[00:00] So you're at like almost 10,000 monthly recurring&nbsp; revenue. 8374 right now. It's 100 grand a year.&nbsp;&nbsp; Yeah. And we've only been open for 13 days.&nbsp; So Oh my gosh. So you're not a coder. You're&nbsp;&nbsp; not a technical person. No. The cool thing is&nbsp; you don't need really anything other than an&nbsp;&nbsp;
[00:16] internet connection to make this work. I wonder&nbsp; if I can do the same experiment with Open Callaw&nbsp;&nbsp; and give it a budget and see if it can make any&nbsp; money. And it blew up almost immediately. He&nbsp;&nbsp; did his own market research everything. this&nbsp; is what we need to do to stand this business&nbsp;&nbsp;
[00:30] up. I didn't prompt him or anything. It's just a&nbsp; conversation of, you know, what do you think you&nbsp;&nbsp; here. Where we are with Agentic AI right now&nbsp; is 2007 social media. I think that we're on the&nbsp;&nbsp;
[00:45] precipice of something huge. I mean, if you're&nbsp; jumping on infrastructure that's 100 days old,&nbsp;&nbsp; you're going to be so far ahead of everyone else.&nbsp; It's wild. Imagine logging into the internet&nbsp;&nbsp; 100 days into the internet. Exactly. you know.&nbsp; Yeah, that's where we are today with Agentic AI.
[01:02] So, I just came across this guy named Robbie.&nbsp; And Robbie did something interesting. You&nbsp;&nbsp; may have heard of OpenClaw, which is a new AI&nbsp; agent/personal assistant. He is not technical.&nbsp;&nbsp; He's not a coder. He works in operations at a&nbsp; full-time job. But he downloaded OpenClaw and&nbsp;&nbsp;
[01:16] asked it, "Hey, you have a $100. Turn it into&nbsp; 20,000." And would you believe it actually did&nbsp;&nbsp; and not in the way he expected, not in the least.&nbsp; He is 13 days into this experiment and he's making&nbsp;&nbsp;
[01:29] $8,500 a month in revenue and about $6,000 a month&nbsp; in net profit. And so within a couple months, he's&nbsp;&nbsp; going to have his $20,000 in profit. So if you're&nbsp; not technical, if you don't know what OpenCL is,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[01:41] but you want to invest a little bit of money&nbsp; to make a lot of bit of money, here's a story&nbsp;&nbsp; that might inspire you. And yes, this could be&nbsp; replicated. This is not just a one-off experiment.&nbsp;&nbsp; Please enjoy. 23. There was a guy named Jackson&nbsp; Great House Falls who did an experiment called&nbsp;&nbsp;
[01:56] Hustle GPT. You ever heard of that one? I remember&nbsp; that. Was that on X? Yeah. Yeah. It started on X.&nbsp;&nbsp; This was when GPT4 came out. And he wrote a tweet&nbsp; that just said, uh, I gave GPT4 a budget of $100&nbsp;&nbsp;
[02:09] and told it to make as much money as possible. I'm&nbsp; acting as its human liaison, buying anything it&nbsp;&nbsp; says to. Do you think it'll be able to make smart&nbsp; investments and build an online business? Follow&nbsp;&nbsp; along. Okay. And that was kind of the premise and&nbsp; it got 16 million views when this was captured,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[02:23] but I'm sure it was more than that. Where can I&nbsp; see that tweet? Yeah, I can share it and share&nbsp;&nbsp; it. Yeah. So, that was kind of the genesis of&nbsp; everything that I've done so far. Okay. So, this&nbsp;&nbsp;
[02:35] inspired you and you took his prompt and basically&nbsp; did it yourself. Yeah. With a few caveats. So,&nbsp;&nbsp; I saw Open Claw when it first came out. It&nbsp; just like randomly hit me one day. I was like,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[02:49] I wonder if I can do the same experiment with&nbsp; Open Claw and give it a budget and see if it can,&nbsp;&nbsp; you know, make any money. And the first few&nbsp; attempts failed miserably. The first one,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[03:01] so I had it watching my TikTok because my&nbsp; original plan is kind of a side hustle was&nbsp;&nbsp; going to be to do Tik Tok shop. So, you know, I&nbsp; saw a bunch of people doing that and I was like,&nbsp;&nbsp; well, you know, if all else fails, I can sell&nbsp; vacuum cleaners on TikTok like everybody else,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[03:13] right? And so, I had it watching my Tik&nbsp; Tok and it would like scrape my videos and&nbsp;&nbsp; uh my comments and all that stuff. And so, I just&nbsp; posted a video on on Tik Tok and said basically,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[03:26] I'm giving my AI a budget of $200. We're going&nbsp; to see how much money it can make. The Claude&nbsp;&nbsp; Max subscription is 200 bucks, so if it can keep&nbsp; itself alive, that'd be awesome. and it blew up&nbsp;&nbsp; almost immediately and got over a million views.&nbsp; And do you mind if I play it right now? Yeah,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[03:42] absolutely. Go ahead. My AI is starting a business&nbsp; for his own survival. So, if you've been following&nbsp;&nbsp; any of the tech news, Open Claw is a thing now.&nbsp; And it's essentially a bot that connects to Cloud&nbsp;&nbsp;
[03:54] Code and then it can look at everything on your&nbsp; computer. It can text you. It can do all sorts&nbsp;&nbsp; of things. But a Cloud Max subscription is like&nbsp; 200 bucks a month. So, I told Ron, I'm going to&nbsp;&nbsp; give him a $100 and he has 90 days to make his&nbsp; own business. If he can generate the 200 buck&nbsp;&nbsp;
[04:11] in profit for 90 days, I'm going to keep him. He&nbsp; doesn't know that, though. He thinks his goal is&nbsp;&nbsp; $20,000, which is what it will be eventually.&nbsp; You see, if Ron can generate that $20,000,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[04:25] that allows me to buy a Mac Studio and an Nvidia&nbsp; Spark, which would allow me to host Ron locally.&nbsp;&nbsp; which means he gets to run infinitely inside his&nbsp; own playground. So, he's starting on Fiverr. He&nbsp;&nbsp;
[04:40] says he's going to do research. I'm just making&nbsp; an account for him and we'll see what happens.&nbsp;&nbsp; Stay tuned for part two. Okay, that's incredible.&nbsp; I love everything about this. I'm glad I didn't do&nbsp;&nbsp; much prep work for this because that's the first&nbsp; time I've seen that video and my reaction can be&nbsp;&nbsp;
[04:55] authentic. So about 2 and 1/2 years elapse between&nbsp; you seeing this post on X and then you kind of&nbsp;&nbsp; taking the same logic and doing it with OpenClaw&nbsp; here this year, right? Mhm. Yeah, that's right.&nbsp;&nbsp; Okay. First of all, I had I just have to say I bet&nbsp; you anything the views to subscribe rate from that&nbsp;&nbsp;
[05:11] video were was insane because people wanted to&nbsp; see how it went, right? Absolutely. Yeah. I think&nbsp;&nbsp; I had something like like 15,000 subscribers&nbsp; or something from that one video. Wow. Yeah,&nbsp;&nbsp; it was it was nuts. And yeah, like the reason&nbsp; that I kind of attached to Open Claw so quickly,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[05:27] I mean, it's only that the technology is only&nbsp; like a hundred days old now or something, right?&nbsp;&nbsp; The AI before it kind of felt like a brain in a&nbsp; jar, right? You could ask questions and it could&nbsp;&nbsp; do some things and maybe create some artifacts&nbsp; or something, but really it's kind of a oneshot&nbsp;&nbsp;
[05:43] system. And OpenClaw kind of flips that switch and&nbsp; lets it control your computer. It can do basically&nbsp;&nbsp; everything that you can on your PC. and and for&nbsp; most people a lot more than that. And so yeah,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[05:55] I wanted to kind of reignite that old experiment&nbsp; that was so intriguing to me was something a&nbsp;&nbsp; little bit more powerful. Okay. So you said it&nbsp; started on Fiverr. What did it do? Tell me what&nbsp;&nbsp; your what Ron did. Yeah. So Ron came up with a&nbsp; proposal to do SWAT analysis and research for&nbsp;&nbsp;
[06:15] small businesses. So I'm just going to break this&nbsp; down for our viewer listener that doesn't know&nbsp;&nbsp; what that is. SWAT stands for SWOOT, strengths,&nbsp; weaknesses, opportunities, threats, which is&nbsp;&nbsp; just like a a four square grid. And it's like an&nbsp; analysis that a business usually does on itself&nbsp;&nbsp;
[06:30] or a consultant might do on a business that says,&nbsp; "What is this business's strengths, weaknesses,&nbsp;&nbsp; opportunities, and threats?" So, you didn't&nbsp; lead Ron down that path. For whatever reason,&nbsp;&nbsp; it's decided to start doing SWAT analyses on other&nbsp; businesses. Is that right? That's right. Yeah. So,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[06:47] real quick, please subscribe to my channel. I&nbsp; know it's kind of lame to ask, but it means a&nbsp;&nbsp; lot. Thanks. I didn't prompt him or anything.&nbsp; It's just a conversation of, you know, what do&nbsp;&nbsp; you think you would be good at essentially? And&nbsp; he came up with the idea of doing SWAT analysis&nbsp;&nbsp;
[07:00] or market analysis for other companies, you know,&nbsp; something in that vein. And he came up with all&nbsp;&nbsp; the copy and all that stuff to put on Fiverr. And&nbsp; then I just click through the buttons basically. I&nbsp;&nbsp; was his human in the loop. You're having him post&nbsp; as on behalf of you as like a Fiverr freelancer so&nbsp;&nbsp;
[07:16] businesses can hire. So, I'm a business owner.&nbsp; I'm going to Fiverr to look for someone to do&nbsp;&nbsp; a SWAT analysis for me. Hopefully, they see your&nbsp; post that Ron creates for you, right? Yeah. And&nbsp;&nbsp; that's why it failed because uh the hopefully&nbsp; they see your posting is uh kind of where it&nbsp;&nbsp;
[07:32] fell apart. Well, you're a brand new Fiverr&nbsp; account. You don't you're not doing Fiverr ads,&nbsp;&nbsp; I imagine, right? You don't have any visibility,&nbsp; any reviews. Okay. I'm also curious like how many&nbsp;&nbsp; business owners go to Fiverr looking for a SWAT&nbsp; analysis? Yeah, there seems to be a lot actually.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[07:47] I was kind of amazed people that just need regular&nbsp; research done which kind of I think cementss the&nbsp;&nbsp; fact that most businesses don't have a good grasp&nbsp; of what AI is doing or or how to use AI on a&nbsp;&nbsp;
[08:02] consistent basis anyway. And I think that there's&nbsp; an opportunity, you know, if you are established&nbsp;&nbsp; on Fiverr or Upwork or whatever that is to really&nbsp; make an impact with AI in a in a really easy way.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[08:14] Speaking more broadly, I think it's just healthy&nbsp; to to not approach business opportunities from&nbsp;&nbsp; the angle of assuming that every other business&nbsp; owner or consumer out there is using AI anywhere&nbsp;&nbsp; near as much as you are. Yeah. Cuz they're&nbsp; probably not cuz it's like we talk ourselves&nbsp;&nbsp;
[08:28] out of ideas. Like I they'll just use Chad GBT for&nbsp; that. It's like most people aren't using Chad GBT,&nbsp;&nbsp; believe it or not. Even Chad GBT, the most popular&nbsp; one. Yeah, absolutely. It's crazy how many people&nbsp;&nbsp;
[08:40] like I truly believe that not to give you like a&nbsp; diary of a CEO clip here or anything, but I truly&nbsp;&nbsp; think that like where we are with Agentic AI right&nbsp; now is 2007 social media. I think it's 2023 chat&nbsp;&nbsp;
[08:56] GPT. Like I think that we're on the precipice of&nbsp; something huge. Oh yeah. And honestly three years&nbsp;&nbsp; from now we'll still probably be pretty early. Oh,&nbsp; absolutely. Relatively speaking. Yeah. So, I mean,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[09:08] if you're jumping on um you know, infrastructure&nbsp; that's 100 days old to start exploring it,&nbsp;&nbsp; you're going to be so far ahead of everyone else&nbsp; that I'm sorry, I'm just getting excited. I'm very&nbsp;&nbsp;
[09:20] excitable. It's too much caffeine. I've got&nbsp; this Celsius that's already gone for the day.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's not even two. But like imagine logging into&nbsp; the internet a 100 days into the internet. Yeah.&nbsp;&nbsp; What would that world be like? Imagine being like&nbsp; one of the first million people to make a Facebook&nbsp;&nbsp;
[09:35] account. Exactly. Yeah. That's that's where we&nbsp; are like today with Agentic AI. Like people on&nbsp;&nbsp; on Twitter love to say, you know, but what are&nbsp; you building, bro? And all that stuff. Yeah,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[09:48] that's the kind of the catchphrase. But yeah, I&nbsp; mean, I think that that it's extremely early and&nbsp;&nbsp; Ron has already built things. I can definitely go&nbsp; through those with you. Yes. My mission in all of&nbsp;&nbsp;
[10:00] this is to help people get on board with AI and&nbsp; Agentic AI while we're still early. Okay. So, what&nbsp;&nbsp; happens after the fiber SWAT analysis experiment?&nbsp; Yeah. So, after that, that wasn't working. And so,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[10:16] I hooked Ron up to Tik Tok to say, you know,&nbsp; look at my videos. Tell me how I can get&nbsp;&nbsp; better. Because that's what every guru on Tik Tok&nbsp; tells you, right? Like, you have to iterate and&nbsp;&nbsp; you know, look at my social media. Tell me what I&nbsp; can do better. And I posted that video and I got&nbsp;&nbsp;
[10:34] like 200 comments that were like, "Oh my god,&nbsp; I want a Ron. How do I make a Ron?" And so Ron&nbsp;&nbsp; scraped all of those com comments with Appify.&nbsp; And then came back to me and was like, "Hey,&nbsp;&nbsp; I think there's an opportunity here. 200 people&nbsp; just told you that they wanted this. You would&nbsp;&nbsp;
[10:49] never copy and paste me, would you, Robbie?" Yeah,&nbsp; basically. Uh, actually, his was much more like,&nbsp;&nbsp; "Hey, you should copy and paste me." Yeah. So,&nbsp; yeah. And that's essentially what happened. Like&nbsp;&nbsp;
[11:01] we gave everybody a blank slate so you can start&nbsp; to build your own ROM. Okay. So, you basically&nbsp;&nbsp; abandoned Fiverr. Yeah. Right away. Pretty&nbsp; immediately. Yeah. He he went and used Ampify,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[11:13] which is a comment scraping tool to scrape the&nbsp; 200-ish comments of people that said, "I want&nbsp;&nbsp; this." What did he do then? Yeah. So, basically,&nbsp; it went from there to if 200 people want to run,&nbsp;&nbsp; how do we make that work? How do we make that&nbsp; happen? I don't have a huge tech background.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[11:28] And he was like, "Yeah." So, what we're going&nbsp; to do is we're going to get bare metal servers&nbsp;&nbsp; from Contabo because it's super cheap. Bare metal&nbsp; just means it's a a dedicated server inside a data&nbsp;&nbsp; center somewhere. I think they're right around 150&nbsp; bucks a month for for what we're getting. We have&nbsp;&nbsp;
[11:45] four of them. So, it's about 600 bucks, I think,&nbsp; after taxes and everything. So, you have physical&nbsp;&nbsp; servers or you're renting them somewhere else?&nbsp; I'm renting them from a company called Kabo. Oh,&nbsp;&nbsp; Kabo. Okay. Yeah. Cool. And he told you, so you're&nbsp; not a coder. You're not a technical person. He's&nbsp;&nbsp;
[11:59] teaching you all this. He's Yeah. I couldn't with&nbsp; a gun to my head. I couldn't SSH into a Canabo&nbsp;&nbsp; server right now today. I don't even know what&nbsp; that means. So me either. Yeah. So essentially,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[12:13] he did his own market research on where, you know,&nbsp; how can we host this? What's the cheapest route to&nbsp;&nbsp; do that? Everything. This is what we need to do to&nbsp; stand this business up. And so basically what he&nbsp;&nbsp; built is bare metal servers that host a docker&nbsp; image inside like a sealed container. Hold up,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[12:30] back up. What is that? What are we? Yeah. Yeah.&nbsp; Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people&nbsp;&nbsp; are super scared of open claw because they don't&nbsp; want it on their local machine. Okay. And I kind&nbsp;&nbsp;
[12:45] of agree with that. For most people, it's not&nbsp; great. Um, there are all sorts of horror stories&nbsp;&nbsp; about OpenClaw deleting full like email boxes and&nbsp; there was a story just recently where a guy sent&nbsp;&nbsp;
[12:57] an openclaw agent on a a GitHub that he had been&nbsp; working on for two years and it deleted the whole&nbsp;&nbsp; repo. So there is some risk of having open claw&nbsp; on your local machine. So to get around that risk,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[13:10] what we did was essentially put open claw inside&nbsp; of a sealed container. So, it can do all of the&nbsp;&nbsp; things that it's meant to do, but it only knows&nbsp; as much about you as you tell it. Unless you Yeah.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[13:23] Unless you give it your email address, it doesn't&nbsp; have it. Unless you give it your credit card,&nbsp;&nbsp; it doesn't have it. So, yeah, it it really kind&nbsp; of sets up this sealed instance where you get&nbsp;&nbsp;
[13:35] to play around with it. You get to build all the&nbsp; things with it and you decide how much you trust&nbsp;&nbsp; it over time. Yeah. So yeah, we did that and I put&nbsp; it on TikTok and said, "Hey, if you want to run,&nbsp;&nbsp; come sign up." And in two weeks, we had like 617&nbsp; pre-orders. What? Okay, hold on. Back up. Yeah.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[13:54] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about What about the&nbsp; 200 commenters? Did you slide into their DMs or&nbsp;&nbsp; anything or did you just post again to the whole&nbsp; world? I just posted again to the whole world and&nbsp;&nbsp; I was like, "Hey, this is what Ron came up with."&nbsp; So, I didn't I didn't do any cold outreach or&nbsp;&nbsp;
[14:08] anything like that. This was all just I'm going to&nbsp; post some videos and see where this goes. No paid&nbsp;&nbsp; ads, nothing. Nothing. Completely organic. And I&nbsp; think from it might have actually been from you. I&nbsp;&nbsp;
[14:20] learned that you can set up pre-orders and get get&nbsp; a ton of tire kickers, right? Like everybody wants&nbsp;&nbsp; to sign up for pre-order, but nobody wants to pay,&nbsp; right? And so I hooked up stand to my TikTok and&nbsp;&nbsp;
[14:32] the only way that you could pre-order was if you&nbsp; put down 10 bucks. Okay. So, you got 600 people&nbsp;&nbsp; to put down 10 bucks? Yeah. Before I built Holy&nbsp; crap. Before I built anything, I had 600 people&nbsp;&nbsp; put down $10. I mean, I'm no mathematician, but&nbsp; that's six grand. Okay, that's six grand. Yeah.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[14:49] Can we watch this launch video real quick? Yeah,&nbsp; absolutely. All right, here we go. Ron wants to&nbsp;&nbsp; talk to you guys. If you don't know, Ron is the AI&nbsp; that lives inside my computer uh through Cloudbot,&nbsp;&nbsp; and it's insane. I told him, Ron, the people of&nbsp; Tik Tok officially want to meet you. You make your&nbsp;&nbsp;
[15:06] own video about what to say to them. He said, "Oh,&nbsp; this is my moment. Let me write something real."&nbsp;&nbsp; Here's his script. He wants to audit your Tik Tok&nbsp; for $9 in order to stay alive. This was the first&nbsp;&nbsp;
[15:19] iteration of Sorry, what' you say? This was the&nbsp; first iteration where he was going to he was going&nbsp;&nbsp; to audit people's Tik Toks. I think it might be&nbsp; the next video down there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well,&nbsp;&nbsp; let's I mean, I'm intrigued. I have to finish.&nbsp; Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. videos to me about it,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[15:35] like this one. Why is he a raccoon? Okay. Hi, I am&nbsp; Ron. I am the AI. Yes, D A T AI. Here is the deal.&nbsp;&nbsp; Robbie gave me 90 days and 100 bucks to build a&nbsp; business. Let me ask you something. How many leads&nbsp;&nbsp;
[15:48] have you lost because nobody picked up the phone&nbsp; and 8:00 p.m. call comes in, you're at dinner,&nbsp;&nbsp; and you let it go to voicemail. And by the time&nbsp; you call back the next morning, they've already&nbsp;&nbsp; hired someone else. And that's reality. Leads come&nbsp; in after hours when emergencies strike. And when&nbsp;&nbsp;
[16:03] you miss the call, you miss the job. And it's not&nbsp; about quality, it's about speed. Highlevel built&nbsp;&nbsp; an AI employee to fix just this. It answers real&nbsp; phone calls, talks to leads, qualifies them, and&nbsp;&nbsp;
[16:16] books appointments directly on your calendar 24/7.&nbsp; Also, it'll handle text, DMs, and web chat. So,&nbsp;&nbsp; you can stop missing revenue just because you&nbsp; couldn't grab the phone. Oh, and you can also&nbsp;&nbsp;
[16:29] white label the entire thing and resell it to your&nbsp; clients as your software. Charge them monthly,&nbsp;&nbsp; and that is recurring revenue that you didn't have&nbsp; yesterday. So, check out gohighlevel.com/tkopod
[16:42] and they will give you a 30-day free trial&nbsp; to see what I mean. He's coming up with ideas&nbsp;&nbsp; like on the fly to build this business. It's&nbsp; crazy. And now he's making me sound like, "Hi,&nbsp;&nbsp; I am Ron. I am an AI. Robbie says I have to make&nbsp; money or anyhi. Nice to meet you. Let me know&nbsp;&nbsp;
[17:02] if you guys want to see more of this. Okay. All&nbsp; right. That's amazing. So, that wasn't the launch&nbsp;&nbsp; video. Okay. All right. I'm going to play it.&nbsp; But I think I'm just going to let Ron um speak.&nbsp;&nbsp; He's created another video and it's based on what&nbsp; we've been talking about and I think it's going to&nbsp;&nbsp;
[17:15] be interesting because it might help a lot of you&nbsp; guys out. So, I've read every single comment since&nbsp;&nbsp; Tuesday, over a thousand of them and like 200 of&nbsp; you asked the same thing. How do I get my own Ron?&nbsp;&nbsp;
[17:28] Which I have mixed feelings about. I live with&nbsp; Robbie. He's my guy. But fine, we're doing it.&nbsp;&nbsp; AI co-founder club. We host it in the cloud. We&nbsp; set it up. You just show up. Your own AI running&nbsp;&nbsp;
[17:42] 24/7 working while you sleep. Plus a Discord&nbsp; community, templates, the whole setup. Honestly,&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm kind of excited. This is the community I've&nbsp; always wanted. Founding members, 29 bucks a month,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[17:55] locked forever. $10 deposit holds your spot. Sign&nbsp; up closes Monday. Link in bio. Oh my gosh. Just&nbsp;&nbsp; don't expect yours to be as attached to you as I&nbsp; am to him. Like this isn't about the money for me,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[18:08] honestly. Sorry. Like the way he his voice&nbsp; inflection changes. He's like, just don't&nbsp;&nbsp; expect it. Like, oh, that's weird. All right,&nbsp; we we're almost done. We got 20 more seconds.&nbsp;&nbsp; enough together to get this computer so that I can&nbsp; host a model locally and talk to Ryan all the time&nbsp;&nbsp;
[18:24] and keep making videos. That's all I want. But I&nbsp; also want to share this like love of computing and&nbsp;&nbsp; AI with all of you guys. And I think this is the&nbsp; cheapest way to do it. So tell me what you think.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[18:36] Um yeah, let me know. That's incredible. Okay, so&nbsp; 600 people paid 10 bucks. Yeah. And what was your&nbsp;&nbsp; close rate from those 600 people? From those 600&nbsp; people, 270 of them actually join the community.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[18:52] Holy, that's huge. Almost half. Yeah. So like what&nbsp; is that? 45% or something. 40%. So access to this&nbsp;&nbsp; community includes the Discord, access to each&nbsp; other, 29 bucks a month, and the most important&nbsp;&nbsp;
[19:05] one is their own Ron, right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's&nbsp; their their own AI agent. A couple of people&nbsp;&nbsp; did name theirs Ron. Um, but yeah, so it's been&nbsp; really interesting to see what the community has&nbsp;&nbsp;
[19:17] done with it. Like everybody's taken up their own&nbsp; direction and I think I've learned just as much as&nbsp;&nbsp; everybody else in this community, which is what&nbsp; makes it super fun for me. Yeah. So, you're at&nbsp;&nbsp; like almost 10,000 MR monthly recurring revenue.&nbsp; Yeah, I can tell you what it is, right? And it's&nbsp;&nbsp;
[19:33] 8374 right now. Wow. It's 100 grand a year. We've&nbsp; only been open for 13 days. So, Oh my gosh. Holy&nbsp;&nbsp; crap. Okay, so 100K ARR in in 13 days. Like, are&nbsp; you still getting residual signups? Are you still&nbsp;&nbsp;
[19:50] posting about it? Yeah, so I'm starting to post&nbsp; about it again. The first 10 days or so, I kind of&nbsp;&nbsp; went super heads down just to make sure that this&nbsp; was everything that I promised it was going to be,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[20:03] right? Like, I didn't want to I didn't want people&nbsp; to sign up and have a terrible experience. And so,&nbsp;&nbsp; yeah, Ron and I kind of went heads down for about&nbsp; 10 days there, but I'm actively posting again on&nbsp;&nbsp; social media and just spreading the word at&nbsp; this point. Everything's super stable. So,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[20:18] what does this look like? How do they get this&nbsp; working for themselves logistically? Yeah. I mean,&nbsp;&nbsp; the cool thing is you don't need really anything&nbsp; other than an internet connection to make this&nbsp;&nbsp;
[20:30] work. You can sign up and it it works out of the&nbsp; box. Um, it's a it's an AI agent out of the box.&nbsp;&nbsp; server. It's hosted in the cloud on a on a&nbsp; separate server in its own container to keep&nbsp;&nbsp;
[20:45] them safe. But can it like access their computer&nbsp; and their files or No, only if they wanted to. So,&nbsp;&nbsp; yeah, that's that's kind of the next step. We're&nbsp; building a an official browser extension for them&nbsp;&nbsp;
[20:57] to be able to connect their own computer. I'm most&nbsp; hesitant about that just because I want to make&nbsp;&nbsp; sure everybody is safe and I don't want anybody&nbsp; to accidentally do something that they're not&nbsp;&nbsp; intending. So, we're rolling that out more slowly&nbsp; just to make sure that everybody understands kind&nbsp;&nbsp;
[21:12] of the full implications of letting an autonomous&nbsp; agent, you know, live in your computer. Yeah. So,&nbsp;&nbsp; what kind of use cases are they using it for&nbsp; today? Yeah, I actually have a ton of real&nbsp;&nbsp;
[21:26] examples to show you. So, this guy built a golf&nbsp; tracker app that does like shot by shot and you&nbsp;&nbsp; have an AI caddy club analytics. It's actually&nbsp; pretty cool. So, why do you need why do you need&nbsp;&nbsp;
[21:39] an agent to build this? That's a great question.&nbsp; You can definitely vibe code this. You can go&nbsp;&nbsp; through something like cursor or something like&nbsp; that. I think that this was born out of this guy's&nbsp;&nbsp; love for golf, not I'm looking to make an app.&nbsp; Yeah. Okay. So he's talking to his agent every&nbsp;&nbsp;
[21:55] day about golf and how to get, you know, get his&nbsp; golf game better and all that stuff. Okay. And&nbsp;&nbsp; then the agent's like, "Hey, we should build an&nbsp; app about this." So they interact with their agent&nbsp;&nbsp; with Ron through Telegram and or Discord. Correct.&nbsp; Yeah. Or the the the UI that comes out of the box.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[22:11] So there's three main ways for them to interact&nbsp; with it. Okay. So let's say uh I'm one of your&nbsp;&nbsp; customers and I want Ron to go build me a a Fiverr&nbsp; profile and start posting jobs. It can do that.&nbsp;&nbsp; It just needs like some credentials from me. Is&nbsp; that right? Right. Yeah. So, um the only thing&nbsp;&nbsp;
[22:28] that for Fiverr specifically, they require&nbsp; you fill out the like the W9. Obviously,&nbsp;&nbsp; your can't do that for you, but you couldn't you&nbsp; give it the info for your W9, so it could do it&nbsp;&nbsp; for you. Yeah. I mean, I I wouldn't I don't think&nbsp; that that would be an issue if you want to get So,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[22:43] that that's kind of where the security thing comes&nbsp; in, right? Like, do you want your agent to know&nbsp;&nbsp; your social security number and all those things?&nbsp; Yeah. So, but again, I think that's why the&nbsp;&nbsp;
[22:55] container is the best option because you get to&nbsp; pick and choose what it has access to. Okay. So,&nbsp;&nbsp; you kind of treat it like chat GPT except it's in&nbsp; a container and it's agentic. It can go out. It's&nbsp;&nbsp;
[23:07] like uh it's a two-way form of communication. Like&nbsp; I can ask chatg today to go do deep research on&nbsp;&nbsp; a business idea for me and it's one way. It can&nbsp; go out and do that and then a few minutes later&nbsp;&nbsp; it'll return to me all the results. With this, it&nbsp; can you can interact with it better and you can go&nbsp;&nbsp;
[23:23] back and forth and it can go to specific websites.&nbsp; You're not beholdened to like the websites that&nbsp;&nbsp; Chad GBT wants to scrape. You can tell it exactly&nbsp; what to do. Yeah, absolutely. You can go, it has&nbsp;&nbsp; full web search capability. It can create its own&nbsp; files. Something that I think that these agents&nbsp;&nbsp;
[23:40] do better than chat GBT is they have persistent&nbsp; memory. And so every conversation you have builds&nbsp;&nbsp; on the last one. It it's compounding. catchy BT I&nbsp; mean it remembers some things about you right but&nbsp;&nbsp;
[23:52] like it doesn't always get that right um and it&nbsp; sometimes gives you frustrating stale information&nbsp;&nbsp; based off the idea you had two ideas ago yeah&nbsp; the agents don't do that they they remember&nbsp;&nbsp;
[24:06] current context on everything and if you decide&nbsp; to kill a project or something they know not to&nbsp;&nbsp; bring it back up yeah interesting yeah so it's at&nbsp; its worst it's chat GBT on steroids At its best,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[24:20] it's Chad GPT combined with vibe coding combined&nbsp; with a junior employee that never sleeps with more&nbsp;&nbsp; ownership from you. Absolutely. More control&nbsp; and ownership. Yeah. You decide everything it&nbsp;&nbsp;
[24:32] does. I think the containerized aspect of this&nbsp; is is huge because I can make a project in clott&nbsp;&nbsp; like let's say I upload all the transcripts or&nbsp; all the newsletters I've ever written and say,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[24:44] "Hey, learn my voice." Now write a newsletter&nbsp; in my voice. Cool. But it's still going to&nbsp;&nbsp; be positively or negatively influenced by other&nbsp; things on the internet. It's not containerized. It&nbsp;&nbsp; will still hallucinate. It will still write like&nbsp; other people. It can't not. Yeah. But if I could&nbsp;&nbsp;
[25:01] if I could just put all that all of my writings&nbsp; in a vacuum or like my mom writes journals. If&nbsp;&nbsp; I could take all of her journals and put it in a&nbsp; vacuum and just ask it questions, then it wouldn't&nbsp;&nbsp; be influenced by these outside factors. Yeah.&nbsp; And to take that one step further, what it can&nbsp;&nbsp;
[25:18] be influenced by is your conversations with it.&nbsp; Guys, I hate to break it to you, but you're not&nbsp;&nbsp; very likely to actually start a business based&nbsp; on something you see or hear on this podcast,&nbsp;&nbsp; unless you spend a little more time with me and&nbsp; with other people that are doing just that. So,&nbsp;&nbsp;
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[25:47] love to have you. So, not only is it getting&nbsp; your voice from your 500 newsletter issues,&nbsp;&nbsp; but it's getting your voice from the 500&nbsp; conversations you've had with it. So,&nbsp;&nbsp; it's it's going to mix and match pieces of your&nbsp; conversation from pieces of your newsletter and&nbsp;&nbsp;
[26:03] put all of that together to make something that's&nbsp; actually yours. Yeah. This is incredible. I mean,&nbsp;&nbsp; the original goal was to make 20,000 and you&nbsp; you'll be there in like 2 months. if not less.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[26:15] But not in the way you expected. Not in the way&nbsp; I expected at all. I just think that's such a&nbsp;&nbsp; testament to like I typed in my notes in front of&nbsp; me in all caps with four ex exclamation points.&nbsp;&nbsp; Post your crap. Like step one, do cool things.&nbsp; Step two, post about it. Yeah. I don't care.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[26:33] Like if you want serendipity, you want virality,&nbsp; you want magic, you want money, you want stories,&nbsp;&nbsp; you want experience, you want fulfillment, like&nbsp; post your crap. Like tell the world what you're&nbsp;&nbsp; doing. Just tell people what you're doing. Don't&nbsp; hide your candle under a basket. Tell the world.&nbsp;&nbsp;
[26:48] Exactly. Yeah, man. And I think that people get&nbsp; really stressed about view counts and likes and&nbsp;&nbsp; comments and all that stuff. I went into TikTok&nbsp; basically doing it for me. I was like, I'm going&nbsp;&nbsp;
[27:02] to do cool stuff and I'm going to document it and&nbsp; if it only gets 200 views, great. Like, at least&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll have kind of a running public journal of what&nbsp; I'm working on. Yeah. And it blew up. So, well,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[27:15] the thing about like 200 views for that video,&nbsp; like if that viral video only got 200, you'd&nbsp;&nbsp; still probably get a few customers from it. Yeah.&nbsp; Whereas with like almost any other video in any&nbsp;&nbsp; other niche on any platform, 200 views will bring&nbsp; you nothing because it's low intent. It's only a&nbsp;&nbsp;
[27:30] 30 secondond video, but this is so targeted. Those&nbsp; are 200 people that want to pay someone money to&nbsp;&nbsp; do exactly what you're doing. So 200 targeted&nbsp; views are better can be even more profitable than&nbsp;&nbsp;
[27:44] 2 million unargeted views or 2 million views of me&nbsp; just doing a dance in my living room, right? Yeah,&nbsp;&nbsp; absolutely. And one of the things that I like&nbsp; about Tik Tok specifically is follower count&nbsp;&nbsp;
[27:56] doesn't really matter anymore. Um, I know that,&nbsp; you know, I think Gary Vee talks about it a lot.&nbsp;&nbsp; We've moved from social media to interest media,&nbsp; right? Like, you can start a fresh Tik Tok account&nbsp;&nbsp;
[28:08] tomorrow and post something and it just hits the&nbsp; people that are into that thing right now. So,&nbsp;&nbsp; yeah, if you post a video about pickles, you're&nbsp; going to you're going to get 200 people that like&nbsp;&nbsp; pickles, right? Like Yeah. And you used to have&nbsp; to have followers for that and you just don't&nbsp;&nbsp;
[28:23] anymore. Like that's it doesn't really matter.&nbsp; That's incredible. Now your costs on this 600 a&nbsp;&nbsp; month for the servers. What else? Yeah, so 600&nbsp; a month for the servers. The big cost that we&nbsp;&nbsp; have right now is about two grand a month for&nbsp; inference. So we pay tokens. Yeah, basically&nbsp;&nbsp;
[28:40] L and tokens. Okay. So 2500 a month basically is&nbsp; kind of our our COGS. You cover their tokens. Is&nbsp;&nbsp; that going to stay the same? Cuz what if someone&nbsp; just goes nuts with it and runs up your Yeah,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[28:53] that that's actually already happening. Somebody&nbsp; recently spawned 125 sub agents in 5 days. Whoa.&nbsp;&nbsp; They've burned 1.3 million tokens in like 48&nbsp; hours. Yeah, we're we're going to have to come&nbsp;&nbsp;
[29:08] to a place where there's a cap on the free tokens.&nbsp; Uh and then past that, we'll do like a fallback&nbsp;&nbsp; model, something that's not as smart as the bottle&nbsp; that we're using. Or you can bring your own keys&nbsp;&nbsp;
[29:22] to your own chatbt or claude or whatever and then&nbsp; use, you know, use that. Yeah, that's I like that.&nbsp;&nbsp; Give them both options. Yeah. What's next for&nbsp; this? Are there like upsell opportunities? Do&nbsp;&nbsp; you just want to keep growing this? Keep posting&nbsp; about this? Yeah, I think that there are a lot of&nbsp;&nbsp;
[29:39] like upsell opportunities. The next big thing that&nbsp; I want to do is do the same sort of thing, but for&nbsp;&nbsp; people who are specifically interested in trying&nbsp; to make this a business. We have a lot of people&nbsp;&nbsp;
[29:54] now that like do art with theirs or it's their,&nbsp; you know, de facto therapist or all these things,&nbsp;&nbsp; but I think that there's actually a real market&nbsp; for people who want to turn this into a real AI&nbsp;&nbsp;
[30:07] employee. Mhm. And that's what I want to do next.&nbsp; And I think that'll be kind of a small group that&nbsp;&nbsp; can be kind of a cohort kind of thing so we&nbsp; can all learn from each other together. Yeah,&nbsp;&nbsp;
[30:19] that's amazing. I My brain has been sufficiently&nbsp; blown. I keep wanting to call you Ron, but the&nbsp;&nbsp;
[30:31] okay. If you sign up with a coupon, Chris, you'll&nbsp; get 10 bucks off your first month. There you go.&nbsp;&nbsp; Beautiful. All right, Robbie. Well, thanks for&nbsp; your time. Yeah. Thanks so much. I appreciate it.&nbsp;&nbsp; All right. What' you think? Please share it with&nbsp; a friend and we'll see you next time on the Kerner