[0:00] hello youtube i see you've come here to [0:01] build a community well you've come to [0:03] the right place my name is cabal i am a [0:06] horror of youtuber here on twitch.tv i [0:09] deal on all things spectacularly spooky [0:10] to include content creation in the past [0:13] year i've been able to build up a [0:14] community from next to nothing to what [0:18] it is today thriving and full of life [0:20] and definitely not trapped in the [0:22] basement if you're curious on how to [0:23] build your community well today we're [0:25] going to have a talk and i'm going to [0:27] explain to you the steps that you can go [0:28] through to build your community as a [0:30] streamer and the ways that you want to [0:32] bring people into it and use the various [0:34] platforms at your disposal to do so and [0:38] there's a lot of things that go into [0:39] building a community a lot of things [0:41] that don't seem very intuitive at the [0:42] moment a lot of people when they are [0:44] like man i want to be a streamer i want [0:47] to build a community i want to you know [0:48] have people come and you know interact [0:50] with me and watch my content everything [0:52] like that it's like what do i do it's [0:54] like i just go live on twitch right [0:56] wrong sorry to burst your bubble the [0:59] days of go live get big on twitch or [1:00] long dead and that's just not something [1:02] that happens anymore today it's all [1:03] about syndication syndication [1:05] syndication syndication if you don't [1:07] know what syndication is basically what [1:08] you're going to be doing is you're going [1:09] to be taking your content you're gonna [1:11] be putting it on as many platforms as [1:13] possible and tailoring it to those [1:15] platforms for example if you're going to [1:16] be on twitter maybe you want to put [1:18] funny clips on there maybe you want to [1:19] put you know like little tutorials on [1:21] there something that's going to you know [1:22] have somebody want to interact with it [1:25] if you're on tick-tock maybe you want to [1:26] do something that's a bit more memey [1:28] maybe you want to do something that's a [1:29] bit more of a trend you can also do [1:31] clips on there as well youtube you can [1:32] do what i'm doing right now produce a [1:34] video put it on youtube you might have [1:36] to edit it down yourself but hey guess [1:38] what it's good practice and the reason i [1:40] talk about these things is because [1:43] utilizing all the tools at your disposal [1:45] is what you're going to need to do to [1:46] build your community when you're [1:48] starting off nobody's going to want to [1:49] watch your content nobody's is going to [1:51] actually you know care at all because [1:52] that's the way we all sought out [1:54] everybody starts out from nothing with [1:55] content and it's up to us as the content [1:57] creator to build ourselves up but cab [1:59] that sounds hard that's because it is [2:01] [Laughter] [2:04] but it's not impossible and that's what [2:06] this talk today is going to be about [2:07] about giving you the tools to build that [2:09] community that's going to interact with [2:10] your things on the various platforms and [2:12] give you the ability to grow as a [2:14] content creator which we're actually [2:15] going to talk about in another youtube [2:17] video you know canvas is high just like [2:18] any business it starts from zero [2:20] absolutely correct chad [2:22] you may be thinking okay well you know i [2:24] want to build a community i want to go [2:26] out there and i want to be known how do [2:28] i get started i'm going to tell you [2:29] right off which is not your answer more [2:31] than likely what you're going to want to [2:32] do starting off is yeah you want to be a [2:34] streamer try youtube first i'll use [2:36] myself as an example so when i started [2:38] out with content creation did i start [2:40] out streaming [2:41] no i actually started out making youtube [2:43] let's play videos and yeah i've since [2:45] moved past that content but one of the [2:47] things it taught me was to one be the [2:49] sole source of conversation like right [2:51] now we have notifications turned off i'm [2:53] not looking at chat you know i'm [2:54] actually just going off on tangent [2:56] that's not something i'm naturally able [2:57] to do it's something i learned over time [2:59] it's something that you can learn over [3:02] time not only that but when you produce [3:03] content on youtube and things like that [3:05] you get used to streaming to nobody [3:07] because guess what you're not streaming [3:08] to anybody you're recording things and [3:10] that's going to pay dividends in the [3:11] long run it's going to allow you to [3:13] improv it's going to allow you to be [3:14] able to tell stories it's going to allow [3:16] you to be the sole source of [3:17] conversation which when you're starting [3:18] out with streaming you're going to need [3:20] not only that but when you produce [3:22] youtube content and you put it on [3:24] youtube you are at that point in time [3:26] using their machine learning using their [3:28] algorithm to reach people that you're [3:30] really not going to be able to reach on [3:31] twitch otherwise when you're doing [3:33] things like content you want to use [3:36] passive discovery platforms like youtube [3:38] like tick tock because on platforms like [3:40] twitch when you're live you're only ever [3:43] going to be discoverable when you're [3:44] live that's when you're going to be [3:46] popping up in people's recommended it's [3:47] when you're going to be popping up in [3:48] people's feeds go ahead and use tools [3:50] that are available to you it may be like [3:52] cab i don't like tick tock well i'm [3:54] sorry you're just going to have to get [3:55] over it that's one of the tools [3:57] available it's what other people are [3:58] using to make themselves discoverable as [4:00] well if you want to play if you want to [4:02] win the game you have to play it use all [4:05] the pieces on your chessboard exactly [4:07] and so you know on that topic on talk [4:08] about you know using the passage [4:10] discovery of these different platforms [4:12] one of the things we need to talk about [4:13] is we need to talk about funnels because [4:15] the concept of funnels as a business you [4:17] know as marketing you know as strategy [4:19] is [4:20] integral to building a community even as [4:22] a content creator like it's not a [4:24] foreign concept for you know a lot of [4:25] content creators kind of dive into [4:27] marketing um and this is something i've [4:28] actually learned you know friends that [4:30] are professional marketers or you know [4:31] professional we got you know they have [4:33] history as being you know community [4:36] leaders for very very large communities [4:38] or even like entire studios what the [4:40] heck is a funnel i'll go ahead and tell [4:42] you what a funnel is a funnel is [4:43] essentially how you're going to get [4:45] people into your community and how [4:47] you're going to filter them into the [4:48] community so you have people that are [4:50] actually like dedicated participating in [4:52] it everything like that when we're [4:54] looking at funnels we're going to be [4:55] looking at the top and we're going to be [4:56] looking at the bottom what is the top of [4:58] the funnel the top of the funnel is [4:59] going to be your things like youtube [5:01] like tick tock these massive platforms [5:04] with innate discoverability where you're [5:06] going to be posting your content and [5:07] people can find you whenever it's going [5:09] to be things that you know people will [5:10] be able to just stumble across and [5:12] they'll be like this person looks nifty [5:14] and then they'll be able to follow links [5:15] or other such things to the second part [5:18] of your funnel the second part of your [5:19] funnel is going to be things like your [5:21] twitch like your twitter and you may [5:23] think to yourself well wait a second no [5:25] like i want people to come to my twitch [5:27] that that is that's the bottom of my [5:29] funnel that's my destination no no no no [5:31] no you're missing out on something very [5:33] very important you see when you're on [5:35] twitter when you're on twitch things [5:36] like that you can do things that are [5:38] called ctas what is a cta a cta is a [5:42] call to action called actions are [5:45] essentially like hey chat type in [5:47] exclamation mark discord and it will pop [5:49] up in the chat and you can go click on [5:51] that link and join the discord just like [5:53] that when you're using that ability as a [5:55] mute as a community leader uh this [5:57] allows you know to direct people to [5:58] things like your youtube or you know [6:00] direct people to things like your [6:02] discord speaking of discord though [6:04] that's the bottom of your funnel and [6:06] maybe like the cab i don't really want [6:08] like why why would i have a discord i'll [6:10] tell you why you have discord because [6:11] the discord is the bottom of your funnel [6:13] you see all these platforms [6:15] youtube tick tock twitch [6:18] twitter [6:19] instagram everything like that these are [6:21] all platforms that rely on algorithms [6:23] for people to see your things for people [6:26] to know that you're going live for [6:28] people to know you know how they can and [6:31] you're like when they can interact with [6:32] you and like oftentimes can really only [6:34] interact with you uh on like a like a [6:38] non-live basis with the exception of [6:40] twitch and because twitch is a live [6:41] experience discord seems like a lot to [6:43] manage or yeah no it absolutely is uh [6:46] but that's part of the reason you want [6:47] to stop building your community you want [6:49] to find the people within the community [6:51] that you really you know you really work [6:53] well with you know that are actually [6:55] folks that contribute to it you know [6:57] that are really into it and you know are [7:00] about your content and about you as a [7:02] creator um and you want to find those [7:05] leaders within the community and those [7:07] are the people that can help you you [7:08] know help you build that community help [7:10] you manage that community um [7:13] ultimately it's going to be up to each [7:14] and every individual to choose you know [7:16] like what their team their mob team you [7:17] know uh whoever is uh but that it's also [7:21] a topic for another video why do we want [7:22] to get people into the discord well [7:24] discord basically serves as a home base [7:27] for your community when you have the [7:28] discord you're not relying on algorithms [7:31] you're not relying on the whims of other [7:32] platforms you're not relying on anything [7:34] like that the people that get in your [7:36] discord that join your discord are more [7:38] likely than not going to be some of the [7:39] most loyal of your viewers the most [7:41] loyal of your community and they're [7:43] going to be the people that want to [7:44] genuinely interact with you as a creator [7:46] and yeah you may be busy because content [7:48] creation is a lot of work but having [7:50] access to those people being able to [7:52] communicate them communicate with them [7:54] on a one-on-one basis that is insanely [7:56] valuable as a content creator and that [7:58] is the foundation of your community [8:01] being able to communicate it being able [8:03] to interact with it and not having to [8:05] worry about oh is twitter going to push [8:07] this tweet out and anybody going to see [8:08] it you know oh is anybody going to [8:10] wonder about oh when does this youtube [8:12] video go live no all those things you [8:14] don't have to worry about on discord [8:15] because you have a handy little tool [8:16] called at everyone side note please use [8:20] it sparingly because if you're just [8:22] constantly at everyone in people will [8:24] mute it for example [8:26] we have my discord we have over a [8:28] thousand members in this discord it will [8:30] actually show me when i go to at [8:32] everyone how many people are going to be [8:33] receiving this message for me with the [8:35] size of my discord it's only about 600 [8:37] people why because people hate getting [8:39] pinged but yeah you know when you have [8:41] that ability to [8:43] you know talk to your community to alert [8:45] them when you have new content coming [8:46] out you're going to have in higher [8:48] engagement rates one of the things [8:49] you're going to be looking at with a lot [8:50] of platforms is because they run off of [8:52] algorithms the initial going live of a [8:55] video or piece of content or something [8:57] like that the initial engagement that [8:59] you're going to get on that is going to [9:00] be integral to how far it goes in the [9:03] long term for example when we put out a [9:05] youtube video hit on the youtube i go [9:07] into the discord and i'm just like hey [9:09] we have this youtube video that has gone [9:10] live and what do people do they go and [9:12] they click on it they go and they watch [9:14] it also another strategy that i use is [9:16] whenever we put out a youtube video [9:18] oftentimes instead of raiding into [9:20] somebody off of twitch i'll be like hey [9:23] we have a youtube video that has just [9:25] gone live because i will keep the video [9:26] unlisted until i'm about to end stream i [9:29] will then list the youtube video it goes [9:32] live and i'm like hey here's the youtube [9:34] link go check out this video we just put [9:35] out that in turn boosts it in the [9:38] initial algorithm which will then send [9:39] it out to more people and more people [9:40] will be able to see it more people will [9:42] be able to watch it more people will be [9:43] able to enjoy it you know and like it [9:45] comment on it and everything like that [9:46] it essentially it feeds the algorithm in [9:48] a positive way that is going to promote [9:49] your content to more people which [9:51] ultimately as a creator that's what you [9:53] want because when your content is [9:55] promoted your content is going to be [9:56] seen by more people when it's seen by [9:58] more people you're more than likely [9:59] going to have more people following [10:01] those links checking out your different [10:03] platforms and ultimately some of them [10:06] will filter into becoming community [10:07] members i made that mistake of adding [10:09] everyone every time i'm in a small [10:10] update unfortunately cap i mean like hey [10:12] it happened at the end of the day none [10:13] of us really know what we're doing like [10:15] it's about gaining the experience it's [10:17] about you know uh figuring out what you [10:19] want to do with content and you know [10:21] like learning and that's what these [10:22] entire videos about are just learning [10:24] but cab how do we moderate discord and [10:26] twitch how do we get moderators yet [10:28] again that's what i was talking about [10:29] earlier you're going to look for those [10:30] individuals that are very active within [10:32] community but they're also you know [10:34] trusted and and you know very [10:38] i guess you could say moderate members [10:40] of the community it's people that are [10:41] going to interact but they often [10:42] interact with an even hand uh my me [10:45] personally when i go and i look for [10:46] moderators i look for people that often [10:48] are like yeah i don't want to be a mod [10:50] and you know i'll talk to them about [10:51] them i'll talk to them about it i'll get [10:53] a feel for them and you know see if i [10:55] think they're going to be a good fit [10:56] oftentimes one of the things i look for [10:57] is like people just like yeah i don't [10:59] want to be mod but i love this community [11:01] i love this you know entire thing that [11:03] we have and i want to help make it [11:05] better because one of the things you're [11:06] going to be having to deal with is you [11:07] know there are people that i want quote [11:09] unquote authority you know within a [11:11] community and those people no get them [11:14] out so you know with access to all the [11:16] people in your community in your discord [11:18] that is going to be the foundation of [11:20] your community and yeah it's going to [11:21] start off slow you're not going to have [11:23] a lot of people one of the things i want [11:26] you as a content creator to understand [11:28] is that yes in the beginning you're [11:30] probably going to be interacting a lot [11:31] on the discord but as you get busier you [11:33] know as you grow as a creator oftentimes [11:36] it can be hard to continue to be you [11:38] know active especially in voice calls [11:40] like for example i'll sometimes join in [11:42] voice calls in my discord and we'll have [11:44] like maybe 20 sometimes 30 people join [11:47] into a discord call it can get chaotic [11:49] it can really wear on you especially [11:51] when you're already giving so much of [11:53] yourself as a creator you know to the [11:55] community through your content through [11:56] videos you know uh through answering [11:58] questions it can be draining and that's [12:00] okay the people that are there for you [12:03] and really enjoy your content they will [12:05] understand all right it's not something [12:07] that you have to stress about like yeah [12:09] some people will come in maybe some [12:10] people will be weird chimp maybe some [12:12] people will be a little monkey ass it [12:14] happens all right but at the end of the [12:16] day that's your community you moderate [12:18] it and you need to make it a place that [12:20] is going to be comfortable for you [12:21] because it's not comfortable for you [12:23] you're not going to have a good time and [12:25] if you're not having a good time you're [12:26] not going to be able to produce the best [12:28] content that you can and you're not [12:29] going to be able to make the best [12:30] community that you can and that at the [12:32] end of the day should be your objective [12:34] make the best community that you can all [12:36] right so now we're going gonna have a [12:37] bit of a q a question from chad uh we've [12:39] got them live here you know people have [12:40] questions about building community about [12:42] uh things like that and so we're gonna [12:44] go ahead we're gonna answer these so [12:45] we've got a question from judo kami is [12:47] being consistent helpful in growing your [12:49] channel yes yes consistency is actually [12:53] really key to in my opinion growing your [12:55] channel growing your community things [12:56] like that analogy i like to use is the [12:58] concept of a movie theater content and [13:00] like you know your channel your content [13:02] things like that especially with [13:03] streaming it's kind of like movie [13:05] theater are you going to go to a movie [13:07] theater that doesn't have times posted [13:09] that you have no idea when it's going to [13:11] be open and you have no idea what the [13:12] movie is what movie is going to be [13:14] playing like does that mean that you [13:15] have to go out and on twitter you have [13:17] to have everything scheduled like every [13:18] week everything no but kind of sticking [13:21] to a schedule is one of the things that [13:23] you want to do you want to have you know [13:26] available to people that are looking for [13:28] your content if somebody's like hey what [13:30] time are you going to be live you want [13:31] to be able to at least you know have a [13:33] time frame and have the days that you're [13:35] going to be going live me for example [13:37] here on twitch i'm live mondays [13:39] wednesdays thursdays and fridays 11 to [13:41] noon est is when i go live and people [13:44] know that if they pop in around that [13:46] time i'm more than likely going to be [13:47] live and if i'm not i'm probably going [13:49] to put something out on guess what the [13:51] discord because i can let everybody know [13:53] that hey i'm not feeling well or i've [13:55] got other things going on or maybe we're [13:57] working on a project i just don't have [13:59] time to stream that day that's one of [14:01] the upsides of having your community in [14:04] a medium like a discord you can let [14:06] everybody know hey there's not gonna be [14:08] a stream today because i know i'm [14:09] feeling sick or i'm not feeling well or [14:11] i have other things going on or maybe i [14:14] have you know finals or something like [14:16] that and keeping people informed is [14:18] going to make people feel like they're [14:20] connected which with when you're [14:22] building a community you want people to [14:23] feel like they're connected they want [14:24] you want people to feel like they are [14:26] part of the community it's a very very [14:28] good thing to be have all right so we [14:30] have a question from purple nigel how [14:32] long should we do youtube before trying [14:34] out twitch assuming there's a [14:35] recommended time frame uh i don't think [14:37] there's a recommended time frame i think [14:38] it's getting to the point where you feel [14:40] like you're comfortable uh being able to [14:42] go live and carry on a conversation for [14:45] uh i want to say like you know around [14:46] two hours like if you can stream for [14:48] around two hours it's pretty good and [14:50] you can then take those two hours of [14:52] content make those into a youtube video [14:55] something make it into a highlight reel [14:56] it doesn't have to be anything fancy [14:59] it just has to be something that you can [15:00] use for content don't let your vods sit [15:04] and go to waste [15:06] that's a personal mistake i've been [15:07] doing for the last year and it's [15:09] something that now i'm looking to [15:10] correct i'll go ahead and use myself for [15:12] example when i was doing youtube i knew [15:14] that i did want to stream however i knew [15:17] that i was a very quiet person i was a [15:18] very soft-spoken person i knew that i [15:20] didn't really know how i wanted to [15:22] stream and ultimately the way i made [15:25] content and the way i wound up streaming [15:26] are now very very different like [15:28] actually if you look down on the youtube [15:30] channel if you look through all my old [15:32] content you can see the very first [15:34] youtube video i ever made uh it is very [15:36] very different from the content today i [15:38] spent about eight to nine months doing [15:40] youtube before i even thought about [15:42] streaming because that's where i started [15:44] to feel comfortable in my skills as a [15:45] content creator and my skill as a [15:47] narrator everything like that to get to [15:48] the point where i was like if i'm [15:50] streaming to nobody i can still keep [15:52] talking i can still carry on a [15:54] conversation and be entertaining so if [15:57] anybody does come into my stream they're [15:59] like hey this guy's pretty nifty i might [16:02] want to stay around and watch and become [16:03] a part of his community and we've got [16:05] another question from go tastic what is [16:07] the first thing one should focus on in [16:09] content creation streaming my opinion [16:12] and this is probably gonna be a hot take [16:13] for a lot of people is that you are [16:15] entertaining yourself now you may be [16:17] like oh well now i gotta sit there i can [16:18] play a video game and you know i just [16:20] sit there in silence and it's [16:21] entertaining to me yes it's entertaining [16:24] to you but you need to learn how to [16:25] vocalize the entertainment take that [16:27] entertainment that you feel and channel [16:29] it into being a outward force as well [16:32] that's one of the things that i adhere [16:33] to why do i stream it's because i enjoy [16:36] streaming but it's also extremely [16:38] entertaining to me every day i go on i [16:40] turn on the stream i do it because it [16:42] entertains me because i enjoy doing it i [16:45] enjoy the process of it i have a fun [16:47] time doing it one of the greatest things [16:50] that people underestimate is the ability [16:52] for people to sense [16:54] if somebody's having a good time i go [16:56] and i stream i go on rants i go on [16:59] tangents i'll yell at video games i'll [17:00] just you know all sorts of chaos will [17:02] happen but at the end of the day i am [17:05] having a good time and i am entertaining [17:07] myself i then take that entertainment [17:10] and i project it outwards so other [17:12] people will maybe stuck at work maybe [17:14] they're stuck driving maybe something [17:16] else they can also [17:18] have a good time they can enjoy [17:20] themselves through me because guess what [17:23] sometimes [17:24] life sucks [17:26] [Laughter] [17:28] and at the end of the day we as [17:30] streamers [17:31] we're entertainers you're luck exactly [17:34] externalize your joy reactions feelings [17:36] vibe [17:37] yes that is good look at chat chat's so [17:40] smart but anyways yeah that's going to [17:42] be our basic lesson on how to build your [17:44] community as a streamer if you have any [17:46] questions we're going to have links down [17:47] for the discord in the youtube comment [17:49] section or you can always join me live [17:50] here on twitch like i said before i'm [17:53] live mondays wednesdays thursdays and [17:55] fridays january from 11 a.m est around [17:58] to noon est are the times when i go live [18:01] and i'm generally live for about five to [18:02] six hours you can pop in i'm always open [18:05] for content questions feel free to ask [18:07] away i love talking about the subject i [18:09] love educating people that you know want [18:11] to get into content creation it's [18:13] something that is a central tenet of [18:14] this community or if you just want to [18:16] pop in you want to watch a purple noodle [18:18] man yell at things or talk about spooky [18:20] things you're welcome as well but that's [18:22] it for today i hope to see you in the [18:23] next youtube video where we're going to [18:25] be talking about more chilling content [18:26] creation topics [18:29] until then though [18:30] have a good one youtube [18:36] [Music] [19:05] you