[0:05] what's up everybody Jeff Cavalier
[0:06] aex.com uh after a completely miserable
[0:10] time trying to get this thing set up I
[0:11] appreciate
[0:13] and uh en joining me here um we got a
[0:16] few guys on live here in the Google
[0:19] Hangout with us as I like to do I told
[0:22] you a couple weeks back I thought I had
[0:24] the NP for this by now but I was worse
[0:26] today than I was last time we're going
[0:28] to try to do these every once in a while
[0:29] so get a chance to reach out to you guys
[0:32] specifically on team athleen answer some
[0:34] of your questions this time as you can
[0:36] see we actually did it um in the portion
[0:40] of the Xbox
[0:42] so that I can stand up if I have to demo
[0:44] anything uh that you guys have to see
[0:47] and make it a little bit easier to
[0:48] answer questions what's up everybody
[0:50] cavali
[0:53] oh yeah someone's got a echo go all
[0:54] right so so um anyway we got a bunch of
[0:58] guys on with us uh D Miller I look down
[1:01] the line here hey
[1:04] Matt schn Shane Walsh and I thought we
[1:07] had JP on here for a minute but he left
[1:09] he'll probably be back um we're just
[1:12] gonna start taking some of their
[1:13] questions hoping that some of their
[1:15] questions would be some of your
[1:16] questions uh and see what we can cover
[1:19] here in the next 30 45 minutes so with
[1:23] that said I'll start to my left which is
[1:26] Daniel
[1:27] um what's up Daniel what's up how's it
[1:31] going how's it going
[1:34] good so um yeah I just wanted athl xer
[1:39] yeah a couple years now it's worked out
[1:41] really well for me very happy
[1:45] so what's new and exciting what's on
[1:47] your mind uh for today now that you got
[1:48] me here um I'm always uh I'm always
[1:52] looking to switch up meals so I was just
[1:55] wondering um just like wondering like
[1:58] what what you eat in a day like I was
[2:00] wondering if I could ask you like what
[2:02] you ate today
[2:04] exactly today exactly today I want to
[2:07] know um well the funny thing about about
[2:10] me really is I tend to eat the same
[2:12] thing almost every day um and it's
[2:16] something that I actually tell the guys
[2:18] that are following athle X that just
[2:21] because the xfactor meal plan is so
[2:23] diverse and that there's so many options
[2:24] that you can have over lunches and
[2:27] dinners and snacks and all that like
[2:29] generally I think think the easiest way
[2:30] to follow the meal plan is to try to um
[2:33] Zone in on on the the meals that
[2:35] actually work best for you and that
[2:36] could be a lot of reasons it could be
[2:38] availability because we got some guys in
[2:41] the UK and and and and overseas that
[2:43] follow the program that don't have
[2:44] certain things that we offer you know
[2:46] and in the plan so availability price
[2:50] and the last time we spoke Dan you were
[2:51] in college you still in college no I
[2:53] graduated now I'm full-time working so
[2:55] my schedule changed a lot
[2:57] congratulations so you know the in
[3:00] college you know lifestyle could be
[3:01] completely different about you know what
[3:02] what you can afford or can't you know
[3:04] have access to and also what you
[3:06] actually like because just because I put
[3:08] it in a meal plan doesn't mean that it's
[3:09] something that I expect you to all like
[3:11] so we tend to zero in on a few things
[3:14] that we like and then repeat them and
[3:16] for me uh my breakfast always oatmeal um
[3:20] I've made it on on video on um you know
[3:23] on YouTube we have like the pumpkin
[3:25] oatmeal oh yeah I've never tried that
[3:27] one looks good Pam pumpkin um little bit
[3:30] of maple syrup um walnuts you know spr
[3:34] time I mean it doesn't have to be boring
[3:35] you know um I have scrambled egg wipes
[3:39] with Sala and
[3:42] milk
[3:43] um I actually didn't have any midm
[3:46] morning snack because I was up a little
[3:47] bit late this morning um so I had uh
[3:51] lunch this afternoon grilled chicken uh
[3:55] on a whole wheat wrap again lettuce
[3:57] tomato salsa
[3:59] um
[4:00] chabani yogurt well it's actually uh
[4:02] slightly different one but like a Greek
[4:04] yogurt um and then just like a sometimes
[4:08] I'll have like like a diet Snapple or
[4:10] something like that you know just to mix
[4:13] it up from water if I don't always want
[4:14] to have water but I I pound water all
[4:16] day long I gota have at least 100 ounces
[4:19] um mid-afternoon snack I had a protein
[4:21] bar
[4:23] which protein bars do you usually uh
[4:25] stick to um I kind of you know I'm
[4:27] getting bored with a lot of them you
[4:29] they like I'm starting to grow out of my
[4:32] my taste I think for some of the protein
[4:34] bars they all kind of taste like chalk
[4:36] to me nowadays but have you tried a
[4:38] think thin which one think thin no no
[4:44] good they're they're supposedly natural
[4:46] I know um last time we talked you
[4:49] recommended those pure protein protein
[4:51] that's actually the one I had today so I
[4:53] still have the pure protein bars um I
[4:57] also uh try every now and then uh one's
[5:00] called two to one
[5:02] um and I also uh have had the Labrada
[5:07] Cookie Bars which are insane the way
[5:09] they taste they actually they're
[5:11] actually still meet the profile that I
[5:13] like to have in a bar which for the guys
[5:15] that are watching that aren't familiar
[5:16] with that I usually like to zero one on
[5:18] around 280 to 350 calorie range with
[5:23] sugars probably in the 12 you know 12
[5:26] gram or less range and fats if I can
[5:29] keep under 10 I try to keep them under
[5:31] 10 um and protein if I can I really try
[5:34] to aim for about 25 grams of protein in
[5:36] the bar or more okay because you start
[5:38] to see some of the options that are out
[5:39] there you've got super high fat options
[5:43] like 19 20 grams of fat I mean it really
[5:46] is no different side by side with a with
[5:48] a candy bar you know with how much fat
[5:50] is in there and then when you look at
[5:51] the sugar content that's usually high
[5:53] too so there if you I thinky way is one
[5:57] that makes a protein bar and and it's
[6:00] it's literally got like protein a little
[6:02] extra protein it but fat and sugars are
[6:04] the same and I've seen many bars on the
[6:06] market that are supposed to be sold in
[6:08] like vitamin shop that could be side by
[6:10] side with a Milky Way so glorified candy
[6:12] bar yeah exactly I mean just because you
[6:14] have extra protein it doesn't mean
[6:16] that's still not a candy water it is so
[6:19] um so those are what I eat and then
[6:20] tonight I'll have um grilled chicken uh
[6:24] probably pasta you know I I I'll have a
[6:27] you know side of pasta I'll still have
[6:28] sweet potatoes
[6:30] generally I don't double up on my
[6:32] starchy carbs like that but you know at
[6:34] times if I'm training hard I do um and
[6:38] uh and then I always have my star my
[6:39] fiberous carbohydrates too and then
[6:41] later on tonight I'll have um I'll have
[6:44] my rx3 right before I go to bed which
[6:46] I've been locked in on that now for a
[6:48] while yeah so that's that's sort of my
[6:51] thing in between there um I'll be
[6:53] working out tonight probably probably
[6:56] around um right when we're done with
[6:58] this and then then I'll have a I'll have
[7:00] an rx2 after that and I usually wait
[7:02] around an hour before I eat dinner yep I
[7:05] remember that so that's my that's my
[7:08] deal today that probably be the same
[7:09] deal tomorrow
[7:11] on Saturday too
[7:13] or a little or a little goine if you get
[7:16] a little uh lazy on the cooking right
[7:19] right yeah exactly who uh let me move on
[7:22] now to uh uh Hey Seuss hey Seuss can you
[7:27] can you actually ask a question
[7:31] probably not h
[7:36] no on to
[7:39] Matt hey Matt can you hear me yeah I can
[7:41] hear you I got I got something um so I
[7:44] have a a post-workout supplement
[7:46] question I know a lot of other popular
[7:49] uh supplements like that out there they
[7:51] have they're very sugary they got a lot
[7:52] of sugar in them and um looking at
[7:54] accelerator you know you spent a lot of
[7:56] personal time making sure those
[7:57] supplements have exactly what you
[7:59] in them can you talk about why you kind
[8:02] of went that Direction with no sugar I
[8:04] mean some people say sugar have the
[8:06] workout actually a good thing what
[8:08] what's your take on it yeah I mean
[8:11] there's there's a couple reasons I mean
[8:12] number one research shows or showing you
[8:15] more more later more lately that um it's
[8:19] not so important anymore to get carb
[8:21] replenishment so quickly after a workout
[8:24] and a matter of fact carbs an influx of
[8:26] carbs after a workout now they're
[8:28] starting say that it actually in uh it
[8:32] impacts your growth hormone release so
[8:34] the most important thing is going to be
[8:36] protein always you really it's protein
[8:38] is really going to be the most important
[8:40] macronutrient at all times consistently
[8:44] you're always going to want your carbs
[8:45] throughout the whole day like I look at
[8:46] carbohydrates as that you're sustaining
[8:48] fuel you have to have it all day long
[8:50] but I don't think there's ever a time
[8:53] that carbohydrates become a necessity in
[8:55] a given period of time or a given window
[8:58] even pre-workout out I don't look at it
[9:00] that way I think carbohydrates have to
[9:01] be your sustained your sustained fuel um
[9:05] and in doing so we usually try try to
[9:07] choose a lot of the to do that because
[9:10] we don't want to have these blood sugar
[9:12] you know impacts on blood sugar where
[9:14] we're spiking and and
[9:17] right so we want to just get the the
[9:18] more sustained releasing carbohydrates
[9:20] the lower GI carbohydrates and go
[9:22] throughout the day but again the window
[9:25] after the workout is starting to prove
[9:28] to be not so important specifically in
[9:30] terms of carbohydrates
[9:33] because you have a much longer period of
[9:34] time to replenish your muscles it's not
[9:36] like after 45 minutes your muscle say no
[9:38] we can't take any more carbohydrates so
[9:41] protein is a different story though
[9:43] because you want to start that repair
[9:44] process as soon after your workout as
[9:47] you can right you've got a completely
[9:49] different environment in your body when
[9:51] you complete a workout hormonally right
[9:54] so you want what you want to do is make
[9:55] sure that you're feeding into that and
[9:57] providing the protein right then there
[9:59] and that's why whey protein is really
[10:00] the major constituent of rx2 because you
[10:03] want to make sure that we get high
[10:04] quality fast digesting way in there in
[10:07] terms of what it does it allows you to
[10:10] add your own carbohydrates I mean the
[10:12] Cal the caloric uh levels in rx2 are
[10:15] very low like 150 calories so you can
[10:18] put a banana in there I'm not saying
[10:19] that putting carbs into your
[10:20] post-workout is a bad thing but loading
[10:23] up on carbs in your first workout I
[10:25] don't think it's necessary at all so
[10:28] again mostly because of what they're
[10:30] showing now in terms of the impact on
[10:31] growth hormone and your best chance for
[10:35] for optimizing your growth hormone
[10:36] levels is going to be off of a hard
[10:37] intense workout so don't try to do
[10:40] anything that you can to to decrease
[10:42] that you know it's really the only
[10:43] chance you have you know after hard
[10:45] training to to optimize that all right
[10:48] cool make sense yeah absolutely thanks
[10:53] uh we'll get we'll go back around a
[10:54] couple times but we move down hey Shane
[10:57] can you hear me yeah can you hear me I
[10:59] can what's up how's it going I just want
[11:04] to say greetings from Ireland it's a
[11:06] long wayel wow
[11:08] wow nice to have you here what time is
[11:11] it in Ireland it's actually 11:30 at
[11:13] night Jesus you got to go to bed soon I
[11:16] do I actually stayed up for this oh cool
[11:19] well I appreciate it
[11:22] just my question um just with regard to
[11:25] weights choosing a weight when you're
[11:27] doing going from set to set yeah should
[11:29] we be should we be trying to increase
[11:32] the weight on every set or should we
[11:34] always just pick a weight that always
[11:36] lets us fail in that 8 12 rep range even
[11:39] if that means lightening up the weight
[11:42] yeah that's a great question I love that
[11:44] question by the way because
[11:46] it's one of the things that like I try
[11:49] to always get across to um to anybody I
[11:53] train uh any of the athletes I work with
[11:56] you know especially the athletes because
[11:58] athletes get very focused on numbers
[12:00] right you know they're stats driven guys
[12:02] you know they have their stats is how
[12:04] they get paid so they get focused on
[12:05] numbers so it usually carries over right
[12:07] into their their training and with with
[12:12] the specific number like you're not your
[12:13] muscles can't count okay they don't
[12:16] they're not counting and a lot of times
[12:18] what I find we'll do is we'll set a
[12:20] number up in our head and sometimes
[12:21] we're capable of more I don't know if
[12:24] you if you me we've all found this that
[12:26] at times when you're training you have
[12:29] head that 8 to 12 range you get to like
[12:31] you know 12 and you probably could have
[12:34] done a couple extra but you figure well
[12:36] I'm already you know I'm at 12 so I'm
[12:37] done but you kind of short changed
[12:39] yourself of the most the most beneficial
[12:42] reps of that entire set are those last
[12:44] couple and I I've said it before that
[12:47] everything you do in a set is to get you
[12:49] to that last couple but at the same time
[12:52] you don't want to Short change any given
[12:54] rep so I'm actually going to show you
[12:56] something here this is going to be you
[12:58] know the the reason why I was able to
[12:59] get set up in here so if I'm here I just
[13:03] got to try push down as close to me okay
[13:06] if I'm like doing a rep here and I know
[13:08] I gotta get to I know I gotta get to 12
[13:11] or so if I'm going through here did you
[13:14] ever get to the point where you've done
[13:16] a specific rep I'm talking about could
[13:18] be number three okay so I know you can't
[13:20] see my face anymore but it could be like
[13:22] number number three if I'm on number
[13:24] three and I get a really intense
[13:26] contraction like that you're like holy
[13:27] cow I could really feel that my triceps
[13:29] if I do that for the next nine reps
[13:33] there's no way I'm going to be able to
[13:34] finish 12 have you ever have you ever
[13:37] said that to yourself you know I have
[13:39] you really been there you like oh my God
[13:41] that was like really hard I'll never be
[13:43] able to get 12
[13:45] that was a quality rep so if you kept
[13:48] doing quality reps hard you know
[13:51] conscious contraction in the muscle took
[13:53] it all the way as as much as you could
[13:55] felt it exactly where you're supposed to
[13:57] feel it I don't I don't care if you get
[13:59] seven
[14:01] if you get seven that's a great set if
[14:03] you do seven you cannot possibly do the
[14:06] eighth or the ninth or the 10th that's a
[14:08] great set now I had told you that the
[14:11] rep range was 10 to 12 or 8 to 12
[14:14] whatever you want to say so just
[14:16] decrease the weight next set you know
[14:19] because you you know you got seven you
[14:21] gave it everything you had you didn't go
[14:23] because here's the alternative I'm in
[14:25] here I do like I pick a weight I do my
[14:29] fifth rep I'm like wow holy crap that's
[14:31] really hard I'm not gonna be able to get
[14:33] 12 well let me do a couple let me do a
[14:35] couple half-ass reps here like this for
[14:37] okay seven eight nine 10 11 wa and 12
[14:40] there we go got one good rep you know
[14:43] like so you can't count like never never
[14:46] set yourself up for counting because
[14:48] like I said next set just drop the
[14:50] weight down you know go go down one or
[14:53] two placees or whatever it is and try to
[14:55] get try to do your best to fail within
[14:57] that 8 to 12 range but again only if
[15:00] you're giv quality reps
[15:02] and what would you think about bringing
[15:03] in a rest pause
[15:05] great
[15:07] great you can do a rest pause I love I
[15:10] love you know set extending techniques
[15:12] you know you can do rest pause um you
[15:15] could do burnouts so even if you failed
[15:18] at seven so you failed at seven you were
[15:20] hoping to get 12 burn it out a little
[15:22] bit drop it down you know maybe a
[15:25] quarter of the way or a half way if you
[15:27] have to and burn out for a few
[15:29] additional reps remember your muscles
[15:31] are only reacting to
[15:33] what they're feeling the stress that
[15:35] you're putting on them in the workout
[15:37] it's not they're certainly not counting
[15:40] you know yeah they're not thinking I got
[15:42] the 12 and I got enough good reps out so
[15:44] I'm done you know we're only reacting to
[15:47] the stress that you put on them all that
[15:50] than I clear lot up so cool let me go uh
[15:56] down I think we got back um we'll go
[16:00] back to the front and Daniel hey Su you
[16:02] still can't hear us right
[16:05] no um no no all right so I'll go back
[16:09] down to Daniel what's up Daniel what's
[16:12] up so uh I told you I'd be standing up
[16:15] here and get to business oh man yeah
[16:20] okay so what's um what else is that up
[16:22] on your mind that well um I just wanted
[16:25] to give you a little status update so I
[16:29] I finished athleen X1 finished athlan X2
[16:33] finished a a extreme
[16:37] oh man that last one was crazy um I just
[16:40] wonder what's next in store like what's
[16:42] next what's Jeff cooking up I know you
[16:45] got something I knew that I knew this
[16:47] was gonna come I know you got something
[16:49] I knew this would come up um so a lot of
[16:53] guys have been asking which is why I
[16:54] think you know um you're addressing it
[16:57] here you're your repr represent of a lot
[16:59] of the guys I'm representing everyone so
[17:02] we are uh working on something um to
[17:05] come out in the fall it was supposed to
[17:07] come out early this year uh as anybody
[17:10] that knows me whether it was back to the
[17:12] supplements whether it was with ax2
[17:16] that took TNTs two two years to come out
[17:19] you know at the TNT I mean I'm a I'm a
[17:21] perfectionist you know and I think that
[17:24] if there's ways I can make things not
[17:27] just better than what's out there but
[17:29] way better than what's out there then
[17:31] I'm going to take the extra time to do
[17:33] it because I think it's that important
[17:34] to do right because there's a lot of
[17:37] competition in the in the Fitness in the
[17:39] fitness field in Niche right everybody
[17:42] is coming up with the new workouts work
[17:44] out for one day and turn yourself into
[17:46] Mr Olympia you know I mean everybody's
[17:47] got all their their stuff with athl and
[17:49] X I just try to provide you with really
[17:52] effective cool training built on real
[17:55] scientific principles that real guys and
[17:57] guys at the top of the their field are
[17:59] using so what I thought was a cool
[18:03] concept for me would be in NXT which is
[18:06] basically you know a short phrase for
[18:08] next um it's GNA answer the question
[18:11] because the funny thing is the number
[18:13] one question we get from everybody that
[18:16] starts athle X like if you were to look
[18:18] at the whole group of all the guys that
[18:19] have ever joined athl X the number one
[18:21] question we get within in the first week
[18:24] is what do I do when the 90 days are
[18:25] over oh it always makes me laugh because
[18:28] you know they haven't even finished the
[18:30] first 90 days yet you know but I like it
[18:34] because it makes me know that for that
[18:36] guy this is not a short-term thing this
[18:40] is this is a this is a commitment and a
[18:42] lifestyle that he's making that he's
[18:45] like yeah I want to know because I'm in
[18:47] I want to do athl X and then I'm gonna
[18:49] do athl X2 and I want to know what I'm
[18:50] doing so NXT
[18:53] is basically going to be able to take
[18:56] you and always give you that answer
[18:58] what's next because what we're doing is
[19:00] we're going to it's all based off the P
[19:02] all the aing online and how it operates
[19:05] we're basically going to be able to
[19:07] start giving you a lot more control over
[19:11] your path so let's say currently you're
[19:15] way too skinny according to yourself
[19:17] we're going to give you the path of sort
[19:20] of really focusing on bulking up if
[19:23] that's what you want to do and then
[19:25] monthly give you new 30-day blocks of
[19:28] workouts to be able to do that are going
[19:31] to give you some flexibility within that
[19:33] so let's say you want to do a um um we
[19:36] have a new we have some of these already
[19:38] done that's what I've been working on
[19:40] and I've been training my ass off trying
[19:42] to you know put them all together
[19:44] because I don't ever ask you guys to do
[19:45] anything that I don't do myself so I've
[19:48] been doing these phases of training and
[19:50] one of them uh just as a little teaser
[19:53] is uh has got something called a tri X
[19:56] set in there and it's not what you might
[19:58] think think it is it's actually it's
[19:59] actually got a more lifting uh uh you
[20:02] know purpose for it but a tri XX set for
[20:05] example is we're going to take a weight
[20:08] that's 90% over your one rep max now 90%
[20:11] one rep max weight generally can be
[20:13] lifted around five times believe it or
[20:15] not I can so like whatever you think you
[20:18] know your one R Max is on a specific
[20:20] lift you generally can lift about five
[20:22] of those for 90% of that what I want I
[20:25] want to get three of those from you so I
[20:27] let's say a clean let's just say it's a
[20:29] it's just a clean a hang clean when I
[20:31] get three hang cleans right you rest the
[20:34] balance of 30 seconds so if it's if it
[20:37] takes you you know 12 seconds to do that
[20:40] you get an 18 second rest and then you
[20:43] do another three and then you keep doing
[20:45] that until you can't get three anymore
[20:47] until you get two and then you keep
[20:49] doing that until you can't get two
[20:50] anymore you get one and you that's it
[20:53] and that's called a triple X set now
[20:55] that has a a heavy influence in strength
[20:58] training right we're looking we're
[20:59] working on lowend triples and doubles
[21:01] and stuff like that well that's stuff
[21:03] that has never made its way into athl X
[21:05] at this point we haven't done lowend
[21:08] triples or doubles or singles or
[21:09] anything like that well because we're
[21:12] not focused strictly on strength but
[21:15] there are guys out there that want to
[21:17] focus strictly on strength so what NXT
[21:19] is gonna allow us to do is you're gonna
[21:20] be able to choose your path and actually
[21:23] have options to follow and let's say you
[21:25] actually like a month of training that
[21:27] you actually did you can either move on
[21:29] to the other options that are available
[21:30] to you that month for the second month
[21:33] or you can say no I like this I like
[21:36] this style of training at that point
[21:38] it's again very interactive at that
[21:39] point
[21:42] training this way or do you want us to
[21:44] mix up the exercises for you and if you
[21:46] say well you know I liked how it was but
[21:48] I like to get some new new new workouts
[21:51] we'll be able to because the system now
[21:53] knows intelligently we're going to take
[21:56] out this exercise and bring in this one
[21:58] instead because they work the same area
[22:01] so we'll be able to give you a new Fresh
[22:03] look at that same style of training
[22:06] so that's awesome and it's going to be
[22:08] all in the portal and everything too huh
[22:10] all in the portal and we're also going
[22:11] to be adding a lot of social interaction
[22:13] so we're gonna be taking uh areas now
[22:15] where you can communicate with other
[22:16] members within the portal um you'll be
[22:19] able to like upload your own suggestions
[22:22] like let's say you have a um a meal plan
[22:25] suggestion that you you found this
[22:27] really killer recipe that's been working
[22:28] great for you you can upload it so other
[22:31] members can use it and of course we're
[22:33] going to build in sort of you know I
[22:35] always like competition whether it be
[22:38] competition or within the portal if
[22:40] people like your recipe and it gets
[22:42] thumbed up the most and voted on the
[22:43] most we're gonna actually be able to
[22:45] take that and reward you with points
[22:47] that you can then take and cash in on
[22:49] things like future TNTs and and
[22:52] supplements and things like that so
[22:54] they'll be a point a point earning uh
[22:56] system
[22:58] that sounds great man I'm stuff yeah and
[23:01] basically the whole bottom line behind
[23:03] NXT is you'll never have you'll never
[23:06] have that question again like what is
[23:07] next for me because it's all all G to be
[23:09] athlex style training and it's all going
[23:12] to represent the latest of what I'm
[23:14] doing right now because it's all being
[23:18] produced right now so that's the uh
[23:22] that's the concept now where we where
[23:26] the idea was to put it out again this
[23:28] year it wasn't even close like that
[23:30] wasn't even what the concept was
[23:31] originally was just going to be like one
[23:34] one program for everybody to choose from
[23:36] and I was like no that's not good enough
[23:37] I want to make sure we can do it we can
[23:39] get a little bit
[23:42] in the beginning that's everybody should
[23:44] like everyone should be working their
[23:46] way through athl X1 into athl X2 there's
[23:49] a progression there's a specific
[23:51] progression from look you can try to
[23:55] tackle the xt400
[23:58] right out of the box and you're G to
[23:59] drop flat on your face
[24:02] it's a hard challenge if you work your
[24:04] way up though and through there you're
[24:06] preparing yourself and just like you
[24:08] know no athlete has ever gotten to the
[24:10] pros by straight you know straight there
[24:12] unless they're unless they're working
[24:13] their asses off you know in their
[24:15] development at every stage of the way
[24:17] you know very few athletes ever just
[24:20] kind of become a St out the back so we
[24:23] have to build you up there but then at
[24:25] that point you're ready to be able to
[24:28] to Branch off into whatever area
[24:33] so that's the concept
[24:36] that's sweet man I can't wait you got to
[24:38] give me first di since I asked first
[24:42] got
[24:44] back over to Matt all right Matt what's
[24:48] uh what's up next yeah so um I I hate
[24:51] cooking for one anything it takes a lot
[24:53] of work to do I I I just can't stand do
[24:55] it and I I I do use the meal plans um
[24:57] usually when I can but I know you posted
[24:59] a video I don't know when it was but was
[25:02] you know like a mass recipe I I used I
[25:04] make it a lot I call it the Jeff cavaler
[25:06] specials the chicken and the the thing
[25:07] with the tomato and the seasoning or
[25:09] whatever there any chance you'll be able
[25:11] to throw out some more mass cooking
[25:13] recipes like that because it really
[25:14] helps be able just do that on a Monday
[25:16] night and eat the rest of the week yes
[25:19] yes um
[25:21] it's actually the way so I'm fortunate
[25:24] enough to have a wife that cooks for me
[25:26] so uh does not
[25:30] so I I have I have that that huge
[25:33] benefit now everything because again I
[25:37] eat most of the same things most of what
[25:40] she'll do is she'll cook those things
[25:42] like let's say sweet potatoes you know
[25:44] she'll cook it all in one in one batch
[25:47] and then put it in you know freeze it in
[25:49] in all separate Tupperware containers
[25:51] like we must have like a 100 tuffware
[25:53] containers
[25:56] put them all you know like store them
[25:58] allous but when they're all used they're
[26:00] in the freezer full of all you know all
[26:02] these things it it makes her life way
[26:06] easier I mean it probably stinks to day
[26:07] she has to make it all but it makes her
[26:10] life a lot easier because you know every
[26:12] night it's just like you said just
[26:14] taking one out and it's already
[26:16] available so no it's it's how I cook and
[26:19] well it's how the cooking occurs in in
[26:22] this house but uh um you know it's it's
[26:24] I think a way that we could uh continue
[26:27] to give you more options for that I'll
[26:30] uh we'll we'll do that for sure I mean
[26:31] again and that's the kind of thing
[26:33] especially you know um with with the
[26:37] portal or things like with NXT too we'll
[26:39] be able to have people on the Fly you
[26:42] know up upload their new idea about that
[26:44] too know and be able to to share that
[26:48] so cool yeah we'll be definitely working
[26:50] on working on that I mean the concept of
[26:52] in ax2 of the lean meals and the extreme
[26:55] meals um that's kind of a cool concept
[26:58] for us too because um again it sort of
[27:01] takes your Baseline meal and it tweaks
[27:03] it one way or the other uh and we're
[27:06] gonna be adding more of those too as we
[27:08] go
[27:11] nice cool
[27:14] uh
[27:15] Shane is it past your bedtime yet or you
[27:18] still up I'm still here okay
[27:22] question I do actually um my goal right
[27:27] I'm 183 at the minute and I want to get
[27:31] to 195 or like just put on size but I
[27:36] was wondering if it's possible for your
[27:38] scale weight to go up but to be leaner
[27:42] or stay as lean because I've struggled
[27:44] with that in the past
[27:46] so you're saying that your scale weight
[27:49] has gone up but you're still staying
[27:50] lean
[27:52] no I want to I want my scale weight to
[27:55] go up but I want to stay lean as well oh
[27:57] yeah yeah okay no that's definitely
[27:59] possible um I mean I've even put on
[28:04] weight in the last three months or so
[28:07] which is actually kind of tough as you
[28:08] start to get older like me uh but I
[28:12] certainly I haven't sacrificed any of my
[28:15] leanness to do it it's something that
[28:17] I've that I've sort of been determined
[28:20] my entire life to do um I used to be
[28:23] back in in high school probably aund 30
[28:27] pounds you know um so but and I was I
[28:32] was lean skinny as a rail but the idea
[28:35] was the one thing I had back then I
[28:37] remember a guy told me a long time ago I
[28:39] walked into a gym in high school
[28:42] USA Gym in Milford Connecticut and I
[28:44] went in there to go train and the guy
[28:46] that was there probably was like 240
[28:48] pounds and he looked at me and you know
[28:52] he's like oh you got to start eating
[28:53] peanut butter sandwiches and you got to
[28:55] do this you got to do that and he told
[28:56] me how how it's going to happen B go but
[28:58] then his partner says to me kind of
[29:01] pulls me aside he's like don't listen to
[29:03] him he said you got you got definition
[29:06] man because you know at the time I kind
[29:09] of had I had ABS you know I had but I
[29:12] was a skinny little thing you know but
[29:14] um he said well look you either have you
[29:17] gotta have one of two things you either
[29:18] gotta have mass or you gotta you gotta
[29:20] be ripped he said but you can't be in
[29:23] between and I kind of I I kind of
[29:27] understood what he was saying but it
[29:29] didn't mean that I had to be skinny and
[29:31] ripped my whole life you know and I
[29:33] figured yeah just train if you train
[29:36] hard you train right and most of all the
[29:38] thing I was making a mistake about was I
[29:40] was overtraining dramatically and in an
[29:43] attempt to try to push that curve and
[29:45] make it happen faster for me I was
[29:47] overtraining like a bastard I mean every
[29:49] day training and training and training
[29:51] and I I was not allowing myself a chance
[29:53] to recover at all and for a skinny guy
[29:56] that's the big that's the biggest sin
[29:58] that you can make is to overtrain
[30:00] so I started to cut back on my training
[30:03] volumes cut back on my training days
[30:05] increased my intensity though and I
[30:09] started adding muscle and at no point
[30:11] because I always ate clean at no point
[30:14] did I did I ever start trading in you
[30:17] know start bulking up and getting fat at
[30:19] the same time completely disp spell in
[30:21] that myth that you have to get bulky
[30:23] before you can get cut you know do the
[30:25] bulky and cutting phase you definitely
[30:27] don't have to do that so what what's
[30:30] that I was never in at all so yeah it's
[30:34] it's actually it's a waste of time
[30:35] because whatever you might add in bulk
[30:37] you're still going to have to go back
[30:38] and supposed supposedly cut it and when
[30:41] you cut most likely you're going to lose
[30:43] around 90% to 95% of what you put on um
[30:47] the whatever added muscle you had too
[30:49] because it's just too hard to do it and
[30:51] then let's say you get tired of cutting
[30:53] halfway through where does that leave
[30:55] you you like let's say you just kind of
[30:57] fall out of fall out of the training and
[31:01] you're like three cors away through your
[31:03] bulking face well you're just going to
[31:05] stay fat for the you know for a long
[31:07] period of time after that because people
[31:09] realize that the cutting part is a lot
[31:10] harder than the bulking part anybody can
[31:12] eat like a pig but cutting is gonna be a
[31:15] lot harder so if you you cut out halfway
[31:18] through you know par in the pump but if
[31:19] you cut out and you stop working out
[31:21] then you're just left in that bulking
[31:23] phase and you're not going to look very
[31:24] good so um what I would recommend to you
[31:28] is check your training intensity you
[31:31] kind of asked a question related to that
[31:33] before about you know the 8 to 12 rep
[31:35] range and you know and I don't know
[31:37] because I'm not there training with you
[31:39] but if you're counting a lot and
[31:41] thinking that the 8 to 12 is where where
[31:43] you need to be and and if you're really
[31:44] focused on numbers as opposed to what I
[31:46] told you before then really what you're
[31:48] going to want to do um is forget the
[31:52] numbers concentrate on your intensity
[31:54] right give it everything you've got for
[31:57] the short period of time that you're in
[31:58] the gym with athletx to give it
[32:00] everything you've got you'll start to
[32:02] see the addition of muscle because
[32:04] you're giving yourself a stimulus to
[32:06] build without having to change your diet
[32:10] you know to be to bulk up just continue
[32:13] to feed yourself properly you know make
[32:15] sure you're nourishing your muscles that
[32:17] you're training make sure if you're into
[32:19] supplementation that you're
[32:19] supplementing and you're staying
[32:21] consistent and then at the end of the
[32:22] day know that you got a hard workout in
[32:25] that's what's going to add muscle so
[32:27] hard training with the proper nutrition
[32:29] is just going to add muscle you'll never
[32:31] have to worry about adding even a single
[32:32] percent body fat in order to do that
[32:37] all right cool thanks sure
[32:40] um we'll go one more one more time down
[32:42] the down the list here is is is Jes I
[32:46] think he's he's the iPhone guy he's on
[32:48] the iPhone so I don't think he can even
[32:50] hear us right no I don't know about that
[32:52] one goes in and out and oh he say he's
[32:54] here all right so he got a chance let's
[32:55] ask him a question here since I got him
[32:58] right now and then we'll go down the
[33:00] list Jus
[33:04] yeah he's he's gonna type it here I'll
[33:05] read it when he when he can type it in
[33:07] I'll tell you what he can start typing
[33:09] it now we'll go Dan we'll go to your
[33:10] question and then I'll read Jesus's
[33:12] question yeah um I'm re I'm following
[33:14] along with the chat that's on the Google
[33:16] Hangout as well and speaking of myths um
[33:19] one of the guys um from uh Amsterdam
[33:22] actually was asking a question about
[33:24] myths um he said he's 18 and people keep
[33:28] saying that real proper muscle growth
[33:30] starts at the age of 21 while training
[33:34] is that true or is that a lie is that a
[33:36] rumor no that's that's that's got I mean
[33:39] muscle building you all you gotta do is
[33:41] look around at your circle of friends
[33:43] right we've all got that one big friend
[33:45] right who who seemed like he had hit
[33:47] puberty around nine you know right I
[33:50] mean yeah we've all got I remember my
[33:53] you know my friend that was like that
[33:55] and was like you just used to sit there
[33:56] go man how did he get so big so quick or
[33:59] whatever and it's really an individual
[34:01] thing you know there's there's different
[34:03] hormonal environments go you know inside
[34:05] of everybody and that that's largely
[34:08] genetic and um there's also bone
[34:11] structure that's that's obviously
[34:13] largely genetic um doesn't mean that
[34:15] anybody can't craft a a really good-look
[34:19] physique but you know you start your
[34:20] canvas might be different because again
[34:22] from bone structure or from you know
[34:24] from genetics but everybody with hard
[34:26] work can actually take their canvas and
[34:28] maximize it but um no I would say that
[34:31] there's guys that certainly can can
[34:33] flourish in their early teens me I was
[34:36] the opposite I I I was exactly what you
[34:39] were saying there I probably started to
[34:40] hit my stride when I was in college um
[34:43] because I think I might have started
[34:45] high school at 130 like I said and might
[34:47] have finished it around 145 you know so
[34:51] I was able to add a little bit of muscle
[34:54] really college and honestly through my
[34:57] 30s you know still adding it so it's a
[35:00] much slower process but it doesn't
[35:02] matter it's real it's real muscle it's
[35:04] not like this temporary you know um you
[35:08] know here today gone tomorrow type thing
[35:09] because I'm doing something tricky or or
[35:11] or doing something illegal you know that
[35:14] that's why steroids never had an appeal
[35:16] to me because I always felt like I as a
[35:18] young kid I'll admit I sat there and I
[35:20] was like oh man they they do that free
[35:22] or they do that fore and you my father
[35:24] was a medical doctor and he would have
[35:26] killed me if I ever did anything killed
[35:29] me like I could have just moved out you
[35:31] know but I thought to myself even if he
[35:34] wasn't going to kill me if you're
[35:36] telling me that what I'm you know that
[35:39] doing something like that is going to
[35:40] give you temporary gains which you're
[35:43] going to lose most of stop and we know
[35:45] that you can't take that long term
[35:47] because of the health you know problems
[35:49] associated with them what the point you
[35:52] know so just instead just be in it for
[35:54] the long haul and work at it every day
[35:57] a pression
[36:00] um that was a much better route for me
[36:03] and again it doesn't matter where you
[36:05] start to see your development could be
[36:07] early could be in your mid late to team
[36:09] late teenss it could be you still could
[36:11] have some really good growing days ahead
[36:13] of you a lot of great great grown days
[36:14] ahead of you all depending upon you know
[36:17] that but you got to make sure that
[36:18] you're training you know training the
[36:20] right way nice um I think Jesus's
[36:23] comments ready I see it I want to get
[36:26] rid of section fat but I can't I lost
[36:29] about 60 pounds well congratulations
[36:31] that's cool man uh I was doing high
[36:33] intensity interval training got really
[36:35] skinny in the face
[36:38] my
[36:40] well um the issue with belly fat is as
[36:44] they say it's usually the first part
[36:47] that guys gain and it's the last part
[36:50] that that it leaves right so you know
[36:53] and the other way around in terms of our
[36:55] faces it's the first place that we lose
[36:57] fat is in our face now I've got a pretty
[37:00] bony face you know and a lot of it
[37:03] because of the level of my of my
[37:05] leanness so um you know you want to make
[37:09] sure that uh you understand that we have
[37:13] preferential areas that are that we our
[37:15] bodies like to dispose of fat when we
[37:17] are uh cutting and and losing weight
[37:20] what I would say to you is um you know
[37:24] you you still you're not going to get
[37:25] rid of the midsection fat unless you
[37:27] continue doing what you're doing um
[37:31] I I hate the answer but the answer is
[37:33] kind of that you happen to be one of the
[37:35] guys that kind of loses it from your
[37:36] face and ultimately you're going to
[37:39] platel on that so it's going to come
[37:41] down to a point where you lose enough
[37:43] and then that's going to kind of stop
[37:45] from there and you'll continue to resume
[37:46] losing it from the rest of your body
[37:49] wherever you're retaining it again it's
[37:50] something that I have had to deal with
[37:52] myself I I used to have a nice big full
[37:54] face like a you like I was carrying uh
[37:56] like a squirrel you know but as I got as
[38:00] I got leaner you know I got I definitely
[38:02] lost some weight in my face and I've
[38:03] always said to myself I wish I was a
[38:05] little bit had a little bit more
[38:06] underneath my my you know like my cheeks
[38:08] here because it can kind of make my eyes
[38:10] look dark and but you know it's just how
[38:13] it's how I'm made you know and um to me
[38:16] to be lean everywhere else is what's
[38:18] most important so I would say to you
[38:20] it's not like you're going to keep
[38:22] disappearing in your face until it's
[38:23] completely gone so you've lost probably
[38:26] all your lose in your face and if you
[38:27] keep doing your high-intensity training
[38:29] it obviously worked for you you lost 60
[38:31] pounds if you keep doing that you're
[38:33] going to eventually see that that
[38:35] stubborn area the last to go will
[38:37] eventually leave and then you'll be left
[38:39] with a face that you know people have
[38:41] gotten to used to by that point uh and a
[38:44] body that you know you're happy with
[38:49] cool um
[38:52] uh so now let's go down next to Matt
[38:54] again all right um so I'm always someone
[38:57] who's tried a lot of supplements and I
[38:59] know you're critical of that industry so
[39:00] I'm definitely interested in what you
[39:01] have to say y um other than one 3D which
[39:05] I know you hate and I've actually
[39:06] stopped e because of your videos good
[39:09] are there any other supplements that you
[39:10] think if are um if not dangerous at
[39:12] least kind of a waste and and don't
[39:14] really do anything
[39:16] um like I I've been I've tried uh nitric
[39:20] oxide I've tried zma you know for
[39:22] sleeping um some other stuff and it uh
[39:25] tribulus
[39:27] some of that stuff just it doesn't
[39:28] really I'm not a big pro hormone guy uh
[39:31] at all you know I'm not a really big
[39:32] believer in them I don't think it's um
[39:34] something that you really want to be
[39:36] playing around anyway um you know there
[39:41] there have been documented evidence in U
[39:45] in cases of PR hormones actually having
[39:47] a lot of you know dilus effects as well
[39:50] like like 13 diad um and you know
[39:54] they're not as in the rage anymore
[39:55] people don't really talk about it much
[39:57] anymore anyway you know I remember when
[39:58] I grew up that was the big thing and
[40:00] especially came out and said that he was
[40:03] using you know interin Dion that you
[40:05] know he that kind of brought a lot of
[40:07] attention to those too but once we kind
[40:09] got through that phase um you we left
[40:12] with a lot of a lot of similar
[40:13] supplements these days you know a lot of
[40:15] weight proteins a lot of things like you
[40:17] said um um well creatin variations on
[40:21] creatin and zma and uh uh you know other
[40:24] recovery type things and sleep aids and
[40:26] you know my feeling on self Miss has
[40:28] always been
[40:30] you're you know they react differently
[40:33] to every person right you might
[40:35] experience some great benefits from zma
[40:38] where someone else may not my problem
[40:40] comes into just the danger of it if
[40:42] you're gonna start putting in something
[40:44] into supplements like one3 dith and then
[40:48] act like nothing is wrong because you're
[40:50] piling up the money as you sell bottle
[40:52] after bottle after bottle of people but
[40:54] you know evidence strong evidence in
[40:57] actual you know cases where they're
[40:59] linking this directly to the death of
[41:01] people that are using it in cases like
[41:03] that that's just Splat out wrong you
[41:05] know and I I I can't you as you know
[41:07] from that video I did I think it's
[41:09] totally irresponsible the supplement
[41:11] manufacturer um I think it's because
[41:14] don't tell me they don't know that and
[41:16] if you don't know that then you're not
[41:17] researching what you're putting in your
[41:18] supplements so um I just have a real big
[41:23] problem with the with the safety of
[41:25] ingredients if you are putting
[41:27] ingredients in that are not safe now we
[41:29] got a problem if you're putting in
[41:30] ingredients that may not work because
[41:32] for you they didn't work and for someone
[41:34] else they did that's anecdotal then you
[41:37] know and maybe it's working for the
[41:38] other guy for no other reason other than
[41:41] um placebo effect you know maybe he's
[41:44] just loving it you know and he because
[41:46] it changes how he feels about himself
[41:48] but if it changes how he feels and he
[41:49] goes into the gym and trains harder
[41:51] because he feels good about himself he's
[41:53] going to start seeing results because he
[41:55] feels more energetic
[41:56] about himself not just from the
[41:58] supplement but about himself he has a
[42:00] harder workout he gets more results so
[42:02] no to answer your question there's not
[42:04] many other ingredients right now that
[42:06] are on the market that are dangerous um
[42:09] at least not to my knowledge you know um
[42:13] but those are the ones that I have a
[42:15] problem with and all the other things
[42:17] you know again sometimes are out there
[42:19] because they're they're Creative
[42:20] Marketing angles you know new take new
[42:23] spin on something we all know that works
[42:25] anyway you know so it's like well we're
[42:27] going to have this concoction to make it
[42:29] you know even even even better or
[42:31] whatever hey I mean some people will
[42:32] have better results from that some
[42:34] people won't but as long as you're not
[42:36] talking about playing with somebody's
[42:38] Health through your supplements then I
[42:40] don't really think it's a you know it's
[42:42] something that um is all that wrong
[42:44] because there's there's people that are
[42:46] gonna you know that are going to
[42:47] experience different results so okay
[42:50] cool thanks sure
[42:54] um
[42:55] Shane
[42:57] he's still up I'm still here right let
[43:01] your let's get your last one then we'll
[43:02] go like a quick um round table last time
[43:05] through like a like a on line or
[43:07] something like that uh or Parton comment
[43:09] whatever you want and then we'll we'll
[43:10] wrap it up all what do you got Shan
[43:13] um this question is with regards to
[43:15] cheat meals now I can go the whole three
[43:20] months of athx without eating anything
[43:23] bad no problem but what what point would
[43:26] you recommend having one to kind of get
[43:29] that extra energy boost or if you're at
[43:32] a plateau maybe kind of change up your
[43:34] diet a bit yeah it's funny about cheat
[43:37] meals because you know I've always said
[43:40] that let's just you know as long as
[43:41] you're looking at them exactly as you
[43:42] stated it cheap meals as opposed to
[43:44] cheap days um you know that's the main
[43:49] uh that's the main difference um a meal
[43:52] I I've used this analogy a ton of times
[43:55] but I'm going to use it again because I
[43:56] think it really helps to uh
[43:58] conceptualize this you know um a cheap
[44:00] meal um you got to look at the number of
[44:03] meals in a week that you're going to eat
[44:05] and if let's say you're eating five to
[44:06] six times a week right five to six times
[44:08] a day you know you're looking at 35 to
[44:11] 42 meals now if you think that one bad
[44:14] meal if you're locked in on 35 to 42
[44:17] meals and you think that one bad meal
[44:19] that you splurge on is going to undo all
[44:21] of that then you're underestimating how
[44:23] powerful your body is you know it's very
[44:25] resilient just as resilient as it is to
[44:28] building muscle and changing composition
[44:30] it's also resilient to the types of
[44:33] foods that you're eating like it likes
[44:34] to stay in one area that's the whole you
[44:36] know concept of homeostasis it likes to
[44:38] stay as it is so one really fatty meal
[44:43] or one you know really high sugar meal
[44:45] or whatever yes it's going to have an
[44:46] impact on your blood sugar or you know
[44:50] your uh you just sort of the environment
[44:52] in your body for that for that instance
[44:55] but it's not in the whole schem of thing
[44:56] going to do anything and often times
[44:58] what you'll wind up seeing is and even
[45:00] in my own experience that I'll go out to
[45:02] like Michael Jordan's and we'll just eat
[45:05] whatever you know I go up with a group
[45:06] of people we'll eat whatever we want and
[45:09] um you know it you feel like you've
[45:12] eaten badly or poorly and the next day
[45:14] you feel bigger stronger and more ripped
[45:16] than ever you know and like had nothing
[45:19] but grease and and and oil and all that
[45:21] stuff in their in their food a lot of
[45:24] times your body reacts favorably to that
[45:26] because it is it's just like that it's
[45:27] just like a workout it's like a it's
[45:29] like a a temporary shock to your system
[45:32] so you there's a there is potential to
[45:35] fall into a little bit of a status quo
[45:37] of just healthy meals so every now and
[45:40] then a cheap meal that's where the
[45:42] benefits of a cheat meal would come in
[45:44] is that it's just simply a shock to the
[45:46] to the body and a lot of times you're
[45:48] getting nutrients that you aren't really
[45:49] necessarily getting if you're just
[45:50] locked in um could you see great results
[45:53] without ever having a cheat meal of
[45:55] course you could but if you are tempted
[45:58] to have a cheat meal and the ability to
[46:00] stay on the program or fall off of the
[46:02] program is hinging on whether or not you
[46:04] allow yourself to do that then
[46:06] definitely allow yourself to do that
[46:07] because you want to be locked in for the
[46:09] long term and continue to do the
[46:10] workouts you don't want to let your
[46:13] decision to not allow yourself to have a
[46:15] single cheat meal make you fall
[46:17] completely off the wagon and then lose
[46:19] everything no that would never happen no
[46:22] well there you go but I mean you know
[46:23] you can certainly you can certainly have
[46:25] cheat meal without it feeling as if it's
[46:28] um you know that you're undoing
[46:29] everything that you were that you were
[46:31] doing and for that main concept as as I
[46:33] was going with that you know with that
[46:35] analogy a baseball player that bats 40
[46:37] for 42 is going in the Hall of Fame
[46:40] that's a guarantee
[46:42] I don't really know much about baseball
[46:44] we don't really play it here yeah
[46:46] Cricket a cricket player that that that
[46:48] does something like that with the
[46:49] cricket bat is definitely going to be in
[46:51] the cricket Hall of Fame that's in
[46:53] England or I'm in Ireland oh well you
[46:56] don't play what do you play in Ireland
[46:57] soccer only right uh we play hurling
[47:01] ever heard of that one no gck
[47:05] no all right well you know the hurling
[47:06] Hall of Fame
[47:08] there you go
[47:11] um all right cool let me go back to the
[47:12] beginning here we'll go quick down the
[47:15] line Daniel uh Jesus oh he's out all
[47:20] right so um we'll just go Daniel I just
[47:22] had a I just had a quick parting uh
[47:27] statement I guess okay I just wanted I
[47:30] just wanted to say thanks again for
[47:32] having this chat and everything you do
[47:34] on YouTube for free everything like that
[47:37] um I just it it's changed my life so
[47:40] positively like everyone now thinks that
[47:43] I'm like some health freak and that I'm
[47:45] spending so much time like working I'm
[47:46] like I'm only in the gym for half an
[47:48] hour man like people are still like
[47:50] warming up by the time I'm done and like
[47:53] yeah it just like the way your program
[47:55] works in like a lifestyle like me where
[47:57] I have like a ninto five job like it
[47:59] works and it and it fits in well and I I
[48:02] feel like I'm able to like do everything
[48:04] and not it doesn't like change my life
[48:06] it just makes my life better and I got a
[48:08] girlfriend now so she she en it so
[48:12] definitely um I just want to let
[48:14] everyone know that like I love the
[48:17] program it's worked out for me and just
[48:19] stick with it guys and it like I've
[48:22] never hit a plateau it's always uh I'm
[48:25] always growing and getting leaner and
[48:27] everything year round and I just
[48:29] appreciate like everything you do for us
[48:31] Jeff like I I know like you hear it a
[48:33] lot but I just wanted to reiterate that
[48:34] like I really truly appreciate
[48:37] everything yeah no thank you I mean
[48:39] seriously it means a lot and I
[48:40] appreciate your guys appreciating uh
[48:43] what we do and what I do it's like uh
[48:46] you know there's not a there's not a a
[48:47] minute that goes by in a day that I'm
[48:49] not thinking something about athl X or
[48:52] something in some way that I can sort of
[48:55] give you guys something to uh benefit
[48:57] from and you know from the early parts
[49:01] of the week already brainstorming what
[49:03] the what the Friday video is going to be
[49:05] about to you know I mean everything it's
[49:07] just like we try to do um stuff that you
[49:10] guys are going to see that's beneficial
[49:12] but at the bottom line yeah I want you
[49:14] to work hard but I want to give you real
[49:16] stuff I'm not trying to give you um you
[49:20] know the latest trendy crap or the stuff
[49:23] that that people are sort of you know
[49:25] the receiving uh ads and all that like
[49:28] either you want to do it or you don't
[49:29] want to do it you know but I I I it
[49:31] works it definitely works and you're a
[49:33] definitely a testament because uh for
[49:35] those that are watching that don't know
[49:37] I had a chance to talk to Daniel and I
[49:39] haven't talked to him in in two years as
[49:40] I think he said before we got on air but
[49:42] I had a chance to talk to him a couple
[49:44] years ago after a a TNT uh he purchased
[49:47] one of the TNTs from matle X you know
[49:50] and this guy is still here you know and
[49:53] still following everything and and it
[49:55] that's the strongest you know uh
[49:57] Testament that what is going on here in
[50:00] affle X is actually working and works
[50:02] for the Long Haul because if it didn't
[50:04] you wouldn't still be here and you being
[50:06] on this chat I do appreciate it and
[50:07] because as a longtime member um it's
[50:10] guys like you that kind of are the torch
[50:11] bearers all the new guys we have a lot
[50:13] of new guys coming in now and it's the
[50:15] torch Bearer because you you're you
[50:16] inspire the other guys to know what's
[50:18] possible so I appreciate it yeah looking
[50:21] forward to the future everything else
[50:23] you're releasing everything always helps
[50:25] man you always have the newest ideas the
[50:28] best stuff and just thank you again oh
[50:31] you're welcome for to speaking with you
[50:33] sometime soon maybe couple years down
[50:35] the road all right man you got it let's
[50:39] go Matt yeah I'll just say real quick um
[50:42] I I won't name any names but I've done
[50:43] all the other bigger DVD based programs
[50:46] and this is by far the best I've gotten
[50:48] better results in this the last four
[50:49] months in any of those multiple rounds
[50:50] of those programs so looking forward to
[50:52] continuing keep it up great to hear man
[50:55] man appreciate it no seriously and thank
[50:57] you for being part of this
[51:00] and uh Shane the send off in Ireland
[51:04] um yeah I just want to say like
[51:05] obviously the guys had their input but
[51:08] when I first got asley next I was
[51:10] probably the most skeptical person you
[51:12] could see like there was so many
[51:15] programs out there and you just didn't
[51:16] know which one to pick from but I gave
[51:19] it a go did ax1 loved it on my second
[51:22] round of ax2 at the minute and loving
[51:24] that as well and the looks I get in the
[51:27] gym and the questions I asked what are
[51:30] you doing where are you getting it from
[51:33] I did the xt400 there a couple of weeks
[51:35] ago and the amount of questions I was
[51:37] getting after it I was in the puddle of
[51:39] sweat and everyone just wants to go on
[51:42] to it now so I'm promoting your product
[51:45] that's cool I well you know and what's
[51:47] really one of the coolest things about
[51:48] it is you know I'm teasing you here
[51:50] about hurling and everything else but um
[51:53] I I am always fascinated you know about
[51:56] how many guys we have around the world
[51:58] we have people all over the place um
[52:01] that are using athleen X and every day
[52:05] it it's just astounding to me I think
[52:07] it's really really cool I wish at times
[52:09] that I could be a little bit more um a
[52:13] little bit more eurocentric you know
[52:14] where I I am a bit more in tune on a
[52:17] schedule standpoint but here you are
[52:19] doing this you know late at night and
[52:21] you're staying up and I appreciate that
[52:23] and it's like I'm so locked into East
[52:25] Coast mentality here you know outside of
[52:27] New York that I'm always sort of on a on
[52:30] a schedule that conflicts a lot of times
[52:32] with the guys overseas but um you know
[52:36] it's not that I don't appreciate that I
[52:38] appreciate any less what you you're your
[52:39] guys support for what I do so hopefully
[52:42] in the future we'll be able to start
[52:43] timing some of these things a little bit
[52:44] more conducive to your your schedules um
[52:48] as that but just want to make sure it
[52:49] doesn't go understated that your uh your
[52:52] fanship and your your following athex
[52:54] and everything
[52:55] is just as important as everybody here
[52:57] uh in the States because it's it's it's
[52:59] all team athlete and I think it's a I
[53:01] think it's great all right thanks very
[53:03] much thank you all right guys well that
[53:06] uh brings us to the end of this Google
[53:08] Hangout if you didn't have a chance to
[53:10] be part of it um just stay tuned you
[53:12] know over on Facebook we do post the uh
[53:15] when these are occurring so far they
[53:17] haven't been with a lot of um lead time
[53:20] and they certainly haven't been without
[53:21] a few um uh technical difficulties to
[53:24] get we're getting better at so just stay
[53:27] tuned if you aren't already a fan on
[53:29] Facebook you know head over there it's
[53:30] just facebook.com
[53:33] next you can become a fan and we post
[53:35] all kinds of things obviously all the
[53:37] time but we do Post notices of when
[53:38] these Hangouts will be it's my
[53:40] opportunity to get back in touch with
[53:41] you guys uh as fans and give you a
[53:44] chance to ask me questions directly all
[53:46] right but uh I will be back here as I
[53:49] said uh before to Daniel we got another
[53:51] video coming this week uh back here in
[53:54] the Xbox all new stuff all right and in
[53:56] the meantime make sure you check out
[53:58] athlex over at aex.com I'll see you guys
[54:01] back here in a couple days all right all
[54:03] right thanks Jeff all right thanks Jeff
[54:06] see you guys