[0:00] many say that you really haven't lived
[0:02] until you've owned a Porsche 911 but
[0:05] with so many of them on the road and so
[0:07] many different Generations which one is
[0:09] the best one for you I dig into most of
[0:12] the Porsche 911s for sale today that
[0:14] includes air cooled 91s and the water
[0:17] cooled 911s including the Porsche 996
[0:21] 997 991 and finally the latest Porsche
[0:25] 992 I can tell you I love them all
[0:28] however they each have their Pro and
[0:30] cons and so owning a Porche 911 might be
[0:32] your childhood dream but you need to
[0:34] know exactly what you're getting into so
[0:36] that it does not turn into your
[0:38] childhood nightmare as an adult what we
[0:40] do is if we need that extra push over
[0:43] the cliff you know what we do put it up
[0:45] to 11 exactly so if you think that only
[0:48] a Porche 911 might be in your future
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[0:54] videos coming up really soon and so in
[0:57] no particular order let's start with the
[1:01] yes let's start with the 997 Come a
[1:03] Little Closer ask anybody in the street
[1:05] which one you think is newer and you're
[1:07] going to get answers that you might not
[1:09] expect let's just say the answers will
[1:11] be way off and that's how you know that
[1:14] Porsche did an incredible job with the
[1:16] Porsche
[1:18] 997 in this video I'm going to cover the
[1:20] Porsche 997 why it's so popular what to
[1:23] look for and if it's worth the expense
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[1:33] do so many people think the 997 is the
[1:35] best modern 911 just look at it this is
[1:39] the most porsa looking modern Porsche
[1:42] that Porsche has ever made from every
[1:44] single corner it screams Porsche it
[1:46] looks like a 959 from the front and a
[1:48] proper 911 from the rear now it's
[1:51] interesting that this car is almost
[1:53] exactly the same car as the Porsche 996
[1:56] yet a lot of people love the 997 but
[2:00] hate the 996 and it's essentially the
[2:02] same car yes it's upgraded but those
[2:04] headlights would truly have made this
[2:07] car a favorite of so many it looks like
[2:09] an older 911 and like a newer 911 so
[2:12] driving down the street with this car
[2:13] you really can't tell how old it is
[2:15] whatsoever and I think that my favorite
[2:17] part as far as looks is the rear slope
[2:19] the rear slope on the 997 is a proper
[2:22] 911 you see how the slope goes all the
[2:25] way down past the belt line into the
[2:27] bumper that's exactly what a 911 sh
[2:29] should be it just looks extra aggressive
[2:31] extra 911 now when I talk about looks
[2:34] it's interesting because you see this
[2:35] car in pictures and it looks a lot
[2:37] bigger than the earlier aircooled 911s
[2:39] but this is one of the best things about
[2:41] the Porsche 997 it is sports car size so
[2:44] no extra fat just the perfect Dimensions
[2:46] so this compact size adds to its driver
[2:49] feel now remember that the newer ones
[2:51] got a lot bigger in the outside but they
[2:53] did not get a lot bigger in the inside
[2:55] now when looking at Porsche 997 unlike
[2:57] the earlier aircool 911s you actually
[2:59] have have to be a lot more careful
[3:01] because a lot of what to look for is
[3:03] totally hidden so I'm going to go down
[3:04] the list of the few things to look for
[3:06] on a 997 and the ones that feel like red
[3:09] flag but they're really not oil leaks
[3:11] 997s leak oil but the oil leaks are
[3:14] nothing like they were with the earlier
[3:16] air cooled cars the earlier air cooled
[3:18] cars leaked so much oil that the smell
[3:21] that they give is part of the car's
[3:23] Essence which I kind of like that kind
[3:24] of oil and rubber mixed smell I I love
[3:27] it but on 997s on a hot engine cover
[3:30] when you pull it up you should not smell
[3:32] any oil whatsoever now what a lot of
[3:34] people don't know is that when they look
[3:36] under a 997 it usually looks perfect
[3:39] because those plastic panels that are on
[3:41] the car they hide a multiple of sins
[3:44] they hide dents in the chassis overspray
[3:46] from a repainted car and oil running
[3:48] completely under the entire car a lot of
[3:50] them actually don't have under trays
[3:52] anymore a lot of people just leave them
[3:53] off but if they're missing it's a huge
[3:55] indication of how much the owner cares
[3:57] about the car if he didn't bother to put
[4:00] it back on it's a red flag and it means
[4:02] that the car needs extra inspection
[4:04] moving on to the next one one of the
[4:05] ones that everybody loves to talk about
[4:07] is bore scoring now bore scoring on the
[4:10] m96 and m97 engines is very rare it's
[4:14] also rare on the newer DFI motor but you
[4:16] know how the internet is the first red
[4:18] flag is a black and tail pipe usually on
[4:21] the driver's side but if the car was
[4:22] detailed by a dealer chances are that
[4:24] you won't see it there the easiest way
[4:26] to find out if the car has bore scoring
[4:28] or anything that could be like that is
[4:29] is to get a little Bard scope just like
[4:31] this and it's so simple even a baby
[4:33] could do it you pull out the spark plugs
[4:34] and you stick the little camera down the
[4:36] cylinder wall a lot of them you could
[4:38] even see on your phone it's not a
[4:39] complicated thing now a thing about
[4:41] board scoring I've seen cars with board
[4:43] scoring that they keep driving year
[4:45] after year nothing happens the engine
[4:47] hasn't blown up the owner is enjoying it
[4:49] the owner's tracking it the owner's
[4:51] going to events they just keep driving
[4:53] it's not a big deal So eventually
[4:55] something's going to happen to the motor
[4:56] but
[4:58] 99.999% of the the rebuilds that I'm
[5:00] seeing from board scoring are with board
[5:02] scoring that are very light the car was
[5:05] driving perfectly and the mechanic
[5:07] recommended to have a full engine
[5:09] rebuild to get it addressed now in most
[5:11] cases the owner could have kept on
[5:12] driving for years you will hear a
[5:15] ticking sound if there's issues with the
[5:17] board scoring you will hear it most
[5:18] owners are rebuilding these engines in a
[5:21] panic when the mechanic says listen your
[5:23] engine's bad and you need to go ahead
[5:24] and get it rebuilt it's a tough call
[5:26] especially because I know a lot of
[5:27] Porsche 997s that have b exporing and
[5:30] they just they're dty drivers most
[5:31] people are doing full engine rebuilds
[5:33] when they see a little line in the
[5:35] cylinder walls it's ridiculous moving on
[5:38] to the next point with the Porsche 997
[5:40] there's so much BS on the internet that
[5:42] owners and would be owners are
[5:44] constantly looking or hearing for any
[5:46] little tick any little sound that could
[5:49] be like the engine exploding or
[5:50] something but there is something that
[5:52] can cause concern on the
[5:54] 997.2 with the newer engine you see what
[5:57] most people read is that that car does
[5:59] not have have the IMs but that car is a
[6:01] DFI motor direct fuel injection direct
[6:04] injection which is really stupid because
[6:06] it clogs up the intake so bad that you
[6:08] have to pull it apart and clean it and
[6:10] most people are surprised to learn that
[6:12] direct fuel injection has like a tick at
[6:21] idle like and it's not just the 997 it's
[6:25] all direct fuel injected cars it's just
[6:27] that a lot of cars have a lot of
[6:28] insulation with the plastic covers to
[6:30] quiet down that sound the 97 doesn't
[6:32] have that so you can actually hear it
[6:34] from the outside when the car is idling
[6:35] it's completely normal that's just how
[6:38] the fuel injection is in that car a lot
[6:40] of owners worry that the car is ticking
[6:42] because of boore scoring and it's just
[6:44] the fuel injectors if the injectors on
[6:46] that car are too loud a solid exhaust
[6:48] system fixes most
[6:50] [Music]
[6:52] problems it's a nonissue on to the next
[6:54] point one of the great things about the
[6:56] Porsche 997s is that the owners baby
[6:58] these cars so it's very rare that you're
[7:00] going to find a Porsche 997s with Falcon
[7:03] Tires or with mismatch tires all the way
[7:06] around but that also means is that a lot
[7:08] of owners are throwing too much money
[7:10] into these cars what do I mean full body
[7:12] paint protection films now I get it
[7:15] these paint protection films can be good
[7:17] if you're going to be daily driving the
[7:18] car it kind of saves the paint only a
[7:20] little bit by the way so I wouldn't pay
[7:22] a premium for any car that's had paint
[7:24] protection fil you want to keep your
[7:25] paint perfect to keep the car in a
[7:27] garage that does more than any paint
[7:28] protection film ever will moving on to
[7:30] the next one battery draining these cars
[7:33] all drain battery now you can put a
[7:35] battery cut off on it which a lot of
[7:36] people don't the best thing you can do
[7:38] is put a battery tender on it now what a
[7:40] lot of people don't realize is that if
[7:41] you don't put a battery tender on the
[7:43] Porsche 997 if the car has been parked
[7:46] for a month and the car starts so
[7:48] basically the battery didn't drain the
[7:50] battery is actually at a lower State and
[7:52] you are going to get a lot of warning
[7:54] signs because a lot of sensors are not
[7:56] going to fully fire up and those error
[7:58] codes stay in the computer and you're
[7:59] chasing Gremlins that don't exist make
[8:02] sure that that car gets started up every
[8:03] 2 weeks otherwise you might definitely
[8:05] get warning signs and then the worst
[8:07] thing that you could do it go take it to
[8:08] a mechanic where for sure he's going to
[8:10] help you find something and all it was
[8:12] is just a battery that is going now this
[8:15] is not 997 specifically the same thing
[8:17] happens with the Porsche 928 perhaps
[8:19] even more a lot of people just go ahead
[8:20] and put battery cut offs on that just to
[8:22] not deal with it moving on to the next
[8:24] point one of the good things about the
[8:25] Porsche 97 is that it's OBD2 now for
[8:28] guys that like older Classics OBD2 is
[8:30] like wo you just take a little scanner
[8:32] it actually tells you what's wrong with
[8:34] it so this is great for a lot of
[8:35] different reasons but with the Porche 97
[8:37] OBD2 is not a way to see what the codes
[8:40] are in the car you actually have to take
[8:41] it to a tech where they have a
[8:43] professional scanner that can tell you
[8:45] everything about the car there's a lot
[8:47] of cars that are driving perfect but
[8:48] they have been over revved 12 20 30
[8:51] times and guess what all that
[8:53] information is there recorded on the DME
[8:56] which is great you actually find out
[8:58] more on a PPI than than most earlier
[9:00] Porsches just because they put it in the
[9:02] scanner and you cannot hide anything
[9:04] another great thing is that the miles
[9:05] are recorded on there so unlike early
[9:07] portions which in many cases the miles
[9:09] are because it's so easy to change the
[9:11] miles on those cars on the newer 96 and
[9:13] 97s everything is recorded in the
[9:16] computer so in the Porsche 997
[9:17] specifically a pre- purchase inspection
[9:19] and a set of Records is super important
[9:21] just because you can't tell on that car
[9:23] just by looking at it the best bet is to
[9:25] find a trusted mechanic that you know
[9:27] develop a relationship before buying the
[9:29] car because these cars are getting to
[9:31] such an age now that even if it was
[9:33] running perfect it's going to start
[9:34] having maintenance things that need to
[9:36] get done to it now why is that so
[9:37] important because usually trouble cars
[9:39] are always trouble Cars and Cars that
[9:41] never give trouble usually never give
[9:43] trouble so for example if a car doesn't
[9:44] have board scoring at 90,000 Mi guess
[9:47] what it's probably never going to have
[9:49] board scoring if the car doesn't have
[9:50] IMS issues at 90,000 Mi guess what it's
[9:53] probably never going to have IMS issues
[9:55] now as far as the deals I've learned
[9:57] with 997s what you're really shopping
[9:58] for is condition you're shopping for the
[10:00] history of a car and if the car has been
[10:02] abused or neglected one thing is 100%
[10:06] sure with the 97 whatever you buy this
[10:08] car for jump 3 4 years and you're going
[10:11] to sell it for more so in a way is less
[10:13] expensive than buying a new mini van
[10:15] that drops half its value in 2 3 years
[10:18] so that's why it's super important to
[10:19] get a 997 in the best condition possible
[10:22] because if you do happen to sell the car
[10:24] and most people actually do eventually
[10:26] because we're not on this planet forever
[10:27] whatever money you put into that car you
[10:29] pull it right back out so resale is a
[10:31] huge part of the 997 appe it sells fast
[10:34] and the prices keep going up they
[10:36] haven't achieved 993 levels yet but a
[10:38] lot of people are already saying that
[10:39] the 997 is the next 993 and judging by
[10:43] the way that the prices keep going up
[10:44] it's entirely possible so it makes no
[10:46] sense to try to get a deal on a Porche
[10:48] 97 because that deal is going to cost
[10:51] you more when you go ahead and you
[10:52] resell that car so on a Porche 997 it's
[10:55] okay to splurge to spend just a little
[10:57] bit more on the one that you really like
[10:59] because at the end of the day you'll
[11:01] always get your money back on that car
[11:02] so are you really splurging or are you
[11:04] being smart so that's the way that I
[11:06] feel about the Porsche 97 Porsche 911
[11:10] 9996 let me start by saying that Porsche
[11:12] would love to have another 996 now on
[11:16] this video I'm going to explain the
[11:17] market on this car and the prices why
[11:19] they are what they are let's look at the
[11:21] actual car versus the market first when
[11:23] the 996 came out the 996 was bigger than
[11:26] the 993 but it was lighter it wasn't
[11:28] just bigger it was also faster lighter
[11:30] and most importantly the structure was
[11:32] stiffer a lot stiffer as a matter of
[11:34] fact the handling advantages of the 996
[11:37] versus the 993 come from the increased
[11:39] wheelbase and most importantly the
[11:41] stiffer structure the structure of the
[11:43] 996 is essentially the same one in the
[11:45] 997 they are essentially the same car
[11:48] the 997 is a refined 996 you wouldn't
[11:51] know that by looking at these huged car
[11:53] prices let's see what's going on looking
[11:54] at the car as far as the quality of the
[11:56] car 996 versus a car replaced the the
[11:59] Porsche 993 well I've got some thoughts
[12:01] on it that are very different than
[12:03] anything that you read online these cars
[12:06] are all getting old now so basically
[12:07] every single one of these used cars are
[12:09] going to need some kind of restoration
[12:11] unless you're buying them in low mile
[12:12] unbelievable condition so the first
[12:14] thought that comes up with any classic
[12:15] car is restoration what are you going to
[12:17] do to the car and most importantly how
[12:19] has the car held up over time how has
[12:21] the car held up has it disintegrated in
[12:23] the elements in the weather or is it
[12:25] holding up is a true test of the quality
[12:27] of the car let's look at some specific
[12:29] earlier air cooled 911s versus this new
[12:32] 996 let's start with the interiors that
[12:34] seems to be the main complaint about the
[12:36] Porsche 996 that the Interiors are very
[12:39] plastically and just not up to the same
[12:41] quality of the earlier aircool 911 that
[12:43] is BS with a few asterids let me explain
[12:46] this one the dashboard on the earlier
[12:48] aircool 911s all crack eventually it
[12:51] uses the same material that the Porsche
[12:53] 944 used and 968 and the Porsche 928
[12:58] given enough time and parked outside in
[12:59] the sun those dashboards crack 996s nope
[13:03] those plastic dashboards on the 996s
[13:05] even though the rake on the windshield
[13:07] is far more so it gets more sun they do
[13:09] not crack as a matter of fact if you
[13:11] look up online comparing the price of a
[13:13] 996 dashboard versus a 993 dashboard
[13:16] it's night and day and the only ones
[13:17] that do go bad are the leather WRA ones
[13:19] but every single other leather WRA
[13:21] dashboard goes bad not a symptom of the
[13:23] quality of the dashboard is just the
[13:24] leather so as far as the Plastics in the
[13:26] earlier 911s versus the later 96
[13:28] Generations if we're going to measure
[13:30] perceived versus actual actual quality
[13:32] is actually higher in the 996 is
[13:34] Plastics versus the earlier air cool 991
[13:37] cars so why the outrage on the 996 is
[13:39] interior well there's just more plastic
[13:42] more plastic than there was in the
[13:43] earlier cars plastic is not good at the
[13:45] end of the day nobody wants plastic in
[13:46] their cars which that all changed by the
[13:48] way in the Porsche 996 turbo those came
[13:51] with standard leather rep dashboard you
[13:53] sit in a 996 turbo versus a standard
[13:55] Carrera and you'll see the difference
[13:56] but the standard ones are fantastic
[13:58] because they last far better than the
[14:01] earlier aircool 911 dashboards 928
[14:03] dashboards 944 dashboards and 968
[14:06] dashboards and of course the 924 let's
[14:08] look at the rest of the Interior what it
[14:09] would cost to restore a 996 versus an
[14:12] earlier car the seats if you got to
[14:14] replace worn leather on a por 996
[14:16] interior you can pick from 996 seats
[14:18] boxer seats and the newer generation 997
[14:20] seats they bolt on another thing that
[14:22] these cars suffered from as a matter of
[14:24] fact a lot of BMWs too BMWs Ferraris
[14:27] Austin Martin are sticky buttons on
[14:29] radios like this this radio is a
[14:31] standard radio that came in most 996s
[14:34] and 986s the Becker unit what's the
[14:36] biggest complain about these radios that
[14:38] they're not up to the same quality of
[14:39] the earlier ones the buttons you wipe
[14:41] them down with alcohol and put them back
[14:43] you don't have to worry about it again
[14:44] yet when you sit inside the car you go
[14:45] to turn on the radio your impression is
[14:47] of a sticky interior just because you
[14:49] touched this little thing ridiculous I
[14:51] would be far more concerned about a
[14:53] cracked dashboard or seats that are
[14:55] super expensive to repair the little
[14:56] plastic parts this is not the argument
[14:58] that you're going to find find anywhere
[14:59] when you talk about this car the first
[15:01] thing you're going to hear is that the
[15:02] interior is not up to the same level as
[15:04] before let's move on to the body you
[15:05] don't have to worry about rust with
[15:07] anything from the 996 and up unless it's
[15:09] been crashed and improperly repaired
[15:11] rust is just not a big factor in the
[15:13] body of these newer cars these cars are
[15:15] not getting younger they're getting
[15:16] older and rust it starts becoming a main
[15:18] concern you don't have to worry about
[15:19] any of that with the Porsche 96 and up
[15:21] it's something less of a headache the
[15:23] body is as good as it get and as as good
[15:25] as Porsche has made the cost to restore
[15:28] these cars are far less than the earlier
[15:30] aircool 911s but the perception of lower
[15:32] quality sticks around like it never goes
[15:35] away it's ridiculous now living in Miami
[15:37] has definitely affected how I feel about
[15:40] cars in general what happened here is
[15:41] very similar to what happened all over
[15:43] the world when the pora 996 came out
[15:45] remember that Porsche replaced the
[15:47] freshly restyled 993 with the 996 the
[15:50] 993 was only about 3 years old when the
[15:52] 996 came out and the 996 completely
[15:54] outsold that car for his entire
[15:56] generation and that unbelievable amount
[15:58] of success for Porsche is the 96's
[16:00] biggest problem today let's see exactly
[16:03] how successful that car was for
[16:05] comparison purposes let's compare the
[16:06] porsa 996 to other Porsches the Porsche
[16:09] 928 from 1977 to 1995 sold only 61,000
[16:13] cars all over the world that was it the
[16:16] other cross up that you would have is
[16:17] the Porsche 993 well the Porsche 993
[16:20] from 1993 to 98 they sold 68,000 cars
[16:24] 68,000 cars guess how many Porsche 996
[16:27] is Porsche sold from 98 to to 2005 it
[16:29] sold
[16:32] 175,000 cars that is even more cars than
[16:35] the 944 sold from 1982 to 1991 they did
[16:39] 163,000 cars and that was supposed to be
[16:42] the entry level Porsche this more
[16:43] expensive 996 out sold all of those
[16:45] controversial mm I don't think so if it
[16:48] would have been so controversial it
[16:49] would not have sold in the numbers that
[16:50] have sold if Porscha was giving a
[16:52] bargain if pora was giving a deal well
[16:53] then perhaps that could be controversial
[16:55] at out sold but no it didn't they were
[16:56] charging full prices for these Cars Plus
[16:59] on and so the market was flooded with
[17:00] these cars now it's easy to forget how
[17:02] many of these cars were sold if you look
[17:04] at options like this you see a series of
[17:06] 996 cars a series of 993 997 cars right
[17:10] next to it and you think why is the 996
[17:12] so much less expensive if you see these
[17:15] sales you're only seeing a static
[17:17] picture of what has sold you're not
[17:18] seeing the backlog a huge pool of cars
[17:21] that are coming in and out of the market
[17:22] all the time and bring a trailer in the
[17:24] same amount of time that the 993 sold
[17:26] about 500 cars almost 999 96 were sold
[17:29] that doesn't even begin to give you an
[17:32] entire picture of all the other cars
[17:33] that are setting in the used car market
[17:35] cuz remember bring a Trader is just a
[17:36] very small Niche that is the biggest
[17:38] reason that these cars prices are a deal
[17:40] it is simple supply and demand the more
[17:43] cars on the market the price goes down
[17:44] it was Porsche's most successful Porsche
[17:47] 911 it is a victim of its own success
[17:50] there is more these cars available now
[17:52] to purchase then 993s 997s 928s 968 for
[17:56] sure and so the prices hav climbed how
[17:59] they have with these other cars got
[18:00] nothing to do with the styling of these
[18:02] cars with the headlights it's got
[18:04] nothing to do with that if that were
[18:05] true the 996 GT3 and 996 turbo will be
[18:08] selling for peanuts they're not those
[18:10] cars sell out a premium even with the
[18:11] headlights these headlights are already
[18:13] becoming cool the Simplicity it's pure
[18:15] classic Porsche no one ever says a bad
[18:18] word about these style headlights when
[18:20] they're on a GT1 the good thing about
[18:22] these cars is that the prices have
[18:23] already stabilized as a matter of fact
[18:24] the prices are actually going up high
[18:26] quality condition 996 is are selling
[18:28] already for more than higher mileage 997
[18:31] these are essentially the same car the
[18:32] engine cost about the same that it cost
[18:34] air cooled 911s to rebuild the Interiors
[18:36] are cheaper to redo and the body you
[18:37] won't have to worry so much about rust
[18:39] with these cars versus the earlier 911s
[18:41] it's a win-win for these cars now if
[18:42] you're looking to flip it for double or
[18:44] triple like some other used car classic
[18:46] you might be out of luck with this car
[18:47] but if you're looking to buy and hold on
[18:49] for a while enjoy it in the meantime
[18:51] this definitely is the car for you
[18:52] imagine a machine that Roars to life a
[18:55] machine that completely defies limits
[18:57] and a legacy that races Through Time all
[19:00] encapsulated in the Ferocious Porsche
[19:03] 991 welcome ferow Thrill Seekers to the
[19:06] world where curves and straightaways
[19:08] become your canvas and the Porsche 991
[19:11] is your paintbrush inside the cockpit
[19:14] you're not just a driver you are a
[19:16] warrior a commander of torque and
[19:18] horsepower almost perfect well in this
[19:22] video I'm going to cover the Porsche 911
[19:24] 991 years 2011 to 2019 if you are a
[19:29] buyer or you already own a Porsche 911
[19:32] this video is for you wo but first
[19:34] enough with the windows shopping hit the
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[19:40] Porsche enthusiasts let's go most
[19:43] Porsche 91's now are coming out a
[19:45] warranty and so one of the biggest
[19:47] questions that most people possibly have
[19:48] to themselves is is it reliable well if
[19:51] we're looking at the engine and
[19:53] transmission they have already proven to
[19:55] be a rock solid how Rock Solid the 9 A1
[19:58] engine in the Porsche 991 is the same
[20:01] engine that is in the Porsche 997.2 and
[20:04] guess what the 997.2 go for a huge
[20:07] premium and the main reason that they go
[20:10] for a premium is because of that engine
[20:12] knowing a lot of Porsche shop owners
[20:14] here in Miami universally every single
[20:16] one of them praises the Porsche 991 is
[20:19] the most trouble-free 911 that Porsche
[20:21] has ever made I know a lot of 997.2 with
[20:24] over 200,000 mies and they are daily
[20:27] driven and they are perfect so if that's
[20:29] any indication of the Mechanicals of
[20:31] these cars they are a go except for a
[20:34] couple little things that are not really
[20:36] engine related they're accessory related
[20:38] for example the water pump can give
[20:40] issues some people have had to replace
[20:41] them at 30,000 Mi some at 40,000 Mi and
[20:44] some never but I wouldn't consider that
[20:46] engine related even those attached to
[20:48] the engine those are accessories and
[20:49] they're also maintenance items you're
[20:51] going to have to replace a water pump
[20:52] anyways eventually and they're not that
[20:55] expensive the only thing bad about the
[20:56] Porche 91's engine is that you can't see
[20:58] it but you can definitely hear
[21:02] it the Porsche 991 is a very very
[21:06] different car than any earlier Porsche
[21:08] 911 it's far more comfortable and far
[21:10] more daily drivable than earlier cars to
[21:13] the point where on the highway with a
[21:15] suspension softened up and the exhaust
[21:17] toned down it's a cruiser you can
[21:19] definitely do 5 600 m per day on a
[21:21] Porche 991 which is very similar to the
[21:23] Porche 928 by the way so I can see where
[21:25] the comparisons come from but
[21:26] longdistance Comfort is where the
[21:29] similarities end the Porche 991 is as
[21:31] hardcore as it gets and as a matter of
[21:33] fact it's a lot sharper than virtually
[21:36] every single earlier 911 except for the
[21:38] GT cars so it is most definitely not a
[21:41] grand tour so the Dual nature of the
[21:43] Porche 991 means that more people are
[21:46] looking at this Porsche 911 than
[21:48] virtually any other Porsche 911 in its
[21:50] history and it's been very popular for
[21:52] Porsche but it's not just that the car
[21:55] is more accessible it's not that at all
[21:57] there are huge Advan ments in the
[21:59] Porsche 991s that you do not see just by
[22:02] looking at it the structure on the
[22:04] Porsche 991 is completely different than
[22:06] the 997s this structure is bigger but
[22:09] also lighter and stiffer an ultra rare
[22:12] thing in cars today where everything
[22:14] keeps getting more and more bloated that
[22:16] didn't happen with the 991 it actually
[22:18] got lighter stiffer and yes a little bit
[22:20] bigger mainly in the track for better
[22:22] handling and stability so the structures
[22:24] of these Porsche 991s are rock solid and
[22:27] I can see the structure of these Porche
[22:29] n1s outlasting the owners easily and
[22:32] that's what you have in the Porche nn1 a
[22:34] Porsche that's going to last several
[22:35] decades Interiors this is something that
[22:38] has been universally praised on the
[22:40] Porche 91 the quality of the materials
[22:43] in the interior now there is a big
[22:44] difference between perceived quality and
[22:47] actual quality because plastic is
[22:49] plastic but what is far more impressive
[22:52] in the Porsche 991 is the leather
[22:55] interiors because usually leather
[22:57] interiors are a a liability for the
[23:00] second or third or fourth owner leather
[23:02] interiors specifically leather
[23:04] dashboards look great for a couple years
[23:06] until inevitably the leather starts
[23:08] shrinking it starts warping and the
[23:10] interior starts looking like a mess and
[23:13] this happens with most manufacturers
[23:15] that have full leather interiors but
[23:17] this is not happening with the Porsche
[23:19] 991 leather's leather right wait till
[23:22] you see this usually when you have
[23:24] leather bonded to plastic one of two
[23:26] things happens the leather shrinks and
[23:28] the adhesive that is connecting it to
[23:30] the plastic is not strong enough to hold
[23:32] the actual leather and so the leather
[23:33] pulls away the other thing is the actual
[23:36] adhesive itself the glue breaks down and
[23:38] loses all its strength it's not just the
[23:41] heat you see when the Plastics heat up
[23:43] they gas out and those gases the new car
[23:46] smell start breaking down the glue and
[23:48] so every single manufacturer is bonding
[23:50] their Leathers directly to that plastic
[23:53] so what did Porsche do they remove all
[23:55] the plastic on these 991 dashboards it
[23:58] looks like like this there is just the
[23:59] ever foam and the leather directly
[24:01] mounted to the Top This is how custom
[24:03] hot rods are built out in California and
[24:05] it's usually not cheap so with the
[24:07] portion 991 specifically full leather
[24:09] interiors are totally worth it so this
[24:11] new method of construction is the reason
[24:14] that the leather dashboards on the
[24:16] Porche n1's are holding up a whole lot
[24:19] better than anything that came before it
[24:21] now it's not all perfect the door panels
[24:24] to warp in the heat now if you're coming
[24:26] from a classic Porsche and you see this
[24:28] you're like who cares but if you've
[24:30] never done any kind of restoration once
[24:32] you see the door panel separating it can
[24:34] be a little bit alarming and it might
[24:36] make you think that there's something
[24:37] wrong with the car this can easily be
[24:39] fixed with some glue a heat gun and a
[24:41] couple clamps it's not a big deal it's
[24:43] kind of like first world problems
[24:45] considering what you're getting with the
[24:46] Porsche 9n1 size versus the earlier
[24:50] Porsche 911s another reason why Porsche
[24:52] enthusiasts say that 991 is more of a
[24:55] tour is because it's grown and it's so
[24:57] much bigger than the earlier 911s hold
[24:59] on just a second it's only a few inches
[25:02] bigger it's still a very small car for
[25:04] comparison I think that we all can agree
[25:06] that the Porsche 993 is a tiny car not
[25:10] that much bigger and we also can agree
[25:12] that the Porsche 997 is also a very
[25:15] small car you see the reason the Porche
[25:17] 911 looks bigger is mainly because of
[25:19] the higher belt line that also spans
[25:21] into the rear bumper makes it look a lot
[25:23] bigger than what it really is so the
[25:25] optical illusion of the raised Belt Line
[25:27] and the lower roof does make it look a
[25:29] lot bigger if it's by itself but the
[25:32] moment that you park it next to any
[25:33] other car you see the Porche 991 is
[25:36] still the size of a real sports car
[25:39] ceramic versus steel brakes when you
[25:41] search ceramic brakes online you're
[25:43] going to get two polar opposite opinions
[25:46] some people say it's worth it and some
[25:47] people say the breaking is worse in the
[25:49] cold and some people have sold their
[25:51] cars because of the ceramic brakes this
[25:54] is crazy most of the ceramic brakes that
[25:56] I've seen that drive not so good as in
[25:59] the car really doesn't have brake Feld
[26:00] when it's cold is because it doesn't
[26:02] have the OEM pads usually somewhere
[26:04] along the line the pads were changed and
[26:06] the brakes don't feel quite right if the
[26:09] pads are brand new it should have better
[26:11] bite when it's cold and much better bite
[26:13] when it's hot now there is this middle
[26:15] in the modulation that they can feel
[26:16] very different than the steel brakes
[26:18] that's why the steel brakes are so
[26:19] popular and so what a lot of people have
[26:21] done is change the brake pads to a
[26:22] different compound that is more drivable
[26:24] on the street and that's exactly what I
[26:26] would do if I had the Ceramics the
[26:28] packed brake pads they're far easier to
[26:30] drive on the streets especially if you
[26:32] don't know what kind of brake pads are
[26:33] even on your car instead of giving up on
[26:35] them try these brake pad they should
[26:37] help a lot and of course bleed the
[26:39] brakes a lot of people forget that now
[26:41] the other thing that I've heard is that
[26:42] ceramic brakes can be a little bit noisy
[26:44] and yes that's true it's just the
[26:46] harmonics of the brakes there's nothing
[26:48] wrong with them that's just the way that
[26:49] they are they're basically racing brakes
[26:51] for the streets so when the Porsche 991
[26:54] came out it was an NA motor so naturally
[26:57] aspirated motor with the 991.2 all 911s
[27:00] became turbocharged now you would think
[27:02] that that's a great thing because
[27:04] throughout the history the Porsche 911
[27:05] Turbo has been the king of the hill but
[27:07] believe it or not there's actually mixed
[27:09] opinions about turbos being standard on
[27:11] all Porche 911s well it's very simple
[27:14] the turbos act basically as a muffler
[27:16] and it changes the sound of the Porsche
[27:18] 911s
[27:22] engine but there are a lot of advantages
[27:24] to the 991.2 specifically power on paper
[27:28] it looks like you're getting only a
[27:29] little bump in power but what you're
[27:31] really getting is a lot of torque so the
[27:33] engine is a lot more usable in Daily
[27:35] driving the turbo spool up super fast
[27:38] and there's a very little turbo lag and
[27:40] if you need more power it's a lot less
[27:42] expensive to tune a turbo engine than a
[27:44] naturally aspirated
[27:47] engine because you can easily up the
[27:49] Boost with a simple tune and get an
[27:51] extra 100 horsepower you don't even have
[27:53] that option on the naturally aspirated
[27:55] engine and the 991.1 and a version of
[27:57] the engine keeps on living in the new
[27:59] Porsche 992 carplay it's still kind of
[28:02] laggy to be honest with you so I don't
[28:04] even count that the real reason to get a
[28:06] 991.2 is the rear steering that rear
[28:09] steering makes a 991 drive a lot smaller
[28:12] than the earlier models that don't have
[28:14] the rear steering what it essentially
[28:15] does is make the car feel like it has a
[28:17] shorter wheelbase that's what everybody
[28:19] has always loved about the Porsche 911
[28:21] it's short wheel base and not just
[28:23] because it's smaller but because when
[28:24] you have a short wheel basee Everything
[28:26] feels more immediate and so by for of
[28:28] doing this kind of Wizardry and creating
[28:30] this rear wheel of steering the car
[28:32] feels a lot more immediate when you're
[28:33] turning on the highway when you're
[28:35] hitting a bank or in a parking lot that
[28:37] one thing has made the electronic
[28:39] steering on the newer generation 991s a
[28:42] pleasure to have it'll never have the
[28:44] feel of a hydraulic steering but it's so
[28:46] much more precise with the rear steering
[28:48] that it makes it almost worth it almost
[28:50] I still prefer the hydraulic steering on
[28:51] the older porches the best thing is that
[28:54] it is such an advanced car and it hides
[28:57] it all on underneath is incredible
[28:59] Bodywork nobody will suspect the amount
[29:01] of engineering that has gone into a
[29:03] portion one if they see it drive by you
[29:05] only really start seeing the engineering
[29:07] when you drive it and after 30 years
[29:09] pass that the car is still ticking we've
[29:11] got One Life to Live and it's too short
[29:12] to drive boring cars find the nicest one
[29:14] you can find and enjoy the extraordinary
[29:17] the Porsche 9/11's 992s sculpted curves
[29:20] and roaring engine is not just about
[29:23] having fun in many cases it's also about
[29:26] turning a profit or at the very least
[29:28] not losing any money the Porsche 911 is
[29:31] not a normal car and the values explain
[29:34] this think of it as art with a Twist
[29:36] since I've had Porche since I was 17
[29:38] years old I've seen everything go up and
[29:40] down I see so many videos online about
[29:42] the depreciation curves the ups and
[29:44] downs how the resale of the poros are it
[29:47] kind of makes you think are these people
[29:49] thinking in terms of days or weeks or
[29:51] months it does not make any sense don't
[29:54] get me wrong it might make sense for
[29:55] dealers which are flipping cars but the
[29:58] average Enthusiast is looking to buy and
[30:00] hold if the prices go up and down a
[30:02] couple percentage points in the span of
[30:04] a year it does not affect most Porsche
[30:07] owners that being said it's always good
[30:09] to have an exit strategy and also what
[30:12] could be funner than enjoying a car for
[30:14] a period of time and then selling it for
[30:16] more so in many ways it's a double the
[30:18] fun but before we dive in make sure to
[30:21] hit the Subscribe button and the
[30:22] notification Bell drop a like and let's
[30:25] Embark into this journey of fun and a
[30:27] little bit of financial foresight you've
[30:30] got to remember that everybody who's
[30:32] ever purchased a Porsche 911 brand new
[30:34] has wanted it ever since they were a
[30:36] little kid it was not an Impulse buy
[30:38] when they were growing up they had one
[30:40] or two of these and if they were extra
[30:42] cool they had a 928 so by the time that
[30:45] they're looking to actually option out
[30:46] the car they've already had the car in
[30:48] their head for decades and they're going
[30:50] to order exactly how they want it this
[30:52] is one of the advantages of porsa not
[30:54] changing the design the car you wanted
[30:57] when you were 5 years old is still the
[30:59] car that you're going to want when
[31:00] you're 60 so this huge advantage that
[31:02] Porsche has means that almost every kid
[31:05] wants a Porsche 911 but they want it
[31:07] just a little bit different and that's
[31:09] where the options come in Porsche NOS
[31:12] exactly like Ferrari which also puts the
[31:14] options on a plaque in the car that in
[31:16] the secondary Market the options are
[31:18] what sell a car so obviously the limited
[31:21] edition models are usually the ones that
[31:23] automatically start going up and what I
[31:25] mean by automatically as in the
[31:26] depreciation curve really does not
[31:28] affect them these cars are sold at the
[31:30] dealership and usually stored away
[31:32] because they immediately start going up
[31:34] in value and the moment that any
[31:36] specific model is discontinued if it's a
[31:38] limited edition the prices in many cases
[31:41] double you can option it out any color
[31:43] you want and wrap every single piece of
[31:46] plastic in that car with leather even
[31:48] the buttons now it sounds extravagant
[31:51] but fast for 20 years the cars that are
[31:54] optioned out with a crazy colors and
[31:56] crazy options are the ones that command
[31:59] all the headlines and this trend is only
[32:01] growing so you might spend an extra 30
[32:03] or $40,000 on options but if you ever do
[32:06] sell the car in 10 15 20 years you've
[32:09] got something that is so special that
[32:11] everybody's going to want and it's going
[32:12] to be very easy to sell because there's
[32:15] not another one like it on the used car
[32:17] market and this is the trend that has
[32:18] been happening with Porsche 911s ever
[32:20] since the 80s it's just getting a lot
[32:23] more now beyond the crazy option cars
[32:26] the one thing that really doesn't cost
[32:28] anything to guarantee that the Porsche
[32:30] 911 992 that you're purchasing maintains
[32:33] its value far higher than all the other
[32:35] ones is going with the manual
[32:37] transmission and yes I know that the pdk
[32:40] is a far superior than the manual it's
[32:42] faster and in many cases far more
[32:44] reliable because you really can't miss a
[32:46] shift but better and faster does not
[32:48] equate a higher resell now there's a lot
[32:50] of theories on this why would a
[32:52] technically Superior Car be worth less A
[32:55] lot's got to do with the perception look
[32:57] on the auto Trader cars.com everywhere
[32:59] when you see pdk equipped cars it shows
[33:02] as automatic it's so much so that
[33:05] Porsche even changed the automatic lever
[33:07] on his GT3 to make it look like if it
[33:10] were a stick shift car this was the only
[33:12] reason they changed it so if you don't
[33:14] want to spend a lot on options but you
[33:15] still want to guarantee that your
[33:17] Porsche maintains a really high resale
[33:20] value just get the manual it's really
[33:22] easy to drive the clutch is super light
[33:26] it's it's it's almost like it's not even
[33:28] there believe me after the warrant's
[33:32] expired on the Porche 992 how is it
[33:34] going to behave well there's already a
[33:35] lot of cars on the road that tell us
[33:37] exactly how it is because the Porsche 92
[33:39] has a version of the Porsche 91's engine
[33:41] which has a version of the Porsche
[33:44] 997.2 engine those engin have been very
[33:47] reliable if you keep them stock if you
[33:49] start boosting them which is very easy
[33:51] to do by the way and don't upgrade the
[33:53] cooling system you're going to have
[33:55] issues like this
[34:02] and if you're the type of person that
[34:04] likes to take it to the dealership to
[34:05] get it fixed you're also going to have
[34:07] issues like this
[34:10] $883
[34:12] 25 to do this job now it's not as bad as
[34:16] it sounds you got to remember that
[34:17] theaters ships make their money with
[34:19] parts and labor in their service
[34:20] department so this price is what it is
[34:22] it wouldn't be the real price to get a
[34:24] Turbo fixed it's just a couple bolts and
[34:26] a swap so don't let this scare you the
[34:27] engines are rock solid and there are
[34:29] many 997 do2s and 991s already with over
[34:33] 200,000 Mi running trouble-free you see
[34:35] what I mean about the Porsche 992 being
[34:38] on the road for a very long time you
[34:40] can't do the depreciation math with 12
[34:42] or 24 months it doesn't make any sense
[34:45] as far as the life of the car the
[34:46] Porsche 992 is going to be on the road a
[34:48] long time many people say today the same
[34:51] thing that they used to say even when
[34:52] aircool 911s were new these cars will
[34:55] not appreciate how the older generation
[34:57] pora do this keeps happening over and
[34:59] over again realistically the Porsche 911
[35:01] 992 is going to be on the streets for
[35:04] the next 50 years and it's going to go
[35:07] through a lot of up and downs regardless
[35:09] of the economy because Styles and tastes
[35:12] change you've got to think longterm 10
[35:14] 15 20 years on the line in the early
[35:16] 2000s the Porsche 964 was selling in the
[35:19] teens and I remember that they were very
[35:22] difficult to sell everybody saw them as
[35:24] old and almost irrelevant look at it now
[35:27] it has become to many the ultimate
[35:30] Porsche to have and the prices totally
[35:32] match it the Porsche 996 for many years
[35:35] sold for below average because of its
[35:37] headlights but now the headlights are
[35:39] retr cool the Porsche 96 now is where
[35:42] the Porsche 964 was in the early 2000s
[35:45] under appreciated time to snap those up
[35:48] can the Porsche 992 ever be collectible
[35:51] considering that there are so many of
[35:53] them being made it's a simple yes and
[35:55] it's all about the demographics more
[35:58] people know about the Porsche 9911 now
[36:00] than they did when I was younger when
[36:01] the Porsche 993 came out I knew about it
[36:04] because I was obsessed with cars but
[36:05] most people did not know what it was
[36:07] even the kids in my high school didn't
[36:09] know what it was and they had no way of
[36:11] finding out what it was but today
[36:13] everybody knows what a pora 911 is that
[36:15] means your aunt your dad your brother
[36:18] even your abolita knows what a Porche
[36:20] 911 is so the demand is increasing
[36:23] relative to the cars being made that's
[36:25] why Porsche has taken the 911 more up
[36:28] Market because it can and the fact that
[36:30] it stays relatively the same means that
[36:33] brand awareness keeps going up so it's
[36:35] got time on its side and this doesn't
[36:37] happen with Ferraris and McLaren that
[36:39] they're constantly changing the broader
[36:41] Market really doesn't know what they're
[36:43] looking at when they see one of them
[36:45] they might think it's a Corvette so
[36:46] Porsche charges superar money because
[36:49] more people know there's also more
[36:51] porsia events all around the world than
[36:53] there are of any other make Ferrari
[36:56] included this means that when you
[36:57] purchase a Porche 911 992 you're
[37:00] actually buying into a community of
[37:02] really cool people that are down to
[37:03] earth and just love cars and it's all
[37:06] about branding they even built a tower
[37:08] here in Miami too much well that
[37:11] branding is what's going to guarantee
[37:13] that any Porsche 911 992 that you
[37:15] purchase will have an ultimate resale
[37:18] value versus any other car that you can
[37:20] purchase in this price range Porsche
[37:22] really knows what they're doing
[37:24] especially the past 20 years so will you
[37:26] like the Porsche 992 in a year after
[37:28] you've purchased it yes this is the last
[37:32] of the old school Porsches this is the
[37:34] ultimate air cool 911s for a lot of
[37:37] people around the world this is the
[37:39] Porsche 964 and this is the Porsche that
[37:42] a lot of people still don't understand
[37:44] why is it so popular why have the prices
[37:46] escalated and will you get burned if you
[37:49] buy one let's find out now this is one
[37:51] of my favorite portions of all time just
[37:54] enough of old air cooled field with
[37:56] enough modern conveniences to be able to
[37:58] drive it every single day so that it
[38:00] doesn't collect dust in the garage and
[38:02] maybe it's perfect for you too but first
[38:04] don't forget to like And subscribe it
[38:06] really does help push this video out to
[38:08] more people around the world so that
[38:09] more people can know about how good the
[38:10] Porche 964 is growing up the Porche 964
[38:13] to me was one of the coolest Porsches
[38:15] that I ever saw on the road and is
[38:17] incredible how much Porsches have
[38:18] changed since the 964 before seeing a
[38:20] Porsche on the road even here in Miami
[38:22] was an event people will stop you at gas
[38:25] stations to ask you about the car you
[38:26] will get a lot of looks as you're
[38:28] driving by now that was back in the day
[38:30] when these cars were new now it's
[38:31] Amplified even more let's just say if
[38:34] you like driving Incognito stay away
[38:36] from the Porsche 964 this car draws a
[38:38] crowd wherever it goes and it's not just
[38:41] about looks this is a bank fault on
[38:43] Wheels and more than Bank fault because
[38:45] there's a lot of cars that feel solid
[38:47] but they're big the Porsche 964 being
[38:49] one of the last old school porsa has a
[38:52] level of concentrated mass that adds to
[38:54] its specialness nothing feels like an
[38:57] old School classic 911 but the Porsche
[38:59] 964 is not old school you see that car
[39:02] was significantly changed from the
[39:04] earlier year 911 but is more than just
[39:06] extra comfort that this car has versus
[39:08] the earlier one now if you're like me
[39:10] you love Porsche 964 but are they worth
[39:12] all this height how popular is the
[39:14] Porsche 964 exactly I can give you an
[39:17] example if a Porsche 964 is for sale
[39:19] here in Miami it's not going to be a
[39:21] local sale chances are that car is
[39:23] leaving Miami and it's going to Dubai
[39:25] somewhere in California or it's exotic
[39:28] location all around the world so sales
[39:29] of Porsche 964 are usually not local
[39:32] sales the buyers for Porsche 964
[39:34] typically don't shop around their area
[39:36] and so this is driving up the prices in
[39:38] ways that could not have been predicted
[39:40] 20 years ago the good thing about the
[39:41] Porsche 964 is that if you're looking at
[39:43] these prices and thinking to yourself
[39:45] well I had a poster of this car as a kid
[39:47] I'm scared if I buy it it's not going to
[39:49] be as good as what I think is going to
[39:51] be if you've never driven a Porsche 964
[39:54] let me tell you that's not a concern
[39:56] with these cars most people people are
[39:58] incredibly surprised of the disconnect
[40:00] about how they think the car is versus
[40:02] how it actually is you see if you've
[40:04] only seen this car on a poster on
[40:07] pictures and never actually driven it
[40:09] you're going to be really surprised it
[40:10] feels and drives a lot better than what
[40:13] you would imagine and of course if you
[40:15] do you've got the air cooled 911 bug and
[40:17] you know it's going to be expensive but
[40:19] how expensive well there are some things
[40:20] that you can't get away from the
[40:22] purchase price luckily with the way the
[40:23] market is on these cars and it's not
[40:26] just a local market it's it's a
[40:27] worldwide Market the chances of losing
[40:29] your shirt on a Porche 964 it's very
[40:31] rare so you can buy it enjoy it for a
[40:33] couple years and then sell it for the
[40:35] same or more what you don't want to do
[40:37] is buy a car that you think it's perfect
[40:40] but turns out that it needs a lot of
[40:42] work a lot of expensive work cuz nothing
[40:45] is cheap in this car so let's dig into
[40:47] what to look for you're looking to
[40:48] purchase a Porsche 964 or if you
[40:50] actually have one parked in your
[40:51] driveway there's no way around that you
[40:53] need to know what you need to know about
[40:55] this car so let's dive in now when
[40:56] you're looking at at the Porsche 964
[40:58] Market you're actually stepping into an
[41:00] alternate reality you see no car that
[41:02] I've seen is stripped apart faster and
[41:05] over restored than a Porsche 964 so the
[41:08] owners are very meticulous about
[41:10] Restorations and originality not
[41:12] counting of course the updates and the
[41:14] back dat and all of these subcategories
[41:16] so if the body happens to need
[41:17] restoration believe me you can
[41:19] definitely find somebody to do an entire
[41:21] nut and bolt restoration on a 964 it's
[41:24] done all the time however it's very
[41:26] expensive and and timec consuming you
[41:28] can easily spend 2 years getting it
[41:30] right if that's not you then pay
[41:32] attention to this the Porsche 964 body
[41:34] is fully galvanized however that does
[41:37] not guarantee that this car is rust free
[41:39] since the Porche 964 begs to go to the
[41:41] track a lot have been taken to the track
[41:43] many times and many times I mean just
[41:45] once a month or twice a month but you
[41:47] add years to that and the possibility of
[41:49] any 964 getting in a small Bender Bender
[41:52] the odds are increased exponentially
[41:53] this means that looking for rust or
[41:55] bubbling of the paint is is hugely
[41:57] important if you want to do an entire
[41:59] restoration so you should see no rust
[42:02] anywhere in the body except a few areas
[42:04] that I give a pass to because it affects
[42:07] a lot of them and they haven't been
[42:08] crashed specifically around the
[42:10] windshield since the glass is not bonded
[42:12] to the chassis as the seal shrinks water
[42:14] seeps in and just chills in the little
[42:16] crevices around the outside rust starts
[42:18] forming in these areas very quickly I
[42:20] know cars that have had this repaired
[42:22] two or three times already it's a
[42:24] relatively straightforward fix however
[42:26] it if you don't address it the rust most
[42:28] definitely will spread so if you're
[42:30] looking to buy a Porche 964 and you see
[42:32] rust definitely budget that in but also
[42:34] remember that if you see rust around
[42:36] these areas that's usually not a sign of
[42:38] neglect it just happens with these cars
[42:40] now however there is one asteris to add
[42:42] to this if you're looking to get a 964
[42:45] RS that's a beast of a car right well
[42:48] that car is special not just in the way
[42:50] that it drives or that the body is seam
[42:53] welded no the rust proofing was almost
[42:55] completely eliminated from the factory
[42:57] so these are far more likely to rust if
[43:00] you don't baby them and what I mean baby
[43:02] as in garage drive right back to garage
[43:05] so much so that Porsche cut down the
[43:08] corrosion warranty from 10 years down to
[43:10] 3 years on the RS models they obviously
[43:12] know something that you should also be
[43:14] very careful with the rs's check them
[43:16] extra well and if you're fortunate
[43:18] enough to have one of these beautiful
[43:19] cars parked in your home don't even Park
[43:21] in on wet grass for extended amount of
[43:23] time the wet grasses mm- not good on to
[43:26] the next point a lot of these cars live
[43:28] parked now you think to yourself how can
[43:30] anybody enjoy a parked car well let me
[43:32] tell you that I do just looking at a
[43:34] parked car for me is enjoyable so these
[43:35] are not abandoned cars it's just cars
[43:38] that are not as driven as much and what
[43:40] happens when you don't really drive a
[43:42] Porsche 964 I will say specifically
[43:44] anything over 24 months the brake
[43:46] calipers start seizing up with the
[43:48] quickness and again this is not a sign
[43:50] of neglect this is just a sign of nonuse
[43:52] and if there's moisture in the air the
[43:54] calibers can seize up so much that they
[43:56] will need a full rebuild I wouldn't hold
[43:57] this against any car because it's been
[43:59] parked however you've got a budget that
[44:01] in the calipers are aluminum the
[44:03] stainless steel thrust plates collect
[44:05] dust and road salt or air salt and that
[44:08] can lead to some serious corrosion that
[44:10] you don't immediately see 2 3 months
[44:12] after you've driven the car it takes a
[44:13] couple months for this to really start
[44:15] seasoning up the calibers from my
[44:16] experience 24 months a car parked here
[44:19] in Miami I'm pulling Wheels check the
[44:21] brakes because the brakes seizing is one
[44:23] of the biggest things that happens with
[44:24] these cars that are purchased and not
[44:26] really driven that much the suspension
[44:28] on the other hand they last a long time
[44:30] 100,000 Mi and you still won't get
[44:31] clicks or clunks in this suspension so
[44:34] that's a lot easier to diagnose a dragon
[44:36] brake caliber is to be expected I
[44:38] wouldn't hold it against the car I would
[44:39] just budget it in on to next point when
[44:41] you're looking to buy any por 64 the
[44:43] most common advice that you usually hear
[44:45] is check the record and I agree with
[44:47] this I like to see a stack of Records
[44:49] going all the way back when the car
[44:51] first came out of the dealership however
[44:53] the records on the 964 might not be 100%
[44:57] % accurate what do I mean the
[44:58] speedometer gauge pulls right out and so
[45:02] yeah I'm not going so much for the mouse
[45:03] I mean you can and it's good as far as
[45:05] the history and the value of the car you
[45:07] know you've got your Carfax you've got
[45:09] all of that and so you want to have a
[45:10] natural progression of Miles like for
[45:12] example I've seen many cars with 30,000
[45:15] mies and they have seats like this and I
[45:18] could just tell by the side that that
[45:19] car easily has over 150,000 Mi so you
[45:22] actually have to go by the condition of
[45:23] the car and since when you're looking to
[45:25] buy a Porche 964 are it's not going to
[45:27] be in your local area you might be 1,000
[45:30] or 3,000 Mi away it gets really tricky
[45:32] ideally you have a sack of Records you
[45:34] have a phone number of the latest shop
[45:36] that service the car you can call the
[45:38] shop and if the shop remembers and knows
[45:40] the car that's as good as gold remember
[45:42] that however that's not always a
[45:44] possibility so in cases like this where
[45:46] you really don't know the car you really
[45:48] don't know the seller there's actually
[45:50] Services of Porsche Enthusiast that will
[45:52] fly to the car inspect the car for you
[45:54] for a fee and give you a report tag
[45:56] somebody in the comments below if you
[45:57] know anybody now this might seem extreme
[45:59] but having a Porsche 964 expert look at
[46:03] the car is worth more than 10 ppis let
[46:06] me explain yes it might be a little bit
[46:08] expensive relative to a regular
[46:10] pre-purchase inspection but if you just
[46:12] factor in the price of a headlight or
[46:14] respraying a rear bumper or any little
[46:16] thing on this car done right you've more
[46:18] than covered Yourself by sending an
[46:20] expert in there that really knows what
[46:22] they're looking at to look at your
[46:23] potential Porsche 964 believe me it's
[46:25] worth it I've seen people buy perfect
[46:28] Porsche 964 only to have them delivered
[46:31] back to their home and the project start
[46:33] don't do that get informed or find
[46:36] somebody that really knows Porsche 964
[46:38] and have them inspect the car for you
[46:41] the records are nice however they're not
[46:43] the end all and be all by a huge stretch
[46:45] on to next Point engines the Porsche 964
[46:48] is 3.6 L air cooled Flat 6 is an
[46:51] unbelievable Symphony Of Sound now if
[46:54] you're really picky about sound this car
[46:56] is like the full meal especially with
[46:59] exhaust however it's not perfect I
[47:01] remember all the way back in the 1990s
[47:04] when I got my first Porsche me and my
[47:05] brother would go to local shops here in
[47:07] Miami and dig the owner's brains about
[47:09] these cars my brother's an engineer so a
[47:11] lot of the things came naturally to him
[47:13] not to me as much but there is one thing
[47:15] that was an overwhelming response to the
[47:17] Porsche 964 they drive great they're
[47:20] really fun and they leak oil as a matter
[47:21] of fact if it's not leaking oil chances
[47:23] are it doesn't have oil and that's just
[47:25] part of it a lot of the tiny microscopic
[47:27] oil leaks are actually hidden by the
[47:29] under trays these under trays hide a lot
[47:31] of potential leaks so the only real way
[47:33] to trace oil leaks is to put it on a
[47:36] lift just like every single aircool 911
[47:38] and on a lift you can really diagnose if
[47:40] you have a potential oil leak however
[47:42] this car is going to leak oil and it's
[47:44] okay it's not a big deal the engines are
[47:46] really robust and they take a pounding
[47:49] now leaking oil and consuming oil are
[47:51] two totally different things but guess
[47:53] what these 3.6 engines also consume oil
[47:56] as a matter of fact Porsche has in their
[47:58] guidelines an allowable amount of oil
[48:00] usage that the airod 3.6 engines are
[48:03] allowed it being a flat 6 engine if a
[48:05] car has been parked for a while when you
[48:06] first turn around in the morning you
[48:08] might get a beautiful plume of white
[48:10] smoke that signifies oh no it's burning
[48:12] oil it's not if you just get it on the
[48:14] startup and it clears out that's natural
[48:17] however if you keep getting that
[48:19] beautiful white smoke then chances are
[48:21] it needs a bit more looking into when
[48:23] the Porsche 964 came out Porsche did not
[48:25] use gaskets between the cylinders And
[48:27] the cylinder head they instead used
[48:29] metal to metal contact and when these
[48:31] heads are torqued down you know
[48:33] Distortion is going to happen and if
[48:34] Distortion happens leaks happen and if
[48:37] the Distortion is enough you're going to
[48:38] lose compression the reduction of
[48:40] compression is the one thing that I
[48:42] would really watch out for even in 1990
[48:44] pora put a larger seating surface and
[48:46] seating rig to a lot of people cured the
[48:48] problem however it did not go away a lot
[48:51] of cars have been retrofitted but the
[48:53] leaks are there it's just part of the
[48:54] deal also it's important to know that
[48:56] oil leaks can come from anywhere in the
[48:57] engine and they often do but in most
[48:59] cases they're relatively small the thing
[49:01] is that they just add all up and if
[49:03] you've got to pull the engine to fix a
[49:05] little oil leak believe me you're not
[49:07] looking at a bill of changing a small
[49:09] oil leak because once the engine is out
[49:11] you might as well do everything that
[49:12] needs to be done to the 911 and usually
[49:14] the list is long so a little bit of oil
[49:16] leaking is normal however not to the
[49:18] point where the car is actually losing
[49:20] compression so checking the compression
[49:21] on all cylinders is the first thing to
[49:24] check on a Porsche 964 Flat 6 engine
[49:26] that was will tell you the real health
[49:28] of the engine so if you want to avoid
[49:30] that situation make sure the car is
[49:32] truly inspected by somebody that knows
[49:34] air cool 911 otherwise the car is going
[49:36] to be out of the road in the shop
[49:38] getting refreshed for quite a while the
[49:40] other thing that I would check for is
[49:42] the Dual Distributors if they're both
[49:44] firing you see because there are two
[49:45] spark plugs per cylinder and it's got
[49:47] two Distributors linked and th
[49:49] synchronized by a tooth rubber belt this
[49:51] belt can break leading to just one plug
[49:54] per cylinder firing and you know what
[49:56] you you can't always tell yes it can
[49:58] make it feel uneven or have flat spots
[50:00] in the RPM range but I know somebody
[50:02] that was driving around with a broken
[50:04] belt for over 2 years and did not notice
[50:07] as far as they're concerned their car
[50:08] was driving as good as new that's not
[50:10] good this obviously can lead to
[50:12] predetonation and that means blown
[50:14] cylinder head SEALS or Worse that's also
[50:16] an easy check that's not immediately
[50:18] obvious from any test drive unless
[50:20] somebody that really knows these cars is
[50:21] driving it on to the next point the Dual
[50:23] Mass flywheel on the manuals it actually
[50:26] makes it really smooth think of it as
[50:27] rubber in the flywheel and that's
[50:29] exactly what it is so this time in
[50:31] Porsche's history Porsche was trying to
[50:32] make their cars smoother and quieter as
[50:35] a matter of fact that's one of the
[50:36] reasons that the 96 came out the CEO at
[50:38] the time thought that nobody was going
[50:40] to pay more money for cars that were
[50:41] really loud and not as refined so in
[50:44] this quest to really refine the Porsche
[50:47] 964 they added this dual Mass flywheel
[50:49] with a rubber dampner and like anything
[50:52] rubber it first starts getting hard it
[50:54] starts cracking and then ironically
[50:56] after not much abuse you actually have a
[50:58] car that's clunking far more than a car
[51:01] than it just had a normal flywheel if
[51:02] you got to change the flywheel you can't
[51:04] do it with the engine inside so that
[51:05] means that if you can't do it yourself
[51:06] you've got to pay for the labor to go
[51:07] ahead and drop the engine to change out
[51:09] the clutch and flywheel a lot of people
[51:10] go with the lightweight RS flywheels
[51:12] which I personally like because it makes
[51:14] the engine rev a lot faster in a way a
[51:17] lot smoother as you're accelerating
[51:18] through the gears but not smooth as in
[51:20] heavy smooth I mean smooth as in eager
[51:23] smoothness and that's what the
[51:24] lightweight flywheel gives you the
[51:25] engine feels stronger and to me the
[51:27] engine feels like it's picked up an easy
[51:29] 30 40 horsepower feel and feel at the
[51:32] end of the day is all that matters at
[51:33] least to me on to next point the
[51:35] Tiptronic transmission now the Tiptronic
[51:37] transmission is a torque converter
[51:39] transmission so it's a conventional
[51:41] transmission and guess what it's great
[51:43] it really is it's not as engaging as the
[51:45] manuals but if you would read the test
[51:48] drives on this transmission back in the
[51:49] day everyone was like wow this
[51:52] transmission really takes a 964 to the
[51:54] next level now of course the driving
[51:56] enjoyment is not the same as the manuals
[52:00] however just driving an aircool 911 is
[52:02] enough for a lot of people believe me it
[52:04] really is so the automatic transmissions
[52:06] them being great they're also very
[52:08] reliable and they don't sap that much
[52:10] fun from the 964 so no bashing of the
[52:13] automatic because you know what one day
[52:15] every single one of us is going to get
[52:16] to a point where we really can't be
[52:18] shifting as much and just the fact you
[52:20] have the option of getting an automatic
[52:22] to enjoy an air cooled 911 is incredible
[52:26] for a lot of lot of people it's the
[52:27] automatic or nothing it's good and
[52:30] nobody should knock it on to the next
[52:31] Point buying modified cars now I
[52:34] understand that modifying is half the
[52:36] fun for a lot of people however when the
[52:38] time comes to sell when somebody's
[52:40] looking to buy a Porsche 964 they're
[52:42] looking at the poster this is what they
[52:45] have in their brain right here this is
[52:47] it anything that deviates from this the
[52:49] value you know I don't want to say the
[52:51] value because there's always a buyer for
[52:52] the car let's just say the pool of
[52:54] buyers is far less because you could
[52:57] have a really cool car but it might be
[53:00] cool to some people but not other people
[53:02] so this is something that most people
[53:04] that have owned many porsa know that
[53:06] whenever you even change the radio from
[53:08] the original Porsche unit when you do
[53:10] that you'll get better sound better
[53:12] everything however when the time comes
[53:14] to sell the buyer is not thinking wow
[53:16] great music the buyer is thinking what
[53:18] happened to the wiry what's going on
[53:21] inside there thinking about the
[53:22] liability of course so if you're looking
[53:24] to sell original is a 100 times better
[53:28] than modified if you're looking to buy
[53:30] remember that what I'm saying here is
[53:32] obvious to a lot of people and you're
[53:33] always going to pay a premium for
[53:35] originality however a lot of cars look
[53:38] original but they're not they were
[53:39] modified brought back to original and
[53:41] modified yet again this means that you
[53:43] really need to have an expert take a
[53:45] look at the car because it might look
[53:46] beautiful in pictures however in person
[53:49] you can tell it's been fooled around
[53:50] with and only the eye of somebody that
[53:52] obsesses over these cars can really tell
[53:55] in 10 seconds so if you can can find
[53:56] somebody that really knows these cars to
[53:58] take a look at them to see if they're
[53:59] really original that's worth its price
[54:01] and gold on to next one if you live in
[54:03] hot places like Miami all you really
[54:05] care about is the AC going to cool are
[54:07] you going to be sweating your off or are
[54:09] you actually going to be able to drive
[54:10] it and not arrive drenched one of the
[54:12] great things about Porsche 964 is that
[54:15] those are actually the ones that you see
[54:16] in Miami because it's hot and the air
[54:19] conditioner work you rarely see any air
[54:21] cooled 911s here in Miami unless they're
[54:24] 964 and up and the main reason reason is
[54:26] AC AC down here is like uh yeah it's
[54:29] like life support especially when it
[54:31] gets really really hot in traffic when
[54:33] there is no breeze so to get the benefit
[54:35] of the 964 completely revised HVAC
[54:38] system it needs to be R12 if you follow
[54:42] advice from magazines like this and go
[54:46] with the R134 it's just not going to
[54:48] cool as good specifically the cool down
[54:50] time you're going to be in there
[54:51] sweating until it starts cooling down
[54:54] little by little and you're just going
[54:55] to be like m this is not good this
[54:57] revised AC systems in the 964 was
[55:00] designed to run R12 not R134 the cooling
[55:04] is going to go way way down and this is
[55:06] super important not just for hot weather
[55:08] because the compressor should also be on
[55:10] when you're turning on the heater
[55:11] because the compressor dries the air
[55:14] inside the cabin so whenever you see
[55:15] conversion kits that say oh this kit
[55:18] converts your R12 to 134 all that is is
[55:22] just a little cap so you could put the
[55:23] new gas in nothing's been converted it's
[55:25] a r R12 system so if you want to have a
[55:28] good time with your 964 take it on road
[55:30] trips for thousands of miles and arrive
[55:32] in comfort as it was designed to do in
[55:34] the 964 R12 it's where it's at you can
[55:37] still buy it the only thing with the R12
[55:39] is that they just don't make it anymore
[55:41] but guess what they made so much of it
[55:42] that is still available to purchase on
[55:44] to the next one so the Porsche 964 being
[55:46] a really emotional car if you're going
[55:48] into it clearheaded and knowing exactly
[55:50] what you're getting you ensure that your
[55:52] emotions with this car is 100% positive
[55:55] as a matter of fact it might be the one
[55:57] car that you really want to keep forever
[55:59] however on the flip side if you have a
[56:01] bad experience because you didn't do
[56:03] your due diligence and had a solid pre-
[56:05] purchase inspection it can turn sour
[56:07] really quickly and from what I've seen
[56:09] most of the bad experiences that people
[56:11] have with pora 964 are from people that
[56:14] have gotten cars that have been
[56:15] neglected that have years of deferred
[56:17] maintenance and they think it's going to
[56:19] be perfect it's not it's going to have
[56:21] issues this was an expensive car when it
[56:23] was new and it's even more expensive now
[56:25] but the good thing is that whatever you
[56:27] spend on most aircool 911s usually when
[56:30] the time comes to sell you're able to
[56:31] get your money back if you do sell
[56:33] because usually when people buy a
[56:34] Porsche 964 it's the one they keep
[56:36] because there are few cars that are
[56:38] better in the driveway than in the
[56:40] poster and the Porsche 964 is definitely
[56:43] one of them that's the Porsche 964 used
[56:45] 993s regularly sell for over $100,000
[56:49] more selling for more than they did when
[56:52] they first came out into the showroom it
[56:54] looks expensive to anybody who doesn't
[56:56] understand what the air cooled 911
[56:58] market is when Porsche finished making
[56:59] the 993 they didn't replace that car the
[57:02] 993 is the last 911 so it's the last not
[57:06] just air cold because when you say it
[57:08] was the last Air Cold you're only
[57:09] talking about the engine no the entire
[57:11] car is the last of that era and it was
[57:13] never replaced all that move from that
[57:15] era to the new era is the badge and the
[57:18] naming for marketing purposes there is
[57:19] no a latest and greatest because that is
[57:22] the latest and greatest so since the car
[57:24] was never replaced everybody wants there
[57:26] is no comparable and that's driving up
[57:28] prices the 993 in particular is very
[57:31] interesting when you say Market forces
[57:33] drive up a car's price you can say that
[57:36] just about any used car that has gone up
[57:39] in value the air cooled 911s are
[57:41] different in that the demand is a
[57:43] recognition of the value that you get
[57:45] with those cars let me explain whenever
[57:47] you see Supply demand arguments used to
[57:50] describe a car's astronomical price
[57:52] going up is usually forces that are
[57:54] external there are a lot of classic cars
[57:57] that have gone up in value because of
[57:59] external forces pop culture a movie or
[58:01] several movies all of these external
[58:04] forces can get the car and raise its
[58:07] value regardless of the quality of the
[58:09] car and that happens a lot you see that
[58:11] everywhere in the used car market the
[58:13] reason that the 993 and aircool 911s but
[58:16] specifically the 993 are going up is
[58:18] because there was no replacement for
[58:20] that car that was the last the last of
[58:22] the last there was no cool movie that
[58:24] made his price go double no it has gone
[58:26] up because of the car and only the car
[58:29] now what do you mean the car well it's
[58:31] very interesting with this car Porsche
[58:33] in the early '90s was about to go
[58:34] bankrupt building cars like the 993 and
[58:38] the 928 so it cost them more money to
[58:41] build the car and get it to the showroom
[58:43] then what the car was actually selling
[58:44] for they were counting on variations and
[58:47] upsales in the options now a lot of
[58:49] manufactures do this but the 911 Wass
[58:51] Porsche's bread and butter by doing this
[58:53] with your main car you are at the line
[58:55] of Break Even or make profit and even
[58:58] when you do make money on the turbos on
[59:00] the higher end spec cars it's not a
[59:01] breakout profit so this was pora's
[59:03] situation all through the ' 80s and the
[59:05] '90s so much so that they almost went
[59:07] bankrupt building cars that are more
[59:10] expensive to make than what you're
[59:12] selling them for and that all changed
[59:14] with the boxer the boxer came in at just
[59:16] under 40,000 bucks in 1987 and the
[59:19] profit margin in the boxer was over 50%
[59:22] for Porsche now they're in business the
[59:23] end user was getting a Porsche
[59:25] experience experience for less money
[59:27] than the 911 so you can't keep a running
[59:29] company selling a product that you're
[59:30] losing money on and so they came out
[59:32] with the Boxster and it saved Porsche
[59:34] from going bankrupt and when the new
[59:35] 9911 came out after the 993 it only cost
[59:39] Porsha about 18% more to make a 911
[59:42] versus the Boxster but they were selling
[59:44] them at 9911 prices plus options of
[59:46] course it doesn't take a rocket
[59:48] scientist to tell you that you have two
[59:50] CS the 993 that Porsche was losing money
[59:52] on and the boxer which was a huge money
[59:54] maker and the 99 six so Porche went from
[59:57] almost being bankrupt to being the most
[59:59] profitable car company in the world with
[60:01] margins that are astronomical as a
[60:02] matter of fact they still are but after
[60:04] the dust has settled all that you're
[60:06] left with is the cars the actual product
[60:08] that was left by this switch from the
[60:10] old to the new and when you hold the
[60:12] product on itself one was a money maker
[60:14] for Porsche and one lost money for
[60:16] Porsche so now you can start seeing why
[60:19] the 993 is going up so much in value you
[60:21] get more for your money with that car
[60:24] even if you're paying over as new over
[60:27] sticker on a car that's almost 30 years
[60:28] old you're still getting more for your
[60:30] money than a newer 911 and you couldn't
[60:33] tell this from the road test at the time
[60:35] all the road test that came out at the
[60:37] time were glowing Praises for the new
[60:40] replacement a hair faster a little bit
[60:41] quieter stops a little bit better so the
[60:44] figures looked like if it was an upgrade
[60:46] and all it takes is just opening the
[60:48] door of a 993 I can do a 2our video
[60:50] about the 911
[60:53] store but there are also a whole bunch
[60:56] of other little things that are not as
[60:58] obvious as that bank fold door that that
[61:00] car has little things like the carpet
[61:03] the carpet on the 993 is sliver it from
[61:05] the factory it's almost like a lamb's
[61:07] wool and like that everything throughout
[61:09] the car the sea structures you remove
[61:11] the base of the seat on the 993 is the
[61:13] same one as the 928 made by ricaro it is
[61:17] overbuilt and expensive to make so how
[61:19] does that hold up over time you get in a
[61:22] 993 that has 100,000 Mi and you cannot
[61:25] tell that that car has that many miles
[61:27] it could have 200,000 Mi and is still in
[61:29] unbelievable condition because it holds
[61:31] up because Porche was losing money in
[61:33] that car bad for Porsche but it was
[61:35] great for the customer now since that
[61:36] car is gone they don't make it anymore
[61:38] the good thing is that you can still buy
[61:39] one and they're so overbuilt that it
[61:41] doesn't matter if it's almost 30 years
[61:43] old it's as good as new it is that
[61:45] impressive now people know what those
[61:46] cars are and they all want a little bit
[61:48] of 993 and I can't blame them the 993 is
[61:52] the most beautiful car that has ever
[61:54] been made period it's so beautiful that
[61:56] Porsche has been trying to get back to
[61:58] that 993 look with every model starting
[62:01] with the 997 The 997 looks more like a
[62:03] 993 the 991 even the new 992 has
[62:07] standard wide body that you should have
[62:08] to pay extra for very difficult in a new
[62:10] car with crash regulations so the car
[62:12] keeps getting bigger and bigger but not
[62:14] quite as beautiful as the 93 now the car
[62:16] is not only about build quality or looks
[62:18] however it is a big factor what makes
[62:20] the 993 so cool is that it's a 1960s car
[62:24] and it ended in the 99 3 you can get a
[62:26] door from a 1997 Porsche 993 and put it
[62:30] on a 1975 Porsche 911 it bolts on
[62:33] incredible so even though the structure
[62:35] is the same it was stiffened refined the
[62:38] suspension was completely redone several
[62:40] times especially for the 993 up from the
[62:43] 964 the engine kept getting bigger and
[62:46] bigger but it kept a lot of weird things
[62:48] so if you got floor hinged pedals like
[62:50] an old Beetle it's funny and since
[62:51] you're driving a 1960s car with modern
[62:54] Porsche performance you still have the
[62:56] big rmo brakes you still have that Flat
[62:58] 6 engine you still have that six-speed
[63:00] you have modern air conditioner so you
[63:02] can actually drive it and hop places
[63:04] like for example here in Miami you can
[63:06] daily drive that car and be entertained
[63:08] all the time that's part of the reason
[63:09] why those cars are so expensive you can
[63:11] use them every single day you don't have
[63:12] to use them only on the weekends the
[63:14] maintenance on that car is very low
[63:16] especially compared to the earlier
[63:18] aircooled 911s there's no Val
[63:19] adjustments remember it's Decades of
[63:21] refinement in that 993 engine and the
[63:24] brakes are almost comical more than
[63:25] sufficient for that car and it's got a
[63:27] six speeed but six is actually an
[63:29] acceleration gear because that car does
[63:31] top end in sixth gear not fifth so six
[63:34] is not an overdrive you have six usable
[63:36] gears now since Porsche was counting on
[63:38] making money on variations of the car
[63:41] and selling them for more countless
[63:42] variation of that car came out all-wheel
[63:44] drive convertibles Target turbo ybody
[63:47] add to that the list of options that you
[63:49] could have had any color anything as
[63:51] long as you paid for it that's how
[63:53] Porsche stayed afloat with the 993 and
[63:55] that's great for the the customer
[63:56] because there's so many versions of the
[63:57] 993 that there's something for everybody
[64:00] but the nicest ones you're going to pay
[64:01] the most for 993 turbos you're going to
[64:04] pay 993 wi bodies you're also going to
[64:07] pay and the only deals that you can
[64:08] possibly find on a 993 are going to be
[64:10] the convertibles and some of the target
[64:13] cuz the target are still super nice and
[64:14] that's to be understood because that all
[64:16] comes down to where you live if you live
[64:18] in Miami having a 993 convertible is 365
[64:21] day a year experience it's heaven but if
[64:24] you have it in Michigan where it's snows
[64:26] that heaven becomes a liability and it
[64:28] limits the use of the car remember these
[64:30] cars are daily drivers if you have to
[64:31] store the car you're storing the fund
[64:33] and of obviously the price goes down the
[64:35] prices relative to other porchas have
[64:37] stayed going up constantly except for
[64:40] one initial dip when the boxer and the
[64:42] 996 came out when those cars came out
[64:44] the marketing on the newer water cooled
[64:46] cars was overwhelming and the used
[64:49] prices especially on the basic 993s went
[64:51] down and stayed lower for a couple years
[64:54] I remember in the early 20
[64:56] you can get a 993s in the teens that
[64:58] doesn't exist today that was all the
[65:00] marketing that Porsche was pushing out
[65:02] with the newer cars a suppressed the
[65:04] market but obviously the cream has to
[65:06] rise to the top anyways and incept for
[65:07] that initial dip that maybe lasted 3 4
[65:10] years the prices started going up they
[65:12] might stall for a couple years and then
[65:14] back up again that's that car's market
[65:15] and I don't see that changing the car is
[65:17] not a marketing car the car is the real
[65:19] deal whatever you spend on that car your
[65:21] money secure so it's expensive but
[65:23] relative to what you could spend $45
[65:25] ,000 bucks on a new Minivan and in 5
[65:27] years you can't even give it away on a
[65:28] 993 you could spend $80 $100,000 enjoy
[65:32] the car for a couple years and then set
[65:33] it for the same or more and if anything
[65:36] that trend is going to accelerate
[65:38] because it's a usable investment not
[65:40] only the most beautiful car ever made it
[65:43] is the best investment regardless of
[65:45] price because you get to enjoy it as it
[65:48] stays or goes up in value and you can
[65:50] say that about all air cooled 911s but
[65:53] the 993 in particular now you know