[00:02] all sorts of shadow forums and platforms, are exclusively about crime, some kind of databases, and illegal substances.  If you go into this so-called underground, you will be very surprised, because gigantic volumes of
[00:17] absolutely ordinary household and civilian goods are circulating there.  Sneakers, clothes, electronics, perfume, absolutely anything.  I'll throw you an intrigue right away.  Today I'll tell you whether it's realistic for an ordinary person to build a business out of this, buying from
[00:32] shady marketplaces and reselling it all, say, on Avito or other marketplaces.  And be sure to watch the video to the end, because at the end I'll analyze one of the most stupid and banal scams, which is still causing
[00:47] mom-and-pop businessmen to lose hundreds of thousands of rubles trying to buy equipment for pennies.  In this video, I'll give you some information on how to avoid becoming a sucker in this system, because you get ripped off all the time.  So, let's start by
[01:02] looking at where the products on underground forums and platforms actually come from.  I'll name them randomly so as not to make any kind of advertisement.  Let's say there will be a forum for Shadow Hub, Black Market, Deepspace and Ghost Web. This is a random name, by the way.
[01:17] Each of these forums has huge sections under the names.  It's either a flea market, or a shadow market, or something similar to what the vertical is called.  Sometimes the admins of these sites themselves get confused with navigation.  To find a really good product, you have to sit
[01:32] and pick through the branches for hours.  This is not Wiberies, where you type in the name, find it, and actually buy it.  Here you need attentiveness and the ability to filter tons of garbage. I would divide all the goods that are circulating there into
[01:47] three huge categories.  The first are things that were obtained, let's say, not entirely legally.  I'm not talking about someone stealing a grandmother's handbag somewhere on the street and selling it.  There is an entire industry that deals with either
[02:03] removing branded items from European or American outlets.  These are shoplifters, by the way.  We already made a video about this .  They, by the way, work on order and what goes through them, by the way, is trifles compared to what is
[02:17] called carding or carding.  What's the point?   A left-hand credit card is taken and a bunch of liquid goods are purchased with it.  These are quadcopters, by the way, current trends, various watches, cosmetics, perfumes, and so on.  Next, this product goes to a drop-off point of
[02:32] some front man in Poland or Germany, and from there it is sent here by various routes.  By the way, at the end of the video there will be a link to such training for a percentage, so follow along. And then this product, which essentially
[02:46] has a purely legal origin, well, it was in fact bought in an official store simply with someone else's card, is sold on shadow forums.  You've definitely heard those tales that you can buy everything on the darknet for 30-40% of the real price.  This,
[03:02] for 30-40% of the real price.  This, by the way, is a total scam.  Forget about it.  These are fairy tales for schoolchildren.  What costs 100,000 rubles in the official store .  There you can find, well, at best for 50, for 60,000.  Nobody will
[03:16] give you a liquid product for next to nothing.  And always keep in mind that you pay for delivery through any shady transport companies yourself, and that adds another percentage to the price.  As a result, your profit is, well, 40 percent at
[03:31] best.  Yes, this is also profitable, but not so sweet.  On shadow forums, absolutely everything is done through a script.  And there are a lot of scams in it now.  Therefore, to avoid being scammed, use trusted exchangers like DexFor.  One of
[03:47] them.  Minimal fees: exchange major currencies and importantly, without QYC registration.  The link will be in the description. I use this exchanger myself.  The second huge category of goods is counterfeit goods.  A brutal mass counterfeit.
[04:02] These are things that were not stolen from anywhere. They are simply produced in some underground workshops, but under famous brands, that is, Gucci, blah-blah-blah, sneakers, luxury clothing, perfumes and, [ __ ] hell, even cigarettes.  This product is essentially of
[04:17] normal quality.  So it looks like the original, it smells like the original, but it was made by Uncle Liao on the third shift in a secret factory.  And the third category is the so-called gray prohibited goods.  This is something that an ordinary person
[04:31] prohibited goods.  This is something that an ordinary person often some specific drugs, harsh neurotropics for the brain that are sold only by prescription, or even harsher predens for bodybuilders
[04:46] who have not passed certification.  In general, there are a lot of options.  Let's talk about quality and real-life experiences with sellers.  Take the Black Market website for example.  I'm changing the name, but you,
[04:59] vertical, should more or less understand what forum I'm talking about.  At one time, there was a fairly large supplier of disposable electronic cigarettes located there.  And on top of that, there are also e-liquids for vaping. His nickname was Sok Ninja, and the guy sold only high-quality
[05:13] replicas.  There was no original there at all. But the problem was that his minimum order started from ten boxes.  And this, mind you, is a huge deal in terms of liquids and similar crap. You needed to give him 200k rubles.
[05:29] minimum, and you sit there, sending this money via crypto and have no idea what you'll get: a real product, not some box of bricks or some e-juice that tastes like dick.  But that's not the point.  I know people who worked with him, and the
[05:44] quality of the product was not the most consistent.  That is, one batch arrived quite normally, and the next one is already leaking.  The batteries died in one day and so on.  Selling this in your store is simply ruining your
[05:57] reputation.  But the most interesting thing was reading the comments in his thread.  People wrote very neutrally.  Do you know why? Because no one wants to admit that they threw 200 grand into, well, absolute crap and became a sucker.  Everyone
[06:12] wrote something neutral, that he received the goods, the goods are at the base, we will work.  This taught me one of the most important rules of the dark forums. You need to be able to read between the lines.  If the reviews aren't wildly positive or show photos of
[06:27] successful sales, then the product is mediocre or even completely worthless.  And the buyer is simply trying to sell it and simply does not want to spoil the relationship with the supplier in the event of a return.  And many people probably think it's awesome.  Now I'll find
[06:42] a supplier on a forum like this, open a store on VB and start making money in bulk.  Sneakers for half price, perfume for pennies.  And listen very carefully.  I
[06:54] have analyzed this topic from top to bottom. Building a sustainable business based on supplies from the shadow market is a utopia. And the main reason is not even the law, but reliability.  A shadow supplier can never guarantee you stability.
[07:09] Today, let's say, his supply chain is working and everything is okay.  And tomorrow the drop was accepted at customs, the day after tomorrow the hole in the online store was closed and that's it, and you already have a promoted card on Ozon, and orders are flying in non-stop.  Customers
[07:24] will wait for the goods.  So what are you going to do?  You're starting to miss deadlines, get fined by the marketplace, and your rating is falling.  Well, essentially to zero.  and your business just collapses in a week. Such goods are only suitable for
[07:39] spontaneous sales.  These could be random tourist zones in underground passages or at some fairs. A person arrived at some place to which he will most likely not return.  He bought a replica of perfume or
[07:53] some headphones from you, went back to Pyzran and will never see you again. He has no one to complain to if the earphone stops connecting after 3 days.  for this format.  It works perfectly.  This is true.  But let's be
[08:08] honest, there are real gems on the dark forums too .  Of course, if you know what you're looking for.  For example, huge volumes of illegal alcohol and energy products circulate there without excise duties.  If you have your own private bar or you
[08:24] organize large meetings or parties, you can find trusted people who have been driving trucks with all this stuff for years. There are a couple of sellers on one of the shadow forums who have been working since 2018, and they have never had any problems.
[08:40] If you buy cognac or whiskey from them , then you know for sure that none of your clients will end up in intensive care.  This is pure alcohol, just past the state cash register and excise taxes.  But be prepared for logistics and delivery, because that's a
[08:55] whole other hell.  Just think, how are you going to transport a ton of booze through transport companies?  It's always stressful.  There is always a risk that your cargo will be opened and they will ask you some uncomfortable questions.  There is also a funny segment,
[09:11] which is cheap consumables, such as lighters, condoms, batteries, and so on.  All of this is sold in huge boxes the size of a refrigerator.  And on the outside, everything looks like the real original.  Packaging, holograms, fonts, everything is almost perfect.  But
[09:27] if you start using it, you understand why it costs three times less.  Your battery will die not in a month, but in 3 days.  The lighter will break after the twentieth click.  What about condoms?  Well, let's put it this way, if you don't
[09:42] want to become a happy dad, then it's better not to use them.  This is a product made from cheap derivatives.  It can only be sold in places where customers won't come and complain about you.  In general, the audience on different forums
[09:57] varies greatly.  One forum, seemingly popular and authoritative, is filled with schoolchildren and students looking for ways to make easy money.  There are very serious people on other forums.  This is no joke.  And an interesting, distinctive
[10:11] feature is that there are no salespeople as such there.  Essentially, the people sitting there are the miners.  Their main goal is to either hack the database or find a hole in the store's loyalty system, drain points, and so on.  Communication there is absolutely always
[10:26] very specific.  You can simply get sent away for asking stupid questions.  Therefore, if you want to take something from there , you need to sit there for a month and read the information, understanding the slang.  And another interesting trend.  Very often there
[10:40] are people who find some kind of bug or vulnerability.  Let's take an example.  Some guy found a hole in the marketplace.  He can order a million bucks' worth of equipment from there right now .  The system will process all orders, but
[10:54] it has neither an interface nor any drop centers that will accept these goods abroad.  There are no channels for transporting goods through customs, nothing.  And he just comes to the forum and writes that he will sell the circuit for 10 bitcoins.  And she sits and waits for
[11:08] someone to buy her.  It's a whole world where ideas are essentially worthless without logistics and the right approach.  And here we smoothly come to what I said at the very beginning, the sweetest part, the thing that
[11:21] very beginning, the sweetest part, the thing that burns 99% of newcomers who come to the Darknet for free.  Equipment, smartphones, laptops, hair dryers and more for a lower percentage.  About once a month, a new
[11:36] account with a nice avatar appears on any major forum.  They create a gorgeous theme design and write that they have direct access to customs confiscation or that he has a brilliant scheme to get into Biwa from official stores.  And he offers new iPhones
[11:51] stores.  And he offers new iPhones or MacBooks for 30-40% of the actual price.   A laptop or phone that cost 200,000 is now selling for 7,080. And just so you understand, it's not just text, it's a bunch of photos, and the photos
[12:06] will have the date and everything, just as it should be.  so that no one starts asking questions.  And people just start going crazy.  Their eyes light up with greed.  They are already counting the crispy money in their hands. And how will they sell these
[12:21] laptops on Avito?  They throw money at him, collect a pool of people, and there the minuses can reach several million rubles.  What happens after a couple of days?  After a couple of days, the person simply disappears, deletes their
[12:37] Telegram account, and no longer visits the forum.  Remember one ironclad rule: highly liquid equipment is very rarely sold at huge discounts.  Not on the darknet, not in secret Telegram channels, nowhere.  Apple technology,
[12:53] Dysons, video cards - they're practically currency.  No normal scammer, carder, or thief would bother creating threads on forums, communicating with unreasonable buyers, and then sending them one by one in order to
[13:08] sell the item for 30% of the price.  This simply has no economic logic.  If someone offers you a popular piece of equipment at 70% below market price,
[13:20] that is, for 30%, it’s a 100% blatant scam.  You will be screwed and you will not be able to prove anything to anyone .  But I repeat that I wrote an article about how and where to find such equipment with clear reviews.  And most importantly, work through a
[13:36] guarantor.  This is the basis of security.  Always work through the forum guarantor.  This is a real base.  The article will be in our cart under the hashtag Navigator.  One more piece of advice. If you do decide to buy something, never conduct business via private
[13:52] message on a forum.  The private messages there always work completely incorrectly, and they are only needed to confirm a personal profile on the forum.  All communication most often takes place through Telegram, and a normal seller is always in touch.  He is
[14:06] more customer-oriented than managers at some car dealerships.  But there's a catch here too .  There are a lot of fakes on Telegram. For example, you go and search for the name of the channel and see 10,000 subscribers and think, well,
[14:21] this is a reputable store.  It's all a scam.   It costs 2 kopecks to get more subscribers now .  In the shadow sphere, normal large channels very rarely exceed 2-3,000 people, because the admins of such channels constantly purge bots and people
[14:37] who are simply hanging out there.  Those 2,000 people sitting there are real wholesalers and dealers from all over the country who make money.  And if you see a channel with 50,000 subscribers that offers equipment for 30%.
[14:52] Just run from there.  To sum it all up, I want to say the main thing.  Is it possible to make money by buying goods on the dark web?  Yes, you can.  People have been doing this for years, but I strongly advise against newbies trying to get into it with their last
[15:07] money.  My advice to you: first build a normal, white and legal business.  Open your own store and promote it on the marketplace.  There are a lot of options. Just learn to work with normal suppliers.  Learn some lessons in legitimate
[15:22] business.  You need to understand how retail works, how to communicate with customers, how to handle returns, and so on.  And once you have a real, stable, working business that brings in your bread and butter, then
[15:36] you can use some spare, risky money to try ordering a small batch of goods from a shadow forum to increase your margins.  not 15-30%, increase your margins.  not 15-30%, as in white retail, but take 35-40%.
[15:50] But you should always be prepared for the possibility that this batch will simply not arrive to you, or that you will receive defective goods, or that the transport company will screw you over.  And if you are not ready for this mentally and financially, don’t even open these sites.  In general, think with your own
[16:05] head, don’t fall for freebies and develop your brain.  Good luck to everyone.  Subscribe, it will only get more interesting.  Tell us in the comments if you've ever tried ordering something from a dubious online store and how it
[16:18] ended.  I'll read and laugh together.   Bye. S