[00:00] I figured out what Marvel Universe the X-Men destroy in Adventure Tuesday. It's maybe the universe you think, but the answer is even more interesting than you realize. Welcome back to the Rockstars, I'm Eric Voss, and Adventure's Endgame Encore included a new TVA sequence
[00:13] that was not shown in all screenings, but a scene intended to be a connected bridge between Endgame and Tuesday. And in this scene, we see Earth-10005, the universe of the Fox X-Men, exchanging missiles with an unknown universe labeled Earth-1127.
[00:26] It's taken me a week, but I think I figured out exactly what Earth-1127 is and why they numbered it that. It's October now, and I hate holiday stoppings, so I'm going to make it easy for you. If there is a nerd in your life, they are going to love one of our Doomsday-inspired shirt designs,
[00:40] like this new Masked Sting task shirt, which also comes in hoodies and other varieties, and plenty of other great Doomsday-inspired designs. Give that nerd the gift of getting shouted out in a new Rockstars video, like these awesome fans currently are. Thanks, guys!
[00:52] Okay, in interviews in the past few days, Avengers Doomsday director Joe and Anthony Russo confirmed, shockingly to Empire Magazine, that these scenes added to Endgame Encore will not be in the main runtime for Avengers Doomsday. They are bonus scenes designed to be only on this Endgame theatrical re-release.
[01:07] And this TVA scene with Mobius and Obi that we're talking about in this video is only on Infinity Vision branded PLF screens like IMAX, Dolby, 40X, and ScreenX. To me, that's crazy, because it was a full scene cast with big actors, directed with very professional camera work,
[01:22] scored with Alice in Best Reads Music, and on a fancy new TVA set that they built for this, that would have cost like half a million dollars to build. We actually got some high-quality set photos of this set, and indeed, no green screen here. It was all practical, and it looks glorious.
[01:35] But the Russos gave that answer to the, will these actually be in Doomsday, question, to just the first Steve Rogers, Peggy Carter, and Loki scenes, which, of the four, I have to say, looks the most unfinished, with some odd VFX on Chris Evans' face. Meanwhile, the Bruce Banner scene looks like it's a pre-load video before you go on a Disney ride.
[01:50] Hey, is this thing on? I've successfully hidden from Dr. Doom here two miles under the ground, but I don't have much time. I'm going to need your help to navigate these eight passenger chronopods through Battleworld to help the Avengers fight Dr. Doom.
[02:05] And I built these state-of-the-art gamma glasses so you can spot all the Doom bots. Oh no, Doom's here to collect me! While the TVA scene may not be in Doomsday in its entirety, I do think we're going to see flashes of it or other scenes set in the same location since Marvel Studios clearly invested in building this set and paying these actors.
[02:23] Like, we may actually see flashes to it while something bigger is going on at the same time. I broke down all the universes that we see on the screens in the TVA in this video, but let's focus on Earth-1127, seen in the missile exchange with Earth-10005.
[02:37] We know Earth-10005 is the Fox X-Men universe that has long been known as the Fox X-Men universe number, and 2024's Deadpool and Wolverine confirms that universe number as canon in the MCU. Earth-1127, meanwhile, has never before been established in any comic or in any Marvel movie universe reference list.
[02:54] All we really know is that this universe is as prepared for incursions as the Fox X-Men universe is. They're firing just as many missiles at Earth-10005 as are being fired back at them. Other universes we see during this sequence, like Earth-7355 and Earth-8558,
[03:09] just kind of smash into each other without trying to defend themselves with missiles. That tells us that some incursion-afflicted Earths are caught completely by surprise, while others, like Earth-10005 and Earth-1127, are advanced with their multiversal defenses,
[03:21] and were somewhat ready for this to happen. I also theorized in other videos that these might not be nuclear ICBMs but rather antimatter weapons or weapons designed to reverse the magnetic polarity of the Earth colliding with them or maybe just some kind of specific TVA pruning weapon Like these vessels could be armed with reset charges that they stole from the TVA Who knows All we really
[03:39] know is that these two universes are ready to throw down. But we know Earth-10005 will win this conflict with Earth-1127, because at the very end of the sequence, we see the tree display on the screen with only three Earth timelines left remaining. Those must be Earth-10005, Earth-616,
[03:55] and Earth 828 of the Fantastic Four. The things we see in Avengers Tuesday trailers inside the X-Mansion are the surviving Earth-10005 after this conflict with 1127. And we know most of the X-Men who are returning will do so in this Earth,
[04:08] and San Diego Comic-Con and D23 this past summer pretty much confirmed that Ryan Reynolds, Deadpool, and Hugh Jackson Wolverine will also return here after the events of Deadpool and Wolverine. But in that movie, we learn that Universe-10005 was actually marked for destruction,
[04:21] Since this universe's original anchor being, Wolverine, died at the event of 2017's Logan, a death set in the year 2029 in that timeline, Mr. Paradox identified this universe as ready for extinction, meaning being ready to be pruned fully to the void.
[04:34] Mr. Paradox's plan was to use the Time Ripper to expedite that process. But throughout the events of that movie, Deadpool found a new Wolverine, Drunk Wolverine, and ended up stopping Cassandra Nova from using the Time Ripper to prune all universes down to the void where she could rule as queen.
[04:47] But finding a new Wolverine to serve as 10005's anchor beam spared this universe. Do you see that? Your universe is regenerating. Whatever you did here, you not only saved your world,
[05:00] you spared your timeline from extinction. That tells us that Earth-10005 was not supposed to live on. Originally, something changed. So let's keep that in mind. I think we can also assume that Earth-10005 is where the post-credit scene of the Marvels takes place,
[05:14] where Kelsey Grammer's Hank McGoy Beast says this was Monica Rambeau and the variants of her mother, Maria Rambeau, binary in this universe. What happened? My dear, you somehow crossed through a tear in space-time.
[05:26] You are now in a reality parallel to your own. You think that may be the confusion that happened? Confusion is but the first step on the journey to knowledge. Charles asked for an update.
[05:40] I'll come by and check on you later. It seems like the X-Men here are somewhat familiar with the concept of incursions. But what is binary even doing in this X-Men universe? Well, when we're talking about Earth-1127, the first theory we should really discuss is that it could be a reference to someone's birthday.
[05:55] Actress Lashana Lynch's birthday is November 27th, 1987, 1127. So, Earth-1127 could be another Earth that she originally came from. And with respect to Lashana Lynch, we don't even know if she's going to be in Doomsday.
[06:08] and I don't know if Marvel Studios honors actors playing supporting roles that much. However, someone pointed out that Marvel Studios might be following the numerical nomenclature of Earth-828, which was a reference to Jack Kirby's birthday of August 28th, 1917.
[06:21] 1127 could be a reference to Steve Ditko's birthday of November 2nd, 1927. If not exact, 27 would come from the year instead of the day. Like, if they were being exact, it would be Earth-112, right?
[06:33] But the issue with that is there already is an Earth-112 in Marvel Media, and maybe they just tweaked it here to have an original universe number that wasn't already a reference, but still has much of an honor and a shout out to Steve Ditko, co-creator of Spider-Man.
[06:45] I wouldn't trust Dr. Doom to babysit my son. He's wearing a mask, he's doing magic, trying to take over the multiverse. There's a reason you shouldn't trust Dr. Doom to babysit your kid. Just like there a reason why Morgan the Morgan is America largest injury law firm Morgan and Morgan has a proven track record of fighting for the people for over 35 years with over billion recovered for their clients
[07:07] Morgan & Morgan knows a thing or two about fighting to get their clients the compensation they deserve. Hiring Morgan & Morgan is like hiring an army to go into battle. They've got more than 1,000 lawyers and 100 offices nationwide. If you're injured by someone else's negligence, you deserve to be paid.
[07:21] Not all law firms are the same, hire the wrong one, and you may be beat before you even start. If you're ever injured, you can check out Morgan & Morgan, and their fee is free unless they win. For more information, you can go to ForThePeople.com slash rockstars.
[07:38] Earth-1127 probably is some past universe that the X-Men destroyed in the events leading up to Tuesday, and maybe lost some of their ranks in the fight against. That could be why we don't have Storm and Jean Grey in this movie, and why Scott Summers looked so pissed off and anguished in trailers.
[07:52] Leave a message to Theory 2. 11.27 could be a key TVA designation of some kind. 11.27 is three fewer than 11.30, 1.1.3.0, the Loki variant number in the Loki series, the Loki who ended up becoming the God of Stories now.
[08:05] Also, in Loki Season 2, Episode 4, as the temporal loom was overloading, the P.A. announcement kept announcing this. Come on.
[08:17] Come on, come on, come on, come on. There it is! 1127 again! It could be a coincidental number that feels random and specific without having to be a specific reference to anything. Or maybe nothing's a coincidence, and 1127 is the kind of all-is-lost error code when you're facing the worst possible apocalyptic threat.
[08:33] Theory 3 is a comic book reference. This Reddit post suggests that it could be a reference to the Amazing Spider-Man issue number 62 from 2024, about the 8 deaths of Spider-Man released on 11-27-2024.
[08:46] I like their thinking, but I think this writer might just be trying to connect stops to a Spider-Man reference for a reason. And before I continue, I will now have to address some possible plot points for Avengers Doomsday that were brought up in rumored leaks.
[08:58] We don't know yet if they're accurate, but lots of details have been lining up, and I can't pretend like they're not out there. So I'm warning you now, you can stop watching this video if you want to stay completely blind to any rumored leaks. But if you do stop watching, you're not going to get the fun answer right piece at the beginning of the video. Sorry.
[09:12] Anyway, it has long been rumored that Avengers Doomsday will open in a battle between the Fox X-Men universe of Earth-10005 and the Tobey Maguire-Sam Rainey Spider-Man universe of Earth-96283 that will see Tobey Maguire and Hugh Jackman battling it out.
[09:27] In this battle, the six weapons designed by Hank McCoy Beast and Charles Xavier will completely obliterate that Spider-Man universe. In fact, many believe that that could be the Earth that Ned's Spidey-Strucker app in the brand-new Daypost credit scene was pointed to when it found a new Spider-Man in space.
[09:40] So, it is possible that Marvel Studios might just be renumbering Earth 96283 to 1127, but I doubt that they would do that for no reason, because Marvel went out of their way to maintain the understood universe number of 10005,
[09:53] when that's way more of a mouthful. Like, two zeros into that, and you've forgotten how many zeros you said. Seriously, every time I've been saying that in videos, I am counting on my fingers off-camera. 10005. I hate it. But let's stick with the theory that they might have named it Earth 1127
[10:07] in honor of Steve Ditko, Spider-Man co-creator, born in November of 1927. Bring us to theory four. 1127 is a Spider-Man universe, the Spider-Man universe, a universe where Tobey Maguire is Spider-Man,
[10:21] but a different timeline in history than Earth 96283. Why would it have to be different Spider No Way Home Spider No Way Home changed the Spider universes that these characters came from In the original Earth Norman Osborn died when his own glider impaled him
[10:37] Otto Octavius drowned in the river with his fusion device. But in Spider-Man No Way Home, Doctor Strange's Ruth's Call spell and the way Peter disrupted that reality-warping spell caused these characters to teleport from their home universe right before their death to Earth-616.
[10:51] In No Way Home, being Peter came up with ways to fix these villains and make them less evil. Otto Octavius' ship that caused the AI of his robotic arm to go haywire and drive him crazy was fixed by Peter, and Otto was restored enough to have this nice moment with his universe's Peter.
[11:06] It's good to see you, dear boy. It's good to see you. Norman Osborn initially resisted and allowed his Green Goblin identity to go full evil and kill Aunt May, but by the end of that final battle, Peter Parker plugged him with the anti-serum to cure him.
[11:20] So for the events of Spider-Man No Way Home to matter, Those men could not have been transported back directly to the history of Earth-96283 as it unfolded directly to their death. That would make the victory of curing their evils meaningless.
[11:32] So, logically, the universe that these versions of Norman Osborn and Otto Octavius refer to must be a new branch timeline, a new universe. A universe that Marvel Studios and Avengers Doomsday would appropriately name after the Spider-Man co-creator, C. Ditko, Earth-1127.
[11:48] And now, in this hypothetical branch timeline, Norman and Otto would probably work with this new branch of the universe's Tobey Maguire Peter Parker, and great minds like that would probably have come up with multiversal awareness and planetary defenses that would rival the great minds of Earth-10005,
[12:04] Charles Xavier, Magneto, and Beast. Now, would this be the same Peter Parker or Tobey Maguire who went through the events of No Way Home? That's unclear, because I feel like that Tobey Maguire Peter would still return to the Earth-96283 that he came from,
[12:16] to the MJ that he was married to, because that exact variant's history would need to logically be post-Norman Osborn, post-Otto Octavius, post-everything that happened in that trilogy, as it happened. But the Norman and Otto universe of 1127 would probably have its own Tobey Maguire Spider-Man in it.
[12:32] And folks, if it's just a scene where Tobey Peter fights X-Men like Wolverine for survival, they probably won't get into the No Way Home history anyway. That's going to be all this opening scene needs, right? Just action figures boom-booming into each other. In fact, figuring out the whole logic of this could be why the Russo brothers
[12:46] brought in the No Way Home screenwriters of Chris McKenna and Eric Summers to help with the Doomsday screenplay. McKenna just confirmed that on a podcast. So I think we did figure out why this Earth is called Earth 1127. Why this TVA scene won't be in Avengers Doomsday as it exactly is here,
[13:00] because Doomsday will instead open with a cooler sequence of this battle, shown from the ground. And we figured out what I think is an interesting explanation that would demonstrate a wise awareness by Marvel Studios and their writers of what they have already established in their own chapters of the multiverse saga.
[13:14] Doomsday truly would be the movie that makes the multiverse saga matter, with well-defined connected tissue. Comment down below with your thoughts on this theory. Please subscribe to New Rockstars, and if you haven't already, consider joining New Rockstars as a channel member to get early access to some of our videos.
[13:28] And a special thanks to one of our members, Dante, for supporting us at the executive producer level. Big Ten Studio Tech's Brian Kim, New Rockstars editors Joshua Seaton-Hurt and Abby Friel, and all of our supporting editors for their work on this video. Follow me at EA Boss and hit that subscribe button.
[13:40] Thanks for watching, and I'll see you next time. Bye! Thank you.