[0:00] Heat. Heat.
[0:29] Hey,
[0:36] hey,
[0:42] hey.
[1:11] Hello, welcome, welcome, welcome back to
[1:13] New Rockstars. I'm Eric Boss. We're
[1:15] going to be reacting to the new trailer
[1:17] for Spider-Man Brand New Day that just
[1:19] dropped noon Pacific time, 3 Eastern
[1:21] time, and some other time depending on
[1:24] where you live around the world. Uh,
[1:25] this trailer I I really just got a
[1:27] chance to look at it. Now, we're going
[1:28] to have our proper frame by frame
[1:30] analysis that's going to be publishing
[1:31] to the New Rockstars channel later
[1:33] today. Uh, we're going to take our time
[1:35] with it. We're going to find everything
[1:36] that you might have missed in it. In
[1:37] this video, I'm just going to be
[1:38] reacting to it. I I don't know if we'll
[1:40] do a full proper reaction to it, but
[1:42] we'll kind of go through it together. I
[1:44] want to see if you and I can experience
[1:47] some interesting discoveries at the same
[1:50] time. I'm here to answer your questions
[1:51] the best that I can. I want to hear your
[1:54] impressions. I want to hear your
[1:55] reactions. What what most excites your
[1:57] curiosity from this trailer? Uh what do
[2:00] you think is going on in this movie?
[2:01] What are you most excited to see? What
[2:03] are your theories? What are your ideas?
[2:04] Hit me up in the chat. You can uh do a
[2:08] super chat if you want. If you're
[2:09] generous, uh you can just try to chat in
[2:11] general. I'll really really try to
[2:13] answer your questions. I really
[2:14] appreciate all of you. Um
[2:17] uh so we're just getting the the stream
[2:20] started right now. How's the audio
[2:21] sounding?
[2:22] >> It sounds great, but it is a little
[2:24] desyncted everybody.
[2:26] >> Cool. We're going to fix that right now.
[2:27] >> Um yeah,
[2:28] >> thank you guys for joining. Uh 1,600 of
[2:31] you. Holy crap. Thanks so much. It might
[2:33] be less distracting if I do this. Uh
[2:36] I've realized Hey, thank you all. Here,
[2:39] here. Let's get Let's get some Oh, here
[2:42] we go. Uh, thank you all so much for
[2:44] joining the stream. Brian's here
[2:46] figuring out the synchronization issue.
[2:48] Um, we're going to be reacting to this
[2:50] trailer.
[2:52] Do you guys Hello. Can you How is this?
[2:57] We're still getting started here uh as
[3:00] we're going to be going through this
[3:01] trailer bit by bit. Um, if uh we're
[3:04] sorry about the synchronization issue.
[3:05] This just happens sometimes and we have
[3:07] so many of you joining us at the same
[3:09] time. Um, and uh we we'll figure this
[3:12] out before we get going so it won't be
[3:14] too distracting. Um,
[3:20] oh, it says fixed. Are we fixed? Are we
[3:22] good?
[3:22] >> Mostly there. I'll just do a slight
[3:24] adjustment.
[3:25] >> Oh, a slight adjustment.
[3:27] >> The slightest bit of adjustment.
[3:29] >> I am a very model lover major general.
[3:32] Uh,
[3:35] okay. Great. I I think I think it's
[3:39] Yeah, I I think it's most of the way
[3:40] there. Clap.
[3:42] Did that sync up for you guys? Let Let
[3:44] us know.
[3:45] >> Let us know. Um, Berg's not in the
[3:49] studio. Um,
[3:52] unfortunately. Um, but he is, uh, in the
[3:55] chat, so be nice to Berg in the chat.
[3:58] Uh, ask him your whale questions. He's
[4:01] still obsessed with Whalefall. Um, okay.
[4:03] We're going to go forth with this. Uh,
[4:06] and we're going to go through this
[4:07] trailer bit by bit. Uh, oh, I love that.
[4:10] Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, again, if you want
[4:13] have if you have specific questions, if
[4:15] you have specific theories or thoughts,
[4:17] um, if you're a member, I'll I'll see it
[4:19] there. If you hit us up with a super
[4:21] chat, I'll see it there. Or I'll try to
[4:22] just answer it if I just see it through
[4:24] this rapidly uh ex uh streaming chat
[4:28] window.
[4:30] Um, we got a thought here from goodness
[4:33] producer. They definitely have bigger
[4:34] surprises like Gan Gray or Greyhulk in
[4:37] it. Yeah, we'll talk about Greyhulk in
[4:39] this stream. Uh, there was this
[4:40] interview that came out from Fandango
[4:42] earlier today that we're going to do a
[4:44] separate video about on the New Rockstar
[4:45] channel tomorrow that goes into all the
[4:47] weird little things that the cast
[4:48] accidentally revealed in that interview.
[4:50] Specifically, that Greyhulk. We're going
[4:51] to see the Greyhulk form in this. Uh,
[4:53] but let's talk about Savage Hulk first.
[4:55] Um, okay. So, I'm going to go through
[4:57] just some interesting things from this.
[4:58] again. Full Easter egg breakdown is
[5:01] going to be coming to the channel later
[5:02] today. Uh, so Peter is confronting Matt
[5:05] Gargan Scorpion here. Um, he's back with
[5:09] this awesome looking new suit. It
[5:11] actually looks really great. Uh, I don't
[5:12] know how he broke out of prison. I don't
[5:14] know who's giving him this new suit, but
[5:15] he did threaten to cut off Peter
[5:17] Parker's head and put it in a dryer back
[5:19] in Spider-Man Homecoming. Um, what's
[5:21] crazy about this shot, I believe in the
[5:24] opening of this, yeah, we have two DODC
[5:26] soldiers here. They are frozen. Gan
[5:29] Gray, Satie Sink, has used her powers to
[5:32] freeze them. She's going to be part of
[5:33] whatever this this fight scene is. I
[5:36] don't know the the context of this, but
[5:37] a lot of people are like breaking out of
[5:39] prisons in this footage.
[5:42] Um, so in this, we also see Peter's eye.
[5:46] I I love the repeated macro close-ups of
[5:49] Peter's eye under his mask. An
[5:51] impossible shot. you'd have to use some
[5:52] kind of like VFX or whatever to get the
[5:56] lens that close to his face.
[5:58] Realistically, it's like Tom Holland's
[6:00] face darkened as if it was under a mask
[6:03] uh wearing some kind of contact or they
[6:04] black out his eye with VFX. But man, it
[6:07] looks really really cool whenever we see
[6:09] this in the trailer. Um Peter's
[6:13] questioning what's going on with himself
[6:16] here.
[6:18] Uh yeah, fights going on.
[6:20] >> Um
[6:22] So, one of the things that we saw in the
[6:24] first trailer was Peter kind of
[6:26] Instagram stalking Ned. He does follow
[6:28] Ned. Um Ned's uh profile is uh I believe
[6:32] the Grateful Ned 42 in the Easter egg
[6:34] breakdown. I'm getting get into some
[6:36] theories of why the number 42 is
[6:38] interesting. Obviously, the number from
[6:40] Douglas Adams Hitchhiker's Guide to the
[6:41] Galaxy, the answer to all things in the
[6:44] universe, uh the Jackie Robinson number,
[6:45] the Miles G. Morales number, the spider
[6:48] that bit Miles Morales and Into the
[6:49] Spider-Verse. Earth 42 is a very
[6:51] important dimension as we're going to
[6:52] see beyond the Spider-Verse and the
[6:54] history and the future of Miles Morales
[6:56] potentially in live action as well. Hey,
[6:58] thank you for your super chat. The dear
[7:01] Yaj, are the trailers hiding a potential
[7:03] symbiote? I mean, if they're hiding, we
[7:05] wouldn't see it. Um, look, a lot of
[7:08] people are saying like the way this
[7:10] consciousness jumps from person to
[7:12] person, is there actually some kind of
[7:14] symbiote that's quickly jumping from
[7:15] them? I don't know. I think it's coming
[7:17] from Gan Gray's uh powers, from Satie
[7:20] Sinks characters powers. I don't know if
[7:22] it's a symbiote. Um, but I do think at
[7:25] some point we're going to see Tom
[7:26] Holland, Peter Parker interact with a
[7:28] symbiote, with a Venom. Um, I think
[7:30] that's just going to happen in Secret
[7:32] Wars. I think that's something that we
[7:33] could see in a post-redit scene. I think
[7:34] if if they were going to do it in this
[7:36] movie, they would have done more with
[7:37] that Tom Hardy postredit scene from
[7:39] Spider-Man No Way Home, but you know,
[7:42] Tom Holland did say that he went through
[7:43] all of social media. Every New Rockstars
[7:46] video, he might not have said New
[7:48] Rockstars, but you know, every Reddit
[7:49] thread asking people what they most
[7:52] wanted to see or just kind of lurking to
[7:54] see what people really wanted to see
[7:56] that even like a fanervicey film like
[7:58] Spider-Man No Way Home still did not
[8:00] deliver the goods on. And part of that
[8:02] is a a street level story. Part of that
[8:04] is a more Andrew Garfield, Tobey Maguire
[8:07] vibe suit. Um, some of that is probably
[8:10] teaming up with the Hulk and Punisher
[8:12] uh, fighting the Hand, I guess. Um, I
[8:14] assume some of that is team up
[8:16] Spider-Man with the X-Men. And yeah,
[8:17] there's probably going to be people who
[8:19] were like, I want to see more of
[8:20] Spider-Man and Daredevil working
[8:22] together. I want to see more of
[8:23] Spider-Man and Venom working together.
[8:24] So maybe that is a note that Tom Holland
[8:26] took and that's going to be something
[8:27] that's addressed in this movie's
[8:28] postredit scene. We got to have the
[8:30] black suited Spider-Man somehow. I just
[8:32] don't know if this story is going to get
[8:34] it. I don't, you know, uh Amy Pascal
[8:36] even said that this movie is not about
[8:38] like a global crisis the way past ones
[8:40] were. It's more about a a street level
[8:43] story, an introspective journey for
[8:45] Peter Parker. Tom Holland said in the
[8:47] Fandango interview, it's not so much
[8:48] about saving the city or saving the
[8:50] world, it's about saving himself. And I
[8:53] don't know if you can say that there is
[8:54] an alien an alien symbiote in that type
[8:58] of scale of a story.
[9:01] Um yeah, Dave is also saying um Gan Gray
[9:04] is the big bad jumping from person to
[9:05] person based off of this trailer. I mean
[9:07] Satie Sink seems kind of villainous in
[9:09] what she's saying. How you know like
[9:11] she's threatening MJ. That kind of feels
[9:14] like a villainous type thing. Um, what's
[9:17] also kind of sad about this is like in
[9:19] this part of the trailer, Peter Parker
[9:21] is um not just like following Ned and MJ
[9:24] for their first day at MIT. This is now
[9:27] them in their final semester at MI MIT,
[9:29] which means for 4 years, unless they
[9:32] graduated early. For four years, this
[9:34] sad sack has been stalking Ned on
[9:37] Instagram, watching every single one of
[9:39] his stories. Imagine like when you're a
[9:40] high school kid, your friends go to
[9:42] college.
[9:44] Like, yeah, your lives go in separate
[9:46] ways. Are you really following them
[9:49] every Instagram post with the same sad
[9:51] look? What does that say about Peter
[9:53] Parker? He was never able to find new
[9:55] friends and move on even after, you
[9:57] know, the the Doctor Strange spell
[9:59] erased him from memory. He could have
[10:01] started over with the name Maynard, as
[10:03] he tells them his name is in the scene
[10:05] that I saw at Cineon, and like made new
[10:07] friends. Why? Uh, or he could have said,
[10:10] "My name's Peter." You know, because no
[10:11] one knows the name Peter Parker anyway.
[10:13] It's really sad to imagine this. It's
[10:15] also really sad that like Ned and MJ
[10:17] just became stronger and stronger
[10:19] friends during all that time. And they
[10:21] were not a trio, but a duo. But
[10:23] somewhere in MJ's heart, she's like,
[10:26] she's just so messed up by that spell.
[10:28] Like, why do I wear this necklace? I
[10:30] feel like there was another friend that
[10:32] we forgot about. Uh, imagine how creepy
[10:34] it is if at some point you're going to
[10:36] find out you had this other friend,
[10:38] lifelong friend that you accidentally
[10:40] ghosted over the past several years.
[10:43] That's why I think this movie, just
[10:44] dealing with the ramifications of the
[10:46] Doctor Strange spell is such an
[10:48] interesting story before you even bring
[10:50] in Hulk and Gan Gray and Punisher and
[10:52] the Hand and all this other stuff. just
[10:54] dealing with that is like a
[10:56] heartbreaking story that makes it makes
[10:58] it really exciting to me. Not only that
[10:59] they brought back um Eric Summers and
[11:01] Chris McKenna, but that they're bringing
[11:03] in Justin Critzy's to to help write that
[11:05] story. I think that is just a
[11:06] heartbreaking interesting story.
[11:09] Um yeah, to answer your question, I
[11:11] think Jackal is I don't know if he's
[11:12] going to be the main villain, but I do
[11:14] think that it's going to be the
[11:15] character Keith David is playing. We
[11:16] don't hear his voice in this trailer,
[11:18] but the whole spiders have three life
[11:20] cycles. I think there is going to be a
[11:22] Dr. Miles Warren, professor in the
[11:24] faculty of Empire State University. Main
[11:27] villain. I don't know about that,
[11:28] though. Uh, but Keith David is certainly
[11:30] capable and cool enough to be a main
[11:32] villain. I just think we would have
[11:33] heard about him if they he was going to
[11:35] be that important. We're only a month
[11:36] out, you know, 6 weeks out. Um, do we
[11:39] think the main villain is still not
[11:40] shown yet? Is it not Hulk or Jean Gray?
[11:42] Thank you for your super chat. Uh, two
[11:44] of KN Scoops. What's going on? Yeah. Um,
[11:49] yes. Um, I I think at this point we are
[11:53] seeing um we're seeing villainous
[11:56] presence. I don't
[12:00] like bad. I think there's a lot of
[12:01] villains that Peter Parker is facing in
[12:03] this, but like a story, even a superhero
[12:06] story doesn't always need a villain to
[12:08] be a good movie. Sometimes the vi like
[12:11] arguably I guess Spider-Man No Way Home
[12:13] Green Goblin ended up being a villain,
[12:15] but was he the same villain that Peter
[12:16] Parker was facing all three acts of that
[12:18] movie or just a consequence of the
[12:20] bigger crisis that Peter Parker was
[12:22] handling in that movie? Uh I don't know
[12:25] if like it's fair to say Green Goblin
[12:27] was the only big bad of that story
[12:30] despite him killing Aunt May. Um I just
[12:32] saw Toy Story 5 and I think that's a
[12:34] great example. You know, Pixar as a
[12:36] studio started in this model of having
[12:38] these rules that they were going to do
[12:40] to differentiate themselves from Disney
[12:42] animated films. And one of their rules
[12:43] was we're not going to have a villain.
[12:45] Now, obviously they backpedal from that.
[12:47] You know, um the Incredibles movies have
[12:49] villain. Lotso is a is a villain. U but
[12:52] I think Toy Story 5 reminds me a lot of
[12:54] Toy Story 1 in that there isn't like a
[12:58] definitive villain of the story. And I
[13:00] wonder if like just biology um um just
[13:03] the consequences of having to make
[13:05] sacrifices to better off your friends
[13:07] could be kind of the the op the
[13:09] antagonist of this movie and everything
[13:11] else is a consequence of that. Um or it
[13:14] could be like whatever nefarious human
[13:16] corporation is trying to weaponize gamma
[13:18] radiation detection technology. If you
[13:21] want me if you're going to press me to
[13:22] find a villain of that, it's going to be
[13:23] something like OCRP or the DODC.
[13:26] Um thank you for your super chat, Sarah.
[13:28] Did you watch the Ned promo vid of him
[13:30] launching his Spidey tracking app? I did
[13:32] watch that. Do you think Peter is being
[13:33] able to move when everyone else is
[13:34] frozen could be tied to how he can also
[13:36] move his physical body while in the
[13:37] astral plane? Yes, that is something
[13:38] that we go into in the Easter egg
[13:39] breakdown coming later today. Remember
[13:41] in Spider-Man No Way Home when Doctor
[13:43] Strange pushes Peter's astral form out
[13:44] of his body and Peter can use the Spidey
[13:47] sense as his astral form to still puppet
[13:49] his physical body. I think having the
[13:50] arachno frequency and that um in that
[13:53] spidey sense allows pet Peter to bypass
[13:56] certain magical attacks and even mutant
[13:59] powers that cause people's bodies to
[14:01] freeze. So I think that is why it
[14:03] doesn't affect Peter.
[14:06] Um Wesley Clark, thank you for your
[14:09] super chat saying Jean getting her
[14:10] Professor X on with freeze and
[14:12] possession of folks. Yeah. Uh we'll get
[14:14] to that later in this video, but jumping
[14:16] ahead here. Um you're not wrong. I mean,
[14:19] the way her powers manifest by like I'm
[14:22] trying to find the exact moment. Yeah,
[14:24] she kind of jumps from person to person.
[14:26] >> You okay? You get rid of that monster
[14:29] inside.
[14:30] >> Yeah, that kind of controlling of their
[14:32] bodies. I also really like how they um
[14:35] how they coached all the extras in this
[14:37] movie to freeze in a particular way.
[14:39] Yeah, this shock wave emitting from
[14:42] Roosevelt Island. That looks like the
[14:45] same prison facility. That's not
[14:46] normally on Roosevelt Island in
[14:49] Manhattan. Um, that I think is a prison
[14:51] facility where Gan Gray is being kept.
[14:54] Um, Roosevelt Island, famous of the
[14:56] Roosevelt Island tramway that you saw in
[14:58] Sam Ramy's Spider-Man 1 and in
[15:00] Spider-Man No Way Home. Um, she's
[15:02] releasing these shock waves that freeze
[15:04] people. Look. Uh, I mean, all these
[15:06] extras, the way they just kind of bend
[15:08] their bodies, it's just really great.
[15:10] Uh, spilling the tea and freezing the
[15:12] chopsticks like that. That is something
[15:14] that was I I don't think we've seen Gan
[15:16] Gray in live action ever do that, but
[15:17] certainly Charles Xavier, Professor X,
[15:19] they have similar power sets, and I do
[15:21] think I do think Sadie Stink is playing
[15:23] Gan Gray. I think it's at this point
[15:25] hard to make any other argument. What's
[15:27] interesting here is, doesn't it look
[15:28] like Frank Castle's also not immune or
[15:32] also is immune? like he's being spared
[15:34] by by Gan Gray for whatever reason. That
[15:37] I have a lot of questions about. What
[15:38] powers does he have other than, you
[15:41] know, torturing himself? Like that to me
[15:44] is equally fascinating.
[15:47] Um, thank you for your super chat,
[15:50] Indian Warrior 3. Glad they actually
[15:51] released a trailer today, unlike what
[15:53] Russa Brothers did at Coffeegate.
[15:55] Excited for your breakdown. Keep it up.
[15:56] Thank you. Yeah. Uh, Marvel Studios, get
[16:00] your get your trailer out there for the
[16:02] love of God. This is how exciting things
[16:05] can be when we're all living in this
[16:06] moment together on YouTube and publicly,
[16:08] whatever platform we're on. Um, while
[16:11] Sony's marketing decisions have been a
[16:12] little weird, here we are during
[16:15] business daylight hours uh, in America
[16:18] and we're able to just react to a
[16:19] trailer. This is great marketing. I
[16:21] mean, uh, have you gotten your ticket
[16:22] yet for Spider-Man Brand New Day? I was
[16:24] able to get mine, but like the weight
[16:25] list was was almost as hard as many
[16:27] theaters for the Odyssey. Um, and the
[16:29] Odyssey was just like P pl PLF screens.
[16:32] This is just like any screen. A little
[16:33] bummer that uh Spider-Man Brand New Day
[16:35] doesn't appear to be on IMAX, but that's
[16:37] because the Odyssey is going to have all
[16:38] the IMAX screens wrapped up, but that
[16:40] might even be better for this movie. I
[16:42] think this movie is going to be best
[16:43] watched in Dolby if you have an
[16:44] opportunity to see it. Um, I just think
[16:47] any of the sound effects that they do
[16:48] with like the voices Peter hears, the
[16:52] roaring, the thipping, all this stuff,
[16:54] it's going to be really fun. And Dolby
[16:55] always does a good job. There they did
[16:57] have a promo today saying that they're
[16:58] going to do special stuff with Screen X
[17:00] where they actually shot specific
[17:02] bespoke footage that's going to be on
[17:03] the side screens for Screen X. Nothing
[17:06] against Screen X. I think certain movies
[17:07] are great to watch that way. I It's just
[17:10] not my preferred way. And I think but I
[17:12] do like hearing that they did try to
[17:13] shoot stuff specifically for that. But I
[17:16] also am someone who's a sucker for just
[17:17] the frame itself as it was. That to me
[17:20] is the cinematic tradition that we've
[17:22] been part of our entire lives. I don't
[17:24] need something to where I can look over
[17:26] here and ignore what's happening on the
[17:28] main screen and just be entertained over
[17:29] here. To me, that's not a cinematic
[17:31] experience. That's like a different kind
[17:33] of immersive experience. That's not
[17:35] necessarily not fun, but it's just not
[17:37] the cinematic experience that I am used
[17:40] to. Uh, another take here. Thank you for
[17:44] your super chat, Martin. I personally
[17:45] think Holland won't have the symbiote in
[17:47] a major way. Maybe just for Secret Wars,
[17:49] but I'd like to see a live action MCU
[17:50] Miles Morales deal dealing with a
[17:52] symbiote just to change it up a bit. I
[17:53] agree. I think uh I'd like to see how
[17:55] Miles reacts to a symbiote. Um, there is
[17:58] a liveaction Miles Morales who exists in
[18:00] the 616 universe. Donald Glover played
[18:03] Aaron Davis and talked about a nephew
[18:05] who lives in the area. So, he's already
[18:07] there. We just have to wait till after
[18:09] 2027 Spider-Man beyond the Spider-Verse
[18:11] before we're going to see that Miles in
[18:13] the MCU. So, it may be in Secret Wars.
[18:17] It may be in some Spider-Man movie,
[18:19] Spider-Man 5. Tom Holland has even said
[18:20] in an interview that he wants to be the
[18:21] mentor figure to the SpiderGwen or the
[18:23] Miles Morales uh the way Robert Downey
[18:26] Jr. was for him. So, I think it's going
[18:27] to happen.
[18:30] Uh, oh, another theory for symbiots.
[18:32] Thank you for your super chat. Um, could
[18:34] couldn't the dark eyes be a small dollop
[18:36] of goop symbiote turning Spidey little
[18:38] by little? I like that theory a lot. I
[18:41] uh I don't think that's exactly what it
[18:44] is, but you know what? I've been wrong
[18:45] before. Um I think that could work here.
[18:48] Let's take a look at that again. Um the
[18:51] black eyes is just it looks really good.
[18:54] It's just um the symbiote
[18:57] um doesn't necessarily just manifest in
[18:59] the eyes first. It does other things
[19:02] first. But um I really do like that
[19:04] theory. If it if that ends up being the
[19:06] case, I wouldn't be disappointed.
[19:09] Uh another question here. Do you think
[19:10] we get to see the Phoenix Force at the
[19:12] end scene that sets up Secret Wars?
[19:17] I I don't know if it would be the
[19:18] postredit scene of this movie because I
[19:20] think the postredit scene is going to be
[19:23] more singularly focused on Doomsday, but
[19:26] I think there will be another scene
[19:27] somewhere in this movie that hints at
[19:30] the fact that she has this other cosmic
[19:32] force that attaches to her. Over under
[19:35] 20% MJ remembers Peter Spider-Man by the
[19:38] end of the movie. I think over 20%. I
[19:40] think um MJ is I mean she's still
[19:42] wearing the black Dalia necklace that he
[19:44] got her in Far From Home. Um, I think
[19:47] there's part of her who is going to have
[19:50] her memory uh reattached. I think this
[19:53] movie is going to address the exact
[19:55] logic and mechanics of the memory wipe
[19:57] spell and how it might have warped
[19:59] reality in other ways. One of the things
[20:00] that the script pages a destined to
[20:03] entertainment weekly showed is that the
[20:05] opening Marvel titles of this movie are
[20:07] going to show like Back to the Future
[20:09] Marty McFly photos that just fade Peter
[20:11] Parker from the physical media evidence
[20:13] of his existence. So, there's pictures
[20:15] with Ned and MJ and Aunt May and then
[20:17] Peter's just going to fade from those.
[20:19] This movie isn't just quickly moving on
[20:20] from the events of No Way Home. It's
[20:22] it's readressing them in a way that I
[20:24] think could matter a lot to the history
[20:26] of the MCU. Um, and I think we're going
[20:29] to find out exactly what powers can
[20:30] overrule the ruins of Cough Call. And is
[20:33] there something about just love and
[20:35] affection that bypasses those borders of
[20:37] known and unknown realities? Could that
[20:39] be some kind of mechanism that can help
[20:42] the Avengers in Doomsday or Secret Wars?
[20:46] Uh, thank you for your super chat. Do
[20:47] you think they're going to do Hulk
[20:48] justice in this movie? What's your
[20:49] thoughts on Hulk specifically? All
[20:50] right, let's get to the Hulk of it all.
[20:54] Where are we, Mr. Hulk? Here we go. So,
[20:57] this Hulk just looks great in this. Can
[21:00] we just talk about him here? Uh, Peter's
[21:02] like, I didn't know you could get that
[21:03] big. I really, really love that detail.
[21:06] Um because normally Smart Hulk is only
[21:10] designed by the VFX animators to be 7
[21:13] foot 5 in, but Savage Hulk from Thor
[21:16] Ragnarok from Age of Ultron is meant to
[21:18] be 8'5 in. So they shrunk him a little
[21:21] bit to make him more, I don't know,
[21:23] humanistic intelligent approachable
[21:25] less of a monster. Uh but they also
[21:27] nerfed him by doing that. So letting him
[21:29] be as big as he is here lets the
[21:32] character be the character. Uh, it seems
[21:34] like Sades Sinks powers, uh, Gan Gay's
[21:37] powers are tapping into Bruce Banner
[21:39] subconscious or at least damages his,
[21:42] uh, Hulk suppressor, gamma suppressor
[21:44] device. I do think gamma radiation is
[21:47] going to be very important to this
[21:49] story. I think gamma radiation is kind
[21:51] of the key not only to the Hulk's
[21:52] powers, but I do think it's going to be
[21:54] the key to all mutant powers. I think uh
[21:56] there's a moment where Sadi Sink uh or
[21:59] repeater is kind of tracking her in this
[22:01] trailer through the wedding terrace
[22:04] where here I just saw it um where like
[22:09] uh there's like a numerical
[22:12] sorry about that
[22:15] here it is okay so what's going on here
[22:18] right I think these numbers refer to
[22:20] gamma radiation that uh is kind of
[22:23] presence present in the minds of the
[22:25] whom um who Satie Sinks or Gan Gray is
[22:30] kind of jumping into. Uh I don't think
[22:32] it's distance, right? Because that's
[22:34] 0.59, that's 5.31.
[22:37] I think it refers to like the amount of
[22:38] gamma radiation. That would be the only
[22:40] way any kind of technical interface
[22:42] could detect it. Uh if you look in the
[22:45] upper screen here, it's a Wi-Fi
[22:46] connected thing. I think this pet this
[22:48] is Peter's new AI service. EV stands for
[22:52] Eric Voss. Uh that is I'm just kidding.
[22:54] it's not my name uh that is detecting
[22:56] these things. Uh and I think there would
[22:58] have to be some kind of radiation
[22:59] signature left there. And if that's the
[23:02] case, it would mean that like genes gene
[23:03] gay's powers have a gamma radiation
[23:05] signature. And maybe every mutant has
[23:07] some kind of gamma radiation that makes
[23:09] them the way that they are, right? Maybe
[23:11] the Xgene kind of signals a type of
[23:14] gamma radiation. Uh maybe the gamma
[23:16] radiation is a signature that's left
[23:18] there by the runes of cough call that
[23:19] warped the reality in a specific way. I
[23:21] don't know. But he's detecting something
[23:23] that's some kind of physical trace that
[23:26] he's able to detect here. So that's why
[23:28] I think that's a connection I think uh
[23:30] with Bruce Banner. I think this if it is
[23:33] gamma radiation that could explain why
[23:35] it damages uh Bruce's device, why Bruce
[23:39] is Hulking out, why she's able to do
[23:41] this. Um in the interview that came out
[23:44] today, they indicated that a green Hulk
[23:46] is not going to be the only color of
[23:47] Hulk that we see in this movie. That
[23:49] there's going to be a gray Hulk as well.
[23:51] They didn't say gray, but they said that
[23:52] there are other colors. Jacob Battleon
[23:55] might have been referring to the fact
[23:56] that there are there's a red Hulk, but I
[23:58] think that was just him covering for
[23:59] Zenaia in that moment. I think we're
[24:01] going to see a further greyhulk form.
[24:03] Not necessarily a Joe fix it Vegas thug
[24:06] enforcer form, but like a greyhulk form
[24:08] that can speak in complete sentences and
[24:10] be willing to do morally corrupt things.
[24:12] Whereas Green Hulk isn't like evil. He's
[24:14] kind of chaotic neutral. Um, he's just
[24:16] kind of a rage monster who's just
[24:18] generally angry at anything that gets in
[24:20] his way.
[24:21] uh Greyhulk can control it a bit more
[24:23] focused and I think she's going to send
[24:25] him after whatever the proprietary gamma
[24:28] detection software and technology that
[24:30] the bad guys of this movie have whether
[24:32] it be the DODC or OC Corp or some other
[24:36] entity Horizon Labs Alchemax something.
[24:39] Um but isn't this cool how like we're in
[24:41] some kind of lab here. light projected
[24:44] on his chest and his traps here is like
[24:47] from some kind of uh digital readout
[24:49] that reminds me of the the raptor in
[24:51] Jurassic Park when the the DNA base
[24:54] pairs are projected on the raptor skin.
[24:56] I think one of my favorite Spielberg
[24:58] shots of that movie. Um we also get to
[25:01] see a Hulk thunderclap and isn't that
[25:03] just
[25:06] how I've missed the Hulk thunderclap? We
[25:08] haven't gotten a proper Thunderclap, I
[25:11] think, since the 2008 Hulk movie. Yeah,
[25:14] we got to see Thunderclaps in uh in
[25:15] She-Hulk. But that wasn't the same
[25:17] thing. It was more about showing how
[25:18] She-Hulk could quickly kind of coin flip
[25:20] and learn uh instinctively how to do
[25:23] Thunderclaps that were even more
[25:24] powerful than her cousins were. The fact
[25:26] that we get to see him use it on Peter
[25:28] Parker here is just like, "Yes,
[25:30] finally." The reason we haven't seen the
[25:32] Thunderclaps is Jos Sweden thought the
[25:33] move was lame and didn't put it in
[25:34] 2012's Avengers or 2015's Age of Ultron.
[25:37] Uh, the Russo brothers in general didn't
[25:40] really know how to like shoot the Hulk
[25:42] in a way that fit in the stories they
[25:43] were trying to tell, but clearly Destin
[25:45] Daniel [ __ ] loves the character and
[25:46] Tom Holland loves the character and is
[25:48] like restoring what we loved about the
[25:50] character.
[25:52] Um, another super chat. Thank you. Uh,
[25:54] do you think that Gene might mind
[25:56] control Frank for protection? Like maybe
[25:57] he's the most capable person to get her
[25:59] out of the prison. Yeah, maybe. I think
[26:00] there's some kind of the one connection
[26:02] I saw with uh Punisher: One Last Kill is
[26:04] that uh Frank is very easily susceptible
[26:08] to daughter figures who are being
[26:10] oppressed in some way. Like just seeing
[26:12] the Bodega owner's daughter being
[26:14] threatened in this movie reminded him of
[26:16] his daughter and I think he's going to
[26:19] transfer that to Satie Sinks character
[26:21] in this movie. So I think there's going
[26:23] to be like a protective relationship. We
[26:25] just haven't seen the two of them in a
[26:27] scene in the trailer yet. Interesting
[26:29] that we saw Frank Castle and Zenaia MJ
[26:32] in a scene yet. Do you still think
[26:34] Daredevil is a possibility? I do. I do.
[26:37] Even though like Charlie Cox has made it
[26:39] very clear that he doesn't want us to
[26:41] think that he's in this movie. It's
[26:43] these scenes with the hand. Like we have
[26:45] a lot of different shots with the hand
[26:47] and we don't see the shot in this
[26:48] trailer, but like Tom Holland did say in
[26:50] the interview that like they really did
[26:52] 65 takes at least to get the shot that
[26:54] we had in the previous trailer where we
[26:56] think like someone was scrubbed out of
[26:57] it. Andrew Garfield take a look at that
[26:59] took a look at that scrubbed out photo
[27:00] and just said like, "Well, you can say
[27:02] anybody was scrubbed out of anything."
[27:04] Um, I don't know. I believe Charlie Cox
[27:06] when he says this, but I also I can't
[27:08] believe any of these actors when they
[27:09] say anything.
[27:13] Uh, thank you for your super chat. Since
[27:15] they are kind of following the Neoenics
[27:17] nightmare, when the character jumping
[27:18] person to person be an updated
[27:20] chameleon, I you know more about that
[27:23] than I do. Um, I think that is clearly
[27:26] at this point in the trailer some kind
[27:27] of effect of of Sadi Sink's power set.
[27:30] It is something that is psychic and
[27:32] telepathic in a specific way. Uh, it's
[27:34] something that can manifest in physical
[27:36] changes. So, I think you could look at
[27:38] things in different lenses and kind of
[27:40] make a case for whatever your theory is,
[27:41] but I just think the most logical
[27:43] explanation for what we're seeing is
[27:44] that this is how the MCU Gan Gray is
[27:46] going to work.
[27:49] Uh, seems like Pun Pun will be watching
[27:51] over MJ. Uh, also is Marissa Toé
[27:54] narrating at the end. Um, that is
[27:57] Marissa Toé's voice at the end of it.
[28:00] Um, that Peter is I I don't know. It's
[28:02] interesting that they bring back Marissa
[28:03] Toé to say a bit of wisdom. I kind of
[28:05] wonder, are we going to see a flashback
[28:07] with Aunt May? I think we must. Um,
[28:11] thank you for asking that twice. I
[28:12] really appreciate that. Um, thank you
[28:15] for your super chat, Marco saying, I
[28:17] think Gan Gray in this instance is a
[28:18] consequence of great power without
[28:20] responsibility. It might be showing that
[28:22] Gan Gray without the X-Men guidance
[28:23] suggest a very moral question morally
[28:26] questionable behavior. I love that
[28:28] interpretation. Yeah, I think you're
[28:29] right. I think like there's a lot of
[28:31] characters who with uh are going to have
[28:34] great power but no responsibility.
[28:35] That's going to be advice that a lot of
[28:37] characters take. And I I think that's
[28:38] going to be the core reason why you
[28:40] introduce Gan Gray in a Spider-Man movie
[28:42] is that you need to see young, very
[28:44] powerful characters in the MCU that
[28:47] don't really know what to do with their
[28:48] powers and and then blame the oppression
[28:50] they're feeling on everybody without
[28:52] realizing that, oh, despite the people
[28:54] who scorn and hate you, you still owe
[28:57] the world the best application of your
[28:59] powers. Um, yeah. Yeah, and that's a
[29:02] hard lesson to learn if you have someone
[29:04] like, you know, Jean Gray who's being
[29:07] imprisoned by the DODC.
[29:09] Oh, a theory here from Bohob. Thanks for
[29:11] the super chat. Sticking with my theory
[29:12] that the eyes are actually mutation
[29:14] derived from instant kill mode. The
[29:16] coloration feels similar. Maybe he's
[29:18] mutating uh attributes inspired from
[29:21] certain people like organic webbing from
[29:23] Toby. Really, really cool theory there.
[29:25] Remember instant kill mode? how it was
[29:27] like this intimidation voice that he
[29:28] used on uh Donald Glover's character in
[29:31] Spider-Man Homecoming. It was from a
[29:32] Spider-Man Homecoming affect that in
[29:34] addition to his arachn frequency picking
[29:37] up tips and design a effects from uh his
[29:39] brothers Toby and Andrew from their
[29:41] alternate universes that just the Stark
[29:44] tech mode uh there's certain kind of
[29:46] benefits um of those of those suits and
[29:50] features that he might have
[29:51] internalized. Um, I like that idea that
[29:55] there could be an organic version of
[29:56] instant kill mode. I think we want to be
[29:58] very careful doing too much Stark tech
[30:00] in this movie. I think that is a lesson
[30:02] that they're really trying to apply. But
[30:03] if there is like an organic take on it
[30:05] the same way we have organic webbing, I
[30:06] think that could be really fun. Yeah,
[30:08] answered this question earlier. I I do
[30:10] think there's still a chance I think
[30:11] just a small chance that Daredevil's
[30:13] going to be in this movie. But thanks
[30:14] for the super chat. Um, another question
[30:16] here. By chance, do you think the hood
[30:18] on Satie Synync is just for the trailers
[30:20] and won't be a hood at all for the
[30:21] actual movie? I do think this is how
[30:23] she's going to be dressed in the movie.
[30:25] Um I don't think that's just like a
[30:27] digitally added thing. Um because we've
[30:30] seen her in set photos wearing this kind
[30:31] of outfit. Oh, sorry. It's earlier in
[30:34] the trailer.
[30:36] Um
[30:38] yeah, I I think that's how she's going
[30:40] to look in the movie. I don't think
[30:41] they're they're hiding anything here.
[30:44] But it is interesting that she's in
[30:45] Peter Parker's apartment. That's
[30:47] something I can't figure out is like
[30:50] she she's in his home. I I'll admit it's
[30:52] weird that her face is completely
[30:54] blacked out like a Sith or something
[30:55] like that. Um like maybe we'll see more
[30:58] of her face in the final cut of the
[31:00] trailer and trying to hide it, but like
[31:01] we all know this is Sadi Sink. I don't
[31:03] know why they would hide her face that
[31:04] much in this shot unless there's
[31:06] something particular about her face that
[31:09] you know would spoil it.
[31:12] Uh thanks for your super chat. Could the
[31:14] monster inside you that Gene refers to
[31:16] on the trailer be a reference or hint to
[31:17] a possible man spider mutation? You
[31:20] know, uh, with the second trailer, I
[31:22] was, uh, more bullish on the man spider
[31:25] theory that Peter's mutation is going to
[31:28] have him grow extra arms. Uh, I think we
[31:31] might just get a hint to that and maybe
[31:34] like kind of a nightmare that he has or
[31:35] a hallucination or or I think it might
[31:38] be a brief thing that we see, but I
[31:40] don't think it's going to be a big part
[31:41] of this movie. I think it's just a
[31:43] little too freaky and weird for a movie
[31:45] that they want to make $2 billion. I
[31:47] think it's it it can be part it can be a
[31:49] glimpse of something, but I don't think
[31:51] it's going to be a big like, you know,
[31:53] American Werewolf in London type plot
[31:55] where his body just starts getting that
[31:57] freaky.
[31:59] Will Hulk remember Peter like in the
[32:00] comics? Yeah, this is a question we've
[32:02] uh addressed a lot. Um will um does Hulk
[32:06] does a savage Hulk form remember who
[32:09] Peter Parker is? The argument I've made
[32:11] is that Hulk, this Savage Hulk form
[32:13] never knew that Peter Parker was
[32:15] Spider-Man. that they never were
[32:18] together at the same time. And Hulk is
[32:20] always so angry. I don't think he's like
[32:21] collecting information like that and
[32:23] storing it the same way we do. Um, they
[32:26] were in the Central Park battle, but
[32:27] that was before, you know, Hulk was off
[32:30] world for most of the time Peter Parker
[32:32] was with the Avengers. He we saw him in
[32:34] Infinity War going, "Wait, there's an
[32:36] Ant-Man and a Spider-Man." But that
[32:37] point Peter was off world on the Q ship
[32:39] going to Titan and then he dusted on
[32:41] Titan. Um, now obviously he probably
[32:43] would have picked up some information as
[32:45] he was Mark Ruffalo human or uh um Bruce
[32:49] Banner form. Uh, his Peter Parker's face
[32:52] was among the dusted victims at the
[32:54] beginning of Endgame. So, he probably
[32:55] figured it out from there. But at that
[32:57] point, you know, Savage Hulk never
[32:58] really came out and after getting beaten
[33:00] by Thanos in Infinity War. So, Smart
[33:02] Hulk obviously would know, but I don't
[33:03] know if Savage Hulk would know that
[33:05] information. So, it's it's kind of hard
[33:07] to know.
[33:09] Okay. Yeah, let's look at this part of
[33:11] the trailer when he sees Ned's research
[33:14] wall. I believe there are some fun
[33:16] Easter eggs here. Um, this whole idea of
[33:20] a Latino parkour prodigy. Obviously,
[33:22] there's a Miguel O'Hara, a Latino
[33:24] Spider-Man who exists in the multiverse,
[33:25] but this is Carlos Rodriguez, someone
[33:27] else. Um, uh, I think we find a lot of
[33:31] fun look alikes, and I think there will
[33:33] be, um, some Easter eggs in this that I
[33:35] I will be breaking down. Uh the whole
[33:37] idea of a queen's accent is very very
[33:39] funny to me because um Tom Holland
[33:41] deliberately choosing to do a Queen's
[33:43] accent is part of the reason why this
[33:45] all works. Um
[33:47] but uh it's like the fact that Tom
[33:49] Holland doesn't just do a generic
[33:50] Brooklyn accent. Um I think I I don't
[33:54] know. I have a theory this might be
[33:55] Harry Holland. This might be Tom's
[33:57] brother. Looking at it now, I don't
[33:58] know. I think it's just another kind of
[33:59] boy who looks like this. Um, they call
[34:02] him 5'7 and a half, which is really
[34:04] funny because it's one is half an inch
[34:05] shorter than Tom Holland actually is.
[34:08] Um,
[34:09] yeah, there's a there's a fun detail
[34:11] from the Cineacon scene that I saw where
[34:13] like Ned thinks like the Flash, like you
[34:16] not the Flash, Flash, Eugene Thompson is
[34:19] uh is a suspect along with Mr.
[34:21] Harrington. So, I think there's just
[34:22] like a lot of fun fun bits that they're
[34:25] going to be doing here.
[34:31] Thanks for your super chat. As soon as
[34:32] my son uh Kawa and I saw the wedding
[34:35] cake, we thought it was Zenaia on the
[34:36] drama. Is she getting married again?
[34:38] Whose wedding is that? I predict Peter
[34:40] asks MJ to marry her in the ending. I I
[34:42] have not seen the drama yet. I know
[34:44] generally what it's about. I love this
[34:46] shot in the trailer when he does knock
[34:48] over that wedding cake. It's very funny.
[34:50] >> One we can't even see.
[34:52] >> I'm looking for the shot in particular,
[34:55] but I know what you're talking about.
[34:57] Um, yeah, you know, Tom and Zenaia in
[35:00] real life are married. That was
[35:02] confirmed. Um, we all kind of knew they
[35:05] were married for several months now, but
[35:07] he confirmed it recently in an
[35:08] interview. Um, I think if if MJ is still
[35:13] trying to remember that she had a third
[35:15] or had had another friend, a third of
[35:17] that trio, I think jumping straight to a
[35:20] proposal would be a little premature.
[35:22] Uh, I don't know. I don't know if like
[35:24] MJ and Peter are going to end up
[35:26] together in this movie. I think that's
[35:27] just like too hard. I don't know if
[35:29] they're each other's forever people. And
[35:30] I think part of this is going to be um
[35:33] Peter learning to move on.
[35:38] Hell yeah. Go Nicks.
[35:41] Um yeah. Uh in this Let's see if there's
[35:44] any shots where Daredevil could appear.
[35:46] I don't think Daredevil's in the prison
[35:48] here.
[35:49] I mean, I don't know. I mean, this is
[35:51] like my favorite stunt in the trailer.
[35:53] Look at that. So cool.
[35:57] >> Maybe in the final shot where Peter's
[35:59] jumping from the rubble.
[36:01] Yeah, I don't think we see
[36:05] Daredevil here though. Isn't it
[36:06] interesting this building? Is it the
[36:08] Empire State Building or is it some
[36:10] other building that's way taller than
[36:12] the other buildings of New York? Like
[36:13] look, there's no other skyscrapers here.
[36:16] Um,
[36:17] kind of looks like Empire State or it
[36:19] could be a new tower,
[36:21] an Oscorp tower or something like that.
[36:24] I don't think I'm not seeing any shots
[36:25] where Daredevil might have been scrubbed
[36:26] out.
[36:29] Yes, I agree JC. I think uh like the
[36:32] line in Christopher Nolan's
[36:33] Interstellar, love is the one variable
[36:36] that surpasses gravity, time, and
[36:38] dimension.
[36:40] Um Owen's not a fan of the organic
[36:43] webbing. And I think web shooters lead
[36:44] to interesting dilemmas like the one at
[36:46] the end of Far From Home. I think that
[36:49] we will still see those dilemmas in this
[36:51] movie. Um I think the organic webbing is
[36:54] just an exploration of this movie. Uh
[36:57] but there's like a shot where Peter's
[36:58] like something happens here.
[37:03] Like I don't know if that's from the
[37:04] organic webbing. I think that's like a
[37:06] web cartridge exploding. We also know
[37:09] that Peter's gonna have gamma wedding
[37:10] webbing in this. So, I think that's
[37:12] going to be um an artificial thing that
[37:15] he you still see some of those
[37:17] complications with. Um I think Peter's
[37:19] still going to do a lot of tinkering.
[37:21] You know, I think that's a core part of
[37:23] this Peter that is still going to be
[37:24] part of the street level story they're
[37:26] telling. But I I get your concern.
[37:29] You think that looks like Greyhulk in
[37:31] the scene where he's fallen? Let me look
[37:33] at it again.
[37:35] I don't know. He looks pretty green to
[37:36] me in that.
[37:38] Yeah, that's about that's greener than
[37:40] even the other green shots of Green
[37:42] Hulk. Um, it I mean the effects of this
[37:46] look a little rotoscoped painted on.
[37:48] I'll say that. But who cares? It's more
[37:51] about the
[37:53] the context of whatever the hell is
[37:55] going on here that I find interesting.
[38:00] Big fan Eve. Thank you for your super
[38:02] chat. Uh, trailer makes Gene look a bit
[38:05] evil. Is that the case? If not, who's
[38:08] the main bad guy? Wink wink misto. Ah,
[38:10] don't think it's Meisto.
[38:13] But yeah, Jean does seem kind of mean
[38:15] the way she's like going after MJ
[38:17] specifically and taunting Peter about
[38:19] that. I don't know. I I do think that
[38:22] she's going to be somewhat villainous,
[38:23] but I do think there's going to be a
[38:24] greater villain in this.
[38:27] Uh, looks like Sadi Sink's character
[38:29] also gets larger before Hulga could be a
[38:30] different effect.
[38:31] >> He might.
[38:32] >> Are you talking about here when she
[38:34] >> But he might. But he might
[38:39] >> Oh, I hear what you're saying. No, I
[38:41] think that's just like the camera
[38:42] pushing in closer to her, but I think
[38:44] that's kind of like an intentive effect.
[38:45] Like we're seeing her kind of doing this
[38:47] to Bruce's body. What's interesting is
[38:49] Bruce is in a completely different
[38:50] location. Um, so I don't know if it's
[38:52] just trailer editing suggesting that
[38:54] she's doing this in this moment, but I I
[38:56] do think she is causing him uh to go
[38:59] through this.
[39:02] Another super chat here. Do you think
[39:03] Bruce Banner regains control of his Hulk
[39:05] form by the end of the movie or will the
[39:07] threat of Savage Hulk continue into his
[39:10] possible appearance in Doomsday and
[39:12] Secret Wars? We don't know if the Hulk
[39:14] is going to be in Doomsday. I assume
[39:16] he's going to be in Secret Wars. I hope
[39:18] that we get a Savage Hulk in Secret
[39:20] Wars. I I personally don't like the gray
[39:23] Hulk thing. I I want my Hulk to be
[39:25] green. Um so if we have a Grey Hulk, I
[39:28] hope it's like a temporary phase that
[39:30] he's in. I just we haven't gotten enough
[39:32] green Hulk in the MCU. So, if we get a
[39:34] Hulk in Secret Wars, I just want it to
[39:36] be a Savage Hulk. I there's so many fun
[39:38] playgrounds within Battle World that I
[39:40] just want to see Savage Hulk smash
[39:42] through. He's more fun as a character
[39:44] that way than someone who can complete
[39:46] full sentences. Um, so I I kind of don't
[39:50] want him to I want him to get back to
[39:52] classic Hulk. I don't want any wrist
[39:54] gamma suppressor device. I want Hulk I
[39:57] want Bruce Banner to have to walk this
[39:58] world and just have to maintain through
[40:01] steady breathing and um and temper
[40:04] control exercises
[40:06] uh his balance with this Hulk identity.
[40:10] Um thank you for your super chat. It
[40:12] would be a big missed opportunity not to
[40:14] feature Daredevil. Why do you think
[40:16] Spider-Man is in jail then? Yeah, I I
[40:18] think that's like a fair question to
[40:20] ask. Like he's breaking into some prison
[40:23] facility, some DODC vault. Yeah, this
[40:26] brick structure. That's definitely what
[40:27] we saw on uh
[40:29] >> on Roosevelt Island. Um
[40:33] yeah, I don't know why The Hand is all
[40:35] in this prison. I don't know why The
[40:36] Hand is back uh in general. Um but I do
[40:41] agree with you. I think this movie does
[40:43] need a Daredevil in it, even a Matt
[40:45] Murdoch in it. Um it's just Matt
[40:48] Murdoch, I think, is going to begin
[40:49] Daredevil Born Again season 3 in that
[40:51] jail. The photo that Mike Coulter shared
[40:54] was um like Luke Cage in the prison
[40:58] location with Charlie Cox wearing the
[41:00] the orange suit and then at the end of
[41:02] Daredevil Born Again season 2, we didn't
[41:04] see Luke Cage in that prison yet. So
[41:06] that was a shot from season 3 and then
[41:07] Matt's still in jail at the start of
[41:09] season 3. So that's why I just don't
[41:10] think we're going to see him getting
[41:11] broken out of a prison. Um I also think
[41:14] it's a different prison than whatever
[41:16] this is.
[41:18] Someone else asking, "It's pretty clear
[41:20] Electra is returning to Daryl Born again
[41:22] season 3. Do you think we get a smaller
[41:23] minor cameo from Electra in the hand?" I
[41:26] don't think they're going to use this
[41:27] movie to bring in Ellie Young as
[41:30] Electra. Um, but I do think you're
[41:32] right. I think she's going to be in
[41:33] Daredevil Born Again season 3.
[41:36] Um, another question about the symbiote.
[41:37] Do you think they're saving the symbiote
[41:39] from the movies postredit scene for the
[41:41] very very end to tie in with Secret
[41:42] Wars? Yeah, someone else asked this
[41:43] before. I think if we see the symbiote
[41:45] at all, it would tie in with like a
[41:46] postredit scene. Usually with these um
[41:49] Sony Marvel co-productions, we've seen
[41:52] two postredit scenes, one for Marvel,
[41:54] one for Sony. Um you know, Spider-Man No
[41:57] Way Home had a post-redit scene with Tom
[41:59] Hardy as Venom, something that kind of
[42:00] tied in with Venom: The Last Dance. Sort
[42:02] of, not really. And then the other
[42:04] postredit scene was just kind of a
[42:05] trailer for Multiverse of Madness. Uh
[42:08] that was one for Marvel. in Spider-Man
[42:10] Far From Home. Remember, we had one that
[42:12] was kind of setting up the scene that
[42:14] would lead off Spider-Man No Way Home
[42:16] where it was bring back Jay K. Simmons
[42:19] as Jonah Jameson and and having Team
[42:21] Mysterio with the posumous video
[42:23] revealing that Peter Parker's
[42:24] Spider-Man. That was like the Sony the
[42:26] Sony one. And then the Marvel one was
[42:28] revealing Nick Fury and Maria Hill as as
[42:30] scrolls. Something I don't know what
[42:32] that was going to set up. Secret
[42:33] Invasion, another uh Captain Marvel
[42:36] sequel or something like that. I I don't
[42:38] know exactly what that was going
[42:40] forward, but definitely a Marvel Studios
[42:42] one. Um, so with this one, we're gonna
[42:44] have one that sets up like
[42:47] something that Sony wants, which is like
[42:49] more Venom, more Spidey Venom
[42:51] connection. And I think we're going to
[42:53] have one that sets up like specifically
[42:55] Battle World or or or Gan Gray's future
[42:58] as uh as one of the X-Men um or
[43:02] something that Peter Parker might
[43:03] actually show up in Doomsday or or some
[43:05] kind of incursion in the sky. Uh, like
[43:07] the question is like is Marvel Studios
[43:10] going to be using this summer 2026 movie
[43:12] to set up Secret Wars at the very end of
[43:14] 2027 or are they going to use it to
[43:17] really set up the movie that they need
[43:18] to make a lot of money at the end of
[43:19] 2026. So just based on that, you know,
[43:23] financially motivated question, I I do
[43:26] think it's more likely that they set up
[43:28] Doomsday more than Secret Wars. So that
[43:30] would leave Sadi Sync out of it. And I
[43:32] think there's going to be an earlier
[43:33] scene in the movie that sets up the
[43:34] X-Men of it all that isn't necessarily
[43:37] the postredit scene.
[43:40] Another question here. Feel like the
[43:41] scene is going to be Peter asking,
[43:43] "What's your name in in her going Jean?"
[43:45] Jean Gray. A little 007 coded there. Um
[43:49] I think we'll learn her name earlier in
[43:51] the movie, just not in the postredit
[43:52] scene. Um look at the helicopter window.
[43:56] It has Riker's names on it. John Riker
[43:59] will be in the BTS. Oh. Oh, does it have
[44:01] recorders? I remember seeing John, the
[44:03] name John and Lucy, right?
[44:07] I know what you're talking about here.
[44:08] We're gonna go through it.
[44:10] >> I'm MJ.
[44:17] >> Where's that? I think it's earlier in
[44:19] the trailer. Sorry.
[44:26] Um,
[44:30] stand by. Here we go. I see John and
[44:34] Lucy uh, just married. I don't see Riker
[44:37] on it. I'm thinking this could be John
[44:39] Jameson, Jonah's son. You know,
[44:40] Spider-Man 2 had the whole thing of him
[44:42] paying for his son's wedding with MJ and
[44:44] then she ran out. Uh, it'd be really
[44:46] funny. I mean, JK Simmons still exists
[44:48] in this in this New York running the
[44:49] Daily Bugle. Maybe he used his uh
[44:52] company's helicopter to do this. But
[44:54] here, I want to see what you're talking
[44:55] about with Rikers.
[44:58] I'm not seeing Rikers uh with a Y or an
[45:02] I. Just seemed like a helicopter caution
[45:04] sign here. It's pretty dangerous to land
[45:06] helicopters on some of these landing
[45:07] pads when they're lower than the
[45:09] buildings around them. Uh also crazy to
[45:12] put a helicopter as like a sendoff
[45:14] goodbye when the when the cocktail hour
[45:16] or the wedding is so close. like all
[45:18] these people's hair is going to be
[45:20] destroyed.
[45:22] Uh yeah, this to me I'm like most
[45:24] excited to dig into for the Easter egg
[45:26] breakdown. Not seeing Riker. Uh but I do
[45:29] think uh those names like it's some kind
[45:31] of wedding that Peter is wrecking.
[45:35] Another question here. What do you think
[45:36] Peter did to trigger Savage Hulk in that
[45:39] room scene? Was it even Peter? Yeah, I
[45:41] think it was I think it was Gan Gray. I
[45:42] think it was Satie Sync who triggers him
[45:44] in that moment. But also either way, it
[45:46] looks like the device just gets damaged
[45:47] in some way. So, anything could have
[45:49] done that damage. Um, you know, it it
[45:52] doesn't even have to be Gan Gray getting
[45:54] to his head that caused that thing to
[45:55] get ruptured.
[45:58] Another silly question, but do you think
[45:59] Destin Daniel [ __ ] maybe may
[46:01] incorporate the 10 rings with the hand
[46:03] in some way? I think it might be a
[46:06] little oversted if you have ninjas from
[46:08] two different secret armies in this
[46:10] movie. I think you have the hand. I
[46:13] don't know if you also have like the 10
[46:14] rings um led by Xyling in this movie. I
[46:18] I I just think that might over
[46:20] complicate it, over stuff it. Uh I don't
[46:22] think it's a silly question though. When
[46:25] NJ asks Frank, "Are you just going to
[46:27] let him go alone?" That might be a
[46:28] reference to them getting Daredevil.
[46:32] Oh, we just going to let him go alone. I
[46:34] know what scene you're talking about. I
[46:35] think she's talking about Peter, though,
[46:37] right?
[46:37] >> Going to let him go.
[46:40] >> Going to let him go by himself.
[46:42] Look at these photos. Do we think those
[46:45] are
[46:47] Frank's family?
[46:50] Looking at the original Statue of
[46:52] Liberty before the redesign.
[46:55] Uh, some family photos here.
[47:00] Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if
[47:02] that's specifically a smoking gun for
[47:05] Daredevil.
[47:06] Look, it sounds like a lot. You guys
[47:08] really need Daredevil to be in this
[47:09] movie. I'm with you. I'm with you. I
[47:11] just don't think that particular moment
[47:13] is uh is definitely a daredevil thing.
[47:16] But I, you know, anytime we see Frank
[47:17] thinking about cooperation in general, I
[47:19] do think he's thinking about Matt. I
[47:21] think that's on his mind at least. I
[47:23] think he's also equally thinking about
[47:24] Karen.
[47:27] Um, do you think Ned might think Flash's
[47:30] book Flashoint has clues? Oh, yeah. I
[47:32] remember Eugene wrote Flashoint, but I
[47:35] think whatever clues are in there would
[47:37] have been warped by the spell. So, any
[47:39] kind of reference to Peter Parker or
[47:41] whatever. But I think you're right. I
[47:43] think all the research Ned is doing,
[47:44] he's probably looked at, um, looked at
[47:47] anything he can get his hands on. I
[47:49] mean, the whole publishing of the book
[47:51] might have been erased from memory by
[47:52] the spell.
[47:54] Someone asking, uh, villain Jean is off
[47:56] for her. Uh, it's her pure heart and
[47:59] sense of morality and sacrifice that
[48:00] attract the Phoenix force to her. Maline
[48:02] Prior could make more sense. Maybe
[48:03] Nathaniel Essex is at Empire State
[48:05] University with with Banner. Oh, so you
[48:09] have a Mr. Sinister at Empire State
[48:10] University. Really fun. I mean, if if
[48:13] we're going to establish that there's a
[48:14] full X-Men canonical history that's just
[48:16] been erased from memory from the MCU,
[48:18] now we're really cooking. There could be
[48:19] all kinds of fun stuff and and people
[48:21] who have intertwined with our history
[48:23] that way. I I I
[48:25] I hear what you're saying. I I do think
[48:27] that like the Phoenix Force attached to
[48:30] Gene for a lot of reasons. Uh
[48:31] originally, I mean, there's been
[48:33] different stories of Gan Gay's powers
[48:34] that they came from the Phoenix Force
[48:36] attaching to her as a young kid due to
[48:37] some traumatic event. Uh there's also
[48:40] stories where it's like Gan Gray needed
[48:42] to be an omega level mutant that she was
[48:44] born as and have this potential that the
[48:46] Phoenix Force is like that one. Um or it
[48:49] could be what you said. It's like her
[48:51] good nature that the Phoenix Force was
[48:53] like, "Ooh, that one I going to corrupt
[48:55] that one." But I don't know if like that
[48:58] means that she can't be Gan Gray. And I
[49:00] think saying that she's Meline Prior, I
[49:03] think might be a step too far for her. I
[49:06] really do like the idea of like
[49:07] exploring the whole idea of Meline Prior
[49:09] in the MCU. I just think like right now
[49:11] Marvel Studios is getting back to just
[49:14] playing the hits, keeping things fairly
[49:16] simple. And I think making her Meline
[49:19] Prior is just kind of a step too far for
[49:21] a lot of the uh the fans who are not as
[49:24] plugged into things. Like it's already
[49:25] going to be a lot for a lot of people to
[49:27] accept that she's one of the X-Men, but
[49:30] I think Marvel can it feels confident
[49:32] that they can make that make sense. I
[49:34] don't know if they have the same
[49:35] confidence that they can make Meline
[49:36] Prior make sense because it's kind of
[49:38] like going it's like going from A to D
[49:40] as opposed to A to B.
[49:43] But I mean I I for those of you who are
[49:45] like it doesn't make sense for it to be
[49:47] Gan Gray, I I get what you're saying. I
[49:49] think it's a tall order to see how that
[49:52] makes sense in a Spider-Man movie and in
[49:53] your head an MCU Spider-Man movie is not
[49:55] an X-Men story and you don't want to
[49:58] complicate. You don't want to spoil the
[50:00] broth. I I get that. But I think there
[50:02] is a simple story that they're secretly
[50:05] telling in this movie of like gamma
[50:07] radiation and how it mutates different
[50:10] people in this universe and how it more
[50:14] um it kind of biologically adapts them
[50:17] for being entangled with other
[50:19] universes. What I just said may be
[50:22] overly complicated. Uh but I do think
[50:24] it's like the story they're telling and
[50:26] I think it'll make sense when we see it.
[50:30] Oh, thank you. you indie comics big and
[50:32] our fan since 2015. Hesitant on Gene
[50:33] Gray being in the film. Mostly not a fan
[50:35] of Russian and burning through the
[50:36] Phoenix story line. Russian Phoenix and
[50:38] Dark Phoenix is what Fox did. I guess
[50:41] what I'm saying is um I you're right.
[50:44] You're right. They tried to do that in
[50:45] one movie and they tried to do that
[50:47] twice both in uh The Last Stand and in
[50:49] Dark Phoenix. Um what I'm saying is
[50:53] uh they they did rush it in that it
[50:57] should be a Dark Phoenix saga. It should
[50:59] be told over like several years of this
[51:01] character's life. But the problem is is
[51:03] that storyline is really hard to make a
[51:07] good movie in the modern era. It was
[51:09] hard in 2006. It was hard in 2019. It's
[51:12] going to be even harder in 2026. I don't
[51:14] know if that's a story Gen Z and Gen
[51:17] Alpha audiences want to be living with
[51:19] for several years of the Mutant Saga
[51:21] because like when Chris Claremont told
[51:22] it in the early 80s and when it was
[51:24] explored on X-Men in the9s run in the
[51:27] animation it I don't want to call it
[51:31] problematic because it's not on me to
[51:32] say it's problematic but it's just hard
[51:34] to make a captivating story when it's
[51:36] basically a story of a hysterical woman
[51:38] who doesn't have control over her own
[51:40] body and like a bunch of a bunch of
[51:42] other heroes just trying to like hold
[51:44] her down and call her crazy the whole
[51:47] time. That's why I think it's hard for
[51:48] screenwriters now to tell that story in
[51:50] a way that works. So, what I mean is by
[51:52] burning through the Phoenix Saga story,
[51:54] I mean just burning through, literally
[51:56] burning through what the Phoenix's power
[51:59] set is in Battle World. I'm not talking
[52:01] about this slow kind of transformation,
[52:04] this kind of mental anguish that she's
[52:06] going through because I think Gan Gray,
[52:08] Marvel girl Gan Gray is an interesting
[52:10] character on her own as part of the
[52:12] X-Men. And and the problem is a lot of
[52:15] people just based off those movies in
[52:17] the '90s run only associate Gan Gray
[52:19] with Phoenix and this cosmic force that
[52:21] attaches to her. But I think she is an
[52:23] interesting character in a lot of other
[52:26] storylines that have nothing to do with
[52:27] the Phoenix. And I think that's what,
[52:29] you know, I think that's what uh um the
[52:32] X mo the X-Men movie in 2028 and the
[52:35] Mutant Saga has a potential power to
[52:38] explore. So maybe that's why they're
[52:40] introducing her here. I don't they're
[52:42] going to show the other powers that Gan
[52:43] Gray has that have nothing to do with
[52:45] the Phoenix Force. And I think we could
[52:47] see the Phoenix Force bond to her in
[52:48] Secret Wars. I think we could see her
[52:50] blaze up and kind of replace what Johnny
[52:53] Storm is since he's going to be the son,
[52:55] literal son of Battle World if they're
[52:58] doing it right. Um, and that's why I
[53:01] think I just don't want to see that
[53:02] again. And I don't want to see a much
[53:03] longer version of it again is what I'm
[53:05] saying. I I don't want to spend several
[53:07] years of the Dark Phoenix saga just
[53:09] because like I think slowing it down
[53:14] could make it even more drawn out and
[53:15] and worse. And I think Satie Sync can do
[53:17] so much more than that.
[53:21] Uh, thank you for your super chat. Yo,
[53:23] what do we think about Ned as hobgoblin
[53:25] and Tom's Peter immunity to Jean's
[53:27] powers that we've seen his unique
[53:29] control of his spirit and astral body?
[53:32] Yeah. Um, over under 20, do Ned's wizard
[53:37] abilities get referenced at all in this
[53:39] movie? I'm going to say no. I don't
[53:42] think we see wizard Ned in this movie.
[53:44] That's just me. I'll be shocked if we
[53:46] do. Um, and I don't think they cast
[53:50] Jacob Battalon to go in that arc of the
[53:52] hobgoblin
[53:53] character. I I think we gota have like a
[53:56] Green Goblin in this spider universe
[53:58] first from the 616 universe. And I think
[54:01] again ne I think Jacob Balon's skill set
[54:04] is just not in the direction of
[54:06] hobgoblin personally. Um,
[54:10] yeah. Another theory here, Peter's
[54:12] darkness comes from the symbiote left
[54:15] behind. Um, I I just don't think uh
[54:18] we're going to see that throughout this
[54:19] movie. I don't think it's going to be a
[54:21] symbiote story. I think when they're
[54:23] talking about street level, I don't
[54:25] think they're talking about an alien
[54:26] goo. That's just my read of it, but I'm
[54:29] not saying that they're never going to
[54:30] address it again.
[54:32] Uh, we're going to get a flashback of
[54:33] May giving a speech from the trailer to
[54:35] Peter Wright when she discovered he's
[54:36] Spider-Man. Oo, I love that theory. Uh,
[54:38] that's really cool that like in the
[54:40] scene from Spider-Man Homecoming, right,
[54:42] when she yelled, [ __ ] uh and it cut off.
[54:45] Like maybe we have a scene there where
[54:47] like she took him out for more LAR at
[54:49] that restaurant and uh they had this
[54:51] wonderful scene. But I do think based
[54:54] off what she says, the people who love
[54:55] you love you because you're you. I think
[54:57] that would have to be a little bit later
[54:59] in Peter's life. But remember, he did
[55:01] blip. So I don't know how many times in
[55:03] their history they could have had a
[55:04] conversation like that.
[55:07] Um, another question. When we eventually
[55:09] get X-Men, do you think Mr. Sinister
[55:11] will be working with the uh Department
[55:13] of Defense to capture mutants or do you
[55:15] mean DODC? Fingers crossed for Tom Ellis
[55:18] as Sinister. Yeah, we've seen some uh
[55:21] theories that um Vagner Mora is being um
[55:24] considered for Sebastian Shaw, meaning
[55:27] that we could see a Hellfire Club as
[55:29] like a first wave of villains in the
[55:30] mutant saga. Mr. Sinister is obviously
[55:33] someone that like Fox Studios wanted to
[55:35] explore as the next big bad of the Fox
[55:39] X-Men that we saw teased at the end of
[55:41] X-Men Apocalypse. Um, there was going to
[55:44] be a Mr. Sinister storyline in New
[55:46] Mutants. Um, but yeah, again, we're kind
[55:51] of getting into like a a genetic
[55:54] subplot, and maybe that's what this
[55:55] movie is setting up with Gan Gray. I
[55:58] look I don't have a problem with it just
[55:59] being Sentinels and um and Bolivar Tras
[56:03] and Henry Peter Guyrick and and Striker
[56:06] like a Reverend Striker and whatever the
[56:08] US president is. That's my preference
[56:10] for what we see in the mutant saga is
[56:12] just like a US government and not having
[56:14] these big bads yet. Um I think there's
[56:17] nothing wrong with just going back and
[56:18] playing the hits of Magneto, you know,
[56:20] like again it's not about doing what's
[56:25] never been done before. I think Marvel
[56:27] Studios is under greater pressure to
[56:32] just make movies that work that people
[56:35] just want and not try to throw people
[56:38] curveballs as much anymore. So, I think
[56:40] we're accustomed to an MCU since 2008
[56:44] where they kept trying to zag where the
[56:45] common comics have zigged. Uh, but I
[56:48] think with something like Doomsday and
[56:49] just adapting Jonathan Hickman's 2015
[56:52] Time Runs Out and Secret Wars, I think
[56:54] they're just delivering the goods and
[56:56] then doing little things to surprise us.
[56:59] But I think a lot of these other like,
[57:00] well, we've never seen like other than
[57:02] Kevin Bacon, we've never seen a real
[57:03] Sebastian Shaw Hellfire Club. We've
[57:05] never seen uh a Mr. Sinister in live
[57:07] action. I I think hearing Jake Shrier
[57:11] talk about this, I think they're just
[57:13] getting back to playing the hits from
[57:14] the Claremont era. Um, you know, so I I
[57:20] think there what we all kind of know
[57:22] already about the X-Men is like the
[57:24] brand safe approach and they're going to
[57:26] find other ways to humanize it to young
[57:28] audiences of the next decade. Uh, but I
[57:31] don't think they're going to like pull
[57:33] out some obscure Proteius villain in the
[57:35] first X-Men villain. Not to say Proteius
[57:36] is obscure, but you know what I mean? To
[57:38] like most um Marvel movie goers, they're
[57:40] like, hm, who's Proteius? Like I don't
[57:42] think we're going to see Proteius as the
[57:43] first villain. Uh even though that uh if
[57:46] you're on like uh if you're on YouTube
[57:47] like I am, you're probably thinking
[57:49] like, "Okay, what's one they've never
[57:50] done before? What's the one I've always
[57:51] wanted to see?" Because I've already
[57:52] seen Ian Mckllen do Magneto. I think
[57:54] it's more likely that they just recast
[57:56] Magneto and do a Magneto story. And I
[57:58] know there's like the Magneto problem of
[58:00] he'd be too old if he's going to be a
[58:02] Holocaust survivor, but they're more
[58:03] likely to do something like that. Um
[58:07] Trevor Pace, thank you for your
[58:08] donation. Uh same for you, Bucks.
[58:10] Appreciate you guys. Uh, do you think
[58:13] Zach Cherry will make an appearance?
[58:15] Yeah, I mean Destin Daniel [ __ ] did
[58:17] get Zach Cherry in there on the bus as
[58:19] uh I like to think he's the same
[58:20] character as a do a flip guy. I think
[58:22] Zach Cher's price might be a little too
[58:24] high after Severance, but I would love
[58:26] to see him cameo.
[58:29] Will Hulk kill Spider-Man and then get
[58:30] Sio? No, Spider-Man don't think is going
[58:32] to get killed off in this movie. Um, do
[58:35] you think we'll see the line that Hulk
[58:36] says uh where he remembers Peter? Yeah.
[58:39] Um, I think it's again Hulk never really
[58:42] knew Peter um that specific way.
[58:48] Um, there's a lot of license plates and
[58:51] I've been looking at the license plates
[58:53] and I don't think they refer to specific
[58:55] comic issues, but you know, I'll keep
[58:56] looking. I think that was a John Watts
[58:58] thing, not a uh Destinary [ __ ] thing.
[59:03] YouTube caption saying Tilman is Mezer.
[59:05] I think that's Bill. I'll double look at
[59:06] the you I'll double check the YouTube
[59:08] captions, but yeah, in the first
[59:10] trailer, he was identified as Bill,
[59:12] which I think could be a William Mezer
[59:14] thing.
[59:16] Uh, another theory here. Thank you. Uh,
[59:19] saying Jean might call herself Meline
[59:21] while being evil. Oo, okay. I hear what
[59:24] you're saying that like she might go by
[59:26] the name Meline. Again, I just think the
[59:28] name Meline Prior
[59:31] makes it too much about the clone of Gan
[59:33] Gray by by Mr. sinister, who who Scott
[59:37] Summers was actually married to. It's
[59:39] just uh it's like an A to D jump when I
[59:42] think to introduce her character, we
[59:44] need to have an A to B jump. Um the
[59:46] theory I've always wanted to see is that
[59:48] the the Fky Jansen Gan Gray that Logan
[59:51] sees at the end of Days of Future Past
[59:52] could be a Meline Prior and maybe that
[59:55] was a story line that they were
[59:56] considering developing that we were
[59:58] going to get to a a Goblin Queen story
[60:00] line there. Uh but I don't think we're
[60:02] going to already see it in this movie.
[60:06] Um, another theory, Peter, fight in the
[60:08] hand in a prison. Yeah. Yeah, we we
[60:11] talked about this earlier in the stream.
[60:13] I just think a Daredevil Born Again
[60:14] season 3 begins with Matt still in that
[60:17] prison. That's the only issue I have
[60:19] with this theory. Another question here
[60:21] about that. Maybe they break out Matt
[60:23] for help and then he goes back to finish
[60:25] his sentence.
[60:27] That is something Matt would do. He'd be
[60:28] like, "You know what? I was convicted.
[60:31] Um, I just let me back into the prison.
[60:34] I think that would be kind of lame of
[60:37] Matt to do. I mean, at that point, just
[60:39] stay a vigilante. Um, yeah, maybe maybe
[60:42] that's it. I just think like the
[60:44] storyline for Matt Murdoch is now being
[60:46] firmly controlled by Daario Scardani and
[60:49] the Daredevil Born Again team and I
[60:51] don't think Destin Daniel [ __ ] has
[60:52] that much control over the character.
[60:55] So, that'd be my only concern. And I
[60:57] think I think the way they got around it
[60:59] is by giving access to Frank Castle, the
[61:02] Punisher, for this story.
[61:06] In No Way Home, Peter finds out that
[61:07] Nick Fury wasn't really himself during
[61:08] Far From Home. Do you think they dive
[61:10] into scrolls in this movie? Does Peter
[61:12] find that out?
[61:14] I'm trying to remember if Peter if he
[61:17] talks about Nick Fury being a scroll. I
[61:20] don't think Peter ever learned that in
[61:22] No Way or No Way Home, right? Peter
[61:25] doesn't know anything about scirrels. Um
[61:29] I I mean I could be wrong the way it
[61:32] ends. Um but no uh I don't think I don't
[61:36] think Marvel Studios is ever going to
[61:37] bring up scrolls ever again other than
[61:39] Easter eggs walking around in the
[61:40] background of Battle World or something
[61:41] like that or the TVA.
[61:44] Um, yeah, as I talked about earlier in
[61:45] the stream, I don't know how much of
[61:47] Manspider,
[61:48] uh, like I would say the first trailer
[61:50] had me more convinced of a symbiote and
[61:52] man spider than this trailer does.
[61:58] Um, another question since we saw
[61:59] Spider-Man is Marvel rivals ultimate.
[62:01] Um imagine
[62:03] Gan Gray Phoenix using hers. You are
[62:05] nothing, huh? And the comic features Mr.
[62:07] Negative. Do you think he's manipulating
[62:10] Gene? You know, I think Mr. Negative is
[62:11] like my first big what I got wrong of
[62:13] 2026. Like I was really thinking hard
[62:16] that Mr. Negative was going to be like
[62:17] the big bad of this movie. And like the
[62:19] more that's coming out for this movie,
[62:21] the more certain it looks like he's not
[62:23] at all going to be in this movie. So I
[62:25] don't think Mr. Negative is going to be
[62:27] part of Spider-Man Brand New Day. Even
[62:29] though it is a Brand New Day story and
[62:30] he is a Brand New Day Comics villain, I
[62:33] just don't think we're going to see him
[62:34] in this.
[62:36] Uh do you think Daredevil will fight the
[62:37] hand with Peter in this movie? Yeah, a
[62:39] question that I've addressed with a
[62:40] bunch of other questions here. I don't
[62:42] think um I I mean I get why we think
[62:46] that he was scrubbed out of that shot. I
[62:49] just think he is going to start
[62:50] Daredevil Born Again season 3 in prison
[62:52] still.
[62:55] Um I believe Pety is uh already wearing
[62:57] the symbiote suit in some of these
[62:59] scenes. Oh, okay. Let's see what you're
[63:02] talking about. Oh, you think it was like
[63:03] scrubbed out or something like that?
[63:06] Like in shots like this, it's actually
[63:09] uh him in the black suit.
[63:12] I mean, here's the deal. I think when
[63:15] people want a symbiote, really what they
[63:18] want is Peter in a black suit.
[63:21] And so, I get wanting that, but I think
[63:24] we have to get to to Battle World first
[63:27] is the only thing. Um, but who knows?
[63:31] You know, we've seen plenty of examples
[63:32] of Marvel trailers where the suit
[63:34] characters are wearing is is actually a
[63:36] placeholder design. Um,
[63:41] I just think it's like they're really
[63:43] trying to make it an internal um
[63:46] mutating gene uh thing rather than an
[63:49] alien infection.
[63:51] So, that's why I think uh that's why I
[63:55] think it's not going to be a symbiote
[63:57] plot.
[63:58] Uh, why did Marvel Studios not post the
[64:00] Spider-Man trailer? Are you talking
[64:02] about their YouTube channel? I don't
[64:04] know. Sometimes they don't always have
[64:06] the the Disney owned YouTube channel
[64:08] post things. Or maybe they'll post it
[64:09] later. I don't know. I haven't seen
[64:11] that. Okay. Another question about this
[64:13] Ultimate X-Men where Gene Gray changes
[64:14] her name to Karen Grant and her uh Hulk
[64:17] on a team and she mind controls Hulk
[64:18] willingly to help her do things and he
[64:20] does it willingly. To be honest, I have
[64:21] not read this exact storyline so I'll
[64:23] have to check it out. But everyone
[64:24] should go read this.
[64:27] Uh, if you had to choose one X-Men story
[64:29] line for the MCU to adapt, what would it
[64:31] be?
[64:33] I mean, what's really great about the
[64:35] Claremont era is it's not really known
[64:37] for a specific
[64:39] specific story lines. It's just one kind
[64:41] of evolving soap opera-esque story that
[64:45] goes in and out of different characters.
[64:47] So, I just want the Claremont era, you
[64:50] know, that's uh because that encompasses
[64:52] everything else. So, I don't need to get
[64:55] to the like the CCOa arc of the recent
[64:59] times. I don't need the Grant Morrison
[65:01] um Janosha massacre arc with Cassandra
[65:04] Nova and all that. I kind of just want
[65:06] to get to the heyday of like the late
[65:08] '7s through the early 90s going from
[65:10] Claremont to John Burn. Um I think
[65:13] there's so many I mean there's like 15
[65:16] years of great X-Men movies and TV shows
[65:18] just from that era. um that don't have
[65:21] to be like a specific story line that
[65:23] begins and ends.
[65:26] Uh ooh we should get Landra and McCron
[65:29] Crystal before we get Phoenix. The
[65:31] Phoenix could be the background for
[65:32] years building to Gene controlling the
[65:33] Phoenix as part of a larger galactic
[65:35] story. You know, I I'm really excited to
[65:37] see how Marvel unfolds like the cosmic
[65:41] settings of the mutant saga cuz yeah,
[65:43] you do have the Shar Empire. You do have
[65:45] Landra. Uh you have a lot of cool
[65:47] Corsair stuff, too. But I do think
[65:50] that's kind of like phase three of the
[65:52] mutant saga as opposed to phase one. We
[65:54] need to tell these ground level stories
[65:55] of how Sentinels are hunting these kids
[65:59] down before we get to like Landra.
[66:02] Uh, do we get a Scott Summers hint if
[66:05] Satie is Jean?
[66:09] I don't I don't know if if like this
[66:11] this Gan Gray has met a Scott Summers
[66:13] yet. I think this is a a Gan Gray who
[66:16] has not at all been uh recruited to join
[66:19] the X-Men yet, you know? So, I don't
[66:22] think she's met a Charles Xavier yet if
[66:24] she's doing this stuff. She's been kind
[66:25] of in isolation. And in the prison cell
[66:27] that we saw her in in the first trailer,
[66:31] she had like roller skates in there. So
[66:33] like uh I think she might have been in
[66:36] captivity for several years. I don't
[66:38] know if uh if we see a Scott yet.
[66:43] Uh what do you think of Peter's reaction
[66:44] to Matt revealing himself as Daredevil?
[66:46] Yeah, I think that's really funny that
[66:47] when Matt was in the courtroom in the
[66:48] Daredevil Born Again season 2 finale and
[66:50] reveals himself as Daredevil. Yeah,
[66:52] Peter totally must have like heard about
[66:54] that and been like, "Yeah, my lawyer did
[66:55] catch a brick. That was crazy." Um,
[66:58] yeah, I think that's that. I hope that
[67:01] like we actually get to see that
[67:03] reference at some point.
[67:06] Uh, another question. If Sink isn't a
[67:08] big player like Gene, then I'm confused
[67:09] with the secrecy and not showing her in
[67:11] either trailer, especially if she's also
[67:13] in Secret Wars. Well, I h
[67:17] I think they do want that to be a
[67:19] surprise in the movie. I don't think
[67:21] they want to have like despite
[67:24] everything we're doing in our YouTube
[67:26] coverage, they really don't want the
[67:28] whole X-Men angle to overwhelm their
[67:30] marketing. And if they announce that she
[67:33] is Gan Gray, then I think every question
[67:37] all these actors are going to be getting
[67:38] is specifically about the future of the
[67:40] X-Men. So, by not announcing it,
[67:42] whenever they go into these junkets like
[67:44] they do with Fandango, hopefully new
[67:45] Rockstars, um those interviewers are
[67:48] going to have to ask several other
[67:49] questions before they throw in a
[67:51] curveball about the X-Men. But who
[67:53] knows? I think at Comic- Con it was
[67:54] announced that Spider-Man brand new day
[67:56] is going to have a panel at Hall H just
[67:57] a week before the movie comes out. Maybe
[68:00] they do announce it there's Gan Gray in
[68:02] the final week and this would be after
[68:04] all the junkets happened. And I think
[68:06] they're they might do that because
[68:07] presumably before Comic- Con is when
[68:09] like the press screenings are going to
[68:10] happen and it might start to leak. Um,
[68:12] and they might just like take control of
[68:14] that narrative in the, you know, 6 days
[68:16] before the movie comes out. Um, but I
[68:19] think that's why they're keeping it a
[68:20] secret.
[68:22] Another question here from Green Worer.
[68:25] Slightly off topic, but anchor beings
[68:27] made no sense. How can a universe exist
[68:29] for billions of years if a person with
[68:30] an average of 75 year lifespan could die
[68:33] at any moment?
[68:36] Let me think about that for a second.
[68:38] Um,
[68:40] well, I think they're saying that
[68:43] an anchor being
[68:46] could exist at any point in the history
[68:49] of that universe. Also, uh, how can a
[68:53] universe exist for billions of years if
[68:54] a person with an average of 75 lifespan
[68:56] could die at any moment?
[69:00] I think I think it's just hard to
[69:01] imagine that there are infinite number
[69:02] of universes. And uh, and and I think
[69:06] they also say that like when an anchor
[69:08] being dies, it signals the beginning of
[69:11] the end of that universe. It's not like
[69:13] as soon as that person breathes their
[69:14] last breath, the universe goes poof. It
[69:17] means that like
[69:19] as soon as an anchor being is identified
[69:21] by the TVA, even if it's in the future
[69:24] from the present moment, it means that
[69:26] this future is going to die. Um, but I
[69:30] think what you're saying is like, oh, an
[69:31] anchor being if they're born in the year
[69:33] 1940ome,
[69:36] um, like how does it like why does it
[69:39] affect the people of the ancient times?
[69:43] I don't know. I I didn't really have
[69:44] this question or this confusion to be
[69:46] honest with you. So, I'm having trouble
[69:47] empathizing with your confusion. Um, but
[69:51] I don't think it made no sense, but I do
[69:54] think it's possible that the Russo
[69:55] brothers were also confused the way you
[69:57] were and are just like, "We're not going
[69:58] to address the idea of anchor beans and
[70:00] doomsday." Uh, but I think just the idea
[70:02] is that there is one lynchpin person who
[70:06] if they uh whenever they come up in
[70:09] history and whenever they die, that
[70:10] universe is going to collapse in an
[70:12] incursion. And so like this there could
[70:15] be plenty of other universes who don't
[70:16] have their anchor being born until the
[70:18] year 4000 and something you know u but
[70:21] every universe has one. Uh some
[70:23] universes had them in the year you know
[70:27] 1092
[70:28] and that person died from a plague and
[70:30] then that universe just died and expired
[70:33] a few years later. You know I think it's
[70:35] just kind of hard to imagine it but I
[70:37] think that's what Deadpool and Wolverine
[70:38] was saying.
[70:41] Uh, this question asking about the
[70:43] Fendango interview. What do you think
[70:44] Tom's biggest contribution to the script
[70:46] was that he was referring to? Uh, yeah.
[70:48] So, Tom Holland indicated that he
[70:50] scrubbed through a lot of social media
[70:52] after No Way Home came out just to see
[70:54] what people wanted and then he was kind
[70:56] of the voice of the fans in the writer
[70:58] room for this movie. I think what he's
[71:00] referring to um was like first off, you
[71:04] know, making it a street level story. Um
[71:06] making it something that was divorced
[71:07] from Stark Tech, less of an Avengers
[71:10] story. Um even though he's teaming up
[71:12] with the Hulk in this movie, something
[71:13] that's more about like Peter being
[71:15] Spider-Man, uh a friendly neighborhood
[71:18] Spider-Man who has a DIY suit that he
[71:19] has to build himself that kind of looks
[71:21] like Andrew Garfield's suit. Um, you
[71:24] know, the he it was I know it was Tom
[71:26] Holland's idea to do the spider puberty
[71:28] thing, but they don't call it that in
[71:30] the movie. But this whole idea of like
[71:32] something is happening to his body
[71:33] that's affecting him. I know that was
[71:35] Tom Holland's contribution. And then the
[71:37] thing that he said at the beginning of
[71:38] the interview is that he had to keep it
[71:39] a secret what the his favorite little
[71:41] nugget was. I think it's like X-Men. I
[71:44] think they wanted to see Peter Parker
[71:45] with X-Men. And and that's what he was
[71:47] referring to with that.
[71:51] Could X-Men 97 season 2 reveal anything
[71:53] for Brand New Day or Doomsday?
[71:56] Uh, I doubt it. I think X-Men 97 was
[71:58] developed by just like a different team
[72:00] of people who were not plugged into what
[72:02] the Russo brothers were doing for
[72:04] Doomsday. Uh, or even Brand New Day.
[72:09] Um, just because there's a big division
[72:10] between animation and live action and
[72:12] each live action production like isn't
[72:15] always going to have the same kind of
[72:16] overlap. Um, in this interrogation
[72:19] scene, Peter says Fury could back up a
[72:21] story uh in the DOJ. Oh, that's what
[72:24] you're saying. Fury has been off planet.
[72:26] It's small, but Peter has had time. But
[72:29] I don't know if that I know I know what
[72:31] scene you're talking about. Um, but that
[72:34] doesn't mean that Peter knows that Fury
[72:37] was a scroll. It's just that Fury has
[72:38] been off-world. Uh, in in uh the
[72:41] Marvels, Fury was on a space station and
[72:44] was not a scroll in that. I just think
[72:47] uh Nick Fury is often dealing with other
[72:50] alien races and means he's off world,
[72:52] but I don't think that Peter knew that
[72:54] he was a scirrel per se. So to answer
[72:56] your question, I don't think it means
[72:57] that like scrolls are going to get
[72:58] addressed in this movie. I mean, Nick
[73:00] Fury at that point was just kind of
[73:01] viewed as like a man in the shadows. You
[73:03] never really know where he is.
[73:06] Night King controlling Jean. Are you
[73:08] talking about the thing? Yeah. Thanks
[73:10] for your donation.
[73:14] Um, thank you for your super chat.
[73:16] Number one human villain you'd want and
[73:18] number one mutant villain, non-magneto
[73:20] you want for the mutant saga. Number one
[73:22] human villain that I would want is
[73:26] a good question.
[73:28] Um, I think a reverend striker. I want
[73:32] to see like a Billy Graham style
[73:35] reverend striker in the MCU. And number
[73:38] one, mutant villain, non-magneto.
[73:45] Um,
[73:47] does danger count? Like I I am really
[73:50] excited to see danger in X-Men 97 season
[73:52] 2. Kind of the robotic embodiment of the
[73:54] danger room. I guess it's more of a
[73:55] technological villain than a mutant
[73:57] villain. Uh,
[74:02] Proteius. I really do like Proteius, but
[74:04] again, I don't want to get there right
[74:06] away.
[74:07] Uh, I guess if we if you're forcing me
[74:09] to pick I don't need to see Apocalypse
[74:11] right now, especially since we're going
[74:12] to see him in X-Men 97 season 2. I guess
[74:15] maybe a Mr. Sinister. I just think Mr.
[74:17] Sinister is kind of a joke. And I I I
[74:19] just don't know if like the the first
[74:22] wave of of these X-Men stories need to
[74:24] deal with Mr. Sinister in that way. But
[74:27] maybe in phase two.
[74:30] Another question. Gene is mutating also
[74:32] doesn't have control.
[74:35] I don't know what you're asking, but
[74:37] yeah, maybe she doesn't have control
[74:39] over her powers exactly, and that's why
[74:41] she's being kind of chaotic.
[74:43] With Tom's Peter going through this
[74:45] mutation, I think it would be fun to
[74:46] find out the same thing is happening to
[74:48] Andrew's Peter, maybe in Secret Wars.
[74:52] Oh, u I don't know if I need all Peter
[74:54] Parkers to have the same organic webbing
[74:56] process.
[74:57] Um,
[75:00] but
[75:02] yeah, uh, I do want to see Andrew
[75:04] Garfield's Peter Parker return in Secret
[75:06] Wars. Um, I I want to see this, um, the
[75:12] this trio reunited.
[75:14] I guess the question I have for all of
[75:16] you, um, if Peter's getting organic
[75:19] webbing in this movie, are we saying
[75:20] that this is going to be, um, something
[75:22] that he has from now on?
[75:25] uh that this is just like a permanent
[75:27] adaptation his Peter is going to have.
[75:29] If so, I think after this movie, I'm
[75:31] really going to be ready for this Peter
[75:33] to just kind of pass the baton off to
[75:36] Miles and Gwyn. Um I don't have a
[75:40] problem with organic webbing. I just
[75:41] felt that was so specific for the Sam
[75:43] Ramy, Tobey Magcguire era that I don't
[75:47] want this to be a permanent thing that
[75:49] Peter has. I like seeing the tinkering
[75:52] web shooter thing. And while I think
[75:54] this movie can maintain that balance,
[75:55] it's going to be hard to maintain that
[75:56] balance for like a fifth movie if he
[75:58] still has it at the end of this movie.
[76:00] So yeah, maybe it does go to like a
[76:02] symbiote affected Peter in Secret Wars.
[76:04] They tell that story in Secret Wars and
[76:06] then after that his body just gets
[76:08] restored in a specific way to make him
[76:11] like a good mentor figure to Miles and
[76:13] Gwyn.
[76:15] Another observation, seeing Spider-Man
[76:17] saving MJ and not Ned could trigger
[76:19] something evil in Ned. Oh, you're trying
[76:21] to make Ned hobgoblin? I don't think so.
[76:23] I don't think it's going to happen in
[76:24] this movie. I don't think Ned will be
[76:26] that resentful. Hey, just want to say I
[76:28] love your work. Thank you. I'm about to
[76:30] be a father August 1st. Congratulations.
[76:33] Any tips you could give me? And also
[76:35] excited for Spider-Man. It's going to be
[76:38] a lot of work. It's going to be
[76:40] challenging, but it's going to be the
[76:41] most rewarding thing that ever happens
[76:42] to you. Um, I can't imagine not being a
[76:47] dad. It's It's just so great. It's it's
[76:49] like honestly getting married and then
[76:52] having a kid. Uh it's it's impossible to
[76:57] overrate those things. Uh it it's what I
[77:00] was always always destined to be. Um and
[77:03] but you got to be ready. You're um
[77:05] you're going to be shocked how much your
[77:06] body chemistry changes by sleep
[77:08] deprivation in that first month. Just
[77:10] brace yourself for it. Um get as much
[77:12] sleep as you can. Now, I know that's a
[77:14] cliche thing. Also know that you're not
[77:16] in this alone and you don't need to have
[77:18] all the that's the advice I give you.
[77:19] You don't need to know everything right
[77:21] now. You don't need to know everything
[77:23] in the first month, the first 3 months,
[77:24] the first 6 months. You will learn as
[77:26] you go. So, you're going to be shocked
[77:28] at like how many things that you're
[77:30] like, "Oh, I didn't know that I had to
[77:32] know this." You're going to feel
[77:33] imposter syndrome that you didn't do the
[77:35] homework. But don't worry, every parent
[77:37] feels that way. You're going to have
[77:38] your pediatrician tell you things like,
[77:40] "You know, you can do this, right?" And
[77:41] you're going to be like, "I'm such a
[77:42] dummy." Um, but you have to forgive
[77:45] yourself. You have to forgive your
[77:46] partner and uh and you'll figure it out
[77:50] as you go. You are kind of building the
[77:52] train while it has left the station. And
[77:55] that's kind of the delight and challenge
[77:57] of parenting. But like it's impossible
[77:59] to tell a parent everything they need to
[78:01] know in that final couple months before
[78:03] the baby comes or even in the first
[78:05] month. Um, but that's what every parent
[78:08] goes through.
[78:10] But congratulations.
[78:12] Was Florence Pew rumored to be in the
[78:13] movie? She was. I think that rumor was
[78:15] false. Do you think Spidey will off the
[78:17] Scorpion or not? I don't think
[78:18] Spider-Man's going to kill Matt Gargan
[78:20] in this movie. I don't think he's gonna
[78:21] kill anyone in this movie. Uh, Army N K9
[78:25] MP. Thanks for the donation.
[78:28] Another question here. Street level
[78:29] since No Way Home. The monster Sadie
[78:31] Sades character is referring to could be
[78:33] Peter's unwell mental health with being
[78:35] isolated alone. She does help him by
[78:37] making him reach out to his past and
[78:39] others. Yeah, I think that's I think
[78:41] you're right. I think that's the monster
[78:43] that's being referred to in this trailer
[78:45] is like this new form that he's taking
[78:48] and how it's uh born out of his
[78:51] isolation and his emotional separation
[78:53] from his friends. Um yeah, I think he
[78:57] worries it's a monster. I don't think
[78:59] it's literally like a symbiote monster
[79:01] or a man spider monster. Uh they're
[79:04] saying they're show Oh, this person's
[79:05] saying it's showing a lot in this
[79:06] trailer. Last one for me. I've been
[79:07] burned before. Look at you. Good Morning
[79:09] America for Spider-Man 2 Toby full major
[79:11] scene shown. I don't remember that. I I
[79:13] mean I wasn't watching GMA in 2004. Um
[79:17] but I I still have a lot of questions
[79:19] from this trailer. I mean there's a lot
[79:21] of context that I'm still missing. Um
[79:25] we need a montage at the beginning of
[79:26] Doomsday showing Doom versus Thanos and
[79:28] then Doom wiping out the Council of
[79:30] Kangs. Oh, I do think we're going to see
[79:32] Doom kill Thanos in Doomsday. I don't
[79:34] think we're going to see the Council of
[79:36] Kangs killed. You'll have to go to some
[79:37] AI videos to see that. Um, but I agree.
[79:42] I think we needed a montage or some kind
[79:43] of reference to everything bad Doom has
[79:45] done.
[79:48] Oo, I want to see Olivia Cook play Moira
[79:49] in all of her lives to introduce the
[79:52] X-Men. Do you mean Moira McTagert? I
[79:54] guess I think Olivia Cook would be a
[79:55] really good Moira in the mutant saga.
[79:58] She's so good in House of the Dragon.
[80:01] Uh, it's Manpider. They need to save
[80:03] symbiote so Peter can stand up against
[80:04] the other heroes without stark tech on
[80:06] battle world. Wouldn't stress mutation
[80:08] if it was suit giving him more strength.
[80:10] Yeah, I don't know if it's man spider or
[80:13] the symbiote. I I think it's going to be
[80:15] something unique to this movie.
[80:18] Do you think Agent Clearary will be in
[80:19] the film since the DODDC is? Um it's
[80:23] possible. I just think that Tal Tilman's
[80:25] kind of representing the DODC in this
[80:27] movie.
[80:29] Uh, Sentry beats Thor in Doomsday return
[80:32] as Rune King.
[80:34] Um, O. Yeah, I have a lot of questions
[80:37] about how Sentry is going to be used by
[80:39] Dr. Doom in Doomsday.
[80:42] Um, yeah, I guess I could see that.
[80:44] Brixie and Minifigs behind Oh, like
[80:46] they're the they're the big bad behind
[80:48] this movie.
[80:50] Ah, god. Check out all those videos.
[80:52] That has been a fascinating drama to to
[80:56] deep dive into.
[80:59] Thank you as will uh for your uh name.
[81:02] The names on the helicopter are John
[81:04] Riker and his wife Hulk villain from the
[81:05] comics. I just didn't see Riker. Uh I'll
[81:08] look at it again, dude. I I just don't
[81:10] think I saw Riker. I think that's your
[81:12] theory. Um I did see Rker, though,
[81:16] right? I'll look at it again. I don't
[81:18] know. Um any thoughts on Bruce sounding
[81:21] a little sinister when he says, "You're
[81:23] not one of my students, so are you?" Oh,
[81:25] I think it's kind of a cutesy thing. I
[81:27] don't think it was sinister
[81:29] uh or evil or anything. Oops.
[81:34] I think it's kind of a knowing glance. I
[81:36] wouldn't call that evil.
[81:39] Um direct eye contact can feel evil
[81:42] though sometimes. All of this marketing
[81:44] about his body mutating and people still
[81:46] think it's a symbiote. The suit wouldn't
[81:47] give him organic webbing. Yeah, agreed.
[81:50] Agreed. I think it's there's some other
[81:52] process.
[81:53] Voice before Hulk at the end sounds
[81:55] altered.
[82:01] Um, I'll check it out later.
[82:04] >> I miss you, mate.
[82:06] >> I mean, in trailer editing, often often
[82:08] they kind of the the audio will sounds
[82:11] just a little weird.
[82:13] I apologize if I'm taking your words out
[82:14] of context, but are you saying you don't
[82:16] want another trilogy with Tom? No, I'm
[82:18] I'm completely fine with another Tom
[82:19] Holland, Peter Parker trilogy, like um
[82:22] Brand New Day, something else in a sixth
[82:24] movie. totally fine with that. But I do
[82:26] think in the next movie we need to team
[82:28] him up with a Miles and Gwen or
[82:30] something like that. What I what I don't
[82:32] want is like another trilogy where he
[82:34] has a organic webbing in all three of
[82:36] them. I think that'd just be a little
[82:38] weird. I I I don't know. Maybe they have
[82:40] some other bigger story that they're
[82:41] telling. Um or if they are going to have
[82:44] his organic webbing, you have to have
[82:45] like another Peter who has web shooters
[82:48] in some way.
[82:51] Um,
[82:53] will we get Doom taking out Thanos just
[82:54] to be established? Yeah, I do think
[82:56] we'll see something like that. Yeah, in
[82:58] all the Russo brothers marketing,
[82:59] they're like, he's even more powerful
[83:00] than Thanos. Yeah. So, I I think that's
[83:03] going to be part of it. Um,
[83:06] we want to see Mad Evolved Peter running
[83:09] for Shocker.
[83:11] Okay. Are we going to bring back Shocker
[83:12] in this movie? I think we already have a
[83:14] lot of villains, but if you're going to
[83:15] say in the next movie or the movie after
[83:17] that, um, do we think Hulk will join him
[83:22] or separate off like in Age of Ultron?
[83:25] Um, I do think we're going to see like
[83:26] Peter Parker and Hulk kind of team up in
[83:28] this movie. I think we're not even
[83:30] seeing really anything from the final
[83:31] act of this movie. I would guess in
[83:33] these trailers, I think there's other
[83:35] stuff going on. So, yeah, I do think
[83:37] that they are going to team up at some
[83:39] point. Um, I don't think he's going to
[83:41] go off worlds or anything like that at
[83:43] the end of this movie.
[83:45] Question. Do you think the DODC will be
[83:46] the main villain giving Scorpion a suit
[83:48] and making Gene control people's minds?
[83:50] Tilman could play a Spidey villain
[83:51] representing the DODC. Yeah, I think the
[83:53] DODC could be villainous in this movie.
[83:56] We see a shot there was like an Empire
[83:58] magazine photo where where Tal Tilman is
[84:02] shaking Peter's hand and it's in the
[84:03] rain. Now, maybe Peter makes like some
[84:06] kind of deal to work with the DODC in
[84:08] the middle part of this movie and he
[84:09] finds out that they're actually really
[84:10] really bad and he turns on them or they
[84:12] turn on him uh after that handshake has
[84:15] happened. But I think they could be the
[84:17] villainous presence of this movie.
[84:21] A Red Hulk call back. I don't think
[84:22] we're going to see Red Hulk in this
[84:24] movie. Um the suit look a little janky.
[84:27] I don't know what shot you're referring
[84:29] to, but maybe you're someone saying
[84:30] like, "Oh, they they VFXed this over a
[84:34] black suit." Um, I don't know. I think
[84:37] editing and VFX and trailer shots often
[84:39] looks a little janky. You know, you
[84:41] don't always know the context.
[84:45] Do we expect any Agents of Shield
[84:47] appearances? Unfortunately, not in this
[84:49] movie.
[84:50] Uh, yeah, Church, thanks for the super
[84:52] chat. A lot of us have been talking
[84:53] about Meline Prior throughout the
[84:55] stream. Um, like Satie Sync could be
[84:57] playing a villain in Brand New Day and
[84:59] Gan Gray later with the Jackal
[85:01] connection. I just think like starting
[85:04] with Meline Prior is just an A to D
[85:06] jump. It's too far of a jump for average
[85:08] movie goers to wrap their heads around.
[85:11] Um, like especially and and if you're
[85:14] someone like Sadie Sink and her agents
[85:15] and her managers, like if you're signing
[85:18] up to play a role in these movies, I
[85:20] don't think you're signing up to play
[85:21] like uh the clone of the bigname
[85:24] character to start with. You know,
[85:27] you're you're signing up to play the
[85:28] character. Sadi sinks star power after
[85:30] Stranger Things is very much on the
[85:32] rise. Um, I I just would be very
[85:35] surprised if if it's Meline Prior, even
[85:38] though that makes more sense to people.
[85:39] You know what I think? the fact that I'm
[85:40] getting so many Meline Prior questions,
[85:42] there's got to be some other Tik Tocker
[85:43] who just was like, "It's Meline Prior
[85:45] instead. I gotta after I do this stream,
[85:47] I'm gonna find whatever Tik Tocker put
[85:49] that in everyone's heads." Uh because it
[85:51] that always happens when I do these
[85:53] streams. It's not the obvious thing.
[85:54] It's this other curveball thing and it's
[85:56] because some big Tik Tocker said it's
[85:58] got to be that and then it's going to be
[86:00] the thing. It's just it's going to be
[86:01] it's going to be Gan Gray. Uh NYC
[86:05] Skyline fight with Red Hulk. Also,
[86:06] Widow's Bay finale was amazing. Great
[86:08] bit of dialogue in the trolley problem.
[86:09] interesting take New Roxers fans since
[86:11] 2020. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[86:12] Thank you. I agree. I'm not going to
[86:14] spoil the Widows Bay finale. Amazing
[86:16] show and I love this finale and I agree.
[86:18] The specifically the way they framed the
[86:20] trolley problem argument blew my mind
[86:23] even more than that episode of The Good
[86:24] Place when they addressed it.
[86:27] I agree. We do need a Phil Coulson
[86:29] return. This movie is not the time for
[86:30] it. Um I think at least two movies pass
[86:34] to pass the torch. They just do one
[86:35] people will feel like they didn't get
[86:37] enough time with both in the same movie.
[86:38] I think all you need is one movie with
[86:40] everyone together to properly pass that
[86:42] torch. That's just me though.
[86:47] Aha. Were you the one who were the
[86:48] origin of the Meline Prior argument?
[86:53] Um Doomsday question, Toby versus Hugh
[86:56] and Deadpool and Doc O as the plus ones
[86:59] for the cold open or something like
[87:00] that. Thanks, brother. Uh
[87:03] neither were confirmed and I think the
[87:05] Rooster brothers have a different
[87:06] opening scene in mind. And I think it's
[87:08] going to start in the Doomstat Armory. I
[87:10] think that's the opening scene of the
[87:12] movie based off of the scoring session
[87:14] with Chainino and the editor and
[87:17] Sylvestri. Um, there were some AI photos
[87:20] going around of like Hugh Jackman and
[87:23] Tobey Maguire and Ryan Reynolds. Those
[87:26] are AI. I don't think all three of those
[87:28] guys are going to be in the movie. Of
[87:30] those three, the likeliest to be in
[87:31] there
[87:34] probably in this order,
[87:37] Deadpool Logan
[87:40] Toby, Peter. Uh, just because I'm I'm
[87:43] putting Deadpool over Wolverine because
[87:45] like we need to explain how Gambit got
[87:49] out of the void to get to the X-Mansion
[87:52] in this universe. And I think it was
[87:54] Deadpool who would have had the sling
[87:55] ring to rescue him. But again, I it
[87:59] could be none of the three are in the
[88:01] movie.
[88:03] I agree. Gene forcing Bruce to Hulk out
[88:05] feels pretty villainous. Again, that is
[88:07] the context of the trailer, I'll admit.
[88:09] Um, it's really Bruce's damaged uh
[88:12] device that caused him to Hulk out. And
[88:14] I don't know if like Gan destroyed that
[88:15] or like something else destroyed that.
[88:18] Uh, but like but he could. I think at
[88:19] some point she will inhabit his brain. I
[88:22] mean, who knows? Maybe she's just trying
[88:24] to get him to the Greyhulk form to go
[88:25] destroy whatever technology the DODC
[88:28] has. It's not about trying to like do
[88:30] massive property damage. Specifically,
[88:32] if you're trying to go to the Green Hulk
[88:35] and then bypass that to Greyhulk, you're
[88:37] trying to have a Hulk that you can just
[88:38] like focus more than just being someone
[88:40] to cause massive property damage.
[88:44] Another question here. Quicksilver is
[88:46] already dead in the MCU, but he was a
[88:48] part of the Brotherhood and X-Men. So,
[88:50] who will take his place as the speedster
[88:52] mutant? Well, I know Vision Quest is
[88:54] gonna establish Tommy Maximoff
[88:58] as uh as the speed of this universe. So,
[89:03] we have a speedster there. We have Mari
[89:05] from the Eternals as a speedster, but I
[89:08] also don't think there has to be a
[89:10] speedster in the Brotherhood of Evil
[89:11] Mutants. Also, once we get to everybody
[89:14] in Secret Wars, it's not that hard to
[89:16] establish that there's a universe where
[89:17] all these alignments of X-Men and and
[89:20] villainous mutants existed where there
[89:22] could be another Quicks. I mean, uh
[89:26] there's still the X-Men universe that
[89:29] we're going to be visiting in this movie
[89:30] that could have a Wanda or a Quicksilver
[89:32] in that universe.
[89:34] Um, we'll see. All it's implied that
[89:37] like Wanda looks like Elizabeth Olsen in
[89:39] every universe in the multiverse. So, if
[89:41] there is a Wanda in the 10005 universe,
[89:44] it's going to look like Elizabeth Olsen.
[89:45] I I just, you know, Lizzie has been
[89:47] asked, and I just don't think she's
[89:49] going to be in Doomsday as much as we
[89:50] all want and need her to be.
[89:53] Um, okay. So, we've been going for about
[89:55] 90 minutes here. Uh, so I might have to
[89:57] call it here so I can get back to work
[89:59] on the Easter egg breakdown that's going
[90:01] to be coming out in a couple hours. Um,
[90:04] thank you all for joining me on this
[90:05] stream. Uh, I feel like I've answered as
[90:07] many questions as I possibly can. And
[90:09] we're going to be going back again and
[90:11] again and again through this trailer to
[90:13] break down everything that you missed.
[90:15] Uh, I really really enjoyed doing this
[90:17] with you guys. Whenever there's like big
[90:19] breaking trailers that come out, uh, I
[90:21] want to be able to break this down with
[90:23] you guys if it's happening while I'm at
[90:25] work. Um, an announcement that I want to
[90:27] make. Uh, New Rockstars is going to be
[90:30] revisiting the three Tom Holland
[90:32] Spider-Man movies. Spider-Man Homecoming
[90:35] from 2017, Spider-Man Far From Home in
[90:37] 2019, and Spider-Man No Way Home from
[90:39] 2021. We're going to do re-breakdowns of
[90:42] those because we realized the breakdowns
[90:44] that we did in the past on New Rockstars
[90:45] were incomplete. There was a lot of
[90:47] details that I did not cover. Even the
[90:49] second time I broke it down, there's
[90:50] just a lot of details that I missed. Uh,
[90:52] from things that like Tom Holland and
[90:54] the and and John Watts and Kevin Feige
[90:57] have said about those movies since then,
[90:59] things that the Russo brothers have said
[91:00] about uh the other Tom Holland Avengers
[91:03] movies that I think it'd be great to
[91:05] rewatch those movies to track the
[91:06] characters journey ahead of Spider-Man
[91:09] brand new day. So, those breakdowns are
[91:11] going to be huge videos that come to the
[91:12] New Rockstars channel in the month of
[91:14] July. We're going to do them weekly in
[91:15] July. So, subscribe if you haven't
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[91:19] Um,
[91:20] and uh, other things. Oh, the shirt I'm
[91:23] wearing is the who's who shirt that you
[91:24] can get get specifically at a merch
[91:26] store, nerd riot.shop, thank you for
[91:28] your super chat. Uh, we all know uh, the
[91:31] talks of Gene, but what if she's not
[91:32] her? She's vessel of someone hopping
[91:34] around a mental entity like Malice or
[91:35] Shadow King. Oh, Shadow King is probably
[91:38] the mutant villain I want to see in the
[91:40] mutant saga first, the first mutant
[91:41] villain. Um, I like that idea, but
[91:44] again, I just think she is going to be
[91:46] the character we all think she is. Um,
[91:49] they're taking the more straightforward,
[91:51] simpler route.
[91:53] Um, again, thank you all for joining me.
[91:55] A huge thanks to Brian for setting up
[91:57] the stream. Hey,
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