[00:00] and this is the Wired Complete interview. [upbeat music] Not usually a place I look up myself on.
[00:16] "Am I the only one who feels as though Finneas, or they both should be seen as a duo?" so you're not the only one, but I disagree with you.
[00:29] than almost any producer deserves. I think that what you think of as an artist is more than just the music that is written
[00:45] It's the live performances, and it's how they move through the world and their fashion. We sit around together making albums,
[01:01] album covers and music video ideas. she's out there commanding the room. But yeah, I'm very happy with how it's all panned out.
[01:17] It's really great. WhydYouTrustMe: "What genre of music does Billie's so you'd have to tell me what genre "Chihiro" is in.
[01:35] was it felt synthy and cinematic. running through fields in slow motion "That's exactly what you're supposed to feel like doing
[01:51] - [Interviewer] Do you remember how the bassline came about? ♪ Take my love away ♪ I'm a better pianist than I am a bassist by a mile.
[02:05] like the bass is the first four strings of a guitar. you're playing these little, [bass playing]
[02:19] [bass playing] But on a piano, those notes are all laid out right here.
[02:33] And so I loaded up a synth bass patch, And then you play it, hopefully, in a melodic way.
[02:46] that kind of meandered through the whole song, and I thought about rerecording it, and I'd already recorded Billie's vocals and stuff,
[02:58] something that isn't broken?" U/AwesomeAus01: "Do you think it is okay to use AI programs or song generators to write and produce music?"
[03:14] I don't think, and so why not talk about it? of all of this music technology, right? which is what I produce music on, was like 700 or $800.
[03:30] they made it like $200, and so suddenly, I could afford it. and there's built-in synth sounds, and there's loops. for like the first six years of my career
[03:46] So I think about AI not through, I've downloaded the apps to see what's up,
[03:58] Like that's my current relationship with it. But if I were broke again and 17 again, how to get something juicy out of them, I think,
[04:13] a thing that I think is accessible to everybody. And if it inspires you, I think that that's cool. But I think that having ownership over,
[04:28] like I didn't invent, [piano chords playing] A million times, those chords have been played Here I am playing them.
[04:42] And if I make a mistake, And I think that if I was relying too heavily I'm not thinking about what I'm playing.
[04:55] I know the shapes. [piano chords playing] And I think that the premeditation
[05:08] being the key ingredient to AI is I'm dubious about, about what you wanna hear So if you find a way for it to inspire you, that's awesome.
[05:23] [light music] Radix69: "How did Billie Eilish's 'Ocean Eyes' Well, funny you should ask, Reddit.
[05:38] Billie and I loved listening to music on SoundCloud, and then we started uploading it to SoundCloud, we uploaded to Billie's SoundCloud account.
[05:51] that it was on a blog called Hilly Dilly. And at the time, it was this very big buzzy music blog, about how much he liked "Ocean Eyes."
[06:05] to like draw more attention to SoundCloud, and then other blogs wrote articles about it, And I said to Chad,
[06:17] for kind of giving us a career, and I was like, How did you hear Billie's song?" And I was like, "What Reddit thread?"
[06:30] And he was like, "I'll never reveal my secrets." [laughs] And I was like, "Lame," [laughs] but whatever. So thank you, Reddit shitposter, for taking a break
[06:44] "I like this song." AnitaRangel is how I'm reading this. or most unexpected place you've ever had
[06:59] a creative idea hit you?" I have some really embarrassing, And so then I wake up and I grab my phone
[07:14] and I wake up again and I'm like, "This sucks." - I haven't heard "Let It Be." - Dreaming maybe [indistinct].
[07:28] I heard a really good Paul McCartney story, which is that a friend of mine was at a studio in LA, And so they're all taking their lunch break.
[07:44] And somebody was like, "Can I ask you a question? and I'm feeling uninspired, and I feel like I'm not writing And he said that Paul was like, "They're just songs."
[08:00] And I was like, "That's so cool." FlimsyMango: "What makes Frank Ocean music so unique, I feel like very few people
[08:14] I love his music, and I love his voice. and I feel like you can tell because they sound kind of like an imitation of him.
[08:28] is Dolly Parton, and that's not who I would've guessed But it's such an example of how gifted a songwriter he is,
[08:40] without trying to copy Dolly Parton, and he is making them his own. that he sounds so unique is that he's able
[08:54] and make his own thing out of that." This is from CharacterLog6775. "What is your favorite song from your newest album,
[09:10] I wrote a song about my sister on that album. 'cause it was like, at this sort of point in our lives I was off on my own tours, and she was on her tours,
[09:26] without me and sort of saying good luck and being like, [light music]
[09:40] "What is the one riff you wish you wrote?" So many of these great riffs. But "Seven Nation Army" comes on at a baseball game
[09:54] or a grocery store, equal opportunity riff, And also, any riff that a crowd, especially in a place like England, just sings.
[10:08] Singing the instrumental riff and not the vocal part. [light music] "What do you think about the Pitchfork ratings?
[10:22] Pitchfork ratings are funny because I basically am never thinking about agreeing with them. I am just looking for the tall poppy.
[10:36] I am just like, "Damn, they gave that album a two? And I'm kind of enjoying how mean the review is. That's ridiculous.
[10:48] And then if it's my own album, and I don't wanna know about it. ever on Pitchfork,
[11:04] of the most important album of your life, Because when you love something like that, and hate your favorite album.
[11:20] /Terrible_Main_3379: "Who's your dream collab as a producer, Very inspired by Elliott Smith's music as of late,
[11:32] are pretty sick, even though they're very minimal. and really spooky guitar tones, and I love the drum tones.
[11:45] as a producer would be just setting up those mics around him I don't think I'd have to do a big lift. - "Say Yes" is so amazing.
[12:00] Best title for that song. That song could be called "The Morning After." and "Say Yes" is the coolest title.
[12:14] [piano music playing] ♪ Turned around sooner or later ♪
[12:33] This question is from VasoTheSerb. different than writing concert music? Easier and also harder is my answer for it, right?
[12:46] So what is easier about it is maybe the scene What's hard about it is just making sure Oftentimes, if you're working to picture,
[12:59] which I did a lot on the season of "Beef" that I worked on, right when the character says the thing but they make you better at the other thing,
[13:12] GirlInAura: "What's an album you consider Honestly, "The Black Parade" by My Chemical Romance
[13:25] How about this? That was all the questions that I was allowed to answer and I appreciate Wired for their time.
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