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[1:25] BAD START. [1:27] Michael Jackson demonstrates the [1:28] emotional state of every Cinema Sins [1:30] writer assigned to a biopic. Also, [1:32] Comcast [1:35] chant credits, in case you confused it [1:37] with Gary Cise. Also, movie introduces [1:39] Gary before Michael. How's the beeping, [1:41] Michael? How's the beeping, Michael? [1:43] Michael. Michael. [1:44] >> Mike, get back in line. Movie King [1:45] Richards itself so hard from the get-go, [1:47] I felt like I was getting slapped in the [1:48] face by Will Smith in front of a live [1:50] audience. Thank goodness that's not [1:51] something Will Smith would do to anyone [1:53] in real life. This makeup occupies the [1:55] fascinating middle ground between Joseph [1:56] Domingo and Coleman Jackson. This [1:58] Volkswagen product placement is [1:59] directing interested customers to the [2:01] year 1966. [2:02] >> Mikey, why are you playing with your [2:04] food? [2:04] >> Movie has time to prove that those give [2:06] it to Mikey, he'll eat anything [2:07] commercials were always [ __ ] [2:08] >> Come on. You know he never eats. [2:10] >> Shut up, Latoya. [2:11] >> Poor Latoya. I can't imagine what it [2:13] must have been like to be the only girl [2:14] in the Jackson family because Joseph and [2:16] Catherine Jackson only had the one [2:17] daughter. No need to fact check. [2:19] >> Look, I made a face. [2:20] >> Just count Mr. Bill. [2:21] >> Let me tell you something. [2:22] >> Cuz it's the fastest who gets paid and [2:24] it's the fastest who gets laid. [2:26] >> Yeah. Some poor black kids from Gary, [2:28] Indiana. Ain't nothing going to be added [2:30] to you. [2:30] >> Joseph Jackson is saying an [2:32] uncomfortable truth here. The problem is [2:33] that acknowledging structural realities [2:35] of race and poverty makes him a [2:36] considerably more complicated antagonist [2:38] than your typical stock abusive father. [2:40] And the movie never fully develops him [2:41] into a person whose worst behaviors were [2:43] built around some very real [2:44] observations. [2:45] >> No more Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlin, [2:49] >> or Janet, Randy, or Reby either, [2:51] apparently. Throwing coins at performers [2:52] on stage. [2:53] >> Set up your instruments. Come on. [2:54] >> They have school in the morning. What do [2:55] you mean? [2:56] >> The movie spends a lot of time showing [2:57] the Jacksons practicing and almost no [2:59] time showing what they were practicing. [3:00] Did Joseph Jackson have an actual [3:02] teaching philosophy or was his entire [3:04] curriculum just again? [3:05] >> You tired and you think you did good. Is [3:07] that right, Michael? Seriously, the [3:08] heavy makeup and prosthetics can be so [3:10] distracting at times. I think I'm about [3:11] to hear Eddie Murphy's impersonation of [3:13] a Queen's Barber whenever he opens his [3:15] mouth. [3:15] >> You and you. Who's next? [3:18] >> Gone. Big nose. [3:20] >> The biopic equivalent of planting a tree [3:22] whose fruit is future plastic surgery. [3:24] >> Captain Hook met his fate in the jaws of [3:26] his old enemy. [3:27] >> Actually, in just about every version of [3:28] Peter Pan, Captain Hook survives this. [3:30] So, also, the other Jackson kids are [3:32] sleeping surprisingly well with Michael [3:33] inventing the audio book and all. [3:35] Michael appears to have confused [3:36] emotional processing with evidence for [3:37] the audience creation. Living room [3:39] rehearsal. Joseph asking Michael to keep [3:41] his eyes on him. More living room [3:42] rehearsal. Excitement. Movia has given [3:44] this Volkswagen bus more screen time [3:46] than several family members. Reading. [3:48] The audience knows Michael will [3:49] eventually star in The Whiz, so the [3:50] movie plants the Wizard of Oz in his [3:52] childhood as a retroactive destiny [3:53] marker. The movie spends a lot of time [3:55] showing us how Michael Jackson assembled [3:56] his identity as a performer. Every [3:58] influence becomes a future dance move, [4:00] vocal choice, or stage persona. By the [4:01] end of the film, Michael Jackson feels [4:03] meticulously constructed as an [4:04] entertainer and strangely underdeveloped [4:06] as a human being. Joseph's narrative [4:07] function as an abuser continues [4:09] replacing his character with a living, [4:10] breathing trauma explanation. Laughing [4:12] together as a family gets reduced to a [4:14] montage footnote while every trauma [4:16] receives a full congressional hearing. [4:18] Also, generic shot of a family laughing [4:19] around the dinner table during a montage [4:21] is generic and montagey. [4:24] >> We are laughing. [4:25] >> Am I removing a sin for never can say [4:27] goodbye? Yes. Am I adding a sin because [4:29] we aren't even into 1969 yet and they [4:31] didn't release this song until 1971? [4:32] Also, yes. Mot [4:35] laughing at a noun. [4:36] >> I'll be in touch, Mr. Jackson. [4:38] >> Suzanne says she'll be in touch, but [4:40] gives Joseph a card with her number on [4:41] it and doesn't get his number. Is she [4:42] going to call her own number? Also, the [4:44] movie wants us to believe that Suzanne [4:45] Deac discovered the Jackson 5 and [4:47] brought them to Mottown Records, but in [4:49] reality, a Canadian soul band helped [4:51] them get a recorded audition at Mottown [4:53] that convinced Barry Gordy to sign them. [4:54] So, the sin as always is Canada. Also, [4:57] also the Jackson 5's brief and exciting [4:59] search for industry connections has been [5:00] completed at the speed required by the [5:02] runtime. Nice year. [5:04] >> We'll start with Michael. [5:05] >> This subtle foreshadowing of Michael as [5:06] the alpha and the omega of pop music. [5:08] Heaven Loren Tate and Neil Long both in [5:10] the same movie, but not giving them one [5:12] scene together and the proper reunion [5:13] that all of us Love Jones fans have been [5:15] jonesing for. [5:16] >> Michael, um, this is Clen Fandango. Can [5:18] you hear me? [5:19] >> Say Joseph, don't you worry about [5:20] keeping the boys on schedule. We got [5:22] this over here. Joseph Jackson's [5:23] displacement becomes one of the movies's [5:25] biggest recurring tracks. The deeper [5:27] cuts appear to have been left off the [5:28] album, but also scene sets up all this [5:30] tension between Joseph and Barry Gordy [5:32] that is never brought up again. Gordy is [5:33] only in a couple more scenes after this [5:35] bit and they're basically drivebys. [5:36] Pointless tension is pointless. [5:38] >> I've been doing this a long time. Never [5:39] heard a voice quite like yours. [5:41] >> The Supremes, the four tops, Marvin Gay, [5:43] the Temptations, Glattus Knight, and [5:44] Stevie Wonder have all entered the chat. [5:46] >> What's EQ? [5:46] >> Equalization. [5:47] >> And Antoine Fukqua directed The [5:49] Equalizer, which can't possibly be [5:50] unrelated. movie treats this hug like a [5:52] major transfer of emotional power. Yet, [5:54] there are no signs that either Joseph or [5:56] Barry experienced the quickening. [5:58] >> Hey, Michael, you can ask me anything [5:59] anytime you want. [6:00] >> And by most accounts, Barry Gordy was an [6:02] influential figure in Michael's life. [6:03] But judging by Loren Tate's screen time, [6:05] Michael never asked him another question [6:06] that the movie thought was relevant. [6:08] >> In this business, you can make up just [6:09] about anything. [6:10] >> Bold statement coming from a movie based [6:12] on a true story, humanity briefly [6:13] considered making televisions almost [6:15] round. [6:16] >> Michael, how old are you? presenting [6:17] child superstardom as a fascinating fact [6:19] rather than a potentially alarming [6:21] situation. In this press conference, [6:22] Michael has asked how old he is. And [6:24] even though he's 10, he says eight, like [6:26] Barry Gordy instructed him to. So this [6:27] movie has now spent two goddamn scenes [6:29] on this kid lying about his age by two [6:31] whole [ __ ] years. And yet it gives us [6:33] zero explanation as to why that's [6:34] important and it never comes up again. [6:36] Musical biopic has a random insert of [6:38] the Billboard chart showing the song's [6:40] climb to the top cliche. This Peacock [6:42] reminding me I need to cancel Peacock [6:43] before I get build again. There is more [6:45] Disney masturbation going on in this [6:46] movie than in most movies that are [6:47] actually produced by Walt Disney. [6:49] >> And make sure you put your rat in the [6:50] cage this time. [6:51] >> Movie accidentally credits Marlon [6:52] Jackson on melancholy and the infinite [6:54] sadness. [6:55] >> Meet Bill Bray. He's your new head of [6:56] security. [6:57] >> Skipping the casual chain of why [6:59] security and jumping straight to the [7:00] narrative importance of this guy. Also, [7:02] Bill Bray spends the rest of the movie [7:03] appearing to be both head of security [7:05] and all of security. [7:06] >> Guard him with your life. [7:07] >> I don't know why this line is trying to [7:08] make me think Bill eventually took a [7:10] bullet for Michael instead of living to [7:11] be 80 years old. Michael, you're missing [7:14] the best part. [7:15] >> Pretending there's even a good part in [7:16] Singing in the Rain. Also, Michael [7:18] watches Singing in the Rain and the [7:19] movie immediately starts refining it [7:21] into the fuel for some future [7:23] performance, ignoring the possibility [7:24] that he simply enjoyed a film wanton. [7:26] >> And llamas have three stomachs so they [7:28] can digest their food because all they [7:30] eat is vegetables. [7:31] >> Support for my argument that I'm [7:32] anatomically obligated to eat [7:34] cheeseburgers somehow makes it into the [7:35] script. [7:36] >> So, you want me to bring some spitting, [7:37] agitated animal into my house? Catherine [7:39] acts like she didn't raise nine [7:41] children. [7:41] >> And you don't need another pet. [7:43] >> They're not my pets. They're my friends. [7:45] >> As generic and tiresome as much of this [7:47] movie can be, one striking thing is the [7:50] performances. And while Jafar Jackson is [7:51] rightly credited for bringing the pop [7:53] singer to life as an adult, we shouldn't [7:54] discount Juliano Valdi's performance as [7:56] a young Michael. He makes acting seem [7:58] like it's ABC. Easy as one, two, three. [8:00] Sorry, I'll leave now. [8:02] >> But don't you want to meet real friends? [8:03] Like kids your own age? [8:05] >> I'm not like the other kids. They don't [8:07] treat me like a real person. All they [8:09] want to do is stare at and take pictures [8:10] of me. [8:11] >> The psychology of growing up famous [8:12] enough that your peers stop treating you [8:14] like a person may have deserved more [8:16] than one conversation in a movie [8:17] covering the entirety of his youth. [8:18] >> Then you know what Jehovah says. [8:20] >> Scene that mentions Jehovah does not [8:22] also contain a Last Crusade. [8:23] >> May you let your light shine. [8:25] >> Understanding skip. Michael delivers an [8:27] emotionally convincing performance of [8:28] I'll be there in a movie mostly [8:30] uninterested in the question of where a [8:32] child acquired that emotional [8:33] vocabulary. serenating an audience [8:35] member without their explicit consent. I [8:36] know it's the 70s and I have heard the [8:38] Steve Harvey bit, but god damn, as [8:40] popular as the Jackson 5 were at this [8:42] point, they couldn't afford to have more [8:43] than one mic on stage. [8:44] >> Pure escapism, Quincy. [8:46] >> Damn, Jafar Jackson nails the voice [8:47] without making it weird. Well, any [8:49] weirder than Michael Jackson's voice [8:50] already wants? [8:51] >> How are you going to tell your father [8:52] about a solo album? [8:53] >> Just the tip of the iceberg on what [8:54] we'll hear about Joseph's feelings on [8:56] Michael's solo career. While the movie [8:57] remains considerably less curious about [8:59] his brother's opinions on the matter. I [9:00] need you to tell my father that the solo [9:02] album is your idea. [9:04] >> I hope you enjoy that. Michael decides [9:05] something he wants to do but is scared [9:07] to tell his dad so he'll have someone [9:08] else do it until finally he kind of does [9:10] it himself in the end stick because it [9:11] will happen around 87 more times. [9:13] >> I need the freedom to write the music [9:15] and lyrics that pop into my head. [9:17] >> The movie treats this like a major [9:18] creative breakthrough without ever fully [9:20] explaining what was stopping Michael [9:21] from writing songs in the first place. [9:22] It's not like we all arrived at the [9:24] theater with a working knowledge of [9:25] 1970s Mottown songwriting policies. I [9:27] own his ass from 9 to5. [9:29] >> Painting the life of a rock star as a [9:31] Monday through Friday 9 to5 situation [9:32] might be the most unbelievable part of [9:34] this movie. [9:34] >> We get some sleep, Lily. [9:36] >> The movie keeps presenting potentially [9:37] deeper character revealing behaviors and [9:39] then filing them away under Michael was [9:41] quirky. Also, kissing a llama without [9:43] his explicit consent. [9:44] >> You ready, Joker? [9:44] >> Honestly, one of the better portrayals [9:46] of the character that DC has put out in [9:48] recent years. I'd [9:48] >> rather let Louie drive. [9:50] >> To be fair, llamas are statistically [9:51] better drivers than 98% of humans. [9:53] >> Keep these feet still. The fact that [9:55] this movie thinks Michael not being able [9:56] to keep his feet still in a recording [9:58] studio is an interesting enough subject [9:59] that it had to be broached twice. [10:01] >> You're confident, you're strong, you're [10:04] beautiful. [10:04] >> Using a discount Steuart Smallley guide [10:06] to hyping yourself up in the recording [10:08] studio. [10:08] >> I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And [10:10] dog gone it, people like me. [10:12] >> The song he is singing, Don't Stop Till [10:14] You Get Enough, becomes a musical [10:15] metaphor for consuming enough great [10:17] Michael Jackson songs that you stop [10:18] noticing how little new information [10:20] you're learning about Michael Jackson. I [10:21] hope Michael will ask the air for [10:22] consent for gyrating that forcefully, [10:24] but I doubt he did. The days when Tower [10:26] Records still existed in the US. Godamn [10:28] you, Spotify. Fan mail will consume a [10:30] surprising square footage of this house [10:32] and this movie's runtime. Michael's [10:33] charitable work isn't really up for [10:34] debate here. The movie's tendency to [10:36] deploy it as supporting evidence [10:37] absolutely is. Scarface money counting [10:39] meme energy. Oh man, they drag poor [10:42] Robbie Williams into this mess. [10:43] >> I want you to be my new friend. Bubbles [10:45] >> scene does not contain the relief on [10:46] Joseph and Catherine's face when the [10:48] bubbles Michael is referring to ends up [10:50] being a chimpanzeee and not a random [10:51] stripper he brought home. Also, we are [10:53] currently in the year of our lord 1980. [10:55] And while the exact year that Michael [10:56] adopted bubbles has never been agreed [10:57] upon publicly, it was definitely closer [10:59] to 1983 than 1980. Movie doesn't adopt [11:01] bubbles correctly. [11:02] >> I rescued him from this awful place, you [11:04] know, where they do testing on animals. [11:06] >> But I left all the other animals there [11:07] because [ __ ] them. Am I right? [11:09] >> Chimps are sensitive though, you know, [11:10] discern sounds and and people. Movie [11:12] thinks it has time for a quick lesson on [11:14] the safety measures to take around [11:15] chimpanzees and it does not. [11:17] >> This is Neverland. [11:18] >> Movie repeatedly points us toward it [11:20] connection to Peter Pan as though the [11:22] reference itself constitutes an [11:23] explanation. [11:24] >> The Lost Boys [11:25] >> scene mentioning the Lost Boys does not [11:27] contain a Kefir William Frederick [11:29] Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland. [11:30] >> Just Ben cream from a veneiligo. [11:32] >> Somehow certain topics became mandatory [11:34] stops on the Michael Jackson storytime [11:36] express. [11:36] >> You see my face isn't symmetrical. [11:38] >> It is. [11:40] >> You're the boss. Bruce Springsteen has [11:41] entered the chat trying to touch the [11:43] whole world without enthusiastic [11:44] consent. [11:45] >> Maybe I should get a nose job. [11:46] >> Sister [11:47] >> muscle says everybody does. [11:48] >> Taking your plastic surgery advice from [11:50] a python. As reported in many medical [11:52] journals, pythons give terrible medical [11:54] advice. Also using everybody does it as [11:56] your reason for doing said thing [11:57] everybody is doing. [11:58] >> The Jackson family is the brand. That's [12:01] our Coca-Cola. [12:02] >> The Rock and Roller Cola Wars are never [12:04] credited on this film. [12:05] >> Folks going to go out there and stop [12:06] buying some Pepsi. [12:07] >> They will not. Let's go. Michael storms [12:08] out of the family meeting to find Billy [12:10] ready and waiting by his car. This may [12:11] have really happened this way, but it's [12:13] still hella convenient that he wasn't [12:14] taking a poop. Wait, did Billy read the [12:16] script? One minute of mopey motor [12:17] moving. [12:18] >> And no matter what you do, he's only [12:19] ever going to see it as a family [12:21] success. [12:21] >> Viscount Den Visel encourages you to [12:23] move against the family. Oh no. Movie [12:25] really spells this one out for us and [12:27] underlines it multiple times. The fact [12:29] that skinny ties were ever in fashion. [12:31] >> I mean, the whole point's going solo, [12:33] right? Alex Hnold. Every time he walks [12:34] past something that doesn't need to be [12:35] climbed, somehow makes it into the [12:37] script. [12:37] >> You want to be the biggest star in the [12:38] world. [12:39] >> Can you help make that happen? [12:40] >> They could have just smashed cut to [12:41] Michael standing on the torch of the [12:42] Statue of Liberty and gotten me out of [12:43] here in under an hour. [12:44] >> How? [12:45] >> Because I believe there's no one like [12:47] you. [12:48] >> John Brana was just asked how he could [12:49] make Michael the biggest star in the [12:51] world. And instead of answering [12:52] specifically how he would do it, he just [12:53] blew more smoke up Michael's ass. And so [12:55] this works. Joseph did not get fired by [12:57] Fax Machine in real life. And I don't [12:59] mind the movie attempting to make this a [13:00] more dramatic kind of thing than what [13:02] was probably a boring meaning in real [13:04] life. But fired by facts isn't exactly [13:06] lighting the place on fire either. This [13:08] joker's got terrible marksmanship. [13:09] >> How do I sign this? [13:11] >> Signing something that the person is now [13:12] forced to purchase in order to keep the [13:14] autograph. Also, autographing items in a [13:16] store before the customers have bought [13:17] said items. [13:18] >> Guys, look. I got Twister. [13:20] >> I can't figure out if it's weirder that [13:22] Michael thinks his grown brothers would [13:23] want to play Twister or that if he was [13:25] that into board games, he didn't already [13:27] own Twister. Or maybe I'm just weird. [13:28] Let's just send all three. Who has time [13:30] for this? His dad is right there when he [13:32] turns around because being caught off [13:33] guard remains one of the cheapest ways [13:35] to manufacture tension. Also, Michael [13:37] seems surprisingly unprepared for the [13:38] possibility of encountering the angry [13:40] man he just fired in the house they both [13:41] live in. [13:42] >> Firing your own father. [13:43] >> Thinking that's worse than exploiting [13:44] your own son for your own financial [13:46] gain. And maybe that's the point. But [13:47] god damn it, I still hate fathers like [13:49] Joseph. So, I'm going to send the out of [13:50] him. [13:50] >> You got a lot to learn about family. [13:52] >> Joe will continue trying to get this [13:53] movie to cross over into the Fast [13:55] franchise. [13:56] >> He's an actor. He's a movie director and [13:58] he writes songs. [13:59] >> I have a dog. [14:00] >> Kids, [14:01] >> it's a dog send. He's getting fat. [14:03] >> Body shaming your pets. What an [ __ ] [14:05] >> If Haley's comic came every year, just [14:08] year after year, would you look at it? [14:10] >> Yes. Humans line up for Manhattan every [14:13] year. Michael, we are not complicated. [14:14] >> If I'm not here to receive these ideas, [14:17] God might give him the prince. [14:20] >> But also, that's Princess. I can't [14:22] imagine a world where taking your llama [14:23] for a walk makes you the weird one. [14:28] This finger snapping song forming [14:29] sequence just beats it for all the [14:31] sometime. As someone who believed before [14:33] the movie that the man had thoughts and [14:34] took notes, I find that not much is [14:36] being revealed here. [14:37] >> I think music and dance is what we all [14:39] have in common. [14:40] >> Michael gives a stump speech about why [14:41] gang violence is bad. And the movie [14:43] seems prepared to declare mission cure [14:44] the world of gang violence accomplished. [14:46] We're still beating it, y'all. The [14:48] movie's idea of people working on this [14:49] together is less meaningful rhetorical [14:51] exchange and more watching Michael and [14:53] professional dancers rehearse [14:54] choreography. Considering Michael's [14:55] infamous sponsorship of Pepsi Coke's [14:57] product placement in this movie might be [14:58] the biggest [ __ ] you and I don't hate [15:00] it. I'm going to send it, but I don't [15:01] hate it. [15:02] >> CBS wants you to call the album Michael [15:03] Jackson [15:04] >> two week century. [15:05] >> But this is not his first album. He [15:07] would call the first album Michael or [15:08] Michael Jackson, not a later album. So [15:10] the sin is always his record executives [15:12] and Michael Jackson since in 2010 he [15:14] would release an album called Michael [15:15] like an [ __ ] If a horror movie is [15:17] being shown on television within a [15:18] movie, nine times out of 10 it's Night [15:20] of the Living Dead because it's in the [15:21] public domain cliche. [15:23] >> That's rock and roll. That's some Van [15:24] Halen. [15:25] >> I mean, maybe some Van Halen 3 [ __ ] but [15:27] otherwise, it most definitely is not. I [15:29] get you can't do a Michael Jackson movie [15:31] covering the 80s without showing some of [15:32] the thriller video, but it's still [15:34] cliched as hell and not as thrilling as [15:36] the movie would lead you to believe, and [15:37] definitely getting sick. Also, it's a [15:39] great music video. I've seen it a [15:41] thousand times. However, watching it [15:42] again somehow still doesn't tell me much [15:44] about the man making it. [15:45] >> If this kid did a duet with Reaper, we'd [15:48] own the goddamn country charts. [15:49] >> You're okay, Shrek. [15:50] >> We need to get his videos on MTV. MTV [15:53] tries as hard as it can to not play [15:54] music cliche. [15:56] >> Believe me, John, I have tried. [15:58] >> With love, Walter, please try harder. [16:00] >> And this record executive's heart grew [16:01] three sizes that day. He was having a [16:04] coronary, but once word spread of [16:05] Michael's powerful and vengeful magic, a [16:07] fear for their lives compelled MTV to [16:09] embrace black artists while somehow [16:10] continuing to grow more racist with each [16:12] successive season of The Real World. [16:14] >> Better still, second row. You don't want [16:16] to be in the front row for them. Those [16:17] French artists, they're not so big on [16:19] showering. [16:19] >> That's frenchest. Also, how would being [16:21] only one row back help you get away from [16:23] the stench? [16:24] >> You can put them all in a plastic bag, [16:26] cover the plastic bag in Crisco, and [16:28] then shove them up your ass. Yeah, your [16:31] butthole. [16:32] >> Krisco later issued guidance that this [16:33] was outside the intended use and put you [16:35] at higher risk for cholesterol-related [16:37] heart disease, but stopped short of [16:39] actively discouraging it. Also, the idea [16:40] that the head of MTV would have to have [16:42] the meaning of ass explained to him. [16:43] movie makes it seem like Michael [16:44] performed Billy Gene at the Mottown [16:46] Special after he filmed the Thriller [16:47] video. But the Mottown special was [16:49] filmed in March of 1983 and aired in May [16:51] of 1983. The Thriller Video didn't even [16:53] start filming until September of 1983. [16:56] >> They single-handedly revitalized the [16:58] music business. [16:58] >> This movie sure is a lot of tell and no [17:00] show. Maybe we could have at least seen [17:01] a little more of how he revitalized the [17:03] music business and less shopping for [17:04] toys. This singular dance move blew the [17:06] world's collective mind loads. So, it [17:08] would be criminal for a Michael Jackson [17:10] biopic not to include it. However, this [17:12] doesn't mean that the process by which a [17:13] human being first conceived of moving [17:15] like that must remain classified. Movie [17:17] acts like this crowd is any different [17:18] than a typical day in New York City. [17:20] Random final appearance of Barry Gordy [17:22] is random. [17:22] >> I love the way you promote your [17:24] fighters. You're the king of marketing. [17:25] >> Don King was a hell of a marketing [17:27] genius, but there were also countless [17:28] marketing geniuses that actually worked [17:30] in the music business that Joseph would [17:32] have been able to contact just as [17:33] easily. Just because the Don King [17:34] connection really happened doesn't make [17:36] it any less weird. [17:37] >> I may have something for you, [17:38] >> Pepsi. [17:38] >> Don King survives this. people who lays [17:40] around the house watching television who [17:42] don't take off their ties first. [17:44] >> Why are you here? [17:44] >> Well, he's here because the movie [17:46] remains convinced that Joseph Jackson [17:47] was the only obstacle in Michael's life [17:49] story and will continue to act [17:50] accordingly. [17:51] >> Can a father visit his son? [17:52] >> Equating visiting your son to snooping [17:54] around your son's bedroom when they [17:55] aren't there. [17:56] >> How many need you to do this for me, for [17:57] your family? [17:58] >> The movie remains frustratingly vague on [18:00] whether Joseph needs the victory tour [18:02] for his family, his finances, his [18:03] legacy, his ego, or some combination [18:05] thereof. Yeah, you'll be with all the [18:07] money in the world surrounded by people [18:09] who say yes to everything. [18:11] >> Joe is kind of right here. And the movie [18:12] does want you to know that, but it never [18:14] really wants you to feel that. Pepsi [18:15] almost killed arguably the most popular [18:17] person on the planet and didn't have to [18:19] shut down. The whole thing is [ __ ] up, [18:21] but in a weirdly impressive way. I mean, [18:22] 2 hours of that legal minefield might [18:24] have been a more revealing narrative. [18:25] >> You have to stay on the demo for a [18:27] while. [18:27] >> I don't want to take medication. through [18:29] line to the circumstances of his [18:31] ultimate death is hinted at here as if [18:32] it is out of necessity even though it is [18:34] not in service of the story. [18:36] >> You see the number of people who have [18:37] already gathered outside the hospital. [18:39] If that isn't a testament to the star [18:41] power of Michael Jackson, I don't know [18:43] what is. [18:43] >> It's also the testament to how nosy and [18:45] unaware of personal boundaries most [18:47] people are. But for whatever reason, the [18:49] news never reports that aspect. I'm not [18:50] trying to downplay the extent to which [18:52] prescription meds led to the eventual [18:54] death of Michael Jackson, but this [18:55] movie's obvious and somewhat tackless [18:57] way of pointing us to where it started [18:58] is obvious and tackless. This movie [19:00] beats us over the head with a Peter Pan [19:02] metaphor harder than Peter Pan's [19:03] Neverland Nightmare. I didn't actually [19:05] see that movie, but just wanted to point [19:06] out the absurdity of a slasher film [19:08] called Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmare. [19:10] >> What about the other boys? [19:11] >> And Latoya can just go herself, I guess. [19:13] Jafar Jackson's stage performance as [19:14] Michael is very effective. I don't have [19:16] an interesting way to say everything. [19:17] Jeez, the Dodgers. This is our last and [19:20] final tour. [19:20] >> I get the telling his dad to off part of [19:22] all this, but his brothers have done [19:24] nothing. And I feel like at the very [19:26] least, Michael could have let them in on [19:27] this plan, making me kind of dislike the [19:29] title character less than 10 minutes [19:31] from the ending is a weird shift, but [19:32] here we are. Movie ends on 4 minutes and [19:34] 4 seconds of a bad performance. Also, [19:36] this movie is 75% musical montages and [19:39] performances. And while considering it's [19:40] a movie about arguably the most famous [19:42] musical artist ever, it makes sense we'd [19:44] hear some songs, but there is so little [19:46] story in between that it almost feels [19:47] like a selection of home videos versus [19:49] an intricately laidout story. And maybe [19:51] you'd say, "I just came to hear the [19:52] songs." And then I would say, "That's [19:54] what Spotify is for, asshole." And then [19:55] you would say, "Why so hostile?" And [19:57] then I would give my best Julia Styles [19:58] impression and say, [19:59] >> "I'm not hostile. I'm annoyed." [20:02] >> And then you would say, "Oh god, 10 [20:03] Things I Hate About You is a bigger [20:04] insult to Shakespeare than she's the [20:06] man." And then I killed you. juxtaposing [20:08] the possible death of this woman with [20:09] Michael Jackson lighting up the crowd [20:10] was a choice. [20:13] And that was it. Nothing else ever [20:16] happened of any interest in Michael [20:17] Jackson's life. That is the end of the [20:20] story. Oh, it's not the end of the [20:21] story. They've just decided to build two [20:22] biopics for twice the price. [20:30] Why does it hurt so much?