[00:05] know is that, thank God, you were able to get out of this trap, the trap of able to get out of this trap, the trap of betting. But if you have betting. But if you have time, we can ask you a question and ask you
[00:20] time, we can ask you a question and ask you how you got into it?  Okay, so basically, I think most people who join it do so because of their friends. We're hanging out with my friends at cafes, and the people we hang out with in the street. So, one of my friends, I was
[00:35] hanging out with him, and he'd say things like, "We know so-and-so won this much," or "We know so-and-so made this much money." It was pure curiosity to try it out. I wasn't even going to so-and-so made this much money." It was pure curiosity to try it out. I wasn't even going to
[00:47] I was using to try it out, I didn't want it. I was just throwing it away. How much money did you want? It started with 150 Egyptian pounds. Yes, 150 pounds, a small amount. I just wanted to show off. What you're using is an app on your phone that you
[01:03] you're using is an app on your phone that you downloaded, and it's topped up through electronic wallets. Okay, does this app have specific names, or is each game named after a different name? No, it's one app copied from more than 10 apps, all with the same
[01:18] system. We don't want games; we're not We want names for games, and yes, without names, of course. Yes, of course, it has games, it has games, and it includes football betting. Okay, what's the deal with these games? In these games, you throw a certain amount of money. Of course, the larger the amount you throw, the
[01:32] bigger the win, and if you lose, you lose it. The winnings are money, money that's transferred to your card or other account. But what no one knows is that there's a certain large winning limit, as
[01:44] Mr. Mohamed mentioned in the series. You can't withdraw that money at all. What is that limit? I mean, when you first enter, for example, it depends on how much you entered. For example, if a millionaire enters, they might withdraw 100,000 or 200,000 because they know their credit has a large amount.
[02:00] But if someone enters with 10 pounds and wins 1,000 pounds, they might not be able to withdraw it. So, when you enter pounds, they might not be able to withdraw it. So, when you enter this game or application, do you this game or application, do you enter or register with all your data? I mean,
[02:14] your bank account, your name, all of it, or is that...? Bank account, whatever you want, is an option because we have cash, which is the electronic wallet accounts. It makes things easier for you.
[02:26] easier for you. When you won 13,000 pounds the first time, your greed... I didn't want to say the amount because, unfortunately, some people get carried away by the idea of ​​a large amount, but I didn't withdraw that amount. So, what were you playing to win 13,000 pounds?  Unfortunately, there are
[02:40] very simple games that a child can play with, like a toy airplane. The plane... I wasn't a plane in the air, oh, like a plane flying, like up to 30 times the amount of money you're taking, okay? So I'm going in, I'm going in to throw this money, I don't want it, I
[02:56] want it, so I throw large amounts, like, I throw 30 pounds, suddenly I find the plane going up, like, I throw 30 pounds, suddenly I find the plane going up, like, 7, then 150 pounds, suddenly I find the amount multiplying while I'm throwing money, I don't even feel like it's money, it's just
[03:10] numbers. So how did you get out of this situation? Like Mr. Ahmed said in the series, I don't Like Mr. Ahmed said in the series, I don't know how to play and I don't know how to stop, so
[03:23] how did you manage to get out of this situation? Well, initially, for me, and I'm sure the doctorate will help us with this, it took me a while to stop, I mean, it didn't happen all at once, I quit and went back, quit and went back, like any addiction. Why did you decide to quit in the first place? When
[03:37] my family... I told them about it first. When I won, I was happy with myself, thinking I was smart, or at least that it was something that brought in money. And by the way, I wasn't aware at first that it was forbidden and that it was gambling. Maybe I knew, but I found out it was a game on the app. So
[03:54] when I entered and won that amount and then lost it, the feeling of losing that amount made me continue losing money. I kept losing money until my total losses probably exceeded the amount I initially won, which was 13,000 Egyptian pounds. When I felt that things had reached a
[04:08] point where I had lost everything—I mean, I lost everything—I lost my relationships and became I lost everything—I lost my relationships and became isolated. My mental state was at rock bottom. I was a content creator before this, before I started gambling, so even my work as a
[04:22] gambling, so even my work as a content creator is being affected. Yes, very much so. My mental state is content creator is being affected. Yes, very much so. My mental state is declining, and I get very irritable. When you play, you find yourself, whether you're losing or even winning, focused on winning more.  Even if
[04:35] you lost, you're upset and angry. Who did you talk to, or who helped you get it? My father once contacted me in a call. It was a very harsh call. Maybe I went along with the topic at first, which is stubbornness, but after that,
[04:50] where do I go? When I got to this point, which is that I will lose everything, and I am aware and I read about addiction very well, and I mean, I know what addiction leads to, especially when I read about gambling addiction or the addiction to betting, it is the same as heroin addiction, the same degree. The addiction to
[05:07] easy money is equivalent to heroin addiction. In the characters that Professor Muhammad wrote in the series, who did you see that Professor Muhammad wrote in the series, who did you see yourself in?  Most of them were probably spherical or yourself in?  Most of them were probably spherical or interested in making a ball,
[05:22] interested in making a ball, but there was the chemistry teacher, that teacher was completely destroyed, I mean, the geology teacher, yes, I mean, was there anyone in the series? No, there wasn't anyone, because the whole series was the same, there wasn't anyone, not one of them was like him, there wasn't anyone
[05:37] in the series standing, but thank God, God blessed me that I was able to stand, and that's difficult. Yeah.