[0:00] I am finally all caught up with the [0:02] latest in the Lego scandal. So, [0:05] naturally want to yap about it. I want [0:08] to bring you aboard the Magic School Bus [0:10] here as we take a tour through the [0:12] newest and the most comprehensive dive [0:15] into this situation, which is found [0:17] through Coffeezilla's video. I highly [0:19] recommend you watch his full video here [0:22] cuz he really gets into the weeds of it [0:24] and shows everything. He bears it all. [0:27] Let's let's the entire Lego scandal [0:30] hanghog in its birthday suit. And I [0:33] think it is an incredible job he's done. [0:35] Per usual, Coffeezilla investigations I [0:38] think are always just so high quality [0:40] and just so well done. I want to be [0:42] covering like a lot of the new [0:43] information as well as also going over [0:46] how we got here in the first place [0:47] because now after so much has happened, [0:50] a lot of people have forgotten what the [0:52] actual facts are. People are, I think, [0:54] getting confused or just really falling [0:58] into the back rooms here when it comes [1:00] to like this whole story. So, they're [1:03] regurgitating phony baloney nonsense or [1:06] even just outright myths, you know, or [1:09] ghost stories. Reckless Ben's not even [1:12] real. He's been dead for 15 years type [1:14] [ __ ] And I think Coffeezilla does a [1:16] good job of keeping everything extremely [1:19] clean and all of it is real information, [1:23] evidence, facts, just the straight up [1:25] pudding of it. [1:26] >> A $200,000 Lego collection went missing, [1:29] causing a lot of you to ask me to find [1:30] it. And after seeing the cops point guns [1:32] at YouTubers, people get arrested and [1:35] sued for 1.3 million, I decided enough [1:37] was enough. Most people said the same [1:39] thing after seeing how everything [1:40] unfolded here with the behavior [1:42] exhibited by the Bricks and Minifig side [1:44] as well as the very shady behavior from [1:47] the American Fork Police Department in [1:48] the handling of this case. So, it's no [1:51] surprise Coffeezilla also said no more [1:53] Mr. Nice Guy and decided to get down and [1:56] dirty and get to the bottom of this. A [1:58] massive Star Wars collection was put on [2:00] consignment at a Lego store called [2:02] Bricks and Miniigs in Salem, Oregon. [2:05] Consignment just means the owner, Brian [2:07] Mancel, gave it to a store to sell and [2:10] he was supposed to get a cut when it [2:12] sold. The entire time he maintained [2:14] ownership of the collection and a social [2:17] media post estimated it to be worth [2:19] about $200,000. But then on November [2:22] 14th, 2024, everything went wrong. This [2:25] was the night that Crystal and Ben [2:27] Gorman, the prior franchise owners of [2:29] the Salem store, got kicked out by this [2:32] guy. That is Brandon Best. He and his [2:35] partner Josh Johnson ran a sister store [2:38] in Eugene, Oregon. And Brandon drove up [2:41] that night to kick the Gormans out. [2:42] Brandon and Josh would be taking over [2:44] the franchise in Salem. And this is the [2:47] exact moment the Legos go missing. As [2:50] that store is getting handed over, the [2:52] question is, is Brian's collection in [2:55] it? [2:55] >> A perfect succinct previously on Dragon [2:58] Ball Z lore dump. That is exactly how [3:02] everything happened and exactly what [3:05] started this story to begin with where [3:09] Brian Manzel had a very valuable [3:11] collection go into this bricks and [3:13] minifigs on consignment. the previous [3:15] franchises get kicked out and there is a [3:19] lot of questions around well where are [3:24] the Legos now because Brian Mancel the [3:26] owner of the Legos has not been [3:28] compensated for all the Legos that he [3:31] had brought there that presumably had [3:33] sold as well and also now Bricks and [3:37] Minigs is being like really combative [3:39] and not super cooperative. So, just a [3:41] lot of like big questions that until [3:44] Coffeezilla's video hadn't really had [3:46] any clear answers with strong supporting [3:49] evidence and proof that really paints [3:51] the entire picture clearly on the [3:53] location of these missing Legos. So, the [3:56] first thing Coffee looks at is the [3:57] Bricks and Minifigs official press [3:59] release where they claim that there is [4:00] only like $2 to $5,000 worth of Legos [4:03] left there, which is a huge discrepancy [4:06] based on all of the reporting on how [4:08] many Legos should have still been there. [4:12] Coffee then looks at all of the suspects [4:14] and even toys around with the [4:15] possibility that this could be someone [4:17] completely unrelated like thieves. Just [4:21] regular old Joe Schmo burglars that came [4:24] in to get their grubby paws on the One [4:26] Piece here. This extremely valuable Star [4:29] Wars collection. However, the previous [4:32] owners, the Gormans, shut that idea [4:34] down. They admit that they did have [4:36] break-ins, but at no point were any of [4:38] the Star Wars, Legos, any of Brian [4:40] Mancel's collection uh subjected to [4:43] that. They they were never taken during [4:46] any of these break-ins. So, it wasn't [4:48] thieves. That is something that gets [4:50] ruled out pretty early on here. So, who [4:52] who has the Legos? Where are they? Is, [4:54] you know, does Smog have it and he's [4:56] just sitting on it like his pile of [4:57] gold? And like it's crazy how this [ __ ] [4:59] can just vanish like that and no one in [5:02] a very small tight group of suspects has [5:06] any knowledge on where it is. [5:07] Coffeezilla even plays around with one [5:09] of the ideas that maybe Reckless Bins [5:11] stole it because as you might recall the [5:14] cops came in guns blazing when they [5:16] arrested them because apparently they [5:19] had got a tip that the YouTubers in this [5:21] Airbnb had a conversation about their [5:24] stolen Legos they have. And also, one of [5:27] the owners even accused Ben of stealing [5:29] the Legos when he was melting down, [5:31] [ __ ] crashing out on a phone call [5:33] saying, "Fuck you. You stole the Legos, [5:35] bitch." So, Coffeezilla explores that [5:38] idea and it obviously reaches a pretty [5:41] comically dumb conclusion that there is [5:44] no world where that happens. That is [5:46] just barnacles. Because Reckless Bin [5:50] literally couldn't steal them. It [5:52] actually would have been impossible. He [5:53] wasn't there that night. He had no [5:54] connection to the uh previous franchise [5:57] owners. Had no interaction with like the [6:00] takeover or anything. He had no chance [6:03] to even steal the Legos if that was part [6:06] of a nefarious dubious plot he was [6:08] cooking up. Genuinely, it is impossible [6:10] for him to have been the one to have [6:12] stolen the Legos. So then he Coffeezilla [6:15] looks at Ammon. [6:17] >> My name is Ammon McNe. I am the CEO of [6:21] the Bricks and Minifigs brand. So, my [6:23] name is Matt McNeff. I'm the COO of [6:25] Bricks Minigs. [6:26] >> The people you just saw are the McN [6:28] brothers. They agreed to speak with me [6:30] to try to clear their name. [6:32] >> Boy howdy. You can probably already [6:34] imagine how well this goes. Their [6:36] defense not watertight. I am always so [6:41] impressed by Coffeezilla's ability to [6:43] get the star clowns of his [6:45] investigations to speak directly to him. [6:48] And every time without fail they make [6:51] fools of themselves. It it it it keeps [6:54] happening and I am thankful that it [6:56] does. I am just always surprised. Now [6:58] that being said, Ammon does make a [7:00] strong point about offsite holding of [7:03] Brian Mansel's collection, which is [7:05] something Brian had reiterated on a [7:07] podcast like a year ago about how his [7:10] collection was being stored outside of [7:13] that bricks and mini figs location, [7:15] outside that facility. It was in, you [7:17] know, [ __ ] secure black site or [7:18] something for security, which I think is [7:21] very odd. That is peculiar. [7:24] Why? You know, they store the Legos in [7:26] [ __ ] Fort Knox or something on [7:28] consignment like it that is very weird [7:31] if you ask me. [7:32] >> Parts of it seem to go missing on [7:34] November 14th. [7:36] >> Well, and and and I guess the No, [7:39] not not at all. I'm I'm gonna say, you [7:41] know, like that that that is not [7:43] accurate at all because [7:45] >> So, you think that the collection was in [7:46] the store at the time or elsewhere? [7:49] >> Elsewhere. When when you look at Manel's [7:51] own words that he reiterated to a [7:54] podcast last year, he explicitly stated [7:57] to another podcaster, "The sets were [8:00] moved off site for security. [8:02] >> The collection will not be stored on [8:04] site after ours for security reasons, [8:05] and after Sunday, the sets will be [8:06] available for purchase, but stored [8:08] elsewhere." Coffeezilla then brings this [8:09] up directly to the previous owners, the [8:12] Gormans, about the off-site storage of [8:14] Brian Mansel's Star Wars Lego [8:16] collection, asking them to pour a bit of [8:18] milk on this cereal. What does this all [8:21] mean? What does it look like? And I [8:23] think the way they explain it does make [8:26] more sense about why it was stored off [8:29] site for a brief period of time. The way [8:34] Ammon describes it makes it sound like [8:35] it was some kind of indefinite thing [8:37] where they had it buried underground, [8:39] you know, in like a fallout shelter or [8:41] something that they were, you know, [8:43] squatting on there and it it seemed very [8:45] underhanded and shady. But the way they [8:48] describe it and like the reason behind [8:50] it, that also makes sense. [8:54] >> Locations, can you address what that is? [8:56] Is that true? So, the off-site location [9:00] and the the letter that they are re that [9:03] corporate is referring to is the [9:05] original press release that we released [9:07] when we were launching the collection. [9:09] In that press release, because we had [9:11] had uh previous break-ins, I [9:13] specifically included the location that [9:16] after this weekend, those Legos would be [9:18] sto [9:20] stored offsite to deter any future [9:22] thefts. They were briefly stored offsite [9:25] after that launch weekend while I bought [9:28] safes for the back room and then they [9:30] were moved back into the store. [9:32] >> Okay. So, for most of the time the the [9:34] the sets were in the store after y'all [9:37] got the safes in. [9:39] >> Yeah, [9:39] >> exactly. [9:40] >> To me, that does pass the smell test. If [9:42] they are having problems with thieves, [9:44] you know, Lego City's under attack from [9:47] Nire Dwells, well, now they have this [9:49] extremely valuable collection that [9:50] belongs to Brian Mancel's father. And in [9:52] order to try and keep it safe and [9:54] secure, they don't have any like safes [9:56] or anything like that. So in the interim [9:59] while they get those safes, they store [10:01] it offsite. [10:03] I get that. Like I I do understand that. [10:07] And according to them, once they did get [10:10] those saves, they did bring it back. So [10:13] it was in the store for the majority of [10:14] the time. It was only offsite for a [10:16] little while. And one group in [10:18] particular is pointing their finger at [10:20] them very hard. It's the McNavs who say [10:22] they were behind on payments. [10:24] >> We started getting uh calls from the [10:26] landlord letting us know that Crystal [10:28] was uh behind on the lease payments at [10:31] the location. We had also gotten a [10:33] couple of uh notices from some of our [10:35] vendor partners that bills had not been [10:38] paid by the store. And so we felt pretty [10:40] strongly that there was going to be a [10:41] risk of her just, you know, like [10:43] attempting to file bankruptcy, doing [10:44] some of these other types of things [10:45] which we've had franchises do in the [10:47] past. And that's problematic. So that's [10:49] why we sent him up there to take some [10:50] video footage. So we need we needed to [10:52] just be prepared if if we needed to do a [10:54] hostile takeover. [10:55] >> This is not new information from the [10:58] bricks and minig side of things about [11:00] pointing the finger at the Gormans. That [11:03] they are responsible for all this [11:05] hoopla. They are the actual bad guys [11:08] here. They may not have the twirled [11:10] mustache, but make no mistake, they're [11:12] the villains. So he they are claiming [11:15] that the Gormans were behind on [11:16] payments. They they weren't doing their [11:19] due diligence. So there was a fear that [11:21] there might be bankruptcy, skipping [11:22] town, this kind of thing. So they [11:24] actually sent Brandon Best undercover [11:27] incognito to shop around and take video [11:31] to send to them. And this was before [11:34] Brandon came in to kick them out. So [11:36] they were already like investigating the [11:39] Gorman's and this shop in particular. [11:42] >> A video of the store condition in [11:44] preparation for this handover. But at [11:46] this point, Brandon does not announce [11:47] himself to Crystal Gorman. Later though, [11:50] on November 14th, once again, the same [11:52] concern about the Gorman stealing or [11:54] theft was expressed by the McNavs. [11:57] Brandon was trying to make sure that [11:58] they weren't taking things from the [12:00] store. And so, he was kind of trying to [12:01] make sure that he wasn't putting things, [12:03] you know, like hiding things in the back [12:04] and that he like, and while he was [12:05] watching that, trying to make sure Ben [12:07] wasn't grabbing stuff from the store and [12:08] moving or doing anything along those [12:09] lines cuz he just got a weird feeling [12:11] about the whole transition. She took at [12:13] least one, if not more than one, cart [12:16] fulls of things out to her car with her [12:18] coat draped over it. [12:20] >> Agent 47 Brandon Best here is undercover [12:23] and according to the McNS filming things [12:25] to make sure everything's above board [12:27] and that the Gormans aren't stealing [12:29] things, trying to prevent theft and make [12:32] sure everything's, you know, above board [12:33] and as smooth a transition as possible [12:35] with all the inventory intact without [12:37] them, you know, making off with it like [12:40] bandits. The other McNF that doesn't [12:43] have a mustache even claims that she was [12:47] taking cart fulls of items to her car [12:50] under her coat. [12:53] How How big is her coat? That'd be a [12:55] [ __ ] massive coat, right? To put an [12:57] entire cart full of items under it to [13:00] try and hide it. What is Is that like a [13:03] XXXL [13:07] raincoat or something? Like what the [13:09] [ __ ] Is it like that old thing of like [13:11] three kids in a trench coat to buy [13:13] tickets to a PG-13 movie or some [ __ ] [13:16] Like, how big of a code are we talking [13:18] here to be able to do that? That's a [13:21] pretty bold claim. And they follow this [13:23] up by saying that she actually has a [13:25] history of retail theft. Like she has a [13:28] record of like stealing. So, she is [13:32] someone that they don't trust and they [13:33] are trying to put doubt into their [13:36] credibility in the first place here. So, [13:38] it's something that Coffeezilla explores [13:39] with the Gormans directly about that. [13:42] And she does confirm, yeah, that [13:43] happened in 1999 [13:46] when she was 19 and pregnant, according [13:49] to her. And the big thing here is that [13:53] she allegedly told them about that, [13:57] which is something McNeff claims they [14:00] had no clue about. [14:02] >> Kind of their side. But at every turn, I [14:04] hope you understand, I'm getting [14:05] contradictory stories down to if the [14:08] McNeffs knew about her history in the [14:09] first place. [14:10] >> Like they're bringing up something that [14:12] I told them about. [14:14] >> Wait, wait, wait. You told them [14:16] >> told them. They asked me. [14:19] >> They said they had no idea. They said if [14:21] if we knew, we would have never hired [14:22] her. [14:23] >> Cuz we would not have hired her had we [14:25] known this. I told them I had a record [14:28] from when I was 18 that was a family [14:30] issue that and didn't go into all of the [14:33] details, but they were like, "That's so [14:36] long ago. We're going to hire you based [14:38] on who you are now." [14:39] >> Now, she says that when she told them [14:41] about it, it was something that happened [14:42] when she was 18, whereas apparently it [14:46] actually happened when she was 19. Not [14:47] that it matters here in the context of [14:49] this, but it illustrates the [14:52] contradictions that are being met at [14:54] every single stage of this investigation [14:57] in this case overall from the very [15:00] beginning. And that's something I've [15:00] said a lot. A lot of what comes out of [15:02] Bricks and Minifigs has so many [15:04] contradictions that are easily [15:07] accessible to just the the naked eye, [15:10] the the peepers here. You can just see [15:13] that a lot of what they have said is [15:16] contradicted by other evidence out [15:18] there. And this is just another one of [15:19] those examples here because according to [15:22] Crystal, she let them know like off rip [15:25] that you know when she was 18 or I guess [15:28] 19, she did have this thing on her [15:32] record here. And after making them [15:35] aware, they said that was so long ago, [15:37] which it was [ __ ] two decades ago, [15:40] that it doesn't bother them and that [15:41] they're, you know, still willing to do [15:43] business with her. But McNeff is now [15:45] turning around and saying they had no [15:46] idea. And if they did know, they would [15:48] have never done business with her. You [15:50] know, this huge blemish on her record. [15:52] She is a scoundrel. Did you know that? [15:54] Did you know that she has a retail theft [15:56] charge? Did you know that? We can't [15:58] trust her. She's a [ __ ] heinous evil [16:00] monster. That kind of thing. when [16:03] apparently from the very beginning [16:05] according to her she let them know about [16:07] that. Also, I would think as a big [16:10] corporation, keep in mind Bricks and [16:12] Minifigs we have to remember is a huge [16:14] corporation. They have a team of [16:16] lawyers. I would imagine they do a [16:18] vetting process for people that they go [16:20] into business with because I imagine [16:22] they would want to know if a new [16:24] franchisee is like a felon who has a [16:27] history of stealing and [ __ ] like that. [16:29] So, there's no doubt in my mind that [16:31] before they even approved her as a [16:34] franchisee, they would have seen this on [16:37] her record, this uh retail theft charge, [16:42] and they still did business with her. [16:43] Like, I just find it hard to believe [16:45] that they wouldn't have known about that [16:47] because I have to imagine there is a [16:48] thorough process that goes into being a [16:51] franchisee owner with Bricks and [16:52] Minifigs. It's a huge corporation. That [16:54] kind of standard procedure like [16:56] background checks that would come up. I [16:58] feel like it's very unlikely that Bricks [17:02] and Minifigs had no idea about that [17:05] before starting to do business with her. [17:07] And if they really had no idea about it, [17:09] that just goes to show you that they're [17:10] not really a very well-managed company [17:13] if they're uh neglecting like one of the [17:16] most standard steps in business, which [17:19] is just doing a background check. [17:21] >> After a lot of convincing, both sides [17:22] agreed to show me the photos, corporate [17:24] and the Gormans. In fact, I scheduled [17:26] the calls to do this an hour apart from [17:28] each other. But let's remember their [17:30] positions for a second. The Gorman say [17:32] whatever was left unsold of Brian's [17:34] collection that was in that store [17:36] spreadsheet was in Salem store the night [17:39] of November 14th. Then you have [17:41] corporate side. They say whatever was [17:43] left that night was maybe $2 to $5,000 [17:45] of Legos. The rest was either stolen by [17:47] thieves, the Gormans, or held off site. [17:49] It was not in that store. And on both [17:51] sides, there's a lot to lose here, [17:53] right? This is where it gets really [17:55] juicy. And now we do get like hard [17:58] picture proof. And Coffeezilla also [18:01] recognizes the effect this has on the [18:04] others here, the new franchises that [18:06] came in. This is the most important [18:08] component so far in the video about the [18:12] location of these sets and also who is [18:17] being truthful. Who is actually [18:19] providing real evidence to confirm their [18:22] account of things and disproving the [18:24] other. That is a very crucial thing to [18:29] finally have definitive light shined on. [18:33] >> You'd agree? [18:33] >> There's there's a good amount of Lego on [18:35] hand. Um, this this isn't what I would [18:38] say is a well stocked bricks and mini [18:40] figs, but it's not um it's not terrible. [18:44] It's it's I would say a little below [18:46] average as far as overall stock. So, now [18:48] let's go to November 14th. Can you still [18:50] see my screen? [18:51] >> Yes, sir. [18:52] >> Okay. So, November 14th, we haven't put [18:56] this is the first time we've shown this [18:58] publicly. We've been waiting for our [19:00] attorneys to give us the approval to [19:01] say, "Hey, this is okay now to share in [19:03] this capacity." So, okay. Uh, this we [19:06] we'll go through these pictures. This is [19:09] what Josh saw when or not Josh, Brandon [19:11] saw. Uh, he took pictures of everything [19:13] in the store. All the inventory in the [19:15] store. This is what the shelves looked [19:17] like [19:18] compared to what you just saw a moment [19:20] ago. [19:23] Okay. So, I'm seeing a lot less. Just to [19:25] state the obvious, go back a little bit. [19:26] >> Yeah. [19:27] >> I'm seeing like way less. So, yeah. the [19:29] pictures I was being shown on November [19:30] 14th, those shelves looked emptier than [19:33] they did on the day of October 24th. But [19:35] to be fair to the Gormans, they [19:37] addressed the empty shelves themselves. [19:39] >> So, starting with the McN side of things [19:41] here, they have these videos from [19:43] Brandon where he was recording the [19:44] inside of that location. And in the [19:46] first video that Coffeezilla is getting [19:48] walked through with the McNS, it does [19:50] seem like the shelves are far more full. [19:53] He does say that it's not like a well [19:55] stocked bricks and mini figs. It's a [19:57] little below average, but it's very [19:58] clearly more full than that video from [20:01] November 14th, which is the big day. The [20:04] shelves are noticeably emptier on that [20:06] day in that video. [20:08] >> As we get to the very end of this video [20:11] in particular right here, you'll see [20:13] that empty space right here. So, this is [20:15] the retired and certified set section [20:19] that we have to keep separate from the [20:22] new and boxed current sets being sold by [20:24] LEGO. All those empty spaces up there [20:27] were the sets that we had on display [20:30] during the day from Brian's collection [20:32] that every night when the store closed, [20:34] we pulled off and put back into the safe [20:36] and then put back out in the morning. [20:38] >> So when they say, "See, there's empty [20:39] space on the shelves." Yeah, cuz we put [20:41] them in safes at night to keep them safe [20:43] >> cuz we have giant windows. [20:44] >> Yeah, it's an explanation that kind of [20:46] makes sense given the history of [20:48] burglary now. [20:49] >> Yeah, that is an explanation that makes [20:51] a lot of sense. Breakins happen all the [20:54] time. Like look at card shops in [20:56] particular. There's a break-in every [20:58] hour at a card shop somewhere. Right now [21:00] there's someone probably getting their [21:02] glass broken in and all their Pokemon [21:04] cards stolen right out of [ __ ] [21:05] display. So they have had a problem with [21:08] breakins in the past. So it makes sense [21:10] that they have it on display during the [21:11] day when there's people there and then [21:14] they take it down at night to put in the [21:16] safes. So that way thieves can't just [21:18] see these valuable Legos sitting out [21:20] there and decide to just throw a brick [21:22] through the through the window. But when [21:24] you have these two videos, it's very [21:26] easy to spin a narrative that also makes [21:29] sense. Look, these shelves were full on [21:32] this day, but on the most important day, [21:35] the November 14th date, they are [21:37] noticeably emptier. That must mean foul [21:40] play. That must indicate that they are [21:42] stealing these sets. That's the [21:44] insinuation they're making with those [21:46] videos. And yeah, you could make that [21:49] argument, but when you actually hear [21:51] from the franchisee owners here, the [21:54] Gormans, their explanation [21:56] make sense on why those shelves would be [21:58] emptier. [21:59] >> My understanding is that he took [22:00] pictures of everything and all those [22:03] photos I showed you of the Star Wars [22:05] were all the photos were all was [22:07] literally all the Star Wars inventory in [22:09] the store. [22:09] >> Yeah, the McNe say all of the photos [22:12] should be with Brandon of all the Star [22:14] Wars items. And to be fair to them, they [22:16] showed me a lot more pictures and even [22:18] showed me a spreadsheet of all the Star [22:19] Wars sets in the store the night Brandon [22:21] took it over. And it valued to about [22:24] like5 to$10,000 or so. But then I had to [22:27] ask, sorry, here's another kind of set. [22:30] >> Okay. [22:32] >> Do you think y'all have all of these? [22:36] >> Very likely. [22:37] >> Okay. [22:40] Again, I'd be surprised if we didn't. [22:42] >> But then I couldn't help myself. I [22:44] started to bring up some of Crystal's [22:45] photos to see if they matched up. Have [22:48] you seen this before? [22:52] >> Uh, not that I recall. [22:54] >> So, do you see that? [22:55] >> Yep. [22:56] >> So, do you see it's in like some kind of [22:58] like a safe thing? I don't know if you [23:00] can see the sides there. Looks like a [23:02] bookshelf to me, but sure. [23:04] >> A bookshelf. Bro, be real. We're looking [23:07] at it. What bookshelf has hinges on the [23:10] left side of it? presumably to close. I [23:14] the not any bookshelves I'm aware of. [23:16] Maybe it's not, you know, the craziest [23:19] high most highquality safe, you know, [23:21] with the giant [ __ ] wheel on it like [23:23] the vault door you'd find at a bank, but [23:25] that does definitely appear to be a safe [23:28] that those Legos are in there in [23:30] Crystal's pictures. So anyway, uh McNeff [23:34] is now saying and even sent a sheet to [23:38] Coffeezilla about what was left in the [23:40] store from the collection valued at [23:42] around like5 to $10,000. And while going [23:45] through pictures, Coffeezilla starts [23:48] showing some of Crystal's pictures as [23:50] well. [23:50] >> Okay. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the [23:52] important thing is making sure that all [23:54] of these are in the inventory for Manel. [23:57] >> Sure. [23:59] Sure. That's home. [24:02] >> 75041. [24:07] >> Yep. The vulture droid. [24:11] >> 75169. [24:16] >> 169. I'm not seeing. So, there may be. [24:18] Okay. So, there's one that is not on our [24:20] list. [24:21] >> Let's try this [24:24] 10240. [24:25] >> Okay. Nope. Not seeing that one either. [24:27] What about 9493? [24:32] I don't see that one either. So maybe [24:34] those were locked at the time and [24:35] Brandon did not get those pictures. [24:37] >> You already tried pissing on my head and [24:39] calling it rain when you looked at a [24:41] safe and said it looked like a [24:42] bookshelf. So, it's hard to extend the [24:45] courtesy that this is like an honest [24:47] mistake about these sets that are in [24:51] Crystal's photographs not appearing in [24:54] their records of the inventory there. [24:58] Like, I can't say for sure if it's by [25:01] design, like they're omitted uh on [25:04] purpose, maliciously or not, but it is [25:07] hard to extend any level of benefit of [25:09] the doubt here. They should be there. [25:12] And the fact they're not is alarming and [25:14] it's something Bricks and Minigs should [25:16] take seriously. He kind of like brushes [25:18] past it a little bit, glosses over it [25:20] and like, okay, well maybe this, but [25:22] like that shouldn't be the response. [25:24] Like it should be something that you [25:25] want to immediately look into a bit more [25:27] on how this could even happen, this [25:29] mistake, if it is a mistake. All right, [25:32] that's kind of a problem because the [25:34] Gorman's had over 200 photos of this [25:36] store. I definitely knew looking at [25:38] these photos, there's a lot more Legos [25:41] in the Gorman's photos by quite a lot [25:44] that Brandon's photos just didn't show. [25:46] But corporate didn't really see it that [25:47] way. [25:48] >> But still, in in the grand scheme of [25:52] things, we're not talking again 10 times [25:54] the amount of of sets here. [25:56] >> I don't know. I I haven't shown all the [25:59] the photos yet. I don't know exactly how [26:00] much. [26:01] >> If there's a calculable figure that we [26:03] can look at and say, "Great, this is [26:05] what was there." I promise you it's not [26:08] $100,000 worth of of Lego. And so [26:11] where's the rest of it? He got me. I [26:14] don't know. [26:14] >> Maybe I'm a little too in my head about [26:16] this this U-Haul story. You don't think [26:18] it could have been some U-Haul thing? [26:21] There's no way. So to me, I believe the [26:24] Gormans provided significantly more hard [26:27] evidence with apparently a couple [26:30] hundred photos showing significantly [26:32] more Lego sets in the store than [26:36] Brandon's documentation had and what [26:39] Bricks and Minigs is touting. I I don't [26:43] think that's something to just gloss [26:45] over here. I I don't know if Mc Maf [26:47] realizes how bad that looks for them. [26:50] It's hard to chalk that up as some [26:53] honest to god mistake or or something [26:56] like that. Especially when at every turn [26:59] McNeff is trying to like minimize the [27:03] amount of Legos with this discrepancy. [27:05] Like okay, even if there was some [27:07] unaccounted for and some uh wackiness [27:12] documentation got cattywampus, it's not [27:14] a hundred thousand. It's not 10 times. [27:17] Yeah, you might have a couple hundred [27:18] photos, but it's not like that much. [27:21] It's just it's very uh fishy behavior. [27:25] And speaking of fishy, it's about to get [27:28] real weird with the U-Haul story. [27:30] >> So, when Brandon came to the store that [27:33] night, uh he was driving a U-Haul truck. [27:35] >> Now, in typical fashion, this was [27:37] immediately disputed. [27:39] >> Brandon showed up to to the Salem store [27:42] in a rental car. uh when when he came to [27:44] to get the keys from Crystal, he was [27:46] there in a rental car, not in a U-Haul. [27:47] >> But the big reason it mattered to me was [27:49] because I was actually called by an ex [27:52] employee of the Bricks and Miniix store [27:55] in Eugene, Oregon. Remember, that's the [27:57] one that Brandon and Josh owned. And he [28:00] told me something very interesting. [28:02] >> I'm a former employee started in 2024, [28:06] and I was working under the old um [28:08] manager Brian. He sold the store to a [28:11] random best Josh. Josh like, "Oh, [28:15] Crystal um stole Lego sets and bolted [28:19] out of the country." [28:20] >> Who says that? [28:22] >> Brandon. Brandon Best told us [28:26] when he was um dropping off all the Lego [28:28] sets to us that night. They used like it [28:31] was a bunch of used Lego sets that were [28:34] like Saran Graph. They had Star Wars [28:36] City. I used just a lot of stuff. It was [28:39] like a mediumsiz U-Haul truck. [28:41] >> Wait, wait. They brought a U-Haul truck. [28:45] >> Yeah, from Salem. To Eugene [28:47] >> and to Eugene and it had a bunch of Star [28:49] Wars sets on it. [28:51] >> Yes, Star Wars sets and everything. A [28:53] bunch of new stuff, too. So, Coffeezilla [28:56] was contacted by a former employee at [28:58] the Eugene location, which was owned by [28:59] Brandon and Josh, and he talks about how [29:02] he watched the Reckless Bin YouTube [29:04] video, and a lot of like what they were [29:06] experiencing with on their own started [29:08] to make sense. And then even talks about [29:11] how that U-Haul has been brought up by [29:15] the Gormans actually arrived at the [29:17] Eugene store full of Lego sets, Saran [29:20] Wrap Lego sets, Star Wars Lego sets. [29:24] This is a huge big claim here and this [29:28] is a real former employee. Coffeezilla [29:30] did his due diligence from everything I [29:32] can tell to confirm this really is an [29:34] employee who worked where he said he [29:36] worked which was at that Eugene location [29:38] with Brandon and Josh as the owners. And [29:41] he is talking about how they had a [29:43] U-Haul that brought these Lego sets. And [29:46] uh they were saying like that facility [29:47] was closed down, you know, [ __ ] was like [29:49] haunted. Crystal big thumbs down. Boo. [29:53] Crystal. We don't like Crystal. Boo. She [29:54] was like stealing Legos and stuff. And [29:56] then he arrives on his chariot here, his [29:58] U-Haul with these [ __ ] Star Wars [30:00] sets. [30:02] That's That's big. That is colossal. And [30:04] Bricks and Minifigs McN there. You can [30:06] hear him still denying the existence of [30:08] that U-Haul in the first place. It is [30:11] heavily disputed, saying he showed up in [30:13] a rental vehicle, not a U-Haul. [30:16] Explicitly saying not a U-Haul. But the [30:17] Gormans are saying it's a U-Haul. A [30:20] former employee at the Eugene location [30:22] is saying it was a U-Haul. [30:25] I mean, it sounded like it was a [ __ ] [30:27] U-Haul to me. If it walks like a duck, [30:29] talks like a duck, probably a [ __ ] [30:31] U-Haul. Like, if you were to look at the [30:33] the footage, uh the ring cameras, all [30:36] that stuff, you you won't see a U-Haul [30:38] sitting anywhere in the the parking lot. [30:40] >> So, after in hearing all of this, I [30:41] realize, look, I just got to find the [30:43] evidence. So, I start sifting through [30:44] these photos I have, right? I realize I [30:45] have a parking lot photo. I check it. No [30:48] U-Haul, just a red truck out there. I [30:50] check another photo where you could see [30:51] the window, but the problem is it's [30:53] night outside, so you can't see. And so [30:55] I'm looking at everything I can and [30:57] there's just nothing, you know? And I [30:59] have this alternate angle. I'm looking [31:01] at that and then wait a minute. Zoom in [31:05] on that photo. Bring up the brightness [31:07] of this photo a little bit. And [31:10] my gosh, there's a U-Haul in the parking [31:14] lot right outside of the store the night [31:17] of November 14th, 2024. I mean, is this [31:20] not Coffeezilla just reaching over to [31:22] deliver the scholars mate here on that [31:24] claim of no U-Haul? They now have [31:26] irrefutable evidence of that U-Haul's [31:29] presence there on that night, which [31:32] confirms the Gorman's account of things [31:34] and disproves the bricks and minifig [31:36] side of things. Now, there was that [31:38] truck that was there in like the the [31:40] footage that Coffeezilla had access to, [31:43] but there is also a U-Haul there. So, [31:46] does Bricks and Minigs just deny the [31:49] U-Haul in light of irrefutable proof and [31:52] try and stick to the story that we now [31:54] know is inaccurate about no U-Hauls [31:57] being there, only a truck? Or do they [31:59] try and feain ignorance like, "Oh, we [32:01] were only made aware of that like rental [32:03] truck. We had no clue about this U-Haul [32:06] scheme here. [32:08] >> This is something that Matt said he had [32:10] seen footage of and it couldn't be true. [32:13] >> And again, I I believe I have seen [32:14] footage from that night that shows [32:16] clearly out into the parking lot and [32:18] there's no U-Haul. After seeing this, I [32:20] said, I really have to make a call. And [32:22] that's when the story changed. So, last [32:24] night I talked with Matt McN. I brought [32:27] up this question of the U-Haul. He told [32:30] me emphatically there was no U-Haul. [32:32] Y'all came to me this morning. You said, [32:33] "Hey, we looked into it. There actually [32:35] was a U-Haul there that night. Can you [32:36] clear up what that's about?" [32:38] >> So, so, so there's there's actually two [32:40] different things that are going on here [32:41] just to help you understand. [32:42] >> Bro, I hate the way Ammon talks. I hate [32:44] the way he conducts himself. His clothes [32:46] whack. His mustache whack. This guy [32:48] sucks, man. Like, let me just help you [32:50] understand, actually. So, yeah, there's [32:53] a U-Haul there. We know you we know you [32:55] found it. We We know you found the the [32:57] evidence of the U-Haul. We're going to [32:58] have to change our story a little bit. [33:00] We're going to have to tighten the [33:01] screws a little bit here and try and get [33:03] something cohesive here cuz yeah, that [33:06] doesn't look good cuz we really were [33:08] strongly saying that there's no U-Haul. [33:11] So, here's the spin. Here's the scoop. [33:14] And I don't want to torture you with [33:16] more than necessary Ammon words that he [33:19] drils out. He's basically now spinning [33:22] this this web here that actually this is [33:26] a big misunderstanding. Uh there's [33:28] there's a odd conflation that's going on [33:31] here about like the U-Haul. Like it's [33:33] not actually there for like this store's [33:36] inventory. There was a disgruntled [33:37] former employee. Uh and there was a a [33:40] bit of uh mishandling of inventory. So [33:43] now the U-Haul is there for that [33:45] something totally separate and and you [33:47] know now things are wires getting [33:49] crossed. Everyone's all over the place. [33:50] But yeah, does that clear it up? Does [33:52] that make sense? It really just doesn't [33:54] make any sense. He's saying that that [33:57] collection that he had brought to the [33:59] Eugene store was from that other problem [34:02] that they had and the employees just [34:06] misremembering the timeline. Like those [34:08] Star Wars sets that he had in Matt [34:10] U-Haul didn't come from, you know, this [34:12] one. It was from something totally [34:14] separate that he was also just doing it [34:15] like the same time as him investigating [34:18] the Salem store. He was doing them both. [34:21] He wears many hats. Jack of all trades. [34:23] He's very talented. So yeah, he was [34:25] doing that and then when he came back on [34:29] the 14th, uh he then starts talking [34:32] about like oh he had like a rental truck [34:34] and he tried to attach a camper to it [34:36] but it just wasn't rated for that. So he [34:38] thought a crap like this is this is the [34:41] story that McNe is telling. Like it is [34:44] it is quite a tale. It is it is like a [34:47] you know an epic up there with the Iliad [34:49] I'd say but like it's not really making [34:51] a ton of sense to me [34:53] >> in anticipation like meaning like a [34:55] camper trailer in anticipation of the [34:57] the potential hostile takeover [34:58] previously. [34:59] >> Is that why he had a U-Haul? Is that the [35:01] reason he had a U-Haul was for this [35:03] camper or what's going on with the [35:05] >> So, so, so then what happens is he takes [35:07] his his uh rental vehicle truck and he [35:10] tries to connect the the trailer uh the [35:13] camping trailer to that truck and and [35:15] it's not rated for that particular [35:17] weight and he realized, a crap. He [35:20] called around and found that that U-Haul [35:22] uh had a rating for, you know, like one [35:25] of their box trucks. And so he grabbed [35:26] that, went and got it at 10:00 a.m. on [35:29] the 14th. And at uh and so he then went [35:32] and hooked that trailer up um to the [35:36] camping trailer to a U-Haul, drove that [35:39] trailer down to another location where [35:42] he could set up the camping trailer in [35:43] Salem. Uh dropped off the camper [35:45] trailer, and then he arrived in a U-Haul [35:48] to the Salem store. And then um [35:51] >> what a story, Mark. [ __ ] me, bro. the [35:54] amount of and then it's like he's [35:56] writing fanfiction live. I'm taking a [35:59] peek inside the writer room here. Like [36:02] he's talking about all of this as if he [36:04] was like a force ghost on this guy's [36:06] shoulders like watching him do all of [36:08] it. Where is this even coming from? Like [36:10] this who who would ever do this? By the [36:14] way, the story he is telling, I can't [36:16] fathom a human being doing. Like, it's [36:20] just so messy and sloppy and convoluted. [36:24] Like, I don't I just don't see a world [36:27] where this would be a path that someone [36:29] actually takes. Now, I'll go ahead and [36:32] spoil that the U-Haul plotline doesn't [36:35] get us anywhere closer to finding the [36:37] Legos, but I do think it is important [36:39] because it illustrates their willingness [36:41] to change their story or just outright [36:44] tell a fib. So, Coffeezilla got [36:47] documentation of that U-Haul. He got [36:50] photos from Brandon of that night and [36:52] there's so much discrepancy there that [36:54] it literally would be impossible for the [36:57] story to have gone the way that Ammon is [37:00] claiming it did. The timing is just not [37:02] feasible. It literally cannot happen the [37:04] way in which it's described. So, even [37:06] though the U-Haul doesn't help us solve [37:08] the mystery Lego here, like Coffeezilla [37:10] get to the bottom of it, it just shows [37:12] to me the willingness for Bricks and [37:14] Minigs to just start spinning their [37:16] [ __ ] wheels about basically anything. [37:19] and just a complete refusal to like even [37:22] stick to their own story and their own [37:25] facts. Like it's constantly changing [37:27] with them and there's always like [37:28] contradictions that seem to pop up. It [37:31] is just very uh shady I would say. In [37:35] particular with Ammon's behavior, this [37:38] guy has a humiliation fetish [37:40] potentially. He loves to put his face on [37:43] claims that have contradictory evidence [37:46] publicly available. So like in this one [37:48] he tells this whole story this this [37:51] novel that he writes here about like the [37:54] U-Haul to explain it even after the [37:56] other McNF firmly sternly with no [37:59] riddles no guesswork no wiggle room [38:02] saying there is no U-Haul that's wrong [38:05] now proven that that wasn't true there [38:07] is a U-Haul there and now Ammon's got [38:09] this massive story cooked up about it [38:12] and the story just like there's no way [38:14] it can be true based on everything [38:16] Coffeezilla was able to together from [38:18] Brandon like the actual documentation. [38:20] So like I don't think there's any world [38:22] where that's true or reality yet he's [38:26] proudly making that claim even when it's [38:29] like evidence contradicts it like [38:32] provably contradicts it. I that's why [38:35] it's just so peculiar to me. Like they [38:37] keep saying these things and can't even [38:38] stick to their own story. [38:40] >> First from corporate I got the point of [38:42] sale records from the Salem store from [38:44] 2023 to 2024. And secondly, from Crystal [38:47] Gorman, I got her internal records of [38:49] Brian's inventory of what was sold or [38:52] not in order to pay him and keep track [38:54] of prices. Now, Coffeezilla gets access [38:57] to some of the bookkeeping here, and he [38:59] talks about how the original claim of [39:01] this being a $200,000 LEGO collection is [39:04] just not true. It's highly inaccurate. [39:07] It was used as marketing buzz online. [39:10] Yes. like from Bricks and Minifigs [39:12] themselves as their marketing material, [39:14] like the $200,000 collection, that kind [39:15] of thing. And that became, you know, the [39:18] most eye-catching part of this whole [39:20] story is how much the Legos are worth. [39:23] But according to all of what is [39:26] available here, the actual estimated [39:28] value is calculated to be around [39:30] $107,000 according to what Coffeezilla [39:33] has access to. still an extremely [39:35] valuable Lego collection, but that claim [39:37] is just not accurate about it being [39:40] 200K. It is still extremely valuable and [39:43] that is still an extreme amount of [39:44] money, but it is important to get things [39:47] correct and the correct amount is around [39:50] $100,000 $107,000, [39:52] which as Coffeezilla mentions is [39:54] somewhat nebulous because they're not [39:56] all sold. So, you can't really say [39:58] exactly what the value is cuz they [40:00] haven't been paid for. So maybe it could [40:02] be a little more, maybe a little less, [40:03] but it is not fair to say it's $200,000. [40:06] He then talks to Ben about it, about how [40:08] surprised Ben is, cuz he'd been led to [40:10] believe it's 200K this whole time. He [40:12] then talks to the Gormans about it and [40:14] Crystal talks about how she initially [40:16] arrived at that number for the sake of [40:18] like the press release to be eye [40:20] grabbing. But in her spreadsheet she [40:23] mention or she calculates it around like [40:26] the 85 to 120k ballpark range not 200. [40:32] That was her arriving there off [40:34] basically like eyeballing it and then [40:36] putting out the press release about this [40:37] huge collection that is very valuable [40:39] that they got their hands on. But as she [40:41] actually went through the inventory in [40:42] the spreadsheet, it was closer to that [40:44] like 100k mark. [40:46] >> It's about $107,000. Now, between 2023 [40:49] and 2024, the Gorman's record sales of [40:52] about $24,000 of Brian's collection in [40:55] their inventory tracking list. And of [40:57] those sales, Brian was entitled to about [40:59] 65 to 70% of it. He was paid $17,000, [41:03] which roughly tracks with that. Which [41:06] means on November 14th, the big night, [41:08] the remaining amount of Brian's [41:10] collection that should have been in [41:12] there is about $82,000. [41:14] >> And this is why having the correct [41:16] number is important. And it's something [41:17] Coffeezilla mentions. If you're going to [41:19] be trying to locate the missing Legos, [41:21] you have to know what you're even [41:23] looking for and how much you're looking [41:25] for here. cuz if it's a $200,000 [41:28] collection, there is a lot more out [41:31] there in the [ __ ] wild out there in [41:33] the rain and cold, you know, needing to [41:35] be found. But now that we have the [41:37] accurate numbers, you can start to more [41:39] fine-tune the investigation to locate [41:41] them. So, on the the big night here, uh, [41:45] you know, on on judgment day, $82,000 [41:49] worth of Legos should have been in that [41:52] store, which is a really big deal [41:54] because Bricks and Minifigs officially [41:56] stated that there is only like 2 to [41:57] 5,000 that they located there. And [42:00] McNeff even said that there's only like [42:03] 11 to 15k total Star Wars in that [42:07] location. [42:08] How is that possible? We have the [42:10] bookkeeping. There should have been [42:12] $82,000 worth of Star Wars Lego sets [42:15] from Brian Mansel's collection there. [42:17] But according to Bricks and Minifigs and [42:19] according to uh uh MC Mcnasty McNeff, I [42:24] don't know why I blanked on his name so [42:26] hard. Uh [ __ ] Mc Cheeseburger here. [42:29] According to him, there was only 11 to [42:32] 15K in total Star Wars there. So that's [42:35] just that's not adding up. Where is it? [42:37] So, I went through Crystal's photos [42:39] myself, which she shared with me, and [42:41] hired people to go through and hand tag [42:44] the Star Wars Legos that were in these [42:46] photos. We looked through over 200 plus [42:50] photos, multiple videos, and matched [42:52] what we saw with Brian's collection. In [42:55] the end, I ended up with about $21,000 [42:59] of Legos matching Brian's collection [43:01] that can be proven to be in the store on [43:04] the night of November 14th. Now, to [43:07] state the obvious, that's about three to [43:09] five times what corporate estimated, at [43:11] least on their press release. Now, yes, [43:14] there are inherent errors in these [43:16] estimates. Maybe we picked up some Lego [43:18] that matched Brian's collection, but [43:20] wasn't Brian's. But even though this is [43:23] a bigger number than corporate said, I [43:25] have to admit, even with pretty generous [43:28] assumptions being made, there's still a [43:30] huge gap of about $61,000 here that I [43:33] just couldn't find. I think that was a [43:35] really clever way of doing things here. [43:37] He has so many photos from the Gormans [43:39] here and he hired a team to go through [43:43] manually old natural and tag them and so [43:47] that way they could find the valuation [43:50] of what is provably in the store on that [43:53] night and there is still a large amount [43:56] unaccounted for. Like yes, of course, [43:58] give or take, there's some error there [43:59] and how it was gathered and like what [44:00] the actual value might be, which he [44:02] points out. But even still, that is such [44:04] a good thing to work off of there [44:06] because now you have provable amount of [44:09] what's in the store and what is still [44:10] just completely lost in the ether, you [44:12] know, [ __ ] ghosts out there. But then [44:15] I learned Brian had made a special side [44:17] deal with M&R Productions, who had [44:20] recently purchased some Legos from him. [44:23] And this is where it starts to get [44:24] messy. So, these are the pictures that [44:26] M&R Productions sent me looking at the [44:29] Lego that Brian sold him. This was stuff [44:32] reportedly in storage. And it's [44:33] interesting because of an early [44:35] inventory list which had a column called [44:38] location that Crystal used. And it [44:41] listed a lot of the Star Wars items as [44:43] being located in what they called [44:45] storage. Now, previously I was told that [44:47] all of the stuff in storage was put back [44:49] in the store, but there's a bunch that's [44:52] on this list that I can't find in the [44:54] store that seem to appear in these [44:56] pictures. Now, I've been assured, by the [44:58] way, that most of these Legos were not [45:01] part of the inventory spreadsheet. They [45:03] were never given to Bricks and Miniigs. [45:04] This is a separate part of the [45:06] collection. But I did a check and 100% [45:10] of the items that match the Brian [45:13] collection inventory just so happen to [45:15] be listed with a location of storage. So [45:19] this starts to make things incredibly [45:21] fuzzy and I'm inclined to believe that a [45:23] lot of these are part of that same [45:25] inventory list. [45:26] >> Yeah, but I think that's a very natural [45:27] conclusion to draw from that. And this [45:29] is a really big thing that I had never [45:32] heard anything about. This uh side deal [45:35] on the Star Wars Legos that were sold to [45:40] someone else totally outside of all of [45:42] this commotion, but those sets still [45:45] appear in that spreadsheet, but they're [45:48] marked as located in storage, which as [45:50] Coffee points out, storage is something [45:53] according to the Gormans that they had [45:55] offsite, but would bring back to the [45:57] store and put in the safes. So like it [45:59] was in their possession still like [46:03] securely locked down. But how could that [46:05] possibly be true if they have been sold [46:07] to somebody else and there are now [46:10] pictures to confirm it and it seems like [46:13] it is all part of that collection. It [46:16] shouldn't be appearing in the [46:17] bookkeeping at all in that case. That is [46:20] super messy. And according to [46:21] Coffeezilla's estimates, it comes out to [46:23] about $15,000 in Lego that isn't [46:27] missing. We can see where it went. It [46:30] was sold to somebody else, but in the [46:33] inventory sheet is still marked in [46:36] storage, which I believe is very [46:38] inaccurate to say, and that is quite [46:41] shady. [46:42] >> Anything. And by the way, before we [46:43] continue, yes, this was all a lot of [46:46] work. If you want to, please support us [46:47] on Patreon. That's how this show gets [46:49] made. [46:50] >> I wanted to leave that plug in here [46:51] because Coffeezilla's work truly is [46:53] incredible, and I highly recommend [46:55] everyone go support him in any way you [46:57] can. his his investigations, I think, [46:59] are among the best, not only on YouTube, [47:02] but just in general. He really does get [47:05] to the bottom of his [ __ ] stories in [47:07] a way that is very rare these days. And [47:09] I'm always appreciative of his work. [47:11] Now, the next thing he's looking at is [47:13] the point of sales records. And in [47:15] there, he notices that according to [47:17] this $51,000 [47:20] worth of Brian Mansel's collection was [47:22] sold. And according to Crystal herself [47:26] back in like an earlier talk with [47:28] Coffee, she even says like $50,000 of [47:30] the collection was sold. But Brian's [47:34] only been paid $17,000. What sense does [47:36] that make? He should be paid more. He is [47:40] owed more. So where is that? Where has [47:44] that gone? Who came in and shook that [47:47] lunch money out of him? [47:48] >> Hey, it was about 50 something,000. [47:50] Yeah, [47:51] >> but Brian was only paid 17,000. [47:53] >> Okay. [47:54] >> And it should have been about double [47:56] that [47:57] >> without again without seeing any of [48:00] those any of those records, without [48:01] seeing those individual tickets. I can't [48:04] answer that any better. [48:06] >> This is kind of a problem. The math [48:07] ain't math in here. 65 to 70% of 50,000 [48:10] is almost double what we believe Brian [48:13] was paid. And digging into the details, [48:15] it turns out a lot of these sales come [48:17] from what Crystal's spreadsheet actually [48:19] categorizes as layaways, meaning they [48:23] were marked as having been sold. But [48:25] layaways are when someone puts a down [48:27] payment on an item and later pays it [48:29] off. I imagine if any of you are [48:31] familiar with layaways, you just rolled [48:32] your eyes in a big way that always ends [48:38] in a lot of fuzziness, a a lot of [48:42] friction. So now we're starting to we're [48:46] starting to see [48:49] something very new in this story here. [48:51] So, Coffeezilla has learned that a lot [48:54] of this comes from layaways [48:56] >> worth about $20,000 [48:58] in layaway. And that felt a little [49:01] strange to me. And because of that, I [49:03] asked Josh Johnson, the incoming owner, [49:05] and he responded, quote, "There were two [49:08] to three items on layaway when they took [49:10] over." [49:11] >> I haven't gone through and done a count, [49:13] but I know it was [49:15] vastly more than 2 to three. [49:18] >> It was about 98. that that makes sense. [49:22] >> Coffee then tries to wrap his head [49:23] around this whole huge amount of [49:26] layaway. And Crystal then explains like, [49:29] "Yeah, it is extremely rare." And she [49:31] says that she's not even sure they've [49:33] ever done layaway until this set came [49:35] in. But then goes on to explain like how [49:37] their layaway worked where they'd, you [49:39] know, put the down payment then make [49:41] payments over like 30 days and that kind [49:43] of thing. and that it was just a a big [49:47] there was the way she dove into it was [49:49] already very much a lot of moving [49:53] pieces. She even mentions like one set [49:56] in particular went on layaway four times [49:58] and then eventually got sold. So like [50:01] this amount of layaway and like the [50:03] discrepancy between how much layaway [50:06] like what what Josh is reporting and [50:08] what is reported on the sheet like the [50:11] whole thing with this layaway here is [50:13] already getting into some really spotty [50:15] ground that makes it hard to like really [50:19] nail down what's going on and why [50:22] because it feels like a crazy amount to [50:25] be doing on layaway which is something [50:28] Coffeezilla mentions as So, a lot of [50:30] these are see like look at this like so [50:33] like it says POSOS final sale price but [50:36] it's listed as a layaway but it's but [50:37] it's sold for $5.99 because it matches [50:41] it matches with the store sale price. [50:43] >> Okay. [50:44] >> So, were they on layaway? Were they [50:46] accidentally marked layaway on the [50:47] spreadsheet? What's going on there? [50:49] >> Um our Ewok Village was one of those [50:51] cases. Uh at some point he had I think [50:53] like eight or nine different items on [50:55] layaway. Um, so they'd come in and make [50:58] a payment for a a a bulk payment. You [51:02] know, I've got 800 things on layaway. [51:06] I'm going to make $100 on my payment. [51:08] Um, one customer in particular would do [51:11] that and then when he'd gotten up high [51:12] enough to pay for one set, we'd pull [51:15] that set out, mark it as sold. She [51:17] states numerous times that without being [51:18] able to see like the actual sales [51:20] ticket, she can't really give a great [51:22] explanation, but she talks about like [51:25] one of the more complicated layaway [51:27] experiences they had like with the Ewok [51:30] village. And like you can see [51:34] where things are getting really muddy [51:36] through this layaway um protocol that [51:40] they had there. and it's leading to a [51:42] lot of funky bookkeeping that is making [51:45] some really odd stuff come to light. And [51:49] another thing that Coffeezilla gets into [51:51] I think is a very big one. But I even [51:53] found more than that in this POS data. I [51:55] also found about $10,000 in sales that [51:59] match Brian's collection that were not [52:01] marked as sold under this inventory [52:04] spreadsheet. Some of our things that [52:06] were not found, [52:08] >> okay, [52:08] >> were explained by the POSOS system [52:11] because they were found in the POS [52:13] system as being sold. So, like they [52:16] weren't marked on the spreadsheet, but [52:17] they were marked as sold via the POS [52:20] system. And this is about $10,000 worth [52:24] of Lego that basically were matched. [52:27] >> Huh. Uh there is a possibility that the [52:30] the consignments were ended when I [52:33] wasn't at work and I just didn't go [52:35] through and pull them up. They didn't [52:37] get put in the consignment ticket. I [52:39] hadn't gone through that those those [52:41] consignments in a couple of months. I [52:43] hadn't gone through the inventory in the [52:45] back room in a couple of months. So [52:46] there it is entirely possible there were [52:48] things there were sales that were [52:50] finished that I never clocked as being [52:53] finished. I don't know that without [52:56] going through and actually seeing it. [52:58] >> But you're saying it's possible stuff [53:00] was sold, not updated on this inventory [53:03] list. [53:04] >> It's entirely possible. [53:05] >> Now, that is a big stinky whoopsie if [53:10] things from this collection are being [53:12] sold and they're not being updated and [53:16] Brian is not getting paid because it's [53:18] not getting updated. So, they don't know [53:20] that it's getting sold in the first [53:21] place. You can see where we're having a [53:23] big problem now. This bookkeeping is now [53:26] seeming to be the most egregious [53:30] catalyst to where this whole thing [53:32] started with this missing Lego [53:34] collection and him not being properly [53:37] paid for Legos that may have actually [53:40] already been sold and aren't even [53:42] missing. Now, in that audio recording [53:45] when Brandon Best came in and kicked [53:46] them out, she does make a mention that [53:48] Brandon may not have been paid yet. [53:51] everything that he's owed. That is [53:53] something that is explicitly mentioned [53:54] by her. Coffeezilla also plays the [53:56] recording where you can hear all of [53:57] that. I've played it for you a couple [53:59] times. I'm sure you know what I'm [54:00] talking about and is assured by the man [54:02] on the phone who we know is Kai or Key. [54:05] I already forgot how to say his [ __ ] [54:06] name. That the consignment liability [54:08] will be taken on by the new franchises [54:11] here that are coming in. So Crystal does [54:14] make a mention that Brian hasn't [54:16] received everything that he is owed here [54:19] from all the sales, but from the [54:21] bookkeeping here, it looks very messy. [54:23] So the amount that he was going to get [54:25] paid from Crystal probably still [54:26] wouldn't have been accurate. At least [54:28] not in my opinion. Not based on [54:30] everything I'm seeing here, cuz it seems [54:31] like a lot may have been overlooked, [54:33] forgotten to be updated, or just lost [54:36] somewhere along the way in the [54:37] bookkeeping, which would make it very, [54:39] very difficult for them to properly [54:41] compensate him for what they have sold [54:42] from his collection, either through [54:44] layaway or through just finishing that [54:46] consignment there on those. So, it was [54:48] already in a weird spot, but she did [54:50] recognize that there was money that he [54:52] was owed and put that on the radar of [54:54] the new incoming owners. Maybe you can [54:57] chalk some of this up to bad [54:59] recordkeeping between the U-Haul, the [55:01] layaways, the $20,000 in Lego sets that [55:03] corporate called $2 to $5,000 that was [55:05] there that night, the offbook deals. But [55:08] even if we can't like fully know 100%, [55:12] you know, what these weird things were [55:13] about, I think they tell a story of what [55:15] actually happened to Brian's collection. [55:17] In a way, multiple people, I think, are [55:20] kind of right, kind of wrong. The [55:21] Gormans were correct that more of that [55:23] collection was there that night of the [55:25] takeover than previously thought. But [55:27] corporate also alleged that some of it [55:29] was offsite and that appears to be [55:30] partly true. Although some of that is [55:32] disputed and it looks like, you know, [55:35] way more of the collection was sold and [55:37] layawayed than Brian was paid for. But [55:39] all in all, there's a lot less missing [55:42] than many people think, especially if [55:45] your starting number is $200,000. [55:47] >> Very, very, very true. Yeah. After [55:51] watching this, it is extremely clear [55:53] that from the very beginning, there was [55:56] not nearly as much missing as everyone [56:00] thought going into this story. And yeah, [56:03] bricks and mini figs seems to be liar, [56:06] liar, plants for hire in a bunch of [56:07] cases. Sure. But their claim about like [56:10] the off-site stuff, yeah, Coffey's [56:13] right. It does seem like on all [56:15] available evidence that is true. not [56:16] just offsite and then brought back and [56:18] put in the safe, but like sold offsite [56:20] like to that other guy, the M&R. And [56:24] then the Gormans are correct that there [56:26] were more Legos there than Bricks and [56:28] Minifigs is saying. And it does look [56:30] like a lot of this goes back to really [56:33] terrible recordkeeping. I don't know [56:35] whether that's like malicious like the [56:37] Gormans were trying to like scrape from [56:39] the top or try and like, you know, stiff [56:43] Brian and take the lion share for [56:45] themselves and like use underhanded [56:48] tactics for it or if it really was just [56:50] bad bookkeeping because they weren't [56:53] very good at bookkeeping. It's hard to [56:55] say for sure. I like I really I don't [56:58] know one way or the other on that, but [57:00] the layaways and how they kept track of [57:03] everything is clearly a huge issue that [57:06] definitely made this situation [57:09] significantly messier. And according to [57:11] Coffeezilla, Brian Mancel is still owed [57:14] like $50 to $83,000 [57:17] by his estimation here in payments that [57:20] he hasn't received that he should have [57:23] received in this general ballpark range. [57:26] That is the most important piece of all [57:28] this. A man who's been really wronged on [57:32] all sides here, it seems that is still [57:35] owed this money here from this [ __ ] [57:39] conundrum for Lego. He wasn't [57:41] compensated for. And I think honestly [57:43] that's something that Bricks and Minigs [57:45] obviously should handle and make right. [57:48] Regardless of what a franchisee does, [57:51] the new one, the old one, the company [57:53] behind it must stand behind their [57:55] product, their service, and I can't [57:57] imagine a better example of a company [57:59] doing the opposite. Unfortunately, [58:01] Bricks and Miniix has chosen to deflect [58:03] and dodge responsibility at most [58:06] opportunities and created a really awful [58:09] customer experience that has snowballed [58:12] into this crazy series of events. [58:15] >> That's so [ __ ] right. Coffeezilla [58:18] absolutely hitting the bullseye. It's [58:19] something I've been saying from the very [58:20] beginning. Even if Bricks and Minigs at [58:22] some point along this journey came out [58:24] and proved everyone was wrong here, at [58:26] the very core, Brian Mancel is a [58:29] customer who attempted to use the Bricks [58:31] and Minifig service because he believed [58:33] it was the gold standard and his best [58:34] bet to sell his father's lifelong Star [58:37] Wars collection for life-changing money. [58:40] and through this ended up getting [58:42] completely shafted. And yes, a lot of it [58:44] could maybe tie back to like the [58:45] terrible recordkeeping with the previous [58:47] owners, but at the end of the day, it is [58:49] something that Bricks and Minifigs [58:50] themselves should have been more more [58:53] than willing to make right on their own [58:55] because it is still their company. It is [58:57] their brand. And every step of the way, [59:00] they villainized Brian. They attacked [59:03] Brian and refused to make it right [59:05] without this huge public spectacle [59:07] putting pressure on them. Now Ammon's [59:09] singing the whole like, "Let's just all [59:10] be friends. Come grab my arm and we'll [59:12] square dance" type [ __ ] Like it took a [59:15] huge massive avalanche as Coffeezilla [59:17] describes it to finally get them to even [59:19] toy with the idea of making it right. [59:22] But they have nowhere along this path [59:24] actually wanted to do that. Which is why [59:26] I've said this makes no sense for their [59:28] business because who the [ __ ] would want [59:30] to work with them going forward? Because [59:32] if you are brand main sale in this case, [59:34] if you are a customer that wants to use [59:35] bricks and minigs and you're going to [59:37] sell through them and something goes [59:39] wrong, they're not on your side. They [59:41] have proven that they will be actively [59:43] combative against you and will do [59:46] everything they can to slap you down for [59:49] their own self-interest. That is the [59:52] most glaringly obvious fumble you could [59:55] ever make as a business. And it's [59:57] something Bricks and Minifig still to [59:59] this day refuses to recognize. But [60:02] instead of taking accountability for [60:04] that, they've taken an aggressive legal [60:06] strategy, which I told them personally [60:07] was a horrible idea. As of writing this, [60:10] Brian Mancel is being sued for 1.3 [60:13] million as part of a legal campaign [60:15] against him and Reckless Ben and any of [60:18] the associates. Remember, Brian is the [60:21] same guy who lost all these Legos at [60:24] Bricks and Miniig store. And I told the [60:26] CEO and COO that's ridiculous and they [60:28] should drop this. Look, mistakes have [60:30] been made by plenty of people here. But [60:32] there's a lot more people who have [60:34] inflicted selfowns the likes of which [60:36] we've rarely seen by just choosing the [60:39] worst possible path at every fork in the [60:42] road. No pun intended. But the best path [60:45] to making things right in my view is by [60:48] just making Brian whole and moving on. [60:51] >> Yeah. So, as Ammon continues to do his [60:54] like playing the world's smallest violin [60:56] for why won't anyone think about bricks [60:58] and mini figs feelings, we just want to [61:00] make Brian Mancel whole. That's the main [61:02] thing that we're thinking about over [61:04] here. We just have him constantly in our [61:06] thoughts and we're praying for him and [61:07] we want to help and we want to work with [61:09] him collaboratively as best friends [61:10] together. I want to kiss him on the [61:12] mouth. I want to have a group hug in the [61:13] shower with Brian and all of our team [61:15] together as one nude. just going on and [61:17] on about how their mission is now to [61:19] help Brian do everything they can for [61:21] Brian [61:23] and meanwhile they're actively suing him [61:25] for $1.3 million which is why everything [61:27] Ammon is saying about it just feels so [61:30] fraudulent feels so scummy he is a snake [61:33] he's saying that he just wants to help [61:35] him and make Brian whole again we want [61:36] to give him what he's owed while [61:38] actively suing him for $1.3 million [61:41] coffee is right that's a terrible idea [61:43] and again this should show every [61:45] customer ever in the LEGO community to [61:48] not work with Bricks and Minifig because [61:50] Brian's only crime was getting [ __ ] by [61:52] their business. Like, yes, their [61:54] franchisee, like the Gormans, definitely [61:57] played a huge role with how they handled [61:59] things and making it so messy in the [62:01] first place, but when he tried to [62:02] correct course and try and get what he's [62:04] owed and going through corporate, look [62:06] at what happened. Look at what's [62:08] happened. Yes, he went to Reckless Bin [62:09] as well where things really popped off, [62:11] but what other avenues did he have? He [62:13] couldn't fight them legally. There's [62:14] even record of a bricks and minifigs [62:17] higher up like someone that's not at the [62:19] bottom of the food chain that has a [62:21] pretty substantial position there on on [62:23] record on the phone even saying that [62:26] they will just financially bleed them [62:28] dry talking to the Gormans. They'll draw [62:30] it out in court and they'll lose more [62:31] than they would have ever made should [62:32] they win. Like going the legal route for [62:35] an ordinary citizen like Brian Mancel is [62:38] an extremely costly and not actually [62:40] attainable path. So, he tried to do [62:42] everything in his power to just be paid [62:45] what he's owed. Like, be made whole [62:47] again. Just try and get this resolved. [62:49] And look at what's happened to him. [62:50] Bricks and Minigs is suing him for $1.3 [62:53] million. I don't blame him for going to [62:55] Reckless Ben. You can point the finger [62:56] at Reckless Ben like the way he handled [62:58] it was like bad and counterproductive, [63:00] whatever. Without it, nothing would have [63:02] changed in Brian's personal situation [63:04] here. And and it's just I don't know how [63:08] anyone could possibly defend Bricks and [63:10] Mini Fig's decision to sue him here. [63:13] $1.3 million. Like he is a victim of [63:16] your business, man. Like this [ __ ] is [63:18] crazy to me. It is a terrible idea and [63:21] they refuse to back down on it. This is [63:23] why I really just don't think anyone [63:25] should do business with Bricks and [63:26] Minifigs going forward. They are not [63:28] good partners to work with. They are not [63:30] looking out for you, the person that [63:31] wants to do business with them. This [63:33] [ __ ] is just ridiculous. tried it. They [63:35] were basically met with like [63:38] unreasonable requests, things like that. [63:41] So, [63:42] >> verification, documentation. Is that [63:45] unreasonable, do you think? [63:48] >> Uh, well, I think they would say they [63:50] provided the documentation and you guys [63:52] say you need more documentation. So, I [63:53] mean, that's the kind that's kind of the [63:55] >> right a spread like I understand a [63:57] spreadsheet and a contract are are a [63:59] good start. [64:00] >> Yeah. [64:02] Yeah. But we never got that. That was [64:04] never sent to us at corporate, by the [64:05] way. [64:06] >> Y'all don't have the Y'all do have the [64:08] spreadsheet, though. Yeah, y'all have [64:09] the spreadsheet. [64:09] >> That That was shared online, but like [64:11] But months after we asked for it, [64:13] >> it says it's I I'm just I'm so confused. [64:16] It says I I'm I'm on the I'm on the file [64:18] right now. It says storage used owned by [64:20] BAMranchising, Inc. owner salem.org [64:25] bricksandmigs.com. [64:26] >> What What are you looking at? It is [64:28] incredible how Ammon cannot help but put [64:30] his own dick in his mouth all the time, [64:32] constantly. So, this is like at the end [64:35] of Coffeezilla's video now. He's given [64:37] his thoughts on this whole thing and his [64:39] conclusions and he was taking it to the [64:41] parties involved here. And when talking [64:42] with Ammon, he Ammon's like, "Oh, we [64:46] never even got that." Which is just [64:48] provably false. Copy to his face proves [64:50] that they had access to this spreadsheet [64:52] that he's claiming they didn't have [64:54] access to until months later. That is a [64:57] verifiably false statement. Ammon says [65:01] owner salem [65:04] at bricksand minifigs.com. That's you [65:06] guys. Says owned by BAM Franchising Inc. [65:10] says created September 6th, 2024. And [65:13] when I look at it, this is the the Manel [65:18] uh list, I believe. [65:20] So this this would have been created [65:22] under like so so we [65:25] we have the um we all [65:28] >> you'll definitely have this. You'll have [65:29] access to this. [65:30] >> Well, I had no idea. Then you're dumb, [65:33] Ammon. Then you're just stupid. How [65:35] about that? You're just an idiot. You're [65:37] a bumbling imbecile. You're a [ __ ] And [65:39] yet you continue to say like, "Oh, they [65:41] never even provided it." Well, you just [65:42] don't know then because you're too [65:44] stupid to know. Like what? It Ammon [65:47] actually boggles my mind, bro. It's [65:49] crazy. [65:50] >> Like, so if this is the first anybody [65:53] has shown me [65:55] >> that [65:56] >> that a spreadsheet was created using [65:59] like bricks and minifigs Salem like and [66:01] all of this stuff was archived. This [66:03] this is the first I've seen that this [66:06] spreadsheet was created by Crystal and [66:08] we don't know how accurate it is, how up [66:10] up to date it was. We don't know a lot [66:11] of those types of things. And and [66:13] understand I appreciate you sharing this [66:15] with us because we had no idea. Again, [66:17] you don't know what you don't know. And [66:18] you you can't like we don't know [66:20] everything and we don't go you know like [66:23] looking in every nook and cranny [66:24] everywhere, you know, like we just don't [66:26] know some of those things. So [66:27] >> then you're a bad business. Then you're [66:29] just a dog [ __ ] business. Like this [66:31] isn't a good defense, Ammon. Oh, we just [66:33] don't know. We just like actually don't [66:34] keep track of any of this [ __ ] Yeah, we [66:35] just like actually have no idea. You [66:37] don't know what you don't know and you [66:38] don't know your own business. [66:41] Man, wake up. Use your head. You [66:45] shouldn't be in the position you're in [66:46] then. How about like I how does that at [66:49] any in any way excuse anything of what's [66:52] happened here? It's a terrible defense, [66:54] man. Especially when you keep trying to [66:56] like poke holes in other people's [66:58] stories when you admittedly don't even [66:59] keep track of your own [ __ ] You don't [67:01] even know your own things. You don't [67:02] even know what you even have access to [67:04] in the first place. So, how can you even [67:06] be approaching things to talk about them [67:08] or opine on them? Ammon, like you're [67:11] just you're off your gourd. But yeah, [67:13] anyway, it was a fantastic investigation [67:15] that I really do think got to the bottom [67:17] of most of the meat and potatoes here. [67:19] Uh, at the end, the Gormans also [67:21] mentioned that they recognize that a lot [67:23] of this falls on their shoulders for [67:24] potentially like bad bookkeeping and [67:26] that they're more than willing to like [67:28] take accountability for that and try and [67:29] make it right, but they need the tickets [67:31] from Bricks and Minifigs, which they [67:32] said they would do that kind of stuff. [67:34] All in all, just another banger here [67:36] from Coffeezilla in an incredible [67:37] investigation and can only hope that [67:40] Brian Mancel gets made whole here from [67:44] Bricks and Minigs and they actually pay [67:46] him what he's owed. Uh that they like [67:50] they need to make things right and it [67:52] starts with making him whole and [67:53] dropping that [ __ ] lawsuit. You [67:55] actual imbeciles, man. It's crazy. [67:59] Anyway, anyway, anyway though, amazing [68:01] work from Coffeezilla. Please go support [68:04] him in any way you can. That's really [68:05] about it.