[0:06] Let's rewind. Rewind.
[0:11] Welcome back to Screen Crush Rewind. I
[0:13] am your host, Ryan Ary, and today we're
[0:16] talking about the movie of my dreams,
[0:17] Masters of the Universe. This movie is
[0:20] the exact film that I wanted to see more
[0:23] than anything in the world when I was
[0:24] five years old. And now we have it, and
[0:27] we're going to talk about our thoughts
[0:28] on it. We got some uh a couple regulars
[0:30] and a special guest we're going to bring
[0:31] on in a second. So, we're going to talk
[0:33] about the film and we're going to talk
[0:34] about why the hell it didn't perform
[0:36] well at the box office. I think it might
[0:38] be an indicator of franchise fatigue.
[0:40] Now, some of you have pointed out in the
[0:41] chat, by the way, super chats are always
[0:43] encouraged but not required. Some of you
[0:45] have already pointed out that it got
[0:47] beaten by Scary Movie 6, which is
[0:49] technically a franchise, but I kind of
[0:51] think it's one of those franchises where
[0:53] you're not going to really check in on
[0:55] your favorite characters from the Scary
[0:56] Movie franchise. you're just going to
[0:58] see a comedy that you can ignore and
[1:00] forget about a week later. So, anyways,
[1:02] we're going to talk about that. We're
[1:02] going to talk about underperforming
[1:04] franchises across the board from Marvel,
[1:06] The Fast and the Furious, Mission
[1:07] Impossible, etc. And as always, let us
[1:09] know down in the comments uh what you
[1:11] think and we'll get to those as we go
[1:12] along. And I want to remind you guys
[1:14] that our store memberships are currently
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[1:22] and we're going to do our X-Men 2 watch
[1:24] party coming up soon. Actually, we
[1:25] should ask one of our guests if he wants
[1:27] to do that because I know he's a huge
[1:28] fan of that movie. But first, let's
[1:31] bring on, you know, the old regulars
[1:33] here, the guy who's always on break, Mr.
[1:34] Tommy Beck told. What's up, Tommy?
[1:37] Janet, I won't say it again. I've told
[1:39] you my origin. I'm a prince from another
[1:41] universe that was sent here with my
[1:43] magical sword. And that's why I must
[1:45] have weapons in my office at all times.
[1:47] Ryan, how are you?
[1:49] >> I'm great, man. You know what? Um,
[1:51] that's as good of an excuse as any I've
[1:53] heard to bring firepower and laser guns
[1:55] into the office. I think as long as you
[1:57] don't dress like He-Man in the office,
[1:59] that's a bridge too far for most HR. As
[2:02] long as you
[2:04] >> I do love a good harness.
[2:07] >> Uh, so I hear so I hear. By the way, we
[2:09] missed you at the club last week. And
[2:10] also coming on, you know him as a guy
[2:12] who's trapped in our TV but doesn't know
[2:14] it. So please don't tell him. Mr. Colton
[2:16] Auburn. What's up, Colton? Hey, look. I
[2:19] know I'm a regular, but I'm special as
[2:21] well. I mean, [laughter]
[2:23] regular is special. So, I
[2:26] >> Yeah, I'm not
[2:27] >> You haven't been on that much lately.
[2:28] We've been missing you.
[2:30] >> That's true. Yeah, because I
[2:32] >> I still haven't seen Spider Noir, and
[2:35] I'm I'm extremely embarrassed by that.
[2:37] You know, you know what I did?
[2:39] >> Yeah. You know what I did watch over the
[2:41] weekend? Uh the sequel to The Handmaid's
[2:44] Tale, The Testament. It's actually
[2:46] really good. The girl from um One Battle
[2:50] After Another is in it. It's actually
[2:51] quite good. Recommend it.
[2:52] >> I mean, so is The Handmaid's Tale.
[2:54] Although, at a certain season, I stopped
[2:55] watching The Handmaid's Tale
[2:57] >> just because it's a hard watch.
[2:59] >> I was about,
[3:00] >> you know, really tough.
[3:02] >> The Testaments is not as hard of a
[3:04] watch. I will say because I agree with
[3:06] you, like I you have to be in a certain
[3:08] mood to get through Handmaid's Tale, and
[3:10] you do not feel good watching that show.
[3:12] This show is actually kind of it like
[3:14] takes place after the war and stuff, so
[3:16] things are a little more hopeful anyway.
[3:17] >> Oh, the war ends. Didn't know that.
[3:19] Okay. But no, it's um Damn.
[3:22] >> No, no, no. It's still go it's still
[3:23] going on. No, it's still going.
[3:24] >> Spoiler alerts for The Handmaid's Tale
[3:27] are ahead.
[3:27] >> I should have said battle. It takes
[3:29] place after the big battle.
[3:30] >> I don't know. It's fine. I assumed that
[3:33] they weren't going to end the show.
[3:35] >> Ryan Ryan roots for Gilead as does Tom.
[3:38] >> I do. I actually I actually have a my
[3:41] proud member of Gilead badge that I keep
[3:43] on the inside of my shirt. Like if you
[3:45] flip this over, that's what it says.
[3:47] >> I invite everyone to watch mine and
[3:49] Ryan's podcast, Gilead Guys, which is a
[3:52] Gilmore Girls [laughter]
[3:55] pro masculinity podcast.
[3:57] >> Yeah, we go around the streets of New
[3:59] Haven into coffee shops and we yell at
[4:02] people for being diverse. And coming up,
[4:05] we've got our special guest for the
[4:06] week. I've been trying to nail this guy
[4:07] down for a long time. He hosts one of my
[4:10] all-time favorite YouTube channels and
[4:11] one of my all-time favorite podcasts,
[4:13] mostly nitpicking. You know him as Nando
[4:15] from Nando V Movies. What's going on,
[4:17] Nando?
[4:18] >> What's going on? I just want to, you
[4:20] know, having not watched any of that
[4:22] Handmaid's Tail show, I just want to I
[4:24] guess that an excursion is different
[4:26] from a war is different from a battle.
[4:28] You know, in our current times, nothing
[4:29] [laughter] really can be pinned down to
[4:31] any specific kind of thing. That way, no
[4:33] one's ever in trouble. So, uh, you know,
[4:35] Yeah.
[4:36] >> Yeah. Everything's there.
[4:38] >> I don't know if you guys have ever seen
[4:39] Nando's channel. It's absolutely great.
[4:41] He does um um you know, great theory
[4:44] videos where you one of my favorites is
[4:46] your Deadpool 3 video where you came up
[4:48] with your own for Deadpool
[4:48] [clears throat] 3 that involve Mojo and
[4:50] I like it so much more than the actual
[4:53] one. But you do these great rewrites of
[4:55] movies. Um and then these other great
[4:57] theory videos is how I first found your
[4:59] channel. I'm just plugging the hell out
[5:00] of Nando because I love your stuff. It's
[5:02] some field. It really I just want to say
[5:04] it's an honor to be on with you because
[5:05] for years I've been called the not as
[5:07] good Nando V movies. I've got that
[5:10] >> few times. [laughter]
[5:11] >> Have you guys
[5:12] >> Good to know
[5:14] exists with that name going out here and
[5:16] like [laughter] Yeah.
[5:18] >> The very first time Nando came on was
[5:20] actually you were on our very first
[5:22] video like this. It wasn't a live
[5:23] stream, but it was me, you, and Patrick.
[5:25] And you dropped a little theory that
[5:27] Sony, it was only a matter of time
[5:28] before they made a Manwolf movie. And
[5:30] that's never left my brain because they
[5:32] never have. And I thought Manwolf was
[5:35] one of the few things they could have
[5:36] done from the Spider-Man IP. It makes
[5:38] sense. Astronaut goes to the moon, turns
[5:40] into a wolf. It could be anything.
[5:41] >> Yeah.
[5:41] >> Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, there's
[5:43] still time. And um I haven't finished,
[5:46] you know, the Spider-Man TV show. So
[5:47] maybe it shows up in that. I'm doubtful,
[5:49] but you never know.
[5:50] >> Wait, the new one or the one from the
[5:51] 70s? Which Spider-Man TV show we talking
[5:53] about?
[5:53] >> The the Amazon Spider Noir. I am uh one
[5:57] episode complet. So I like to take my
[5:58] time with streaming releases.
[6:00] >> It's so good. And I agree. I had to
[6:02] watch it like really fast for this. You
[6:04] know, I host the show here uh on YouTube
[6:07] >> and I had to do it for that and it
[6:09] wasn't as much fun and then I get to go
[6:11] back and rewatch it in black and white
[6:12] with my wife.
[6:13] >> Can I can I say while we're glazing that
[6:14] that's something I really have Sorry,
[6:16] I'm fanboying a little bit. That's what
[6:17] I've always liked about your channel,
[6:18] Nando, is you don't feel the need, at
[6:22] least from what I've noticed, like
[6:24] >> it'll be like a week or two after
[6:25] everyone else is talking about it and
[6:27] like you'll drop and have your really
[6:28] interesting take on it. I'm like, he
[6:30] really took his time to like put some
[6:32] thoughts together. [laughter] I'm like,
[6:36] >> I like to
[6:37] >> Yeah. like throw out immediate like um
[6:40] theories or thoughts, too. But yeah,
[6:42] especially with these these, you know,
[6:44] everything goes on streaming in one
[6:45] week. feels so,
[6:47] >> you know, just feels so ephemeral. You
[6:49] need to have time to think about it,
[6:51] even if it doesn't necessarily need to
[6:53] be watched over the course of the week.
[6:54] I feel like it takes a week to process
[6:56] how you feel about a certain thing.
[6:57] >> Completely agree.
[6:58] >> But that's really smart because the
[6:59] people who are watching your channel are
[7:01] probably not watching in one day either.
[7:03] I we used to get ridiculous with this.
[7:05] Like we would get screeners for like I
[7:07] remember the first season of Sandman and
[7:09] then Paul from Heavy Spoilers and I were
[7:11] in this like weird cold war where we
[7:12] were like waiting to see who was going
[7:14] to drop their video first. So we would
[7:15] drop the next one like right after or
[7:17] right before and because we knew it was
[7:18] ridiculous. We knew that like no one's
[7:20] going to watch all eight episodes in two
[7:21] hours
[7:22] >> and that the minority of people who
[7:24] would go I'm not going to watch that
[7:25] what happens at the ending would be like
[7:26] four views. So I really respect what you
[7:28] do like Colton said
[7:31] >> it's great to take time and sometimes
[7:33] you know like with the wonder video that
[7:34] I'm going to make sometime in the next
[7:36] eight years you like like leave people
[7:38] wanting something and then it really
[7:40] gets exciting. But, uh,
[7:42] >> we've got a Captain America Civil War
[7:44] breakdown that should come out sometime
[7:45] [laughter] in 2028. I am so excited
[7:47] about it. It's It's one of my favorite
[7:49] videos I've written and it's like
[7:50] literally a couple sentences a week at
[7:52] this point. Let's talk about the movie.
[7:53] Let's talk about MOTU. Um, now I will
[7:56] say this ahead of time, Tommy, you
[7:58] weren't able to finish watching it, but
[8:00] you saw about half.
[8:02] >> Not half. My dog was uh sick this
[8:05] weekend and I thought I could leave him
[8:07] to go to see a movie and halfway through
[8:09] the movie, I just imagined all these
[8:11] catastrophic things happening to my dog.
[8:14] So, I ran home and then one visit to the
[8:16] emergency vet later, he's got an ear
[8:18] infection and a uh distressed digestive
[8:21] system, but he's no life-threatening
[8:23] condition, so he's he'll be okay. But it
[8:25] was a it was a tough weekend.
[8:28] >> Wednesday night, I've been there. And
[8:29] Wednesday night I was supposed to go see
[8:30] it, but Doug was having a reaction from
[8:32] a vaccine and he was like trembling and
[8:34] he wouldn't eat. And for Doug to not eat
[8:35] is like drastic change in personality.
[8:38] >> Um, so I didn't see it then either. Like
[8:40] I was feel last. I got my mom [laughter]
[8:44] I got my mom to keep the baby. I I
[8:46] didn't think about that [ __ ] for
[8:47] years. Yeah. [laughter]
[8:48] >> No, no, no. I did see the movie and I
[8:51] really like it. So let's go around the
[8:52] table. Tommy, if you want to offer your
[8:53] thoughts on the first hour, you can. But
[8:55] like start with Nando, buddy. What do
[8:57] you think about what you think of the
[8:58] movie? I think this is as good as a
[9:00] movie that is the Masters of the
[9:01] Universe can possibly be without like
[9:03] I'm sure there's some things you could
[9:04] tweak to make it better, but just in
[9:06] terms of like how much and as someone
[9:08] who is not an enormous fan of the
[9:10] franchise, but like I like it more than
[9:12] like other franchises that I'm not like
[9:13] really connected to. Um cuz I think I
[9:16] kind of missed out on in both windows of
[9:18] like being around for the original run
[9:20] of the toys in the show and then being
[9:21] around for like the kind of revival
[9:23] versions of them. Um, but either way, I
[9:25] thought it was a lot of fun and um I
[9:29] wish it was the most successful movie
[9:31] ever because I'd like to see like 10
[9:33] more of these because I think they're
[9:34] pretty cool.
[9:34] >> And Shira Shira love Shira. There's so
[9:38] many guys that when you Google it and
[9:40] it's like this is a different guy that
[9:41] you didn't even know existed. Like
[9:42] they're they're friends and villains.
[9:44] Like I want to see all of them on
[9:45] screen. But
[9:46] >> maybe we'll get to that. It's gonna be
[9:48] tricky.
[9:49] >> Not to mention there's so many other
[9:50] He-Man characters that aren't in this.
[9:52] like stink or they all have or or either
[9:55] or or man at the end of their name, but
[9:56] there's a lot of really cool bits of
[9:58] lore that I would love to see further
[10:00] explored. And on Emergency Awesome's
[10:02] video, he said he thinks they'll make a
[10:04] sequel for half the money and put it
[10:05] straight on streaming. And I think he's
[10:06] probably right.
[10:08] >> I mean, apart Colton, apart from like
[10:10] not having to being able to pretend like
[10:13] you're not a father for two hours,
[10:15] >> what were your thoughts on the movie?
[10:17] >> Dude,
[10:19] look, it's really hard being me, right?
[10:21] being all of us.
[10:22] >> Oh, we we all say that. Yeah,
[10:24] >> there is that side of my brain that
[10:27] wants to just sit back and watch the
[10:29] movie. But then there's the other side
[10:31] of me, as I'm sure all of you can
[10:32] relate, that I I immediately start
[10:35] rewriting the movie the second I get out
[10:37] and I'm like,
[10:38] >> they should have done this, should have
[10:39] done that. But Ryan, I was telling you
[10:41] this offline is that what kept coming
[10:44] back to me was Mark Hamill doing that
[10:46] impression of Harrison Ford where he
[10:48] goes, "Kid, it's not that kind of
[10:50] movie." [laughter]
[10:51] And that's what I kept trying to tell
[10:53] myself because
[10:54] >> look, I I do think a Masters of the
[10:57] Universe movie can be goofy and
[10:59] self-reerential and meta and be
[11:01] everything it was here, but I think it
[11:03] can also be Lord of the Rings meets Star
[11:05] Wars and be like this epic
[11:07] >> saga type franchise for today. I and I I
[11:11] feel like that it it felt more like diet
[11:14] Thor Ragnarok than it did like this epic
[11:16] Masters of the Universe thing.
[11:19] >> I like that.
[11:20] >> I just Yeah, I just had like little
[11:21] notes like it it felt like no time
[11:24] passed whatsoever and nothing of
[11:27] consequence happened when he landed. Oh,
[11:30] sorry. I'm getting some kind of
[11:31] feedback.
[11:32] >> Yeah, I am too. I don't know who's who's
[11:33] in that is about to say. Um
[11:35] >> we can do the mute rotation. Let's see.
[11:36] >> I don't know. I muted Tommy and I don't
[11:39] hear it anymore.
[11:40] >> All right,
[11:41] >> maybe Tommy that might have been on your
[11:42] end, but keep going. Sorry.
[11:44] >> Uh it it felt like when um Adam L or
[11:47] I'll be like long neck guy Allan. It
[11:49] felt like when Adam landed on Earth and
[11:52] then they say 15 years later. I just
[11:55] felt like his character didn't change at
[11:57] all. There was nothing interesting of
[11:59] like him like almost reaching this point
[12:01] where maybe he finally started to doubt
[12:03] the fact that he is from another planet.
[12:05] I I would like I expected that in the
[12:07] third act.
[12:08] >> Yeah. I would have liked to seen him
[12:09] like talking to a psychiatrist or
[12:11] something and maybe finally coming to
[12:13] grips with okay maybe something
[12:14] traumatic did happen in my childhood and
[12:16] I'm just kind of crazy and then have
[12:19] Tila and like you know Masters of the
[12:21] Universe everybody come and get him take
[12:23] him back to Eternia. I I just think they
[12:25] kind of blew past and rushed through it.
[12:27] It felt like there was no character
[12:29] development for him or any of the other
[12:31] characters that were remaining on
[12:33] Eternia. It it felt like time just kind
[12:35] of stood still so they could just age up
[12:37] the character and have him come right
[12:38] back.
[12:39] >> Well, we don't even know their real
[12:40] names on Eternia for the most part. It's
[12:42] just a name they gave him as a kid.
[12:43] Yeah.
[12:43] >> And like there's a line where uh it's
[12:45] Tila, right? I I'm not huge on the the
[12:48] original either. Uh Tila says, "And what
[12:51] did you call what did you call that
[12:52] guy?" I'm like, "What do you mean that
[12:54] guy? You don't know his name." I was She
[12:56] should be like, "And what did you call
[12:57] John?" You know, she should They've been
[12:59] hiding in just little [ __ ] like that.
[13:01] >> And
[13:02] >> I don't know. I I just felt like they
[13:03] kind of blew past a lot of important
[13:05] stuff that would have made the rest of
[13:08] the movie feel better, like it feel more
[13:11] impactful and like I I'd actually care a
[13:13] little more. It just felt a little
[13:14] shallow. But again, kid, it's not that
[13:17] kind of movie. So, I I don't know.
[13:18] >> Well, but no, you raised a good point
[13:19] because during that third act, sorry,
[13:21] Tommy, we'll get to your half opinion in
[13:22] a second. During that third act, um I
[13:25] did have the same thought when he's in
[13:26] He-Man's mind and it seemed like
[13:28] Skeletor was trying to convince him of
[13:30] this. Oh, it was all fake, blah, blah,
[13:31] blah. and he doing the silly thing where
[13:33] he appears and is dressed as a guy the
[13:35] boss from office space. Um
[13:38] >> he's going through all that and I did
[13:40] think at that point like you know he
[13:41] hasn't expressed any doubt in himself.
[13:43] But one thing I did love about the movie
[13:45] is how that's his real power. Like his
[13:47] childlike optimism and belief and how
[13:50] he's able to inspire everybody later in
[13:52] the film. Like he's able they they take
[13:54] his dumb goofy speech and his dumb goofy
[13:56] names and it actually propels them
[13:58] forward which I loved.
[14:00] >> Yeah. Well, can I just say one more
[14:01] thing. I know I'm talking about
[14:03] >> they're just little like usually I'm the
[14:05] type of guy that like I hate when a Thor
[14:07] movie or whatever or a Transformers
[14:09] movie feels the need to take place on
[14:12] Earth and have like a lot of human
[14:13] characters and stuff. So, I really
[14:15] appreciated that this movie, the bulk of
[14:16] it took place on Attorneyia. In fact,
[14:19] when I saw that they were even having
[14:20] part of it take place on Earth in the
[14:22] trailers, I was like, "Oh, boo. We don't
[14:24] need He-Man's Origin. Just do a Masters
[14:26] of the Universe." Masters of the
[14:27] Universe 1987 movie that we were so
[14:29] jazzed for when I was seven was the
[14:32] biggest disappointment because it starts
[14:33] with a giant Eternia set. It starts with
[14:36] all these people from the movie, the
[14:38] cartoon. You think that's what you're
[14:39] getting and then they go to Earth so
[14:41] Courtney Cox and Tom Paris, you know,
[14:43] can [ __ ] around for half of the movie.
[14:46] >> Half of the screen time belongs to those
[14:47] two teenage characters.
[14:49] >> Yeah. So that that's not what I wanted
[14:51] at all. So, I I'm glad that they're on
[14:53] Eternia for a lot of it, but I do feel
[14:54] like an extra 10 minutes on Earth really
[14:57] would have set up the rest of the movie
[14:59] and and served it well because again, it
[15:01] just
[15:02] >> it just felt like I don't know like I I
[15:04] just know nothing about like who who
[15:06] were his parents? Was he in foster care?
[15:08] Did did he have Earth parents? Did
[15:09] somebody find him? Like, they just kind
[15:11] of bypass all of that. It it really just
[15:13] feels like he landed on Earth and then
[15:15] everybody just stood still for 15 years
[15:17] until the the rest of the movie could
[15:19] start. It It was weird. Yeah.
[15:20] >> Yeah. second movie this year was that
[15:22] guy, I forget his his name, the actor
[15:23] who plays an orphan. The other one's The
[15:24] Sheep Detectives, which is genuinely a
[15:26] much better movie that everybody should
[15:28] see. It's so great. Tommy, I got my
[15:30] thoughts, but I want to hear from you
[15:31] first. You've been very Thank you.
[15:33] >> Well, I'll I'll give my half my
[15:34] halfbaked thoughts. I So, my love for
[15:38] He-Man is I think maybe a little more
[15:40] unconventional. I wasn't like a huge fan
[15:42] of the He-Man cartoon. Like, the toys
[15:44] were it for me. So I my my my uh my like
[15:48] love for He-Man is like the world I
[15:50] created with those toys based on their
[15:52] names only. So I deeply loved how this
[15:55] movie was paced because I wanted them
[15:57] off of Earth as soon as possible back
[16:00] with my toys like and so and I
[16:02] understand and I think Colton's point is
[16:04] completely valid is a like a cinematic
[16:06] theatrical experience and a story but as
[16:10] a viewer
[16:11] >> I was kind of like yeah who cares about
[16:12] all this? Get him a sword and get him
[16:14] back. uh back to Attorneyio as soon as
[16:16] possible and like and that worked for
[16:19] me. And I thought that
[16:22] visually and with the score that was
[16:24] provided that was like with
[16:25] collaboration from Queen and all that, I
[16:28] just I just really enjoying myself. If I
[16:30] wasn't so worried that my dog was laying
[16:32] in a ditch somewhere, [laughter]
[16:34] I probably would have walked away from
[16:36] it and and eventually had those similar
[16:38] thoughts of like, yeah, they might have
[16:40] been able to explain why this like, you
[16:42] know, ripped kid is like so insecure and
[16:45] like talks about this alien planet for
[16:47] the first week. I also love that they
[16:49] tried to hide the fact that he was
[16:50] muscular under that volcano.
[16:53] >> Yeah. He's like, I'm starting to work
[16:54] out for the first time. I'm like, okay.
[16:56] And then even when they transform his
[16:58] body, when he transforms the first time,
[17:00] they CGI him to be scared.
[17:02] >> Yes.
[17:02] >> They go to Steve Rogers. But
[17:05] >> my dumb ass, my dumb ass leans over to
[17:07] my wife. You see, he's actually
[17:09] muscular. They CGIed the dad. [laughter]
[17:12] >> But I could have done more things like
[17:14] digitally to make him look smaller, but
[17:16] yeah,
[17:17] >> kid. It's not that kind of movie. Like I
[17:19] I you kind of like you have to suspend a
[17:20] lot of disbelief with this. My thought
[17:22] was when I was so I'm pretty sure this
[17:24] movie got green lit because of Barbie.
[17:25] They're both Mattel properties and I'm
[17:27] sure they would love to have like a toy
[17:28] cinematic universe with Polly Pocket and
[17:30] [ __ ] like that.
[17:31] >> Um, so I was excited about it as a
[17:35] He-Man fan. I knew they were like
[17:36] approaching it from a certain meta level
[17:38] the same way Barbie did. Uh, which is
[17:40] why I liked like, okay, Fisto and Ram
[17:43] Fristo and Ram Man, those are really
[17:44] dumb names. And they explain why they
[17:46] have those names because the other
[17:47] option is to like wholeheartedly embrace
[17:50] that camp and like really own it. The
[17:52] part where they finally get everybody
[17:53] together, they break out of prison.
[17:55] They're walking down the They're doing
[17:56] the hallway walk every, you know, we've
[17:58] seen it a million times. Guardians, Kill
[17:59] Bill, whatever. They're playing Queen.
[18:02] It's awesome. But then they stop and do
[18:04] a gag where they all cough.
[18:07] I hated that on like every level. You
[18:11] can hate something. I am so tired of
[18:13] movies and franchises trying to be James
[18:15] Gun or Marvel and undermine the the the
[18:18] moment with a joke. I'm tired of Marvel
[18:20] doing it, you know? Like, just enjoy.
[18:22] You've built to this moment. you build
[18:24] this rally point, soak in the rally
[18:26] point for a little bit and then you can
[18:27] do more jokey stuff later. Like if it
[18:29] were a letter grade, I I think it
[18:31] dropped it a whole letter for me because
[18:32] that was indicative of what I saw all
[18:34] through the movie. The only other way to
[18:36] do I was thinking about this too. The
[18:37] only other way to do a a spin on He-Man
[18:42] would be, if you think about it, guys,
[18:43] it's pretty [ __ ] up. It's this kid,
[18:46] Adam, young prince, who suddenly gets
[18:48] the power to be a super macho dude. In
[18:50] the real world, that would go horrible
[18:53] if you took a 13-year-old boy and you
[18:55] gave him that kind of power and it would
[18:57] be a dark almost like miracle man kind
[19:00] of story. But other than that, I
[19:01] >> I don't know. Nanda, what did you think
[19:02] of the the metaess of it? Did it work
[19:05] for you?
[19:06] >> It's tricky because on one hand, like um
[19:08] there was I'm sure there were some joke
[19:10] Well, I don't know. It doesn't feel like
[19:11] there were too many jokes that went over
[19:12] my head as a non huge He-Man fan, but I
[19:15] am like pretty familiar with the uh the
[19:17] idea of it. I think as a way to
[19:22] have the
[19:24] silliness of the characters and the
[19:27] designs of the characters and all of
[19:28] that. Um, and and I think like there's
[19:30] certain characters like Fisto, right,
[19:32] who like feel very
[19:34] >> kind of he does feel like they took a
[19:37] action figure, put it through like a
[19:39] cool guy filter, but then there's guys
[19:40] like Mechan who don't feel like that,
[19:42] who feel like they just took the action
[19:43] figure and brought him into real life.
[19:44] So, like I feel like as a as an attempt
[19:47] to take the idea of these toys and kind
[19:51] of contextualize them as being things
[19:53] that this guy remembers and that's why
[19:55] you kind of remember them the same way.
[19:57] I thought it was all very clever. I
[19:59] think um I I do kind of agree uh Colton
[20:02] a little bit now that I'm thinking about
[20:03] it that there could have been more time
[20:05] on Earth. I think he could have maybe in
[20:08] like cut it in with stuff in Eternia as
[20:12] maybe memories or something like that so
[20:13] it doesn't get super slow because it
[20:15] starts with the narration on the date
[20:17] and that's fine. I think that that's
[20:19] smart because it does need to kind of
[20:21] >> parts of it it helps if explained but um
[20:24] >> and I don't necessarily need to see him
[20:25] go on like four or five dates but I feel
[20:27] like maybe I don't know flashbacks or
[20:29] dreams or something like that that he
[20:30] has or memories uh could keep that first
[20:33] bit moving uh a little better. But yeah,
[20:35] I think as far as a way to I think as
[20:38] far as a way to kind of keep the childy
[20:41] toiness of these guys together with the
[20:45] reality of guys that can do a big punch
[20:47] and stuff on screen and not look silly.
[20:50] I mean, they look kind of silly. Uh, I
[20:52] think they I think they did a pretty
[20:54] pretty decent job. Um, and as far as
[20:56] like little kind of Jos Sweden jokes, I
[20:58] don't love them, but um I will usually
[21:01] excuse a joke. I I'm usually pretty
[21:05] unless the joke is like meanspirited or
[21:07] something. I'm usually pretty forgiving
[21:09] when it comes to like jokes for me that
[21:10] don't work if they work in the theater
[21:12] and my theater thought that was very
[21:13] funny. So, I was I was right there with
[21:15] them and my theater was packed like cuz
[21:17] I saw it on some one of those opening
[21:18] night or like things like that. So, um I
[21:21] probably did have a kind of what's the
[21:22] word like a sweet crowd as far as people
[21:25] that were ready to laugh at that but I
[21:26] also think people you know people just
[21:28] just dug it.
[21:30] >> Hey, was your crowd I'm curious about
[21:31] this. Was your crowd guys in their 40s
[21:34] >> or was it like younger people?
[21:36] >> It was a lot of guys in their 40s and
[21:38] their kids in their 12elves or whatever.
[21:40] Like a lot of both of those. Yeah.
[21:42] Together.
[21:42] >> I thought that was going to propel it
[21:43] because like He-Man as a franchise
[21:46] >> was so big but only for a few years in
[21:49] the 80s like around eight like when the
[21:52] movie came out. The live action is right
[21:54] when it like abruptly dropped off a
[21:55] cliff. But for those of us who were
[21:57] there, it was like seinal. You know that
[22:00] the other thing in the movie I kept
[22:01] thinking he's why aren't they playing
[22:03] the theme? He-Man has this amazing theme
[22:05] every time he would transform. They
[22:06] played it a hundred times in every
[22:07] episode and then when they finally
[22:09] played it at the end like that got me
[22:10] like straight in the feels and I was
[22:12] like ready and I wanted that moment
[22:14] earlier in the movie. But that could
[22:15] just be me loving that.
[22:16] >> I I think you're spot on about the
[22:18] flashbacks. That would have been a great
[22:19] way to do it without bogging down the
[22:21] first act. And the perfect place to have
[22:24] put them would have been during that
[22:26] sequence where the movie just like comes
[22:28] to this complete stop in the in those
[22:30] red woods or whatever where they're
[22:32] having where it's uh man of man at arms
[22:35] and Tila and Adam. I think that would
[22:37] have been a good place to actually have
[22:39] him give some like catchup exposition
[22:42] that would have flowed really well and
[22:44] taken us into that third act and given
[22:46] me all that information I wanted to have
[22:48] to better enjoy the third act. So yeah,
[22:50] I think that would have been a good
[22:51] place to do it. Skeletor
[22:53] for you guys as a villain.
[22:56] >> Oh, sorry, man. Finish your thought.
[22:58] >> I was just gonna say now that you
[22:59] mentioned it and now that we're kind of
[23:00] talking about it and like the way that
[23:02] the characters are kind of versions of
[23:05] characters that exist in his mind, I
[23:07] almost wish and they couldn't Well, they
[23:09] could have done this, but this is kind
[23:11] of a different version of this movie. I
[23:12] wish the first bit we saw was animated
[23:14] and it looked nothing like the real guys
[23:16] [clears throat] and it was clearly the
[23:17] version that he remembers that he drew
[23:19] and then when we saw them in real life
[23:21] they look like the guys that they are.
[23:22] But anyway, uh Skeletor cool uh very
[23:25] well. Okay, two things about Skeletor.
[23:27] One, it feels like a take on the
[23:30] Franklin Skeletor, not any other version
[23:33] of Skeletor because of the voice. That's
[23:35] not a Skeletor voice outside of that per
[23:38] like performance um that I can at least
[23:41] that I could recognize.
[23:42] >> Yeah, even even Mark Hamill when he did
[23:44] it adapted it more I mean he basically
[23:46] did a version of the Joker but it was a
[23:47] more of a version from the man.
[23:50] >> You guys ever have a chance to watch
[23:51] those Skeletor insult super cuts?
[23:53] They're amazing.
[23:55] >> Gretorous B.
[23:57] >> My my favorites my favorite Skeletor
[24:00] lines are actually from Robot Chicken
[24:02] and my wife and I quote them to each
[24:03] other. all the time like the what?
[24:08] Behold the gas stench of Skeletor's
[24:10] breakfast burrito.
[24:12] >> Oh, in the car. That was a good one.
[24:16] >> All the other [laughter]
[24:18] or uh I'm not evil Lynn. I will be good
[24:22] Lynn. Uh this whole time I thought your
[24:24] name was Evelyn. She goes, [laughter]
[24:28] "Pretty clever, huh?" Ah, no. But
[24:31] [laughter]
[24:32] >> just reminder, so I'm curious why this
[24:34] movie bombed. But just before we get
[24:36] into that, I want to talk about I just
[24:37] want to show you guys real quick. We do
[24:38] have a couple of
[24:40] >> nice
[24:40] >> merch uh parody merch shirts. We got
[24:42] this Grace Gold Gem in the style of Gold
[24:44] Gem that we really love. We're proud of
[24:46] at our merch store.com.
[24:48] >> You can get it. Just give us your size
[24:49] and we'll get one sent to you.
[24:51] >> And we've also got the I have the power
[24:53] shirt, which it really, like I said,
[24:55] that's the moment that always jazzed me
[24:57] up every time I watched He-Man. And
[24:59] yeah, these are available at our merch
[25:00] store. And if you become a store member
[25:02] at just our $ five dollar tier, you get
[25:05] 15% off our merch store, uh, along with
[25:07] other things like monthly watch parties,
[25:09] exclusive videos, etc. And at the $100
[25:11] tier, if you're game for that sort of
[25:12] nonsense, we do a private Q&A live
[25:15] stream. We had our first one the other
[25:16] day. It was a lot of fun. I live stream
[25:18] people. I showed around the studio and,
[25:20] you know, kind of gave behind the scenes
[25:21] and just answer questions. I got to talk
[25:23] about myself for 30 minutes. It's
[25:24] amazing. So, yep. Links for those and
[25:26] everything else are down below. I'm
[25:27] really tired going going back to your
[25:29] question. I'm really tired of them
[25:30] taking villains that are supposed to
[25:32] have the like the high pitch thing like
[25:34] Carnage is supposed to and giving them
[25:37] the
[25:38] and they kind of did that with Skeletor
[25:40] a little bit and I didn't think his
[25:42] voice was awful. Like they could have
[25:43] gone like way worse but I I would have
[25:46] preferred a little bit more of a high
[25:48] pitch like have Mark Campbell do it
[25:49] maybe. I think that's
[25:50] >> and I and I think like it feels
[25:53] unnecessary to make give him more graas
[25:56] in his voice when the movie is already
[25:58] that ridiculous, right? If there's ever
[26:00] a live action movie that can get away
[26:02] with a villain with a silly voice, it's
[26:04] this one. Like there I mean like there
[26:08] literally no reason not to have him have
[26:10] the cartoon voice. And I hate to say it
[26:13] because by all accounts he doesn't seem
[26:15] like a very good person. Jerry thought I
[26:17] could have killed that. Like, you know,
[26:18] like
[26:19] >> he did good. He understood the
[26:21] assignment. You're right. A crescendo.
[26:23] He didn't say it like that, but that's
[26:24] how I remembered in my head.
[26:25] >> Ryan, [laughter]
[26:26] I sent Ryan a video of me puppeteering
[26:29] my child. That's the crescendo.
[26:32] [laughter]
[26:33] >> One of the best things about having a
[26:35] baby is making them do stuff like that.
[26:37] Totally on it.
[26:39] >> Yeah. What's this?
[26:40] >> Oh, I'm sorry. I was Do you guys know
[26:42] this drama about Letto not being happy
[26:45] with the film or something? I've just
[26:46] seen little bits of memes
[26:49] >> they kept him off the press tour and I
[26:51] was wondering if that was because uh of
[26:54] just Jared Leto being box office poison
[26:56] at this point. I'm wondering if they
[26:58] signed him on to this and couldn't get
[27:00] him off of it like cuz you know like
[27:02] before they filmed it or something
[27:03] >> all after Tron they wanted a world where
[27:07] he thinks he did fine in this movie or
[27:09] whatever but because he's so toxic
[27:13] >> for all the different reasons of like
[27:15] the Tron movies didn't work and like all
[27:17] the like like Tron and uh what was the
[27:19] other one? Haunted Mansion all that kind
[27:21] of bombed in um the immediate wake of
[27:23] all of his other you know came out about
[27:25] him. Yeah. I feel like they could have
[27:27] been like, "Hey, you can't talk about
[27:30] this movie at all. Like, just stay away
[27:32] from it." And maybe that made him go
[27:34] like, "I don't really not into it. I'm
[27:36] not this isn't fun for me to talk about
[27:38] to random kids on an airplane." But like
[27:40] I could see a world where in reality he
[27:43] seemed to be into it. Like everything
[27:44] I've heard on behind the scenes, he put
[27:46] stupid blood on his face or something.
[27:48] Like he got excited about this world. He
[27:50] was there.
[27:51] He always does that [ __ ] like when he
[27:53] was the Joker and he put rats in
[27:55] people's locker. What's this airport?
[27:58] >> Oh, I saw a video or not video. I saw a
[28:01] report that one guy I think they said
[28:03] they were at an airport with him and
[28:05] they happened to be a big He-Man fan.
[28:07] They were like wearing a He-Man shirt
[28:08] and they said to him like, "Hey, I
[28:10] already saw that Master of the Universe
[28:12] movie you were in. That was great." And
[28:13] he's like, "Oh, cool. Thanks." And then
[28:14] left. And that's like the most reaction
[28:17] it feels like we've gotten from him
[28:18] about that movie in that moment. So like
[28:21] I and like if I
[28:24] was him and like was in that situation
[28:26] and you know all of the discourse around
[28:29] me was I'm going to destroy this movie
[28:31] because he kind of, you know, is a
[28:33] liability in a lot of ways. I feel like
[28:35] I also wouldn't want to talk about it.
[28:36] I'd want to talk about my band or
[28:38] whatever it is that he's happy about. I
[28:41] I don't think anyone knows that, you
[28:43] know, except for us really like our
[28:45] circle that he's even playing Skeletor.
[28:47] So that's probably
[28:47] >> they didn't even have a flashback of his
[28:49] like because
[28:50] >> you know he was long story short, he's
[28:52] King Randor's brother, Kellor, etc.,
[28:53] etc., etc. Person, half human. Exactly.
[28:59] Perseverance in the search for comic.
[29:01] >> I'm Skeletor.
[29:03] Anyways, they could have done all that
[29:06] and then maybe they even had that in the
[29:07] script, but I feel like they're you
[29:09] mentioned like maybe there was more on
[29:11] Earth and deleted scenes or something. I
[29:12] feel like the movie's two out. I don't
[29:14] think there was much else. I am
[29:16] interested in why it bombed because when
[29:17] our first when the first trailer
[29:18] dropped, we did something we've only
[29:20] done a couple times where I did a live
[29:21] breakdown. I pulled some stills and for
[29:23] like a live video that I droned on for
[29:25] 30 minutes about this fan geeking about
[29:28] this [ __ ] it it did pretty well. Got
[29:30] like almost 200,000 views. So, I
[29:31] thought, okay, there must be a lot of
[29:32] interest here.
[29:33] >> That's great for a live stream.
[29:35] >> Yeah.
[29:35] >> Yeah. Right. And it's going to be I
[29:36] think the movie is going to do really
[29:38] well on streaming. And I thought guys my
[29:40] age
[29:40] >> who, you know, were burned by the Dolph
[29:42] London movie were going to be jazzed
[29:44] about this. But then again, they've
[29:45] tried He-Man revivals over the years in
[29:47] the early 2000s. Great revival. They
[29:50] There was the the MOTU uh Revelation and
[29:52] Revolution on Netflix, which I think one
[29:55] of them only got a 52% from fans, but I
[29:57] love that one, too. But then none of
[29:59] them really captured the zeitgeist like
[30:00] those four years or three years in the
[30:03] 1980s did. There have been three
[30:05] revivals since then and none of them
[30:06] have really taken off.
[30:08] >> People don't go to the movies anymore. I
[30:12] I think a lot of people are going to
[30:13] watch it on streaming. They're probably
[30:14] just waiting.
[30:15] >> But that's a great point because you
[30:16] look at the competition they had and
[30:18] this is where I'm really curious to hear
[30:19] what you guys think because I haven't
[30:20] seen any of these movies yet. Their back
[30:22] their competition was Back Rooms
[30:23] Obsession which has gone up three weeks
[30:25] in a row which is like Titanic kind of
[30:29] >> like momentum and Amazing Digital Circus
[30:32] and those three have a YouTube presence.
[30:33] They're made by people with big social
[30:35] media reaches. They have an organic
[30:36] audience.
[30:37] >> That digital circus show I didn't
[30:39] realize their top viewed video has like
[30:41] 400 million views.
[30:42] >> Yeah. I don't even
[30:43] >> Or something like that. Like it's
[30:44] ridiculous. Uh in a good way. Like I'm
[30:47] really happy for them. So is that the
[30:49] reason why? But I kind of feel like
[30:51] maybe the kids they were hoping to
[30:53] attract to this movie, maybe I thought
[30:55] they would have at least bought tickets
[30:57] to it and snuck into back rooms, but I
[30:58] think that they watched other [ __ ] I
[31:00] mean, what do you guys think about the
[31:01] competition aspect?
[31:03] >> I mean, the competition.
[31:04] >> Yeah. Sorry, N.
[31:05] >> Oh, go say I think the competition is
[31:08] interesting because um I I don't think
[31:10] most of those movies really do compete
[31:13] with what He-Man was trying to do. The
[31:15] Digital Circus one I extra don't like
[31:17] know very much about, but like I feel
[31:19] like two I don't know was back or was
[31:21] back rooms R-rated, right? Yeah, two
[31:24] R-rated horror movies are definitely not
[31:27] what I feel like you would be worried
[31:28] about here. Um, I think the problem with
[31:31] He-Man, I do think the marketing for
[31:33] this movie, looking back at it, does a
[31:36] pretty bad job of just selling a fresh
[31:40] audience member on why He-Man is fun.
[31:42] not just like why the He-Man toys are
[31:45] fun, but like what is it about this
[31:47] story in this universe? And I think the
[31:49] movie has stuff in there that's like
[31:51] it's a movie about believing in yourself
[31:54] and transforming like X-Men and Harry
[31:56] Potter and all this stuff, but the movie
[31:58] doesn't like the none of the trailers
[32:00] really like hammer that in. It's just
[32:03] kind of like I'm from Maternia. I have
[32:05] the power and get the sword and then I
[32:07] fight this guy. But um I I don't know. I
[32:09] feel like if you're a, let's say,
[32:12] 13-year-old who's never heard of He-Man
[32:14] before, has probably seen Skeletor once
[32:16] or twice and other stuff, and then you
[32:19] see the trailer for this movie, I don't
[32:20] understand outside of maybe being a huge
[32:22] fan of Nicholas Gallatine, which perhaps
[32:24] people are. Uh, and like and being a fan
[32:28] of the director, who I also like and I
[32:30] don't think is quite a name yet, but
[32:31] like could
[32:32] >> Stephen D. Yeah, he's great.
[32:33] >> Yeah. Travis Knight. Yeah, he I love
[32:38] >> Yeah, but like the Bumblebee movie, if
[32:40] you saw that, you're like, "Oh man, this
[32:41] guy's the this guy's the hotness." Then
[32:42] I'm going to go watch whatever he makes.
[32:44] Um, you know, maybe five years in the
[32:46] future, that's a thing. But yeah, I I
[32:48] just feel like there was no hook for for
[32:49] kids and new viewers. So, you got all
[32:52] the adults and you got some of the
[32:54] adults, but like um I I also just think
[32:56] this movie didn't have a big enough
[32:57] star. It was missing one big star and it
[33:00] was Skeletor and he's he was a big
[33:03] question mark man who didn't do any of
[33:04] the promotion for the movie but like
[33:06] >> they should have cast Johnny Depp.
[33:09] [laughter]
[33:09] >> Yeah, exactly. Johnny Depp
[33:11] >> or Jonathan Major
[33:12] >> and Idris. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,
[33:14] Idris Ela also in it but not really
[33:16] featured in the market like exactly an
[33:18] A-list guy. Yeah.
[33:20] >> No, he does commercials for Gold now.
[33:22] Like I like and I think he's great in
[33:25] this movie, but I don't think he feels
[33:26] like a big
[33:28] >> movie star kind of guy. Honestly, like
[33:31] I'm pretty sure I remember I don't
[33:33] remember if this was a thing, but like I
[33:34] I think about this movie a lot because
[33:36] it's coming out later this year is like
[33:39] um the Street Fighter movie with Noah
[33:41] Centineo. Not even, you know, I mean
[33:45] like we'll see how similar the roles
[33:46] are. Both jacked guys who are probably
[33:48] in in a similar age range. I think no
[33:50] CNO brings an audience with him to this
[33:53] that Nicholas Gallatine just doesn't and
[33:55] I think that may have helped this movie
[33:57] feel like a big deal because I think
[33:59] that's what gets people to the theaters
[34:01] movies that feel like a big deal whether
[34:02] it's people saying like oh this is back
[34:04] rooms this is the future of horror or
[34:05] whatever or like this is the big movie
[34:07] of the month this is you know He-Man and
[34:11] I know I think that's what they're
[34:12] trying to do really really really hard
[34:14] with Disclosure Day is make it feel like
[34:16] a big deal even though there's nothing
[34:18] in the movie or in the in the marketing
[34:20] that I feel like they've been like
[34:22] they've been having Stephen Spielberg go
[34:24] look at things and go this is my what
[34:25] from Indiana Jones and it's like this is
[34:27] just like this this is important. So
[34:29] >> yeah he's going on talk shows and saying
[34:31] aliens are real. I think that's about
[34:32] the
[34:33] >> which is an insane thing to Yeah.
[34:36] >> They should have done that with this
[34:37] one. They should have said aliens and
[34:38] cats and big giant guys with fists
[34:40] [clears throat] are real.
[34:41] >> Tommy, what were you going to say?
[34:43] >> Well, no. I I actually I pretty much
[34:45] disagree with that. I feel like this
[34:46] movie just didn't for the budget and
[34:50] scope of how big this production was, it
[34:52] never felt like this was a must-sea
[34:54] movie, even as a target probably
[34:57] audience member as a 42-y old man. And I
[34:59] also think that 42-y old men have like
[35:02] 12 to 13 year old children usually. And
[35:05] it was a tough sell. And there like it's
[35:07] just much easier to see it on streaming
[35:08] now when you have all of these giant
[35:11] films coming out. And I think, you know,
[35:14] the co the co-produced Amazon, it was
[35:17] co-produced by Amazon and Sony, right?
[35:19] This movie. Yeah.
[35:20] >> It's like that's going to inflate the
[35:22] budget. And it it anything under it
[35:25] popping off to like hundred million
[35:26] dollars this weekend is going to be
[35:28] probably reported as a failure. It
[35:31] obviously did bomb in a true sense, but
[35:34] I just feel like yeah, they struggled.
[35:35] They struggled to I think it was in the
[35:38] marketing. They didn't focus on the guy
[35:41] playing He-Man as like he's the next
[35:43] [clears throat] big star either. It
[35:44] wasn't like it was kind of just like
[35:46] >> yeah look we got this guy who kind of
[35:47] looks like He-Man and look Idris Elba's
[35:49] in this movie and you know look the girl
[35:51] from Riverdale's in this movie and Jared
[35:53] Leto Skeletor which we're kind of
[35:55] glossing over and there's lots of other
[35:56] fun cameos or you know character people
[35:59] who you know their face but you're right
[36:01] there was just no magnet that was like I
[36:03] got to see this movie. Nicholas
[36:05] Gladstein didn't host SNL last week. He
[36:07] didn't go on Hot Ones and like I think
[36:09] he could have. I mean, he couldn't have
[36:11] hosted SNL this week because it wasn't
[36:12] on, but like he could have done other
[36:13] stuff and I don't think he didn't want
[36:15] to or anything. It just feels like maybe
[36:18] priorities wise they were like, "We're
[36:19] going to kind of expect this isn't going
[36:22] to be as big of a movie for other
[36:24] reasons." I don't know. But this is why
[36:25] like I think if you had someone um I
[36:29] thrown out a bazillion names for this,
[36:30] but um uh who's like a just any any
[36:34] other Skeletor actor, let's say um well
[36:38] Mark Hamel's too. Mark Hamel's an easy
[36:39] one because he's already done it, but
[36:40] also like he doesn't also doesn't feel
[36:42] like a movie star. I'm just think it's
[36:43] somebody who is like,
[36:45] it doesn't matter. Somebody like that.
[36:46] >> Glenn Powell goes out does Skeletor then
[36:48] also he does press for Skeletor and it's
[36:50] like oh that's a movie star in that
[36:52] movie. That's a movie that I have to
[36:53] see.
[36:54] >> And he can make jokes about how my face
[36:55] is like this the whole time and you
[36:57] know.
[36:57] >> Right. Right.
[36:59] >> Yeah. And he gets to go out and say like
[37:00] I have this is my skeletal action figure
[37:02] I had when I was 10 and now I like
[37:04] having it because it's me and you know
[37:06] they didn't do I didn't see any of that.
[37:08] And yeah it's weird.
[37:09] >> I really hope
[37:10] >> very little appeals to nostalgia in the
[37:11] marketing too. But I don't think they
[37:12] had that much to appeal to nostalgia. I
[37:14] just hope they don't learn the wrong
[37:16] lesson, which is, oh, this bombed. From
[37:18] now on, we'll just drop our Amazon
[37:20] movies on Amazon. Because the the single
[37:23] best piece of marketing
[37:25] >> for a streaming whatever for for a movie
[37:28] going on streaming is having it run in
[37:30] theaters for four to six weeks. That and
[37:32] what they can do, even if this movie
[37:34] breaks even,
[37:35] >> essentially what that will do is it pays
[37:38] for you making this movie that you can
[37:40] now put on your streaming service. So, I
[37:41] hope they don't like take the bad box
[37:43] office as, "Oh, we won't do this again."
[37:45] No, really. It you just got your movie
[37:48] made for free and a really good free
[37:51] marketing campaign for having it run in
[37:52] theaters for four weeks. So, I I hope
[37:54] that
[37:54] >> Well, not free because they get half the
[37:55] gross to the theaters, but I think
[37:57] you're you're right. I mean, it was the
[37:58] same way with DVDs and Blu-rays when
[37:59] those were all the rage. um the movie
[38:02] they would they would basically break
[38:03] even on the big release of the movie but
[38:05] then the money's afterwards like you
[38:06] said on the comeback
[38:08] >> and all movies are hurting because
[38:11] >> they have trained the audience to go
[38:14] okay there are several good movies out
[38:16] right now this economy is [ __ ] I can
[38:19] only afford to maybe go see one and take
[38:22] my whole family because that's another
[38:24] thing this is a family movie that's a
[38:26] really expensive night out to take your
[38:28] family
[38:28] >> and no popcorn bucket Yeah, they had
[38:32] they had a popcorn bucket, didn't they?
[38:33] Popcorn buckets.
[38:35] Was it Battle? I didn't get
[38:38] >> They have a Battlecat Skeletor.
[38:44] >> I would have walked out with all
[38:46] >> Yeah, clearly clearly they had them all
[38:48] laid out on the counter at my theater.
[38:49] But no, it's just they have trained
[38:51] audiences that the movie is going to be
[38:53] on TV in four or five weeks, so we'll
[38:56] just wait and we'll watch it as a family
[38:58] and order some pizza, which you know
[39:00] sounds really appealing. So they're
[39:02] killing themselves by not having like a
[39:05] Didn't DVDs used to come out like six
[39:07] months after the movie was
[39:08] >> VHS would be years sometimes.
[39:10] >> Yeah. Yeah. ET took forever at Jurassic
[39:13] Park because they were still in the
[39:15] theater.
[39:15] >> It was almost an event when the DVD came
[39:17] out. It was like the movie was coming
[39:19] out all over again.
[39:20] >> It literally was because also DVDs were
[39:22] packed with extras too that made it even
[39:24] more fun to go back and watch them.
[39:25] Sorry to go ahead.
[39:26] >> I was going to say too, the other thing
[39:28] about movies and what they're trying to
[39:30] do now that this movie also didn't seem
[39:32] to do. And I'm looking backwards, I'm
[39:34] like, "Oh, this was a mistake." Because
[39:35] I do think one of for me the strengths
[39:37] of this movie uh outside of a lot of the
[39:40] stuff that I like that are just like
[39:41] things that kind of are are funny or
[39:43] whatever design-wise, I think this movie
[39:44] had a pretty sick score. uh the Daniel
[39:46] Peton like
[39:48] >> I feel like a lot of the times when a
[39:50] movie has a really good score they
[39:52] advertise it as like the movie you have
[39:54] to see in Dolby sound system or whatever
[39:57] and that's why all the movies now are
[39:58] pretend or not pretending but are like
[40:00] film this with IMAX like we filmed
[40:01] Mandalorian with IMAX even if it's not
[40:03] going to look that great in IMAX is cuz
[40:05] like that is something special that you
[40:07] can't get at home and like I feel like
[40:09] it's we looking back it's crazy that I
[40:12] learned that Brian is it Brian I did the
[40:15] guitars for this movie
[40:17] >> at the movie during the credits for the
[40:19] movie. Like that was my selling point
[40:21] earlier in the movie cuz like I earlier
[40:24] in the releases u and he wasn't on TV
[40:27] talking about it like
[40:28] >> yeah I don't know man Amazon they made
[40:31] Project Hail Mary so they're doing great
[40:33] and I'm sure they're having an you know
[40:35] they've got some interesting stuff for
[40:36] the rest of the year but I'll never
[40:37] understand some of these decisions.
[40:40] >> Colton you made a good point. You talked
[40:41] about how people are being trained to
[40:42] not go to the theater anymore. And this
[40:44] is where something really interesting
[40:46] happened. I'm really proud of you.
[40:47] >> Something really interesting is
[40:48] happening, too. And this is why, and I
[40:50] made this about franchise fatigue. So,
[40:52] let me bring this up. We got a little
[40:53] thing here, but I'll just read some of
[40:54] these grosses out to you. So,
[40:56] >> um,
[40:57] >> if you Oh, we don't have numbers on
[41:00] this, but we're looking at like the
[41:01] highest grossing films of the 2010s. Um,
[41:04] and they're pretty much the usual
[41:06] players Avengers etc. Frozen all
[41:08] these franchises. this year. Uh, sorry.
[41:12] In 2025, last year, um, we had some new
[41:16] ones pop in there. Demon Slayer, F1,
[41:18] things like that. However,
[41:20] >> uh, sorry, I thought we had a slide of
[41:22] this one, but listen to like some of
[41:24] these Fast and F. So, the Fast and
[41:26] Furious is one of the biggest franchises
[41:28] of all time. It doesn't feel that way,
[41:29] but it is. Um, fast and it was on such a
[41:33] big increase from the fourth movie and
[41:35] like when Justin Lynn got on board and
[41:36] really started to make these movies. The
[41:38] fourth movie did 359. The fifth movie,
[41:41] which I think is the best in the
[41:42] franchise, did 629. Number six did 789.
[41:46] Furious 7, fueled partly because of
[41:48] curiosity about Paul Walker dying, did
[41:50] $1.5 billion,
[41:53] >> which is [ __ ] insane considering it
[41:56] was a Point Break ripoff where they
[41:58] stole DVDs from a semi-truck. DVD
[42:00] players.
[42:00] >> Was that 2014, the seventh one?
[42:04] >> Yeah. And then Fate of the Furious, the
[42:06] worst I've seen, is 1.1 billion. Hobs
[42:08] and Shaw, which doesn't really count,
[42:10] 76, but they have decreased every single
[42:13] time. And these movies are really big
[42:14] and really expensive to make. And the
[42:16] same thing has happened with Mission
[42:17] Impossible, where Mission Impossible
[42:19] Fallout, which I think came out in not
[42:21] 2012, but like around the same time
[42:22] you're mentioning, Colton, 2017 maybe,
[42:25] >> did 786 million. And then Dead Reckoning
[42:30] Part One 565 and then hilariously titled
[42:33] The Final Reckoning did 591. So it
[42:35] didn't even get we'll never get Dead
[42:37] Reckoning part two.
[42:38] >> So then you're kind of looking at you do
[42:41] see a line of these big franchises maybe
[42:44] getting stale for audiences because they
[42:46] know what to expect. You guys think it's
[42:47] that or do you think it's the well I got
[42:49] this big shiny screen at home. I can see
[42:51] it there.
[42:53] >> It 20 The reason I ask is like 2014
[42:56] right right in there. I would say going
[42:58] from like 2011 is probably when it
[43:02] started
[43:03] through that through like 2018
[43:07] might be the what the best time for
[43:09] movies ever in terms of theatrical box
[43:11] office like that the amount of billion
[43:14] dollar
[43:14] >> 2019 I think you have to lump in there
[43:16] too.
[43:17] >> Yeah. I mean we had like Lion King that
[43:19] year and Yeah.
[43:20] >> Yeah. just a rapid incline from like the
[43:22] the early 2010s up through and then we
[43:25] hit that year where a certain thing
[43:26] happened and we just we've recovered a
[43:29] little bit from it but
[43:31] >> it really
[43:33] that trained people to stay home as well
[43:35] and realize like oh I can just watch
[43:37] stuff here being stuck at home
[43:39] >> because the last time in American
[43:41] history when that happened was with the
[43:44] Spanish flu you know from 1918 to the
[43:45] early 1920s and obviously very different
[43:48] because back then you were wealthy if
[43:50] you had a radio in your hut or whatever
[43:52] Americans lived in back [laughter] then.
[43:54] But now we've got this great home
[43:56] entertainment and streaming, you know,
[43:58] you know, coincided with all of this
[44:00] happening. Whereas like in the late
[44:02] 1800s when the Spanish flu was finally
[44:04] done, we got the roaring 20s afterwards.
[44:06] You know, we we got people basically
[44:08] wanting to be out and doing more. That's
[44:09] when movies first exploded. So there was
[44:11] like an explosion of people who were in
[44:13] very public places with each other and
[44:15] they wanted to be, you know, part of
[44:17] that camaraderie and seeing different
[44:18] things. And now I thought the same thing
[44:20] would happen after the pandemic, but
[44:22] you're right. It made us even more
[44:24] isolated than we were before. A
[44:26] >> and people just aren't interest, this is
[44:28] very anecdotal, but I I I have trouble
[44:30] finding people who really even watch
[44:32] that many movies like in my day-to-day
[44:35] life like
[44:36] >> because of TV shows or because of
[44:39] >> shows and this and yeah, just it's not
[44:43] >> I don't know. It's like it's not a a
[44:45] thing any like it's not a cool thing
[44:48] that people are interested in anymore. I
[44:50] know that's you know very broadly
[44:52] speaking but
[44:54] >> well Marsha McLuhan a great media
[44:56] analyst um and philosopher said the
[44:59] medium is the message. In other words
[45:01] you know if you really want to
[45:02] understand a society you don't just look
[45:04] at what kinds of things they're
[45:06] consuming because people in America like
[45:09] cop shows and doctor shows are always
[45:11] the most popular genre. uh you look at
[45:13] how they're consuming it and that tells
[45:14] you more about a society. So a society
[45:16] that's more isolated from each other uh
[45:18] lives a little bit more digitally that's
[45:20] consuming things in you know one minute
[45:23] sections instead of like committing to
[45:25] like a long process or who can't watch
[45:28] one thing at a time you know speaks to
[45:30] anxiety of a society because your screen
[45:31] is up and you're on this screen too
[45:33] because you don't you're afraid you're
[45:34] going to miss out on something. So
[45:36] >> there's a lot that's happening there.
[45:37] Um, however, I still think He-Man was
[45:40] fun and people should have watched it.
[45:42] >> I I agree. And I also think that like
[45:45] >> I I think that there is a bubble to this
[45:48] isolation too. Like I think that there I
[45:51] think that the the isolation we live in
[45:54] now presents as like a simulated
[45:56] connectivity because of our smartphones.
[45:59] And I think that like
[46:00] >> it's a pain. It's like we're at a pain
[46:02] point with it in every area, not just
[46:04] media consumption. And it's like, yeah,
[46:06] but I'm not isolated because I can
[46:09] comment on a video or I can text someone
[46:10] or I can call them.
[46:12] >> And I think that like
[46:14] >> while it might feel painful for some of
[46:16] us right now, it certainly does feel
[46:17] painful for me. I do think that that
[46:20] will cause a yearning again for like
[46:23] literal connectivity or like in-person
[46:26] connectivity. Yeah. And I don't think
[46:27] that like movie theaters are dead. And I
[46:29] think that like neither
[46:30] >> that is a sexy thing to put out in a
[46:33] tweet and that might be a sexy video to
[46:35] make, but I think that like things are
[46:37] cyclical and right now we are we my
[46:41] generation became a generation that like
[46:43] raised themselves in adulthood on their
[46:45] devices and their phones. But I also see
[46:47] that like we are also able to look down
[46:50] at the next generation and see how it is
[46:52] affecting them and kind of be judgmental
[46:53] about it while we're just as guilty. And
[46:56] I think that how that evolves is like
[46:58] there are kids now that don't want to be
[47:00] filmed. Like there you start to see kids
[47:02] rebelling against like they're like I
[47:04] don't need I don't need to be online.
[47:06] Like my nephew and this is anecdotal
[47:08] like Colton was saying before like he's
[47:10] anti-technology because of how pervasive
[47:12] it was in his childhood. He's 17 years
[47:14] old and he wants nothing to do with his
[47:16] phone. He wants nothing to do with
[47:17] >> analog,
[47:18] >> right? And I think like this is what
[47:20] happens. bubbles blow up and blow up and
[47:22] blow and seem like they'll never end and
[47:24] then they burst. And my hope is that
[47:26] when that bubble bursts, people will
[47:27] return to the theaters. People will
[47:29] return to wanting to see each other in
[47:31] person. And you know, I like to be
[47:33] optimistic. So maybe you could say that
[47:35] I'm I'm dumb and AI is going to, you
[47:37] know, send me a message saying I need to
[47:38] disengage with that. But I don't know.
[47:40] I'm optimistic.
[47:42] >> Well, to your point, okay, so movie
[47:43] theater attendance is down. Music is
[47:46] flourishing. Concerts are doing great.
[47:48] people are going out for that shared
[47:50] experience. It is interesting though
[47:52] going to concerts now as opposed to
[47:53] maybe a decade ago because I think the
[47:55] kids are a lot more aware that they're
[47:57] always being filmed and nobody wants to
[47:59] get too silly.
[48:00] >> Uh nobody wants to like be a meme or
[48:03] become the next Star Wars kid. So
[48:04] everybody's a little bit more restricted
[48:06] even in public.
[48:07] >> We got some super chats here I want to
[48:08] get. There's a couple really interesting
[48:09] ones in here I want to get your
[48:10] everybody's thoughts on. Arman gave us5
[48:12] pounds and said I actually bought a
[48:14] cinema card this summer. So many good
[48:16] movies coming out so close to each
[48:17] other. It's just economical. Masters of
[48:19] the Universe was only okay though. I
[48:21] don't think it's I Look, Masters of the
[48:23] Universe wasn't the next Barbie. It
[48:24] wasn't even the next Thunderbolts, but I
[48:27] still enjoyed the movie. Do you guys
[48:29] feel that way about the summer box
[48:30] office? What's coming up? Go ahead,
[48:31] Andrew. What's your question?
[48:32] >> Oh, I want to relate that to that. How
[48:33] does how does the movie theater
[48:36] subscription fit into box office
[48:40] anything? Like if like how does that
[48:43] because if I have a subscription to see
[48:46] four movies a month and I see Masters of
[48:48] the Universe four times like how does
[48:50] that
[48:51] >> you know
[48:52] >> and I don't understand I've never heard
[48:54] you know anybody explain.
[48:55] >> My guess would be it could work like
[48:56] YouTube Premium where you get paid based
[48:59] on how many YouTube Premium numbers
[49:01] members watch your thing. My guess would
[49:04] be you know how movie theaters take half
[49:05] the gross of the ticket up front then
[49:07] it's like it grows over time. Uh, it's
[49:09] actually No, sorry. It's more than half.
[49:10] It gets to half. No, that's wrong. It
[49:13] starts at half or around there. My guess
[49:14] is they're paying the studio.
[49:17] >> I would think they'd have to That's a
[49:19] really great question because like the
[49:20] AMC one, I forget what it's called, AMC
[49:23] Stubs or something,
[49:24] >> right? Or something.
[49:26] >> That one it pays. If you see more than
[49:28] like I think they just upped their
[49:30] prices, but before they up their prices,
[49:32] if you saw even like one movie, it
[49:34] already paid for itself. Now I think
[49:35] maybe it's like
[49:36] >> That's just it. Yeah, that's what they
[49:37] do though. It's like every other
[49:39] technological thing, they they loop you
[49:41] in a really low introductory. Yeah,
[49:42] exactly.
[49:43] >> It's like a
[49:44] >> or like Uber or like anything else.
[49:46] Every startup starts you really low so
[49:48] you'll forget about the subscription.
[49:49] Which is why honestly I use Rocket
[49:51] Money. Rocket Money is great for
[49:54] [laughter]
[49:54] I speak an ad. I can't stop it. Every
[49:57] time I'm like right in the middle,
[49:58] someone's telling me their worst problem
[49:59] that's happened to them. I'm like, "Oh
[50:01] god, they should be in therapy." And I
[50:02] have just the recommendation for it.
[50:04] Sean Holtzgra gave us five bucks and
[50:06] said, "Doug deserves a treat with my
[50:07] name on it." He actually sent that when
[50:09] I was talking about Doug not feeling the
[50:10] vaccine. And Sean, I will definitely
[50:13] give that um to them. Thank you so much.
[50:16] And Christian Unpronouncable, longtime
[50:18] friend of the channel, give us five
[50:19] Canadian dollars. Come on people, drop
[50:21] those likes for one of your favorite
[50:22] streamers.
[50:23] >> A
[50:24] >> Yeah. I mean, find your favorite
[50:25] streamer if they're streaming right now
[50:27] and drop them a like. And if it happens,
[50:28] >> he usible.
[50:34] Arman gave us another five pounds and
[50:36] said, "Hi, young guy here, 20. Um, I did
[50:41] not like this movie. It felt restrained.
[50:43] It's like Sonic 1. The villain was the
[50:45] best part, but Jared is not Jim Carrey.
[50:49] >> Jim Carrey Skeletor.
[50:51] >> Jim Carrey Skeletor.
[50:53] >> Jim Carrey Skeletor is honestly, how did
[50:55] they not do that?"
[50:57] >> Yeah. And that was I feel like a big
[50:59] part of why the Sonic movie felt big
[51:01] because it was his return to like this.
[51:03] Like
[51:03] >> I don't know if you could have gotten
[51:05] Mike Myers or something like that, but
[51:06] another comedian of that era who hasn't
[51:09] done this in a while. Yeah. And like
[51:11] >> you know or even Adam Sandler I think
[51:13] could have done something. But just like
[51:16] it needed to have that
[51:18] >> it needed to be a moment. Oh Jack,
[51:21] >> don't give it to Jack Black's in too
[51:22] much [ __ ] Sorry. No screen.
[51:26] I've got one.
[51:27] >> Okay.
[51:28] >> Robert Downey Jr.
[51:30] >> Why not? Yeah,
[51:32] >> I've got one.
[51:33] >> And he's a variant of Doom. [laughter]
[51:39] >> And Skeletor, go woke, go broke.
[51:42] [laughter]
[51:45] >> My face looks like this from the
[51:46] vaccines.
[51:48] >> [laughter]
[51:49] >> Yeah, it's like I feel like we will have
[51:51] a and and I it's going to be,
[51:54] >> you know, I'm I'm curious to see how
[51:55] this movie um ages because I don't think
[51:59] it's necessarily I've I've heard a
[52:00] couple people call it the new the next
[52:03] Speedraer. I don't think it's quite
[52:04] there, but I do think it's a movie that
[52:06] in a decade will get like people will
[52:08] look back on it and go, "Oh, that was a
[52:10] lot of fun." And it's weird that that
[52:12] bombed right next to this other thing
[52:14] that's now the biggest thing on Earth.
[52:16] Is there a chance?
[52:18] >> Oh, Bill.
[52:18] >> Oh, yeah. He would have been great.
[52:20] >> Is there a chance that this is gonna
[52:21] fall in the same kind of category as
[52:23] that Dungeons and Dragons movie a few
[52:25] years ago that was like super fun and
[52:28] really good? It should have started a
[52:30] franchise in a un You're right. Yeah.
[52:32] Sorry, Tom. I'm just asking.
[52:33] >> Yeah, sure.
[52:35] >> Elephantis. I I don't know.
[52:39] >> Melissa McCarthy
[52:41] [laughter] told not even joking.
[52:44] I I think the movie could have legs. I
[52:47] mean, it is just early June.
[52:49] >> Yeah.
[52:49] >> Kids are out for school. True.
[52:52] >> Maybe it'll have some legs, but I
[52:53] thought the same thing about uh
[52:55] Mandalorian and Grou. [laughter]
[52:57] >> It dropped like 70%.
[52:58] >> Dropped way worse than I thought it
[53:00] would. I think it dropped
[53:02] >> worse than Ant-Man Quantania. I think
[53:04] Ant-Man Conttoania was like a 69%
[53:06] >> and then this was at 74, which shocked
[53:08] me.
[53:09] >> Maybe it was 82. It was bad.
[53:12] >> It dropped 69.4. four or something like
[53:14] that. I think Quantum Mania was
[53:18] it was like high 50s. Yeah, it was not
[53:20] good or
[53:20] >> Yeah, it was really bad. No, it was
[53:22] higher 50s, I think. But anyway,
[53:24] >> uh the Stas 2049 gave us five bucks and
[53:26] said, "This movie doesn't need to make a
[53:28] billion dollars to be successful. It
[53:30] works for us Gen Xers. That's enough to
[53:32] be a success." Well, well, I think
[53:33] He-Man is a success in my heart. I'm
[53:35] sure Amazon would also like more of our
[53:37] money, too. Um,
[53:38] >> yeah, that's the tough part is like how
[53:40] do you make cheaper,
[53:42] >> you know, like what is the budget
[53:43] version of this movie? It really kind of
[53:45] doesn't exist.
[53:46] >> I think the budget
[53:48] >> Yeah, I think we saw the budget version
[53:50] of
[53:50] >> It's in 1987. Yeah, you get
[53:52] >> Well, how what was the budget on this
[53:54] movie?
[53:56] >> Probably maybe something like that.
[53:59] >> Is it just me or did it feel a little
[54:04] >> felt like a streaming movie a little
[54:05] bit? Look movie
[54:07] >> reported production budget between 170
[54:11] and 200 million because it needed to
[54:13] make around two and a half times its
[54:14] budget to break even. The film's poor
[54:15] opening makes it one of the summer box
[54:17] office big swaps.
[54:18] >> Well, I bet Skeletor was
[54:19] >> according to Google AI answer which
[54:21] takes from the Wikipedia article right
[54:22] underneath it.
[54:23] >> I gota turn off.
[54:25] >> Yeah, Idris Elba probably wasn't cheap
[54:28] and all the CG probably wasn't cheap.
[54:30] It's probably
[54:31] >> that was the CG. Yeah, definitely the
[54:33] CG. Dolph London's cameo. probably paid
[54:35] them. Um, Jordan Enrique gave us $5 and
[54:39] said, "A big family in front of me at
[54:40] the theater bought tickets to Scary
[54:42] Movie Six."
[54:44] >> And that's your target audience. Maybe
[54:46] it was Scary Movie Six that stepped on
[54:48] the toes.
[54:49] >> That came out this week. Okay. Yeah, I
[54:51] have no interest in that movie. I think
[54:52] a movie
[54:53] >> decent reviews. Hey, the first one was I
[54:54] mean the first two were funny and then
[54:56] amazing
[54:58] >> or The Ways Brothers left the Zucker. I
[55:00] think this one is I think a movie like
[55:03] Scary Movie gets people that don't
[55:05] normally go to the movies to go to the
[55:07] movie. You know what I mean? Like I feel
[55:09] like a lot of teenagers might go see
[55:11] Scary Movie just
[55:12] >> because like and you know they're loud
[55:14] throughout the movie and don't really
[55:16] even watch it. But
[55:17] >> Oh my god. Could you yell at the cloud
[55:19] louder Colton?
[55:21] >> Well, you know, I go and I saw the
[55:24] teenagers there and they were being loud
[55:26] and I don't like it.
[55:28] >> They are. There's so theater etiquette
[55:31] does not exist.
[55:32] >> Oh, I agree. No, I'm making fun of you.
[55:34] I'm always the guy who finds an usher
[55:36] and complains like there is someone on
[55:38] their phone have to do something.
[55:41] >> Dude, I was this my wife stopped me. I
[55:43] was like, I'm going to lean over and ask
[55:44] them if they plan on talking the entire
[55:46] movie. And she was like, just go tell
[55:48] the usher. I'm like, fine.
[55:50] >> I've done that so many time. I've yelled
[55:51] shut the [ __ ] up in theaters before. I
[55:53] have absolutely been that guy. It's not
[55:55] a fun position to be in.
[55:56] >> What about mashed potatoes? Have you
[55:58] ever had somebody try to talk to you
[56:00] that you're with and you'd have to be
[56:01] like,
[56:01] >> "Oh, yeah.
[56:02] >> Shut up."
[56:03] >> Yeah. [laughter]
[56:04] >> No, but seriously.
[56:05] >> Yeah. Shut up.
[56:06] >> And we used to see a lot of theater,
[56:07] too. And like that would you bring in
[56:09] visitors from out of town, you're like
[56:11] >> I said that to my nephew. He kept
[56:13] throwing it away.
[56:14] >> He kept asking me questions on a movie.
[56:16] And by like the fourth time, like at
[56:17] first I was like, "You got to whisper,
[56:19] buddy. You got to like the fourth time
[56:20] I'm like, "Stop talking." [laughter]
[56:22] >> Yeah.
[56:23] >> I mean, with kids, it's different. I
[56:25] mean, I don't know. a kid like
[56:26] especially in a kids movie. If you go
[56:28] see like I don't know Finding Dory is
[56:30] probably the last time I was in a movie
[56:31] and I was like wow there's children in
[56:33] this room.
[56:33] >> They get a pass. You know,
[56:35] >> I will say one of my core memories as a
[56:37] child was my father taking a full phone
[56:40] call in the early like [laughter]
[56:42] origin days of cell phones during a
[56:44] screening of the Santa Claus with Tim
[56:46] Allen. He took a COMPLETE PHONE CALL ON
[56:50] A massive brick style [laughter] cell
[56:51] phone
[56:52] >> in 1995. Yeah, he probably had an
[56:55] antenna with him, too.
[56:56] >> He did. It was insanity. And nobody
[56:59] batted an eyelash because I think
[57:00] they're all dazzled that a man had this
[57:02] contraction in the theater. But it was
[57:04] uh I'll never forget the embarrassment
[57:06] that I felt. [laughter]
[57:09] >> Mashed potatoes gave us two bucks and
[57:11] said Jared Leto strikes again. He really
[57:13] is. He's worse box office poison than
[57:16] Carrot Top to quote.
[57:17] >> Does he have other stuff in the future
[57:19] that we can like bet against somehow or
[57:22] something like that? those predictive
[57:23] [laughter] markets.
[57:24] >> What's the rest of his his cuz he's so
[57:27] like and I feel like eventually it's one
[57:30] of those things where like it's going to
[57:31] take time for the kind of producers to
[57:33] react to like this. So I can see why
[57:35] there's a couple of years of this
[57:37] happening but eventually it's got to
[57:38] burst right like there's going to
[57:40] >> Yeah. The thing is though, if you want
[57:42] to bet like that, Poly Market offers a
[57:44] great
[57:44] >> Oh, God. No. That's the one.
[57:46] >> They've got to do one of those. Long
[57:47] story.
[57:48] >> They've got to do a three Joker's film
[57:50] adaptation and bring or a Batman No Way
[57:53] Home. Do Batman.
[57:54] >> That is the That is the worst Batman. I
[57:58] hate that story. Anyways, Operation
[58:00] Spider gave us five Australian dollars
[58:02] and said with He-Man flopping, what does
[58:04] this mean for other 1990s IP or or
[58:07] 1900's IP? [laughter]
[58:09] 1990s. God,
[58:10] >> he actually wrote 1900's IP. So,
[58:13] basically for the Al Jolson movie that
[58:15] all the kids were looking forward to as
[58:16] well, the entire century. I'm looking
[58:18] forward to the supposed Power Rangers
[58:20] reboot, but I doubt if it's How many
[58:22] reboots of the Power Rangers have we
[58:23] gotten at this point? But the franchise
[58:25] is still Ghost even though they're not
[58:27] >> Yeah,
[58:29] there's anything from the 1900s that can
[58:31] really go and like would have legs in an
[58:33] adaptation. I mean, it's a question of
[58:36] like what because and I have this
[58:38] question or I ask this question a lot
[58:39] about um Harry Potter is like do kids
[58:42] now does a 10-year-old now know what
[58:44] Harry Potter is and care and it's that
[58:46] with Power Rangers and it's that with
[58:48] like it could be that with Spider-Man.
[58:50] The answer to Spider-Man is yes cuz they
[58:52] keep making cartoons and the movies keep
[58:53] kind of hitting but like with
[58:56] generational as well,
[58:58] >> right? Yeah. There's a lot of like that
[59:00] and that's why with this one I kind of
[59:01] see how where the gap was where people
[59:04] just weren't really thinking about
[59:05] Masters of the Universe very much. But
[59:08] um yeah, I don't know like Transformers
[59:10] can Transformers get back there because
[59:12] they're kind of you know Ninja Turtles
[59:14] they're kind of that last movie. But
[59:16] when Transformers came out in 2005, that
[59:19] was only 20 years after their their
[59:21] heyday in the 80s. And we had had, you
[59:24] know, Beast Wars and some other shows
[59:26] that were less successful, but that
[59:27] franchise had had I'm telling you, like
[59:29] He-Man Toys, you there's a great
[59:30] documentary episode of the toys that
[59:32] made us about this. They just overnight
[59:34] dropped off a cliff. Like I remember
[59:35] even as a kid being like, I'm good.
[59:37] >> And it was crazy how that happened. I
[59:40] feel like this movie came out like I
[59:43] don't know five 10 years too late
[59:45] because we've moved on
[59:47] >> we've moved on to to 90s is the
[59:49] nostalgia film now that that's where
[59:51] they're going cuz we had that little
[59:53] trend where you know they were pulling
[59:54] from 80s stuff but now we're kind of
[59:56] >> usually every 20 years fashion is in 20
[59:58] years cycles
[59:59] >> like Ryan you're the target demo for I
[60:02] mean right because you're what like
[60:04] mid-40s right like you're
[60:05] >> Oh no no no I'm the he they made the
[60:08] trailer for me. Yeah. I know. Yeah, it
[60:10] said some Watch this Ryan at the end of
[60:11] it 100%.
[60:12] >> You know what what I want to see is a
[60:17] like seven style cop thriller about a
[60:21] criminal profiler that has to find a
[60:24] serial killer amongst a a crowd a
[60:27] diverse crowd of people.
[60:29] I'll guess who the game and he just has
[60:32] to [laughter] go down and then at the
[60:34] end there's just a guy standing like in
[60:37] a in Time Square sipping sipping a diet
[60:40] coke eating a hot dog and HE'S LIKE
[60:41] YOU'RE TOM AND THEN
[60:43] >> but but you laugh but this okay so this
[60:46] keeps happening in Hollywood though
[60:47] because there was going to be a Monopoly
[60:49] movie made by Ridley Scott around the
[60:50] time they made Battleship right there
[60:52] was going to be um oh oh give me a
[60:54] second um let's see the oh yeah the
[60:58] other franchise They were developing for
[61:00] a little bit. They were diving headlong
[61:01] into 80s stuff. In the 90s, it was
[61:03] remakes of TV shows from the 50s for
[61:06] some reason. Beverly Hillbillies and the
[61:07] Brady Bunch. Like that's when they were
[61:09] doing all of that.
[61:10] >> Yeah. Bewitched, right? So that was a
[61:12] big thing for a little bit. It really is
[61:14] somebody does it successful, everybody
[61:15] else hops on board. And I think He-Man
[61:18] in part because it's also Mattel is
[61:19] people going, "Oh, well, what other toys
[61:21] and properties are there?"
[61:23] >> And this is a big sign that it won't
[61:24] keep going.
[61:25] >> A Monopoly movie would be brilliant. You
[61:28] could do like Wolf of Wall Street, like
[61:30] Moneyball type of movie with Monopoly.
[61:31] >> The thing they were going to do. Yeah,
[61:33] they you go they went into Monopoly
[61:34] world. It was actually a little bit like
[61:36] what we got with Barbie. Um
[61:38] >> I believe. But yeah, really.
[61:41] >> Yeah.
[61:41] >> I would have liked to have seen an
[61:42] Oliver Stone Monopoly movie. That would
[61:44] be
[61:45] >> conspiracies.
[61:47] Yeah.
[61:48] >> Park place is owned by the Saudis.
[61:50] Follow the oil money. [laughter]
[61:54] Mikeu gave us two about three bucks
[61:57] Canadian and said Letto felt like the
[61:59] worst part and the dialogue. I mean
[62:01] again I liked Leto in the movie but
[62:03] >> I thought Skeletor was the best part of
[62:05] the movie. Yeah.
[62:06] >> Yeah.
[62:07] >> See Skeletor tough though because I do
[62:08] think he feels like the he feels like
[62:10] out of out of all the characters the
[62:12] most weediny character where he is the
[62:15] character who's like I'm doing a
[62:16] monologue now. You guys should laugh at
[62:18] my monologue. And I still do find those
[62:20] bits entertaining, but I don't
[62:22] necessarily think he fit with what like
[62:25] Alison Brie was doing, which I do think
[62:26] I like more. And like I think that
[62:28] really really on like ontarget campy
[62:32] version of uh Evelyn Eivelyn. Um feels
[62:36] like it's it's in a different like I
[62:39] don't know, it's a different space. Um
[62:41] but you know, I also think anybody else
[62:43] could have done that that Skeletor.
[62:45] That's my la last kind of you give
[62:47] anybody with charisma that role and
[62:49] they'll get you something as good as
[62:50] that cuz it's Skeletor. He's like so
[62:52] agreeing weird.
[62:54] >> Any voice actor really could have done
[62:57] >> and shout out shout out the script then
[62:59] because we're all praising Skeletor and
[63:00] we're saying it's in spite of
[63:02] >> Ryan. I am shocked by the lack of
[63:04] Allison Brie commentary from you.
[63:06] >> I love Alison Brie, man. She's great.
[63:07] [laughter] Loved her in community. Had
[63:09] the biggest crush on her. I think she's
[63:11] just great in this movie. She can do
[63:12] anything. Low deserved a fifth season.
[63:14] That was her prestige drama. And uh I
[63:16] think if they have to recast She-Hulk,
[63:18] it should be her. I think she's
[63:19] fantastic.
[63:19] >> Oh, that would be something. Yeah.
[63:21] >> Apparently, we walked by her in an
[63:23] airport once and I didn't see her and I
[63:24] was like, "You've got to be [ __ ]
[63:25] kidding me." Anyways, [clears throat] Q
[63:27] Man, WPG gave us 10 Canadian dollars.
[63:29] This will be our last super chat, I
[63:30] think. Well, I thought Masters of the
[63:31] Universe was okay. Letto being my
[63:33] favorite part. I feel the franchise
[63:35] recognition also played a part. Could
[63:36] there be another Mattel franchise they
[63:38] could mash it up with for a potential
[63:40] sequel? Well,
[63:41] >> why did they call it Masters of the Uni?
[63:43] Why didn't they call it He-Man? Nobody
[63:45] knows what the [ __ ] Masters of the
[63:47] Universe is.
[63:48] >> Because the show was called He-Man and
[63:49] the M It's fine. It's a long story, but
[63:51] yeah, valid point.
[63:55] >> Yeah. Why does Why does the show not
[63:58] just called He-Man? Like He-Man's
[63:59] clearly the guy. I feel like there's
[64:01] something connected to the idea of
[64:03] He-Man that is unpalatable to people.
[64:06] But I mean, it's still better than
[64:08] calling Masters of the Universe. But
[64:10] yeah, they asked about other Mattel
[64:11] properties that could do this.
[64:13] >> Yeah. Or just whatever. Yeah. I mean,
[64:15] you can expand past that.
[64:18] >> Yeah. What would have been cool is, you
[64:20] know, you do
[64:21] >> the Ninja Turtles, G.I. Joe,
[64:23] Transformers, and Masters of the
[64:25] Universe. But I think Transformers and
[64:28] G.I. Joe. That's Hasbro, right? And then
[64:30] you have Matt. Yeah. So,
[64:32] >> they were going to do a crossover for a
[64:34] long time. That was the plan. I think
[64:35] >> you could do an Avengers kind of movie.
[64:37] Have He-Man be the Thor. You bring in
[64:40] Snake Eyes. You bring in uh Bumblebee
[64:44] and which one of the turtles? Maybe
[64:46] Michael. Oh god, I'm getting really
[64:48] excited. Bring in a Power Ranger, too.
[64:50] >> Looking at the list of them now, if I
[64:52] had to call some of these I'm like,
[64:53] okay, this is a movie that this could be
[64:55] a movie. American Girl doll that's owned
[64:57] by Mattel. That could be a movie. It's
[64:58] not one I
[64:59] >> And the movie rights are owned by a lot
[65:01] of them by Paramount that you just
[65:02] named, too. I think they have Ninja
[65:03] Turtles and Transformers and G.I. Joe.
[65:06] So that's true that and also I mean if
[65:10] if it goes through Warner Brothers and
[65:11] Paramount same thing Warner Brothers has
[65:13] Barbie. I mean
[65:14] >> but the thing is my whole point is I
[65:16] think people don't give a [ __ ] about
[65:17] that kind of thing anymore. I think even
[65:19] like in terms of the MCU,
[65:21] >> um the only reason the big crossover
[65:22] movies worked is because we enjoyed the
[65:24] previous movies and we were eager to see
[65:26] these people who we liked in Iraq. And
[65:28] somewhere along the line, I kind of feel
[65:30] like that got shuffled away, not just
[65:31] with the MCU, but with a lot of these um
[65:34] you know, Fast and Furious jumping the
[65:36] shark, aka the nuclear submarine in the
[65:38] Arctic. But anyways, I could go on, but
[65:40] we should probably wrap up there.
[65:42] >> American Girl dolls should be a horror
[65:43] movie.
[65:44] >> Oh, that'd be interesting. Yeah,
[65:46] >> I'm a [snorts] little disappointed in
[65:47] that subg genre as well. The blood and
[65:49] honeys and stuff like that not being any
[65:51] good. That's a fun idea.
[65:51] >> Those are trash. But
[65:52] >> Peter Pan is like ripe for it.
[65:55] >> Last thought on the on the Mattel stuff
[65:57] because I do I'm s not surprised because
[65:59] I'm sure they've been working on this
[66:01] for a while like a He-Man movie. I feel
[66:03] like the for me the obvious move was
[66:06] this is the movie you put Ken in. Have
[66:08] Ken travel to the He-Man universe and
[66:09] learn about masculinity from the other
[66:11] toys that are there.
[66:13] >> And that's your kind of here's a movie
[66:14] star. here's an event. Like that's what
[66:17] this movie was lacking. It's a different
[66:18] movie, but um I feel like there's
[66:20] something there uh that, you know, we'll
[66:24] see what they end up doing with those
[66:25] because I'm I'm sure they want to spin
[66:27] Barbie in other directions so they can
[66:28] get the most out of that and
[66:30] >> and I'm sure they never can because I
[66:32] don't think anyone in that cast will do
[66:33] it unless it's a different Ken like I
[66:35] can see that
[66:36] >> they have been trying to make this movie
[66:37] forever. Didn't Kevin Smith like pin a
[66:40] script for this or something?
[66:41] >> Well, he Yeah. And he did the Netflix
[66:43] series. Yeah.
[66:43] >> Yeah.
[66:44] >> Yeah. other people have over the years
[66:45] too and since the 20s I remember reading
[66:46] about this in um Wizard magazine like in
[66:49] the 2000s they were trying to get this
[66:51] done and I think instead what we're
[66:52] going to get instead of like a big
[66:54] sprawling Masters of the Universe
[66:55] cinematic universe what we're likely
[66:57] going to get
[66:58] >> is something more time she well we're
[67:01] going to get Shira no matter what I
[67:03] think they're gonna if they do another
[67:04] big screen release they're going to be
[67:05] and call it He-Man and Shira and that's
[67:07] that'll be the name of it the secret of
[67:08] the sword which was their first TV movie
[67:10] I think that it's gonna go the way of
[67:12] see
[67:14] He-Man and Shira quantum mania. [snorts]
[67:16] >> There you go. He-Man and Shira. They
[67:19] don't know their brother and sister, so
[67:20] they might kiss. Get that crowd. But
[67:22] anyways um
[67:23] >> do well in middle America. I'm sorry.
[67:25] >> Yeah. Hi people. Um DD Hey gave us 23 24
[67:32] and said talking about Hasbro, Magic the
[67:34] Gathering could have been the project.
[67:36] By the way, any Easter eggs in the
[67:38] Marvel edition coming out? Um
[67:40] >> Oh yeah. Have you guys seen those cards?
[67:42] They're very funny. There's a I'm not a
[67:45] big magic guy, but Magic is doing its
[67:47] like I think it's called like World
[67:48] Beyond World or something where they
[67:50] kind of have different universes. And
[67:51] there's apparently a um Sauron card.
[67:54] Sauron the lizard man that either heals
[67:58] you by curing cancer or turns one of the
[68:00] guys in your card like set into a
[68:03] dinosaur. So like that's the kind of
[68:05] level of weird. Yeah. I uh I I the one
[68:08] thing about it is there's very few
[68:10] X-Men. So, I do feel like they're saving
[68:11] a lot of the X-Men for later, which will
[68:13] be the most exciting one. But, um, but
[68:15] yeah people
[68:16] >> people seem to have fun with these.
[68:18] Like, I'm not a big magic guy, but uh,
[68:19] but yeah, there have been some cool
[68:20] things. And isn't there a magic movie
[68:22] coming out? I want to say the guy from
[68:24] front of the band, the show, the movie
[68:25] is working on it. Like,
[68:27] >> magic was always when that became the
[68:29] thing. I remember and I was in high
[68:31] school and I I that's when I watched it
[68:33] and I watched my friends doing it and I
[68:34] said, I think I'm good. I think that's
[68:36] the part of fandom that I'm going to
[68:38] leave over there. And it's no shade to
[68:40] anybody who does it. It's it's huge and
[68:41] it kept comic books shops afloat for
[68:43] years with match tournaments.
[68:45] >> So, but my expertise in that is like
[68:47] it's a giant gaping black hole. Guys, we
[68:49] got to wrap it up. I'm so I can do this
[68:51] all day.
[68:52] >> Um, but Nando, you can find him on the
[68:53] mostly nitpicking podcast or on his
[68:55] channel which is linked below. Matt, so
[68:57] good to see you. Please come on again.
[68:59] >> Yeah,
[69:00] >> absolutely. Hopefully
[69:02] >> nonbomb in the future. Hopefully for a
[69:04] what a non a movie that is successful
[69:07] and cool.
[69:08] >> We would love it. Come on anytime. We do
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[69:15] >> Oh my god. Janet, get your hands off my
[69:17] nunchucks. I got to go, guys. I'm so
[69:20] sorry.
[69:20] >> See you later. And Colton, of course,
[69:22] you can find him here on the channel or
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