[Music] hey guys what's up it's Charles float here and welcome back to the channel and welcome back to another special episode of interviewing SEO experts and entrepreneurs from around the world in today's episode I'm talking to my business partner at pariset seo.com Mr James Oliver ladies and gentlemen thank you for thank you for having me it's going to be an interesting talk yeah 100% so in today's talk obviously we've been talking a lot about parasite SEO again and for Fairly biased reasons to be fair but you've got a lot more specialty in parasite when it comes to the affiliate side of things than I do to be fair I mostly do CPA Ecom and kind of branding stuff and I've even more recently tried to be packaging in packaging om services using parasite just because of the level of earnings that you can get from the agency and uh and and personal side of things however when it com to pass SEO on your side of things how have you seen things change since kind of the the last year of the Heyday of SEO when you could literally go and buy a Poston Outlook India and you'd be ranking for basically any keyword by the next day well that's the that's the thing as well you can the whole client SEO and stuff like that I I hate that so I've always gone to the affiliate side to be hands off and just basically get do the posts or do the content and then just make the money that way but think basically how it's changed is I feel well me personally I'm doing a lot more parasite than what I used to I used to have my sites ranking in the serps uh and with the serps it's just got taken over by load of high Authority domains and in my specific Ser it's not even us but all us domains are ranking in this Ser so it's been a pain so basically I've switched a lot to parasite SEO just for that one reason just because they're taking all the traffic from my normal blog site so it's been it's been good but it's that's the whole reason I've be Focus focusing on it more basically I think a lot of people can resonate with that though and especially there's kind of this angst towards Google that you can't really recover from hcu and even recently yes there have been fantastic recoveries but realistically the average recovery is like 8 to 15% of the traffic that they had prior to the September hu so you're not really recovering the earnings nearly as well as you were and because of parasite seo's ability to generate Roi so quickly I think the move over has has just seen more and more and more people making that move over the last year or so because it is so easy you can do multiple niches you don't need to rely on one site that could be screwed around with algorithm updates you know normally with Paras set even if a couple Pages get hit in in your update normally other Pages see boosts or they say the same or something along those lines right so I you just said it yourself you do a lot of niches right that a lot of people wouldn't even think of really right so you're in a lot of niches that kind of got taken over by these huge Authority sites but NE not necessarily I would say the average s would ever think of or ever already competed right how are you going about researching these niches and then selecting the offers to actually promote as well well back in the day honestly I used to just look at expired domains and just look at those all the time and then they kind of work backwards from niches then but now with parasite is more of a a tailored approach so I'm trying to find the like uh the higher ticket programs mainly recurring software sort of programs because if you rank for that then you're going to get commissions for for a while so recently I've just been looking all the big networks which are software related like lemon squeezy and stuff like that and kind of just finding the good programs and finding the good keywords based on based on recuring commission Affiliates basically okay do you do anything in other languages or is it all just English it is all just English for now I've not tailored it too much to uh different markets but now with AI it's so much easier to to go across but it's find in the programs as well which is a bit tricky but there is a few good ones like fan Fuel and stuff like that mainly in the supplement nich which do ship into other languages so it's just finding the right programs really but then you can take over whichever seps you want with AI translating yeah 100% I think AI as a stack has kind of given marketers the ability to really compete in markets that they never even dreamed of before and it also gives you the ability to compete at a scale that was never possible before as well right which is kind of getting on to my uh next question which is talking about the successful case study that you've been able to have over the years especially if you've been able to have anything from the tool recently but what I want to ask is I personally how I have been approaching SEO for the last couple of years is a sort of shotgun approach so we don't necessarily think that every page we're building is going to rank right we're just trying to build as many pages to take as many spots in the top 10 as possible and that is sort of going to guarantee our Roi in the long run are you using the same kind of method and what have you actually seen has been the biggest successful methodology that you've used with parasite SEO and some specific successful case studies that you've used with parasite SEO uh so it's same for me like even when I was Niche doing Niche sites like if I built one good site I would always build another one because I knew those office would work and you get more money and more traffic so this is the same with parasite it makes no sense just to do one article and like links it when you could be using medium Reddit and all the other like paid parasites obviously when you find them using the tool but yeah it makes uh as many articles as possible like targeting that one specific keyword and then obviously you want to do all the best for X for y keywords and just literally take over the Sur for as much as possible uh so that's that's pretty much the what I've been doing and for case study wise like in conversion Collective we did a little course on parasite SEO and in that I I just did it on software did the same thing reverse engineer the lemon squeezy offer did that and I didn't touch it it was just a case study for the course and it it's a I forgot what it was over $150 just just for like a little case study video just ranking it on LinkedIn the medium so uh there's so many different case studies I have some from back in the day as well uh Outlook India mainly but obviously they're they're gone now but that's that's the thing you just keep doing that and then you can just even just take that content and then do it on another one so it's not like the end of the world and even with the like three parasites that you just said then especially with things like LinkedIn the medium they have got a bit more topical Authority in the tech and software niches as well and those software niches and Tech niches can have quite High commissions and like I said they can be recurring and because you're using free parasites the ROI is pretty much guaranteed at that point right because you made $150 off of two pages going live for free right in the course of like an hour of making the course if you scale that out across every single day your earnings can be absolutely incredible right and I've seen this happen routinely with so many different people over the last couple of years parasite it's really quite incredible so my next question is one for the kind of beginners in the room but what are some of the more common mistakes that you see especially because you've been working more recently with more beginners more Affiliates more people that have been working with the tool and paraside for the first time what are some common mistakes that you're seeing from those beginners that they're making early on well we kind of already touched on it just a second ago is just doing one page and then forgetting about it so that that's what a lot of people do and then they real then they think it doesn't work or they're trying and go for like super competitive terms but they don't have uh additional content supporting it or they're not going for like best X for y kind of keywords so like if you are posting on any of the common sort of parasites let's just say LinkedIn and mediums you want to be interlinking them but you also want to be going for parasites what you don't really think of like the local forums in that sort of Niche because they do really well it's just trying to get in there and get the keywords out there but you just want to basically take over the surp as much as possible so the biggest mistake is not doing enough posts and not trying to find Niche relevant um places where you can rank those keywords and going for the longtail best uh X or Y sort of keywords as well that's the actually got a next question for you as well which kind of moves on how are you scaling these campaigns as well are are you using Vaas for anything have you started using AI content what's what are you started using any like automation for the browsers to to kind of post pages and stuff yeah so this is the thing I I need to scale and work on a little bit more so for me it is literally just that so it's it's V and it's AI content because I can literally just give them a brief and show them examples of content get them to and just give them keywords get them to produce the content in AI or copper and uh uh chat GPT and then just post it on these Pages which is fairly simple and easy and it is it is fairly scalable but I would like to do some automation with like make.com and scale it that way but at the moment it's all human process but it can scale quite highly and you can get a lot of pages done in a day if you just do it that way are there any compliance issues with parasite and te's and C's because I know when you apply for a lot of offers and programs and stuff you have to apply with your specific domain name and website and sometimes that website has have a minimum amount of visitors or some other metrics or something for for them to use are there any kind of issues that you've ran into with those compliant side of things well luckily obviously I have the portfolio s so a lot of the times I just put those sites down and then you can get in that way but even if you do have a portfolio sites and you say your traffic's like a lot higher than what it is you you generally sometimes are still not going to get accepted either way so generally it does take a followup question to get accepted so for me I've not really touched not really had too many compliance issues it's just the case of following up even if it's just automated and they'll just say not accept but if you just send them an email generally you are going to get accepted but there's so many different offers and so many different products out there it doesn't really affect anything for me yeah normally on the free page you go edit them and change the offer if you get like b or something count anyway right like said there's just so many that you can just recycle between different offers at any time when people are actually using the tool for par . are there any specific Pro tips that you've been able to come across any hidden kind of features or anything that you say to people or any tips that you use so so obviously we've been playing around with it a lot and the biggest tip is just use it like most SEO tools so you have all the data everything there but you just want to be searching these keywords and saving them into projects and then going like basically batch workking it so save them all into a project go that and then go through and then look at it all and basically get publish in and then that way you'll kind of get a good idea of what's ranking in kind of each Niche and you can get delve in a little bit further and then just basically blast the content out in as many different pages uh places as possible but the bulk analysis is also good for checking multiple keywords because that saves a hell of a lot of time rather than doing them individually as well uh so for me I basically just be focusing on personally is mainly affiliate keywords but I want to do a lot more local and try uh like the local affiliate networks and do a lot more like Rank and rent sty uh parasite Pages next which is uh going to be fun yeah exactly I I actually think local is kind of the next Frontier and I know that Mr Yuki on Twitter has been posting some interesting stuff about using emds 301 and stuff at parasite demand that is just crazy so I definitely think that there's some uh there's some Next Level stuff out there for all these different types of SEO I know it's going to be very Niche dependent here but what are kind of some ctrs some clickthrough rates and some kind of conversion rates that people can expect from your Paris SEO campaigns yeah so I I heavily focus on this so I I want to make sure they are optimize a lot of the times like I get my VA to do it and they're just like the MVP sort of parasite pages and then I'll go back in and edit it but if it's more of a paid um opportunity you have to actually put a bit of money there you want to make sure the CTA CTA and everything's set up properly but I like to um within the intro I like to have one bold line saying this is the best tool for for whatever it is and just bolded with a link because it's right at the start loads of people don't want to scroll through content and that that for me has helped the click rate massively and then obviously tracking links for each product afterwards uh and then with with each post as well I like to go because it can can rank for a hell of a lot of keywords not just the main title so I always like to include the main title and then some additional like best X for y keywords actually in the post as well with extra products and for me that that does really well like you've probably seen that ver article where theyve just keyword stuff the printer article and it's like printer for home and stuff like that and you can get away with that sort of stuff in parasite so it's mainly trying to Target a shitload of keywords and putting all the offers in and just making sure it's bold and clickable and very visually easy for someone to find the offer and just click and buy it basically so how are you formatting some of those ctas and how are you placing it I know you said You' had the main one at the top that you normally have where it's kind you know the line for best of is there any other kind of formatting and and even like some CTA wording tricks and stuff that you've been using yeah so so it's start at the start and then I usually do another H2 with uh bullet points for the product and usually another link next to the top product to to make basically fun of people again that way and then each product with like an image and set up and then I always keep the CTA on a separate line so it's going to be a short separate line it's not going to be stuck in inside the content uh and then generally I do mix this up like the CTA but you want to tell people to take action so you say click here to get the product or along those lines you want to tell people what to do and that generally helps with improving the clickthrough rate and the final kind of question that I had for you as well are you doing any link building with these Paras SEO pages not really so kind of a bit back to the beginning mistakes as well it's indexing as well so I just run through aega indexer but it but basically indexing is generally the whole thing which I do uh with that obviously it's not link building but if a page does struggle uh I mainly do internal linking on like as long as it's on the same platform I'll do the internal linking I don't like to link from other uh parasites so I just keep it on the same one so that that kind of counts as a link building but then if it doesn't work and is tricky I don't mind sending pdns or just any old links to it because obviously it's not on your website it's not your asset so you can get away with a lot more and it doesn't really it doesn't really affect you plus those links are cheap and they're generally the most powerfullest links you can get so just send a load of cheap pbms to it and uh see what happens yeah 100% I I kind of agree with all of those points there and I I appreciate you coming on and doing this Q&A I know a lot of people are going to get a lot out of this because affiliate is probably the number one thing that I get asked about how do I place My Links where do I get my offers all this kind of stuff you just answered everything for you in there is there anywhere people can find you specifically online as well yeah sure well before we leave though I want to say a little because it's probably going to come out soon so Black Friday soon it's November so you want to be getting these Post Live uh targeting Black Friday as well like soon especially like mid October they all want to be going live because that's literally the key parasite so that's where you want to be doing it uh and then for finding me it is I think oliver.com on Twitter and on all the other socials or you can go to oliver.com and I'll I'll be there as well I'll put a link for that in the description down below I'll put a link for the tool in the comments as well and I'll see you guys in the next episode Peace