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title: 'How to Grow Your YouTube Channel from 5,000 to 220,000 Subscribers in One Year'
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date: 2026-07-14
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# How to Grow Your YouTube Channel from 5,000 to 220,000 Subscribers in One Year

> Source: [How to Grow Your YouTube Channel from 5,000 to 220,000 Subscribers in One Year](https://youtube.com/watch?v=EF1aB9KBDV4)

## Summary

In this interview, Daryl Eves speaks with his student Jonathan Michael, who shares his journey from struggling on YouTube to growing his channel to over 220,000 subscribers in one year. They discuss the importance of understanding the viewer, using the bucket system for content, and the mindset needed to succeed on the platform.

### Key Points

- **Introduction and Purpose** [00:00] — Daryl Eves introduces the interview, emphasizing that YouTube allows creators to turn passion into a business and impact lives. He aims to help struggling YouTubers gain clarity on content creation.
- **Jonathan's Struggles and Turning Point** [02:30] — Jonathan started his channel two years ago, initially seeing success with a video that got 40,000 views, but then his videos tanked. He felt like quitting until he discovered Daryl's content and began implementing the strategies.
- **Overcoming Self-Doubt** [05:00] — Jonathan discusses the inner voice that tells creators to quit, and emphasizes that every creator hears it. Pushing past that voice is key to success.
- **Focus on the Viewer, Not Just Content** [07:30] — Daryl stresses that many creators focus too much on content quality rather than bringing value that the viewer receives. YouTube is about the viewer, not the creator's ego.
- **Recon and Research: Finding Winning Topics** [10:00] — Jonathan explains how he researched top channels in his niche, analyzed their highest-performing videos, and identified patterns. He found that broad topics like 'Second Coming of Christ' have wider appeal than narrow ones like 'The Rapture'.
- **Using AI Channels for Topic Validation** [15:00] — Jonathan studied AI-generated channels that had a few viral videos, noting the topics that performed well. He compiled a list of trending topics and used that data to guide his content creation.
- **The Bucket System Explained** [20:00] — Daryl and Jonathan discuss the bucket system: creating content with the same style, format, and feel, but changing the specific topic. This helps YouTube recommend related videos and builds a loyal audience.
- **Starting with the Center: The Jesus Map Video** [25:00] — Jonathan wanted to create a video about Abraham's life on a map, but Daryl advised starting with Jesus because He is the center of Christianity. The video 'The Entire Life of Jesus on a Map' got 2.6 million views.
- **Timing and Evergreen Content** [30:00] — Jonathan released the Jesus map video near Christmas, which boosted its performance. The topic is evergreen, so it continues to get views year-round.
- **Consistency and Hiring Help** [35:00] — Daryl advises Jonathan to post more frequently (currently every three weeks) and to hire additional editors to maintain momentum. Longer videos (20-30 minutes) work well for explainer content.
- **Workweek Analytics for Productivity** [40:00] — Daryl recommends tracking your week to identify time-wasting activities and optimize your schedule. Focus on your most productive hours for deep work like scriptwriting.
- **Q&A: How to Choose Between Ideas** [45:00] — Jonathan suggests picking the idea with the highest likelihood of success by looking at what has already performed well in your niche or similar niches.
- **Q&A: Multiple Buckets and Avoiding Exhaustion** [50:00] — Daryl explains that creators should aim for 4-5 buckets to avoid viewer fatigue and to allow each bucket to breathe. Experiment with new buckets once existing ones are working.
- **Final Advice: Create for the Viewer** [55:00] — Jonathan advises creators to put the same effort into every video as if a million people will see it, because even flops can take off months later. Daryl adds: create for the viewer, not yourself.

### Conclusion

The interview highlights that YouTube success comes from understanding the viewer, using data-driven research to find winning topics, and building a content strategy around buckets. Consistency, patience, and a focus on value are essential for long-term growth.

## Transcript

so we all have like this love for something and we're passionate about something and that passion generally will lead to Opportunities and what I'm really excited about is YouTube because YouTube gives you the opportunity to take that passion and start to grow and you can actually uh build audiences and then also make amazing impactful content that can Elevate the world and for me that's why I love YouTube is the opportunity to treat it as a business but also take that passion and impact more lives uh those lives that can be impacted is something that I get really excited about so if you are a YouTuber struggling to try to figure it out trying to figure out what would work what doesn't work I want this video this this live stream this interview to help you have a little bit more clarity of the things that are really important when you're actually addressing content creation on YouTube uh I also want to go in depth on the ramifications of what could happen if you actually speak to the viewer which is what we want to talk about right and at the end of the day is taking your passion and putting it out for the world and really growing so super excited to be here if you're new to me I'm darl EES I've been on YouTube since 2005 I worked with some of the biggest content creators on the planet um I own vidsummit which is a conference for YouTubers to learn everything YouTube and also the business side um and for me I like to do these interviews to give you an opportunity Glimpse that the everyday person can actually go and succeed on YouTube and you know this is kind of my give back moment you know to encourage you to really uh seize this opportunity which is YouTube and and and I love it I love YouTube so much I really do and one of my favorite things to do is help people that have passion and and and and show them kind of the the the things that they need to do to improve so that they can take that passion and really make a sustainable business and so I am joined on by one of my students Jonathan Michael how you doing Jonathan good Daryl thanks I I'm really excited about this because I remember our first conversation that we had and um it was it was about what year and a half ago or whatever it was about a year ago a year ago yeah and um I I remember uh having the conversation you're talking about oh yeah I really like the chosen like me too I like Theo because uh you know eight years ago I I I took YouTube and and was able to start a TV show uh now I I produce and my partner Dallas Jenkins just amazing um and we're rolling out Fifth Season you you're a big fan and you're like wait uh but he also does YouTube this is interesting and so we had that conversation so why don't you kind of introduce yourself and and share uh a little bit of how you started your journey and let's kind of deep deep dive into this yeah so first of all I just want to say something um a year ago I was struggling like like when when I was on that call with you um there was hardly any views coming in I felt like I had put so much energy and effort into the channel and I just wasn't seeing any results uh I felt like quitting um probably much like many of the people on this call Y and what happened was I came across your content I came across your book and I just started doing what you said and the all all of the the formula the you know everything that you teach I started implementing it and now today the channel is uh has skyrocketed of views it's it's absolutely incredible so thank you for that I just want to say thanks you're welcome you're welcome and I like for me um it's like when I when I started doing mentoring I was like I I want to Mentor people that want to win and when when we had conversations you know I could kind of fill your heart of why you wanted to do that I'm like okay if there's ever person in the world that needs to win is you thank you I'm really really grateful for that okay well let let's kind of start out on this because I I do believe uh you know people watch types of interviews like this and they they'll read you know the YouTube formula which uh right here if you don't have a copy put in word book we'll get you a book um for there as well um but like they'll they'll read and and they don't apply anything um and so when when did you start on YouTube how long has it been you know what was your journey on that so I started a couple years ago and um I wanted to make content uh about my my own fa Faith so like Bible content I wanted to help um help people understand it better and uh so I started uploading videos and what happened was uh the third video that I uploaded popped off um so I I I uploaded my first video got like 500 views I uploaded my second video it got maybe a th but my third video got like 40,000 views and so what I what I had thought at the time was wow I'm really good at this um you know I must be this this you know this genius and uh that couldn't be further that further from the truth um what I learned after that every video I uploaded after that just just totally tanked and the reason was I didn't understand why that video did well which now looking back I understand why it did well now that I've learned some of these things and um and so it was about a year ago that I you know had uploaded a lot of videos at that point and had just kind of uh was struggling struggling to get views and um I actually came across a vidsummit video um and um I know you have vidsummit coming out or the next next vid Summit in October but I I came across this vid summit video and it was um Roberto Blake oh yeah he's good yeah he's awesome and and so there was something that he said that just stuck with me that I've just carried with me to this point and what he said was um because the reality is the this Christian Niche there was there's thousands of people make making content and uh you know all kinds of videos all kinds of uh Christians people from all over the world making Christian content so it's like what are the odds that I'm going to actually stand out against all of these thousands of other people that are also making content but what Roberto said really stuck out to me he said um there's no such thing as oversaturation of high quality content yeah there's only oversaturated lowquality content on YouTube he said the amount of content the amount of channels that are producing high quality content is very very low and so when you think of it in that terms now it starts to narrow down the field quite a bit and you start thinking to yourself oh I think I can do this if I can just produce content that's high quality uh that that people are going to enjoy and want to watch and because here's what happens is when I would make a video um and and I'm sure a lot of your a lot of the people on this call can can uh can say yes to this um what happens is you make a video and uh you put a lot of effort and work into it and then you see that the video only gets like a thousand views or only gets like 500 views or 10 or 10 views yeah exactly and so then there's like this little voice in your head that starts telling you uh you know what this isn't worth it you should just quit yep and then and then so then you you say you know what no voice I'm going to try it again and you do it again and then you fail again yep and then you re and then there's this little voice telling you again you know what you're not cut out for this like and I I heard this little voice in my head every single time I would make a new video yep and what you have to do is you have to train your mind to say um to you have to train your mind to understand that every other Creator out there is also hearing that little voice as well so it's not just you which means if you're the Creator that can push past that little voice and learn to ignore it and block it out then eventually if you learn the right strategies if you get the right mentorship the right education you're gonna grow yeah I I love that for a lot of reasons because I think um one one of the the things that really slows us down in the world is self-doubt and um um and I I think you know there's bold steps that need to be made uh but most people can't do it because they're like afraid to I'm too afraid to do this or I'm too afraid to do that um I was actually on a a call with a student uh yesterday and she's just like blowing up and I'm like oh let's like get more frequent and we went into the specifics of it and she almost went paralyzed she's like ah you know I I need to see what's going to happen with the next video because I don't want it to underperform I'm like you're missing the point and that's where I want to that's where I want to start is what is the point um I I think people come on to YouTube and they have a desire to grow and um my my thing is when I Mentor someone uh I actually do what you just recommend I I I the first week is like goal setting mindset it's like hey we're we're gonna create a plan for this to happen we don't even talk YouTube um like I don't care if the goals are even related to YouTube I just want to get them to realize the way that I process things but then then we get into the specifics and this is where um I want to to really focus in on yeah uh so many people really only focus in on their content and that's not what I focus in on I I I don't I I think so many are so obsessed need to make better content and uh I'm not uh disagreeing with Roberto Blake of like hey having quality content but what I'm saying is you need to bring value that value uh needs to come across and that value needs to be received by a viewer uh because if there's one thing that YouTube's all about it's about the viewer it's not about the Creator I know that the egos of creators are thinking oh my gosh you know it's YouTube's for me or YouTube hates me no YouTube doesn't hate you um it's it's people people might not like your videos and so it's just like can we can we take that back so um I I want to start your journey because like you you started on YouTube and and you got frustrated you had this thing in your head saying ah maybe I'm not good enough I'm only getting you know 500 views I think a lot of people would be excited with 500 views if they're only getting 10 but um you're like oh I put so much energy into it it deserves more or am I not doing something right um let's talk about that first stage and you you can kind of openly talk about you know my mentoring in in this regard but it's like when you change your focus on your content creation because you did you you didn't change your content creation but you changed your focus of how you're going to approach it let's kind of talk about that because I think a lot of people can find Value in really understanding the viewer uh that would be uh would take your content as value yeah so um a couple of things um so you so I'm passionate about what about the videos um there's a message that I want to share with the world and I'm sure you know everyone on this call has a message that they want to share um and so you know I'm making all of these videos but for some reason they're not getting the views and you know there was videos that like for example there was a video I I literally put 80 hours of work into and the video just totally flopped and it's because of it's be so the video was high quality but um it wasn't a direct I I wasn't thinking about the audience I wasn't thinking about who's watching these videos and so um what happened was um once I started getting a hold of Daryl's content once I started getting a hold of your content um I started really thinking about the viewer and um one of the things that you go really deep into and that caused me to go really deep into is to do a lot of Recon and research Yeah so basically it is looking at uh all of the channels in your Niche not all of them but all of the highest performing channels in your Niche so I took like 30 of the top uh Christian content out there um and specifically you know there's a lot of different Christian content out there there's reaction videos there's podcast right I was looking for more of like ex Bible explainers you know or something close to that vein and so I took the top 30 channels that were uh doing the highest views and there was one video though that really stuck out so what I so what I did as a you know I made a list of all of the all of these channels then I made a list of all of their top videos from the last year and I put them all in a list and there was one video though that stood out above them all and um this video I think at the time had like 15 million views it was was like there was no other video that was even close to doing that those kinds of views um within my Niche and so um it was this video by this guy uh redeemed Zoomer and uh he made this video called all Christian denominate ations explained in 12 minutes and one thing that I noticed about that video that for me really clicked was um if you read all of the comments you had Baptist you had lutherans you had Catholics you had all these different uh people from these different groups coming to this Channel or coming to this video and they were excited to see you know uh how redeem Zoomer was going to talk about their specific uh group yep and so um what I realized was a lot of the topics that I was creating at the time were so highly niched down that that I that the video didn't even have the chance to reach a larger audience and so wait hold up like this is gold guys like this right here is is literal gold because um when you had that uh that realization you're like oh there's only so many people that would really be hyper fixated in this super Niche video yeah um like how did you come to that conclusion was it just based on the content or the value that was there or were it's just like no only if you liked X Y or Z that you I think having a bit a little bit of knowledge about your Niche is is key so I kind of I kind of had a little bit of knowledge about what Catholics believe what Baptists believe what Lutheran believe you know I I had a not an in-depth knowledge but I had I had a little bit of a knowledge to understand hey if I release this video on uh let's say the the Rapture which I I recently did and it's because there's there's a core audience that do that did really want me to release that right but but but if I release a video on the topic of the Rapture for example um a lot of Catholics are not going to care about that topic because it's not a topic that uh a lot of them really talk about or believe or are interested in and so um and so I know it's going to apply to a smaller group of people versus if I release a similar video that is titled uh SEC second coming of Christ now that's a topic that every Christian believes in every Christian knows about the second coming of Christ so it has a broader appeal and um one of the things that has really helped me with this so uh we talk about you know Recon and research and we talk about uh niches that are just over oversaturated right well I actually think that oversaturated niches are the best niches for this reason that that's that's true because for example in the Christian Niche there are thousands of AI generated channels out there like there like basically somebody typed in a prompt and like created the most lazy content in the world Y and you know pushed out these channels and and they're everywhere and I was I remember being so frustrated and and annoyed at the time because I was like this AI channel has you know a couple of videos that that are you know have over a million views or over two million views like you know that's not fair I'm putting in tons of hours script writing learning how to write you know paying an editor and then this guy comes along or girl or whoever and uh you know creates this AI generated video but here's the thing if you look at that channel they only they usually only have these AI generated channels they usually only have a few videos uh on their channel that have uh really high views right and the rest of the videos have very very low views comp you know like like less than a thousand views versus over a million views on a few videos so what I learned was uh that was gold Y what I would do is I would find all these AI channels and I would write down uh the topics that were getting the really high views and once you do that like 50 times once you do that 30 times you start to see the trends and you start to see um like literally I don't know if I have it um it take it would take me too long to find it but I literally have like a paper and I literally just wrote out the different topics that I kept seeing and then I would put a little check mark next to it every time I saw a video that had really high views on a channel and and I would just keep marking those videos or those video topics and pretty soon I started seeing Oh second coming of Christ it's a trend like well let me let me let me dive into this because I think uh you hit on some really gold um and stuff that we we talk about a lot um when I when I'm mentoring Channel jumpstar but it's more about you know what are people responding to and you went out and you're saying okay we're going out there we're doing some Recon and research we see these videos that are really high performers and then it's on a channel that doesn't have a lot of high performers but there might be two or three videos and then you started to see the patterns and then you went a little bit more in depth in the comments to say okay here's the psychological Trigg trigger of why they're seeing this as valuable content and or it's a polarizing topic where they're having discussion and you know there's there's a lot of discussion from there so there's like a high engagement um but I think I think what most people do is that they they'd actually just watch the video instead of realize well what's the appeal because they there there's an appeal of a click because this one had more clicks than everything else and then two the content is is is well content is titled thumbnail first of course and then hook but I'm saying the content of the video uh is secondary right so like is there a topic that is appealed you know appealing and so on um you know that that's kind of how you approach it um and and then two it gives you validation of oh maybe it's not to redo these videos but there's a really high interest around these topics how do I make it mine and then two how do I do it from a a more of a broadreach audience instead of narrow you narrow you know having it very narrow um in in that Niche yeah so the way that I would look at it is um I would look at two sides so um YouTube is all about number one getting the click right that's that's half of the work is the the title and the thumbnail um topic like what topic are you doing what's the title what's the thumbnail then the second side of it is the actual video itself the the the the content of the video and so I look at those two in in a very separate way in this way um when when I'm trying to find the topic and the title in the thumbnail I'm looking into these AI generated Christian channels I'm looking into um you know the the top channels in my Niche uh because I don't want to guess which topic is going to land um I I want to look at what are people interested in and uh why are they interested in it it and and honestly I've I have created videos that uh with a title thumbnail topic that was not found uh on another Channel but it's just because I've I've researched I've done Recon and research so much and read the comments like you said that I'm just starting to understand why people are caring about what and so then I can actually at that point come out with a video that is you know a you know actually a little bit of a different topic than I've ever seen on YouTube because I have a high degree of confidence that this is what people are interested in because of all of the comments I've read and you just start to really just like in in internalize it after you've done it for so much let's let's talk about that so it it becomes okay you're familiar with who you're creating content for the value um that you're bringing across right so at the end of the day you're like you're saying okay um this is super valuable for them that they're going to take you know 15 20 30 minutes and watch this whole in depth um and and you're going to provide that value now the question would be is and and I want to I want to uh kind of show your channel here uh so everybody can uh there's a link in the description that you can find here um but I want to I want to talk about new content um so you have this um the map like entire life on the map like that's a a bucket why don't you kind of explain what that is the bucket and then I want to I want to focus in on um I I definitely want to focus in on um some advice that that I gave you and why because I I I really want people to understand this yeah this is something really important for Content creators uh when when when you're creating uh new experiments of where you could go but talk about this idea that you had about on the map yeah so um so basically um there when I created this idea so basically the idea is a Bible character and then you're seeing where that Bible character is going on a map and so we're talking about you know um you've all heard the story of Abraham you know you've all heard the story of Jesus but but you know and you hear about them going to the these different places and there's all these strange names you know like gizar and you know sheum and you know you just you read these in the Bible and you're like I have no idea what that even means or where that would even be located on a map you can't even usually look on a map today because a lot of those names have been changed um some of them have stayed the same but a lot of them have been changed and so so what it is is um it like that's the bucket idea but when it comes to which Bible character to pick it goes back to this Recon and it's like and so I actually had a list of Bible characters that people had done videos on that Bible character not not that Bible character on a map but they've done videos on that Bible character and uh and some of them have done videos on you know 20 different Bible Bible characters and there's certain Bible characters that would get more views than others so Abraham Jesus Moses like certain Bible characters uh if you do a video on them they're naturally going to have a wider appeal more people will be interested in them and so the idea was um there's I didn't really see anything on YouTube of a Bible character on a map but I know for myself and I know for many others that uh they would love to have that information they would love to see it um in Christian bookstores yep they sold maps of of like Bible characters but there's no videos like there was like no videos I couldn't find one video that is like seeing like an icon of Abraham move on a map to where he's going it's just you have to just only buy these books and they they sell great I I would imagine I remember I remember when you told me the idea like hey I'm going to kick around with this experimental bucket is what we call it right like I have an idea for new content and I haven't seen it online I go well you know Jonathan if you don't see it online then you know like there has to be out there right sure enough it wasn't like we we looked for it there was nothing out there yeah yeah but the first thing that I thought was holy cow this is brilliant um because because of this um before I I my my parents would take me to church and whatever and I would flip Through the Bible and in our Bible we actually had the maps in the back and that's where I would like spend most of my time when I wasn't even listening to the sermon I was just like kind of go through I I was a young kid right but I was like imagining okay wonder what it's like over there whatever whatever you know um and and so I spent a lot of time there and then I I always I always kind of referred to those too as like I'm wondering where this is at in relation and I realized Jesus did a lot of walking man there's a lot of walking going on um but the the the key to this though was you you you went deeper um and most people don't do this right which is Christian bookstores so you already know the audience is is leaning to go deeper into uh theology they're trying to go into the the scripture and so you know they're going to gravitate over to a Christian book store right and so you saw these things you had this amazing idea and then you implemented it and and and then two uh I I remember the conversation because you're like oh where do I start um and and I think this is the most important thing yeah so I I told you that um I was gonna start with the life the life the life of Abraham on a map yep and uh and you said don't don't do that well I think I said why in the world would you want to do that I think that was I think that was my yeah why in the world would you do that yeah um you got to start with the life of Jesus actually what you said you didn't even say that yet you said you got to start with the center and work your way out yep and then I and then we at the same time I think said Jesus that's right that's right because we both understood what we were talking about I I wantan I wanna I wanna I want to further clarify um when when you're creating a new bucket and you're going with new content you've never done before right you have the highest opportunity to get a new audience you just do it's it's like lateral of what you're kind of doing and and you're taking a step away just away a little bit wider um and so when when you're saying let's do Abraham it's not that Abraham would be bad in fact in all aspects Abraham is connected to Jews to Islam and to Christianity so it's like yeah Abraham's a great choice for that however that being said it's like like you can't dispute what your content's about your contents about Christianity start with the center of Christianity which is which is Jesus and then work your way out now the reason why is because I guarantee you someone that watches three videos down uh the road of this bucket guess what's gonna magically show up in suggestion yeah yeah is Jesus right it's like okay it all goes back to Jesus word that's at so it doesn't matter if it's Abraham or it's David or whoever it's just like that recommendation he says oh I I found that or they they they found they found Jesus I love the pun and I I I like it in real life too right and and they watch that map episode and then guess what's gonna be recommended oh let's go deeper into it like what would have been like for Paul like this is like really really fascinating stuff but um that video right now has a few views on it I mean it's like was released a a month ago and you have 2.6 million views on it um what did you what did you learn from this like what was the what was the it's 5 BC what did you learn from this this specific one yeah I think um I think just realizing that like the thing is like it hadn't been done before and it was a it was a it was something that people really wanted like I got a lot of comments that were saying you know I been looking for a video on this of a map of Jesus for such a long time and uh finally this popped up and and you know thank you thank you for making this video but you know one of the things like you you mentioned was um you so if you have a bucket right and content bucket is is you know this idea of you know blank Bible character Bible character's life on a map app you know it has a similar thumbnail it has a similar title similar topic yep um and so people are naturally going to be interested in those things I think when we think about content at least for me this this was my struggle and what you said to me really changed my mind on this it didn't change my mind it was just like illuminated um is like when we think of content often times you know we think about like shows like we think about like okay we're starting the show with this thing and then we're building up to this next uh show and we're building up to this next piece of content and with YouTube it's just not that's not the way YouTube works with YouTube it's like you you're starting with the thing that people are going to see later so you're starting with the end of their journey in a lot for for a lot of people and so if they find the Abraham video they're going to the highest likelihood that they're going to be interested in the Jesus video um you know is posting that video uh first because that's what's gonna pop up later on that makes sense and and and and I think the big thing for me it's like if if you're gonna do it let's have the highest probability for this new bucket to win yeah why wouldn't you want to do it with the center of all Christianity right so it's like okay let's let's tackle that um when I look at this and let me go back to this so you can see it but like you have 6,700 comments I mean there's a lot and then what I like to do is just really read through so you can see the value prop that that you're receiving here yeah um and and there's a lot of great um there's a lot of great opportunities to really even know what to do um like before abran I was I am now it's like interesting because it's like oh okay you know they're starting to tie Abraham into this even though that you know that's a specific scripture in the New Testament but it's like there's a lot of great opportunity to really understand the value and what I love is like hey I'm I'm not into Christianity but I'm I'm I'm digging into the historical background of this and so there's a lot of of people that find the value in what you're creating and then two it gives you kind of a format of what to do next because all it will be now is choose a different character and then you break it down you already know what's going to work based on the engagement of it yeah and really quick also another thing that was cool about this video was um I released it like maybe a month before um Chris Christmas and so as people are thinking about you know Christians are thinking about the birth of Christ they're celebrating um the video is about the Life of Christ so it naturally the video starts with the birth of Christ and so I think that I think that could have been a a one of the reasons that brought people into the video that that even that even made the growth even that much faster and um and and so you know thinking about kind of what's going on the world what's going on um you know on YouTube uh what what content's being created uh what what are people looking at and then realizing okay the best time to release this specific topic is going to be right now yeah yeah I think timing is is key and I think as people are a little bit more hyper aware of a specific topic or or theme uh you're gonna have a higher visibility but here's here's you have Evergreen too because like that's just an evergreen topic as well yeah and also another thing too uh one some of the comments I got with the um with the with with with the Abraham video uh was that uh so Abraham H the the story of Abraham happens at the very beginning of the of the Bible and so January is a time where people are starting to read the Bible again and they're starting from the very beginning and so I had comments from people saying um um oh this is perfect timing you know I I just started re reading this story um I've been going through it and then this video popped up so that's kind of cool too yeah I I love I love you know um you know the timing of things I think you know finding the right time and the right engagement then two the correlation in um so one of the things that that people need to do is um sometimes they don't really let them know of other videos they make and you got realize that it doesn't matter how many up videos that you upload every time that you upload a video it's for the new viewer like like they're they're discovering you for the nurse first time and even just saying a statement in it you know um my most you know viewed videos like the map of Jesus in entire life now the biggest request is Abraham so you kind of dive into it and they're like wait you have one of Jesus and then and then two is like or in it it's like oh here's where they cross cross path you know here's when when Abraham came to you know Jerusalem and you know that Porsche it's similar to what Jesus did at this time blah blah blah you know if you're interested in that you know it's in the description below whatever but it's just like you gotta like paint the picture too that there's more content or you know I've done this this who should I do next at the end of one you know getting them to feel like they're included into the community side of this that's where it's brilliant um and and so I would encourage you out of the three options that I gave you I probably encourage you the latter one is the person that got all the way to the end of the video say okay who do you want me to do next put it in the comments and you'll start seeing people say oh do so and so do David do you know Paul whatever and then they're rooting for it they're waiting for it like when are you gonna do that next you know and so they're not gonna forget about it you might forget about it they're not you know because they're like I found so much value into this um why don't you go in depth on that and so well cool um so now now I I would say um you really understand the viewer um you understand um what content would engage with viewers you also did Things New in in the the mix where you saw something that you thought oh this would be interested I I would love to ner out on that and then two there is validation because it happens over here in a Christian bookstore and and so you're now at a place where uh in just about a year like how many how many subscribers uh when because I know you at kind of a freakout moment when you signed up for channel jump start like how many how many uh views and subscribers did you get over the last year because you've been been mentoring you for a year now um so I I think I started Channel jump start with maybe 5,000 subscribers and so now I think I'm at 220,000 somewhere around there yep I love that I love that yeah I'm I'm um there's like a a DOT let me see if I can can download this because there there's a a graph that I thought was interesting let me see if I can just get that real quick because uh um because like right out of the gate you you didn't post a video you took some time um consuming like like how much um yeah yeah it's not it's not uh it's not downloading for some reason um it's it's okay though but it's just like um uh one of one of the one of the graphs in fact let me do it this this will be easier I know how to do it I I want to show everybody this I think this is a really really important graph to look at okay I just put it into the browser here um I I think a lot of people just um you know focus in on um you know content and they they they they might not um um give me one second they might be so into it that they they lose sight of what's really important um well that's not doing it it's for some reason let me see if I can go yeah yeah it's it's just cutting it off uh let me try again um sorry why why don't you take a second and I because I really want this graph so why don't you take a second and chat on um where you're at so you had five 5,000 subscribers is that what it was when you started Channel jumpstart yeah I had around 5,000 subscribers I had joined uh Channel jumpstart and um actually I have a photo I just uh I sent it to your team recently um and it's a picture of me getting the little Channel jump start box that you send yeah and uh and so it's like my I was like I I took a photo with the little like I think you had a something I don't remember what it was you know do good or whatever whatever it is and so I I took a picture of that of that um of that thing and it was uh February 3D that I took it so it's literally like a year ago that I started Channel jumpstart and what one of the things that I did was um and like if you if you're on YouTube trying to figure out how to grow on YouTube oftentimes what you do is you follow all of these different people in hopes that something that someone says sticks and you can grow and I can tell you that that really doesn't work because a lot of the gurus a lot of the YouTube gurus out there they um they all have different ideas of how to grow different strategies and so you kind of have to pick a lane like you kind of have to like if you're gonna go follow someone else then great follow that person but take take everything they say and then shut everyone else out and that's and that's what I realized once I hard to do that though that's that's really hard that's what I did that's what I did literally a year ago when I signed up uh for your thing and and I was basically like okay I'm literally going to shut out every other YouTube guru I'm going to just listen to the philosophy that uh that that uh that you teach yeah this is when you started so we I got the graft that you sent right so it's like that and then here's your first video and then you see this little teeny tiny bump you know and this this is what I want everyone to to realize it's like this is the most common uh you know Common graph see of of success um is never giving up it's just like every time you bump it's like release another video You're increasing your Baseline uh but believe it or not it's like this is the key right here um and I I remember vividly this this moment for you um because like like YouTube was trying to figure out your audience on June 1st um I don't know if you see my um my cursor you can see my cursor now but yeah right here it's June 1st they're trying to figure out your audience and then it it goes in a low period you're like okay maybe I'm not working and then you release a video and then YouTube tries to grow this audience right here and then that's that's the most fascinating area and it's like when you have a strategy is just wash rinse and repeat and it's just like grow that audience and so right there that's when it was interesting because you're now getting views on these older videos right here like literally the older videos um and and people were discovering it and this is where I want everyone to realize like I want YouTube to recommend your content and if you do it using the system that I teach in the sense of buckets like they can go deeper into it um and then two it's relational because like it you're going to have traffic on the homepage um or a subscription fee that's browse feature or suggested videos where it's on the side of the video or underneath the video depending on the device type but but what what YouTube will do is give a high probability of the person that's currently watching or they've watched your videos so like let's say they watched 30 minutes of your video and they go back tomorrow well guess what's going to magically appear on the homepage your other videos so it's like and it's G to only look at um ones that would would uh YouTube would view as the highest probability for them to click and to watch and consume so it's that relational data between them and one of the things that really matters or at least this is what worked for me and this is what I learned from you is um so this idea going back to this idea of buckets um understanding how the bucket system worked it took me a long time to figure it out like I I feel like I was very slow to figure it out but once I did and once it clicked I believe that that bucket system has been one of the reasons why my channel has grown so much is because once I once a video took off because it had a specific title and thumbnail if there was a previous video that was similar content for example like the actual way that my channel uh like when it first took off was I had released a video um I think it was uh the um the the UN the unforgivable sin the within the unforgivable sin video there was a a little an animation that I did where it was basically like video game themed yep so I was explaining this uh intense topic using a video game um that was actually like a sidebar like it that wasn't the main feature of the video so the thumbnail did not reflect it the title did not reflect it it was just you once you clicked on the video then you were able to see that and what I noticed was comments were coming in people were saying oh my gosh this video game style is so cool we love the video game I mean over and over and over and over again those were the comments so then what happened next was I released another video and I didn't I didn't take a hint actually from the first video and I did another video game animation but again it was embedded in the video right so you had to watch the video to figure it out well well what happened was when I released that second video uh it took off a little bit but then it's it's just started failing you know like and so I was like oh man why aren't people clicking on this video so I was like you know what I got nothing to lose let me change everything about this video I I went into YouTube editor I edited out the parts that were not the video game animation I switched the thumbnail for the video game for like a video game animation style and then I did it I did it uh blank explain as a video game so I so I I made that then what I noticed next was the video started skyrocketing but I didn't stop there because I understood the book The Bucket system what I did was I went back to the previous video and I reedited in YouTube editor that video so was mainly the the the video game animation I swapped the thumbnail out and then it was blank explained as a video game now both videos started skyrocketing and that was the moment that my channel started to take off yeah it it's it's it's it's beautiful and I I want to I want to break this down so that everybody understands the bucket system so the bucket system I think Jonathan clearly explained what that is like it it's the same type of content now what he thought uh before was oh it's just it's just maybe the title thumbnail opportunity no no no it's like literally your content yeah so your content is your title thumbnail but it's also the videos it's like it's like this is what the video is about and and then all we're going to do is replace what we're talking about so if it's video game you know Bible explained is a video game or someone's explain as a video game okay that that is what uh what the video is about and so if they go into it and it doesn't feel the same as the other you're missing you're missing the value it's like they want to see it in video game form you realize oh I needed to here there it worked kind of but it didn't but once you made the content what it was supposed to be that's when it popped off but then two then then you don't need to rec you don't need to think oh to make it better I need to you know add all this other stuff in no you need to to do it what what they engaged with it which is well what if it was explained like a video game and how does that actually look how can we make it better what worked what didn't work and and taking the data points uh which I teach really really in depth which is understanding what work what didn't work for your new video coming out and then what magically appears like if I want to see something explained as a video game YouTube's going to recommend it to me because I'm already engaging with it because it's like oh here's a series of videos not just one video and I think people says oh no I I do buckets all the time and when I read it and I say it it's like well it didn't feel like the same video uh you know it it didn't have the key words of the same video um in the content itself it didn't even go across the same way I don't see it being the same type of of video yeah yeah it's not just title and thumbnail it's the actual pce seeing of the video the the style the feel the and the topic like similar topics you know as well yeah I I love it I love it and so um now now you are extending your buckets your understanding um where it's at and I want to talk about um the conversation we had before um we started this which was I'm like you're going to need to post more you need to post longer let's talk about that it's like I know I I I've mentioned this before it's like hey now you're here and and you're like oh my editor's going to hate me yeah yeah you know but let's talk about it because like right now how often are you posting uh it's it's it's a mess so I'm I'm posting like every three weeks y pretty much yeah and and consistency is the key like like seriously it's it's so key now you're thinking oh I mean consistent monthly content that that was in your mind right you're like hey if I can get it out once a month doing pretty good no no I know I'm I know I'm failing in the consistency area yeah but but here's here's the thing is if you have momentum the key the the key to momentum is consistently adding to that momentum now I don't like mental health I I don't want to stress anybody out about this but what I what I told Jonathan like just hire another editor I mean you're making more money now just hire another editor they can do the other videos but you should be you your video should be longer it should be bit about 20 to 30 minutes because the explainer type videos they want to nerd out they want to go in depth so get good script writing get get that done but then also it's like if you can start um developing other buckets besides you know the map and the journey and it's other bucket uh you got to start testing those out because you already have multiple buckets that are working but you need to space them out you need to give them more time um if not you're going to be hitting the same Bucket over and over again which that's not a good thing too because then the the viewer can get exhausted on that yeah no I have so many other ideas and bucket ideas that I I I feel within like the Deep my deep heart that are it's they're gonna pop off yeah and it's because I I understand like okay if if somebody likes this type of video they're also going to be interested in this type of thing as well yeah just understanding that viewer that really helps but no consistency is huge it's it's hard to sit down and and and write a video and and that's another like bottleneck for me too is like I need to like I I need to GA gather enough discipline to sit down and be able to write out my script and then and then like you said you know maybe hire another Editor to help me well I I I do something all my students know this Jonathan you know this I do what we call workweek Analytics where I take my day and I document from waking up to going to sleep everything that I do uh in business personal everything um and I do that for a solid seven days and at the end of the seven days I take two highlighters um the first highlighter color everything that I hated to do I like to Mark those and then the second thing is um everything that wasted my time and I try to minimize that yeah and then I try to maximize uh where I'm efficient now one thing that I do is I don't know are you a morning person afternoon person or evening person morning person so that's that's when that's when I write the best yeah I I'm telling you um what what I learned is is my precious time um and and my team knows never to uh interrupt me during my optimal time and and so like I I delay everything and so I like to do wake up do my morning devotional exercise a little bit and then get right into uh the meat of the work I'm the most optimal there you know and the thing too like a big part of it is like I so believe in the message that I'm sharing like I I I personally believe that Jesus Christ came down to this earth he died on the cross for our sins and that if anybody believes in him that they will have eternal life yeah and so and so when I'm making this content it has a far far bigger purpose than just you know my own little life that I'm living and I know for many people on this call you know they may have uh you know content that they're passionate about and it and honestly like one of the reasons I got on and one of the reasons I wanted to do this was because I had received so much value from YouTube like channels that have helped me with my finances when I felt lost um I'm thinking of uh charisma on on on command yeah that video literally like revolutionized my life like I can see a clear change from before I watched that channel how I was and then after I watched that channel how I was and it was just it was a transformation so whatever your message is whatever your transformation you're providing for the viewer um that's that's you know that's what should drive you to to to make this content yeah I I can tell you um like uh for me being a Believer I I'm passionate about it um and I I love YouTube but for for me at the end of the day like it's all about passion where's your passion and then YouTube gives us the ability to share that passion and create communities around it right and you you found value in YouTube and what I love about you was I I receive so much I also need to give and so this is your opportunity to give and it's going to inspire somebody else to do the same thing they're going to see oh my gosh I totally transformed I can see someone coming on and says hey ears to hear like it changed me and now I want to do this as well I want to share and that's a feedback loop I can get behind like if at the end of the day it's like giving the world great content and confidence and the ability like I'm all for that I don't care if it's done through video games I don't care if it's done through um you know documentary type style if it's done through humor it's like the world deserves to have more light uh we're in some dark times and and light can be shared through YouTube that's why I love it so much I mean it's so great so great well um very good well let's uh I I know a lot of people are interested in um YouTube their Journey would you be open to taking some questions and and going from there sure okay before we do um I just want to let everybody know that we have vidsummit coming up October 7th through the 9th in Dallas Texas um I'm going to I'm going to play a quick video then we're going to come on get your questions ready because Jonathan and I are going to answer some questions [Music] he yeah [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh my gosh I I I know you have never been to Vin but I it's it's my jam man I I love it so much there's so many people that um I get to connect with it's our 12th year I I am super excited uh for this year uh we have some really crazy things that's going to happen so make sure you jump on grab your tickets it's going to go quick uh we actually sold out of eight hotels last year it was so hard to find a place so you don't want to you don't want to delay because we're really gonna be pushing it hard we got some big announcements um which which is great so um I definitely want to uh let everyone know um that the reason why I create vidsummit is what Jonathan said so Jonathan saw a talk at vidsummit with Roberto Blake that led him into creating better content it led him on the journey to um really do what he's done here and that's the main reason why I wanted a conference that where creators can share with other creators um it wasn't just because they're popular no they they get it they understand the business side they understand the economics they understand you know how it means to meet deadline um how it means to be consistent you know and really uh bring these people together and learn from each other and so uh we have an amazing culture if you've never heard about it go to vids.com you can get your tickets and then also get more detail but I'm telling you this year it's going to be completely off the charts uh like I I I'm really excited we finally finally got it to a place where I'm like oh my gosh vid summit's actually amazing which I always think that anyway but it's just like it gets better every year every year it gets better so um for those that uh are on the live stream if you've never um if you've never been a part of it um you know a vidsummit just put that in there and then those that have been to vidsummit put what your experience is like uh in the comments so uh love it okay so uh we're gonna use this as um here we go um we're going to just get uh there we go right here uh we're going to just actually go through uh some questions and if you have a question about vidum if you have a question about YouTube If you have a question for Jonathan put it in here but this one uh was because Jesus was asked how do you animate your video do you do it yourself or what do you do so I do not so when I first started on YouTube um I would edit all of my own videos and then they came to a point where I realized okay I'm if I'm really going to do this then if I invest all of my time into the skill of editing and animating only to later pay someone else to do it uh it wasn't worth it for me anyways to do that so I ended up actually spending money that I really didn't have at the time to produce these higher quality videos but I only did that after I learned about uh I after I took Daryl's uh after I got training from from Daryl because then I I felt confident or at least more confident that the videos that I were that I was going to put out we're actually gonna do well at some point so um yeah and I think too it's just um having having a way to look at YouTube I you know um my channel Jumpstart program I I try to I try to get my students to realize how I see YouTube and I don't see it like everybody else I I see it through a very specific lens and then once you start seeing it then it's almost like you could have that anticipation of oh this will work this will be a banger oh I can see where this would go you know um I love it love it great question there let me move on to the next one uh Gracie Hayes um what if I have too many ideas how do I decide what to do like when you have a list of 50 videos how do you pick the video that that you do like what you have all these ideas how do you how do you actually go through the process to pick what you should create yeah so for me it's uh what it what I shared was um you want to you want so for me it helps to at least start start with uh what is the highest likelihood uh that this video is going to do well and the way that you can know that is has that video idea already done well and so you look at okay yeah this this idea is doing well on all of these channels now how can I make it my own and the way that I kind of look at that is um you kind of have to go usually outside of your your own Niche and you study other niches and you study uh videos in the other niches that have done well that are not the same idea you know obviously they're talking about something totally different but you study the style you study the pacing you study the intro you study the writing and then that will kind of help you to to to fles out okay this is how I want to make this video yep uh let's move on to the next question Jonathan what are some examples of a bucket that you have and and how they differ from each other like how do you approach buckets and then you know because it's like you have content right um and give a couple examp give an example of what a bucket is again and then how do they differ from a content from uh you know from the content perspective yeah so um once you understand the viewer so you understand like for my channel it's you know Christians who are uh wanting to understand uh Bible better um let's just say and so um creating buckets that are going to help them uh achieve that so uh I have one bucket that is the video game idea and it's basically uh complicated theology explained as a video game so or or you know theology that for most people is difficult to understand explained as a video game so that is like the bucket idea of that one um I have another one that is um uh the maps so we have a Bible character on uh the entire life of a Bible character on a map Y and that's a bucket idea um I have a pro prophecy timelines so um you know second coming of Christ The Rapture the Antichrist all these uh prophetic ideas on a timeline and I try to make uh thumbnails look the same I try to uh make the title look similar and um and but but really it's the topic that people are coming for and the the way that it's being presented yeah so it's like a it's like the flow the flow should be the same so I I like to liken it to other things that people are are used to um so it could be like a television episode of a specific you know Big Bang Theory whatever like it it's literally the same thing what's different is the situation right so it's has the same flow has the same characters stuff is going there then you can change that out um for me I I like to look at buckets as okay let's keep the same flow let's keep the same similar similar title similar thumbnail um and then what we just change out is the the what right what is the what is the video about so if it's about uh video games uh Bible explain as of video games well okay that's great but what what what what part of the Bible are you explaining and so it should feel the same way as they go through what's different is the value that they're getting based on the topic um of of that content and then two on the you know map I mean that's an easy one because you're showing okay here's the entire life of Jesus on the map great here's entire life of Abraham on the map could great well then all you got to do is just replace the character of of who's on the map and it goes great from there so that that's a great question love it okay next one uh I'll answer this one build and fix with uh Mooney uh do you think one video one short a week is good to post um look I just want you to be consistent I I think um if I was starting a new channel I would be at least weekly um and and then two I would also try to post shorts shorts was complicated for years it's not complicated anymore U I would still kind of gauge is the value the same in a short as the long form because you don't want to create two different audiences for it um what you want to do is like learn from it in fact on the live stream last week uh we actually had uh Mary Allison where she does shorts um to validate before her bucket ideas uh for her long form and it is working and the shorts are very relational for her long form but yeah I would definitely do one video uh uh long form uh one one short form however that being said not everybody's situation is the same um I don't know how much time it takes to create content I I know Jonathan here might spend 30 hours or 40 hours he he might not be able to do it in the at the beginning scenario and so uh do what's best for you I would say the more consistent that you are then you can actually start growing an audience that would actually find consistent value uh and and that's how you grow really really fast on YouTube okay um uh next one um this is uh under the median once you have find a Content bucket do you track which videos fit in each bucket or how do you decide the bucket is full and then you need to create a new bucket I think I think I'll answer this one because I don't know if you understand what buckets is a bucket's Never full it's just never full uh you know it's like if you lose ideas that's when it's full it's like you can't can't go deeper into it um but I I want you to we use the word bucket because in marketing um it's used as content bucket it's like it's like very specific content that's the same is when you do that in marketing uh but let me let me kind of break down this so that you actually understand it buckets are your content strategy if you just do the same content over and over and over again it will work okay but then it will also exhaust people like oh I've already seen this or this isn't too exciting and they they lose excitement for it right and so if I was releasing uh content on on YouTube and I'm I'm following the the the idea of that previous question one video a week I would need to have four or five buckets and the reason why is because if you just do it the same every week is the same I might get a lot of views temporarily in the beginning but over time you know you're just hitting that same vein over and over and over again and there are people on this call that I know have done that and now are broadening it out and say oh my gosh you get so many views because I give this time to breathe and then also I inject other type of content so four or five buckets is what I generally want every Creator to have now that being said it might start with one and then you need to experiment and that's what Jonathan was able to do is he was able to experiment it works now with two now you need to experiment for three and when you you have it you have three solid buckets that's actually going to lift the channel because once uh one video takes off in the bucket it's going to have that recommendation uh uh content within that bucket and then it's also going to recommend your other content too because YouTube does doesn't always just go down the rabbit hole it's going to recommend similar content and that's that similar content in similar buckets so man we're nerding out here Jonathan that was a you know there there you go that's great all right this is for you Daryl how do I become your student how did you become my student Jonathan so um yeah so I found your book that's that was that was how I started it was funny I was actually uh I was following another YouTube guru and they asked that guy uh you know how did you or is there a book that I could read that would help me and he said Daryl Eve's book read it like 10 times and so I got the book um I read the book and um I started to try to implement a lot of the strategies but um Channel jump is uh the like uh training that basically goes a lot deeper and for me I needed that uh for me like I needed to have uh a something that I was a part of weekly where um I was able to ask questions to Daryl I was able to uh talk with the with the team and um and really just hyperfocus on the channel and um and so that's what really helped me yeah yeah if if you guys are interested we're starting another cohort here in a few weeks it's in the description you can talk to jaon um but like for me um I didn't want to do a a course I want to create a Comm commun and and and then two it's more um the strategy so when I when I look at channel jumpstar it's more of a strategy and a community of this is how we approach content this is how we approach content Creation in the business side and so um yeah uh let me go to uh let me hit a couple more real quick it seems that um I have two distinct types of audiences those who enjoy learning while you sleep um videos and uh prefer well structured Spanish lessons since both formats uh uh what do I focus in on okay I can tell you here um I learn why I sleep I have headphones on and I do audiobooks and my retention is pretty crazy I I there's something about that I don't know um uh what what I would do is like it's two it's like two separate audiences I'm not going deep on it so I really really long videos on learning why I sleep and so I would have that on one channel and then the other channel will be the other one because if you have two different audiences those that want to go deeper on that um they're they're not they're not getting that because they're like oh I'm interested in this and not the other so I'd separate it out and believe it or not um I'm a huge fan of multiple channels let me just show you my background you can see I'm a fan of multiple channels I like the gold play buttons but the reason why is because it can feed each other if it's within that vein it's like hey the audience do like these longer form videos but they also like these other videos but it's the timing of it and the intent the intent of what value you're bringing that's when you need to separate it out so love that okay um let me go back to another question here uh John okay how do you uh how do you know if it's nice is uh it's too narrow or low reach how do you know if a niche I think is what he meant to say is too narrow or low reach what would you say on that I think it's all about goals so what is your goal are you trying to uh reach a niche audience because you have a business that you're trying to to to to grow um you know like what is the goal so when I started with Daryl we always start with goals Y and so I I had tried different uh different uh different Niche different niches within the Christian space um and what I realized when I sat down and wrote my goals was my goal is actually to get this message to as many people as humanly possible which means I'm actually my goal is to get as many millions of views as I possibly can and so once I realized that that was the goal then I had to look at what like okay so what content is resonating with millions of people and that's how you can kind of learn is like research you you you study it yeah I I 100% say it's not all about how many views you get is just getting the right type of view and so the right type of view would come off of what you just said which is goals so if your goal is to sell something that's specialized for only a group of people then you know I I would rather have 10 10 of the right people watching it and if I can get you know half of them to buy then my goal is achieved right I have people that are making millions and millions and millions of dollars off of minimal views and and the minimal views is just the right type of viewer and YouTube does an amazing job finding the right type of viewer when they're looking for very specialized Niche content so it's not about the the amount of views it's just getting the right views and then two on on this one John if you if you uh watch this replay when it comes out Jonathan said he went there and realized oh I was so hyper fixated on my audience that I was only appealing to this audience and I needed to broaden out because my goal was to go to more people people IE I need to go a little bit you know out and relate to more people in the specific Niche and that led to the ideas that he saw to implement on his channel and it was able to go from there so that that's that's a great way that's a good question um next is uh coming from zfd films we just want to add the chosen as the path of Jesus videos were incredible help me learn uh even through hard times thank you so much like uh my favorite gold play button honestly I'm not gonna lie is right behind that TV Guide uh you know uh magazine behind that that gold play button is the chosen uh it's a TV show that I uh uh we started eight years ago I'm executive producer co-founder um just coming up in the fifth season and Fifth Season I'm really excited for because we're it's basically the stories that everyone knows um which is the the last week of Jesus is um going through his last week got season five season six is going to be coming up and that'll be the crucifixion and then season 7 is the resurrection so it's going to be so good so good so I just I just love I just love content it's so good okay um uh next question is there an audio version of the book yes I'm instab buying it do it now go get it um and I want everybody to know um like this this book is still relevant it's like uh it is so good um it's more going from the psychology of the viewer like I I I like to give history of YouTube history of the algorithm history of their intent and then and then we uh part two is the case studies um and I I like when people actually apply it and then the part three is the YouTube formula so uh go grab that you can grab it on Audible um and and or you know go to Amazon and you can get the the Kindle book or whatever you need to um okay we are at a time uh Jonathan I want to thank you so much for your willingness to come on and to share something um and I I do want you to give one last bit of advice there are people frustrated right now that that they're not getting it or they've listened to all the training they've gone through the book what advice would you give them around content creation um yeah yeah uh so what I would do one one of the pieces of advice is like if you understand that like we we we we mentioned this at the very start is there's this little voice in your head that's telling you to quit there's this little voice in your head that's telling you it's not worth it but that little voice is also in everyone else's head too so I would encourage you to continue creating the content continue uh pushing and and creating the content and then when you do create a piece of content um one of the things that I always ask myself even when I was getting hardly any views was if I were to make this like what if I created this video and I knew that a million people were going to see this video and so I would put that much effort in as if a million people were going to see this piece of content and sometimes it would flop but what's crazy is even videos that had flopped prior the ones that I actually put High effort into those videos now today have hundreds of thousands of views so there may there may be a video that you create today that doesn't see the light of day for I think that video literally took nine months before it took off and and so you might be you might doing that you might be putting in like 80 hours of work into one video and not seeing the results you know or the fruit of all the work that you put in but keep creating content create keep following Daryl's advice and um yeah my best advice is like do whatever do whatever Daryl says like read his book and no but when it when it comes to YouTube it it's true and what what I would say is create for the one uh you got to be pass about something create for the wand uh but be appealing that it's that new viewer coming in if the new viewer is seeing your first video for the first time um how much value can you bring to it what I do love is what you said is like you never know that that video could take off and it took nine months sometimes YouTube's like literally figuring out the audience um and that audience is so engaged um and once you have an audience it's going to recommend your older content if it's the same audience so create create videos for people um not true yourself um I think for yourself you have that passion as a Creator But realize if you expect more than one view then you have to really have that viewer in mind yeah if you're only making for yourself that's fine and it still could impact and it still could get go out there but the probability of that going out for everyone is not going to be there you have to look at from a broad uphill like how do I actually do this and then create that uh creation that video with the intent that someone's going to need to enjoy it someone's going to need to find Value now you might say oh I would find Value here or I disconnect there that's that's what it means to be a good content creator right uh but you need to be more intentional especially here on YouTube guys thank you so much Jonathan thank you so much appreciate you all coming on and uh don't forget uh all the stuff's in the description the book vidsummit H also if you want to be a part of Channel jumpstart become my student uh it's all there so thank you so much Jonathan thank you so much appreciate you coming on and sharing your wisdom thanks everyone we'll see you on the next video