and and low voltage
wiring and then the next day is a review
of a steam controller. like we're all
over the place. And I have I have
noticed that algorithmically they just
don't know what to do with us compared
to a channel that is more more
predictable. Uh like even within the
tech niche, there's other channels that
are more predictable in terms of their
their tone from one video to the next.
And I'd love to be able to just say,
"Hey, this is for people that are super
into biohacking or, you know, this is
for people who are really into, you
know, enterprise hardware, you know,
whatever right?"
>> But I can't.
>> Yeah.
>> There's breaking anthropic news, by the
way, that we should probably acknowledge
because chat is gloating.
>> I'm working on that right now. Um
>> basically they issued a statement um
>> the US government shut them down.
>> Statement on the US government directive
to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos
5.
Um
yeah, citing national security
authorities, the US government has
issued an export control directive to
suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos
5 by any foreign national, even those
inside the United States, including
anthropic employees.
Uh
so
>> this feels like
Yeah. To ensure compliance, they have
just turned Fable 5 and Mythos 5 off
for everyone.
>> Uh, this Dan Dan pointed this out in
full chat. Uh, but this is probably the
best marketing anyone on the entire
planet could have asked for. But I
actually think this might be hilariously
the whole marketing angle might not be
the goal that the US government wanted
because I suspect they are still in a
bit of a tiff over when Anthropic stood
up to them a little while ago. Um, and
with with the IPOs coming soon, I
suspect this might have been uh an
attempt to hold them back actually. But
I think just like last time, this is
ultimately going to be just like an
insane marketing move. Uh, promoting the
absolute heck out of anthropic. Um,
the the the including internal employees
thing is is wild. We we had um Conrad,
the the guy who makes LT store. Yeah. In
regards to development, um was in chat
earlier saying he used Fable 5
personally um and said I I don't I don't
want to misquote. I don't remember
exactly what he said, but he said very
positive things about it. Um
very interesting. Honestly, um
the Frontier models that are coming out
right now are pretty nuts. Um
yeah, Mari squared in fulloint chat said
not me currently using Fable 5 to
rewrite a whole platform. Um
yeah wild
wild
in in before uh US citizens start
reselling uh their their access to Fable
5 to foreign nationals. Um,
>> yeah.
>> If only there was if only there was some
technology that could make it so that
you could appear as though you were in a
different region than you were. If only
there was some way to pay for things
with a, you know, US bankisssued payment
method. If like this, I don't know how
they could possibly hope to to enforce
this once they actually do reenable
Fable 5. Yeah, that's what I was going
to say is like I I don't think it's
going to be as simple as as a VPN, which
is why they actually shut it down.
>> No, but you will but you'll need but it
won't someone will overcome it. This
ain't going to be impossible to overcome
no matter what.
>> At the very least, I suspect it's going
to be people individually reselling API
key usage um somehow. But it's yeah,
wild wild. Verified US ID requirements
incoming. Maybe. Yeah.
>> Okay. I'm not going to say who said
this, but somebody said, "I got a notice
on a litigation hold on all
communications about anthropic. M DoD
employee."
I mean, I think you mean DOW.
Um, but yeah, for now DoD.
>> I've I've heard I've heard the
Department of War thing
isn't official. They just call it that.
No, but it's it like went looking like
probably official today or yesterday or
something. Yeah,
>> got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Um I I
don't I don't know what's going on with
that, but thought that was kind of
funny. Has to be approved by Congress.
Okay. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um yeah, wild situation. Absolutely wild
situation. I I think like um I don't
know if we've talked about it on W show
or not um but but PewDiePie's video on
Odysius.
>> Yeah.
>> Um
it's it's you know we've talked about
PewDiePie a few times over the years on
W show. Uh this is not one of the ways
that I expected to be talking about
PewDiePie, but he has been
doing incredible things when it comes to
locally hosted AI and Agentic stuff. and
his video on Odysius uh his his project
uh which he has open sourced um has 3
million views now. And you know we
talked about this last show but u you
know local models are not are not
necessarily you know brushing shoulders
with these frontier models. Um,
>> no, but they're right now,
>> but they are very useful. And I really
think the in the same way that with with
the whole operating system debate right
now, my solution is to very happily just
dual boot on both of my systems. I'm
dual booting on my laptop, I'm dual
booting on my desktop, and I'm very
happy. Um, I think the like prime
solution for me at least is going to be
using both. um saving your API costs on
something big and heavy and powerful
like uh Fable 5 or or any other like
crazy frontier model because you know in
two weeks it'll probably be something
else that's in the lead. Um and then for
most of your
honestly probably most of your work but
it really depends on who you are and
what you're doing. Um, you can use local
models in order to
>> just like your your just dumb [ __ ]
like what's the
>> what's the weather going to be tomorrow
just to to interact with, you know, your
your DIY Google Home that doesn't
actually communicate with Google's
servers. Uh, like that that cute little
robot thing that Nick Harris from the
lab had in his AMD ultimate tech
upgrade. Like paying for tokens to run
something like that to turn your lights
on and off is cra would be crazy.
And
>> yeah, there's no need to
>> and you Yeah, you just don't need to
because a local model can handle the
voice to text can can can handle the
natural language interaction just fine
today. Uh
>> there was that guy in chat who said they
were they were using uh Fable to rewrite
an entire system and it's like okay.
>> Yeah. Um
>> you're not doing that on your RTX 3070.
>> Uh yeah, okay, sure. um you you you can
you can do quite a bit with local models
and and it might do pretty well. But
>> yeah, Atomica says Quinn 3.6 is
phenomenal
>> and that happens to be uh that was
actually one of the first things that
Nick Harris asked when we were meeting
with Nvidia at Computex was okay neat
impressive demo you what are you guys
using and Quen 3.6 came up like
immediately. Uh it seems like it's just
basically beloved right now for anyone
who wants to run local AI.
>> Yeah, it's uh there there's a lot of
different things. If you're if you're
scared of running stuff, again, I would
I would highly recommend watching the
PewDiePie video, but he talks about a a
part of the Odysius system called
cookbook, uh where it helps inform you
based on your system hardware, uh what
what you can run. So, if you're like,
"What the heck is a what the heck is a
Quen?" um it can it can kind of handle
those portions for you or at least
majorly simplify it. But yeah, the the
local hosting stuff is was incredibly
interesting and is now
taken a massive leap forward in how
interesting it is and the Frontier
models keep being mind-bogglingly
insane. Um and it's it's quite quite the
time for uh terrible things to happen.
Um,
yeah. Anyways, topic move on.
>> Oh, uh, no, it's time for us to do our
creator warehouse announcements. This
week, we are launching a pretty fun one.
I am legitimately super excited about
this one. Okay, hold on. Hold on. It's
time to hopefully not have a classic
Wancho nip slip here. Okay.
Oh, shoot. I still have my mic on. Uh,
okay. First up is the map of Siberia
t-shirt. It is a fully handustrated
fantasy map where someone replaced all
the kingdoms with things like
>> the great firewall
is of when and the cryptocurrency.
Get it? Cryptocurrency.
>> That's pretty good.
>> Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to go to the
uh to the Lionus cam. Uh this is got to
be Oh man, you guys can't Okay, you know
what? I'm just going to have to I'm just
going to have to pull it up on the site.
Um
>> uh yeah, I I'll bring it up on the site.
I'll bring it up on the site. Uh I I
have to give Lisa from the CW team like
the vast majority of the credit on this
one. this. She spearheaded this and just
oh, I don't know when it happened, but
she just like figured out our vibe as a
company, our audience at some point.
>> Pirate Bay
>> and it culminated or maybe she's still
cooking. Maybe she maybe she hasn't
reached the peak yet, but oh my god, the
leg access point. You have got to be
kidding me.
>> That is the funniest [ __ ]
>> Control + C is really good. I like that
one.
>> Yeah,
the poisoned cash
>> port 80
>> network bridge.
Of course, this had to be there. This is
This is This is quite informed actually.
>> Right.
>> The bits.
>> That's cool.
>> The bites.
I asked her. I was like, "Are do the
bites have exactly eight times the land
mass of the bits?" And she was like,
"Don't overthink it." I'm like, "Okay,
all right. Fair fair enough, Lisa. All
right. All right. I guess
>> Hold on a second. I got
>> the data
>> 27032."
>> Oh, interesting.
>> Interesting. Don't don't don't worry
about it. Don't worry about it. Um,
absolutely
absolutely incredible design. Super
cool.
>> Are these up right now?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. I didn't see a link in the doc.
>> Map of Siberia.
>> Oh, I see. There it is.
>> T-shirt available now in regular and
tall. So, make sure you guys are getting
in there. Oh, we don't have a lot of
tall units in the uh the XL's, double
XXLs, and triple XL's, at least on the
global site. And great photo shoot as
always. This has to be Tynen.
There's no way this isn't Tynen. It's
Tynen. No, it's Dan.
>> That's me.
>> Did Did you borrow T? Okay, this one's
Titan.
>> The ones outside are Tynen. Yeah.
>> Okay.
Amazing. I know he's into that stuff. I
didn't know you were. Did you borrow his
stuff?
>> Uh, it was actually somebody else's
stuff.
>> Oh, really?
>> There was some other guy who lent us a
set of armor.
>> Oh, that's super cool. Um,
>> hold on one sec. Am I Am I getting this
correctly? The olive one has the large
map on the front,
>> but the black one has the small logo on
the front, the large map on the back.
>> Yeah. So, we couldn't decide uh we
couldn't decide whether to do olive or
black or the here, if I switch over to
the black, you'll see this one has the
map on the back and then it has the uh
just the cloud kingdom on the front. So,
we kind of tried both and we'll kind of
see what people are more into.
I'm not going to spoil anything by
saying who thought which way, but uh
they're they're both really cool designs
and
>> I'm so interested how the sales of this
go. I I'm so interested because I've
always personally like I I think this
shirt is wicked. I'm going to try, if
there isn't one sitting there for me
already, I'm going to try to get the the
black one in XL tall. But, um, the
reason why I'm going to get the black
one is because I always love the, um,
the small logo over the heart with Is
that Is that my size?
>> Sorry, it's a medium.
>> Darn it. Uh, I always really like the
small logo over the heart and then the
big thing on the back of the shirt.
That's always my favorite shirt design.
But I'm wondering
is that is that just a me thing or is
that
>> No, it's a lot of people thing. But we
also felt that the way that this design
doesn't pop as like Okay, here.
>> No, I agree. That is a good point.
>> Like this is a lot to wear on the front.
This is actually not as much.
>> Yeah. No, I I agree. It's very
interesting. Yeah.
>> And it's also not like a huge logo. Um
if if it was a massive like your entire
torso Linus Tech Tips logo.
>> Yeah,
>> that would it probably kind of suck.
>> But instead, it's like a cool design
full of fun little Easter eggs and stuff
like it's
>> and there's the you know there's the the
shirt that must not be named uh that
doesn't exist anymore. Um and that had a
big logo on the front. Sleep is fories.
>> No, it was released very recently and
then taken away.
>> Oh. Oh, that one.
>> Yeah, that had a big logo on the front
and that looked really sick as well. So,
like it's obviously not a hard and fast
rule.
>> So, I am interested because just like
you said on the olive one,
>> it it does it kind of works. Um,
>> and um,
>> uh, well, one that I do have an XL tall
here for you is this one was our best.
>> See, that also works.
>> This was our bestselling t-shirt in a
long time. Um,
>> so it's really not a hard and fast rule.
It's just like a generalization that I
prefer that setup.
>> But like I wouldn't that pirate one
>> if you just had a little parrot. It's
not showing up on camera. If you just
had a little parrot here and then the
back said that,
>> I don't think that would be better. Um,
>> no, I don't think that one would quite
work. So, this is like
>> kind of depends.
>> We've been kind of trying to find our
stride um on like the t-shirt designs
over the last little while. Um, like I
think we had um I don't want to get too
deep into like sort of the the internal
stuff, but you guys might have noticed
that whether it's sourcing the blanks or
whether it's having designs ready or
whether it's having both of those things
at the same time, um, we we haven't
really focused on t-shirts for like
a couple of years at this point. Whereas
it used to be that like every other
freaking Wand show we were announcing
another t-shirt and t-shirts were like a
big part of LTT store and then for a
long time they basically haven't been.
But um I think over this last couple
like I I obviously haven't seen any
sales figures for this one yet but I
love it. Uh the design team freaking
loves it. Like we love it so we're
really confident in it. But as you can
see, we're still kind of mixing it up in
terms of, okay, do we do little thing on
the front, big thing on the back, big
thing on the front? Like, what's the,
you know, what's our what's our current
meta going to be? So, we're going to
we're going to let you guys
>> ultimately decide that.
>> Um,
>> it's very interesting. It's I I'm I'm
specifically interested in the sales of
this one with my little I like the small
logo thing. Um, because I think this one
is a strong example of the big image on
the front being cool. Yeah. Um,
>> so it's it's it's like a a good test.
Um, both are cool, I think.
>> And but wait, there's more.
>> Where is it? There's also Oh, our new
arrivals could probably stand to be
cleaned out a little bit. Whoops.
>> A desk pad. Is that what you're talking
about?
>> Yeah. So, there's also a desk pad. How
fun is that? Available in three
different sizes. It's 900 mil by 400
mil, 300 mil, or 600 mil depending on
your preference. All the same price as
you've come to expect from LTT store.
Hello from LTT store. It also looks
extremely striking. Great quality
printing. Got this here. Map of Siberia
desk pad. Oh, it's Luc is there. Oh,
yeah. There you go. Freaking awesome.
And of course, nice high quality
deskpad. natural rubber stitched etches,
etc., etc. Stitch etches. Stitched
edges. What you would expect from us,
man. They've been having way too much
fun at these photo shoots lately.
>> And that's a good thing. One of what?
>> Oh, really? Unless it's not on there. I
didn't see that one. Sorry, Dan. I
didn't see it. Anyway, those are our new
launches for this week and you can check
them out at lmg.gg/cyiberia,
which is spelled like cyber
and then I A.
Um, and it's a perfect time to pick one
up because we're live, which means that
you can send a comm.
We might need to change the name again.
Well, whatever. For now, they're called
checkout messages coms. And the way that
they work is all you got to do is fire
up LTT store, add something that catches
your eye to your cart, boop boop, view
your cart, and in the checkout, you can
type up a message. It'll go to producer
Dan. There he is. Who will respond to it
or just like pop it up on the stream if
it's just like a shout out for someone
or he will curate it for me and Luke to
respond to. Uh Dan, do you want to hit
us with a couple of coms? Sure thing.
Lionus, your 40th level is coming up. Do
you plan on celebrating it in a special
way? How about writing a biography or
even an autobiography? I'd read a
success story. Also, more non-black
t-shirts, please. Um, I'm flattered, but
I
am
not planning to write an autobiography.
I I started making notes like a couple
times for something like that and then I
just have not had the time to do it
slashh
I don't know I don't maybe maybe I've
just been maybe I've just not thought
about it the right way cuz I was I was
really surprised when I found out that
someone as private as Linus Torvalds had
written an autobiography and when I
asked him about it um he basically was
just like well try anything once
including
write an autobiography apparently cuz
he's a really modest guy and that didn't
really he's a really modest really
private guy and that didn't really align
with write an autobiography
but the writer actually talks about this
in the autobiography um or I guess it's
not really an autobiography but it's
like it's got a lot of autobiographical
elements but also a lot of observations
from the author. It's kind of like a a
mish mash of both. Um, and the writer
actually talks about the process by
which he convinced Torvalds to do it.
Um, so maybe I don't know, maybe I just
haven't heard the right pitch from a
ghost writer. I also just don't think
I'd be comfortable with a ghostriter
writing it. I feel like I should write
my own thing. I literally people ask me
like, "What do you do?" And more than
anything else, I think more than a host,
um, I I think my greatest contribution
to LTT is is writing. Uh, I don't think
people realize how much of what is done
at Lionus Media Group has been touched
at some point by my pen. Um, not all of
it.
>> It's all of it.
>> It's not all of it.
>> Every single mistake.
>> Thank you.
>> It's all Lionus.
>> Thank you for that.
>> Even if it's just a Labs article that
doesn't have him credited, if there's a
mistake in it, it was Lionus. If there's
not a mistake in, it was someone else.
All right.
>> Anyways, uh
>> did I answer the question? I don't
remember and I I'm having a hard time
logging into the dashboard.
>> No, I think that's probably good enough.
>> All right, cool. Good chat.
>> Hey, DL. What's the most recent book
you've read or are currently reading?
>> Oh,
um what did I pick up recently?
>> Trying to remember. I read Breakfast
with my a little while ago, but that was
a while ago. I think I read something
more recently than that.
>> I'm second here.
>> I've I've reverted to my teenage state
and I've been uh I've been reading old
Foxtrot collections during my midnight
snack breakfast cereal lately. So,
that's been that's been fun. I love
Foxtrot.
>> Fun.
>> I actually had no idea he still
publishes Sunday strips online. Shout
out Bill.
Um, man, there's no way to go sort by
recent. My goodness.
I will find it. Give me a second.
>> He's looking up Dan in the meantime.
Read any good books lately?
>> I've still got most of The Prince to
finish off.
>> Um,
>> what?
>> I read it back in college and it was
like
>> it was brutal and it's still brutal.
reminds me a lot of the world right now.
>> Have you um Have you read it, Linus?
>> No, I haven't.
>> Yeah, you can have my other copy if you
want. It's um it's bad. It's hard. It's
hard to read,
>> huh? What a what a sales pitch.
>> It should be read, I think, by a lot of
people but
>> Okay, that's a better pitch. You should
lead with that.
>> The prince is good.
Um,
>> holy crap. You know what, Lionus? I can
give you something fun. Oh, there it is.
Um, Tough and Competent by Eugene F.
Crayons.
>> Tough and Competent.
>> Is that Is is that your autobiography?
>> No, but thank you. Um,
yeah. Uh Jean CR was uh the second uh
chief flight director for NASA.
>> He looks tough and competent.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Um but I I haven't actually
started it. Uh but I have it and I'm
excited.
>> That's the first step.
>> One small step for Luke's
reading list.
>> Yeah. Um, but okay, this is okay. I
guess is that that question done?
>> I'm excited to show you something. And I
keep trying to jump to it and then
realizing that I'm skipping the topic
we're currently on. Sorry.
>> Uh, this is not an ad. I don't know if
these guys have ever sponsored us or
not. So, my bad if they have, I don't
know, whatever. But, um, and I can't
send you a link to this super easily,
but if you just want to Google it,
you've probably already seen it. But um
8bit do ultimate three mode controller
Xbox. They have a 8bit do Xbox
controller that is translucent green.
Have you seen this?
>> Uh I thought you would like it.
>> Three mode. Oh, nice. That looks sick.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's really interesting.
There's a bunch of I I don't know if
everyone just had the same thought at
the same time or what, but there's a
bunch of translucent products coming
out. You can see in the background
there, they have a keyboard. Um, yeah,
they have an 85% keyboard and a separate
10 key, which I think is super cool.
Those buttons tend to come with their
keyboard. Um, so I'm assuming that's the
case here as well. And then they also
have the mouse. And then they also have
the uh the Xbox controller. It's a sick
lineup of hardware actually.
>> That looks amazing. Officially licensed
by Xbox.
>> Awesome.
>> Supported by Apple, man. 8bit Dough has
just been crushed.
>> I believe they're Hall effect joysticks
or or or something. Um I lost the
>> Hall effect joysticks. Yep.
>> Yeah.
>> And the triggers are Hall effect linear.
>> Oh, nice. Okay. The triggers I wasn't
sure, but I was trying to find that.
Cool. Um and there's a switch on the
back to switch which kind of device
you're connecting it to and stuff. This
looks wicked. Um I I just I I don't
know. I'm just so stoked on translucent
products coming out. Um, I think it's
awesome. I love I'm so happy that it
seems like we're exiting an era of
everything just being either all black
or all white. Um, I'm so happy that some
color is entering products again and
that translucent and seeing the
interesting things inside the product is
becoming a thing again. I just think
it's so sick. Oh, dude. I um Okay, I had
a similar experience today. Uh I was
working on the LTT for uh Sony sent over
their 115in true RGB TV. So, it's uh
it's over in the theater room right now.
I I had to leave for WAN show, so I
didn't actually get to see it fire up
and watch content on it. I have to do
that on Monday. I have to wait the whole
weekend before I ah Anyway, that's not
the point. The point is, I was looking
at the remote and it's a black remote
and I was like, "Of course it's a
black."
No wait.
>> Translucent.
>> It No, no, it doesn't. It has It had
little uh like teal like flexcks in the
plastic like Do you remember our uh like
our RGB shirts how they had those little
like like uh
>> like those little color tufts in them?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It was cut. It was all one color,
but it was kind of like that. Like it
just had little color flexcks in it. And
I was like, how fun is that? And how
hard was that, you know, to bring back a
little bit of
color in our lives? I I just I thought
it was really cool. I thought it was a
nice little touch.
>> Yeah. I I think that might actually be
um a double benefit because I believe
that's often an appearance that comes
from recycled plastic.
>> Yeah.
Um, so it could be a recycled plastic.
>> It looks great.
>> Oh, I I think it looks fantastic. I
think it looks fantastic. Also, I didn't
know this was a thing, but just to to
be, you know, fair. Um, and I'm doing a
terrible job with tracking names today
by East One. Um, or Eastone
um posted in Flipline Chat. Xbox is also
releasing their own translucent green
Xbox controller. If you look up the Xbox
25th anniversary, um they have an Xbox
wireless controller X25 special edition
and it's a translucent translucent green
Xbox controller. Um
>> I'm a little confused about some of the
messaging that I hear coming out of Xbox
right now. Like on the one hand, they
need to rejuvenate their hardware
business, but then on the other hand,
they're saying things like how many
Xboxes they sell is gated by like
production capacity, not by like demand.
I just I'm I'm having a really hard time
reconciling that. I'm also I am also
recognizing that a lot of Xbox fans are
rooting for exclusives,
but I can't help but feel like if they
go full exclusive and they don't come to
PC that we are like we're sitting here
demanding reverse progress that is
actually regression.
Um, as someone who has never bought an
Xbox and who probably will never bother
to game on an Xbox, um, making games not
available for me to purchase on PC is
something that I'm going to have a hard
time rooting for. Uh,
>> the Xbox install base being as it is,
games being exclusive might just mean
their death.
Yeah,
but I also understand that like there's
it's a chicken and egg problem because
you're not going to get an install base
unless you give people a reason to buy
the console and it sure as heck isn't
going to be the Xbox first party
controller. Like what's it going to be?
>> I don't feel like it's going to be Gears
6 either. Um
or or whatever.
>> I mean, you weren't really like a Gears
kid though, right?
>> Not really. But
I feel I feel like Ooh, is this hot? Is
this a hot take?
>> Here comes the hot take.
>> I feel like Gears always played second
fiddle to Halo.
>> Well, yeah. I don't think that's a hot
take at all, sir.
>> And I don't feel like either series is
hot right now. So, what uh Halo Infinite
the second and Gears 6? Like, I don't
know. uh whatever whatever that thing
they're doing is with
uh
the the the first Halo that they're
recreating and they're making new
missions.
>> So
>> yeah, um I don't think that's going to
sell consoles either.
>> I was chatting with Poof about it
actually right before the show and he
was like super bearish on it and then
just saw the latest updates and he was
like, "Yeah, I'm psyched now.
I haven't actually I haven't seen it,
but apparently it looks great
>> like visually,
>> but then also, didn't they have one of
the old Bungie guys come out and pretty
much say like, yeah, it looks great, but
it doesn't look like Halo Combat
Evolved. So,
I'm and I'm paraphrasing, I'm basically
an AI right now. Disclaimer, what I said
might not be attributable to anyone.
>> I'm basically an AI right now is a
hilarious line. Um,
the three new missions is interesting
and stuff. I
>> don't trust me, bro.
>> All I'm saying I'm not saying it doesn't
look interesting. All I'm saying is I
don't know if it's a console seller. Um,
I don't know what Microsoft has right
now that would be a console seller.
People really like Fors Horizon 6.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. They also dropped Japan, which has
been a location that people have been
looking for in Fors Horizon for a long
time. So, they just dropped their like
ace up their sleeve
>> before it could be an exclusive. Um,
I just spent, you know,
days driving switchbacks in Taiwan. They
could do one in Taiwan, but I I don't
think that's going to be as big of a
draw as Japan is for car culture,
obviously. Um,
I don't know. I don't I don't know what
game
Microsoft has up their sleeve. Oh, yeah,
I do. Okay.
I mean, if some new Xbox launches and
soon after the launch, Elder Scrolls 6
comes out and it's exclusive to
>> consoles, that'll move some consoles.
>> That'll move some cons. Well, assuming
it's not a
complete dumpster fire, it'll move
>> I think it'll still move some consoles,
honestly. It's just a question of how
many sir.
>> Yeah, totally. Yeah, exactly. Um, don't
curse us like that. Yeah, sorry. That's
a good point, but sorry. Um, happy 8th
birthday to the trailer of ES6. I didn't
believe that trailer for so long. I
thought it was fake. I thought it was a
fan edit. Uh, I didn't watch that game
show, whatever one it was announced in.
So, when I saw it go on YouTube, I I
legitimately thought it was just like a
fan edit. um and didn't believe it for
so long and then people were talking
about it like I think years later and I
was like wait what that was real
um that was wild. I can't believe that I
still can't believe they did that. Um
yeah I I don't think Oh man I I'm kind
of strongly of the opinion that it's
been it's been downhill since Morwind.
Um, but the peak of Morwind was so high
that the slope was still really, really
good. Um, but like Fallout 4,
even compared to Skyrim,
even compared to Oblivion, I think was
like a continual
down. Fallout 4 was still really fun. It
was a great game, but it felt like the
worst one out of those. I feel like as
someone who came into the series on
Oblivion,
>> it's tough and then tried to play
Mororrowind because Oblivion was so
great and I wanted more.
>> You can't go back. You You have to look
at Morowind in the time capsule of when
it was released.
>> Sure.
>> Um I'm not I'm not suggesting you go
back and play it now, but when it was
released, Morowind was an insane game.
Like there was
>> there was nothing like it. Um,
it it was wild. Um, and the the the way
that I'm describing this like downward
slope is basically like
um like the weapon systems were reduced
for Oblivion. The the you'd be you might
be surprised having played Oblivion, but
the magic system was was reduced for
Oblivion. Um things just got simpler and
simpler and simpler. Oblivion was a
fantastic game. I think I think in a lot
of respects you can say it was better
than Morwind but um
yeah under understanding the climate in
which Morwind released I I still think
Morowind's better if that makes sense.
Um
anyways and and Skyrim was a like
massive simplification of things as
well. Um
I don't know. I can understand people
might not agree with that argument, but
I do think especially beyond Skyrim,
Fallout 4 and
Fallout
76, I think is what it's called. Um, and
Starfields and some of the mobile games
that they did and things like that. It's
been
I don't know. I still don't think Elder
Scrolls 6 and I I talked big game about
how I thought Starfield was going to be
great. So, hey, maybe I'm going to be
terribly wrong again. Um, but I still
don't think
>> Can you still call yourself a Bethesda
fan?
Do you can you be fully rational and
logical about Bethesda or will you still
have naive hope in spite of all evidence
from the last 10 years
cuz I think that's the line right is is
>> that's tough though cuz like I did enjoy
Fallout 4. Um, I thought it was a lot
weaker than New Vegas and I thought it
was weaker than three again.
>> So, note that I said 10 years that it
launched,
>> Luke, I said 10 years.
>> I'm trying to remember.
>> Fallout 4 came out 11 years ago.
>> Jesus.
>> No, it didn't.
>> Yes, it
>> actually 10 and a half years.
>> No, it didn't. Shut up.
>> Holy crap. That
>> I just broke him. I broke him down. I'm
sorry.
>> You want to know something funny? You
know how I've like taken a break from
streaming for a long time?
>> I went through my most recent streaming
assets folder.
It's all Fallout 4 stuff. My taking a
break has been a decade. Oh my god.
Oh my god.
>> He's dying, Dan. Holy crap.
Okay. Um,
>> oh man. Should I break him again?
>> I How old is Mororrowind?
>> Oblivion. I know the Xbox.
>> Oblivion was 20 years ago.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz Xbox 360 like I
knew that one. For some reason, the gap
between
>> Oblivion and Fallout 4 seems so much
bigger than between Fallout 4 and now. I
don't know why that's true, but it feels
like it.
>> Um, okay. So the the question of the
last 10 years thing is is tough.
>> Yeah, it's tough.
>> Even even if we look like locally,
right? If we look at Landis Media Group,
like Landis Media Group looking five
years back is so much different in what
we're doing, who works here,
>> our capabilities are, all that kind so
different. Go back go back seven years,
>> completely different thing. Um,
so it's okay. It's been an incredibly
long time since Skyrim, but the only
mainline game that they've released in
that time. I don't I don't necessarily
think I believe 76 is a mainline game.
Is that fair to say?
I don't know.
>> This was meant to be kind of a yes or no
answer Luke.
>> Yeah. Sorry.
>> Are you still a fan of Bethesda?
Well, I I what I think I'm saying is I
can't conclusively say either way
because they haven't really released
anything in the series that I liked in
that period of time. They haven't
released a mainline Fallout game. They
haven't released a mainline Elder
Scrolls game. Those are the two games
that made me love Bethesda. So, I don't
think I can say
>> I I'm I'm going to still naively hold
out hope though. Okay, then it sounds
like you can still be at least a little
bit of a fan
>> cuz if you can naively hold out hope for
something. I think
>> I am reviews and buying ES6 day one
guaranteed cuz I I have to experience
it. I must there's no other like
>> I think that's the answer. I think
that's the answer then.
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>> All right, Luke, want to pick a topic or
two?
>> Uh, yeah, sorry. I was talking to Chad
about Bethesda things.
>> Oh my god.
>> Um,
>> definitely fan. Still a fan.
>> You got me started, bro. You got me
started. It's not my fault. Um,
>> yeah, let's do this one. We were talking
about AI stuff before we did the the
jump off topic section, so we'll go back
to it for some reason. Um, New York
State could ban data center development.
New York State has put a temporary hold
on any further data center development.
Governor Kathy
Ochel uh will have the final say and
must decide before December if the state
will enact a permanent ban on all data
centers that demand 20 megawws or more
of power. Uh as as a quote uh this is
one of the first times that we're really
drawing a line in the sand and saying
that as a state legislature we have the
responsibility to make sure New Yorkers
are in the driver's seat. uh said New
York Senator Kristen Gonzalez. And then
again to quote, "Big tech has been used
uh has been used to writing their own
rules or not having rules that they have
to play by, which is yeah, I mean, fair
enough." Um
I feel like Yeah, it's interesting. I
wonder what the
>> just for context a 20 megawatt data
center would be approximately 133 SpaceX
AI satellite data centers.
>> H
just throwing that out there.
>> That is pretty fun for context actually.
Um,
>> in case anyone was wondering why some
people are pushing back on the idea of
AI satellite data centers, um, it would
take 133 of those to build something
that's big enough that the state of New
York, it wants to ban it. Wants to ban
it.
Not the orbit of New York. Um,
yeah. Interesting. I'm trying to rack my
brain. What are the primary complaints
about data centers being near you?
There's power obviously. There's water
>> that it's pulling out.
>> Ugly.
>> Noise. I guess some people have
mentioned the really high pitch noise as
well.
>> Ugly. Y
>> I'm sure there's like ecological
destruction
>> cost. Uh so that's related to the power,
but also
>> the power cost thing. The power cost
thing feels solvable
>> um
>> by making the power for the data center.
I think part of it too much is like the
economic argument for data centers is
all the the jobs that they create, but
that's only while they're building them.
>> Um, once they're built,
>> yeah, they don't have much afterwards.
>> Modern data centers require very little
in the way of personnel compared to
while they are being constructed.
>> Um,
>> totally. So, it's one of those things
where when they talk about all the jobs
that like AI infrastructure is creating,
it's like, yeah, as long as we're
chasing infinite growth, then it will,
you know, continue to support those
jobs. But the second that there's a
cutback or bubble burst or the the
buildout is stalled, then they kind of
go away.
>> And it's it's worth noting actually. I
think there's it's man it's it's kind of
funny to kind of I I don't know I don't
have uh I don't think I've taken a
strong position either way on the the
building out of data centers and it's
really it's really interesting to see
both the good points that that both
sides of this issue make and also the
somewhat seemingly flawed points that
both sides make. Like there's uh there's
a lot of talk about the water
consumption of data centers. Um and
during construction that is that is like
super true. They use a ton of water. Um
but a big part of that is that it takes
a ton of water to like make concrete
construction. Um
like back when um uh back when I toured
u Intel's FAB, they were they were
showing me the site where they were they
were building like an extension to the
fab and they literally like this the
scale of these kinds of projects. They
had built their own concrete production
facility on site so that they could so
they could mix and then logistically
move around the concrete much more
efficiently. And like people don't
necessarily recognize like how much
[100:01] water that consumes, but once it's
[100:05] built, as long as they're not using
[100:06] evaporative cooling, which from my
[100:08] understanding is kind of going out of
[100:10] fashion. Uh
[100:12] >> my understanding, a lot of these data
[100:13] centers are using evaporative cooling.
[100:16] >> The newer stuff seems to be getting away
[100:19] from it, though. And so if they're not
[100:21] using evaporative cooling, then their
[100:24] ongoing water consumption is actually
[100:26] pretty low. Um,
[100:30] yeah, Cphilus says, "Building a concrete
[100:32] production facility is common in a lot
[100:34] of construction." Yeah, anytime you're
[100:35] doing a large scale project, it's like,
[100:37] gee, I don't know. Should I truck the
[100:39] concrete from there to here um in like
[100:42] cement mixers or should I just make
[100:45] everything here out of the raw
[100:47] materials?
[100:52] Uh Jlock said, "Nobody would have an
[100:54] issue with the power issues, water
[100:56] consumption, even noise, etc. if data
[100:57] centers are being used to solve medical
[100:59] mysteries, world hunger, major
[101:00] infrastructure engineering problems,
[101:02] etc., rather than for a few billionaires
[101:04] to spy on us and get even more rich."
[101:06] You are forgetting um funny AI cat
[101:10] videos though.
[101:12] >> Yeah. and also forgetting that a lot of
[101:15] people are using it to do legitimately
[101:18] useful things. Um,
[101:19] >> yep,
[101:21] >> including unfortunately Palanteer. Um,
[101:24] >> yeah, we talked about that early in the
[101:26] show. Palunteer again, classic stop
[101:28] clock is right twice a day. Palanteer
[101:30] did something good, but also scary
[101:32] because it's Palanteer.
[101:36] >> Porto says, "All is for good. All is
[101:38] forgiven. Cute cats."
[101:40] I don't know, man. I um it's always
[101:43] interesting for me to get boots on the
[101:46] real ground, you know, like talk to
[101:48] people who are outside of my bubble and
[101:50] especially don't take this the wrong
[101:52] way, Wan show viewers, like you guys are
[101:55] you guys are like dialed. You're the
[101:56] you're the LTT core, right? Um and it's
[102:00] always interesting for me to go outside
[102:01] of that bubble and talk to people about
[102:03] this stuff. I was playing badminton in
[102:04] Taiwan. Stop me if I told this story
[102:07] last week on Wow. Um, and I was just
[102:10] chatting with um with one of the one of
[102:12] the players at at the club and um he
[102:15] comes up to me. His English is pretty
[102:17] good and uh we've we've chatted a couple
[102:19] times over the years cuz I come back
[102:20] every year. So people tend to kind of
[102:23] they're like, "Oh yeah, that that white
[102:24] guy, right?" Um yeah, yeah, hi. It's me.
[102:26] Um but at some point he kind of put two
[102:30] and two together and he started like
[102:31] watching the channel. So now when I
[102:32] showed up he's like oh you know hey
[102:34] Lionus uh and he asked me he's like what
[102:36] are your thoughts on AI? And I'm like,
[102:37] well, that's a very broad um question.
[102:40] Um, you know, I think we're both here to
[102:43] play badminton, not talk about this for
[102:44] the next 3 hours, but um I'm going to
[102:47] uno reverse this. What do you think
[102:50] about AI? And he kind of goes, oh, well,
[102:53] like again, uh that's a very broad
[102:56] question. What specifically do you mean?
[102:57] And I'm like, well, like what do you do
[102:59] for work? You know, what do what do you
[103:02] use it for? What does your company use
[103:04] it for? you know, like someone boots on
[103:06] the ground just
[103:08] out there living their life, working,
[103:11] eating, sleeping, playing badminton. Um,
[103:14] I wanted to hear his perspective. And
[103:16] obviously, this is a sample size of one.
[103:20] But his response was really interesting
[103:22] to me. He's like, "Well, I I work in
[103:24] like data compliance." And I kind of go,
[103:26] "Oh, okay." You know, like what does
[103:28] that mean exactly? He's like, "Well, we
[103:30] provide services for things like um law
[103:33] offices and medical clinics and things
[103:35] like that." And I'm like, "Okay, yeah,
[103:36] that that gives me a pretty good idea of
[103:38] what you guys are up to." And um I'm
[103:41] like, "Okay, so like how would you say
[103:43] that, you know, AI has changed the way
[103:45] that you guys operate?" And he's like,
[103:47] "Well, we have about the same headcount
[103:49] as we used to, but our marketing
[103:52] department is completely gone. Um we
[103:56] deploy tons of code to production. that
[103:59] is overseen
[104:01] um but very much generated code. It has
[104:06] made us wildly more productive. So we
[104:10] have about the same headcount that we
[104:11] did before we started using it but our
[104:14] revenue and productivity is like
[104:16] massively up and um where where I kind
[104:20] of like I wanted to poke and prod at
[104:22] that a little bit right and I was like
[104:23] okay you know what does this mean for
[104:25] the maintainility
[104:26] >> measuring that too
[104:28] >> of these projects and like so you know
[104:30] oh yeah how do you measure that well you
[104:31] measure it in revenue you measure it in
[104:32] completed projects apparently it's like
[104:35] >> that's that's reasonable yeah I just
[104:37] yeah
[104:38] >> and uh and in terms of like like
[104:40] maintenance. He goes, you know, well,
[104:41] we're real software engineers, so like
[104:44] you know, we can do that. Um, but using
[104:48] this to like turbocharge our
[104:49] productivity and, you know, completely
[104:52] just eliminate entire departments
[104:56] um has been has been something that has
[104:59] been very I'm going to use finger quotes
[105:01] here, successful for them. And that
[105:06] perspective was like I said before, it
[105:08] was a sample size of one, right? So
[105:10] let's not treat it as anything deeper
[105:12] than what it is. But when I hear people
[105:16] say, and and this is this is a really
[105:18] common sentiment that shows up in our
[105:19] comments section, in our chat, wherever,
[105:21] that nobody wants this, I kind of go,
[105:25] okay, but that's not actually true.
[105:30] And I think we could argue all day
[105:33] about, you know, where on the spectrum
[105:35] the people who want it and appreciate it
[105:38] and enjoy it and use it and are and are
[105:40] benefiting from it versus the people who
[105:43] adamantly oppose it and and won't touch
[105:45] it. Like we we could kind of we can
[105:47] argue all day about sort of where that
[105:49] split is, right? Um but what is
[105:52] objectively not true is that either
[105:55] everyone is benefiting from it and they
[105:57] need to just get on board. That's not
[105:59] true. or nobody wants this. It's it's
[106:02] it's purely it's purely negative and
[106:05] nobody could benefit. That's also not
[106:07] true. And so I just am I'm still taking
[106:10] a very
[106:12] wait and see approach. Um we use it for
[106:17] some things internally. We've
[106:20] experimented a little bit more with
[106:22] using it externally. Um, I think that
[106:26] there's absolutely a value to
[106:29] specifically calling out when something
[106:31] is not AI like this. This mouse pad
[106:36] would have functionally no artistic
[106:40] value to me if a human hadn't drawn it.
[106:44] That doesn't mean it would be worthless.
[106:46] I think that someone probably would
[106:48] enjoy an AI generated desk pad if it was
[106:51] like, you know, cool and it they just
[106:53] liked it. They vibed with it. But for
[106:56] me, like this has has has an artistic
[107:00] value that is
[107:02] it's just hard to quantify. How do you
[107:04] quantify that, Luke? Can you quantify
[107:05] it?
[107:08] >> And how do you properly prove it? Um,
[107:12] >> oh that's sad.
[107:13] >> I think this is this is
[107:14] >> we've talked about this before
[107:16] >> like how cottage industry and like Etsy
[107:18] is going to have to move to like selling
[107:20] the live stream of you creating the art,
[107:22] you know,
[107:23] >> and then how do you prove that the live
[107:25] stream isn't AI generated as well. Um,
[107:29] then that that whole series gets gets
[107:31] really weird. But like something
[107:32] something I'm kind of running into is
[107:34] there was a game recently that said
[107:38] I don't know I think I think
[107:42] I think they said that they're using AI
[107:44] stuff for ideiation, but they're not
[107:46] going to have it in their finished game.
[107:48] And then they had some Oh man, this
[107:50] isn't a topic of the doc. I'm trying to
[107:52] go off the top of my head. They had some
[107:53] like playable demo
[107:56] and people found AI assets in the
[107:58] playable demo and the company's
[108:00] basically like, "Oh, like that that
[108:03] wasn't supposed to be there. We didn't
[108:05] like realize that was there. um we're
[108:08] going to try to figure out what happened
[108:09] or whatever. I I think employers
[108:14] aren't going to be able to even know if
[108:17] their employees are really using it or
[108:19] not.
[108:19] >> No.
[108:20] >> Um
[108:21] >> I wouldn't know if Dan was an AI right
[108:23] now.
[108:31] >> No response. Didn't move at all. Yeah,
[108:33] that would be pretty hard to tell. Uh,
[108:35] >> actually, I think an AI might have had
[108:36] less latency on it. So, I think he's
[108:38] probably a human.
[108:40] >> I'm not an AI, Lionus.
[108:42] >> That's actually a pretty damn good AI
[108:44] voice.
[108:46] >> Now, you got to do the like you're out
[108:47] of
[108:47] >> You can't ask me to do that. I can't uh
[108:50] I can't confirm or deny
[108:52] >> small language model.
[108:56] >> Um, but but yeah, it's like even if it's
[108:59] just for ideation, you can't necessarily
[109:01] control it. someone maybe they're on
[109:03] their lunch break and they're stuck on
[109:04] an issue and they they want to look good
[109:06] for their boss so they u AI brainstorm
[109:09] some junk on their phone like you can't
[109:11] um
[109:13] >> and it's funny even
[109:16] >> even very anti- AI people um are it's
[109:21] it's it's really interesting to watch
[109:22] the conversations about it because like
[109:25] we've experimented with using a little
[109:26] bit of AI generated stuff in our
[109:29] thumbnails recently
[109:30] >> I've seen that
[109:31] >> um This one was was sort of universally
[109:36] disliked for being uh AI AI core. Uh
[109:41] except that I actually this is an actual
[109:43] photo of me sitting on that manhole
[109:46] cover. Uh I actually don't know what Sam
[109:49] did with these uh with the with the uh
[109:51] the wires. Those weren't there. I'm not
[109:53] sure if he generated them or if he like
[109:56] put some other asset in there. Um,
[109:58] >> that sign wasn't there either.
[110:00] >> But, but what's funny is as much as
[110:03] people hated those wires,
[110:06] one person, as far as I can tell, one
[110:11] person noticed this.
[110:16] This has been up for a month.
[110:19] That's not me.
[110:22] >> I noticed that.
[110:23] >> Then two people did. my
[110:25] >> I'm not just trying to like be like,
[110:27] >> "Yeah, that's fine." My own wife, I
[110:29] asked her about this thumbnail and
[110:31] without prompting her, without like
[110:33] leading her, she basically just started
[110:36] talking about, "Oh, yeah, I I think
[110:38] it's, you know, the the monitor is cool
[110:40] or, you know, whatever, but didn't
[110:43] notice that I only have one earring in
[110:45] my left ear." Um, there's a Oh, didn't
[110:49] notice I didn't have braces.
[110:51] >> There's a couple little problems
[110:52] >> with your eyes. I don't know what it is,
[110:54] but there's something going on with your
[110:55] eyes that tells me something's off.
[110:56] >> Uh Sammy Sammy noticed it and was like,
[110:59] "Hey, what's up with this?" And I
[111:00] basically was like, "Yeah, it was an
[111:01] interesting it was an interesting
[111:04] experiment. A human still worked on it."
[111:06] So,
[111:06] >> you want to see something? Sorry.
[111:08] >> The AI Linus is AI, but actually the uh
[111:12] and the the cardboard is AI, but I
[111:15] believe the monitor um was um Sam's work
[111:20] and then the background is Sam's work.
[111:22] Um, so a human still like composited
[111:24] everything,
[111:25] >> but that's not that's not me. And very
[111:29] very few people noticed, which I thought
[111:32] was really interesting. That's it was I
[111:35] had a long conversation with Sammy about
[111:36] it cuz he's like, "Look, I like is this
[111:38] our direction? Are we just going to stop
[111:40] taking pictures of you and just just
[111:42] generate you?" I'm like, "No." Uh, every
[111:44] video that we've done since then is a
[111:46] real is a real picture of me for for
[111:48] better or or for worse, including this
[111:51] was another one uh that people were
[111:53] really upset about because a Gemini
[111:56] watermark was on the original version of
[111:58] it because that PC case was added with
[112:01] AI, but that was the only thing AI about
[112:04] it. That is otherwise just a photograph
[112:06] of me in the uh in the PC build corner.
[112:09] So, it was just the case that was thrown
[112:11] on there. So, What's funny is like
[112:16] the things that people thought were AI
[112:19] about this were not the things
[112:21] necessarily that were actually AI about
[112:24] it. The the the watermark made some
[112:27] people pretty upset. But then we had one
[112:30] where it was literally completely AI
[112:32] generated Lionus and almost nobody
[112:34] noticed because the watermark wasn't
[112:35] there.
[112:36] What's funny about that one and I've
[112:38] I've probably just seen your freaking
[112:40] face too much, so I recognized it. But
[112:43] cuz I I didn't actually I didn't clue
[112:45] into it based on the cardboard sign or
[112:48] the Linux logo or anything else. It was
[112:50] just I looked at your eyes and my brain
[112:52] was like
[112:53] >> they're not quite the right color.
[112:55] >> So was that I I don't even know what it
[112:57] was. Just something in my head was like,
[112:59] ah, that's something's wrong. It's like
[113:01] not him. Um, and I don't know if the I I
[113:05] I wasn't necessarily aware if maybe the
[113:07] editors were just trying to like do
[113:09] touch-ups and went a little bit too far
[113:10] or something like that. Uh, but but for
[113:13] me, my brain was like, "Yeah, it looks
[113:14] like
[113:15] >> so
[113:15] >> reminds me of AI generated."
[113:17] >> So, that's a fun thing. Uh, I've
[113:18] actually had that conversation with our
[113:20] thumbnail artist because I found that
[113:22] some of our real thumbnails actually do
[113:25] look a little bit AI. This one's not.
[113:28] This is a real picture, but it has the
[113:30] same eye lightning that might trigger
[113:34] the same reflexive response from you as
[113:36] the eyes in the other one, if I had to
[113:38] guess.
[113:38] >> No. Can Can you Can you like screenshot
[113:40] one of these and then scroll to the
[113:43] other one so we can have both on screen
[113:45] at the same time?
[113:45] >> I think we can just That one doesn't
[113:48] make me think that it's off. Like I I
[113:51] don't know what it is. There's some
[113:53] there's something about the eyes in that
[113:54] AI one that
[113:56] >> I thought this one looked really AI.
[113:59] Personally,
[114:00] >> I I thought like the the the crayon in
[114:03] your hand gives me or whatever that is,
[114:05] the marker in your hand gives me vibes
[114:07] similar to the the cardboard on fire
[114:10] thing. Um
[114:12] >> so that that might have made me think
[114:13] something was going on there. But yeah.
[114:16] Um you want to see something on the
[114:17] other end of the spectrum here real
[114:18] quick?
[114:19] >> Sure. Yeah. uh a content creator I've
[114:21] been enjoying watching for quite a while
[114:23] now as some like real solid second
[114:26] monitor content. Um but yeah, bring it
[114:29] up on YouTube. No, I don't think that's
[114:30] a dig. I think that's part of the goal.
[114:32] >> Um and I'll I'll I'll I'll you know,
[114:35] I'll lock in for interesting segments,
[114:37] but uh look up Gotham Chess
[114:40] and look at his thumbnails
[114:43] and show those on screen.
[114:47] Okay, so this is fully embraced.
[114:51] >> Click on the video tab.
[114:52] >> The AI.
[114:54] Oh my god.
[114:56] >> Um,
[115:00] and
[115:02] it feels like there I I don't know what
[115:04] it is because it's been really
[115:06] interesting to me since he started doing
[115:08] this. Um, actually checking the comments
[115:11] and and seeing what the sentiment on it
[115:13] is. Um, you guys are usually second
[115:16] monitor content for me. I don't take
[115:18] that as a dig. What? W show is like
[115:20] supposed to be second monitor content.
[115:22] Like that's
[115:23] >> that's crazy. Uh, sorry. Alex Badminton
[115:26] Academy, who I did a collab with a
[115:28] little while ago, just uploaded a collab
[115:29] with TechJoice. That's cool.
[115:31] >> Oh, nice. That is cool.
[115:33] >> Anyway, he's using AI AF in
[115:36] >> He's clearly using Oh, this guy is
[115:38] >> Yeah.
[115:39] >> Oh, interesting. So, this was another
[115:41] example that I wanted to show, but um
[115:45] >> here we go.
[115:45] >> This is interesting because it's it I I
[115:48] thought it might have been
[115:51] >> See, that doesn't even necess that just
[115:53] looks like he might have done like weird
[115:55] head enlargement or something. It
[115:56] doesn't necessarily
[115:58] >> immediately scream out AI to me. Um the
[116:00] Gotham Chess one, the commenters seem to
[116:03] be having a lot of fun with it. Um, like
[116:05] I I I can pretty much guarantee you if
[116:07] you go to the Gotham Chess video of him
[116:09] as a sumo wrestler and check the
[116:11] comments that there will be comments
[116:13] like talking about the thumbnail,
[116:16] >> but in a either neutral but surprised
[116:19] way or in a like supportive this has
[116:23] been kind of fun. His like feray into
[116:25] crazy AI thumbnails way.
[116:26] >> Here's another completely generated
[116:28] Linus. That is not my racket. Those are
[116:30] not my shoes. I was not wearing shorts.
[116:33] your head shape is wrong.
[116:35] >> Yeah. So, it's the it's the same here.
[116:37] This is completely generated.
[116:39] >> Um
[116:40] >> Yeah.
[116:41] >> So, some people are just leaning right
[116:42] into it and no one cares slash it's it's
[116:46] neutral and then others are using it a
[116:48] little bit and facing a bunch of
[116:49] backlash. I saw Jay's two cents was
[116:51] getting lit up on Twitter about using AI
[116:53] on something. I actually haven't looked
[116:54] at his thumbnails recently. The thing
[116:56] that I'm stuck on is I can't tell if
[116:58] it's a creator difference, an audience
[117:00] difference, or a style difference.
[117:03] Because with Gotham Chess, there's no
[117:04] real question.
[117:06] >> It doesn't seem like he's trying to get
[117:07] away with using AI to generate his
[117:11] thumbnails.
[117:12] >> He's playing with it very openly. It's
[117:15] very obvious. He's not trying to hide
[117:17] it. Um, it's it's it's kind of fun. Um,
[117:22] and then the the audience seems to be
[117:24] vibing with it. It seems to me, and I'm
[117:28] I am jumping to conclusions here. I
[117:31] don't have a lot of evidence for this,
[117:32] but I I if I had to wager right now, it
[117:35] seems to me like the thing that's
[117:37] bothering people is when it seems like
[117:42] I don't know, too normal,
[117:44] >> like when they're trying to like in the
[117:45] uncanny valley.
[117:47] >> I mean,
[117:47] >> I guess. Yeah.
[117:49] >> Pretty well doumented.
[117:52] >> Um Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[117:55] Yeah, it's interesting. It's uh just
[117:58] seeing seeing where the community is
[117:59] drawing the line because there there's
[118:00] clearly creators that people are fine
[118:03] with it.
[118:04] >> As uh SJ John Trombbley says, I think
[118:07] it's a community difference. I was
[118:08] talking to a VTuber a few weeks ago and
[118:10] she said you basically get
[118:12] excommunicated if you use AI for
[118:14] anything.
[118:16] which is interesting because
[118:19] I could see that being a space where it
[118:22] would be used a lot um
[118:26] >> in in some period of time from now uh
[118:30] when that when that sentiment when when
[118:33] someone is the first one to use it a
[118:35] bunch and and be successful anyway. Um
[118:51] It's a It's a It's such an interesting
[118:54] realm.
[118:57] Oh, someone says already happened.
[118:59] Looked up Val 987.
[119:02] Are they just like Aia AF?
[119:06] I don't even know what I'm looking at
[119:08] here.
[119:10] >> V E D A L It looks like. Yeah. I can't
[119:14] uh I can't tell what this is.
[119:18] Neurosama. Is that it?
[119:20] >> I have no idea.
[119:21] >> Yeah. I don't think I'm going to be able
[119:23] to figure this out.
[119:31] Okay.
[119:35] Yeah. I I think the AI Vtuber. Okay.
[119:38] Yeah. I I this is a this is a deeper
[119:42] rabbit hole than I think I'm going to
[119:43] dive into
[119:45] live on show. Thank you for flagging
[119:48] that for me though.
[119:50] >> Uh why don't we jump into another topic
[119:52] here? I don't even remember how we got
[119:53] on the subject.
[119:55] >> Uh oh yeah, the New York State could ban
[119:57] data center development. All right,
[119:58] cool. Uh hey, here's a cool thing that
[120:02] some YouTuber
[120:06] slash did. Uh, Zerof put up an
[120:10] incredible
[120:11] >> incredible video interviewing a bunch of
[120:14] experts and diving into I'm not going to
[120:18] play the video cuz you guys need to go
[120:20] watch it. It's 45 minutes, but it is a
[120:23] it is a hard and fast 45 minutes. Um, I
[120:28] can give you guys some of the some of
[120:30] the the top level details, but it's
[120:32] worth watching just so you can dive
[120:35] right into it. Um, it's an amazing
[120:38] investigation into Finnish startup
[120:40] Doughut Lab, who made waves at CES 2026,
[120:44] claiming to have a revolutionary solid
[120:46] state sodium ion battery with 400 W
[120:50] hours per kilogram of energy density, a
[120:52] 100,000 cycle life, and 5 minute
[120:55] charging. So, put that in context. uh
[120:58] 400 W hours per kilogram, which would be
[121:02] like 33% higher than a pretty solid
[121:06] lithium ion cell. 100,000
[121:10] cycle life is functionally a forever
[121:13] cell. Like whatever device you put that
[121:16] battery in would be dead long before you
[121:18] would reach a 100,000 cycles. And 5
[121:21] minute charging
[121:22] >> functionally useless compared to
[121:24] anything else.
[121:24] >> Yeah, 5 minute charging. That's nuts.
[121:27] That basically solves it. I mean, I
[121:29] finally Oh, hey, Luke. I finally got my
[121:31] motorbike.
[121:33] >> Yeah, Sammy showed me some pictures,
[121:37] >> man. That looks freaking sweet.
[121:39] Actually,
[121:41] >> yeah, I haven't shown the W show yet.
[121:44] >> Uh, wait, how is Dan so far down in my
[121:47] stupid list? Hello,
[121:50] >> Besser.
[121:51] There he is. All right, I'll send these
[121:53] over and we can fire these up here. Uh,
[122:00] Oh, here I'll also fire you over the
[122:02] picture of discovering uh why my GPU
[122:06] never showed up in my server um after
[122:09] all this time. And I finally got around
[122:12] to opening it up to troubleshoot the uh
[122:14] the problem. Uh okay. So, let's uh let's
[122:17] let's do motorbike picture first.
[122:20] So, I 5 minute charging. I had to I had
[122:23] to fuel up a vehicle for the first time
[122:25] in a while because my car is electric.
[122:27] And so I got my I had my motorbike back
[122:29] and it probably took me like five
[122:30] minutes because I went to that gas
[122:32] station uh you know the one that you
[122:34] have the loyalty to that doesn't have
[122:36] pay at the pump.
[122:37] >> Yeah.
[122:37] >> Up over hill. Yeah.
[122:38] >> I stopped by there to to grab some gas
[122:40] and so I like I had to park and then I
[122:44] had to go inside. I had to leave my
[122:46] credit card with them which didn't make
[122:47] me deeply comfortable. Uh but they take
[122:50] your credit card as collateral. then you
[122:51] go put as much gas in the tank as you
[122:53] want. I had no idea how much fuel I
[122:55] needed because it's been 3 years since I
[122:57] fueled my motorbike. One, and two, the
[123:01] cost of fuel is so different from the
[123:02] last time I fled it that even if I did
[123:04] remember how much money I t because I
[123:06] don't remember it in liters, right? So I
[123:08] >> got me.
[123:09] >> Yeah. I So I had no idea. I was able to
[123:13] super accurately guess
[123:16] for a really long time and then uh some
[123:20] dude who said he wouldn't start wars or
[123:23] something started a bunch of wars
[123:26] something you know whatever uh and now
[123:28] the gas price is insane and then I can't
[123:30] guess anymore. But yeah, you don't have
[123:32] to this doesn't matter for the show but
[123:35] you don't have to leave your card. you
[123:36] can you can just um say a certain amount
[123:39] and then go back in and they'll refund
[123:41] it.
[123:42] >> But I didn't know. So I just I was like,
[123:44] "Okay, sure. Here, take my credit card.
[123:45] I'll put in as much as I can and then
[123:47] I'll come back and get it." So it
[123:48] probably took me about 5 minutes to then
[123:51] go and fill it and then go and do the
[123:52] transaction and then go like get back on
[123:54] my bike. So if you could if you could
[123:57] refuel an electric vehicle in 5 minutes,
[124:00] that's functionally in my experience
[124:05] so similar to fueling a gasoline car
[124:08] that it might as well be the same thing.
[124:10] A new investigation led by battery
[124:13] researcher Zeroth, pulling in over 20
[124:16] independent experts, has now concluded
[124:18] that the miracle battery is literally
[124:21] just a standard lithium ion cell. You'll
[124:25] have to watch the video, but here's a
[124:27] summary of the findings. First up is the
[124:29] voltage curve. The cell sits at 3.7 to
[124:32] 3.8 volts at 50% charge. That is exactly
[124:36] where high nickel lithium ion cells
[124:38] operate. A real sodium ion cell doesn't
[124:40] go much past 3 1/2 volts. Second, and
[124:43] more damning, is the cell expansion
[124:45] data. When a battery charges, ions
[124:48] squeeze into the anode and make it swell
[124:50] in a predictable pattern. A graphite
[124:52] anode produces a distinctive kink in
[124:54] that expansion curve around 50 to 70%
[124:56] charge. The doughut cell shows exactly
[125:00] that kink, which is impossible for
[125:02] sodium ion because sodium ions are
[125:04] physically too large to fit into
[125:05] graphite.
[125:06] >> Don't shame it. Researchers compared the
[125:09] combined evidence to having both a
[125:11] fingerprint and a photo of the suspect.
[125:14] Real world capacity also came in at
[125:16] about 298 W hours per kg, which is
[125:19] decent for lithium ion, but nowhere near
[125:21] the 400 that was claimed. Also, the
[125:24] structure behind this thing is a mess of
[125:26] shell companies. The tech traces back to
[125:28] a German firm called CT Coatings, whose
[125:32] patents include things like screen
[125:34] printed paving slabs and warning
[125:36] triangles.
[125:38] Nordic Nano was supposedly manufacturing
[125:40] the cells, but reportedly never made a
[125:42] single battery. Donut Lab handled the
[125:44] selling. The company raised around $25
[125:47] million from over 1300
[125:51] mostly small investors, which is really
[125:53] sad. These are regular people who put in
[125:56] anywhere from $3,000 to $23,000 each and
[125:59] then they inflated their valuation to
[126:01] $1.2 billion off of CES hype. Finnish
[126:06] financial and criminal authorities are
[126:08] now investigating. It's nice to hear
[126:10] that there are countries where
[126:12] misrepresenting your product is an
[126:13] actual crime when you take money from
[126:15] investors. That's pretty cool. Our
[126:18] discussion question is venture
[126:19] capitalists probably would have caught
[126:20] this with basic due diligence. I mean
[126:22] yes and no. Elizabeth Holmes, right? But
[126:25] whatever. So, the company went straight
[126:26] to small retail investors who couldn't
[126:28] do that. What does it say about
[126:29] crowdfunded tech that the people with
[126:31] the least protection are the ones left
[126:32] holding the bag? Usually, it doesn't
[126:35] work out this way, but boy, when it
[126:37] does, is it ever a giant boatload of
[126:39] suck?
[126:40] >> Isn't that sort of always?
[126:43] >> Um,
[126:44] >> okay. Let's go back to the I I I I I
[126:47] think I understand you were saying
[126:48] something different than the path I'm
[126:49] going down to be clear, but Okay. If we
[126:51] go back to like the NCX NCIX closure,
[126:55] like the banks and stuff get paid out
[126:57] first, right? Like the really big
[126:59] >> Yeah, it's a different thing like
[127:00] bankruptcy proceedings versus like like
[127:03] venture capital. But okay,
[127:05] >> a lot of the time the the the
[127:09] >> the the larger organizations have in
[127:12] both cases either the the the due
[127:16] diligence capacity or the legal clout to
[127:22] better protect themselves compared to
[127:24] small mom and pop investors. Yeah, it's
[127:27] a definite problem on both sides.
[127:30] >> Yeah.
[127:32] Anyway, super super disappointed to hear
[127:35] about this. I I never claimed to know
[127:38] enough about cell chemistry to have
[127:40] taken a strong stance one way or the
[127:42] other, which is um
[127:47] I'm which means that, you know, I was
[127:50] hopeful that it was a cool, awesome
[127:52] solid state battery thing, but I also
[127:54] wasn't like, you know, sure that it
[127:58] wasn't. Like, I just didn't really have
[127:59] a position on it. And now I'm uh
[128:02] >> that's also why it's cool that Zeroth is
[128:04] doing this.
[128:04] >> Glad to have closure. Yeah.
[128:06] >> Yeah. And and somebody who does know
[128:08] what they're what they're doing um is
[128:10] working on it. YouTube is such a cool
[128:12] place.
[128:13] >> And uh hey, I guess I'm ready to show my
[128:17] finished paint job.
[128:19] >> It's a It's an 8ft job, but I took these
[128:21] pictures from 8 ft away, so it should
[128:23] look pretty good. Throw it up there.
[128:26] >> So that's it. Damn, that's actually so
[128:29] sick.
[128:30] >> I saw them on Sammy's little phone, but
[128:32] they look way better full.
[128:34] >> Um, this is kind of in the This is in
[128:35] the shadow away from the sun. You can
[128:38] really see on the uh on the front wheel
[128:40] how there's kind of a bit of a color
[128:42] shift to it. So, yeah. Dan, do you want
[128:44] to go ahead and There she is. So, same
[128:47] here. You can kind of see how it looks a
[128:48] bit little bit This is more in the sun,
[128:49] so it looks a little lighter toward the
[128:51] back of the bike. This is just like
[128:53] pictures on my fold. Um, yeah, there she
[128:56] is. The shop did an amazing job of
[129:00] putting her back together. There's a lot
[129:02] of problems with the paint job, like I
[129:04] said. Um, not least of which is that
[129:07] there's some adhesion issues between the
[129:08] white paint layer and the primer that
[129:10] are going to make it not last that long.
[129:13] But for a 2003, boy, does she ever look
[129:17] pristine right now. New exhaust sounds
[129:20] amazing. I'm not normally like a like,
[129:22] oh man, yeah, you should like check out
[129:24] my exhaust. This sounds so good. Um, I'm
[129:27] not really that type, but
[129:30] um, they managed to do what I was You
[129:34] can You can take it away. Thanks, Dan.
[129:36] They managed to do what apparently I was
[129:38] the very first person to ever ask for.
[129:41] Um, the original exhaust, the main issue
[129:44] with it is that it a didn't match at all
[129:46] cuz it was like silver and like giant
[129:49] and ugly and b had a bunch of damage on
[129:51] it from uh either the previous owner or
[129:54] I both of us dropped the bike at some
[129:56] point or another. So, it had some damage
[129:57] from that. Um, so I needed a new exhaust
[130:00] and I was like, "Okay, so I want a quiet
[130:03] one." And they were like,
[130:06] "Nobody's ever asked for that before.
[130:09] What are you talking about? Nobody ever
[130:11] wanted to make their motorcycle quieter.
[130:14] And I was like, "Yeah, but but like I I
[130:16] I like I like my V twin. I like that it
[130:18] doesn't like scream. I like that it's,
[130:20] you know, modestly
[130:22] modestly loud." And um
[130:26] and anyway,
[130:27] >> really funny.
[130:28] >> Yeah. Yeah. So they they uh I found this
[130:31] carbon fiber pipe that was compatible
[130:33] with my bike and I was like, "Hey, what
[130:34] about this one? This doesn't like
[130:36] advertise being super loud." So they got
[130:38] it and they got a baffle for it. Um, so
[130:40] it has like a like it has like a deep
[130:42] growl, but it but it's not super loud. I
[130:45] actually really like it. It sounds
[130:47] amazing. Uh, John Josh in Canada asked,
[130:49] "What's your organ donor status? I'm a
[130:51] proud organ donor. If I don't need them,
[130:53] I'd be happy to have somebody else have
[130:55] them." So,
[130:58] yeah. I honestly I I had the I was I was
[131:02] riding riding scooters in Taiwan part of
[131:06] this last week and I genuinely had the
[131:09] thought of like would my o organ donor
[131:12] card work here? Um
[131:15] like what what happens if you die in a
[131:18] foreign country? Um
[131:21] I don't know. But I'm still alive so no
[131:23] real reason to keep thinking about it.
[131:25] Um,
[131:28] do we want to talk about the creepy dude
[131:29] stalking Rockstar's office?
[131:33] Sure.
[131:36] Uh, user then pomegranate-625,
[131:41] which sounds like the most Reddit
[131:42] generated autogenerated username ever,
[131:45] uh, posted on a G Oh, it's not even Oh,
[131:47] no. Subreddit. Yeah. Okay. posted on a
[131:49] GTA 6 fan subreddit this week about a
[131:52] decreased oxygen levels on the weekends,
[131:55] which this user believes is executives
[131:58] meeting after business hours at the
[132:00] headquarters to discuss marketing/tra 3.
[132:06] This same user has been tracking audio
[132:08] levels around the office to see if they
[132:10] can identify key topics and trends as
[132:13] well as having counted cigarette butts
[132:16] left outside to try to identify higher
[132:18] levels of stress. So, I'd like to jump
[132:21] in real quick here and say this is a
[132:23] prime example of how a behavior may be
[132:27] legal, but that doesn't mean that it
[132:29] demonstrates good social skills.
[132:32] >> Yeah.
[132:36] kind of weird.
[132:37] >> Oh my goodness.
[132:39] >> It's kind of It's funny.
[132:41] >> Yeah. I mean, it's funny until you're a
[132:43] rockstar employee who feels deeply
[132:45] uncomfortable about knowing that this
[132:47] guy is there and like
[132:50] >> you see him like you go outside for a
[132:52] smoke and then you see him like scurry
[132:54] up afterwards and he like picks up your
[132:55] cigarette with tweezers and gets it like
[132:57] >> Yeah.
[132:58] >> DNA scanned. like
[133:03] it's definitely wacky. Um yeah.
[133:06] >> Yeah. There's uh what what did we what
[133:08] did we used to what did we used to say
[133:10] back in the late 90s early 2000s? Get a
[133:13] life.
[133:14] >> Huh? Yeah.
[133:15] >> That that was before touch grass. That
[133:17] was that was what we used to say.
[133:19] >> Yeah.
[133:20] >> Get a [ __ ] life.
[133:22] >> Touch grass is pretty good.
[133:23] >> Touch grass is pretty good. But also no.
[133:25] Do more than touch grass. actually like
[133:28] >> grass and get a life.
[133:29] >> He might have touched grass in the
[133:30] process of this. He actually probably
[133:32] did.
[133:33] >> Yeah, that's crazy.
[133:35] >> So, it doesn't work anymore. Um, good
[133:38] news. Other topic, Ampear is back.
[133:40] Videoards.com with a zed uh reports that
[133:46] Yeah.
[133:46] >> has listed new GeForce RTX 3050 and 3060
[133:50] cards on their website. The 3060 uh
[133:53] M2521
[133:55] plus N630
[133:58] is the older 12 gig model with 3584
[134:02] CUDA corores at 1320. Uh
[134:05] >> I don't think you have to read every
[134:06] stupid
[134:08] >> 1777 MHz things you don't care about. Um
[134:13] there's also a 3050 coming. I think I
[134:16] mentioned that previously. Uh Manley's
[134:18] web page does not list North American
[134:20] distribution, but Tech Powerup reported
[134:23] uh that early May,
[134:27] but a Tech PowerUp report from early May
[134:29] names Asus, Colorful, and MSI as
[134:31] partners uh in at least the RTX 3060
[134:34] resurrection expected later this month.
[134:37] Uh the likely reason for the 3000 series
[134:39] returning versus the 4000 uh is foundry
[134:43] availability. The 3000 series GPUs are
[134:45] built on Samsung's 8nmter node, while
[134:47] the 4060 shares the same Nvidia 4nmter
[134:50] node as the 5060. So, yeah, that does
[134:53] make a lot of sense.
[134:54] >> I think that's a typo. I think they mean
[134:55] TSMC rather than Nvidia there. I'll fix
[134:57] that for you. So, just for context, the
[135:00] 3060 12 gig originally launched in 2021.
[135:08] >> Yeah, it's still a pretty capable card
[135:11] though. But like,
[135:12] >> but how sad is that that it's been 5
[135:15] years and that that
[135:17] >> is that video out
[135:18] >> and that the 3060 12 gig would be an
[135:21] acceptable gaming GPU today.
[135:25] No, I Yeah,
[135:26] >> like I remember when we used to get new
[135:28] GPUs every year instead of waiting five
[135:31] years for what did we get two
[135:33] generations in that time and with no
[135:35] 6000 series on the horizon. I don't
[135:38] think there's any rumors swirling which
[135:40] basically means we're 6 to 12 months out
[135:44] at least.
[135:47] There's a video coming from a I'm going
[135:50] to be incredibly vague here. A creator
[135:54] um who who like charted a bunch of Man,
[135:58] I'm going to have to just keep being
[135:59] really vague. I think it's not out yet.
[136:01] >> Um a bunch of things that have been
[136:03] happening over a bunch of years. Um
[136:07] >> Oh, no. Yeah, it's not that one. Yeah, I
[136:10] don't think it's out yet. Um but it's
[136:13] it's it's rough, man. since since
[136:18] you know things since it felt good.
[136:19] Basically, it's it's been bad. What a
[136:21] what a boring obvious statement, but
[136:23] it's like even worse than I thought.
[136:25] When you see it charted out,
[136:26] >> this sounds like a Paul video. I'm
[136:28] calling it.
[136:29] >> I I don't know. I can't say. Uh but but
[136:33] 3060 like I mean I've talked so many
[136:36] times on this show about uh somebody
[136:39] running Arc Raiders on a 1080 and then
[136:42] you get to a 30 and now you've got some
[136:44] you know you've got some rate tracing
[136:46] going on and some of the new software
[136:48] features and stuff a little bit
[136:50] >> little bit little bit of RA trace
[136:52] >> little bit
[136:53] >> some light DLSS
[136:55] >> little bit of things going on here there
[136:57] u 12 gigs of VRAM should also really
[136:59] help the 3050. I know,
[137:04] you know, people need affordable
[137:06] options, but the 3050 mostly because of
[137:08] the VRAMm really feels like it starts to
[137:11] become
[137:12] >> that's a pretty underpowered card today.
[137:14] >> Yeah. 3056 gig is like
[137:17] >> we're getting dangerously close to
[137:18] modern iGPUs being somewhat competitive.
[137:21] >> Totally.
[137:22] >> Yeah. So, that that's that's a lot less
[137:25] interesting to me. But that that 3060 12
[137:27] gig is is a is a serious card. you can
[137:30] get some stuff done with that. So,
[137:31] that's not too bad.
[137:34] >> Yeah,
[137:35] >> I'm I'm supportive of this overall.
[137:38] Anything that makes GPUs more plentiful
[137:41] and or more affordable, I am I am all
[137:44] for. I wish this wasn't the solution cuz
[137:47] this is effectively Nvidia scrapyard
[137:50] wars.
[137:51] Like, we're we're manufacturing old GPUs
[137:55] instead of going on Facebook Marketplace
[137:57] to obtain them. But fine,
[138:00] >> the fabled uh just buy everything from
[138:02] the store scrapyard worse.
[138:04] >> Yeah,
[138:05] >> if this is what it takes to get slightly
[138:08] more affordable GPUs, then I guess I'll
[138:10] take it.
[138:12] Well, I think one thing that I'm really
[138:14] hoping to come from this is just that
[138:15] people that just need a GPU that say has
[138:19] 12 gigs of VRAM and can do a few things,
[138:22] uh, there will be more options for that
[138:24] because if there's more total output of
[138:27] graphics cards, people that need at
[138:29] least that amount of performance will
[138:30] have more options. Hopefully, that'll
[138:32] ease up the used market, do some things,
[138:34] help prices here and there.
[138:36] >> Will any of that actually happen? kind
[138:38] of doubt it, but I can hope.
[138:41] >> Hey, here's a fun one. Nintendo of
[138:43] Europe to pay €35 million in fines due
[138:47] to Joy-Con drift. In response to faulty
[138:50] JoyCons, a complaint from a French
[138:51] consumer organization was filed claiming
[138:53] that Nintendo of Europe misled customers
[138:55] by failing to disclose Joy-Con
[138:57] controller defects transparently, which
[138:59] caused consumers to buy unnecessary
[139:01] replacement controllers. Nintendo has
[139:03] agreed to pay $35 million, about $40
[139:06] million US, after a French regulator
[139:08] found them liable. Nintendo of Europe
[139:10] said in a statement that it did not
[139:12] intentionally mislead customers and that
[139:14] this settlement does not constitute an
[139:16] admission of guilt and reflects only the
[139:18] amicable resolution of legal
[139:20] proceedings.
[139:22] According to a UK watchdog, over 40% of
[139:24] Switch Joycons have experienced stick
[139:27] drift. It is remarkable to me that a
[139:30] company of the size of Nintendo managed
[139:32] to not fix that.
[139:36] >> Yeah.
[139:36] >> I I I don't
[139:38] >> pretty wild.
[139:39] >> I don't get it. Um
[139:43] and like that my own experience with
[139:45] JoyCons backs this up. Like I think over
[139:49] 40% of our first generation JoyCons
[139:51] drift now. And it's not like they've
[139:54] been used super extensively. like
[139:57] they've been they've been used, but I
[139:59] think
[140:01] three of us have like finished Breath of
[140:03] the Wild.
[140:06] My son played one of the Pokemon games
[140:08] on Switch. Like, like there's there's
[140:11] maybe if I were to add it up like 400
[140:14] hours of gaming across three sets of
[140:17] JoyCons. Like, it's not a ton.
[140:21] >> Pretty rough.
[140:24] Uh, a unique username says 60% of people
[140:27] have a life outside of playing Nintendo
[140:28] games. Uh, no, because you don't even
[140:30] you don't even have to play that much
[140:32] for them to Oh, for them to break. Oh,
[140:34] yeah. I guess. So, they have a life that
[140:36] basically does not include Nintendo
[140:38] games. Cuz it's a fun from my
[140:40] understanding, it's like a fundamentally
[140:42] flawed design, right? Like it will
[140:44] drift. Is that correct? It's just a
[140:47] matter of when it dies.
[140:50] >> I think so. L explains joke makes it not
[140:53] funny.
[140:55] >> Sorry.
[141:02] >> Sorry. I got to read something for a
[141:03] sec. Um, what do we have next though? Do
[141:06] you want to do Apple introduces Siri AI?
[141:09] >> Yeah, I can do that.
[141:11] At WWDC on Monday, Apple announced its
[141:14] second attempt at Apple Intelligence,
[141:17] which it is calling Siri AI, but it's
[141:20] Gemini under the hood. According to
[141:22] Apple, the new Siri AI can draw on
[141:24] personal context from your messages,
[141:26] emails, and photos. Get up-to-date
[141:27] answers from the web. Use on-screen
[141:29] awareness to tailor its assistance based
[141:31] on the app you're using. Use all of that
[141:33] information along with apps on your
[141:35] device to perform tasks on your behalf.
[141:37] Craig Federigis took a pointed shot at
[141:40] other AI companies during the keynote,
[141:41] saying, "Some are racing forward,
[141:44] seemingly pursuing AI for the sake of AI
[141:46] without clear regard for the people it's
[141:48] meant to serve." But according to Craig,
[141:50] Apple's approach is to focus on making
[141:51] AI that improves the lives of their
[141:54] customers. Apple also attempted to
[141:56] differentiate themselves from other
[141:57] companies by saying that everything is
[141:59] built privacy first with anything that
[142:02] leaves the device handled by private
[142:03] cloud compute which the company says
[142:05] does not store or share user data and
[142:08] can be audited by outside experts. A
[142:11] presenter demoed Siri AI by asking it
[142:13] about a concert in San Francisco. Sorry,
[142:15] I'm going to short aside here. What is
[142:17] it with every big tech company using
[142:21] going to concerts as a demo lately?
[142:23] Google just did it. Okay, just Apple and
[142:26] Google. Fine, whatever. But it feels
[142:27] like it comes up a lot. Are concerts not
[142:31] like really really expensive now?
[142:36] Yeah,
[142:37] >> this feels like you know how you know
[142:40] how back in the day Apple would would
[142:42] show you all their new calendar features
[142:44] during the keynote and like the example
[142:47] calendar they have has like wake up and
[142:51] do yoga and then just like a bunch of
[142:53] chill. They have like four events in a
[142:56] given day and I'm like, "Yeah, this is
[142:58] why I can't use your calendar because my
[143:00] calendar will have like 25 things on it
[143:02] and your your data density is so low on
[143:04] your calendar that I like can't see any
[143:06] of it at once." Like it does it not does
[143:09] it just feel like the executives are
[143:12] just building the products to do the
[143:14] things that are relevant to them and to
[143:16] no one else? Like as Apple's exa as
[143:20] Apple's as exa as Apple's seuite has
[143:23] aged their focus on like health related
[143:26] products and fall monitoring stuff seems
[143:28] to have aged a seems to have advanced
[143:30] along with them. Like I I don't know.
[143:32] It's just kind of a funny observation.
[143:34] You know what? I'll move on. Um,
[143:37] anyway, they asked it to about a concert
[143:39] in San Francisco, asked it to set a
[143:42] reminder to sign up for the ticket
[143:43] lottery, and then pull a friend's new
[143:45] address out of a message and generate
[143:46] driving directions. Pretty cool, pretty
[143:48] useful. A second demo had Siri plan a
[143:51] World Cup watch party for the Brazil
[143:52] versus Morocco match, getting Siri AI to
[143:55] plan a menu for the event, including a
[143:56] dessert idea, which was pulled out of a
[143:58] text. Some other things were demoed uh
[144:00] including improved visual intelligence
[144:03] capable of doing stuff like splitting a
[144:04] bill with Apple Cache or surfacing
[144:06] nutritional information from a plate of
[144:08] food. Also, better dictation and more
[144:10] customizable voices. Apple is also
[144:13] launching a dedicated Siri app that uses
[144:14] iCloud to privately sync your
[144:16] conversation history across your
[144:17] devices. Right now, Siri AI is available
[144:20] for developer testing and will launch as
[144:21] a public beta later this year.
[144:27] Discussion question. Do you think this
[144:29] approach to AI is better than other
[144:31] companies?
[144:35] >> H
[144:40] uh well I was reading other stuff during
[144:41] a decent amount of this. It looks like
[144:43] it's local first and and privacy focused
[144:46] and stuff and that seems
[144:47] >> beneficial. Good.
[144:49] >> It's funny. I uh I I took a lot of flack
[144:51] when I was talking about the uh RTX
[144:53] Spark launch in our in our video walking
[144:56] in the park in in at Comp Computex like
[144:59] uh you know Lionus is changing his tune.
[145:01] It's like well yeah when I'm presented
[145:03] with new information I I change my
[145:06] perspective. Um if I didn't do that you
[145:08] should not listen to me at all. Um I I
[145:12] like local AI. Local AI seems pretty
[145:18] cool. I don't like, you know, Sam Alman
[145:21] listen Sam Alman listening in on
[145:23] everything that I'm, you know, confiding
[145:26] in my AI. Um, that I'm super not into.
[145:29] But anything that I can run locally, I'm
[145:31] actually,
[145:33] as long as it's legitimately useful, I'm
[145:36] Yeah, I'm kind of excited about. There's
[145:38] a lot of There's a lot of really cool
[145:40] stuff. Nvidia's demos were really cool.
[145:42] Apple's demos here look pretty
[145:44] compelling. I need to see it actually
[145:46] work because I've I've heard all of this
[145:48] before and the like the jaded part of me
[145:52] is like, "Okay, what's going to be
[145:53] different this time?"
[145:56] >> But if it's cool, then it's cool.
[145:59] >> The demons through the portal, it's like
[146:02] um it's already here. I I I think like
[146:05] local if if you hate it, local is the
[146:08] way to go. If if that makes sense. Um
[146:12] because you're, you know, don't don't
[146:15] pay for anything at that point other
[146:17] than hardware. I guess hopefully you can
[146:18] use the same hardware you already have,
[146:20] but if you're not fortunate to have
[146:21] super expensive computer hardware, then
[146:23] I guess you need to buy computer
[146:25] hardware. You can try to get off the
[146:26] used market or something to to do
[146:28] whatever. But anyways, um by by going
[146:31] the local route, you can keep up to
[146:34] speed
[146:35] um but not directly be paying
[146:41] uh or or feeding data into some of these
[146:44] massive uh AI companies.
[146:48] So, if if that's your biggest gripe,
[146:50] which I think it's the biggest gripe for
[146:52] a lot of people, um you can you can
[146:53] avoid that with local. And with Odysius
[146:56] being out there, Local is more
[146:58] approachable than ever. Um and as far as
[147:00] I can tell, it's just going to keep
[147:02] being more and more approachable over
[147:05] time, which is which is fantastic.
[147:06] >> I can relate to a lot of the other
[147:08] gripes. I mean, the fact that the fact
[147:11] that this whole technology was built
[147:13] with data that was stolen from
[147:16] >> Yeah. creators, including me, by the
[147:19] way, like me personally.
[147:20] >> I
[147:22] >> the fact that I was able here. Okay,
[147:24] this
[147:26] >> probably could use.
[147:27] >> I mean, it's it's also true for like
[147:29] anyone who had a Reddit account. Like
[147:30] this isn't this isn't necessarily like
[147:32] special to any individual person. Like
[147:34] if you were a member of the internet,
[147:36] your information was stolen. Like this
[147:38] could probably use a little bit more
[147:39] context, but I managed to get OpenAI to
[147:42] generate this picture before the show
[147:44] with basically no difficulty whatsoever.
[147:50] >> Sorry, I just got jump scared by Sandy.
[147:53] How long have you been there?
[147:57] Holy crap.
[147:59] What the heck?
[148:01] >> That was like some poltergeist stuff
[148:03] right there. That was amazing.
[148:05] I had no idea he was there. Oh my god.
[148:10] Wow. Thanks, Sammy. Sorry, lights.
[148:13] >> No, you're good.
[148:16] >> Whoa.
[148:17] >> Um, and that image that I generated was
[148:19] in spite of chat GPT refusing multiple
[148:22] times to generate it on the basis of
[148:25] that it was against its
[148:28] >> uh what what did it say? Um yeah,
[148:31] against its its terms. Uh, so it was
[148:34] clearly clearly trained on like like me
[148:38] like my actual creative output. Um, and
[148:41] and probably almost every single one of
[148:44] you as well. And that's that's crap.
[148:48] That's pretty crap.
[148:49] >> No, I and I I completely agree with
[148:50] that. My
[148:51] >> But it's also out there.
[148:53] >> Yes. My thing is that that happened and
[148:56] that can be terrible and we can all
[148:58] agree that that's terrible and we can
[149:00] all agree that these big companies are
[149:02] profiting off of looting all of that
[149:04] from all of us. Um,
[149:08] and I think the biggest way if you just
[149:10] really want to get back at them for it,
[149:12] the best way to do that is local. run it
[149:16] in a way that they profit zero and gain
[149:20] data zero
[149:22] >> because then at least
[149:23] >> you might as well use the stuff that was
[149:25] stolen from you.
[149:27] >> Yes, it's using things that was stolen
[149:28] from other people as well and that's
[149:29] that's its own ethical
[149:31] >> and that sucks
[149:32] >> quandry
[149:33] >> and that's pretty crap.
[149:38] >> I don't have much more to say on that to
[149:40] be completely honest. Brutal. But um
[149:46] I I think people are very actively I
[149:49] know quite a few people right now that
[149:51] are using this stuff to accelerate
[149:52] themselves in ways that is making them
[149:55] much more competitible sorry much more
[149:57] competitive than their peers
[150:00] competitive.
[150:02] Um, yeah. Uh, and if you can do that
[150:07] with local systems, then you're able to
[150:09] keep up with those people and not profit
[150:12] these these big organizations. Um,
[150:15] and I I think that's a cool at least
[150:18] option. I at least option at the very
[150:21] least I think you can go with the like
[150:23] the performant combo of having the um
[150:29] Oh, what are why why did I blank on the
[150:31] name? the Frontier models um and using
[150:36] that for like special high difficulty
[150:39] stuff if you want and then having the
[150:40] local models for for everything else and
[150:43] you can do some really I hear people
[150:45] talk about how the Frontier models are
[150:47] so much further ahead than the local
[150:48] models. I think that's overplayed a
[150:50] little bit. the frontier models are are
[150:52] quite clearly ahead. But I think in the
[150:55] use cases that as far as I can tell most
[151:00] people are using AI for you can really
[151:02] do a lot of that with local models.
[151:05] >> Um and then as I said earlier in the
[151:08] show when you really do need to push it
[151:09] you can you can
[151:11] >> switch your your uh model to one of the
[151:14] frontier models. You can do that in in
[151:16] Odysius. can have both cloud-based
[151:18] frontier models, whatever, and you can
[151:21] have local models running through the
[151:23] same UI. Um, so yeah, own it yourself. I
[151:26] think that's the only real way. Um,
[151:32] yeah,
[151:34] >> one day after a group of people looted
[151:36] the library of Alexandria, they took it
[151:38] all, but somehow you're able to get a
[151:41] copy of that. I think you should take
[151:43] it.
[151:48] Ah, no, it's not really related. Um, one
[151:50] day after its discovery, Meta has pulled
[151:54] the unreleased facial recognition system
[151:57] out of its smart glasses companion app.
[152:00] Um, Wired revealed that the code was
[152:02] sitting on more than 50 million phones.
[152:05] The system was internally called Name
[152:08] Tag and according to Wired, it was
[152:10] designed to convert faces captured by
[152:12] the glasses into unique biometric
[152:14] signatures. then compare those face
[152:16] prints against a database stored on the
[152:19] user's device. Wired also reported that
[152:22] any faces the system failed to recognize
[152:24] were cropped, indexed, and stored
[152:26] locally on the phone for future
[152:28] processing. Note that Meta refused to
[152:32] answer Wired's questions on whether the
[152:34] biometric data would be sent back to
[152:36] Meta's servers. The feature was never
[152:39] turned on, but the machinery was already
[152:41] built into the Meta AI app as early as
[152:43] January, even as Meta publicly said it
[152:46] had made no final decision about face
[152:49] recognition. name tag first surfaced in
[152:52] the news in February when the New York
[152:53] Times cited internal meta documents
[152:56] showing the company was weighing a
[152:58] launch as soon as this year with one
[153:00] memo reportedly describing releasing it
[153:02] during a dynamic political environment
[153:04] when privacy and civil liberties
[153:06] advocates would be distracted.
[153:11] >> Yeah.
[153:13] After Wired's first report, MetaVP of
[153:16] communications Andy Stone said the
[153:17] company could not answer questions about
[153:19] how the system would work because, this
[153:21] is a quote, "The feature does not
[153:22] exist."
[153:25] The updated Meta AI app strips out the
[153:27] face recognition software.
[153:30] You doing okay over there, Dan?
[153:33] >> This current year is absurd.
[153:36] >> This is just
[153:40] Do you need You know what? Remove him.
[153:42] Remove the thing. Okay,
[153:43] >> remove the thing. It counts. It counts
[153:45] if Dan If Dan can't anymore. Um, the
[153:48] updated meta app strips out the face
[153:50] recognition software, including the code
[153:52] that ran the name tag recognition
[153:53] process, the person recognized alert
[153:56] that the app would have shown, and the
[153:57] folder where the app would have stored
[153:59] cropped images and biometric signatures
[154:00] of unidentified faces. Our discussion
[154:03] question is, is there anything we can do
[154:05] to protect our privacy when this kind of
[154:07] tech simply even exists? Um,
[154:12] I mean, there's those uh there's those
[154:15] cool camera rejecting reflective
[154:18] accessories you can wear. I don't think
[154:21] it helps if they aren't emitting IR. So,
[154:24] uh, trying to think what else we got.
[154:28] Not go in public, says Scrappy DP. Way
[154:31] ahead of you there. If I wasn't a
[154:33] YouTuber, I would just hang out in my
[154:34] house.
[154:36] >> What else we got?
[154:37] >> If you're in semi-private places,
[154:40] Um, I don't know why I'm saying
[154:42] semi-private. I mean private places, but
[154:44] I'm not necessarily including only like
[154:46] your house. If you're in like say your
[154:48] your friend's house, right?
[154:50] >> Like that or or a business like a a
[154:53] restaurant.
[154:54] >> Um, you might be able to make it the the
[154:56] rule of the the the business or
[154:58] restaurant or those are the same thing,
[155:00] whatever. Uh, or maybe a house rule um
[155:03] that you can't wear these glasses when
[155:06] you're in those places. The the tough
[155:08] part is this rhymes to me with the
[155:12] palunteer saving a bunch of lives and
[155:14] also stealing all of your precious data
[155:16] that you could ever have uh in in
[155:18] return, which is it's going to be really
[155:22] hard to tell people, hey, you can't wear
[155:24] your glasses that you might need to see.
[155:26] >> Yeah. Cuz they'll they'll have a
[155:28] prescription in there and they might not
[155:30] have prescription not smart lenses
[155:32] because these things are you can you can
[155:34] hate it all you want, but it's going to
[155:35] go mainstream. like it's going to go
[155:38] people just have
[155:38] >> Yeah. They might not have their other
[155:40] glasses on them. So, they might just not
[155:42] be able to see if you want your privacy.
[155:46] >> Yeah.
[155:46] >> Uh which is these these cost exchanges
[155:49] are going to make it very socially
[155:50] difficult. It would be very socially
[155:52] difficult to say no to the palunteer
[155:54] thing in the in the eyes of of someone
[155:57] potentially dying. It would be very
[155:58] socially difficult to say, "No, you
[156:00] can't wear your glasses." to someone who
[156:02] actually needs them to be able to see
[156:03] and oh, they just also happen to be able
[156:05] to surveil everyone that's in your
[156:07] location. Uh, the other problem is you
[156:11] can definitely just mod them so that the
[156:13] indicator light does not go on when you
[156:14] record video. So, like it's over
[156:18] already. It barely started and it's
[156:20] over. If someone has these glasses, you
[156:23] have no real way of knowing uh they
[156:25] might be recording you. like it just
[156:28] it's done. That includes in bathrooms,
[156:30] that includes in um a huge variety of
[156:35] places. I I'm trying to imagine like
[156:38] um there are a variety of places around
[156:41] the world. I was there recently, so I
[156:42] was just thinking of it recently. Um but
[156:46] even here in Taiwan, they have certain
[156:48] hot springs that are like nude hot
[156:49] springs. In in Japan, they have the the
[156:51] onsons where you're not really supposed
[156:53] to wear clothes. Mhm.
[156:54] >> Um I'm assuming you would still be able
[156:56] to wear glasses.
[156:59] >> What if you can't see without your
[157:00] glasses? You would have to be able to
[157:01] wear glasses.
[157:02] >> Yeah.
[157:04] >> Um
[157:07] I suspect cameras aren't exactly welcome
[157:10] at like nude beaches. There's nude
[157:12] beaches in North America. I'm not just
[157:14] trying to centralize this to Asia. Um
[157:17] but someone would be allowed to wear
[157:18] their glasses. The thing is like glasses
[157:21] can get in a lot of places that cameras
[157:23] can't. Um,
[157:26] and are much more socially acceptable to
[157:28] point at things because you're pointing
[157:30] at it with your face. Um, oh man. MCH
[157:34] says, uh, Luke and Lionus, time to trim
[157:37] the people you hang out with. It's like
[157:40] I I wish it was that simple, you know?
[157:43] Like I, um,
[157:46] it's not that simple. Like with
[157:50] acquaintances,
[157:52] sure, maybe you could do that. But with
[157:55] like longtime friends, are you're you're
[157:59] going to terminate a friendship over
[158:00] someone wearing AI glasses? Some people
[158:03] might. Most people won't. What about
[158:06] family? Most people won't. Are you going
[158:07] to excommunicate family over them
[158:10] wearing AI glasses?
[158:11] >> This is the exact thing I just mentioned
[158:13] where uh it's it's socially difficult.
[158:16] That's what I meant by this. Yeah,
[158:18] >> it it is going to be socially difficult
[158:20] to the point of not possible for a lot
[158:22] of people um to
[158:26] do that.
[158:27] >> Mind paradox uh flagged the solution for
[158:30] us here. Um
[158:33] great moment from the Princess Bride. I
[158:35] don't know if you guys have audio.
[158:39] >> Oh lordy, why do I suck at this?
[158:45] The the Yeah, fixed. There you go. There
[158:48] we go. Ready?
[158:50] >> Why you wear a mask? Will you burn the
[158:52] acid or something like that?
[158:54] >> Oh, no. It's just they're terribly
[158:55] comfortable. I think everyone will be
[158:57] wearing them in the future.
[158:59] >> It's a great line. Masks are terribly
[159:02] comfortable. I think everyone will be
[159:03] wearing them in the future. So, because
[159:05] he asks why he wears a mask. Um, yeah.
[159:09] So, that's an option. You could just
[159:10] everyone could just wear masks.
[159:16] Also, high social friction. I think when
[159:18] you walk into the bank in your bandit
[159:20] mask, they probably will ask you to
[159:21] remove it.
[159:27] Yeah. Grwing says, "I can't even get
[159:29] family to care about basic web privacy.
[159:31] Little chance I can get them to care
[159:32] about the privacy implications of
[159:34] devices like this given an interesting
[159:35] feature set." Yeah, exactly.
[159:40] >> Um,
[159:42] yeah. Oh man, I didn't even think about
[159:44] like co-workers. I sis says, "The CEO at
[159:47] my old company wore the Facebook Oakley
[159:49] glasses to the office regularly." Yeah.
[159:51] So, friends, family. Yeah. Don't forget
[159:53] about like your boss. Well, you're going
[159:54] to you're going to tell your boss,
[159:56] "Okay, you wear you wear Facebook
[159:58] glasses. I quit."
[159:59] >> Some people might have the luxury to do
[160:01] that. I guarantee you not everybody
[160:03] does.
[160:04] >> Most people won't. The vast majority of
[160:06] most people won't. Um, man, somebody
[160:09] said something in here. Where'd it go?
[160:13] No.
[160:18] Ah, I someone said places are
[160:20] successfully banning them. Um, and I I
[160:23] think I mentioned earlier that like you
[160:25] might be able to ban them in certain
[160:26] businesses and private places as well,
[160:29] >> but I think Lionus' for now is really
[160:32] important here. I'm not necessarily
[160:34] certain why he's saying for now, but my
[160:36] reason for for now. Um, is
[160:41] what about when it's not just meta?
[160:44] >> How do you keep up with all of the
[160:46] different glasses that are smart
[160:47] enabled?
[160:48] >> Dude, look at how many look at how many
[160:50] like tablets there are on AliExpress.
[160:54] How many brands of smart watches there
[160:57] are. You give it another five years and
[160:59] there's going to be literally a thousand
[161:03] different options for smart glasses.
[161:04] They are going to be smaller and sleeker
[161:07] than anything that we're looking at
[161:08] today.
[161:10] >> It's going to become very difficult to
[161:11] tell if there's a camera in it at all.
[161:13] Um,
[161:14] >> and in parallel,
[161:17] people are going to
[161:20] just sigh and shrug and go, "Well, it's
[161:22] inevitable." and are going to be less
[161:26] vigilant and it's just going to kind of
[161:29] they're going to get harder to notice
[161:31] and people are going to care less and
[161:33] those points are going to intersect and
[161:35] they will just kind of be everywhere and
[161:36] I hate to be defeist about it and by all
[161:39] means you should you should advocate
[161:42] strongly in your social circle for
[161:44] people you know not wearing them in
[161:46] situations where there's an expectation
[161:48] of privacy um and advocating for
[161:51] yourself and what you're comfortable
[161:53] with I'm I just I won't be super
[161:56] surprised when it maybe doesn't work.
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[163:13] Luke, this is why my GPU wasn't showing
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[163:19] I completely forgot that when we built
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[163:43] Well, there's your problem.
[163:44] >> Anyway, I fixed that yesterday. Uh, and
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[163:48] because I was like, "Oh, yeah, like
[163:50] what's um how's my how's my server
[163:53] capacity? Do I need any more drives?"
[163:54] And they're a great place. Okay, sorry.
[163:56] I'll read the thing. Uh, wait lists for
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[164:38] with server parts deals. We'll have a
[164:40] link down below. Sorry, it's server part
[164:44] deals, isn't it? Hold on, I'm going to
[164:45] double check. I can never remember.
[164:47] >> I thought it was parts, but my talking
[164:49] points say part.
[164:52] >> It's part.
[164:53] >> It is part. It is part. Don't go to
[164:55] server parts deals. I don't know what
[164:56] the heck that is. Server part deals.
[165:00] >> Good job, Lionus. Good podcast sponsor,
[165:02] Reed. Way to go. Screw up the name of
[165:04] the company.
[165:06] Thank you for that, Dan. That's very
[165:08] helpful.
[165:08] >> He's a professional. He's been doing
[165:10] this for 12 years.
[165:12] >> All right. Uh, okay. You got to do the
[165:13] next topic cuz I got to run to the
[165:14] washroom.
[165:16] >> Okay. Sure. Uh, one way to get real
[165:18] confused about pricing is to load up
[165:20] server part deals and have it
[165:21] automatically have the currency be in
[165:23] New Taiwanese dollars and have a hard
[165:25] drive cost $20,000.
[165:28] Uh, anyways, I was like, whoa, what
[165:32] happened?
[165:34] We're good. It's okay. Um, yeah, sure.
[165:38] We'll do this one. Uh, no. Los probably
[165:40] want to talk about that. Let's see.
[165:42] Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.
[165:47] >> Or we could get a couple comms out of
[165:49] the way.
[165:49] >> Yeah. This one's interesting. Sorry.
[165:50] >> Or we could get a couple comms out of
[165:52] the way for you specifically. Or do a
[165:53] topic, whatever you want. I don't think
[165:55] it'll be
[165:55] >> If you've got comms for me, we can do
[165:57] that. Yeah, sure.
[165:58] >> Yeah, why not? Let's see.
[165:59] >> If not, I got a topic here.
[166:00] >> Okay, cool. Um, if you haven't heard,
[166:03] there's a major Arch AUR supply chain
[166:05] attack happening right now.
[166:08] >> I have heard about that. I don't know
[166:10] all the details. Um, but yeah, I have
[166:13] heard about that. That sucks. Um, I
[166:16] think
[166:19] I feel like the server side of Linux is
[166:24] probably pretty well monitor monitored
[166:27] in terms of security, but with the user
[166:30] base on the desktop side being as small
[166:32] as it has been for years, I I don't
[166:35] know. Um
[166:37] it's it's going to get stress tested a
[166:40] little bit as there are waves and waves
[166:43] of people moving from from Windows over
[166:46] there and the the honeypot of being able
[166:49] to attack uh desktop Linux systems
[166:54] grows. Um
[166:57] it it's going to become more and more
[166:59] attractive for attackers. So we'll see
[167:03] how it all goes. Uh I I had at least one
[167:06] person reach out to me being like, "Are
[167:07] you okay cuz you're on Cashy?" I guess
[167:10] somewhat luckily for me. Um
[167:15] my my laptop is not my laptop is running
[167:18] Mint and Windows. My desktop is running
[167:20] Cache and Windows and I've been
[167:23] traveling for the last two and a half
[167:25] weeks. So my desktop is at home and
[167:27] powered down. So it has it has not hit
[167:30] me and as far as I've heard it's been
[167:32] fixed since then. So yeah, uh someone in
[167:35] chat said basically someone was uh
[167:37] sorry, S. John Trombley in chat said
[167:39] basically someone was adopting orphaned
[167:42] AUR packages and adding malicious calls
[167:45] to NPX
[167:47] uh in the install scripts.
[167:53] Yeah.
[167:56] Yeah. I
[167:59] I know a lot of people love the AUR
[168:03] I tend to try to lean
[168:07] away from it. I don't even know why.
[168:09] I've never actually had a reason. This
[168:10] was not a reason. And honestly, moving
[168:12] forward, I don't think this would be a
[168:14] reason. Um,
[168:17] I've just liked other ways of installing
[168:19] things so far, but you know, you do what
[168:22] you got to do sometimes. Anyways, you
[168:23] have another one?
[168:25] >> Yeah. What's your LLM of choice?
[168:28] >> Do
[168:30] flavor. uh flavor of the month.
[168:33] >> Yeah, kind of.
[168:35] >> Uh and if you're running like uh if
[168:38] you're running like T3 chat, it's really
[168:40] easy to skip through and use whichever
[168:43] one you want. Um they have a huge
[168:45] variety of options and they keep them up
[168:47] to date. Um I I find that's kind of a a
[168:51] fun way to use things is is T3 Chat
[168:53] because you can try so many different
[168:56] things out. Um and they have so many
[168:58] different options. Um, if you want to
[169:02] stay on top of things, that can be good.
[169:04] If you're not running local stuff, um,
[169:06] if you're running local stuff, if you're
[169:08] running something like Odysius, uh, you
[169:10] can you can cookbook every once in a
[169:12] while and see what things are good for
[169:14] you to run right now. I I don't
[169:16] necessarily even recommend having like
[169:19] one specific model of choice. Um, I
[169:22] think you kind of want to keep keep
[169:25] pushing, keep keep progressing with the
[169:28] with all the things. If you're if you're
[169:30] like up with the times enough to be
[169:33] using AI stuff in general, you might as
[169:35] well be up with the times enough to be
[169:38] um mobile with models to make sure that
[169:40] you're using the right stuff, the best
[169:41] stuff you can.
[169:44] >> Yeah.
[169:46] Do we want to talk about Canada's under
[169:48] 16 social media ban?
[169:52] >> Sure. I don't know a ton about it, but
[169:54] yeah. The Canadian federal government
[169:55] has introduced Bill C34, legislation
[169:58] that would ban kids under 16 from using
[170:01] social media platforms, particularly
[170:02] Facebook, Instagram, and Snapchat. The
[170:05] bill defines social media broadly as any
[170:07] site or app that lets users access and
[170:09] share content across provincial and
[170:11] global borders. Companies can get a pass
[170:14] if they set up proper safety measures
[170:16] for kids. However, the exact criteria
[170:18] will come later via official regulation.
[170:21] If passed, it would also put the
[170:22] responsibility on websites to protect
[170:25] children from harmful content, including
[170:27] cyber bullying. The bill would also
[170:30] create a digital safety commission to
[170:32] monitor sites for compliance, conduct
[170:34] audits, issue compliance orders, and
[170:35] dish out fines of either 3% of a
[170:38] company's global revenue or 10 million
[170:41] CAD, whichever's higher. Interestingly,
[170:44] AI chat bots won't be banned for kids
[170:47] under 16, but companies will need
[170:49] measures in place to deal with users
[170:50] expressing intent to commit violence or
[170:52] self harm. The bill would not, however,
[170:54] require chatbot companies to report
[170:56] these interactions to police.
[171:00] So, our discussion question is, unlike
[171:02] Australia's flat ban, this bill, if
[171:05] passed, would let platforms earn an
[171:07] exemption by proving adequate safeguards
[171:09] that don't exist yet. Is this a
[171:11] genuinely smarter way to incentivize big
[171:13] platforms to fix infinite scroll and
[171:15] addictive algorithms? Or is it just a
[171:16] lobbying backdoor where the exemption
[171:18] criteria gets watered down until
[171:20] everyone qualifies and nothing changes?
[171:23] I think only the time will tell. Uh,
[171:26] Electrobot asks a really good question.
[171:28] Maybe this is a more interesting
[171:29] discussion question. Why is this the
[171:30] only time we've ever heard of a fine
[171:32] that is a percentage of global revenue?
[171:34] That seems pretty smart. Um,
[171:36] >> that does seem pretty smart.
[171:37] >> If you want companies to actually, you
[171:39] know, stop doing a thing.
[171:41] >> Yeah. And the whichever is higher is
[171:43] like
[171:46] usually it's like whichever limit you
[171:47] reach first the opposite. Um, it's kind
[171:51] of fun. I have,
[171:54] it feels even weird to admit,
[171:57] but I have some hope in this being a
[172:02] genuinely smarter way to incentivize big
[172:04] platforms to fix infinite scrolling
[172:06] addictive algorithms over the loophole
[172:08] thing. The current Canadian admin has
[172:10] been doing, you know, not every step is
[172:13] is perfect, but has been doing some good
[172:16] stuff. And
[172:19] I have I have hope for the first time in
[172:21] a long time. So,
[172:22] >> are you ready for the other shoe to
[172:24] drop?
[172:25] >> Oh boy.
[172:26] >> Signal Duck.Go among firms weighing
[172:30] Canada exit over lawful access bill.
[172:33] >> Oh yeah. Yeah, good point. Yeah, this
[172:34] one blows. The big names in the VPN and
[172:37] privacy industry are threatening to pull
[172:39] out of Canada over Bill C-22, the lawful
[172:43] access bill, which would force service
[172:45] providers to retain user metadata for up
[172:47] to a year and build in ways for police
[172:50] and cis to access it. While the bill
[172:53] mainly targets core providers like the
[172:56] big satellite and telecom companies,
[172:58] VPNs are involved as the public safety
[173:01] minister can issue secret ministerial
[173:04] orders forcing any provider to comply.
[173:07] These orders only need sign off from the
[173:10] intelligence commissioner. No judicial
[173:12] warrant needed and providers aren't
[173:14] allowed to publicly say that the order
[173:16] exists. Signal told parliament that it
[173:19] would rather leave than betray its
[173:21] users. Duck.Go confirmed that it would
[173:24] pull its VPN, and NordVPN said it would
[173:26] consider all options, including leaving
[173:30] Canadian jurisdiction. Canadian-based
[173:33] Windscribe was the bluntest, saying it
[173:36] pays, quote, an ungodly amount of taxes
[173:40] to a government that now wants to spy on
[173:42] its own citizens and flatly stated that
[173:44] it will move its HQ out of the country
[173:46] if the bill passes.
[173:48] Even big tech.
[173:49] >> Apparently, this is directly supported
[173:52] by the current governing body. So, I got
[173:54] to take back what I said. My bad.
[173:56] >> Even big tech. Well, I I don't think you
[173:58] have to necessarily take back what you
[174:00] said. You did say with some exceptions.
[174:04] >> I guess this will be an extremely strong
[174:06] exception.
[174:07] >> Apple, Google, and Meta have all pushed
[174:10] back on the bill. And Apple has already
[174:12] shown its willingness to follow through
[174:14] on this kind of push back, having killed
[174:15] its encrypted cloud service in the UK
[174:17] over a similar sort of backdoor order.
[174:20] The public safety minister says
[174:22] amendments are coming to clarify that
[174:25] breaking encryption won't be allowed,
[174:28] but is holding firm on the one-year
[174:31] retention period. Our discussion
[174:33] question is, if privacy focused services
[174:36] actually exit Canada, does the bill end
[174:39] up making Canadians less safe by pushing
[174:41] them towards sketchier offshore
[174:43] alternatives, or is that an acceptable
[174:45] trade-off for giving police the tools
[174:47] they say they need?
[174:53] Uh, there's offshore alternatives that
[174:55] aren't that sketchy.
[174:57] Yeah,
[174:57] >> I think if people are using VPNs now in
[175:00] Canada, they will continue to be able to
[175:02] do so.
[175:03] >> If China with all of its technological
[175:06] wherewithal cannot figure out how to
[175:08] actually maintain the great firewall,
[175:12] don't get me wrong, Canada, love you.
[175:14] You're cool. Beavers, rocks and trees,
[175:17] modern stuff, very cool. I don't think
[175:20] you're gonna pull off um keeping
[175:23] offshore privacy tools out of Canada
[175:26] anyway. So, I'm I'm not convinced that
[175:30] this is going to make much of a
[175:32] difference. I could just continue to
[175:34] subscribe to Windscribe, who is now
[175:36] based in Europe somewhere.
[175:39] I don't know. I don't actually use
[175:41] Windscribe. I use PIA. But same same
[175:43] diff. I I'll just continue to subscribe
[175:45] to whatever service I already use in all
[175:48] likelihood.
[176:00] >> Norard says that this is deeply crappy,
[176:02] but would also depressingly only bring
[176:04] them up to parody with the Patriot Act.
[176:06] I actually don't know much about the
[176:08] Patriot Act. I haven't thought about it
[176:10] since like Snow actually. Has Snowden
[176:12] been in the news at all recently?
[176:15] >> I don't think so. I I looked him up
[176:17] recently actually. It seems like it
[176:26] >> Yeah, he's still living in Russia, it
[176:28] seems.
[176:29] >> Okay.
[176:30] Hasn't been uh drafted or anything.
[176:34] >> Yeah, I was going to say that's got to
[176:35] be an uncomfortable situation right now.
[176:40] Uh, what else we got here?
[176:43] AMD claims that its 256
[176:47] core Zen 6 Venice CPU beats Nvidia's
[176:51] Vera by 3.3x in rack level performance.
[176:55] They presented early projections showing
[176:58] that with both configured to the same
[177:01] 100,000W
[177:02] rack power envelope, they could
[177:04] dramatically outperform Nvidia's
[177:06] upcoming CPU. The comparisons based on
[177:08] estimated and modeled performance data,
[177:10] not completed side-by-side benchmarks of
[177:13] shipping products. And AMD describes the
[177:14] results as preliminary projections
[177:16] intended to indicate expected
[177:17] performance trends rather than final
[177:19] measured outcomes. Basically, this
[177:21] presentation was a response to Nvidia's
[177:24] own early Vera benchmarking campaign,
[177:26] which was based on Nvidia controlled
[177:28] testing. AMD's projections were built
[177:30] using methodology that was derived from
[177:33] those Vera results. And my notes go on,
[177:36] fight, fight, fight. Um, I mean, it's
[177:40] yeah, competition. It's cool. Always
[177:41] always fun to grab a grab a bucket of
[177:43] popcorn and watch. I do really feel that
[177:47] AMD might be maybe intentionally missing
[177:49] the point a little bit here. I don't
[177:51] think anybody is um I don't think
[177:54] anybody expects Vera to be like a top
[177:56] performing CPU. I think the whole point
[177:59] of it is just the the deep integration
[178:02] with uh the new Reuben GPUs. Um and I
[178:07] don't think Nvidia is trying to go for
[178:09] the general purpose CPU market, at least
[178:11] not at this time. But, uh, yeah. Hey,
[178:14] you you know what? Keep fighting AMD.
[178:17] >> Still kind of rooting for you even
[178:19] though you kind of really [ __ ] it up
[178:21] on the Thread Ripper side.
[178:25] >> Uh, me too, Dan.
[178:26] >> Speaking of
[178:28] >> Segways, uh, drone boat picked up downed
[178:31] US Army helicopter pilots, a first for
[178:34] sea rescues. After a US Army helicopter
[178:37] went down near the street of Hormuz
[178:38] while on patrol, its two pilots were
[178:40] rescued by a Corsair boat uh drone built
[178:45] by Seronic, a startup that makes
[178:47] autonomous surface vessels or ASVs.
[178:50] Using the vessel's 360° passive sensors,
[178:53] the Navy's Task Force 59 located the
[178:56] downed crew and picked them up within 2
[178:58] hours,
[179:00] bringing them to a safe spot on the
[179:02] water for a helicopter pickup. Important
[179:04] note, the Corsair's embedded AI software
[179:06] stack does the heavy lifting, handling
[179:08] immediate momentto- moment navigation.
[179:10] It dynamically plans paths around
[179:13] changing sea states and is supposedly
[179:15] able to continuously weight in position
[179:17] and regulate fuel and power consumption,
[179:20] only engaging the engine when needed.
[179:22] Peronic specs, the Corsair model is a 24
[179:26] ft ASV. We previously defined that, that
[179:29] can haul up to 1,000 lb across 1,000
[179:32] nautical miles. I really like that
[179:33] number. With a top speed of uh nope, not
[179:36] 1,000, 40 m per uh sorry,
[179:40] 40 mph. Uh Seronic has two other larger
[179:44] ASV models as well. And notably, this is
[179:46] believed to be the first unmanned sea
[179:49] rescue in US military history performed
[179:52] by boats that only entered into service
[179:54] in March. Imagine being
[179:57] the recipients of that. Um,
[180:01] yeah.
[180:03] >> I'm just looking for something. There's
[180:05] one last maybe topic here.
[180:11] Here we go.
[180:13] I'm going to forward this to Dan.
[180:19] Daniel Besser. There he is.
[180:23] All right. Before we get to After Dark,
[180:25] um Ashtech
[180:27] asked really nicely for me to do a bit
[180:30] of an update from them. So, if you're
[180:32] not familiar, Ashtech makes Hexos, which
[180:34] is the NAS software that I backed a
[180:37] little while ago.
[180:39] I did. It'll take a second.
[180:42] Um, so it's based on Trunaz, but it's
[180:45] like a a simplified front end slash also
[180:48] becoming a lot more than that, which is
[180:52] exactly what they uh wanted me to talk
[180:54] about. XOS lets you do so much more.
[180:58] Um,
[180:59] here are a few things. App preconfig.
[181:03] This feature is coming very soon in
[181:05] June, possibly next week. The first set
[181:07] of apps will be Plex, Jellyfin, and MBI.
[181:11] And what app preconfig is is basically
[181:14] like a one-click setup of apps like
[181:18] Plex. And they sent over a pretty cool
[181:20] little demo. Dan, do you have that
[181:22] hexosplex preconfig.mpp4?
[181:26] >> Did you get the email yet?
[181:29] >> Got him. Cool.
[181:32] >> Yes.
[181:33] >> Okay. Okay, so just to make it clear,
[181:35] this is never forced, but the goal is
[181:37] just to reduce the amount of steps
[181:39] required and cognitive load on the user
[181:40] to get a functional app experience,
[181:43] making apps far more applike and far
[181:46] less um
[181:49] figure out a whole bunch of crap like uh
[181:52] let me know when you're ready, Dan.
[181:57] >> Nope.
[181:59] >> Check this out, Luke.
[182:00] >> Ready?
[182:01] >> Yeah, go for it.
[182:03] There's a one minute time lapse, but
[182:05] basically this is the whole thing. So,
[182:07] see that preconfigure thing.
[182:12] >> Uh, so you sign in to your Plex because
[182:16] obviously like they can't sign in for
[182:18] you. You have to do that.
[182:20] >> Yeah, sure.
[182:21] >> Okay, there's your name and here we go.
[182:27] So, it obviously has to install the the
[182:29] Docker. And then on the left is the old
[182:32] way. This is actually a pretty cool
[182:34] little demo that they put together.
[182:38] Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
[182:41] blah. Go find folders. Blah blah blah
[182:44] blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
[182:46] blah blah blah blah.
[182:48] Finish configuring all the folders.
[182:52] >> Are they going to do this for Jellyfin?
[182:53] Have they done this for Jellyfin
[182:54] already? Uh, Plex, Jellyfin,
[182:58] and MB will be the first set of apps
[183:00] with this preconfigure
[183:02] thing.
[183:03] >> Cool.
[183:06] >> Launch.
[183:10] So, if you're using their preconfigured
[183:12] folder structure, which the idea is that
[183:16] you will, there it is. Oh, I love that.
[183:20] That's a nice touch. That's a nice
[183:22] touch. We got the LT screwdrivers in the
[183:25] >> Yeah,
[183:26] >> coming soon.
[183:28] MB and Jellyfin out of the box linking
[183:30] between the R apps and Cubit Torrent and
[183:32] much more. Okay, so they're being pretty
[183:34] explicit about that. Okay, thank you for
[183:37] that. Um,
[183:41] John,
[183:41] >> hell yeah. Hell yeah.
[183:45] >> Okay, what else they got? Uh, additional
[183:47] app curations are also available now. So
[183:49] these are ones that are just like
[183:50] validated but don't have necessarily
[183:53] that oneclick setup. So flatter that's a
[183:55] jellyfin front end. Uh Jellystat
[183:57] statistics app for jellyfin and MB. Seir
[184:00] is a request management and media
[184:01] discovery tool that works for jellyfin
[184:03] plexer MB servers. That's a pretty funny
[184:07] uh thing to call that. Request
[184:09] management and media discovery. Okay.
[184:12] MKV tool mix is a set of tools to
[184:14] create, alter, and inspect metrosa
[184:16] files. Gee, I wonder why you would need
[184:18] that. And key is a fast and powerful
[184:21] bittor web UI. There's also more coming
[184:24] over the next several weeks. And they
[184:27] wanted me to talk about any raid. So
[184:29] there's a webinar on June 25th that if
[184:31] you're into like ZFS RAID, uh you might
[184:35] want to actually check out. So Alan Jude
[184:37] of Clara Inc. and uh John Penazo of
[184:40] Eztec, creator of Hexos, will be hosting
[184:41] a joint webinar to discuss ZFS any raid.
[184:44] So, how it works is it improves
[184:46] traditional it produ uh improves storage
[184:48] space efficiency. Um, and you can learn
[184:51] more on the Clara website about how it
[184:54] differs from traditional RAID Z. Also,
[184:57] buddy backups, you know how that's that
[184:59] was one of my key conditions for this
[185:01] thing being a thing that I will
[185:04] financially back. There's a timeline.
[185:07] The team has been focused on buddy
[185:09] backups since the 1.0 release. Um,
[185:12] things are going quicker than
[185:13] anticipated and they're hoping for Q3 of
[185:15] this year. So, sometime in the next
[185:17] three and a half months, buddy backups.
[185:20] So, I just want to explain what buddy
[185:21] backups are. Um, pretty much you have a
[185:24] buddy, you know, like this is my buddy.
[185:28] You both have a hexos NAS and you can
[185:31] both install some extra storage in each
[185:33] other's servers and without uploading to
[185:37] any cloud or going to anybody else's
[185:39] service, you can send an encrypted copy
[185:42] that is stored on your buddy's server.
[185:45] You can allocate that storage to each
[185:47] other so that you don't go over the
[185:48] quota that you set and you can have a
[185:51] secure safe off-site backup on hardware
[185:55] that you or your buddy controls and
[185:57] nobody else needs to look at or touch.
[185:59] And really the magic is not in doing
[186:01] that. That's something that you could do
[186:02] today uh with open- source free tools.
[186:06] You could totally set up something like
[186:07] that literally tonight in your spare
[186:09] time. Uh but the part that is a little
[186:12] bit harder is doing so without opening
[186:14] ports and without going through a bunch
[186:16] of networking tom foolery and command
[186:19] line configuration. So this is like
[186:21] click and go. Uh which is pretty pretty
[186:26] exciting. Uh Amaria says as long as my
[186:28] buddy can't see it. Yes, that is
[186:30] absolutely
[186:32] critical is that it would be encrypted
[186:35] such that only you know what you have
[186:37] backed up to your buddy's system. Uh,
[186:39] also they asked me to flag that a
[186:41] lifetime pricing increase is coming
[186:43] soon. The 199 price point is coming to
[186:45] an end. No exact date, but likely in Q3.
[186:49] Uh, they need to deploy a new e-commerce
[186:50] solution to replace the blah blah blah
[186:52] blah blah. Once that's done, lifetime
[186:53] will be going to 299. So, just watch out
[186:55] for that. All right, that's it. There
[186:57] you go, John. I did your I did your
[186:59] thing. It's legitimately really exciting
[187:01] stuff. I'm really stoked for Buddy
[187:02] backup and the app curations and the
[187:05] one-touch uh onetouch setup looks like
[187:09] honestly awesome. Like setting up Plex
[187:11] isn't even that hard for me now. I've
[187:12] done it enough times or excuse me, I've
[187:15] done it enough times that it's like
[187:17] fine. I know how to do it, but it's
[187:19] tedious.
[187:21] I'd rather not if I could just click one
[187:24] button and it's done. And all I have to
[187:26] do is just, you know, put my movies in
[187:28] my movies folder and put my pictures in
[187:30] my pictures folder and then it'll just
[187:32] do it for me. Yeah, that's that's pretty
[187:35] cool.
[187:36] Oh, shoot. Sammy demands float plane
[187:38] announcement. Oh, I'm so sorry, Sammy. I
[187:40] totally forgot about you.
[187:42] >> Before you do that,
[187:45] >> we're pointing out potential liability
[187:47] risks of the buddy backup thing. Um,
[187:52] >> we've talked about this in the past. If
[187:54] it's an encrypted copy, I just don't
[187:56] really see
[187:58] >> Yeah. If you if you genuinely truthfully
[188:01] have no way to access it and it's
[188:04] encrypted. I could see like if they end
[188:06] up getting investigated or something,
[188:07] they might like seize your drive.
[188:09] >> Yeah.
[188:10] >> Uh which would suck obviously.
[188:12] >> Yeah,
[188:13] >> they might seize your whole server.
[188:15] >> So you should probably only do this with
[188:18] buddies. But I mean by this logic um
[188:24] if you uploaded an encrypted file with
[188:27] incriminating
[188:29] media to Google Drive like
[188:34] is Google criminally liable for this? I
[188:36] don't think so.
[188:39] So am I missing something here?
[188:41] >> I I that's kind of where
[188:45] Yes, they are.
[188:47] They aren't. They would have no way of
[188:49] knowing if it's encrypted. Yeah. I I
[188:52] think I think people are not fully
[188:54] understanding what encrypted means a
[188:57] little bit.
[188:58] If it's an encrypted container file and
[189:02] you upload it to Google, they don't know
[189:04] what's in it.
[189:06] >> They're saying they they can be
[189:08] compelled to turn it over.
[189:10] >> Sure. Turn it over to what? Unless it
[189:12] can be decrypted,
[189:15] then it's then it's a it's a blob of
[189:18] ones and zeros.
[189:24] >> One second. Hello.
[189:27] Oh, thank you.
[189:29] >> So, he tried angrily complaining we
[189:31] haven't done float plane announcement.
[189:33] Now, he's trying buttering you up to do
[189:34] float plane announcement. Which one's
[189:36] going to work?
[189:36] >> He He is. Yeah, I think uh I think we
[189:39] should do the float plane announcement.
[189:40] >> I think we should. Thanks, Sammy.
[189:42] >> Have you ever wondered what our travel
[189:44] weeks look like? Sammy vlogged his
[189:46] entire week in Taiwan. From the
[189:49] immediate airport. I don't know what
[189:52] immediate Oh, from the immediate airport
[189:55] to ASUS shoot to I don't know what he's
[189:59] talking about. What a week LMG looks
[190:02] like. Wait, is this the one? No, this is
[190:06] an old one. Sammy, what the crap is this
[190:08] link? What are you talking about?
[190:11] You put the wrong link. I think he's
[190:13] editing it now. I see his cursor in
[190:14] here. Is that Sammy? No, that's Dan.
[190:16] Okay. I don't know. Whatever.
[190:19] So, he vlogged his entire week from
[190:22] airport to Isus shoot to going out for
[190:24] dinner with Taran and Luke who tried
[190:25] stinky tofu for the first time. So, if
[190:27] you're into how we get videos done, then
[190:29] this vlog is for you. Uh, but maybe
[190:32] you're more into Linux. Bam. We have
[190:35] some stuff that was taken out of the
[190:37] part 4 Linux challenge video. just ended
[190:39] up on the cutting room floor. So, we've
[190:41] got some extra from there. We will also
[190:43] have a video fully showcasing Lionus's
[190:45] motorcycle shooting soon, so let us know
[190:48] what you want to see from it. Lionus
[190:49] hasn't agreed to do this video, but I'm
[190:51] voluntelling him to do this video.
[190:53] LMG.ggan.
[190:55] Um, Ivonne did shoot me. Oh, I forgot to
[190:59] bring that. Oh, I forgot to bring that
[191:01] phone for Glenn today. Oh, crap. Uh,
[191:04] well, I will do it on Monday. Uh, Ivonne
[191:06] shot me going to pick it up, Sammy. So,
[191:08] you'll be able to use that for whatever
[191:09] it is that you're doing.
[191:12] Sammy says, "This is what happens when
[191:13] you write the doc at 7:00 a.m."
[191:16] >> I added in the link for you, Sam.
[191:18] >> Okay, here's the here's the proper link
[191:20] to the proper vlog.
[191:22] >> There you go. What a week at LMG looks
[191:25] like. Sammy POV Taiwan edition.
[191:31] What's going on in this?
[191:35] What are we looking at here? Oh, they're
[191:36] trying to show the fan working using
[191:38] like hair.
[191:40] I I eventually figured it out by just
[191:42] ripping a bigger clump of hair out of my
[191:44] head. So, if you if you watch that
[191:47] video, um they were like they were
[191:49] trying to shoot one hair and it was
[191:51] really hard. But, um I was like, "No,
[191:55] guys, you just need more hair." So, I
[191:56] just like like grabbed a whole thing of
[191:59] hair out of my head and then it worked
[192:00] pretty good
[192:03] here. Let me see if I can find it. It's
[192:05] a pretty cool video actually. If you
[192:07] guys haven't seen it, you definitely
[192:08] want to check out the ionic uh ionic
[192:11] cooling video. This perfectly silent fan
[192:13] took 300 years to make. Oh my god, ads.
[192:16] Well, we're I can't believe Roundup is
[192:19] legal again. That's crazy.
[192:22] >> Yeah,
[192:23] >> dude. I didn't really like understand
[192:25] what it was and I went a little ham with
[192:27] Roundup attacking weeds on our lawn when
[192:29] I was a teenager and like
[192:32] >> destroy emulated it. My mom was she came
[192:34] out then like a day or two days later
[192:36] like it h it acts really fast. She was
[192:38] like what the is going on every the lawn
[192:40] is dead.
[192:42] Yeah. Anyway,
[192:44] I was mostly a good kid.
[192:49] All right. Should we start a uh
[192:53] should we start after dark?
[192:54] >> After dark?
[192:55] >> Yeah.
[192:55] >> Yes.
[192:58] >> If I can find it. Maybe they didn't put
[193:01] it in the edit. Maybe it was too gross.
[193:03] If someone has a time stamp, let me
[193:05] know. Otherwise, I give up.
[193:11] Hit me, Dan. Sure thing. Are you guys
[193:13] excited for Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of
[193:17] Time remake officially being teased for
[193:19] later this year? And Luke, do you plan
[193:22] on finally having something to play on
[193:24] your Switch 2?
[193:28] The thing that is finally going to be
[193:30] playable on my Switch 2 is that game
[193:32] that is a remake from my childhood.
[193:34] >> Yeah, the game that already came out.
[193:36] >> Um, yeah, really. Uh, I had no idea that
[193:40] was coming. That actually
[193:43] does sound pretty cool. That was a sick
[193:45] game. I feel like it would still be
[193:47] really fun.
[193:50] >> Um,
[193:51] >> haven't played it in a billion years, so
[193:53] it might be fun to run through again.
[193:54] I'm sure I actually Sure, I remember a
[193:57] lot of it, but also don't remember a lot
[194:00] of it. So, yeah.
[194:03] >> I was not an Ocarina of Time kid. I
[194:05] didn't have an N64. My friend had an
[194:07] N64, but I um like I'm not like, but I'm
[194:11] going to go to my friend's house and I'm
[194:12] going to sit and play single player
[194:13] games.
[194:15] >> That's That's not That's not cool. So, I
[194:18] have tried to play Ocarina of Time
[194:22] on at least three occasions. Um, I think
[194:26] I actually own it for Virtual Console on
[194:28] my Wii and I tried it at least a couple
[194:31] times there and I tried it at least once
[194:33] emulated and I just
[194:36] um haven't managed to get into it. I
[194:40] have played through Link to the Past. I
[194:43] have played through most of The Legend
[194:44] of Zelda like the in the NES one. I've
[194:47] played through um Phantom Hourglass.
[194:50] I've played through uh Twilight
[194:53] Princess. I've played through Breath of
[194:54] the Wild. I'm like actually as far as
[194:57] game franchises go, I'm I'm as much into
[195:00] Zelda as I am into any franchise and I
[195:03] just
[195:05] couldn't Ocarina of Time. I'm so sorry
[195:08] to my fellow Zelda faithful.
[195:13] Question for Lionus. When Dbrand wants
[195:16] to do a sponsor with certain stunts,
[195:19] like uh the box of glass with a phone in
[195:21] it, do they tell the team or get any
[195:23] approval? Yeah, I genuinely typically
[195:27] don't know about it,
[195:31] which there's good things about that and
[195:34] there's also somewhat irritating things
[195:36] about that sometimes.
[195:40] Like there's been stuff that I've had to
[195:42] be like, "Yeah, no.
[195:46] Not very often, especially now that you
[195:49] know we understand each other pretty
[195:50] well. But um it has happened.
[195:54] So make of that what you will.
[195:57] >> Hello from Edmonton.
[195:59] >> Hi Edmonton.
[196:00] >> I drive a garbage truck. They have
[196:02] recently installed AI nanny cameras into
[196:05] our trucks. I find they encourage
[196:07] dangerous habits. I worry insurance
[196:10] could start demanding them. thoughts.
[196:14] >> Dangerous habits.
[196:17] I would love to hear more about what
[196:21] potential dangerous habits a nanny
[196:23] camera could encourage.
[196:27] >> Cuz I'm sure I believe you.
[196:29] >> That's gross. But yeah, I don't know.
[196:33] >> Like I genuinely believe you, but I
[196:35] don't I'm having a hard time imagining
[196:38] what that might be. I really wish I
[196:41] could have a little bit more context
[196:42] here.
[196:43] >> Maybe if you're operating too slowly, it
[196:46] gets mad at you.
[196:48] >> I could see that reaching production
[196:50] quotas.
[196:53] Um,
[196:55] also protos have increot increased this
[196:58] week. Get owned. Um,
[197:01] >> yeah, that makes that makes sense.
[197:04] >> I'm not sure though. I don't know.
[197:07] >> Oh, man. Okay, so
[197:10] this is Oh man. Okay, sorry. This is
[197:12] about to go a little bit off the rails
[197:14] here because my immediate knee-jerk
[197:16] reaction is like, "Yeah, nanny camera is
[197:17] terrible." Um, and then that made me
[197:22] think of like something that I was going
[197:24] to post as a tweet or something. I I was
[197:27] just going to do like a and obviously
[197:28] it's an observation that's been made
[197:30] many many times, but I wanted to post a
[197:32] picture of the like the pedal well of my
[197:35] Uber driver and there would be a brake
[197:37] pedal and then just like an onoff toggle
[197:40] switch on on the gas pedal. Um, and it
[197:45] it was I was thinking as I was sitting
[197:47] getting like violently nauseous in the
[197:50] back of a cabin or of an Uber in Taiwan,
[197:53] um, that ironically had one of those Did
[197:56] you ever see these those rule signs in
[197:57] the back of the Ubers there that will
[197:59] say like no smoking, no whatever, no
[198:01] throwing up. There's some that say no
[198:03] barfing. Um, it's like, bro, I wouldn't
[198:06] be choosing to vomit, but if you're
[198:08] going to drive like this, you're really
[198:10] putting me in a pretty awkward position.
[198:13] Um,
[198:14] anyway, it was it was occurring to me as
[198:16] I was sitting in the back of this Uber,
[198:18] not able to do anything other than stare
[198:20] out the front windcreen and hope that
[198:22] I'm not going to throw up that um it
[198:25] would be so easy for Uber to fix this
[198:28] problem by just using the [ __ ]
[198:31] accelerometer data that's already in the
[198:33] phone that the Uber driver absolutely
[198:35] has to have
[198:37] and just logging that and being like,
[198:39] "Hey, you need to chill the [ __ ] out on
[198:42] the brake pedal and the gas pedal so
[198:44] that your drive so that your passenger
[198:46] doesn't throw up in the back of your
[198:48] car. Like honestly, my driver to the
[198:51] airport was insane. And then I had at
[198:53] least two while I was in Taipei that
[198:56] just
[198:59] like crazy.
[199:01] >> Take a car to the airport.
[199:02] >> Sorry.
[199:03] >> Why' you take a car to the airport?
[199:05] >> Cuz it's cheaper.
[199:07] >> It's cheaper than the train.
[199:08] >> Yeah. If I'm gone for like 7 days. Wait,
[199:10] sorry. What are you asking? I'm supposed
[199:12] to take the train to the airport
[199:15] >> from my house.
[199:15] >> Oh, I thought you meant Sorry. Sorry. I
[199:17] thought you meant from the hotel in
[199:18] Taipei to the airport.
[199:19] >> No, no, no, no, no. From No, from V in
[199:21] Vancouver.
[199:22] >> Okay. Yeah. No, I understand. Okay.
[199:24] >> Yeah. So, once I'm once I'm gone for
[199:26] like I think I think the threshold is 5
[199:27] days or something like that. If I'm gone
[199:29] for more than 5 days, then it's cheaper
[199:31] to
[199:32] >> being so expensive. No, I got you. I
[199:33] thought I thought you Yeah, my um
[199:36] anyway. So, yeah. So, you've had you
[199:37] have the GeForce data from the phone.
[199:39] And then also another thing that just
[199:41] triggered the crap out of me is I went
[199:43] to leave like a three-st star review
[199:45] because realistically, we didn't crash,
[199:47] you know, they didn't like kill me, but
[199:49] also I was feeling really sick. And you
[199:52] know how it prompts you? It's like,
[199:53] okay, well, what was the issue?
[199:55] Nausea is not in there.
[199:59] How is it that with such a like
[200:01] universal meme, Uber drivers and their
[200:05] ridiculous acceleration and braking, how
[200:08] is it that that is not in there as an
[200:11] issue with your ride? That's crazy. It
[200:14] has to be intentional. There is no way
[200:18] that that's not intentional.
[200:20] It's It's weird that that's a known
[200:22] thing because you'd think that would be
[200:25] worse for gas and worse for car
[200:28] maintenance.
[200:32] >> I don't get it, dude.
[200:33] >> I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
[200:34] >> It doesn't seem that complicated to make
[200:37] small adjustments to the gas pedal. I
[200:39] mean, and maybe part of it is just that
[200:41] I've been married to someone with like
[200:43] serious motion sickness issues for a
[200:46] thousand years. Um, and so I just I just
[200:50] automatically adjust my driving style
[200:53] when I have a when I have a passenger.
[200:55] Like when I'm in my car on my own,
[200:56] whatever. I don't care. I'll just open
[200:57] it up, right? Like it who cares? It's
[200:59] me. I'm not going to get sick driving my
[201:01] own car. But when I have a passenger,
[201:03] I'm like like trying to be smooth about
[201:06] it. And I guess maybe they just like
[201:08] never had anybody tell them. I don't
[201:10] know. I don't know.
[201:14] It just seems like they they do care
[201:17] about a lot of passenger issues. Why is
[201:19] nausea not one of them when it's just
[201:21] such a meme?
[201:27] My son listens to the show with me and
[201:30] your videos have him interested in tech
[201:32] and programming, but I worry about him
[201:34] watching other online content from tech
[201:37] bros. Any suggestions for young
[201:39] enthusiasts? Man, this is one of those
[201:42] classic questions people ask me that I
[201:44] just really don't know the answer to
[201:45] because the truth is I just don't
[201:47] consume a lot of YouTube.
[201:51] Sorry, Wendell. Wendell's like the most
[201:54] wholesome person that I know. Level one
[201:56] text is a little technical, but like
[202:00] >> he also explains things really well.
[202:03] >> Yes.
[202:04] >> I figure if you watch enough level one
[202:06] text, eventually you'll have some idea
[202:07] what the heck he's talking about. This
[202:09] was a young enthusiast of of what? Linux
[202:11] was it?
[202:13] >> No, just tech and programming.
[202:16] >> Tech and programming.
[202:23] I don't think Wendle goes over
[202:26] programming much,
[202:28] >> but tech.
[202:29] >> Tech definitely. Yeah.
[202:32] Yeah.
[202:34] I think a lot of the
[202:37] YouTubers I watched when I was trying to
[202:39] learn programming, I don't know if
[202:41] they're even still around. Um,
[202:44] let me see if I can
[202:48] if they are still.
[202:52] Maxwell in float plane chat says
[202:54] Hacksmith, Mark Robber, Michael Reeves,
[202:58] the one YouTube shorts guy. Is that what
[203:00] they're actually called or are you just
[203:03] memeing?
[203:05] Oh,
[203:06] >> the stuff that he just mentioned is is
[203:08] very fun on the entertainment side of
[203:09] things, but not necessarily the
[203:10] education side of things.
[203:11] >> Technology connections. Sure. Oh, yeah.
[203:14] Bent Bob says Lori Wired. That's that's
[203:16] that's a cool place to hang out.
[203:18] >> Definitely. That one would be really
[203:20] good, especially for inspiration.
[203:21] >> Yeah. Okay. There's a few there's a few
[203:23] good ones.
[203:25] >> I haven't watched this channel since I
[203:27] went to BCIT.
[203:30] So, it's been a hot minute, but I used
[203:33] to watch uh the New Boston for Java
[203:37] tutorials
[203:39] a million years ago.
[203:40] >> Oh my god, that's a name I haven't heard
[203:42] in a thousand years.
[203:44] >> Do you recognize that name?
[203:45] >> Yes.
[203:46] >> Yeah.
[203:47] >> Oh, that hurts.
[203:48] >> Um,
[203:50] yeah. Java programming tutorial one,
[203:52] installing the SDK from 17 years ago has
[203:54] 6.8 million views.
[203:57] >> Oh, Anie. Hey, Cash has another really
[203:59] good one. Branch education is amazing.
[204:02] >> Oh, branch education is sick.
[204:04] >> Yeah,
[204:05] >> that's a that's a great one.
[204:06] >> That should be enough to keep them busy
[204:07] until it's time for you to order
[204:08] something else from the store.
[204:09] >> Yeah, I like it.
[204:12] >> All right, hit me down.
[204:13] >> Hey, Luke and Linus. My boss is the
[204:15] executive at my work and I spend a lot
[204:18] of time ensuring he gets all his tasks
[204:20] done. As executives yourselves, do you
[204:23] have any insight how I can manage this
[204:25] better?
[204:27] Vance, Vance, are you still here?
[204:29] >> Yeah, you're asking the wrong person.
[204:31] Um,
[204:34] >> uh,
[204:36] I mean, making sure that the calendar is
[204:39] like set up with realistic amounts of
[204:43] time for things, I think, is really
[204:44] helpful. Um,
[204:45] >> yeah, consider travel time when booking
[204:47] things.
[204:48] >> Yeah, that's really helpful. Um,
[204:50] >> try not to actually book things exactly
[204:52] back to back all the time because
[204:54] sometimes the brain needs a little bit
[204:56] of a reset or you need to grab a water
[204:58] or go to the washroom or there's travel
[205:00] time involved or something. Um, I find a
[205:03] lot of my days I end up like pushing
[205:05] meetings back just constantly to the
[205:07] point where it's like almost a meme. And
[205:09] one of the reasons why is because I'll
[205:11] have like six hours straight
[205:15] of meetings with zero breaks between
[205:17] them that often do involve some form of
[205:20] like travel time or something else.
[205:21] >> And all of this is quite literally
[205:24] impossible. Like I Yeah.
[205:26] >> Um be be cognizant of decision fatigue.
[205:29] I'm going to use the horrible AI
[205:31] overview. Here we go. A state of mental
[205:33] exhaustion caused by making repeated
[205:35] choices throughout the day. Um, and
[205:39] every decision contributes to it. It's
[205:42] It's actually really interesting. It was
[205:43] something that I experienced for a lot
[205:45] longer than I knew what it was. But
[205:48] like, it was always very obvious to me
[205:51] that I should not think about my
[205:53] wardrobe at all in the morning. I should
[205:54] simply grab whatever t-shirt is at the
[205:56] top of my pile and whatever pants are at
[205:58] the top of my pile and just put them on
[206:00] because I don't have room in my brain to
[206:03] to think about that. and then also all
[206:05] the other things that I need to think
[206:07] about in a given day. Um, and so it it
[206:10] manifests in like weird ways like when
[206:11] I'm having a really intense morning
[206:14] already
[206:15] like Vance will ask me like hey do you
[206:17] want me to get something for you and for
[206:19] lunch and I'll be like uh and literally
[206:23] I can't think of what to eat. Um, and so
[206:25] that's just it's like it's a obviously a
[206:27] super first world problem, but finding
[206:31] ways to manage out
[206:34] pointless decisions that don't matter um
[206:38] so that they have mental capacity left
[206:42] for things that actually do have an
[206:43] impact on the business is something that
[206:45] I would say would be helpful.
[206:47] >> Yeah.
[206:50] >> Hi, Lionus. As a fellow lover of soup
[206:53] dumplings, I saw you went to Dintai at
[206:56] Computex. I've only been to one in the
[206:59] US, and I'm wondering if it's the same
[207:01] in North America. Have you ever tried it
[207:03] in Canada?
[207:04] >> I haven't. I think they mean California.
[207:06] Um I
[207:08] >> We actually have one.
[207:09] >> We have one.
[207:09] >> One.
[207:10] >> Yeah.
[207:11] >> Where?
[207:12] >> Uh I I looked earlier. Alurnie.
[207:16] >> Port Alurnie has a dent. No, the street.
[207:19] No, Alurnie Street. Oh, it's in
[207:20] Vancouver.
[207:22] >> Oh, that's hilarious. Vancouver.
[207:24] >> It is on Old Bernie Street. Yeah. Is
[207:26] that the same one?
[207:29] >> Is it like a change?
[207:30] >> It's the same company.
[207:32] >> It's a Yeah.
[207:33] >> locations.
[207:34] >> As far as my understanding goes, it is.
[207:35] Yeah.
[207:36] >> It's the same as all the other North
[207:39] America ones,
[207:41] but I don't see any actual
[207:45] Taiwan locations
[207:48] here.
[207:50] Dintyong North America. Okay, I don't
[207:53] actually know if this is the same
[207:54] company. Um, my my ah man, this is Oh,
[207:58] dude. I'm going to get cancelled for
[208:00] this for sure. Dentong is overrated.
[208:03] >> There, I said it. Oh, I was excited to
[208:05] try it. I love dumplings.
[208:06] >> It's No, it's I didn't say it's bad.
[208:09] >> By all means, try it. But there's
[208:10] >> It's not the best thing ever. It's the
[208:11] worst. Obviously.
[208:13] >> No. Is it overrated? Is it overrated?
[208:16] Because you've probably, I'm not
[208:18] exaggerating at all, had it 50 plus
[208:21] times.
[208:22] >> No, I've only been to Dintyang, I think,
[208:24] twice.
[208:26] >> Ever?
[208:27] >> Yeah.
[208:28] >> There's no way. I've been with you to
[208:29] Daang more than two times.
[208:31] >> Okay. Every time I've gone, I was with
[208:32] you then. Like, I've never gone there of
[208:34] like my own accord.
[208:36] >> Okay.
[208:37] >> So, like three times then.
[208:39] >> Um, almost like the soup dumplings at
[208:42] the hole in the wall down the road from
[208:44] our hotel are better.
[208:46] It's just straight up better.
[208:48] >> No, that's true. That is a really good
[208:49] spot.
[208:49] >> Like I just I've
[208:51] >> I have had
[208:53] Xiaoong Bao and other soup dumplings
[208:56] >> at a variety of other places in Taiwan
[208:58] that are worse.
[208:59] >> And Taiong,
[209:01] >> one of the problems with Dintyong is
[209:02] that it it is not the best. It's really
[209:06] solid and it's very consistent, but it's
[209:08] not the best.
[209:10] >> Very expensive compared to pretty much
[209:12] everywhere else.
[209:13] >> So expensive. Like I pay practically
[209:15] nothing for those ones down the street.
[209:17] I watch them make them. They taste
[209:20] freaking incredible. And then Dintyong
[209:23] is like it's fine.
[209:25] >> And to be clear, I didn't say bad. I
[209:28] just said overrated
[209:31] >> because people just like cream their
[209:33] freaking pants talking about how amazing
[209:35] Dint Taiong is. And I'm like, "Yeah,
[209:38] it's good, but like
[209:41] it better be the best thing ever at that
[209:43] price and with that reputation and with
[209:46] that long of a wait to get into it."
[209:48] >> Yeah. Like I I know people say like,
[209:50] "Oh, if you're coming to Taipei, you
[209:51] have to get Dint Taiong."
[209:54] >> Say, "No, if you're going to Taipei, you
[209:56] should
[209:57] >> get really good soup dumplings."
[209:59] >> Yes.
[210:00] >> Um some really good xiaolong bao.
[210:03] >> Yeah. And like I've had better beef
[210:05] noodles. places you can get that.
[210:06] >> I've had better beef noodles like many
[210:08] many times. I would say Dint Taiung is
[210:10] like a solid B minus for beef noodles.
[210:14] >> Yeah, that sounds about right.
[210:15] >> Like it's
[210:16] >> everything there other than their their
[210:18] dumplings are kind of whatever.
[210:19] >> It's fine.
[210:21] >> Yeah. It's also incredibly consistent. I
[210:25] I don't know if I've been basically
[210:27] anywhere that's as consistent as Dinton
[210:29] is, which makes it pretty good. It's
[210:34] also it's highly unoffensive and it's
[210:36] extremely consistent. So, it makes it
[210:38] pretty good for like meetings.
[210:39] >> Yeah, it's kind of westerner friendly.
[210:41] Like they have something to eat for the
[210:43] people in your party.
[210:44] >> Basically, everyone
[210:45] >> don't eat seafood or you know, whatever.
[210:47] >> It's one of the easiest things to be
[210:49] like, "Oh, we have like 10 people and we
[210:51] all need to get dinner. What is a place
[210:52] we can all agree on?" And usually that
[210:55] place does work.
[210:56] >> Yeah.
[210:57] >> Um
[210:59] >> Yeah.
[211:02] Question for whoever feels like
[211:03] answering. Do you guys ever think we
[211:06] will have a solution for kernel level
[211:07] antiche on Linux? If yes, what can it
[211:10] be? Will I ever see Lol or BF running on
[211:13] Arch? By the way, okay, I got an
[211:17] absolute wall of text about our
[211:20] discussion
[211:22] regarding anti-che on Linux a couple of
[211:26] weeks ago.
[211:28] >> Whoa. from someone who was very upset
[211:30] about like seriously I'm still going.
[211:34] Um,
[211:36] and
[211:37] >> I got I got some of my stuff taken
[211:38] pretty dramatically out of context on
[211:40] that topic. Um basically the take was
[211:45] there's really good tools in Linux for
[211:48] managing all of this and it wouldn't be
[211:50] necessary to have kernel level antiche
[211:54] on Linux because of like how how well
[211:58] you know managed it is
[212:02] but I acknowledge that no current DRO
[212:06] has actually like you know implemented
[212:09] this level of of of lockdown that would
[212:12] give developers the confidence to to do
[212:16] it. So it's maybe something for it to
[212:20] figure out later or something was I I
[212:22] read the whole thing but it was like a
[212:25] week ago or something like that. When
[212:26] did I read this? Yeah, I read this about
[212:27] a week ago and I was just like okay. So
[212:30] basically nothing that Luke or I said
[212:32] about the unlikelihood of this happening
[212:35] due to the very open nature of Linux is
[212:38] actually untrue. Um because
[212:42] the Linux crowd is very like, you know,
[212:45] own your hardware, do whatever you want
[212:47] with your hardware. Oh, by the way, also
[212:49] your software, too. The likelihood of
[212:52] this kind of a dro existing
[212:55] seems very
[212:57] low.
[212:59] Um
[213:02] yeah, it's I don't know. the the
[213:04] cheating situation is
[213:08] really really bad right now. Um,
[213:13] all shooter games are rampant with it.
[213:17] Usually when shooter games have an open
[213:19] beta for a weekend, people are found
[213:22] rage cheating
[213:25] on that one weekend. Like, it's it's
[213:27] it's wild. Shooter games are basically
[213:29] cooked. Um,
[213:32] Counter-Strike lobbies are just riddled
[213:34] with cheaters all the time. There was a
[213:36] massive bandwave recently. Um, I was all
[213:40] pissed over Tarov years ago. Um, and
[213:45] then lo and behold, it just turned out
[213:47] it's every shooter game just has
[213:49] cheaters everywhere. Um, they're also
[213:52] highly prevalent in like basically every
[213:54] other game. Um, cheating is really
[213:57] brutal and really rampant right now. And
[213:58] it's honestly like ruining competitive
[214:01] multiplayer gaming. Um,
[214:04] >> are you sure you're not just unk?
[214:07] >> Actually, yes. Um, the cheating
[214:10] situation is way worse than ever. The
[214:12] reason why the cheating situation is way
[214:13] worse than ever is because money is
[214:15] highly involved now. Um,
[214:17] >> there's so much money which is crazy.
[214:19] The the reason the the only reason why
[214:21] I'm sure not just UNC to be clear cuz I
[214:23] could be um is because I watch people
[214:26] like Shroud I think I talked about this
[214:28] on W show before Shroud went back and
[214:30] played Counterstrike on Shroud's not
[214:32] servers.
[214:33] >> Shroud is not Shroud is still a god.
[214:36] >> I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
[214:38] >> When when Shroud stops being a god, I'll
[214:40] I'll probably be dead. Um but
[214:44] Shroud went back and played
[214:45] Counter-Strike on normal servers and
[214:46] there was a cheater in like literally
[214:47] every lobby he was in. like it's
[214:49] actually just it's insane. So, it's a
[214:53] touchy subject and having
[214:58] worse
[215:02] anti-che on Linux when the situation is
[215:04] as bad as it is um
[215:08] can can suck for some people, especially
[215:11] when it's an like an uneven playing
[215:13] field of anti-che, if that makes sense.
[215:16] where you can play the game on Windows
[215:19] or Linux, but the Linux one has like
[215:22] less anti-che than the Windows one does.
[215:26] Um,
[215:28] which could bring a bad reputation to
[215:30] Linux because then there's a higher
[215:31] chance uh a higher perceived chance that
[215:36] the cheaters might be running Linux. Um,
[215:40] I don't know. It's a tough situation. I
[215:42] also am highly acutely aware that these
[215:47] kernel level anti-cheats exist in the
[215:49] environment of oh my god we've never
[215:51] seen this many cheaters before. So
[215:53] clearly they're not working anyways. Uh
[215:56] it's it's a tough spot. Um I think
[215:59] there's a lot of people that don't want
[216:01] kernel level anti-che coming to Linux
[216:03] and I can sure understand that. That
[216:05] would blow. I don't know how we solved
[216:08] the cheating problem.
[216:11] Um,
[216:13] I know that right now the main way that
[216:16] anti-che systems are getting on Linux is
[216:19] they're just more lax than they are on
[216:21] Windows. At least I believe that's
[216:23] what's happening. Um,
[216:28] again, I don't really know if it matters
[216:30] that much if
[216:32] most of these cheats are getting around
[216:34] these systems anyways.
[216:36] So,
[216:38] >> just to clarify my from my wall of text,
[216:41] uh, nothing would prevent a regular DRO
[216:43] and game developers from implementing
[216:45] it. But with all that context, and there
[216:48] was a lot, I'd say you might even be
[216:50] right in that who knows if companies
[216:52] will want to put in the time to make
[216:53] these things work. Um,
[216:59] yeah.
[217:01] So,
[217:03] I
[217:05] Yeah I
[217:06] Captain Immortal is saying I think
[217:08] cheaters al sorry I think we've got some
[217:09] lag issues. I think cheaters are also
[217:11] spoofing being on Linux to get a lower
[217:13] anti-che even when they're on Windows.
[217:15] Um I don't Yeah, I don't know. Um it's
[217:19] just again I don't even know if it
[217:20] matters. Like we have we have this
[217:22] insane cheating problem
[217:25] and we have kernel level antiche. So
[217:27] it's like
[217:29] I don't know if it helps. I was reading
[217:31] an article recently saying it's going to
[217:33] move like even higher up the
[217:37] I I forget what even space we're in
[217:39] above kernel
[217:42] um lower.
[217:45] >> Hold on. I there's no way I'm going to
[217:47] be able to find this article right now.
[217:50] Forget it.
[217:51] >> Yeah, Denrix is saying BF6 had like a
[217:53] day one of beta cheat. Um there's
[217:56] someone else saying that Arc Raiders has
[217:58] a rampant cheating problem right now.
[217:59] It's what I'm finding is with basically
[218:02] every shooter game, you have to wait for
[218:04] like with Tarov, you have to basically
[218:06] wait for a wipe and then you can play
[218:07] for a couple months and then it gets too
[218:09] bad. Um, with other games, you have to
[218:11] wait for like a ban wave or some major
[218:14] release and then you can play for a
[218:15] little bit and then it will get too bad.
[218:17] >> Um,
[218:19] it's like the the the gaps between banan
[218:22] waves
[218:24] are basically just unplayable. Um, and
[218:28] and it's kind of interesting cuz it's
[218:30] making this like cycle of firstp person
[218:33] shooter games where people will jump
[218:34] from game to game in between these banan
[218:37] waves and like what an insane situation.
[218:40] Um, Griffon says firmware anti-che.
[218:43] Yeah, I think it was like at the
[218:44] firmware level, but I forget how they
[218:46] were trying to implement that. I forget
[218:48] what that was supposed to look like. Um,
[218:51] and I don't want to get anything wrong,
[218:52] but it was like it was like even deeper
[218:55] embedded into the system. And I just I
[218:57] forget what um what the kind of plan
[219:00] was, what the direction we were going
[219:02] was. And I mean, again, all of this
[219:06] is sort of a it's an it's an it's a it's
[219:08] a it's an arms race that can never be
[219:10] won because in the age of machine vision
[219:14] and robotic arms, which is coming, you
[219:17] will be able to cheat without any
[219:21] software installed on the system at all.
[219:26] At some point, you know, if you build a
[219:28] perfect antiche,
[219:30] someone will build a robot arm that
[219:33] emulates the slight, you know, movement
[219:36] of a human hand, but then just moves as
[219:40] quickly as possible to I don't
[219:42] understand why people even want this. As
[219:44] someone who just plays games for the fun
[219:47] of actually competing against people, I
[219:49] don't understand why people are paying
[219:51] for this. But if someone will pay for a
[219:53] software that moves the crosshair to
[219:56] their opponent, then I see no reason why
[219:58] they wouldn't also pay for a hardware
[220:00] that moves their mouse across their
[220:01] mouse pad that moves the crosshair to
[220:04] the opponent. It seems
[220:05] >> and they will play they will pay a ton
[220:08] of money for that thing that you don't
[220:11] understand why they would pay for it.
[220:13] Some of these cheats are incredibly
[220:14] expensive and subscription basis as
[220:17] well.
[220:18] Um, that was uncovered when people were
[220:21] diving into the Tarov stuff. People are
[220:23] paying hundreds of dollars a month.
[220:26] >> Charge Nuclei says, "Pay a better player
[220:30] to play the game for you." I mean,
[220:32] >> only trillionaires can afford that sort
[220:34] of thing.
[220:35] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[220:36] >> Yeah.
[220:39] >> Yeah. That also happens.
[220:42] >> Uh, some more for you.
[220:44] >> Yeah. Hit me.
[220:46] >> Hi. Bad cholesterol. Luke, any cool
[220:49] techy tours you've been on that you can
[220:51] talk about
[220:54] techy tours?
[220:57] H.
[221:01] Yes, absolutely. I don't know how much I
[221:03] can say about them. We got to see um
[221:07] Intel's performance testing lab.
[221:09] >> Mhm.
[221:10] >> That was really cool. We got to see some
[221:13] stuff at Qualcomm. That was really cool.
[221:16] We got to see
[221:19] more recently
[221:21] uh some of the people from the lab went
[221:23] down to Puget Systems to see some of
[221:26] their like lab stuff similar to ours and
[221:30] talk shop for a while. That was really
[221:31] awesome. It was interesting to see
[221:35] kind of the differences
[221:37] uh because they have they have a
[221:39] different use case for their lab than
[221:40] than ours. um they're mostly interested
[221:44] in in testing hardware that they will be
[221:48] selling if that makes sense. So there's
[221:50] kind of a narrower scope of the things
[221:52] that they need to test. They're also
[221:55] testing like patches of things u to see
[221:57] if anything major changes or if things
[221:59] break or whatever. It's very
[222:01] interesting. Uh different goals but very
[222:03] interesting. Um
[222:08] what can I really say about them? It's
[222:10] been very surprising to me.
[222:17] Got to frame this in the right way.
[222:24] Yeah, it's been very surprising to me
[222:26] how close tech YouTubers are to some of
[222:31] these really big companies in regards to
[222:34] their testing capabilities.
[222:36] >> Oh, yeah.
[222:37] It's I I didn't realize how advanced the
[222:41] tech YouTube space was. To be completely
[222:44] honest, I was expecting walking into
[222:46] some of these big companies, seeing
[222:47] their performance testing labs and
[222:49] evaluation labs and like having my brain
[222:51] explode. And I walked in there and was
[222:53] like, "Yeah, okay. I mean, I recognize
[222:56] most of this." There was some weird
[222:58] stuff. I'm I'm going to start getting
[222:59] more vague about where we were cuz I'm
[223:01] talking about areas that I wasn't able
[223:02] to bring a camera. Um, but there was
[223:05] some stuff that got into like the radio
[223:07] side of things, um, like wireless
[223:10] technologies that got a little like, oh,
[223:13] okay, that's interesting. Um,
[223:17] >> and testing of like cameras and camera
[223:20] software and stuff that that that also
[223:23] got pretty outside of the the wheelhouse
[223:26] of what I've seen from from obviously us
[223:29] included, but tech YouTubers in general.
[223:31] Um, but in in regards to like standard
[223:34] performance.
[223:36] >> Yep.
[223:37] >> Yeah.
[223:37] >> As soon as you walk into like a failure
[223:39] analysis lab, you're going to see single
[223:41] pieces of equipment that are worth more
[223:43] than our entire lab, including the
[223:45] building.
[223:46] >> But
[223:47] >> yeah, like we we ain't doing that.
[223:48] There's there's no stuff. But when we're
[223:50] talking about performance testing,
[223:51] >> measuring frame rates,
[223:53] >> yeah,
[223:54] >> they're at the mercy of
[223:55] >> they're at the mercy of software
[223:57] providers like um uh Maxon the same way
[224:01] that we are to provide a usable
[224:03] benchmark. Um yeah, it's an industrywide
[224:07] challenge.
[224:08] >> Yeah, it's interesting.
[224:12] >> Message to Lionus. How happy were you
[224:15] when Apple admitted that iOS 26 was slow
[224:18] and buggy? Uh, proving that it wasn't a
[224:21] skill issue.
[224:21] >> Listen, I knew it wasn't a skill issue
[224:24] already because like I didn't do
[224:26] anything and it would just have all
[224:27] these problems. Um, but I I I don't
[224:32] know. The Apple faithful who just like
[224:35] glaze them endlessly are never going to
[224:37] even when Apple themselves says it,
[224:39] they'll find a way to excuse it. Um, I
[224:43] wasn't even giving Apple a particularly
[224:45] hard time about it. I basically was just
[224:47] like, I expect more from Apple. This is
[224:49] as bad as like a buggy Android release
[224:51] and I got like crucified for it. Uh, so
[224:54] yeah, I know I I knew I was right
[224:56] because I had so many bad experiences
[224:59] with it and Ivonne is like fed up at
[225:01] this point. She asked me to get her an
[225:04] Android. We almost went shopping for it
[225:05] in Taiwan and then the tech mall that we
[225:07] were at didn't have any phone stores.
[225:09] So, we we were going to just shoot an
[225:10] impromptu video of me buying a phone for
[225:12] her, but um there there were no stores.
[225:18] >> Man, she might like the Xperia.
[225:20] >> Dude, I hate buying no Experia for Do
[225:23] you see how much those cost? I could buy
[225:25] her jewelry for that kind of money.
[225:27] >> Oh, yeah. They are crazy expensive,
[225:28] aren't they? What's up with that, man?
[225:30] Damn,
[225:31] >> they're good. Shut. Uh
[225:34] >> so expensive, though. That's why you buy
[225:36] last year's model or get one from a
[225:38] coworker.
[225:40] I still haven't I still haven't wiped
[225:42] it. I got it caught up cuz my Steam
[225:45] guard was still on the old one. And if I
[225:47] hadn't have done that, it would have
[225:48] been absolutely hooked.
[225:49] >> Oh jeez.
[225:50] >> EDM. No, there is no difference between
[225:52] high-end and low-end Apple devices. And
[225:54] I'm not definitely right about the lower
[225:55] end of things. I had a freaking the
[225:57] latest iPhone. What are you talking
[225:58] about?
[225:59] >> This is what I'm talking about.
[226:01] >> Stop. Just stop engaging.
[226:03] >> Yeah. Move on.
[226:04] >> Move on. Next one.
[226:05] >> Hi, Ll and D. The IT department of the
[226:09] school I work at is restricting the use
[226:11] of Muse Score because it's open source.
[226:13] How would you explain or convince
[226:15] someone the safety of a longestablished
[226:18] project?
[226:18] >> Point at their phone. If they run an
[226:20] Android, you say, "Hey, that's based on
[226:22] the AOSP, an open- source project. You
[226:24] need to relax."
[226:26] >> Like, what are they talking about?
[226:29] >> They are in the pocket of Selius.
[226:34] What's Musecore is? I'm assuming this is
[226:36] some music thing.
[226:36] >> Yeah, it's a music notation software.
[226:39] >> Okay,
[226:41] they banded sheet music.
[226:42] >> That is the worst, dude.
[226:45] >> Scores.
[226:45] >> What are we talking about?
[226:46] >> Pretty dang.
[226:47] >> Tell them to ask an AI.
[226:49] >> Wait, this is the IT department. They
[226:51] should know better.
[226:52] >> That's what makes no no bothering me.
[226:55] >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. there's some
[226:57] other reason that is not the real reason
[227:00] and they're just not telling you the
[227:02] real reason. So you may never be able to
[227:05] find out the real reason, but until you
[227:07] know the real reason, you won't be able
[227:09] to make any argument or explain
[227:11] anything. So that's that's that's the
[227:14] situation you're in right now. There's
[227:15] no way that an IT department at a school
[227:19] who knows enough about it to be running
[227:21] the IT department at a school
[227:24] >> does not know about open source. Like
[227:27] there's just no way.
[227:28] >> I was
[227:30] I I not knowing what MuseCore was. I I
[227:33] thought I misinterpreted that for a
[227:34] second and they they banned the use of
[227:36] Musecore because there was some other
[227:37] opensource one that they wanted you to
[227:40] use and that would have made like more
[227:42] sense to me as a educational
[227:45] institution. But
[227:47] my school IT department gave us all
[227:49] local admin.
[227:52] That's fun. Maybe they just wanted you
[227:54] to learn things rapidly.
[227:59] Uh yeah. Okay. Next one. Hello LDL
[228:03] watching today while painting my nursery
[228:05] for my first kid do this month. Any DIY
[228:09] painter tips slash first time dad
[228:11] advice.
[228:12] >> Well, don't mix up the paint with the
[228:14] babies.
[228:16] Babies and paint are not a good
[228:17] combination. So, I think it's great that
[228:20] you're, you know, Oh, due this month.
[228:22] Oh, dude. Uh,
[228:26] you needed to paint this like a month
[228:27] ago. The fumes are not going to be good.
[228:30] You need to get on it, finish it this
[228:32] weekend, and then run a fan in there
[228:35] like continuously. Don't put the baby in
[228:38] there for a little bit. Um, so there
[228:40] there's one. I got one for you. There's
[228:43] a tip. Um,
[228:46] what else we got here?
[228:49] >> Yeah, good enough.
[228:51] >> Yeah. Hello, L D and lowercase L. with
[228:55] how easy AI generation of creators has
[228:58] become, what advice do you have for fem
[229:00] creators to protect themselves?
[229:03] >> Uh,
[229:04] I mean, I wish I could offer some advice
[229:06] on that. I don't know how to protect
[229:08] ourselves. I I think I I think I
[229:11] mentioned this last WAN show, but I was
[229:12] chatting with an automotive creator and
[229:15] uh they were saying like, oh yeah, no,
[229:17] like AI generated slop is like a real
[229:19] challenge for our space. And I was like,
[229:21] sorry, why? Um, and they were basically
[229:24] just like because you can just generate
[229:26] cars doing like crazy stunts and people
[229:30] the same at the end of the day it's zero
[229:32] sum, right? Like people have a finite
[229:34] amount of eyeball time per day and every
[229:39] minute they spend looking at AI slop of,
[229:42] you know,
[229:45] a a goat car, you know, drifting around
[229:48] a supermodel or whatever is time that
[229:50] they're not spending looking at the
[229:52] content that was made by real people
[229:54] with, you know, real cars or whatever.
[229:56] And uh it was something that I hadn't
[229:58] really
[230:01] thought about enough like I yeah like
[230:03] I'm aware of the concept of that like
[230:06] when the Super Bowl is on actually
[230:08] YouTube viewership goes down you know
[230:09] like I know these things but the scale
[230:12] at which this just sort of generated
[230:14] garbage content is being produced now is
[230:18] it's like the Super Bowl running all the
[230:20] time compared to uh and take or sorry
[230:24] something running all the time taking
[230:25] that attention
[230:26] away from um you know real life creators
[230:31] and I don't have um
[230:35] I don't have good advice for how to
[230:38] safeguard ourselves from from AI and
[230:41] from generated content in any form
[230:44] whether it's uh just
[230:48] broad challenges of attention being
[230:51] sucked away or whether it's more
[230:53] specifically you know fem niche or tech
[230:56] niche or car niche or whatever niche it
[230:58] is.
[230:58] >> I think I think being explicit with your
[231:00] audience about what you're okay with and
[231:03] what you're not is genuinely helpful.
[231:05] Like you you've made it clear a number
[231:07] of times that you're actually not cool
[231:09] with your AI likeness being used. Um,
[231:16] your audience can be
[231:19] surprisingly helpful in these situations
[231:21] of just cuz you you can't be everywhere,
[231:24] but people that know what you're okay
[231:25] with
[231:27] can be many places. I don't know, weird
[231:29] sentence, but um, as long as those
[231:32] people can point it out, as long as
[231:33] those people can report it, it it it can
[231:36] be really helpful.
[231:38] I I've I've seen it before. So,
[231:42] yeah.
[231:43] >> Couple more for you. Hey, Lionus, are
[231:45] there ever any hardware I guess hardware
[231:49] stuff that you fear will be taken off
[231:51] the market or scalped because of a shout
[231:55] out you've made?
[231:56] >> Yeah, sure. I I actually checked this
[231:57] one ahead of time and I had a couple
[231:59] ready for you. I'm a big fan of the
[232:01] Rockat SOA lap board. It's, in my
[232:03] opinion, the best lap board.
[232:05] >> Oh, yeah. We have them all over the
[232:06] place here. Well, it's because I bought
[232:08] a couple of them because I knew that
[232:10] Rockat was going away and it was
[232:11] discontinued. Um, and it's These are
[232:15] both parts only for $55 and $85
[232:18] respectively. Uh, okay. I might have
[232:20] already done it then. Um, they used to
[232:22] be a little easier to get your hands on.
[232:23] I have like three of them just in case
[232:25] they die. And then another one is
[232:26] Optane. Dude, Optane is
[232:29] >> Yeah.
[232:30] >> is goated and especially feels
[232:33] especially relevant today. If only Intel
[232:36] and Micron could have held it together
[232:37] long enough to meet the demands of the
[232:39] AI boom, they would they would literally
[232:42] not be able to keep Optane on the shelf
[232:46] right now. the demand would be
[232:48] astronomical and it would also have been
[232:50] such a huge competitive advantage for
[232:52] their server hardware that would be
[232:54] compatible with like Optane DIMs and
[232:56] stuff like oh my god Optane was such a
[232:59] it was like the biggest missed
[233:00] opportunity of the last 10 years in in
[233:03] tech in my opinion. Okay, that's a
[233:06] that's a huge statement but it's it's up
[233:08] there. It's up there from like a
[233:10] financial standpoint. The missed
[233:12] opportunity here is like man, Intel just
[233:16] can't miss an opportunity to miss over
[233:18] the last little bit and Optane was by
[233:20] far the biggest one.
[233:24] And last one I got for you. Hey Lionus,
[233:27] what is your opinion on the new Final
[233:29] Fantasy Resonance that was recently
[233:31] announced?
[233:32] >> Um, my only opinion on it is that it's
[233:35] finally time once it comes out for me to
[233:38] play these damn games. I refuse to play
[233:40] part one of a series before the rest of
[233:43] it. I still have not read Game of
[233:45] Thrones because I am waiting for George
[233:48] RR Martin to finish writing these damn
[233:50] books, which it seems like he will never
[233:53] do. Uh I read the first one and then I
[233:56] was like, "Wait, he's not done writing
[233:58] them? That and I stopped reading them
[234:01] and um
[234:03] >> that's so funny.
[234:05] >> I'll wait. I I bought a box set of them
[234:08] and then realized he wasn't done writing
[234:10] it, so never opened it.
[234:13] >> Why are we so similar?
[234:15] >> I was I was hearing you describe this
[234:18] and then like the same series.
[234:22] Oh, that was pretty good.
[234:27] Oh man.
[234:29] >> For what it's worth, the first book's
[234:30] great.
[234:32] >> Yeah. No, I I'm looking forward to it.
[234:34] >> Yeah. Yeah,
[234:38] >> you guys. Um,
[234:41] that's all I
[234:42] >> I don't like getting into shows that
[234:43] aren't done either.
[234:44] >> I procrastinated through the entire Game
[234:46] of Thrones TV series
[234:48] >> and I felt so good that I was behind the
[234:51] entire curve.
[234:53] >> Yeah.
[234:54] >> Anyway, that's all I got.
[234:56] >> All right, that's all I got then. We
[234:58] will see you guys next week. Same bad
[235:01] time, same bad channel. Are we going to
[235:02] manage to both be here in studio next
[235:04] week? I think it's been almost a month.
[235:06] >> I'm there in studio. Are you there in
[235:08] studio?
[235:09] >> Nice.
[235:10] >> I think we're all here then. All right.
[235:11] Good stuff.
[235:12] >> Nice.
[235:12] >> See you guys there.
[235:13] >> Bye.
[235:30] Heat. Heat.