Usually I like to be like on the top of whatever I do, but here I'm not at all. >> What's it like being around so many athletic and and fast people? >> It's pretty humbling because I think I was like bottom 30% for my time for my age group. So it's crazy seeing how many like super fit, insanely talented people are here. Humbling and it pushes me to work harder. >> Does that motivate you to get a better time on your next Iron Man or what are you kind of shooting for in the next one? >> Yeah, it does motivate me. Hopefully I can get like a 610. What do you think you would have to do differently in your training to be able to achieve that? >> I just train consistently more. But it's kind of like business. All the stuff that I have done well in business has been because of like consistency and just doing something for a long time. I think it's the same for this. The best people in the sport are super consistent. Like I don't know how they have that work ethic to train that much for that long. To learn his spark.