[0:17] nice hello everyone hi hello it's me [0:22] Doug and we're here today with cars and [0:26] bids yes indeed today we have Kenan who [0:29] you know well and filipo hello who I [0:32] know [0:33] well yep no fipo runs our operations [0:36] here at cars and bids and he's been one [0:37] of my closest friends for many years and [0:39] we are all close friends we all hang out [0:42] right did last night we did last night [0:44] yep now we're here today what a crazy [0:46] world there's a lot to discuss in the [0:49] world where what are we going to start [0:51] with I want to start with the Biden car [0:53] okay yeah can p can you pull up the [0:55] Biden car please mhm hold on if I just [0:58] Biden it'll probably come up too [1:00] honestly the Biden car okay we sold Joe [1:03] Biden President Joe Biden of the United [1:05] States we thank you we sold this [1:08] Cadillac atsv which has got to be one of [1:11] the coolest presidential cars although [1:12] Trump had a Diablo Roadster yeah which [1:16] is the coolest presidential car yes [1:18] definitely he also I believe had the [1:20] first F430 in the United States I think [1:23] it was a coupe I remember seeing it at [1:24] Amelia Island many years ago F 430 [1:26] number one yeah but [1:28] anyway [1:30] this is Joe Biden's Cadillac which we [1:32] sold great spec great spec was like a [1:36] one one with a special interior I read [1:38] the whole story about this car and it [1:40] was really really really cool like Biden [1:42] walked into the dealership post vice [1:44] presidency but pre-residency there was [1:45] that four years where Trump was [1:46] President where he was you know a [1:48] regular person and he walked into the [1:50] dealership and basically was like I want [1:53] this brown interon like we don't do it [1:54] in the V cars and he called up Johan [1:56] denish who was his who was the CEO of [1:58] Cadillac and they got it done and he [2:01] like drove the car in and that the [2:02] dealership says in there they wrote up [2:04] this like whole thing about it they said [2:05] that he um would come in for oil changes [2:08] and like enjoyed hanging out at the car [2:09] dealership because his dad was in the [2:10] car business and he like enjoyed that [2:12] aspect of the world Nick can you return [2:14] to us sometimes can you show us [2:18] occasionally Douglas is now engaging [2:20] with our producer the table but it's so [2:23] cool and it got a ton of Interest 190 [2:25] comments and let me tell you we um had [2:28] to moderate pretty heavily [2:30] there were a few more no the comments [2:32] were all totally rational and reasonable [2:34] and and completely normal um thank you [2:36] to the 190 people or that left comments [2:38] that were appropriate that were [2:39] appropriate how many people do you think [2:41] left comments that were inappropriate I [2:43] would rather not say but it was exciting [2:44] to see a great result [2:46] 77776 people just resist they can't stop [2:50] themselves from from doing it they have [2:52] to say something y they don't like the [2:54] guy they don't like they have to say [2:57] something they can't not make it [2:59] political folks it's just a Catal like [3:01] atsv which sold for what has to be an [3:04] atsv record including when new including [3:06] new that's true uh but it's great I mean [3:09] I love that the 1776 reference here oh [3:13] interesting didn't think about that um [3:16] so that's Jo the Joe Biden Cadillac ATS [3:18] can you just scoll down how many views [3:19] do this listing get how many views did [3:21] the listing get he wonders over 100,000 [3:24] which which is thrilling wow what do [3:26] they usually get 10 to 20 is like a [3:29] really strong auction it's like a it's [3:31] like a normal for a car like this car [3:33] like this this got picked up by quite a [3:35] few different places to I think NBC did [3:37] something on it and uh it's not every [3:39] day that the president presid car comes [3:42] up for sale yeah that's that's very true [3:44] someone says imagine if it was Saddam [3:45] H's F40 that would be insane it would [3:49] yeah it would be it would be insane it [3:51] sure would be if you have saddam's F40 [3:54] which was out there somewhere years ago [3:56] please sell it on cars and bids we would [3:58] we would love to have that yep that [4:00] would be a cool auction as well last [4:03] update I saw that it wasn't running so [4:04] well it was like but well what happened [4:07] was they tried to get it serviced in [4:08] Kuwait I I did like a deep dive on this [4:11] thing himself tried to get it serviced [4:13] in Kuwait they said in Period and yeah [4:18] there were all sorts of problems and and [4:20] they they then they couldn't get parts [4:21] from Ferrari because there's trade [4:22] embargos and stuff and so they were [4:24] there was just like a a general blanket [4:26] against Ser no one wanted to serice No [4:27] One legitimate wanted to service that [4:29] car [4:30] and so that's why like the remember the [4:31] pictures that had like Mickey Mouse [4:33] steering wheel it was just dumb crap [4:35] yeah of course but yeah um can I request [4:39] that we talk about the next car closing [4:41] the next car closing is a Bentley Mulan [4:45] what do you want to talk just so cool I [4:47] love the that's all I wanted to say that [4:50] car is just it's just what a Bentley [4:53] should be when that pulls up behind you [4:56] you get out of the way because it's just [4:58] like man that's somebody doing something [5:00] important um and I've always just or [5:03] somebody Rich doing something somebody [5:04] Rich doing something my my my oral [5:07] surgeon uh when had like who did my like [5:10] uh wisdom teeth extraction his daily [5:12] driver was a mosan was a white mosan [5:15] which was very cool he had some really [5:16] great cars probably was expensive at [5:18] that time too it's expensive still that [5:21] like $400,000 so so it's either some [5:24] really important or you know [5:27] oral important in my life yeah it can [5:29] either be a very important person or a [5:32] oral surgeon in suburb North regard you [5:34] you've driven this car I this car you [5:37] and I did a video with it together in [5:39] Washington DC years ago that's true no I [5:41] I weren't you there I thought we did a [5:43] flying spur but maybe God look at that [5:46] no no no we did a m I did a msan at that [5:48] dealership I just don't know if we did [5:49] it together um and an SLS I think you're [5:52] right I think it was there for both yeah [5:53] I drove this car I love this car I think [5:55] it's one of the Great Cars why do I not [5:57] own this car why do I not daily this car [5:59] I am important who needs to do something [6:01] important or whatever Ken said so bidd [6:03] so we're closing [6:05] currently right now consider a $70,000 [6:08] car this is a you could straight trade [6:11] your 1997 Land Rover Defender where the [6:15] the the speedometer wobbles [6:18] between like a 30 mph range at any given [6:20] moment that's not disclosed in the list [6:23] that's they all do it sure sure it's not [6:25] just that design for this I know this is [6:28] so cool it is such a legit old school [6:33] angry the thing about Bentley refined R [6:35] the Flying Spur is a better car in every [6:38] respect this looks better but this is [6:41] just cooler the person who went in to [6:44] buy this walked right past that car like [6:46] didn't look at the kind of LGT volag [6:49] this Volkswagen crap nope buy a real [6:51] Bley they traded in their Arnage to get [6:53] this that's what they did there's that [6:56] statistic that Bentley gave that I've [6:57] said before maybe even on this program [7:00] that the average net worth of a [7:01] Continental GT owner was 3 million and [7:03] the average net worth of an Arnage owner [7:05] was 30 million even though the cars in [7:07] price were only separated by like 80 [7:08] grand it was the type of person the [7:10] taste of and the WAN of course is the [7:12] car that replaced the it is the type of [7:14] car that somebody who owns an E-class [7:15] wagon would buy no it's like no this is [7:17] like a no but it's the same price [7:19] fundamentally that a new one yeah I [7:22] think these are so cool and I forget [7:24] about them because you never ever ever [7:25] seen them but deeply can't remember I've [7:28] seen more AR na [7:29] our Nazis are around a little bit more [7:31] msan are are a lot a lot a lot less [7:33] common this is such a CO so cool um all [7:36] right that was all I wanted to say about [7:37] it you just wanted to talk about how it [7:38] was cool and stately and that's about it [7:40] yeah would slap you in the face it would [7:43] at that six and 3/4 liter and I would [7:45] let it nice can we discuss the most [7:48] interesting sale of the day so far the [7:51] Biden car which was not the Biden car [7:53] pull up the last rivan sale your mind is [7:55] going to be you saw this I saw this Ken [7:58] look at this wow 66 for the SUV right an [8:02] r1s just sold for 66 now 20,000 M car so [8:07] body damage there's a couple things yeah [8:10] but that but that's like normal it's [8:12] normal was well spec that's the one 66 [8:16] G's that this is like becoming this is a [8:18] what is it new 90 plus it in Florida too [8:20] that that hurts a little cuz the EV [8:21] Market isn't as hot you know in the [8:23] South no but it's man 66 these are [8:26] becoming affordable reasonable cars not [8:29] 66 is that affordable but it's more [8:31] affordable than 90 and they will be in [8:32] the 40s before long for a car that's 2 [8:34] years old right crazy are r1s are what [8:37] like high mile R1 ts are in the 50 the [8:39] the cheapest one we sold was [8:41] 59 that's pretty crazy they're coming [8:44] down fast yes so cool I want an r1s if I [8:47] could pick it up for 66 you could today [8:50] I could have could have today supect to [8:53] had a reserve and could yeah definitely [8:54] had a reserve still yeah but he he I [8:57] would guarante him 6 no I'm kiding I [8:59] would I do want an r1s but I I'm I'm I'm [9:02] stepping back from buying cars at the [9:04] moment uh except for the one I'm getting [9:06] two weeks have you announced what that [9:09] is I think maybe but I we'll keep it a [9:11] secret if not uh I I mentioned it on an [9:14] Instagram comment that then kind of got [9:15] algorithmically exploded buying a Toyota [9:18] seoa which is a car that is large um boy [9:22] the bids keep coming in the masan then [9:23] again why shouldn't they it's big and [9:26] luxurious while K is is on the in home [9:29] page can we look at two other cards that [9:30] I just want to talk about yeah what do [9:32] you get C5 Corvette Z6 God you are [9:35] obsessed obsessed with Corvette right [9:37] now I don't know why it's a wonderful [9:39] car but you are not a C5 Corvette guy I [9:42] think this but I think that I've become [9:44] one no you you this is like a recent [9:46] thing and I don't think you're serious [9:47] about this that is a seriously excellent [9:50] car and it's a wonderful value for the [9:51] money they drive great I think they look [9:54] awesome those wheels are killer they're [9:55] reliable all these things you are not a [10:00] why aren't I because you like I should [10:03] be you have an E-class wagon and like [10:06] it's just like it just a yellow Corvette [10:08] like come on get out of here I do love [10:10] the shape of the true Coupe and I think [10:12] yeah that that profile that profile is [10:14] cool right the true Coupe which very few [10:17] were only the Z6 and then one model year [10:19] of non Z6 oh it's so cool I was telling [10:22] kenon this earlier but the first fast [10:24] car that I was ever in as a passenger as [10:26] a kid was a C5 Corvette not not Z6 C5 [10:29] Corvette and I I I moved from Italy [10:32] where our cars had 60 horsepower and 104 [10:34] horsepower I just looked this up right [10:37] and then my neighbor had a our neighbor [10:39] had a a had a C5 Corvette mov from m to [10:42] the Midwest and of course his neighbor [10:43] had a C5 Corvette it it was in Western [10:45] Massachusetts thank you you didn't have [10:46] a choice surprising uh the the neighbor [10:48] next to them had the beginning of the [10:52] Midwest it was just I I'm sure he didn't [10:54] even floor it all the way but it was and [10:56] you were like Trooper for yeah this is [10:58] what a America is y i I haven't felt [11:01] that feeling [11:02] since about the speed not about America [11:04] you know great right right we always are [11:06] feeling that about America but that's I [11:09] just don't see like I just don't see it [11:12] fully legitimately won I mean it's no [11:14] Reserve you can put your money where [11:15] your mouth is right now that car were in [11:18] California uh that's that's what's [11:20] holding you back not the fact that it's [11:21] a yellow qu correct everybody always [11:24] says that that's like the number one [11:25] thing man if that was just local to me I [11:28] would have bought it would also be the [11:29] second most I've ever spent on a car I'm [11:31] in all these Facebook market Facebook [11:33] groups where they talk about I'm selling [11:36] like a wagon one the wagon one is my [11:37] favorite wagon El wagon elitist triks [11:39] and the guys are like people post their [11:41] car and man if that was in New York dude [11:44] if that was in New York you would just [11:46] find another excuse that's not the [11:47] reason you're not buying that car you're [11:50] just people who want things like that [11:52] make them happen right you you bu you go [11:54] to buy in my opinion you go to buy the [11:56] right car wherever it is like I bought [11:59] but here's the thing if you don't like [12:00] really want it it's more of like an [12:01] impulse purchase it helps if it's near [12:04] you maybe it shouldn't be an impulse [12:05] purchase maybe it should be something [12:06] think the ab give it one week do have [12:10] four uh was it 4 405 yeah so man so I [12:13] would have more horsepower than you have [12:15] which is an important rule yeah you'd [12:17] have you'd have by a little bit by a [12:19] little bit you have more torque than the [12:22] M5 does too but then again you'd have to [12:25] sit in that awful interior that's [12:27] terrible plastic [12:29] rattling around and you just and then [12:31] you'd also have your America plates on [12:33] that car like you know I mean it would [12:35] be something I give it a week and if you [12:37] still feel that way then pursue it but [12:38] there's no way that you buy one of those [12:41] I just don't see it but I want one all [12:43] right sorry we can continue though let [12:45] let's move on for my desire to have a C5 [12:47] Corbat all right let's talk about the [12:48] lifted smart car please oh sure yeah [12:50] let's please pull that up it's one of [12:52] the featured ones okay now the [12:54] interesting thing about this car and [12:56] this is something that Kenan is not [12:58] aware of [12:59] but you are y this smart was not sold in [13:02] the United States SM was this is a first [13:04] gen smart okay yep they were imported by [13:07] this company in these Coast that [13:09] federalized them somehow and uh so you [13:12] see them occasionally but even though it [13:14] looks just like the smart that was sold [13:15] here it was it is not the smart that was [13:17] sold here now this particular Smart [13:19] looks a little different because it is [13:20] modified for off-road use Kon have you [13:22] considered the purchase of this smart uh [13:25] nope why you know it really fits into my [13:28] life it is it is cool I'll give you that [13:30] but it is so cool yeah it is cool I [13:33] think the first J smart is just cool in [13:35] general and any off-road build right [13:38] kind of just helps I just want to know [13:39] was going through this person to go [13:41] offroading right you're killing it right [13:44] and also the those first gen headlights [13:45] are just yep plastic so um early a cheap [13:51] car yeah it was made this you should be [13:54] all over this car because it was made in [13:55] conjunction with a German automobile [13:56] manufacturer and a watch company so you [13:59] especially should [14:01] be oh a watch [14:04] car watch all cars good it's cool I mean [14:08] I know but imagine a car watch combo [14:10] platter no I watches or watches car I [14:13] mean no I not watch watch Cars or cars [14:15] you don't think there should be any [14:16] crossover no I mean the brightling I [14:18] think so the the brightling and Bentley [14:21] did a crossover where you know [14:22] brightling put the you know the clocks [14:24] in the cars were made by brightling and [14:26] then they did one for watches and I [14:28] think watches are like the most goh like [14:31] tasteless terrible watches and they're [14:34] they're just these huge crazy busy it's [14:37] like that's like it's just lame well [14:39] they know who's buying brand new [14:40] Bentley's let's be honest yeah in O like [14:43] o6 like yeah but it was you know I don't [14:47] like those crossovers the Ferrari panai [14:49] one's another one Porsche Porsche does a [14:52] bunch of por Porsche has Porsche Design [14:54] also which is like a whole thing doesn't [14:55] have any respect yeah not not the watch [14:59] World Porsche they learn the Porsche [15:02] brand name didn't carry its way into the [15:03] watch there are serious watch [15:04] manufacturers that have had [15:05] relationships with car companies but [15:08] like they're generally not well regarded [15:11] and poorly executed I have found but you [15:13] know well this went the other way this [15:16] went the other way right yeah wild but [15:19] you know a car um unfortunately it seems [15:21] like the Mulan msan excuse me did not [15:23] quite sell but B didn't get there but [15:26] someday it [15:27] could it will they it will depreciate [15:30] like it continue continue to keep going [15:32] down um can we next discuss the fat [15:34] truck yeah please okay K you know about [15:38] this yeah hold on if I just SE if you go [15:40] into the search fat it'll probably pull [15:43] up yep there it is all right what is [15:44] this thing filipo tell us it's an [15:46] amphibious four-wheel drive ATV that [15:49] also comes with a transport trailer [15:51] which you can see in that first picture [15:53] it's it's you can just go everywhere [15:55] truly everywhere literally you the the [15:57] thing like about [15:59] the thing that I like about this is not [16:01] the fact that it has a door in the front [16:02] and I don't mean a front door no no the [16:04] door is where in kenan's car where the [16:06] engine is y okay that's not the thing I [16:09] like BMW [16:10] IA likea the thing I like most about [16:13] this is that the lower half of the [16:14] vehicle is wheel well you need some [16:18] really large tires yeah the tires is you [16:21] need when you when you go it comes time [16:23] to replace them it would be pricey man [16:25] that's some sidewall the lower half of [16:27] the vehicle is wheel you know what the [16:29] approach angle on this is infinite it's [16:32] like a it's like [16:33] 195 an approach right you can go [16:35] everywhere doesn't make any sense I love [16:38] this thing I imagine it could climb a [16:40] wall like the H1 Hummer could you [16:42] imagine it what like the the H1 Hummer [16:44] could famously climb a vertical wall [16:46] this could easily c yeah the [16:49] the approach is there W video does it [16:53] it's a joystick not a steering wheel [16:55] control F it's a Jo what's it powered by [16:58] something like small diesel it's a it's [16:59] a turbo [17:01] diesel2 L turbo dieser 4 the [17:03] unfortunately the engine photos don't [17:05] help me out very much yeah they don't [17:06] yeah don't well they don't help anybody [17:07] out figuring out what's in that car um [17:10] finally we had a listing description [17:11] that that noted it it's a 22 L turbo [17:13] diesel cylinder yeah from cater he had [17:17] already said it I wanted a visual [17:18] representation of it I also like that [17:21] it's represented in hours who has who [17:23] has any idea what that means unless you [17:25] spent time around construction equip [17:27] okay it's 263 hours is that a lot I [17:30] don't know can you go to the interior [17:32] pictures what do you think it's a lot [17:33] for something it's not a lot for K in [17:35] the world of hours what do you think um [17:38] 263 you think it's like coming up on the [17:40] 100,000 mile Mark just getting broken in [17:43] man hey look at all those seats in the [17:46] back you can fit eight eight people wow [17:48] you could fit 20 people in this thing [17:50] well there are seats for eight yeah but [17:52] this is where is this located in Grand [17:54] Junction they're putting as many people [17:55] in it as they can find they don't care [17:57] there there's no rules out there what a [17:58] world yeah this so cool what is this [18:00] Ford [18:02] lot this looks like kind of wild this [18:04] looks like something they didn't really [18:06] have access to when they were look at [18:07] those buttons that is a row of buttons [18:10] that is a row of buttons you can see the [18:12] horn there is no BS here like carefully [18:15] sculpted automotive interior buttons no [18:18] no there you got you got horn you got [18:20] the light bar wipers all all these old [18:23] school it almost looks like they just [18:24] went to a label maker and like printed [18:26] out which one did what stuck this works [18:28] though these you can buy these switches [18:30] on any and then you just kind of wire it [18:34] man man the opposite of Tesla truly [18:37] green that's right man look at those [18:39] seats those do not look comfortable have [18:42] you considered one of these for the east [18:43] coast to carry lots of people in look at [18:44] the seat backs oh yeah they're just wall [18:47] 90° hey you like metal I a great [18:50] ergonomic design dude it's called the [18:52] fat truck okay it's not going to be a [18:55] luxury car you want to go plac loser [18:58] yeah [18:59] exactly dang what a vehicle I love when [19:02] stuff like this comes up on on Cars and [19:04] Cars and bids it's just like we just [19:06] find like the weirdest stuff which is [19:08] great in addition to like great cars in [19:09] general but I like stuff that's like I [19:11] just wouldn't think about yeah sure okay [19:14] first thing is Robie Robbie says Kennon [19:16] needs to turn off night shift his screen [19:18] is yellow about this um just don't worry [19:21] about it okay can we start with some [19:24] questions here yeah let's Robbie has [19:26] sent us many many many many questions I [19:28] asked him for questions I begged him and [19:29] so he sent me like 50 so let's just [19:32] start from the top and I'll just go [19:33] through them and I'll give you all the [19:34] answers number one uh from Miguel is any [19:36] car more villainous than the Mercedes [19:37] Pullman no uh true every every dictator [19:41] and like bad person ever like had a yep [19:44] had a pman yep [19:46] um question for all from Alec Norris [19:49] what is the furthest you have traveled [19:50] to buy a [19:51] car when we lived in North Carolina I [19:54] went to Maine to buy our e-cloth wagon [19:55] that's pretty far I went to Florida from [19:58] Ohio to buy a car that's pretty far I [20:00] think that's about as far we went to [20:01] Minnesota from Philly I went from [20:03] Atlanta to San Jose to buy then I drove [20:06] it home the worst mistake of my life I [20:09] think you win I think you win yeah [20:11] definitely you ever bought a car from [20:12] Europe oh you know in the from the [20:14] Ferrari came from Dallas but that's not [20:15] nearly as far as and you didn't like go [20:17] no I didn't I mean I didn't go but I [20:19] bought the car no I drove through Dallas [20:20] on that trip and I kept going that's the [20:23] thing you're like God I still have so [20:25] far to go yeah yeah I mean that was that [20:27] trip was one of the experiences in my [20:29] life you went with your mom I went with [20:30] my mom from Las Vegas to Denver and then [20:32] my best friend Joe came with me from [20:33] Denver to Atlanta and let me tell you [20:35] something when you passed the Arkansas [20:36] border and it's night and you're like [20:40] I'm not even [20:41] close yeah that's a tough feeling [20:45] yeah that's you know famously though [20:47] it's a comfortable car it's looking [20:50] right and refined and not Buzzy on the [20:52] highway yep and the AC didn't work right [20:55] you to discover that on the drive home [20:56] AC work discover that very yeah like the [20:58] first day was July went through the [21:01] desert it was a tough Drive [21:04] kind either it's not like it gets cool [21:06] at any point right no it really it only [21:09] when you got into the mountains um next [21:11] question is from question mark oh why [21:13] doesn't Kenan own a V10 BMW yeah Kenan [21:17] reliability next next [21:19] question now I just I I don't grab I [21:22] love the E60 M5 and I love the E63 and [21:25] 64 M6 um I just for the E39 I also think [21:29] that the E39 is the way it delivers [21:31] power is a little bit less compromised [21:33] the V10 is amazing but it doesn't really [21:35] make a lot of torque down low its torque [21:36] curve is much higher and so you really [21:38] got to strangle you really got to like [21:40] rev it out to get the most out which is [21:42] a lot of fun but around T like if you're [21:44] just trying to drive around town the M5 [21:46] to me feels faster because the torque [21:48] comes in much lower in the Rev range and [21:50] so I kind of prefer that delivery on the [21:52] highway though the V10 the M5 and M6 is [21:55] one of the craziest experiences I think [21:57] you can have in especially the manual [21:59] one it's just like it's just insane but [22:01] for me I just you know if I'm going to [22:03] I've invested in taking care of one very [22:06] high maintenance BMW and to own any to [22:08] own one of those V10 BMWs you have to be [22:10] ready to own a Ferrari basically it's [22:12] the very similar cost of Maintenance [22:14] between the two it's very intense very [22:16] expensive and just like for me it's not [22:19] what I love it's not worth it to me but [22:21] to a lot of people it is and to those [22:22] people it's an amazing car so that's [22:24] that's why I don't have one I was 18 [22:26] when that car came out and um [22:28] I still remember thinking to myself wow [22:30] they came out with a V10 yeah what will [22:32] they do next and I assumed it would be a [22:35] V12 yeah I mean that was The Logical [22:38] yeah progression I was like they're [22:39] going to do a V12 M5 someday no no and [22:42] then turbos I didn't know back but I [22:45] think I believe I'm correct in saying [22:46] the the V10 the M5 the E60 M5 is still [22:49] the fastest M5 in terms of top speed it [22:52] cuz it can do over 200 and the other m5s [22:54] don't I remember when it came out 500 [22:55] horsepower was insane at the time na [22:58] horsepower in [23:01] a yep the [23:04] E63 E55 had done 469 horsepower in3 that [23:08] was an enormous leap from the previous [23:11] from your car which was 400 yeah it was [23:12] a huge leap [23:14] 394 394 I I just want it his was only [23:18] 394 his yeah 394 what a weak link the [23:22] E55 in that era had 360 and so 360 395 [23:25] and then they went to 469 like oh my [23:29] Lord yeah and then BMW came out with B [23:31] this is what we got what's up and don't [23:34] forget the Formula One tie there cuz [23:35] they were building V10 Formula 1 engines [23:37] at the time and that is you know there [23:39] there was a lot of tie together there [23:40] more so than your car wow you know it's [23:43] interesting that you mentioned the [23:44] Formula 1 [23:46] V10 that car has a more that car has a [23:49] more like defendable link to Formula 1 [23:51] than yard as I think Kon I just read the [23:54] whole history of it and there's a book [23:55] coming out about the C GT uh it no but [23:59] someone else is and I've pre-ordered on [24:01] Amazon it cost hundreds of dollars it [24:02] makes no sense but they figured they'll [24:04] sell 1,200 of them because everybody's [24:05] got a C by and in that book it will say [24:09] I haven't read the book yet it's not out [24:11] yet but I was I was did a deep dive into [24:14] this and the engine was developed for [24:16] Formula 1 footwork yep was never used in [24:20] Formula One then it was then they put it [24:22] on then they just tried to get it into [24:23] Lon couldn't do that either and so then [24:26] you know they they put it in a road car [24:28] I put it in a boxer that's what they did [24:30] a long Bo a long boxer Crow GT is like [24:34] one of those dogs that's [24:35] long a do yeah but you know like a long [24:40] one yeah okay we'll move on yeah uh [24:43] kenon next question for [24:45] you [24:47] um hey Nick do you want to go to hosts [24:50] only we can get rid of the Bottom bar [24:52] thank you oh nice um okay B me okay okay [24:58] here's a good question from MJ Rich 18 [25:01] what other what states are red flags to [25:03] buy cars from he actually says the [25:05] question is actually what other states [25:06] besides Florida are red flags to buy [25:08] cars from I won't buy cars from Florida [25:10] I I don't pursue that it's it's [25:11] terrifies me and I don't want to go down [25:13] that road kenon what else do you get can [25:15] I add in one because I I just [25:17] experiencesin well I I no I bought [25:19] reclass wagon from Maine and it was [25:22] previously in Vermont before that and I [25:24] just spent $5,000 redoing the the break [25:26] lines because they all Russ apparently [25:28] on wt12 if any state where like that [25:31] uses road salt uh which is Northeast [25:35] know this know it really hit me hard in [25:37] the last three weeks of getting this [25:39] repaired as someone who likes to work on [25:41] cars like yeah there's a huge difference [25:44] so yeah I agree the kind of all the the [25:46] M Midwestern states and the Northeast [25:48] really problematic one it's a surprise [25:49] is actually Utah PE one of our our [25:51] specialist is from there originally and [25:52] he says everybody pictures Utah as like [25:54] dry desert and cacti everywhere whatever [25:57] but no it's like [25:58] they use road salt there and so there [25:59] are a lot of rusty cars actually from [26:01] from from Utah so that's one maybe you [26:03] don't think about that it's like that no [26:06] I don't agree with any of that I would [26:08] say like Hawaii is one because the Salt [26:10] Air you get a lot of rust so God the [26:12] Salt Air some of those islands are like [26:14] four hours to drive across are you four [26:17] hours from the ocean where you currently [26:18] are you got more Salt Air than like half [26:20] of Hawaii people are like oh it's an [26:23] island there Salt Air look around you [26:25] can walk to the ocean from here are you [26:27] guys are you salt there are the cars [26:29] down are the cars down here rusting [26:31] salty boy one of them is pretty Rusty [26:33] down here that yellow Defender I'm [26:35] looking at that car is [26:37] brilliant it did rust because of the [26:39] Salt Air but that car is a few hundred [26:41] feet you don't understand the difference [26:42] between 100 and kenon had has had [26:44] problems with numbers all day today I'm [26:45] sorry for [26:47] that no but Florida is definitely a red [26:50] flag Florida is the biggest one because [26:52] of the title stuff and in addition to [26:55] hurricanes and humidity where mold all [26:58] that the weather doesn't trouble me in [26:59] Florida it's just like there is a [27:01] culture of kind of scamming and like you [27:05] just have to you have to be a little bit [27:06] more aware if you're going to buy a car [27:08] from Florida um yeah do your homework [27:10] the title stuff you're referencing is [27:12] like Florida is kind of notorious [27:13] they'll title a lot of stuff they'll [27:14] title wash stuff you just have to know [27:16] you got to get a Carfax you got to get [27:18] an inspection you got to get like we [27:19] post 300 pictures yeah you need all that [27:22] you need kind of need that otherwise if [27:24] you're looking at a V8 Vantage and it's [27:26] in Florida and you're like this is ter [27:27] Grand cheaper than all the other ones [27:29] yeah there's a reason I don't know what [27:31] it is yeah I agree with that you'll find [27:34] out [27:35] eventually we'll find out that um okay [27:42] next question [27:45] for fipo [27:47] sure hey [27:49] Doug why not sell 80% of your cars and [27:52] buy a mura SV before it's too late no I [27:55] have no interest in it's too old it's [27:56] too compromised it's too difficult to [27:57] live with you were glad I was able to [28:00] answer that question huh I'm glad I was [28:02] able to answer that question would you [28:03] buy any is there any older car that you [28:05] want to [28:06] buy or if you can consult I I may [28:09] rephrase that slightly you answer that [28:10] too but this one applies to you as well [28:12] if you and because some of us have done [28:13] it if you Consolidated all your cars [28:15] into one car that you're going to have [28:17] what would it be well for you you have [28:19] two you should be what would you pick [28:22] I'd pick my E450 alteran and some index [28:24] fonts I mean I can't I got kids the [28:27] spirit of the seoa oh you want like a [28:30] super car I don't know what do you want [28:32] well what I got pract I'm a practical I [28:34] think that's more like what this [28:35] question is yesterday Doug made some [28:37] complaining comments about how he he [28:39] didn't get to drive a superar that day [28:41] of course he drove to work in his 4 GT [28:43] that very day it was the afternoon [28:45] though so I think that that if if you [28:47] had solely an E450 altering you'd Miss [28:49] yeah I know but that's the only I mean I [28:51] what are you balance with you mean cars [28:53] no no one what one car you probably [28:55] realistically get an E63 you get an or G [28:58] I will say this if I had to sell if I [29:00] had to choose between one of the three [29:01] supercars I would choose the [29:03] Countach wow that's such a lie I think [29:08] interesting it's I think you need to I [29:10] think you need to do that back to drive [29:13] them both back to back and then this is [29:15] the answer of then the career GT in that [29:18] order specifically this is the answer of [29:20] somebody that first of all just got the [29:22] co touch back from service we'll have a [29:23] video soon it's like getting a new car [29:25] for you at this it's been gone and [29:26] secondly that doesn't have to drive it [29:28] with any frequency if you want a sports [29:30] car experience but that's part of that's [29:32] part of it but it's cuz you can also [29:33] choose to drive your 4 GT or your career [29:34] GT when you want like a more I had to [29:38] get rid of them all and just pick one if [29:40] I moved into a onecar garage place and a [29:42] driveway for the station wagon so you're [29:43] saying that the what you're effectively [29:46] saying there is the Italian flare and [29:48] style and drama is way is preferable to [29:51] you than the Precision Engineering [29:54] driver Centric folk you appreciate the [29:56] experience more of that more in the [29:59] theater more than the actual driving and [30:00] you know what else C GT you know what [30:02] else the Kos is also really special when [30:05] it's just sitting here and we're looking [30:07] at it in a way that the other ones [30:09] aren't yeah I agree with that that's [30:10] fair but it is is the coolest car in the [30:12] world they're also they should they [30:14] should cost twice what they do and [30:15] honestly if they cost twice what they do [30:16] I might answer this question a little [30:17] bit differently the current layout that [30:19] he has them parked in is kunos 4 GT CR [30:22] GT and it's actually that is kind of the [30:25] spread because like the interesting the [30:27] Kos is at the extreme of just style and [30:31] experience and craziness and the CR GT [30:34] is the ult is the Focus driver car and [30:35] the 4 GT sits right in the middle [30:37] because it's beautiful to look at it's [30:39] like it's got a pretty jaw-dropping [30:41] design on its own gets a lot of [30:42] attention when you drive it for instance [30:44] and it's also wonderful to drive it's [30:46] like right in the middle and it's more [30:48] reliable it's a good three we just if [30:50] only we could have an f42 well but we [30:53] can't and we won't Kenan here's a great [30:55] question for you and but you won't know [30:58] the answer Ben asks what is a forgotten [31:01] superar that deserves [31:03] recognition forgotten super cry that [31:05] deserves recognition yeah this is [31:07] definitely a k question not a fipo [31:09] question um I think the EB 110 deserves [31:13] more of recognition than you know [31:14] they're selling for like three million I [31:15] know but still like people often [31:17] Overlook it um not people with 3 million [31:20] yeah but cuz I bought everything it's [31:22] because everything else is 5 million now [31:23] um yeah that's not untrue I think that [31:27] that's one I think deserves more [31:29] recognition I still I know this is kind [31:31] of odd but I think the Veyron still gets [31:33] glossed over a lot like we were talking [31:34] about like our top five super cars [31:36] shiron does too um but the Veyron like [31:39] cuz it's kind of it did its thing it's [31:41] just like kind of a given you just like [31:42] accept that there but when you consider [31:43] the truly great super card that deserves [31:45] not to be on that list and it seldom is [31:48] yeah which I think is a big deal I know [31:50] that sounds crazy because it is a ultra [31:52] high tier car but like I don't think [31:54] people really appreciate the level [31:57] engineering required to do what they did [31:58] are we going to look back on those and [31:59] say wow they were a million at one point [32:02] because it was the fastest car in the [32:03] world it it only made 300 or 400 it was [32:05] like this incredibly amazing feed of [32:07] engineering the thing that's scaring [32:09] people off today is the cost of [32:10] ownership but like will it be looked at [32:12] as like one of the all-time great [32:14] someday probably I mean that was that [32:16] was the poster when when we were kids I [32:19] mean not kids but like when we were [32:21] growing up that was like the coolest car [32:23] in the world yep period yep everyone [32:25] knew the stats that episode of Top James [32:28] May maxed it you know every where they [32:30] race the plane remember that you know [32:32] and it's interesting the McLaren F1 [32:33] similarly for a long time was avoided by [32:36] collectors because of how expensive they [32:37] are to take care of and eventually you [32:41] know yeah now Grant they made a lot more [32:43] Veyrons than they did f1s but still yeah [32:46] but if you know the point stands like I [32:48] think they are undervalued for a 30X [32:50] multiple at this moment of the the so [32:54] yeah uh they didn't make 30 times more [32:57] um of course Ken also has a C5 Z6 up on [33:00] the screen just for you F this one is [33:02] closing so I'm kind of give you a real [33:04] Market I I thought you were going to [33:05] answer I thought you going to answer the [33:07] Forgotten superc car question with with [33:09] the6 no you have a minute and 4 second [33:11] inide if you're going to buy this car so [33:13] but while we're looking at this can we [33:14] look at that [33:15] CRX yes we yes sure thank you what would [33:19] you like to tell us about the CRX mostly [33:21] I love it when we sell cards that have [33:23] had one owner from new so this guy has [33:25] owned it for 23 years for 33 years [33:29] excuse me and he still it with us the [33:31] seller acquired this serx new in March [33:34] 1992 like the this [33:36] guy's yeah this guy owned it for 33 [33:39] years or very close to 33 years wow yeah [33:43] that that plates would be 92 how many [33:46] miles K uh this one has let's see [33:49] 125,000 he has been buzzing and buz [33:52] around Sherman Oaks in for for 30 years [33:56] I think that that's so cool when [33:57] somebody keeps it that long both because [33:59] it's just always cool to see a car like [34:00] this that [34:01] was sometimes destroyed by owners 3 [34:05] through 12 have just one owner stolen [34:08] many times right and and also I always [34:11] find it cool when they sell it with us [34:12] like yeah it's exactly what we were here [34:14] for and it's cool I've certainly [34:16] mentioned this before like I think it's [34:17] always I if I'm like going through the [34:19] editing queue and I see a one in a car [34:21] they're selling it with us and it's an [34:22] older car in particular I I usually send [34:24] them a message like thank you so much [34:25] for selling this with us necess it's [34:27] it's very touching you're letting go of [34:29] something that's yeah you've made [34:30] memories and and it's been a part of [34:32] your life a long time I think that's [34:34] really cool and it's always very [34:36] touching right it is it's I totally [34:37] agree it is super super special that's [34:39] so cool um go back to the interior [34:43] photos there real quick go to the one [34:45] one to the right like the CRX on the [34:48] door panel yep you don't get a lot of [34:49] cars sadly only with the door panels you [34:53] don't get a lot of cars that have the [34:55] badge including the font and size [34:58] replicated on the door panel let see if [35:00] got a better picture of the door panel [35:01] here for you I wouldn't mind there we go [35:03] I wouldn't mind if my Land Cruiser said [35:06] in that font that's right above the [35:07] license plate Land Cruiser across the [35:10] entire front door you know if you're [35:13] forgetful person it is helpful I support [35:15] that right yeah what a cool car these [35:17] are so so so special God look how they [35:19] did the door pillar you see that the the [35:21] the um that was so bizarre did you see [35:23] that fipo oh how they do it on the door [35:26] no this seat belt why did they put the [35:28] oh yeah yeah it's fascinating why is it [35:30] in the door was the door just so long [35:33] that it couldn't maybe otherwise you [35:34] couldn't get into the back seats it [35:35] isn't because of that little track thing [35:37] no it's not for this one how weird it [35:39] might be for for how they did a third I [35:41] guess that's for back seat access [35:43] actually pretty good idea it would never [35:44] be allowed today you could never put a a [35:46] seat build in a door I mean the door's [35:48] going to get hit and Buckle in a [35:49] collision it's [35:51] laughable but that's but you could in [35:53] 199 back in that [35:55] then to watch the end things changed so [35:59] cool what what are the mods on it just [36:02] that a it's an extensive list of [36:05] modific what mod done period probably [36:09] xity flywheel and CLA I mean wellknown [36:11] stuff cool okay next question from MJ [36:15] Rich 18 who's asking all the questions [36:17] and I love it first car you learned to [36:19] drive manual on filipo yeah um we didn't [36:24] own a manual car when I learned to drive [36:25] so it was two different friends [36:28] uh family cars so but one of my friends [36:30] Tristan his family had two manual cards [36:32] a Volo V70 manual second j70 space um [36:37] and a golf a a mark four golf and then [36:40] my other friend Nikki her dad had a [36:42] Maser Protege5 stick um and they very [36:45] kindly let me borrow it drive was it [36:49] yellow uh no sadly it was black uh uh so [36:52] I'm pulling it I'm pulling up something [36:54] specifically on my phone so I have a [36:55] list of every car I've ever driven my [36:58] entire life uh since I started driving [37:00] cars and I wrote down and I can tell you [37:01] exactly what the day I learned to drive [37:03] manual transmission this is the level of [37:05] wait I want to talk about this which is [37:08] the which was July 29th 2011 and it was [37:11] in an NC MX5 wait wait on get the list [37:14] back out here this is an absolute can I [37:16] have the you learn Drive in what was [37:18] like the first car on the list Chevy Mal [37:20] Max 2005 my dad had green Max let me Dam [37:24] what a dream L all right do we know how [37:26] many are on this list no I've never [37:28] tabulated like the number that have you [37:29] consider just copying and pasting it [37:30] into a spreadsheet yeah I mean then I [37:33] have to go into like an app on my phone [37:35] you don't have vins no I never wrote [37:37] down vins that was a mistake I never [37:38] realized at the time I should have I [37:40] wish I had done that that would have [37:41] been insane I'm scrolling through these [37:42] Diablo [37:45] VT drive for this purposes it has to be [37:48] over 20 minutes I have to drive the car [37:49] for over 20 minutes I have to get like [37:51] an understanding of what the car is [37:53] about oh so just moving it moving it [37:55] does not count like when I worked for an [37:57] exotic car dealership if I just moved it [37:59] in I that doesn't that's doesn't tell [38:01] look at some of these 2007 Mercedes-Benz [38:04] ML 320 thanks to me that was my service [38:07] loader from uh yeah any anytime any car [38:10] any car I've ever driven um as long as [38:11] Sundance LS golf cart yeah you golf [38:15] carts I yeah like [38:18] Dr I drove it on cornado so like that [38:20] Bentley cental R Millennium that car was [38:23] that car was awesome that that [38:25] transmission you know was expecting it [38:27] to be rotten just awful it was not the [38:30] second I wanted it to kick down it just [38:32] it would do it it was oddly very quick [38:35] at it and it was just like so stately [38:38] but man you talk about a car that felt [38:40] tall kind of tall and like you know rly [38:42] poy man that was it but it was very cool [38:44] some of the cars on this list are are [38:46] are bad but I mean youo thanks to Megs [38:49] thank you Megs if you're watching AB [38:51] pleas my friend Megan that was a that [38:53] was it that car [38:54] was he wrote down it's weird what he [38:57] decided to write down the date that he [38:59] drove it the car then the model year [39:02] sometimes but not always cuz one time it [39:04] say Honda Civic sedan and there's a name [39:06] but it doesn't give he doesn't know I [39:08] didn't know it didn't care it didn't [39:09] matter to me for that car can you favor [39:11] can you just scroll to a random spot all [39:13] right yeah what you what what just where [39:15] does your finger land Mercedes 2014 [39:17] Mercedes E350 hey vesa is written Ford [39:21] 2013 Ford Expedition King Ranch and on [39:24] the very same day he drove an Avant 2 [39:27] yep those both of my uncle's car one [39:30] week later he got it on E46 330ix [39:33] although actually the E46 was called the [39:35] 330xi but I'm not going to I'm not going [39:37] to change it or anything PUO 505 turbo D [39:41] 1975 yeah my cousins yeah that that car [39:43] had one of the nicest ride it was just [39:45] so comfortable on October 14 of 2014 [39:49] kenon testro of a Lincoln M K went drove [39:51] a Lincoln MKC and a Lincoln MKZ and it [39:54] appears hybrid yes it appears he did it [39:56] at a Lincoln dealership he Dr on test [39:58] drive yes my my grandfather for some [40:01] reason wanted to go look at those cars [40:02] and so he went in his Lincoln [40:04] LS and then he bought as it turns out a [40:07] Lincoln MKC because in February of 16 [40:11] Ken then drove Grand wanted something to [40:13] get yeah he wanted something easier to [40:14] get in and out of got that that was his [40:16] last all right here here's one I'll give [40:18] you a little I'll give you a little [40:19] trivia of kenan's thing sure [40:22] 95 blank car he drove March of 16 May of [40:26] 16 from Uncle Tony what was Uncle Tony [40:29] driving a 95 what that he drove in May [40:32] of 16 cool car or not cool car it's [40:34] Uncle Tony man of course it's a cool car [40:37] Chevy impo SS no Uncle Tony I stand by [40:41] my answer Uncle Tony's got something [40:43] cooler than that yeah shout out to Uncle [40:46] Tony Dodge Viper [40:49] AR wow black with a gray interior wow [40:53] that is one of the alltime great Kon [40:55] things that I've ever seen incredible [40:57] yeah yeah what did you learn to drive [40:59] stick in oh what did I learn to drive [41:01] stick in it was uh my French teachers [41:03] 2001 toyot R 4 because what happened was [41:06] I had gotten a job at a Ferrari deal [41:07] Ferrari of Denver and I had prom told [41:10] them that I knew how to drive stick and [41:11] I didn't had never before done it when [41:13] they hired me I lied to to get the job [41:15] as one does sure and um to be clear [41:18] don't lie when you get jobs please well [41:21] it the means justif justif the mean uh [41:24] so so I had to learn I was I had told [41:26] them that on a Thursday and by Monday I [41:27] had to learn how to drive stick and so [41:30] my French teacher my high school French [41:31] teacher was the only person I knew who [41:33] had a manual car was a Toyota Rav 4 and [41:35] I tell you by the end of the weekend I I [41:37] did learn how to drive stick and I never [41:38] stalled the car at that Ferrari dealer [41:40] ever but yeah oh always comforting to [41:43] know that like they didn't like feror uh [41:45] F of Denver wasn't checking to make sure [41:46] they T good drive manual so we would [41:48] just roast in the clutches I can't speak [41:50] for all the other guys or whatever but [41:52] like I made it a goal to to not mess [41:57] yeah it was that was all I did that [41:58] weekend and I got it done and I was good [42:00] what year was that n yeah so most of the [42:03] Cs that I then wear yeah yeah that's [42:06] true a lot of tips a lot of tips and the [42:08] really nice stuff I mean I didn't drive [42:09] anyway you know I was a driving f50s [42:11] let's put it that way right but 355 [42:14] though um the c56 is c56 is at 27 Grand [42:20] anding deeply out of my budget let's see [42:22] let's see let's see 2 1 0 272 last [42:26] second gosh that's so unfortunately if I [42:29] were to buy this that would be the most [42:30] expensive car I've ever bought and I [42:31] can't do that right you're saving that [42:33] for something yeah it's not a c56 um sa [42:36] that for never IDE next question [42:38] Jonathan her heret writes in it says [42:40] Doug where is your old l322 Range Rover [42:42] now um I bought my Range Rover from [42:46] CarMax and then I exploited the warranty [42:48] and I got like $38,000 in warranty [42:50] payout for a $27,000 car if you've tried [42:53] to get a car max warranty since blame [42:55] him please so it's his fault it would [42:58] have happened anyway they would have [43:00] they would have started to run some [43:01] numbers and be like you know I don't [43:03] think we can afford this anymore cuz [43:05] when I bought that car Ken you'll never [43:06] believe [43:07] this they were getting 1 M's from the [43:11] BMW performance driving school and there [43:13] were there were like eight white 1M for [43:16] sale when I bought that Range Rover [43:18] nationally man there was an R8 there was [43:21] a I almost bought instead an A8L not a [43:24] W12 but they did have [43:26] sometimes um they had 760 liis like [43:29] CarMax was selling stuff stuff and V10 [43:33] m5s and m6's were common there was at [43:35] least a few for sale at CarMax at any [43:37] given moment back then this was 200 when [43:40] did I buy that car 11 13 so those those [43:42] are only four to seven-year-old cars wow [43:45] yeah and you get warranty on all if only [43:47] I know if only if only that would have [43:50] been so cool I remember seeing stick [43:52] feet 10 m5s but they were out of my [43:54] price range dang [43:56] I know that yeah that's a way to own a [43:59] v10f in Period like or not far off with [44:03] a warranty car warranty do yeah they [44:05] don't sell stuff like that anymore [44:06] they've really wised up yeah I'm sure [44:10] they I'm sure they heart attack they [44:13] were they were smart and you know what [44:14] the great irony was and even at the time [44:15] I thought it was a great irony they [44:16] never sold G wagons they still don't [44:18] makes no sense it's the most reliable of [44:19] all of those cars by far but they don't [44:22] they're like oh we don't sell specialty [44:24] Vehicles it's like well you don't make [44:25] money want to make money aren't you a [44:27] public company if I were an investor I'd [44:29] be upset [44:31] um one quick request all the biders on [44:33] the the C5 Z6 you don't have to wait [44:35] till literally the last second of bid [44:37] right just as a reminder folks right [44:41] we've had a lot of zero checking bids [44:44] here yeah the the most expensive cars at [44:46] Carmax now gle53 Land Cruiser c8s x5m [44:51] like the really really cool stuff has [44:52] gone away the v12s I think this is it [44:54] for 27750 277 [44:58] 27750 feels like 76 a lot and not enough [45:02] like it's a lot for a C5 yeah but it's a [45:04] low [45:05] mileage a color or some modifications [45:08] went no Reserve which always brings the [45:10] one plus he already figured out the [45:11] front plate thing right you know right [45:15] I'm living in Virginia and I don't have [45:16] to do that one last thing I gotta [45:20] do [45:22] um okay all right what what other [45:24] question do we have how about what other [45:25] cars want to talk about that are cool [45:27] this week sure sure well this one yeah [45:30] this NSX we have a 2005 NSX on the site [45:33] that's 18,500 miles it's the last year [45:36] production it's a manual yes this is it [45:39] like Yep this is this is the one um [45:42] final M year as you said final M year [45:44] it's not blue but it is this is like [45:46] this is a Wonder wonderful this black [45:48] looks so good uh and this this have to [45:50] do with anything a great color on they [45:52] were yellow they were red yeah but [45:53] Blue's like the most desirable color on [45:55] the car but regardless that that desable [45:57] color I I do think black works on I [45:59] think black looks yeah really great I [46:01] actually did a video on one of these [46:03] 0205 uh black not that long ago maybe a [46:06] year ago it was a higher mileage one but [46:08] it was so good to drive yep oh this car [46:12] is a special car and you know what's [46:13] funny when when these were new I [46:15] remember they couldn't sell them you [46:17] know they had been on sale at that point [46:18] even though they facelifted at NO2 they [46:20] had been on sale for 15 years it was [46:21] atrocious they were bolted to the [46:23] showroom floors but of course it's been [46:25] now almost 20 years since this car was [46:27] on the market and it's kind of gotten to [46:29] a point where they're all of them you'd [46:32] rather have the final one yep you know [46:34] with the with the updates that's just so [46:35] cool oh K why don't you buy this man oh [46:39] yeah I I love the NSX I got to drive [46:42] that uh really nice early one last year [46:45] and I it's hard to argue I of course [46:48] wish it made a little bit more power but [46:50] it's like The Styling is great the [46:52] handling is excellent everything is just [46:53] like feels very precise and high quality [46:56] and like I don't know I don't I'm [46:58] running out of like objectionable [47:00] reasons not to own one right especially [47:02] because you're looking for a sports car [47:03] that's cool and like iconic and reliable [47:06] yep and this is kind of that this is it [47:09] what do we think will happen to the NSX [47:10] market so there's right now BD is at [47:12] what 135 something is it really 135 135 [47:15] I suspect it's got five days to go and I [47:17] I suspect there's still to happen but [47:20] like where where do you think that the [47:21] market [47:22] goes yeah I know does this become a [47:24] $250,000 car sooner or later right what [47:26] what's the highest price one we sold [47:28] that 50,000 m one for 72 we sold some [47:30] new bodies 145 for for that yellow 27 [47:34] with similar mileage yellow yellow [47:36] that's a looking car that is look at [47:39] that interior oh my God look at that [47:40] interior who bought this man they made [47:44] yellow leather what was wild red leather [47:47] yellow leather red [47:49] yellow why did they do that I don't know [47:51] why they did that but man what a car but [47:52] yeah they I love it I would get the one [47:54] with the yellow I think it's cool as [47:55] hell but I would do it' be cool to do [47:57] silver on yellow or something blue on [47:58] yellow we we've sold a couple over sold [48:01] Bunch 100 this is the lowest mile one [48:03] but the ones with the facelift [48:05] headlights are always that's that's the [48:06] one I drove that 885 one the ones with [48:09] the facelift headlights are always um [48:11] they always bring more and they deserve [48:12] to it was like the end of the line it [48:13] was really really cool yep yeah but like [48:16] truly what do we think happens do they [48:18] become 200 300 400,000 probably they're [48:20] still getting modded and there's a lot [48:22] of tips so like at the end of the day [48:24] there's still there's still real value [48:26] here God this is such a cool car I don't [48:28] think it's going to ever go to 400 they [48:30] buil too many for it to be like yeah too [48:32] for too long and at the end of the day [48:33] it's still a Honda you know but well [48:35] yeah nice nice well done thank you at [48:39] its best it was 290 horsepower from the [48:41] fact I mean yeah but it's light and [48:43] balance it's all about balance what did [48:46] that car cost [48:47] new5 stick let's see I want to say like [48:50] almost almost 100 right that's N Low 90s [48:54] probably [48:56] yeah we'll we'll discuss next week but [48:58] like unfortunately do you make money on [49:00] it you think do we think that this [49:02] person if they were the first owner uh [49:04] from since [49:05] 2005 no where it ends up we'll see [49:09] no there there's been some inflation but [49:11] yeah no uh no you would not make money [49:15] on it no it's such a cool car though it [49:17] is it's the coolest yeah um okay what's [49:21] the cheapest NSX you can get Ken what's [49:22] the cheapest we sold NX hold that up [49:25] yeah the oh I think I remember and I [49:27] think we talked about this one got to [49:28] have been a tip right oh man that one's [49:31] an automatic yeah Automatic Auto Wheels [49:34] what's the what's the lowest [49:37] 35,9 also had some I think this was in [49:40] August of 20 before the market really [49:42] took off that's an auto can you filter [49:44] for man that manual won 52 525 525 but [49:48] that car had like 3 had a ton of 27,000 [49:51] miles yeah I love that though that is so [49:53] cool if you bought this car would we [49:55] talked about a lot on this like because [49:57] we did a show that day if you bought [49:58] this car I would love to know where it [49:59] is now like what's going on with it I'm [50:02] just curious it was cool again another [50:05] you know one-owner car I was touched to [50:07] have on the site but it looks so good in [50:09] red all right next question this one [50:11] comes from Levi Jud oh [50:15] thanks that Levi not at [50:18] you he says do you think the first gen [50:21] boxer is an underrated Porsche yes [50:24] definitely deeply definitely [50:26] unquestionably would you rather have a [50:28] 986 boxer or the 15,000 M Z3 that's [50:31] ending right now I'd rather have a [50:32] Boxster because it's Mid Engine and the [50:33] market reflects that this is a nice Z3 [50:35] though [50:37] legitimately if you're going to get a Z3 [50:39] this is the one it's a 2.8 with a stick [50:41] low miles California like this is the [50:43] one you want well the three or the M [50:45] yeah that's but still yeah Fair well [50:48] okay the biggest engine that it offered [50:50] at the time which was the 2.8 at that at [50:52] that point if you want to yeah if you [50:54] want a 9 clear headlights I know how [50:56] those headlights are clear got 18,000 [50:58] miles been sitting in a garage in [50:59] Southern California it's whole life I [51:01] have to say one it is not difficult to [51:04] find z3s with low mileage commonly they [51:07] were bought by people who have become [51:09] Boomers who are now like I bought this [51:11] car and I wanted to preserve this [51:13] special BMW but it turned out not to be [51:14] that special a lot of people bought it [51:15] for that purpose it'd be a cool [51:17] autocross car I don't get why more [51:18] people don't do that it's like a Miata [51:20] than this one's manual but we've had [51:22] hosted a bunch of low mile ones that are [51:23] Autos yeah which makes kind of speak [51:27] five speed wow yep yeah they all work [51:29] they all they didn't do a six speed and [51:31] even for the M they did only five speed [51:33] had a six it would be too close in [51:34] performance to the M3 right yeah [51:37] speaking of M3 can I talk about one [51:38] other car yeah can you go to that 04 M3 [51:40] convertible you have up yep oh wow [51:43] 20,000 mile I know this is a dream late [51:47] L production yeah red red like it's this [51:53] is if you want an E46 I'm 3 Convertible [51:55] here you go is this here in San Diego 9 [51:59] yeah nearby it's not in our Reserve I [52:01] can't it looks like maybe orang County [52:03] why don't you buy it it's not no Reserve [52:04] yeah but you can make it no reserve and [52:06] pick it up you could tell the guy hey [52:09] talk about fipo and a car just so [52:11] maintenance yeah there too too much car [52:13] for for fipo I've never driven a [52:15] convertible b46 M I'd like to I'm [52:17] curious how much Scuttle Shake both [52:21] um I don't know if I've ever driven a [52:23] convertible that's a good question I [52:24] don't think so it does look kind of [52:26] drove an E93 M3 once rented one on turo [52:28] here in San Diego actually yeah E93 M3 [52:30] is a good one top issues this a great [52:33] low miles STI really nice look at the [52:36] interior look so nice it looks like [52:37] Sam's interior after he spent all that [52:38] money to make it look like this but you [52:40] don't even have to has to yep yeah man [52:44] 20,000 miles wild yeah that's a really [52:47] nice E46 Al E46 M3 conver were not kept [52:51] that Ni no yeah surprising he no heinous [52:53] modifications it lasted well yeah rare [52:55] to see one in decent shape cool yeah all [52:58] right I'm sorry back we can can we can [52:59] the questions yeah I I do have another [53:02] good question for you and it is um oh no [53:07] this thing has repeated or something so [53:10] while you're looking that that CRX sold [53:11] for [53:14] $1,969 the the the the mon and higher [53:16] miles probably held back the price of [53:18] bit but sure but still still from MJ [53:21] Corp what car launch are you most [53:23] looking forward to this year [53:25] fipo fipo is the saint of new cars right [53:29] let me think about [53:30] that uh launch or reveal either I'll let [53:34] you have either all right I think the [53:37] rivan R2 which should come out in about [53:39] the next three weeks yeah will be [53:41] notable mostly because it'll I think [53:43] prove out for us whether rivan becomes a [53:45] real volume manufacturer yeah or or not [53:48] right I think there like the like make [53:49] or break they had the the r1s and r1t [53:52] that are incredibly popular but higher [53:54] priced higher end Vehicles larger the R2 [53:57] will be like can they move that market y [54:01] totally I'm excited for the ex90 the [54:04] Volvo SUV yeah um man it's G to be some [54:08] commonalities here uh the the M5 touring [54:10] which should directly come to the US yep [54:12] rumors are y will be [54:16] cool no the the the Toyota Land Cruiser [54:19] will what I was going to say Doug had [54:21] the the Lexus GX which is the same car [54:23] and looks pretty much identical weed um [54:26] and I Tru think that in San Diego see [54:29] new [54:31] Cruisers they're not going to sell them [54:33] they're going to be able they're going [54:34] to have that car is going to have [54:35] waiting it's be the C they won't be able [54:37] to build them yeah well yeah they're not [54:38] going to be able to get them out right [54:40] that's true but in San Diego it's the [54:42] land of four runners yep still is [54:44] despite the 4Runner being fundamentally [54:46] a when they come out 11 yeah a [54:49] 13-year-old car right uh so the think L [54:52] will truly be everywhere um which will [54:54] be exciting right they they just [54:57] released pricing yesterday for folks [54:58] that are interesting I was okay [55:00] so that Aston Vantage reminds me I was [55:03] really excited for the new Vantage but [55:04] then I've seen it and it looks the same [55:06] as the old one it looks it looks the [55:08] same I was excited for the moera Gran [55:10] Turismo looks the same um the new Land [55:13] Cruiser I'm really pumped for yeah BMW [55:15] station wagon new E-class I'm excited [55:17] for as an E-class Man true and there [55:19] there's a there'll be a new alterrain [55:21] yeah the Newbie class is at dealers [55:23] already for for some reason I spent half [55:25] an hour the other day watching a English [55:27] language video from a German magazine [55:30] about the E-class wagon S14 y great [55:33] video yep um so that that is exciting [55:37] but I I think that like the the [55:40] the EVS will be the real interesting [55:42] story of the year the the Honda this [55:44] boring Cannon I'm sorry the Honda [55:45] prologue is out sort of which is the [55:49] Chevy Blazer but Honda [55:51] version include that in our list of cars [55:53] for most exciting like I think that [55:55] that'll be interesting to see how that [55:56] does same with the Blazer I'll tell you [55:58] how it's going to do I'll tell you how [55:59] the Blazer's going to do poorly the [56:01] Blazer will do poorly the password or [56:03] whatever they call let me let me let me [56:04] give you a little hint based on uh early [56:07] uh predictions based on based on what's [56:08] already happened the Blazer in the [56:10] prologue this will be the last time that [56:12] General Motors and Honda work together [56:14] on a [56:15] car let let me put it this way I have a [56:18] suspicion Honda's going to be like boy [56:20] General Motors I can't believe that we [56:22] lent our name to this [56:23] vehicle [56:25] sadly for us the the the the prologue [56:28] version won't be available in the same [56:30] configurations that the Blazer will [56:31] because the Blazer will be the only car [56:33] that we can all think of except for a [56:34] four it's surprising to me that the [56:35] prologue isn't going to be available [56:36] same configur as the Blazer considering [56:38] the Blazer is available in front-wheel [56:39] drive all-wheel drive or rear wheeel [56:41] drive correct so H how will they offer [56:43] the prologue sidewheel drive and and and [56:46] let me ask you this as a followup will [56:47] that actually make it good because well [56:51] you know um correct me wrong it's just [56:53] rear whe drive and all-wheel drive only [56:55] the prologue the oh correct you you're I [56:57] haven't done a lot of research into the [56:58] prologue all right fair enough and the [57:00] reason for that is because it's bad yeah [57:04] um the Lucid gravity will be oh yeah [57:07] interesting is but really the the the I [57:09] think the kind of mainstream is electric [57:12] cars are what's going to be most [57:13] interesting car launch I am least [57:15] excited for I think is the [57:17] prologue is the Blazer being sold or do [57:19] they have for they haven't I think [57:23] technically they've sold a couple but [57:25] GM employees who are now going to return [57:28] it catch was on fire what's the Lotus [57:30] SUV called the Maya yeah another one I'm [57:34] noted what is that called the Electra [57:37] right elri yeah that'll be [57:41] interesting Ken can you name any new [57:44] cars this year that you are excited or [57:45] not excited for I mean the M5 touring if [57:48] that does actually happen to be the one [57:50] obviously for do you know what the [57:52] prologue is or the Blazer EV I don't [57:54] know most of the word imagine something [57:57] bad okay I'm picturing it the the the I5 [58:00] touring also interesting excited for the [58:01] I5 sure if it will come to the stat very [58:03] sad the I5 right they've said that the [58:05] M5 right the wagon we know the wagon [58:08] will it will I'm what else is coming out [58:11] oh there's a lot of good stuff oh the of [58:13] course I can't believe we haven't talked [58:14] about it the Hyundai Santa Fe can you [58:16] pull dude I am P for the Hundai Santa [58:18] Santa Fe they're airing commercials it's [58:20] like it's ad dealer I begged Hyundai [58:22] really is it I mean they're they're [58:23] airing commercials like I got to get me [58:26] one of these4 though to review oh well [58:28] no actually it turns out that it's the [58:29] current M so you're good you're kidding [58:31] they're not going to call it a 23 no no [58:32] no but it's all that popped up cuz we're [58:34] in 2024 now any of these photos is [58:37] actually fine that's that's the car [58:39] that's a Hyundai s that's like $35,000 [58:41] car please go to a photo of the back the [58:44] back's insane the back is if you were if [58:46] you were excited by the side profile [58:48] you'll be completely unexcited by the [58:50] wow that is [58:52] blocky wait but can I tell you something [58:55] um this Hyundai Santa Fe there is a van [58:59] you know about this van the staria look [59:01] it up yeah you know about this but I was [59:03] actually in my head this goes to Sans [59:05] young over how I retail that brand the [59:08] they had a car that look idal the song [59:10] oh yeah they kind of did not the rodus [59:12] the other one the other one yeah there [59:13] was the corando and there was the [59:17] muso that's all true look up look up [59:20] Hyundai um um [59:23] staria this will make you happy and it [59:25] will make you so sad that it's not being [59:27] sold here in the United States look at [59:29] this thing oh my God even Ken likes it [59:31] and he doesn't like any new cars look at [59:33] that that's kind of cool so cool what [59:36] what else is coming out this isn't that [59:38] cool meanwhile the ID buzz by the on the [59:40] subject of the ID Buzz is coming this [59:42] year you're wrong it's cool as hell [59:44] you're so wrong they had this that Super [59:46] Bowl commercial for it did they yeah I [59:49] love this we watch Super Bowl together [59:52] yeah but just plus cut out for most [59:56] of me that isn't cool look at that thing [59:58] that that is so cool far [60:02] go are there any super cars coming out [60:04] this year oh yeah besides the Maserati [60:07] Grand fro we got the RTO coming out the [60:10] only you would consider the Maserati [60:12] Grand a super I did that said that [60:15] trying to over that move on but ev9 [60:18] already out you know what you know [60:19] what's coming out in theory is thatch [60:21] you know what's coming out in theory is [60:22] that giant Cadillac the celestial [60:25] right you think that's real or are they [60:26] just screwing with us I mean they said [60:28] they're making the Blazer is is GM's [60:31] Pinnacle EV and they that hasn't come [60:33] out so actually the um Silverado EV I'm [60:36] excited for it is technically on sale I [60:38] haven't seen one which doesn't bode well [60:40] because I drive around and I see a model [60:41] 3 like 78 times before I get over there [60:45] are you excited about the ram EV which [60:46] is kind of a hybrid really I'm not [60:48] excited about that what else is coming [60:49] out it's dop Ken tell us what else is [60:51] coming out I you're asking the wrong the [60:52] new Santa Fe is definitely a good one [60:55] uh trying to think of anything I love [60:57] all new cars folks right fipo I'm just [61:00] interested in the car market new cars [61:03] yeah not for the car itself just for the [61:05] impact on the market yeah yeah there's [61:06] not much else that like Tesla Roadster [61:09] someday cyber truck's finally coming out [61:10] new new smaller pole Stars we really [61:12] have gone on a tangent on this but I'm [61:13] trying to think about it too um while we [61:15] go on the tent can you tell the I'm not [61:19] excited about that because it's clearly [61:21] a refresh not a New Generation Um kenon [61:23] can we talk about that5 911 Target 4S [61:25] just you can talk about that while Doug [61:27] and I talk about [61:28] new yeah okay um so yeah so sapphire [61:32] blue metallic which is a lovely color on [61:34] the fors I the Target in general is I [61:37] think an often underappreciated model [61:39] because it is definitely the most [61:40] stylish um you know it's just that that [61:43] roll hoop is is excellent this one is [61:45] very nicely optioned it is pdk um but [61:49] it's just nice to see when that's not [61:50] white or silver or black it's like an [61:53] actual color I blue sapphire one of my [61:54] favorite colors on any modern Porsche um [61:58] but this one in particular uh also has [62:01] 25,000 miles on it so it's like been [62:02] driven but yeah I just that's another [62:06] thing I'm running out of reasons not to [62:07] have a Porsche right yeah [62:10] eventually have that problem I know they [62:13] realize Porsche is always the answer [62:17] Pata Pata Pata yep nice um here's a [62:22] question from uh MJ Rich 18 again asked [62:24] several of the questions uh Doug do you [62:27] still think Infinity will fail haven't [62:29] they yeah I mean yeah haven't they [62:31] haven't they already all right name any [62:33] current Infinity oh that's a great one [62:36] no I gu no no Ju Just name one they sell [62:40] I don't know there's probably a Q and an [62:41] X they sell six cars they sell they sell [62:45] I'm not far off on six by the way they [62:47] only sell five cars which is astonishing [62:50] I can name all of them but I won't count [62:51] to name one yeah I won't count name do [62:53] it let's see no I want you to name one [62:55] for I can't I I don't know anything the [62:57] Q60 is there that is not on the market [63:00] he's over here bragging the first thing [63:03] he comes up with the Q50 is that the Q50 [63:05] the Q60 was the G37 for a year well the [63:08] Q60 no that was the q40 believe or not [63:11] what is the the Q was the coupe but I [63:13] guess that's gone s okay fine the Q so [63:16] there's no more G37 coupe it's gone the [63:18] Q50 sedan Q50 sedan's the only Q50 it's [63:20] the only car they make the qx30 no [63:23] that's gone what the qx30 lasted like [63:26] one model year before the market roundly [63:28] decided that it was a complete piece of [63:29] trash the GLA was redesigned which is [63:32] what it was the GLA was redesigned qx3 [63:34] was and then the qx30 went away handing [63:37] over its title of trashiest trash trash [63:40] to Chevy Blazer EV you go QX60 what a [63:44] baton which is the trash Pathfinder yeah [63:48] QX60 is qx50 yeah the qx40 which is the [63:52] coup version of the Q gone version of [63:54] the qx50 is called the 55 sorry the QX80 [63:57] yep that's it all right where are all [64:00] these C I [64:01] mean there was a QX70 which was the old [64:04] FX yes gone yeah I knew that was gone so [64:06] the question is did Infinity fail will [64:08] do I still think Infinity is going to [64:09] fail I mean I'm looking at their lineup [64:10] here yeah I think they have failed I [64:12] think that if this is all they've got to [64:13] deliver us then as a brand it's kind of [64:16] over can I ask you an important question [64:17] they might continue like Mitsubishi has [64:18] for the last 20 years but like it's [64:20] failed what what is the best lease deal [64:22] that they adverti cuz it's got to be [64:23] under 300 a month uh right [64:27] now if you go into a dealership and get [64:30] a [64:31] qx55 they will pay you $75 a [64:36] month and yet see no Q5 on the road says [64:39] a lot if you go and get a QX80 they'll [64:42] buy you dinner pull up a photo of a qx55 [64:44] cuz you don't know what this is and [64:46] honestly nobody in our audience knows [64:47] what a QX one time I saw on the road [64:50] qx55 okay one time I saw one on the road [64:52] yep that's my whole story Sor it was [64:54] quite an experience yep it is a onetime [64:56] situation [64:57] yeah oh incredibly odd engine too by the [65:01] way what what power trads in it it it's [65:04] they did something weird I don't [65:05] remember what it was I read a qx50 [65:07] review when it came out years ago it was [65:10] something legitimately kind of [65:11] interesting was legitim I'll tell you it [65:15] says on the website powertrain without [65:17] compromise but it does not LT the power [65:19] TR it's a it's a in like let's hearting [65:23] uncompromised engine I will determine if [65:26] it's interesting I will determine if [65:27] it's interesting I'll send you an [65:28] article later um will read it a few [65:31] minutes left and we do have to talk [65:32] about that Mitsubishi lcer Evolution [65:34] speaking of mitsub it's a 2 turbo 4 [65:37] cylinder it's a 2 lit turbo four [65:39] cylinder 270 it has something like [65:42] engineering cool about it kin driver [65:45] rates it among the top compact luxury [65:47] SUVs car driver rates at [65:50] 18th well there there's about 300 [65:53] different ones so [65:54] anyway focusing on the Mitsubishi this [65:56] is from when Mitsubishi was a legit okay [65:59] brand these cars are legit even I have [66:02] can you name any other mitubishi that [66:03] Mitsubishi sold in 2006 I'm sure they're [66:05] making the eclipse at that time but they [66:07] were but like [66:09] this this is a serious car this is a [66:11] very serious car can you name any other [66:13] no I don't care about them I don't I I [66:15] do want to talk about this car this is [66:17] this is the finest Lancer EV Evo in the [66:19] world okay so the Lancer Evo came to the [66:20] Lancer Evo went through seven supposed [66:22] Generations really it was minor face [66:24] over the years more or less until the [66:26] seventh one wasn't wasn't soier but the [66:28] eighth one was the eight and the nine [66:29] are the coolest of the two the 10 was [66:31] cool but the eight the nine feel like [66:33] the old school Evo this is a nine and it [66:36] looks so cool and it has like no miles [66:39] and very few mods it has what 20 30,000 [66:42] that if you want [66:44] the it has 11,000 miles if you want the [66:48] best EVO and it's an RS this look at [66:49] that look at that blanking plate for the [66:51] stereo that is how you live that is how [66:54] you live cuz you got that that those [66:56] weight reductions are important and you [66:57] remove the stereo if you're a real [66:58] performance guy you don't have a stereo [67:00] you got a shifter that looks like a [67:02] baseball and you got tarmat gravel snow [67:05] next to your Tac this is a real car God [67:08] I love this thing this is so cool when [67:10] it came in I was like I kind of want it [67:11] because it's the last unmodded Evo but [67:13] with only 11,000 miles you could never [67:14] drive it by the way kenon can you go [67:16] actually to the door panel just like the [67:17] CRX I there was something that I noticed [67:19] that might be interesting let me see [67:21] here I know why you're look at all this [67:22] trunk carpeting removed another front [67:24] door panel look at that that is cool [67:26] that's pretty serious this is an RS this [67:28] thing is stripped down they got nothing [67:30] back there they don't need anything this [67:31] car was went [67:34] to look at that we got warnings on the [67:36] door I still have them wow also manual [67:38] windows yeah the fact that they still [67:40] have those warnings there is laughable [67:42] also do you think that they left the [67:43] speakers in the door they removed the [67:45] radio the [67:47] stereo speaker great leave the actual no [67:51] I bet there's no speaker behind it it's [67:52] just the Great it's great a lot of those [67:54] cars with the radio delete are like kind [67:56] of pre-wed for a radio put them back in [67:58] I do like the oh look at that blinking [68:00] plate this is such a this is the S2000 [68:02] CR that Kenan reviewed the Evo version [68:05] right but let's be honest the Lancer [68:07] interior this is a Lancer the Lancer [68:09] didn't have a great interior and it's [68:10] okay that that's not the point it was a [68:13] rally [68:14] breed this is Tru cool what the cool cuz [68:19] it only has a few but what are they see [68:21] oh different Wheels a rear wheels from [68:24] an MR and that's it and a different [68:25] bumper great the wing is De installed [68:28] from new yeah different bumper and then [68:30] intercooler couplers K of knows about [68:31] those y you of course you have to do [68:34] those man so cool got to throw on an [68:35] intercooler coupler or twoo oh my God [68:37] there's a million more questions okay [68:38] we're going to answer three more three [68:41] more three more and then we're going to [68:42] cut our podcast forever or whatever this [68:45] is and not oh someone said I never told [68:47] you where the CarX rain D is now yes my [68:49] bad it's in net I I gave it to a friend [68:51] of mine who lives on net and he drives [68:52] it to this day and toes with it um okay [68:56] three questions three questions from [68:58] David R when do you think the [68:59] Lamborghini Aventador will start going [69:01] up in [69:02] value never yep correct very very very [69:06] long there are some variants that have a [69:08] shot well if you add up every single [69:13] mura Kos Diablo and Merc Lago all [69:18] together it still doesn't equal the [69:20] total number of Aventadors that they [69:22] manufactured so it will never go up in [69:24] value that's not true it someday will [69:26] but it's not that cool and only a couple [69:29] of special versions might have a shot [69:30] and even then there's a lot of them I [69:32] see sdjs like frequently yeah yeah I [69:35] mean that's part of where we live I [69:37] think that a lot of them live out there [69:38] but still yeah you don't see them [69:40] frequently I see I see way more commonly [69:44] than the other way more and one of our [69:46] friends has a mercy and I'm looking at [69:48] AOS right now and I still see more [69:49] Aventadors I still see more Aventadors [69:52] there's 20 Aventadors out outside we [69:54] walk outside there's something to it [69:56] yeah the really nice ones long term I'm [69:58] sure like very low mileage preser Ones [70:00] Will and then I'm sure like the SV and [70:02] maybe the svj in those cars but like [70:05] yeah I mean it's a it was a big deal for [70:07] Lamborghini but I agree yeah take a long [70:09] time good for Lamborghini a bu and [70:12] they're just that many mid-engine crazy [70:14] V Lambos out there driving around is [70:16] pretty cool yeah okay um yeah I I think [70:20] that eventually it will but but you know [70:24] it won't yet it'll be a long while um [70:27] okay next [70:30] question um oh this is an interesting [70:32] one from Marty do you consider bid price [70:34] purchase price or shipped plus purchase [70:36] price to best reflect the market price [70:38] for cars and bids auctions when I think [70:40] of it I think of it as just our sold [70:42] price which doesn't include our fee I [70:44] definitely don't include shipping [70:45] because it's not always a given that the [70:47] car has to has to be shipped yeah and [70:49] you can't even figure that out anyway [70:50] and right I gen yeah I generally look at [70:53] yeah I think like the I mean the fee is [70:55] also capped at a certain point so I [70:57] don't really factor that in as much I [70:58] generally look at what the car is sold [71:00] for is what I'm considering what about [71:01] r&ms like do you think of that as the [71:03] market value on that car with with [71:06] incredibly few exceptions yeah yeah yeah [71:09] I think so too yeah people are like oh [71:12] it's not worth that it's worth more the [71:14] BS weren't in the room it's like well [71:15] maybe it's because the car has seven [71:17] accidents on the car right there also [71:19] there are a lot of bidder active biders [71:21] on cars and bids and we Market a lot of [71:24] so yeah if that's what the if the market [71:26] speaks the market speaks that's what it [71:28] thinks the cars are it's the beauty of [71:30] the auction sites is the market tells [71:31] you what they think the car is worth [71:33] right and some people don't want to [71:34] believe that or believe that there was [71:35] some sort of flaw that day or whatever I [71:37] just I don't really think it quite like [71:39] that generally and and I do some there [71:41] are cars where like and owners where [71:45] they're willing to wait three years to [71:46] find the right buyer yeah but they're [71:48] waiting three years to find the right [71:49] buyer yeah yeah right I mean that's the [71:51] thing I that's exactly right I I some [71:53] people are like well I I I didn't sell [71:55] it with you guys and I made more later [71:57] how long it take 18 months well yeah but [71:59] you had to you had to ensure it and fuel [72:01] it and maintain it for all that time and [72:03] you happen to find the one person that [72:04] was not aware of the market it's not [72:05] aware of the market right you sold it to [72:08] the loone sucker out there yeah um I [72:11] truly think that our results are market [72:13] value and I don't include the bid the [72:16] the buyer fee either although there are [72:17] a couple sites if you're careful out [72:19] there that do so just note that oh [72:22] interesting well there's some sites that [72:25] don't show past past auctions if they [72:28] didn't card it sell which I think is a [72:30] total lack of transparency that is [72:32] totally not acceptable but we'll move on [72:34] yep um can you go to newly listed there [72:35] might be one card that I want talk about [72:36] but I'm not sure wait we have two more [72:38] questions one is I continually get asked [72:40] every week from the same person what is [72:42] your opinion of the Volvo V60 T8 pstar [72:44] engineered I've decided I'm not going to [72:46] answer that question just to screw with [72:47] that [72:51] person okay next question can I answer [72:53] it no no we're we're specifically not [72:56] gonna answer the question just to screw [72:58] it with this person Jun Quay I'm trying [73:02] sorry it's not gonna happen Kenan the [73:05] last question is for you okay is Kenan [73:08] the world's oldest 28y old uh that ask [73:12] your question very possibly from SE hubs [73:15] I have a number of friends who are my [73:16] who are similar to me in like in how we [73:19] feel about things in general but maybe I [73:22] I would I've always thought am a a [73:24] 70-year-old trapped in the body of a [73:26] 28-year-old um and so that's kind of [73:28] unfortunately for Kenan there was [73:29] somebody that is just like him that was [73:31] born on January 1 and [73:34] therefore [73:36] well are so that answers that question [73:39] kenon is in fact yeah I'm happy to have [73:41] that title I guess aren't you aren't you [73:45] I'm just who I am yeah I'm just living [73:47] my life all right one pedantic measure [73:50] at a time fipo do you have any other um [73:53] things to [73:55] say no I think we'll see you next week [73:58] on what are we calling this Carson bid [74:00] live is that what what and bids okay [74:04] kenon any passing thoughts for us no [74:06] waves no [74:07] not uh no not really um I will not be [74:11] here will not be here next week or the [74:13] week there after we've only done this [74:14] for a little bit but we have run out of [74:16] content I'm going to be at Island very [74:19] excited for that next week you're not [74:20] going to be here next week what are we [74:21] going to do I don't know we have my [74:23] friend Nick he's going to come he's [74:24] insane it'll be great I will be a mil [74:27] very excited for that love going every [74:28] year so are you going to create any [74:29] content for us while there yeah yeah I [74:31] will be there if if you see me do come [74:33] up and say hello but I I'll will be [74:34] there for only do good stuff yeah yeah I [74:36] won't there's a lot of good stuff Diablo [74:38] sd30 or better oh yeah it should be [74:40] doable should be doable should be [74:44] doable goodbye everyone [74:50] goodbye