[00:02] X-Men into MCU history. Let me cook. Welcome back to New Rockstars. I'm Eric Boss. And with the revelation of Gan Gray in Spider-Man: Brand New Day as a background of the MCU along with other X-Men characters announced at T23,
[00:15] Christopher Abbott as Professor Charles Xavier, Kit Connor as Cyclops, Scott Summers, Indie Navaretti as Rogue, Samara Weaving as Emma Frost, Maya Boyd as Aurora Monroe Storm, and Adam Driver as Mr. Sinister Nathaniel Milbury and at
[00:28] least one or two more to come. According to Marvel Studios casting director Sarah biggest question I've had about Marvel Studios mutant plan. Yes, the studio is now saying that all of these mutants are homegrown in the 616 universe. the same
[00:43] continuity of the 616 Infinity Saga along with the history of Steve Rogers, the Sigovia Accords, the attack by Thanos and the 5-year blip period, Doctor Strange's memory wipe spell, the emergence of Teeut in the Indian Ocean,
[00:56] and that one time Konchu made some crazy happen in the sky. It makes sense Marvel Studios isn't going to completely reboot this entire universe after Secret like the lineage of Tchala, the current Spider-Man they have that's making them
[01:09] hopefully for Anthony Mackey, the current Captain America, not to mention erase everything he went through. So, in this video, I'm going to plug all of still very much intact history of the MCU to explain how some of these older
[01:24] Wolverine, and Apocalypse can fit into the world as we know it. And one really cool way the 2028 X-Men movie could open that could easily tie the Mutant Saga into the Infinity Saga. By the way, the shirt I'm wearing is this Magneto Omega
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[01:50] our Iron Doom shirt to the Burj Khalifa. Whoa, you're living large. Okay, before revisionism, let's first talk about who else is really missing from this X-Men lineup and fill out our X-Men choose your fighter grid. After the seven
[02:04] confirmed cast members for 2028's X-Men were announced at D23, some folks looked back at our colleague Brandon Davis's interview at San Diego Comic-Con in July Sarah Finn. Brandon asked her what it was like casting the original six
[02:16] Avengers versus the new group she was casting now, referring of course to the occasionally if we're doing something where we might be casting say eight runs at once, it's um it's quite challenging
[02:29] and um and rigorous. >> Yeah, you heard her. Eight. Now, at this point, Satie Sink was already cast as Gan Gray for Spider-Man: Brand New Day, of the decisions that were being made the week in mid July 2026. Satie may
[02:44] tests, but really the decision was already made when it comes to her. So, I assume it was like 8 plus satis. It's also not clear if Finn considers Aid to include the villain of 2028's X-Men, Adam Driver, playing Mr. Sinister. So,
[02:57] between one and three additional mutants that are still in the process of being cast for the film. While Kaylee Spy was reported to be in talks to play Rogue before Andy Naetti was cast, Night Edge Media reported Friday that they heard
[03:09] speaking in Marvel Studios about playing another role, which some believed to be Kitty Pride, aka Shadowcat. Charles Melton was rumored to be in the running was reported that Melton would be taking a role as Kakashi Hatake in Destinator
[03:24] doesn't mean that he can't also play Beast in the MCU. But will this X-Men movie already introduce new actors as Wolverine or Magneto? I find it that they knew fans were expecting Magneto when Adam Driver was announced
[03:37] as the villain Nathaniel Milbury aka Sinister by having Adam Driver tease the crowd this way. So, I'm very excited to be playing the role of Magneto.
[03:51] still plan to introduce Magneto as part of this lineup played by just a different actor announced sometime later? For now, please pay no attention to last week's aggregator that Lee Pace, Henry Caval, and Matt Smith
[04:03] these are doing this really annoying thing lately of tagging Deadline and the professional trades never actually reported what these aggregators were you see these, double check the original source and community note them to hell.
[04:17] these bullshitters. But I do think when it comes to Magneto, they are going to three actors are. And they're going to go with a really big name, maybe an A-listister like Adam Driver whenever they do announce their Magneto. So, I
[04:29] three to be announced are going to include a kitty pride, a beast, and a Magneto. Maybe a Bobby Drake somewhere in that mix, maybe a Warren Worthington somewhere in that mix. We'll see. So, Jean Gay's introduction in Spider-Man:
[04:42] without any particular trigger event that was referenced. Brand New Day kind of arose organically and naturally in this universe, born the way they were. That is in accordance with how Stan Lee and Jack Kirby introduced the
[04:55] mutants in the 1960s. Lee and Kirby were just kind of creatively spent at having for all of their characters and just wanted a new status to say that some powers and that those powers begin to manifest when they come of age and
[05:08] reached puberty. That's how we got the X-Men, a simple Xgene. So for this film universe, the simplest route really could just be that humanity has reached species needs to evolve to adapt to this more fantastical environment and that
[05:21] 0.5% of the population was just born with a dormant X gene that has begun to manifest naturally in certain people. While in the comics and in the Fox X-Men film continuity and in the animated X-Men '90s continuity, mutants began to
[05:34] emerge on a wide scale in the 1960s, the nuclear age children of the atom they that, there were some mutants that predated the 20th century. In Sabahur, aka Apocalypse emerged in ancient Egypt, as we saw in this recent season of X-Men
[05:47] 97, where the intervention of the celestial Asan the Searcher elevated continuities imply that Amal Farooq was born in the 16th century in Egypt before gaining the status of the shadow king. Aazil has been implied to have origins
[06:00] our boy James Logan Howlet was born in the 1880s in Canada's Northwest Territories around Alberta. But with Gan Gray emerging now along with her sister Sarah Gray, Marvel Studios is telling us
[06:12] of mutant emergence to be a bit later around 60 to 70 years later because it is currently 2028 in the MCU timeline. So in order for this all to work and maintain Magneto's origin story with World War II, we do need to accept the
[06:26] slower. Neyar indicated this was true forever. >> I was a mutant. I could swim in the sky and age slower. >> Now, we could also further apply this
[06:39] don't think that's going to be the case. Storm can just fly because she can because he can manipulate Earth's magnetic fields around himself. Rogue Danver's powers and abilities. Will we ever see Indie Navarretti with Brie
[06:54] Larson sharing a scene like this? I don't know. If Indie drains someone's powers, I would rather it be Gaia. So, let's start with Charles Xavier in the Charles, played by 40-year-old Christopher Abbott, bald and in a
[07:07] wheelchair, is living in his mansion in Westchester, and that is where Gan Gray Spider-Man: Brand New Day. I did see what looks like a chimney or some kind right side of screen and all those trees. But we're saying that this
[07:19] version of Charles Xavier lived through the same blip period, the threats of Hydra, the Chitauri invasion, and all the other Avengers level threats as all other characters in this universe have. that this guy was watching Tony Stark
[07:31] conference on TV. That this guy just sat on the sidelines and watched the Avengers go at each other on an airport tarmac in Germany. I'm going to assume in New York City like he is in the comics. And that again, he's just aging
[07:44] be two to two and a half times slower. Hey, actually, maybe he was that kid in the hydra operative. >> Go get him. I can swim. >> Thanks to Bessie for sponsoring today's video. I've had family in town, and that
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[09:13] applies to Magneto, a young Eric Lyncher, or Max Eisenhart as he was known, was a Jewish boy born in Germany in 1928. World War II of course still Germany in this history had this side project with Johan Schmidt aka Red Skull
[09:27] have seen Young Magneto in the events of Captain America the First Avenger, he was sent to Ashvitz in Poland. Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes, and the Highland Western Front of the war, not the Eastern Front. But after surviving
[09:39] Ashvitz, Max aka Eric Lyncher would meet Charles Xavier in the early 1960s, and there. But we cannot move on from World War II in the MCU history without also Logan Howlet who served in that war. What's interesting about potential
[09:54] Wolverine sightings in the MCU is in Loki season 1 episode 4, there was a referring to locations in the sacred timeline that mentioned Alberta, Canada. That could refer to James Howlet's past
[10:06] in Canada as a date of importance to the TVA. Why would they consider that Wolverine, we know that the TVA then recognized Wolverine as the anchor being of another timeline or universe, Earth 10005. Maybe they're keeping their eyes
[10:18] on the Wolverine of the sacred timeline within Earth 616. But there are two ways to consider Wolverine's snaked origin story in the 616 history. One could be II, the Weapons Plus program was trying to replicate the super soldier program
[10:32] soldiers like we learned that they did with Isaiah Bradley. And this would have included this Canadian regenerative mutant named James Howlett grafting Captain America: Brave New World, Marvel execs indicated that the corpse of
[10:46] Tiiamat being made of adamantium was the quote unquote birthplace of adamantium literally never existed before that emergence, that would mean Wolverine after the events of Eternals. I choose to believe that there were other sources
[11:00] of adamantium as far back as the 1940s. man-made adamantium created accidentally as an alloy of vibranium and steel and that could have given us the Wolverine headline and She-Hulk Man with metal claws fights in barbar. The fact that
[11:13] Milbury, Mr. Sinister, tells us that they're probably going to trace his history back to 1880s England. It's really the empowerment Nathaniel gets from Apocalypse that makes him immune to aging and disease. I'm just saying if
[11:25] he's a guy old enough to use the alias like Nathaniel Milbury, it implies that And the only way he could do that is if there's an apocalypse in this universe. really important for the MCU to establish mutant origins as far back as
[11:38] season 2. We're going to need to see how the Celestials, in addition to Mesopotamia, created a genetic offshoot of mutant kind in ancient Egypt. This is why I think we need to see Maya Boyd Storm's youth as a daughter of Kenyan
[11:52] royalty growing up in Cairo like she does in the comics. I think we need to name Insabanur. And if it isn't in the 2028 X-Men film, then hopefully Ryan Cougler could explore this in Black
[12:05] think it's interesting that they cast Samara Weaving as a slightly older Emma that she's already going to have her tragic backstory with the Massachusetts rather than it being timetraveling sentinels who killed all of her
[12:20] events of the past decades blip that disrupted those kids? I think the hardest thing for fans to really fathom is even if the X-Men were not yet formally organized in the past decade of MCU history, say it was just Charles and
[12:32] Eric debating constantly over games of chess. Where were these guys during the Battle of Earth in Avengers Endgame? Well, here's my pitch for how the 2028 flashback later in the movie or just
[12:44] make in the film. What if Charles did help the Avengers in the Battle of battle in that movie. It was a massive battle, folks. The stuff that we did see representative vignettes of things that
[12:58] have been left on the cutting room floor. In the same way that several MCU titles after 2012 have gone back to revisit the battle of New York to show us other characters origin stories like Adrien Tombs in the opening scene of
[13:11] the time heist in Endgame, Kate Bishop and Hawkeye. It's really not that hard things were happening during the Battle of Earth in Endgame. We already began to the moments they undusted from the blip with Monica Rambo and Yolena Bova. We
[13:27] Fury organized the harvest with scrolls like Gravik to recover Avenger DNA from like the idea that Charles Xavier from the window of his mansion in Westchester County saw Thanos's ship on the horizon
[13:40] away and then he might have looked over across the chessboard to his friend Eric and said, "To me, my friend." And then those two flew over there and kicked were on the other side of a pile of rubble trying to get the nano gauntlet
[13:53] to the quantum tunnel. I mean, just establish that Charles Xavier and Eric Earth. And you can either show us that fight or talk about it. But either way, Saga is going to connect with the Infinity Saga. And we can look back at
[14:06] the moment when Wong said this. >> Is that everyone? Like you wanted more >> and we would know we did have more. Comment down below with your thoughts on of our InR underground subscribers, Rodrik Hair, for supporting us at the
[14:20] the InR underground audio feed, subscribers can listen to our Monday mailbag podcast where we answer your questions. Here's an excerpt of me episode. So, I can understand the fatigue, but I would just say that I
[14:34] think a lot of people are incapable having of having an abundance mindset that we can have multiple things. In all of these years where we still had what they consider sloppy Marvel movies, we can still have other great movies that
[14:46] benefit from those Marvel movies still coming out. Like those sloppy Marvel movies still bring a lot of revenue to these movie theaters and these production companies and these actors so that they can get more visibility and
[14:58] that they can get more visibility and then make really cool things. Like Ryan Cougler was able to make sinners because Marvel Studios gave him a chance with Cougler was able to go to Warner Brothers and say, "No, I want full
[15:11] authorship of this movie so that you don't own it so that I own it and that I can re-release it in the future and make all the money from it." Um, now Ryan know if he needed Marvel Studios, but Marvel Studios gave him the platform and
[15:25] the visibility to share his talents with the world. And so I think having a machine like Marvel is only a net good for this industry that we all love and benefit from. You can get the full episode and you can join this exclusive
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