[0:00] Kevin is one of my rivals. Could have [0:02] been better than he was because many [0:04] years he took like 6 [music] months off [0:05] and played in a rock band and didn't [0:06] even lift a weight and lost like 40-50 [0:09] lbs and he put it back all on again. So, [0:10] if he didn't [music] do that, he [0:11] potentially could have been better, but [0:13] he chose to do what he did. [0:14] >> Let's process this. He would finish [0:17] [music] the Mr. Olympia, he would do the [0:18] Mr. Olympia usually taking top four, [0:20] which is crazy because his best [0:22] competitive situation was in the [0:23] mid-90s, which as you guys know is kind [0:25] of one of the golden eras. Just legends, [0:27] just stacks of legends and Kevin was [0:29] well in the mix. [music] I mean, he beat [0:30] a ton of those guys. Kevin Levrone [0:32] probably has some of the best shoulders, [0:35] chest, and triceps ever [music] in the [0:38] history of the bodybuilding game. [0:42] >> [music] [0:45] >> Hey folks, Dr. Mike here for RP [0:47] Strength. I've been a long-time [0:49] professor of exercise and sport science [0:51] and a long-time bodybuilder. And I have [0:54] to admit that one of my top two [0:57] inspirational [music] [0:58] physiques of all time for me personally [1:02] is our video of the day, a Mr. Kevin [1:06] Levrone. I always pronounced it as [1:08] Levrone because I spent a lot of time in [1:11] Philadelphia. [1:12] >> [music] [1:12] >> And I would look at the last name and be [1:14] like, [1:15] from Levrone. [1:18] But, with all due respect, it is Levrone [1:20] as far as I can tell. Kevin Levrone [1:23] has taken second at the Mr. Olympia, I [1:25] believe off hand, four times. [1:28] And um I was going to say it wasn't for [1:30] lack of trying, but [music] we'll get to [1:32] that in a bit because Mr. Kevin Levrone [1:33] had a very interesting approach to [1:35] lifestyle and training [music] and diet [1:37] and being the man overall. Huge mega [1:39] props and respect up front. Let's dig [1:41] into some training and nutrition, Scott. [1:44] >> Yeah, yeah. [1:45] >> Yeah, do your job, Scott. [1:48] >> Kevin is one of my rivals from the '90s. [1:51] Could have been better than he was [1:53] because many years he took like 6 months [1:55] off and played in a rock band and didn't [1:56] even lift a weight and lost like 40-50 [1:58] lb and then put it back all on again. [2:00] So, if he didn't do that, he potentially [2:02] could have been better, but he chose to [2:03] do what he did. [2:05] >> Let's process this. He would finish the [2:08] Mr. Olympia, he would do the Mr. Olympia [2:09] usually taking top four, which is crazy [2:12] because his best competitive situation [2:14] was in the mid-90s, which as you guys [2:16] know is kind of one of the golden eras [2:18] of competitive bodybuilding in the pros [2:19] like Flex Wheeler, Ronnie Coleman, [2:22] Dorian Yates, Nasser El Sonbaty, Chris [2:25] Cormier. I mean like we just like [2:27] legends, just legends, just stacks of [2:29] legends and Kevin was well in the mix. I [2:31] mean like he beat a ton of those guys. [2:33] And then as soon as that was over in the [2:35] fall, he stopped lifting weights. [2:39] I know. [2:40] And he stopped taking steroids. And he [2:43] would go on tour with his rock band, [2:47] which I know from memory was called Full [2:49] Blown. You like that, Scott? Still know [2:51] that. [2:51] >> It's a double entendre. [2:53] >> Maybe. Kevin would compete at about 245 [2:57] lb on stage, shredded. [music] [2:59] He would come all the way down in many [3:01] instances to what I believe is about 205 [3:05] soft [snorts] pounds. [3:07] >> [music] [3:07] >> And then what he would do, about 6 [3:09] months-ish before the next Olympia, is [3:11] literally just click into place and [3:14] begin to live the bodybuilding lifestyle [3:18] full blown, no irony there. And that [3:21] combination would balloon him back up [3:23] and at the [music] same time shred him [3:25] down to a roughly 40 lb heavier physique [3:30] with something like, I don't know, [3:32] [music] 15 lb less absolute amount of [3:35] fat at the same time. So, here's what we [3:37] can take away from Kevin's insight. [3:39] >> [music] [3:40] >> One [3:41] is if you want to make your best gains [3:43] overall, you can't take 6 months off [3:47] every year. Not [music] going to happen. [3:48] However, [3:49] big insight here [3:51] is that with just 6 months of getting [3:54] back into training drugs and lifestyle, [3:56] he was able to build back every single [3:59] gram of muscle [4:02] and burn off every single gram of fat [4:04] that had switched their contexts over [4:06] the past 6 months. Once you achieve a [4:09] certain muscularity and a certain [4:11] leanness, [4:13] getting back to that muscularity and [4:15] leanness is like [4:18] an order of magnitude of factor of 10, [4:21] 10 times [4:23] easier than getting it for the first [4:25] time. This is incredible, incredible [4:29] news for all of us. You might have to go [4:31] on a long trip. [4:32] You might have to [4:34] go and do some other stuff in your life. [4:36] You might get hurt and have to take time [4:38] off to heal. And the reality that [4:40] presents us here today is [4:43] >> [music] [4:43] >> it takes months to get it back. By the [4:46] way, this works both with drugs and [4:48] without drugs. [music] Just a matter of [4:49] getting your diet and training locked [4:51] back in, you regain lost muscle so god [4:54] damn fast and it's not hard, it just [4:57] happens. The thing I'll tell you is [4:59] watch out for one big mistake. Your [5:02] muscles will grow stronger rapidly and [5:05] bigger rapidly and thus also stronger [5:07] again. [5:08] Your nervous system will make your [5:10] muscles be able to produce way more [5:12] force, way faster [5:14] than your tendons adapt. Resist the [5:17] temptation to go heavy early. After 3 or [5:19] 4 months, okay, yeah, then your tendons [5:21] are strong again, you can sort of do [5:22] normal stuff. It's a going to take that [5:24] long. So, yes, you can pull off what [5:26] Kevin Levrone did if you have to come [5:28] back after a long layoff and it's [5:30] amazing, amazing news, but don't you [5:32] dare rush back because that's how you [5:34] get snapped the fuck up. [5:35] >> Is there a place in your mind where you [5:37] think had I kept going all year round, [5:40] maybe I would have been better? [5:41] >> No. No. [5:42] >> You know that for certain? [5:43] >> Yeah, cuz when I did go, I went balls to [5:45] the wall for 4 My body was hurting. My [5:47] body was maxed out. There was times, [5:49] man, where I didn't think I was going to [5:51] make it, to be honest with you, because [5:53] I realized that my body was a hyper [5:55] responder, and I could gain muscle so [5:57] quick in such a short period of time. I [5:59] could go from 225 to 256. I was 256 at [6:03] the Arnold one year. [6:05] And I put on all that weight in 3 [6:07] months, [music] and it was muscle. I was [6:08] like, "This is crazy." Look, man, there [6:10] were times when my blood pressure was [6:12] up. I knew it was up. My body was just [6:14] transitioning so quick and so fast that [6:16] it was too much. Sometimes I would have [6:17] nosebleeds. I remember this. If I had [6:19] [music] a stayed on that pace all year [6:21] round, I wouldn't be here right now. [6:22] Guaranteed. Guaranteed. [6:27] >> Some folks do get banged up a lot of [6:30] training, and staying gigantic and [6:33] staying on tons of gear [6:35] does absolutely reduce your literal [6:37] lifespan and your bodybuilding lifespan. [6:40] So, [6:40] >> [music] [6:41] >> with Kevin coming down or off of the [6:43] gear entirely for 6 months every year, [6:45] that definitely almost certainly [6:47] extended his lifespan. I don't know if [6:48] replacing it with the rocker lifestyle [6:50] did a lot of favors there, but, you [6:51] know, you got to have some fun. But, [6:53] there is probably [6:54] uh some kind of third option there, [6:57] where training very smoothly and [7:00] lowering gear substantially, but still [7:02] training for maintenance, [7:03] maybe not getting down to 205 lb, but [7:06] getting down to 235 or something, [7:09] could have seen him come back more [7:11] slowly after that when you really crank [7:13] the gear and the training, [7:14] >> [music] [7:14] >> but um some people psychologically, you [7:17] know, they like the shit. They don't [7:19] love the shit. And so, after about 6 [7:22] months of hardcore prepping, they're [7:23] like, "Fuck this." And you got to [7:25] respect [music] that. As a human [7:26] individual, you know, technically [7:28] speaking, anytime you see anyone have [7:29] any kind of fun [music] [7:31] that doesn't comport 100% with [7:32] bodybuilding, you know, you could make [7:34] the critique that they could have been [7:35] better. And maybe that's a valid [7:36] critique. But, a human's going to human. [7:39] >> At 189 lb, I could bench press 405, you [7:44] know, clean and naturally. 405 without a [7:46] bench shirt. [7:47] >> I believe it. Let me say something that [7:49] I've said before, but it bears [7:50] repeating. [7:51] The spectrum of human genetics [7:53] >> [music] [7:53] >> is a lot wider than most people think. [7:55] There's not only just genetics for being [7:57] a baller early, but there's genetics for [7:59] adaptability. Kevin just kept growing. [8:01] [music] And the reason he was able to [8:03] bench so much isn't because I think he [8:04] had some kind of magical tendons or like [8:07] a neural drive that was crazy. That's [8:09] John Hack. You guys can look him up. [8:11] Scott, can we link a John Hack video [8:12] somewhere? That That just makes no god [8:14] damn sense. [8:15] >> [music] [8:15] >> But Kevin Levrone probably has [8:18] a combination of some of the best [8:21] shoulders, chest, and triceps ever in [8:24] the history of the bodybuilding game. [8:26] >> [music] [8:26] >> And so if those muscles are that big and [8:28] that growth prone, of course you're [8:29] going to bench a shit load. And he did. [8:32] >> [music] [8:32] >> Does that mean that you can make a natty [8:35] goal for yourself [8:37] of benching 405 at 190 lbs? No. When [8:40] people look up to naturals [8:43] versus look up to enhanced folks, [8:45] sometimes they like to tell themselves, [8:47] "I look up to natties because it's [8:49] attainable. It's realistic." [8:52] But the reality is that it is not [8:54] necessarily [8:55] >> [music] [8:56] >> any more attainable to look up to [8:57] natties because you're obviating [8:59] genetics entirely. You're never going to [9:02] look like anyone except the best version [9:04] of yourself. [9:04] >> [music] [9:05] >> So Kevin's shit, benching 405 at 190 lbs [9:08] drug free, inspirational. [9:10] Not [9:12] something you should aspire to do [9:14] because you can only aspire to be a [9:15] little bit better every [clears throat] [9:16] other week than the version you are [9:18] today. [9:20] >> It was easy to like [9:22] gain muscle and put on size and get [9:25] strong. I remember when I first joined [9:27] Powerhouse Gym [9:29] and I was like 21, 22 years old, [9:33] you know, my diet would consist of a [9:35] chili cheese hot dog. Now I get two of [9:38] those. My diet was just stop eating, you [9:41] know, uh chili dogs with cheese on them. [9:44] And uh just clean my diet up for 4 weeks [9:46] and and I went and Mr. Maryland show. [9:50] >> I hate him. Just kidding. [9:52] >> Just [laughter] kidding. That's the [9:53] jealousy talking. [9:54] >> That's genetics right there. And there's [9:56] an important lesson we can draw from [9:58] that. When you see someone with an [10:00] exceptional physique, especially when [10:02] they're younger, it is not immediately [10:04] apparent that they [music] know much. If [10:06] you told Kevin Levrone right now, like, [10:08] "Hey, so you were 21 years old like [10:10] winning the Mr. Maryland, you knew a ton [10:11] of shit." He'd be like, "No, I knew [10:13] nothing." Look, we'll look at your [10:14] physique, brother. Again, I'm just here [10:17] on vibes. I have no idea how the hell [10:18] this is happening. Why is this [10:19] pertinent? [10:20] >> [music] [10:21] >> Because many people [10:23] will look towards results, {quote} [10:26] {unquote}, or the state of the athlete [10:28] to see who they want to follow. The bros [10:32] sometimes know shit, a lot of shit. [10:35] Sometimes they don't know diddly dick. [10:37] Sometimes the guys that aren't even [10:39] remotely jacked know a ton. How do you [10:41] disambiguate the two? You got to go on [10:43] your own learning journey and know at [10:46] least the basic facts. [10:47] >> That's why I love Kevin cuz I think he [10:48] says he got second at the Olympia before [10:50] he started like trying to learn [10:52] anything. [10:52] >> Yeah. [10:53] >> It was pure ambition. [10:54] >> He just showed up. [10:55] >> So, like, you know, what are you going [10:57] to learn from that? You got to learn [10:58] some reservation about uh guessing who [11:00] knows things and who doesn't know [11:01] things. Uh, 100-lb dumbbell curls. This [11:04] is really impressive. So, I have been [11:06] sent this video on social media in [11:09] response to my not invention, but [11:11] repopularization of the lying dumbbell [11:13] curl, aka the clown curl, [11:15] and was told that I would become much [11:17] larger if I wasn't a {quote} insert [11:20] expletive at the expense of homosexuals, [11:23] and uh actually manned up and did some [11:25] real weight. Now, uh two things I'd say [11:28] [laughter] about that, three things. I I [11:30] it right? [11:31] Fact, I'm a little bitch. So, no no [11:34] absolutely no debate there. The reality [11:36] of why the 100-lb dumbbell curl is a [11:39] thing that correlates to Kevin Levrone's [11:41] arm size is because Kevin Levrone [11:44] couldn't avoid big arms if he wanted to [11:46] by simply showing up to the gym. And so, [11:49] can you do one-arm dumbbell curls with [11:51] as much weight as possible for sets of [11:52] five? Yes. Is that needlessly risky? [11:55] Yes. Would you get a better stimulus if [11:57] you did something that actually [11:59] stretched the bicep and put tension on [12:01] them at the same time? Yes. Is it [12:03] totally fine to do incline or totally [12:05] fine to do standing dumbbell curls [12:06] alternating if it's something that you [12:08] feel is hitting your muscles well? [12:09] Absolutely. But if you're doing it [12:12] because IFBB pros from the '90s did it [12:15] and they were jacked, you're [12:16] misconstruing the confluence of [12:18] genetics, drugs, and years of any kind [12:21] of hard work for this exercise as the [12:23] exercise to do. The 100-lb dumbbell [12:25] curls are the most insane shit. Mega [12:28] respect. This is actually Scott, this is [12:29] really good technique. [12:31] >> I was shocked. [12:32] >> Yeah, 100%. [12:32] >> He's lifting them. He's not just like [12:34] >> Dems is real 22-in arms. But is there [12:37] some kind of magic where if you try to [12:39] do the one-arm dumbbell curl with as [12:41] much weight as possible that your biceps [12:43] will grow better than any other [12:45] legitimately decent bicep exercise? No. [12:48] No, there is not. Unless you want to [12:51] extend that logic and say to yourself, [12:53] "The way I'm going to become sized like [12:55] Ronnie Coleman is I'm going to squat and [12:57] deadlift 800 lbs for [music] a double." [13:00] Um that's not a good way to train for [13:02] bodybuilding. Do you guys know why [13:04] Ronnie did it? Because he could. [13:07] And God bless him. But if you think [13:09] that's the path to your best physique, [13:11] maybe you're right. [13:12] >> [music] [13:12] >> But you're probably wrong. [13:14] >> You might do reps, but I'm not a rep [13:15] guy. Reps doesn't do anything for me. It [13:18] burns too many calories for me. I [13:20] already have a super fast metabolism. [13:23] >> Okay. [13:24] >> So, for me I needed to do six to eight [13:26] heavy movements, you know, compound. [13:28] >> Squats, bench press. [13:30] People who are incredibly responsive to [13:32] growth, on average, have faster twitch [13:35] muscle fiber composition. There are a [13:37] few things going on in there. [13:39] >> [music] [13:40] >> One is, if you do happen to be fast [13:42] twitch dominant, that is possibly true [13:45] for you, though it might not even be [13:46] true for you. So, you might like higher [13:48] reps better. [13:49] The other thing is this, [13:50] someone huge like Kevin Levrone says 68 [13:53] reps are better. You may steer your [13:55] animal the ship and say to yourself, you [13:56] know what? I'm just going to do sets 68 [13:58] reps cuz good enough for Kevin, good [13:59] enough for me, and that's bullshit. [14:01] [music] Because you have to try every [14:02] single rep range, do diligence, from [14:05] sets of roughly five reps all the way to [14:06] sets of roughly 30 reps, and do [14:09] everything in between, and see per [14:11] muscle where you get the best responses. [14:14] The good news is, you don't have to just [14:15] track your growth, though you can, you [14:17] have to check out where you get your [14:19] best pumps, where you get your best [14:21] soreness, and that deep intramuscular [14:23] fatigue, versus the fatigue of just [14:26] being like, [14:27] "I'm just done lifting. This sucks." So, [14:30] if you do higher reps and your muscles [14:31] feel kind of flat and tired, nah, that's [14:33] not it. If you do lower reps and your [14:35] joints hurt, but your muscles don't feel [14:37] shit, that's not it. Somewhere between [14:39] very high and very low reps, sometimes [14:41] there's just only right answers, and [14:43] sometimes only a particular rep range [14:45] will be the best for a particular [14:46] muscle. It's up to you to find out what [14:48] that is. If you use the RPE hypertrophy [14:50] app, you can program any reps and any [14:52] sets and any muscles that you want, and [14:54] really track the progressions like that. [14:56] That correlates it with pumps and [14:58] soreness for you, so you don't even have [14:59] to do that work, and you'll notice like, [15:01] "I'm typically getting really pumped [15:02] from sets of 68 on leg press." Then that [15:05] is at least the answer for a little [15:06] [music] while. The other thing is, there [15:08] are very many videos of Kevin Levrone [15:10] doing um [15:12] higher reps, cuz he'll do core work of [15:14] 68 reps, but then he'll do drop sets of [15:17] higher reps. So, sometimes what folks [15:20] preferred the most isn't even the only [15:22] thing that worked for them. And [15:24] there were many bodybuilders of even [15:26] that era that loved higher repetition [15:30] training. Many, many, many Markus Ruhl [15:32] loved higher repetition training, was [15:33] bigger than Kevin Levrone. Nasser El [15:35] Sonbaty loved higher reps for variety of [15:37] exercise. One of my favorite [15:38] bodybuilders of all time, a little bit [15:39] late in that era, was a gentleman named [15:41] Chris Dim, who if they had the 212 class [15:44] back in the day would have almost [15:45] certainly won the 212 Olympia. He's a [15:47] Vietnamese-American bodybuilder, [15:48] phenomenal, phenomenal bodybuilder and [15:50] awesome human being as far as I could [15:51] ever tell. He did higher reps, didn't [15:54] call them that back in the day. Scott, [15:56] he would do sets with mini breaks of [15:59] like 100 reps on the leg press, right? [16:02] And like Chris Dim was fucking enormous. [16:04] And so before you say, "Yeah, man, on [16:07] vibes only [16:08] getting heavy weight, man, slag iron [16:11] getting best way to train, brother, is [16:14] you show up to the railroad track and [16:15] just start eating railroad ties." [16:18] Uh that always [clears throat] throws [16:19] down the gauntlet. My uncle didn't even [16:21] lift weights, man. He just drank [16:22] excessively and beat the shit out of me [16:24] and that's why he was jacked. That's [16:26] hardcore. [16:28] Kevin Levrone had huge muscles, but he [16:32] also had a huge member. In our members [16:35] section, you can see the longer extended [16:37] version of this video where we may or [16:39] may not show a little bit of extra [16:42] something special about Kevin. That last [16:44] part's joke, but member section is real [16:46] and you can subscribe to it, pay a [16:48] little money for a ton of value. All [16:50] right. Click around, do that. Now back [16:52] to video. [16:56] 455 lbs. 455 pound lay ass pounds. [17:10] Scott, how many times have you seen [17:11] somebody do a full range of motion bench [17:12] press 455? [music] [17:15] >> Very rare. [17:16] >> Yeah. [17:17] Huge. [17:17] >> If you warm up properly, this could be [17:20] an [music] ultra-effective way of [17:21] building muscle. Would I recommend it? [17:23] No, I wouldn't. Here's why. [17:25] >> [music] [17:25] >> There's probably nothing you can't get [17:27] out of sets of 10 to 12 reps, even sets [17:29] of 10 to 15 reps with that same amazing [17:32] technique Kevin is doing, [17:33] that you would get out of sets of five [17:35] or six [music] reps. But the probability [17:37] of injury is way, way [music] lower with [17:41] sets of 10 to 15 reps than sets of five [17:43] reps because the mechanical load is just [17:46] way lower, and the amount of load into [17:48] your joints, and [music] tendons, and [17:49] muscles is the number one causative [17:52] factor of injury. [18:00] >> [screaming] [18:05] >> 500 for threes wild. [18:07] Like [music] [18:08] that is less of a cause of bigger pecs [18:11] and more of evidence of bigger pecs. You [18:13] have to have big pecs in order to do 500 [18:16] FOR THREE. [18:18] OH, MAN, these are so good, man. [18:20] >> And this is after the flat. [18:22] >> Same [snorts] workout. Same workout. 455 [18:26] lbs on the incline, which like almost [18:28] nobody could do. If you're wondering [18:30] what kinds of weights [18:32] build Kevin Levrone's pecs, shoulders, [18:36] and triceps, here's your answer. [18:54] Kevin Levrone, and I've probably said [18:56] Levrone by accident about 10 times [18:57] during this video, is a legend of the [18:59] sport. We can learn [19:02] from his technique. We can learn from [19:04] his dedication. [19:05] We can learn from his chill attitude. We [19:07] can also learn that maybe bodybuilding's [19:09] not not the end all be all all the time, [19:11] and it's totally cool to take some time [19:13] off and get right with life until you [19:14] get back in Eugene Teo style. Kevin [19:17] Levrone's physique to me is one [music] [19:19] of the greatest of all time. I would say [19:21] his side chest and his most muscular are [19:25] like [19:26] maybe unbeatable still. And because of [19:29] that, he lives in the pantheon of the [19:31] gods and deserves our endless respect. [19:33] He is rated a [19:35] monster god out of 500. [19:40] And I'll see you guys next time. [19:46] All right, that was fun. I personally am [19:48] going to do two things. I'm going to go [19:50] home, stare into the mirror at my [19:52] pathetic triceps, realize I'm not Kevin [19:54] Levrone, [19:55] >> [music] [19:55] >> and then cry. But then also, I'm going [19:57] to click on this video right here to [19:59] watch more content. [music] You want to [20:00] do any of the combination of the two, be [20:02] my guest. See you next time.