[0:00] Are there any any other support players
[0:02] here or are you guys like all core
[0:03] supports? I mean
[0:06] >> I'm a mid player but transition to
[0:08] playing a support.
[0:10] >> Oh.
[0:10] >> Every new patch, every new meta that
[0:12] comes
[0:13] >> First 5 minutes is all regen. Just like
[0:15] consumables. Like we need keep trying,
[0:16] keep trying, trading and sustain,
[0:18] sustain sustain.
[0:21] In fact, the moment you get like gold
[0:22] with the bounty, right? First courier
[0:24] sends out his ready tango. Tango and
[0:26] like mango or something.
[0:27] More.
[0:29] >> Yeah.
[0:31] >> First 5 minutes all on regen.
[0:33] Like tango, salve, mango. Even if you
[0:35] don't need buy it. Cuz you have to buy
[0:37] for your core also.
[0:39] If can't trade enemy, must pull. Don't
[0:42] try too hard.
[0:44] I mean like losing trades, um resources
[0:46] slow.
[0:47] Yeah, see bro? You see what I mean? Like
[0:48] already being stuck like this because
[0:49] you bought a boots. Versus if you send
[0:51] your courier earlier, you have like
[0:52] salve, tango, full health and then you
[0:53] kill them again, kill them again, kill
[0:54] them again. Plus your guy has no regen.
[0:56] One tango, you have to sponsor him.
[0:59] >> Yeah.
[1:00] >> You just go and watch this uh Liquid
[1:02] versus Falcon. Watch how they play the
[1:03] lane. The amount of regen they buy is
[1:05] like in 5 minutes they bought like each
[1:06] one of them bought like four sets of
[1:08] tango just to survive the lane.
[1:09] Just make sure the reason for losing
[1:11] health is not bad. Like Regen must be
[1:13] bought but you must not like lose health
[1:15] for no reason. Regen must be bought but
[1:17] don't lose health for no reason. Don't
[1:19] lose health for the wrong reasons.
[1:21] If you're spamming regen because of this
[1:23] then you need to understand what is
[1:24] causing you to buy regen. If you're
[1:27] trading and you need to trade to win the
[1:28] lane then regen must be bought.
[1:30] >> Yeah.
[1:33] But when I should consider to buy a
[1:35] tranquil boots so fast?
[1:37] Like do I Do Do I have that option if I
[1:40] play support? Or I need to spend like
[1:43] all golds on consumables?
[1:45] >> No, you see the items I turn close,
[1:47] right? They cost very little. The parts
[1:49] cost very little but boots is huge. So
[1:51] normally you buy these small items but
[1:52] you send them with like regen every time
[1:54] until you can afford the boots.
[1:56] Like don't just buy regen but buy regen
[1:58] with small items. Like, buy regen with
[1:59] stick, buy regen with uh sentry, buy
[2:02] regen with like, if you want to buy
[2:03] tranquils or urn or something, then buy
[2:05] it for circlet. Just don't save up your
[2:07] gold just to buy like one big item like
[2:08] this.
[2:09] You get what I mean?
[2:11] >> Yes.
[2:11] >> You can buy this. Like, buy ring for
[2:13] sure or windlace for sure. You need it.
[2:15] But, buy uh regen.
[2:19] This is actually crazy, bro. Like, this
[2:20] entire lane could have been different if
[2:21] you just had health.
[2:29] I even hear pull pull, must pull.
[2:32] Pull more. Pull more. Lane push can't do
[2:34] it. Pull.
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[3:13] >> So, main takeaways for you or for all of
[3:15] you uh supports, if can't contest
[3:18] or lane push up, must pull.
[3:20] If no regen in lane first 5 minutes,
[3:23] spam the hell out of regen.
[3:26] And if can't trade strong, just chill.
[3:29] Sit behind your partner, wait for pull.
[3:31] If 1 v 1 beside, I would not recommend
[3:33] like walking into two heroes and trading
[3:34] like this.
[3:36] Uh that that's like bad start off health
[3:38] usage. Instead, you wait for people to
[3:40] be isolated because you pull, he come,
[3:42] then you trade. Then you like 2 v 1
[3:43] this.
[3:45] Or when you the support goes to pull
[3:46] this, then you 2 v 1 the core.
[3:48] Or if it's clearly you're stronger 2 v 2
[3:49] because of health and level, then you
[3:51] trade.
[3:52] Okay, let's move to the part where you
[3:53] start moving uh to other lanes. Cuz the
[3:55] entire lane is just the same. Pull more,
[3:57] pull more. Pull more and keep your
[3:58] allies still healthy. Lifestealer has no
[4:00] regen. You need to give him regen.
[4:02] See again, pull more, pull more.
[4:07] Oh. Haha. Oh. Okay. Huh.
[4:13] Uh what is this?
[4:14] Wait what?
[4:16] What is this, bro?
[4:17] I'm just I'm trying to keep the wave not
[4:19] pushing.
[4:20] And keeping it in the lane. Okay. That's
[4:22] what I thought.
[4:24] But yeah, I died, I think.
[4:25] >> [laughter]
[4:27] >> What the heck?
[4:31] The whole point of pulling is for the
[4:33] wave to come to you. I mean, why why why
[4:35] do you not want the wave to come to you?
[4:36] Uh
[4:37] they had catapults, so
[4:39] I thought not just to get the near
[4:41] tower, so Uh this this is like a feed,
[4:43] bro.
[4:44] Yeah.
[4:47] Okay, this is all mid for rune control.
[4:48] This is good, this is good. This is very
[4:49] good.
[4:50] I think in this time like I jump on my
[4:52] keyboard, so I
[4:55] Yeah, this is very good.
[4:56] This is the perfect rotation, very nice.
[5:00] We're down back to bottom. Okay, good.
[5:03] Also, another question about mid. If I
[5:05] play post five, if I see my mid laner
[5:07] not kill creeps and just leave mid like
[5:10] that and creeps dying, do I need to
[5:12] maybe go there to get experience? lane,
[5:14] right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If if there's a
[5:16] free lane to take
[5:17] and you have no impact here, then you
[5:19] should go there to take.
[5:21] Again, before you think about the
[5:23] action, think about the consequences as
[5:25] in when I choose to go to this, what
[5:26] happens here? What will happen in like
[5:28] 10 more seconds, 20 more seconds?
[5:31] What will happen to my post one? Are we
[5:32] strong to play here? If you're strong,
[5:34] you shouldn't leave it to play a weaker
[5:35] position.
[5:36] It's the same thing like after I win off
[5:38] lane,
[5:39] I would expect my post four and myself
[5:41] to control this side
[5:42] for as long as we can.
[5:44] But if my post four decides to leave me
[5:45] to gang another lane, and now I'm the
[5:47] push tree that's uh that they gets left
[5:49] alone. Then now I'm like screwed.
[5:51] Uh because the guy give up the control
[5:53] to go help other lane.
[5:55] And then we let the enemy come back
[5:56] again.
[5:59] So here I'm mid lane now decides to come
[6:01] back for for some reason.
[6:03] Uh but he's going back to mid. And then
[6:05] you have nothing to do for life here, so
[6:06] you go to top. All right. All right.
[6:15] Okay, this this just turned out well, so
[6:16] that's good. I want to see more clarity,
[6:18] small mangoes, small mana, and
[6:20] consumables to keep playing the map.
[6:22] Because you're like low all the time you
[6:23] were in lane. Okay, let's see how how
[6:24] did it turn out to this? So you gang
[6:26] top, kill top, then you go plant some
[6:28] deep wards. That's fine.
[6:30] Uh but no health and mana to push tower
[6:33] but here he just died.
[6:34] But if you push you might die cuz you're
[6:35] low.
[6:36] If you have mana but Bristleback is
[6:38] playing strong, so you should be
[6:39] protecting Bristleback with wards, which
[6:41] is what you're doing. Okay.
[6:43] Bristleback is playing top, so you
[6:44] should see he's top lane. Be like, "Ping
[6:46] tower. Ping tower. Don't move, Freddy.
[6:47] Ping tower."
[6:49] Uh see that's the randomness. This is
[6:50] randomness.
[6:52] This is randomness. This is not
[6:53] objective. Objective is I gang top, I
[6:55] win top, I stay top for more potential
[6:57] gangs.
[6:58] After a gang, stick around for more
[7:00] gangs. You know, just protect your core.
[7:03] Uh ward the area around for him and sit
[7:05] behind him. Like literally just watch
[7:07] him like do his stuff. Cuz eventually
[7:09] when people start coming to this area,
[7:11] you have to kill the heroes with this
[7:13] guy cuz he's so strong.
[7:15] >> I think I saw the draw bot and Pangolier
[7:18] also TP top, so I
[7:20] thought it might not be anyway anyone
[7:23] top anymore, but yeah.
[7:25] >> It's okay. Even if there's no one top
[7:27] now, they might come later in like 10 20
[7:29] seconds. That's when you have to help
[7:30] this guy turn it around. Yeah.
[7:32] Plus you're open now without health and
[7:34] mana makes no sense. So the only play
[7:35] you can make now is to protect the core.
[7:37] Supports only have two actions, man.
[7:39] Number one, pick a free lane and hold
[7:41] the lane.
[7:42] Which is what uh someone was asking
[7:45] earlier to free lane uh Kuka was asking
[7:46] earlier free lane. Or play behind a
[7:49] strong core
[7:50] and control the area. Most of the time
[7:52] in high MMR it's always going to be
[7:53] this.
[7:54] In low MMR it's always going to be free
[7:56] lane. So, that's like free lanes all
[7:57] around the map cuz it's like five people
[7:59] fighting down here and it's like two
[8:01] lanes for free that can be pushed.
[8:03] But, the higher MMR you go the better
[8:05] the cores, the more lanes are going to
[8:06] be occupied.
[8:08] That's why in US the support have to
[8:09] pick which lane should I play with that
[8:11] I can do something at.
[8:13] So, that's why you find the strongest
[8:14] player. Normally, it's the off laner or
[8:16] the mid laner. The person will just be
[8:17] free farming.
[8:19] Now, you watch here since I'm clarity
[8:21] spamming go sit top, ping the tower.
[8:23] Push, push, push, push. And you sit
[8:24] here. And then you wait for people to
[8:26] come. Then you go kill him with the
[8:28] Magnus.
[8:30] You see what I mean, bro? Your job is to
[8:31] prevent this. See this? You have to
[8:32] prevent this.
[8:36] Even the Bristleback earlier like see
[8:37] how this Bristleback decides to move
[8:39] around the map.
[8:41] This guy was strong top. He should have
[8:42] stayed top to push top.
[8:44] And Magnus came top as well. So, you
[8:45] guys should be like, "Let's push this
[8:47] tower down now." So, you just go sit
[8:48] behind them and two of these will push.
[8:50] For this Bristleback to understand this
[8:52] action, you needed to ping him to be
[8:54] like, "Push top. I protect." Something
[8:55] like that. Then he will go. He will try
[8:57] and go.
[9:02] See and then because of that now like
[9:04] you move to this and there's no
[9:05] intention. Now, you get caught in some
[9:06] random stuff that you don't want to be
[9:08] in where there's no information
[9:09] whatsoever. Versus if you just sit top
[9:11] and you warded this entire area, this is
[9:13] where people will come to you. Now, it's
[9:15] more like you're going to them and they
[9:16] just react to you and then they kill
[9:18] you.
[9:26] Okay, I think that's good enough for the
[9:28] support ready. Uh
[9:29] do do you understand, bro?
[9:30] >> Yeah.
[9:31] >> I think there's more than enough for you
[9:32] to work on here like regen, trading,
[9:34] pulling, rotations, why, uh the meaning
[9:36] behind each actions.