[00:10] conflict between a frametimer and his colleagues in the streamer squad, the owners. Everything started Oh, damn. And I thought they were real friends. Damn, the bookmaker's advertising and some of the words in this scandal were all there was to it, [00:23] damn. This, you know, is not very cool. Another squad on Twitch, here are best friends fighting again. Damn, how is this possible , dear friends? How does this elpashki, come here, don't be sad, let's be friends. The Elpeshki are very sharp. [00:38] spoke quite frankly about Alexander’s position. Let's talk about other So what's the bottom line? Will you have Oslana as an amka? Yes, most likely. Most likely, today it is the The main thing is for me not to fall asleep before that time. Well, I'm just afraid, afraid that I'll get knocked out. [00:51] And, for example, about new revelations from Dasha Doshek and about Kanye West’s concert in , let's get started. I hope Iblanquad disbands. No, seriously , I think there really is a possibility of the Ublankvada breaking up. Not [01:04] because the principles have changed somewhere, but simply because someone will die, someone will be imprisoned, someone will be deported. Well, you understand, right? That is, that is, we most likely have these reasons for the collapse of the squad. There's still a [01:22] big scandal brewing online involving a streamer and a frame-timer blogger. Previously, you might have known him as the cameraman and Agent Morgenstern, but now that association is Firstly, Alexander has long since become an independent media unit, more [01:35] associated with the streamer squad of the owners. And secondly, there was no trace left of the former relationship high-profile conflict over Gambling's advertising. However, we will talk about this later Oh, how sad, how sad, when friends quarrel, dear friends. It [01:51] squad of the owners, namely with the bad guy, and a little earlier with Korish and Danila Gorilla. The root cause of it all was this video from the frametimer, so that all the owners would be unsubscribed from all sorts of bookmakers and we would make [02:06] everything go back to how it was before and so that this summer the subscribers would finally remember [music] forever. They deserve it. [02:18] the filmmaker do this on purpose or is it just a natural thing for him? Well, you understand that such actions in any case involve manipulation of the audience and the creation of pressure on his own friends. Well, this is [ __ ] [ __ ], I just [02:32] can’t believe in my life that a media figure of this magnitude doesn’t understand that such an action creates pressure on his own people. What a [ __ ] idiot. What do you think, do you think he did it on purpose or did this problem just become so obvious to him [02:45] that he even, uh, without analyzing it, threw it in? Alexander has long been known as someone who will not accept. He's been throwing things like this around for a long time. Mm, mm, [ __ ] hell. Okay, wait, buddy. If you're such a categorical bull that you don't go to the [02:58] bathhouse, well, when they have banners and so on, then maybe you shouldn't have any contact with them in any media way. That is, it is full to do isolation, like conditional brrymes. Just leave [03:11] just offline. Well, not receiving any preferences in terms of being in a because if anything, this position from the category "I'll come to you when there is no banner" also smacks of some kind of hypocrisy. If, for example, you come to Git there [03:25] and you will tell him: “Take away the swastika when I come to you.” Well, this, damn, well doesn’t remove his complaint that you’re coming to Hitler, you’re still coming to the ambassadors. You still leave your audience there, and [03:39] they can still see this link later, uh, click on it, and so on. Well, as if to be honest, a certain action appears, as if his position has not been fully pressed. There is no such feeling as if he is a [03:51] that he has the right position, if anything, absolutely. I'm saying that in case, any adequate person will be for the front-runner, but it's worth noting that his position hasn't been fully pressed. And since he took such a radical [04:05] position, it seems like, well, his next step is to completely isolate himself from all the guys who are somehow connected with BKshka. Right. Right. All. Or gambling offices. This is a real stop-theme in his creative [04:17] work. He doesn't come to his friends' streams if there are advertisements there, even for speaks out sharply regarding such advertising. I, I, I chose some completely wrong strategy for development. You know, I also thought, I spent [04:34] most of my life, uh, about betting, Well, this is an absolutely correct position, an absolutely correct, competent position. [04:47] , in general, the situation with the frametimer has one very big nuance. I believe that this conflict is not about whether the ftheimer is right or not. I think this is exactly the same conflict that's about the movement of the arrow [05:02] in the Overton window, specifically in the host squad, specifically the audience that's there, that is, because all the takes there are from the category of "[ __ ], forget it , why are you bothering me, the position is too principled, and they're advertising all this, you know? So, [05:15] in fact, this attempt, the very same audience that sat behind, uh, the fed up, because they were constantly sitting on their ears, saying: "Why are you doing this? This is gambling. Because of this, people are dying, lives are lost. And essentially now they are [05:30] fighting, well, well, for this, they are arguing about this, because, well, believe me, it would be cool if the frametimer, well, didn’t [ __ ] up. So, it’s obvious that with he creates problems for his friends. And I will never believe that he doesn’t [05:45] question I’m saying is that if you have such a position and how radically you have taken it, then it’s like you should follow it through and move to the Band Maps position, when you the media at all, except for personal communication. Right. Right. Well, [05:58] abandon their friends. You just don't have to interact with them in the media . Well, if you have would make sense. It's simply contradictory. But I think that the conflict is not about that at all. It's precisely about normalization. That's it, that's it [06:11] . I recently woke up with the realization. We lost. Like, if you divide it into good and evil, yes, if good is like the other side, there's evil, yes, in the form of this gambling addiction there. That's it, we [06:25] lost. I swear, I'm not joking, I'm just like, I'm just curious. The frame maker is also supposedly a grown man, uh, a psychologist and so on, but he doesn't understand the obvious. Now you live in a country where bulls [06:40] are a driving force, a driving force not only of the economy, but of all sports, there, e -sports, uh, this stream, this movement block, bookmakers everywhere, because That this is one of the most profitable, one of the [06:54] left, precisely after the start of the war, it was driven to absolute. And the frame-timer will probably be shocked that in the near future , well, more precisely, the legalization of casinos has already begun. In these rates, there would already be casinos. And they have already created new [07:09] mountain zones in our country at the end of this year and next year, too, casinos, well, according to rumors, again, not a fact, they will also legalize. Well, why is this happening, you understand perfectly well, because it's a [ __ ] way for both the state and [07:21] everyone around to make money. Simply turning the population into gambling addicts. Well, if drink not only to streamers, but to someone else who has chosen this, well, position? It just raises a small question, as if, well, [07:36] you're [ __ ] a convenient enemy. But again , this is if you just [ __ ] bang until the very end. I'm watching the world now and I'm like: "We lost." This is no longer A lost battle, it's already a truly lost war. Why? [07:48] lost war. Why? It's just miraculously been normalized. So, have you even tracked this or not? I just recently started evaluating this from the perspective that [08:02] evaluating this from the perspective that before, all this was stigmatized, yes, I think that's what it's called, like everyone condemned it. That is, when some blogger was doing some kind of advertising, there was a [08:14] this nature, somewhere with something like that . It was like he was doing it, but kind of, you know, going through his own mind, and people were constantly writing to him: "Calm down there, you don't need this, stop, brother, this is just dirty talk [08:29] ." You get the idea, right? That was the story. And now it's gone. Now people who deal with this kind of stuff are protected. [ __ ], maybe FMTEer understands everything perfectly well , he just understands that there's [08:44] , he just understands that there's part of the audience is trying to do something like this: "Guys, don't give up, you can do it , damn, come on, turn on your brains. Well, you'll succeed, [ __ ], you'll succeed." Well, if [08:58] that's the case, okay, that's fine, but, honestly, it's like beating your head against a wall. The situation here is more global, and the problem here is more unfortunately, the only logical thing you can do is [09:11] . That's it. That's it. That's the only way they pay attention at all to anything that came before. came before. Now every football club that [09:26] kids play is branded with a bet. I also wanted every tennis court to be branded with bets. I just look at all this, I'm such a prick, well, [09:40] there's simply nothing at all that is n't somehow connected to this. I just thought so, I've been there my whole life, yes, I've spoken out, done some [ __ ]. But even I'm essentially involved in this story, because the [09:53] guys and I have been streaming for a while, from the very beginning of IR streams. And, despite the fact that I personally didn't have any banners, but I also did a lot within the owners to ensure that people watched it and people came, and [10:09] again, the guys always had some kind of bets hanging there. Well, that means you worked for the bookmaker, but for free. But it turns out that the guys always had some kind of Kazik or something else. Well, that means, [10:23] Kazik or something else. Well, that means, essentially, I was playing this game against and I myself became the person who also indirectly [ __ ] up. The new video where Alexander unsubscribed from the bookmakers, of course, caused a wave of indignation from [10:39] his friends. So. That's how I even answered why. Because this is creating pressure from the audience for them. And at the same time, this whole issue has obviously been for them. And at the same time, this whole issue has obviously been [10:53] and said: "Aren't you ashamed to rip off people there, Ladomany, and so on." So, 100%, FTMer was like a bone in their Throat. Although he's a [ __ ] friend. Although he's a friend, just in case you're wondering. And Korish, for example, insists [11:07] the frametimer still willingly streamed with them in all the most hyped cases. I think Sanya actually voiced this desire out loud, uh, and then silently said the desire: "Please, I want to get rid of the principles that have been [11:22] strangling me my whole life and the mesh." That's it, that's it. Understand what I'm talking about? [ __ ] this battle, [ __ ]. Specifically, for that very same normalization. Here's this quote. This isn't a battle [11:38] with the fronttimer and the owners, this is a battle for normalization on this [ __ ]. I'm saying, like, I advertised the beta, let me just remind you of this fragment, it really did happen, and so on. But I've always said that anyone who [11:51] advertises on it is a [ __ ] idiot. Scum. And this will last for the rest of his life. Even if he advertised something like gambling and then gave it up, you're still a sellout and so on and so forth. So you have to [ __ ] remember this. And the fact [12:05] that DK actually did shoot cases back in the day and then changed, he'll never be able to wash it off . But in any case, guys, if they ignore this advertising, try not to come to it, that already makes [12:19] them much better than the other scum who sit with this advertising to this day until the very end. It makes them much better, by the way. Here, specifically for the conversation about what's so special about betting? You're directly following, what the [ __ ] is so special about betting [12:32] in general? I'm saying that we have this, I understand the reality perfectly well. I understand that, uh, with us, what's happening in the country, what's happening around us, I understand perfectly well why many people do this. They place bets, but I think we [12:45] need to remember that anyone who advertises betting is a [ __ ] scumbag. I also remind Anton 2x2 that he's advertising bets. I've told him this more than once. Anyone who advertises bets. And the audience needs to remember this, not [12:58] take the position that they don't give a [ __ ] anymore, [ __ ], how this sucker won't die out and so on. No, we need to remember this. We need to But I understand and accept reality, but I [13:13] ludomania is, what betting is, to evaluate it on its own merits, as it should be, and not from the position that it's just, well, [ __ ], what kind of advertising. will be on the side of the frametimer, because the fight here is precisely about the normalization of this [ __ ]. [13:27] That's all. It's all pretty banal and simple. Although, in fact, the position of [ __ ] did the other squad member, say, "Yeah, [ __ ], you're isolating yourself," and you're not isolating yourself. [13:40] that's a different story. Nila was on fire. Quote: The guy literally took his principle to an absolute. He suffers from it, stream. How were you willing to pay big money? [13:52] Yeah, yeah, I'm willing to pay big money, but I do n't want people to be like, "Buckson, you're a hottie, what are you advertising?" Respect WW." No, I'll be a scumbag. You see, it's very important when a guy does [ __ ] and tries to justify it somehow [14:06] does [ __ ] because it benefits him, at least there's a certain sincerity in that. I understand perfectly well that I'm ready to do There are certain standards that I would never advertise certain things in my life. [14:20] And maybe, by the way, I'll never advertise a bookmaker in my life. By the way, just in case, guys, I'll immediately advertise, advertise, advertise, advertise, but something, well, nothing is advertised, mind you. A very interesting fact, although there have [14:32] you to think about, for example, in addition. Well, I just don't want, like some other people, to lie and then five years later get [ __ ] up by addition For the idiots. I'm explaining why I'm saying this. Well, that's pretty [14:46] I was just thinking, it turns out that if the Russian Federation legalizes casinos, then it seems like rushing for it. It seems like they'll specifically ban it because of complaints from the Russian Federation. Uh, no, everyone will just pretend it never happened. That's it. You see, that's the [15:00] No. He created a problem for himself and, under this guise, sweetly and smoothly manipulates his audience. Well, he's never been the most detailed opinion on this [15:13] was much harsher. When nothing existed and when absolutely nothing existed. Now, if Gore Creed had offered, I would have Isan Sanych wasn't even the owner yet. This did n't bother anyone at all, you know? [15:27] The situation is that the owners are all The initial streams I came up with were all sponsored by the casino. And Tamura became popular thanks to the casino. Like, I... Everyone understands this position. I'll [15:42] repeat it again. It's true. There's nothing good. There's no such thing as a So why are you betting on them if you're ready to sell out yourself? [ __ ], I people should just remember that this is, well, insane [ __ ], that all the people [15:55] who advertise it are scum. And not just WW importers who have a shitload of like, without [something - context needed]. What don't you understand about my position? Are you refusing to listen to it or trying to pretend I didn't say it? [16:07] The problem with this whole situation is that bets and bet advertising are no longer perceived as a disgrace. It's clear what kind of preferences it brings to special times and so on. Well, does it change that this advertising is just a drinking game and, [16:22] condemned and, well, roughly speaking, everyone who advertises BTK, where they're told you're scum, they should tolerate it. They should, I emphasize twice, they should tolerate everything. And then suddenly, I say, this battle for normalization, for [16:35] speak out, nobody. You literally don't speak out with this [ __ ], you words. And then who will even speak? Here was a frame maker now I'm [ __ ] him because, [ __ ], you used to be, and now you're happy with it. You're [16:50] trying to destroy a correct thought with a contradiction. I agree, Frame maker has this contradiction, but the thought is absolutely correct, [ __ ] right, by the way. Absolutely right. And only a narrow-minded idiot would try to [17:06] catch him in a contradiction, thereby giving priority to the same [ __ ] owners who are screwing him. You can contradict him, but still right. Well, from a certain point of view. Everything is [17:18] good, the casino is bad. It's a common misconception, no matter how you deal with it, you know? And the situation looks like Sanych, manipulating his correct position, has also attracted a portion of the audience who don't have any kind of thinking—well, maybe some, [17:31] don't have any thinking, damn it, that's absolutely brilliant. They don't have any thinking, it turns out, this normalization of [ __ ]. All the people who started betting on all sorts of sites during the World Cup are the same [17:45] interested in football, but simply because of the hype, because they see that billions Bloggers, media people, and artists are put up, they see these [ __ ] screenshots from all sorts of places, which are definitely not advertising. Like, this is a thinking audience, [17:58] [ __ ]. What the [ __ ] are you talking about? This isn't even close to a thinking audience. This is exactly the same mass that's [ __ ] around. Just live, it's really complicated. And this very manipulation leads to the fact that, like, you're all and what's [18:12] understand that these people, like, their whole lives are tied to this, sort of. And this didn't bother them back when they after the manipulation, naturally, when they've [ __ ] settled in, they're already like , well, there's no need to participate in streams, meetups, [18:27] like, she doesn't need it anymore. And at that moment, for some reason, this integrity became popular because of this. Like, you can't , dude, and instead, it's true. By the way, it's funny, [18:42] . And therefore, to avoid any complaints against the frame-maker, he should take the owners away from the owners, so as not to cross paths with people who are literally ambassadors of bookmakers . Whether he will do this is [18:55] To get some [ __ ] support. Every month, every week, turned away from me. And people on the internet were simply saying: "Prod, you screwed everyone, were simply saying: "Prod, you screwed everyone, you just dumped everyone." [19:11] , well, you just now even asked permission to spill all this [ __ ]. I don't know, , if a library professor became a gambling addict, what happened? [snorts] I wouldn't just blurt it all out this. Have you even heard this? Has anyone even heard this story, my story, has anyone [19:25] even once known it? Like, all this time, despite all the hate, despite all the [ __ ] they write to me, I hate him. He's the worst host. He, like, screwed everyone. I never even said it once. For how long? Well, for 3 years. [19:37] how long? Well, for 3 years. Not once at all. But then the stakes started to go up like this . This is my position. That's me, bro. Kazik did it. Tell me a secret. Besides that, on this stream, the bad [19:51] MTER said it was hard for him to make a decision because the guys are his friends. If in general, well, then his position, unfortunately, will be shaky. And you see, they've That's it. Before leaving, I offered the hosts ideas [20:04] for joint streams, but then everyone was afraid of losing their Twitch channel because A possible ban for the bad guy. After leaving, he faced a wave of hate from the audience. Plus, let's be honest, there's a chance it's not [20:17] that if a frametimer completely isolates himself from the hosts, it will most likely be his [ __ ] media death . Because literally, as individual media units, well, personally, maybe, because I don't follow [20:31] perceived. That's all. He'll most likely definitely lose some percentage of his audience and will just sit there streaming for a while. That's it, I won't be calling him Exeil in the video anymore. This is a huge, if anything, media boost, a [20:43] also gain a huge online audience, will be gone. And he'll literally end up in the position of, you know, a talking head, like me and the other guys who sit there, opening videos, some situations, something They're talking, [20:56] laughing, and who knows how it'll go. The fact that he'll 100% lose a huge media boost, damn, that's 100%. That's 100%. And, of course, the guy doesn't want to lose, well, DK. So, DK doesn't really have as radical a position [21:08] as Frametimer, by the way. DK isn't averse to collaborating with people who are beta ambassadors in one way or another. He doesn't have such radical [ __ ], by the way . So, PC is more convenient in this regard . That's it. [21:20] the difficulties. Well, you heard his position on Frametimer's words yourself. Interestingly, back on March 13th, Alexander stated that he wouldn't appear on that he wants to go somewhere or doesn't want to come to a stream with someone because [21:34] has them, for example. He doesn't ask for the banner to be removed . I've never heard anything like that from him. I heard. He just doesn't want to bet on himself. Again, the reason is that it's a scam, gambling, and so on. These are different positions, but DK's is strong and clear. [21:46] level. If it had remained at the more or less, even this conflict wouldn't have happened . But he hypobolized it. I become, unfortunately, unworkable in his particular image. That's all. [22:00] beta on YouTube, isn't this about Frama's streams? I'll repeat it for the fiftieth time. If you come to someone who is a beta ambassador and don't see betas, it doesn't save you much , especially when you're against bets [22:15] puke. It's, well, that is, tactfully, it doesn't work. It's the same thing coming to Hitler there against the wedding, who [ __ ] removed the wedding from the table. It's pretty much the same thing, you know? Aksa, yes, he's the Batbooms and the Batbooms have everyone there [22:30] exaggerated one, but you get the idea. In the hosts' streamhat, again, because of the presence of bookmaker ads there. And already in May, rumors began to circulate that Frametimer had a conflict with one of the most popular members of the squad with Ilya Iksail. [22:43] Hello everyone. And it seems to me that perhaps Ilya Iksail and Frametimer had a falling out. Now I'll tell you why I have such a hunch. Well, first, I'll show a short excerpt from Korish's video, where something serious clearly [23:00] happened between Frame and Iksail. Ilyukh, you understand, after you . I'm not doing anything. They have A, we need to look at the time. [23:13] need to look at the time. It's not every day I talk to dogs. Frama on Lyukhi's channel is literally one of the most significant press, a [ __ ] fan loves him. part of his audience will definitely fall away. And here, [23:25] [ __ ] hell, you guys think too much about the audience. You think too much. The audience won't give a [ __ ]. Ksail's videos have such a format that they'll replace each other, no one will give a [ __ ]. They literally just call the characters, and they [23:39] participate. Unfortunately, guys, you put too much faith in, uh, the love of the audience. You believe too much. That's not how it works on the internet. Don't believe me? A4 Vlad, the views are even higher than Eksail's in his time. The audience is more [23:55] rabid and fanatical. You remember how Vlad 4 just calmly in the end, it literally ended in nothing. Or do you think it'll be any different here? No, it won't be any different. The audience [24:08] will cry for a day and forget about it. The main thing is that the videos keep coming out. That's all. So, the hosts' fans really love the duo of FMtamer Ixale. Yeah, they love them. As long as I'm showing them. But if they show another duo, they'll love someone else. Dude, that's how media works, that's how [24:20] the internet works, that's how audience love works in general. It's been managed since the days of television, when it was just starting out, when they were making shows . If you switch the audience's attention to something else, they won't give a damn about [24:32] before. It'll literally be the personification of the Toy Story meme, "I Same example. Some of the audience will be upset, of course, no question, but for the most part, it won't make a difference. [24:46] justice in the world, but that's not the case. This is pure commercialism. B, not the case. This is pure commercialism. B, they say it's a [ __ ] show, it's just emotional. . And basically, I'd also like to add that in this video, Exil [25:01] , you know, wasn't really laughing. Maybe he felt uncomfortable. Again, as I understand it, it'll be tough for Fram to be heavy. Well, unless he suddenly switches to constant full-time streams, so that his image is completely [25:16] [ __ ] up solo, purely on himself, without the hosts, then yeah, immediately start churning out endless streams, with cuts and the they do it, he'll be a real hoot, because I think he's quite an [25:30] Fram doesn't like streaming with Kazik right now discussion. Gorilch, too. He's kind of nervous, like, you know, some kind of fight is brewing, and [25:42] he says, "Damn, this show is cool, it evokes funny emotions." any conflict on his social media, writing that insults are just part of the content and the game, and that he and Frametimer are on good terms. [25:57] It's worth noting that among the streamer community, there are those who openly his side. In this whole scandal. Yeah, I'll guess. About the girls, it became DK. Oh, [ __ ], okay. That's the story. Like, Sanya is manipulating [26:10] that were covered in letters, and now he's super against it. Well, I don't know, they're just, you know, one thing. If, say, I said something like that [26:24] says that DK openly, yeah, let's say, manipulates the audience regarding bookmakers, like he's such a saint, the rest No, yes. But another one is you can have BT, but you can, well, assess reality normally. I mean, take [26:39] streamers' casinos, like Makrivsky, for example. Yes, he creates a casino and [ __ ], it's gambling addiction, he himself, like, laughs at it." The question is, of course, how does because usually, when you have a story like that and an audience, well, also buys it, [26:53] you're unlikely to get any Dokhmans, but okay, well, three tenths, maybe there are some Etolomants coming back. Well, I mean, I do n't know, for me, the magnum opus of this summer is TikTok, where Makrivsky sits with an angry guy and tells him: "[ __ ], you're [27:05] "A casino isn't a scam." "The casino is not a scam." He says: "Well, it's Ladomani that you have the Ladomani audience. Ladomani is like: "Nen no I don't have a Ladomani audience." No no no no. That simple, well, I just don’t want to interfere in their relationship, but they are literally [27:18] it was very funny. They can't tell if he's manipulating or not. In short, I don’t know, I can understand his position in this regard as a friend, yes, if you think about it. The bad guy thinks it's strange that [27:30] he... I don't remember, honestly, I don't remember the frametimers being happy with everything remember the frametimers being happy with everything , yeah, if you think about it. spoke like that, that he was for Sanya and that he was right, then everything was right. Well, I'm not surprised. A [27:45] In fact, I also agree in this situation, despite a couple of points there . But for the most part, I'll be here for San, because taking the side of the bosses means you're standing for the normalization of [ __ ] bulls and [27:58] this conflict looks like. Money. He began to sharply turns out that if for you, well, it’s not clear and you do if for you, well, it’s not clear and you do n’t, this is a conflict about manipulating [28:11] the audience against his friends, it’s not nice, it’s one side, but not the main foundation. In fact, it’s all a little more prosaic, let’s say, you remember, with the exposure of me, yes, if a person previously [28:26] advertised a scam, he could not change his mind, like, and idiocy, although he was always remember him giving one like that. Well, BC didn't become food. Here and about Well, Well, BC didn't become food. Here and about Well, if you look at it this way, well, the idea, guys, is [28:40] Okay, stop, but we continue. But Frameheimer's biggest scandal happened with Morgenstern. Alexander even had a tattoo of the cameraman Morgenstern. They were that close. But against the backdrop of Alisher's upset mental state, even this friendship came to an [28:53] end. The problem has become the attitude towards advertising of bets and casinos. Margishtern filmed a betting ad and went to stream Molstroy, who spins Kazik. fairly quiet until Frametimer announced that the friendship was over. As for whether [29:06] we talked to each other, well, I can probably sadly report that we will no longer communicate. Like this. communicate. Like this. Because there were attempts to talk to [29:20] us. Somehow, in short, they were not crowned with girl made a TikTok about this situation , and the owners' close associates started writing in coms that they didn't sort out the conflict. Well, of [29:34] Of course, of course, of course. I won’t wear this, again, there, yes, somehow tell who what and how. We just stopped, sort of stopped communicating, in short, we did. That's all. Do n't you think that Alizher has gone a little crazy [29:48] , imagines himself to be on a mission and judges other people, although he himself has a lot of bad moments behind him. Well, there are certain problems in Lischer's condition now Alisher insulted the frame-maker numerous times, called him all sorts of names, and [30:04] challenged him to a stream, which, however, never happened. At the same time, he flew in, uh, with Morgenstern, he didn’t resolve the conflict. Again, my suspicion, I , but my suspicion is because he is no longer receiving any impact from it right [30:18] I was talking about. Whether he does it consciously or not, I don’t know. But the fact is that he has long ago separated himself from Morgen and receives nothing from him, but he receives from the hosts. So for [30:32] him it's a question. So let's be honest, is anyone stopping a frame-timer from simply stopping hanging out with the media and hanging out within the crowd? Well, that is, just be somewhere in between, don’t show up on their streams, in their videos, don’t [30:44] like friends. They are friends first and foremost , right? Nobody is bothering me. position is so radical? He doesn't want to not beneficial for him. Doesn't it ? He asks, like, remove the [30:59] btk there and the like, although it still doesn’t work according to the position. I imagine, in short, look, the basic story. So you came to a person who advertises a beta. Two diggers have come for you. These two diggers [31:12] signed up for a man. Ah, you left this guy and went to your channel. And these two diggers remained subscribed to the person. And then the next day, beta and with advertising and so on. And the two earthmovers who just signed up, that's [31:25] still a fresh audience, they see this beta and get addicted to gambling. Well, once again , I exaggerate, explaining why the frametimer position doesn’t work. Or it's something audience that is to blame for itself. I have nothing to do with it anymore. No, by the same logic, [31:39] well, it turns out that you are also to blame. So it's all just a matter of isolating yourself, and then the position looks absolutely normal. Well, either I shouldn't have taken such a radical position about not going to where the beta is, [31:53] because part of my audience might come. No, it can come simply because you are in the host squad. I will say more that you simply associate yourself with them, even so, if anything. Well, if you're so radical in this [32:05] regard, take an example from Brian Maps, who doesn't associate with people who could somehow leave a different mark on you, radical position. All. And don't even bother with banners, as if it's the problem of [32:18] those who are messing around, if that's what I'm talking about. Here it is, that same normalization has arrived, damn it. This is what this conflict is about, you understand? Not for whether they will remain friends, but for the fact that this [ __ ] will send even more people to the floor [32:34] . Do you understand? That is, I will repeat for the 50th time, that we are in a world, especially in a country, where betting is incredibly important, including for the state, including for many, let's say, authorities, [32:48] sports, non-sports, media, betting is everywhere. This is true. And this is the reality of life. These are pretty nasty realities of life, but unfortunately, there's nothing you can do about them, unless, of course, you suddenly come up with some other ways to [33:03] solve this problem. Well, the other thing is that, uh, the most obvious position is just, if you really want to experience this moment, it’s just like: “Okay, I’m not advertising anything, I’m ignoring it, as if [33:17] I’m in a house and there’s nothing, and I’m not making any claims to anyone.” This is the [ __ ] best option, because there is no public condemnation, and your audience, well, let's say, doesn't interfere . That is, this is a [ __ ] awesome example [33:31] advertise the bookmaker, but at the same time I am in the house, I do not make any claims to anyone.” In our reality, this is truly the safest position from all sides, which, by the way, even allows you to work with bets sometimes. Uh, [33:43] for example, there are all sorts of events where bets are almost always the like, if you pick on it, there are actually a lot of things you can find fault with. A lot, really. Ah, but let's not talk about that. The frame-maker [33:57] literally went against the norms that the state itself has set in the media field. Will he be able to win this? Is there truth behind it? Yes. That's the point, you see? That is, his, probably, best outcome from this situation is [34:11] that he will gather this small community around himself option. And the owners there got the an accident, damn it. Tell me, please tell me, what are [34:26] the criteria for entry? Well, to sit at the table in matfia? Well, that means children For children, yes. We have a children's table. What are the criteria? Just be a good person, and sooner or later we will find you ourselves. Understand? [34:38] This is how everything works for us. [snorts] If you move a dick, if you're a talented guy, then you sit at our table. The most important thing is that you are a person. Shut the chatterbox, [ __ ], how I [34:51] burn with people who swallowed one text about individual responsibility. Well, problem is that some people who say the opposite are completely ignoring individual responsibility, even though it should be there. [35:04] That is, is the person who himself overheard ladomania, uh, I don’t know, he responsible for this? Yes, obviously. But does the person who gave him these drugs, for example, or showed them, have any responsibility? [35:19] Or perhaps it is not so significant and, for example, not so strongly condemned, billion possible answers, you know? But individual responsibility people who are attacking those who advertise betting, betting, are [35:32] precisely those who ignore individual responsibility, which actually seems to me to be the most radical position of attack. That's it, well, this argument is used to defend [35:44] turn it around in their direction, because yes, responsibility lies with a person, but when a person brings you a product, advertises it, and so on, that is also responsibility. All. Just [35:56] not so much, for example, obviously influencing you at the moment of choice, for example. Yeah, in short, well, this is literally just give it for the sake of give it, in short, it life. This doesn't work. That's all. It just doesn't work. [36:09] Mafia is the explanation. At the very beginning of the beef with the frame-timer, Ilisher said Alcoholism is an addiction to alcohol. Alcoholism is an addiction. Just like gambling addiction, it is an just that different things have different consequences. Like one is from alcohol, the other from gambling. And [36:24] worse, for example, drugs or alcoholism, for example? Yes, in our case, what is legal? What is easier to get? Here is an interesting option. In our country, even if we consider it that way, bookmakers bring, in my subjective opinion, much [36:39] more harm than illegal casinos for two reasons. First, because the bookmaker is already a beta is different, they are already luklat, because it does not work purely from a factual point of view. Uh, BC is a casino, there's Rex7, which has [36:52] rackets, crashes and other [ __ ]. This is a casino, guys. There are no dogs for 500 yet, but wait a year, maybe they will appear. Here you go. Oh, and secondly, it’s legalized. Go outside, walk towards the center, betka, turn around, [37:06] betka, walk home, betka, go up to a small child, ask what you like. He will say: "I love the pig site." He's like, "[ __ ]." Btka has become a literal part of life. This is a legalized place where a person can come without [37:20] even suspecting it. Just think about it, he just wants to, I don’t know, add some adrenaline while watching it, and it seems, okay, if you’re a person, uh, ’ll perceive it purely as, well, adding some adrenaline, yes, while watching it, [37:33] if you, well, have some problems in your head , you don’t know where to get money or something else, uh, you way. In short, if you had a situation, perhaps you would go to [37:46] work. And here it’s so simple that you just go near a store, there you go to a Pyaterochka store, and next to it there’s a Batbook department, for example, yes, and you’re like: “Oh, buying bread, you bet on Argentina and lose everything in the most [ __ ] [38:00] , but not in the mafia anymore. And then I decided to remind the frame-timer of some very personal Well, just like this: “What if and so on, I can give you a billion examples .” But my position on this matter is simply one. Like, everyone who [38:14] advertises something like this should report that they are doing something different. I also advertise gambling at one time. I did some nasty things too. Like, it's just a fact. And so on. You can't let it slide to saying "forget it" and the [38:27] like. When they come to you and say: "You're a [ __ ], this, this, this is all." Well, there is no need to try to reduce this to half , but this is what it is reduced to right now. This is what really confuses me . Tell your fans [38:39] how you treat your girlfriend, the only person only person who remains close to you. [38:58] privateering and courses. You are the kind of owners of the bet and casino. And how do you communicate with treat her? Three questions that you will ask him, please, on the Anyway, we mentioned operator Morgenstern's tattoo. So, [39:13] he won’t communicate with him, like you’re ignoring all the questions and stuff like that. So Alexander decided to marry her. I'm removing this tattoo, this tattoo . I'm going to remove this tattoo. That's where it all [39:27] possible to advertise a Pyaterochka store that sells alcohol and move in this direction. Uh, well, then alcohol and cigarettes can be normalized then. Well, guys, this is even more interesting, by the way, and there is a [39:42] course, that would happen with a bull, but with alcohol and cigarettes, I immediately still [ __ ] up. Ah, but a very important joke, very funny. This is something that the state would introduce into people's lives so concretely that this is the same [ __ ] [39:58] that has become a [ __ ] culture. That is, think about it, well, the state did this because it is profitable. In some places, alcohol is even, well, worse than drugs. In places, in places, in places, depending on the type of substance there and so [40:11] legalized, anyone can get it. You see, to follow. But this was introduced so long ago that it literally became a culture. That is, when you arrive somewhere, to any point, any party is not perceived [40:23] somehow, well, somehow without alcohol. This is so funny that you understand. Apparently he forgot how Vozl was advertised. So it's literally the same thing. Here. And the Damn, almost all the bets there are state-owned. This is what I was [40:36] talking about. So here it is, behind him. As you say, Max, there is no comparison between cats and alcohol. This is a purely logical story. Alcoholism destroys life, it destroys it. illegal. Is alcohol legal? Legalized. [ __ ], it's [40:49] easier to get it, accordingly. The fact that they are legalized and lead to, well, moments like these, in essence, can be potentially more frightening, you know? This is roughly how it works. But at the same time, all this has already become part of human culture. I mean, the [ __ ] [41:01] party, we immediately think of alcohol. Is it scary at all? If you think about it that way, yes, but most likely after that thought I'll go and drink a beer. So think about it, as they say, yes, the character on the internet is very [41:14] cool, but when you touch Morgenstern in personal friendship or in some personal interactions, then you will understand what I'm talking about. not only against gambling advertising in any form. [41:28] account producers and information product creators. Streamers wrote with an offer to promote his account. In response, he called such scammers, who... Who the [ __ ] is this about? [41:41] Ku is not only against the advertising of Gambling in any form. This summer, Alexander criticized account producers and information product creators. promote his account. In response, he called such specialists [41:54] useless and compared them to scammers who deceive people over the phone. Appeal to the packers: "Go work for OzoOne, pack parcels." How do you come up with this idea of ​​yours with such a trump card, as if [42:09] without you this world does not exist at all. Like, finally, dude, I noticed you. I like your audience. Now we'll insulate it well, like a summer house, for [ __ ] sake. And then give her a good thrashing on the granny, dude. That's it, hold on to me. [42:25] Think of it as the only goal in life. Who the hell are you? I've been in the media world for 10 years, life. Who the hell are you? I've been in the media world for 10 years, something. This is what I love about You. Why the hell do you even exist? You, like [42:41] already done. Well, by the way, I agree with this [ __ ]. Normal producers who can develop a decent audience for you. units. Most of them are idiots who have watched all sorts of [42:53] guides on the internet and talk about how to strictly produce this or that type. And then, most likely, according to one [ __ ] template, which is the most popular, without realizing that the development options and directions for [43:05] any medical field are generally different, damn. Well, I mean, imagine a guy who's to a guy and says: "[ __ ], you're supposed to be a [ __ ] clown, [ __ ], in short, and you're constantly articulating, in short, constantly reaching out to the audience, basically, [43:19] [ __ ], swearing like everything's [ __ ] awesome, right? And the guy at the same time, well, he's a closed introvert, who sits there, plays, uh, I don't know, Space Engineer or whatever that thing is called, uh, and communicates with the audience in the most civilized way, without [43:33] swearing. So, do we really need to push such an image for such a guy? That's complete nonsense. No, that's nonsense. There are different paths of development, many of which, well, have seems to you that everything has already been invented. But in fact, if you take [43:47] you will create a whole A new image, for example, if we're talking about creating improvement. And the most important thing is that it has to resonate with you personally, because if it doesn't, there will be super dissonance. It's like in [44:00] being born with some kind of predisposition, like the transformation ability. Uh, and that means you can only use the closest ones well or learn them, and then you could learn the closest ones, but they'll have 80% [44:14] of your core, probably, yeah. Well, you won't be able to properly learn won't work; it'll be useless for you. It's the same with our character, only from the point of view of if we translate it into images. [44:27] This is [ __ ] packaging, not a trend. You've already packed yourself up with aliens from another planet , I don't know, I'm tired of writing. Dasha Doshik contacted me and said it was her ex-boyfriend, whom she'd [44:41] been dating for four years. And when Doshik suddenly got a wai, she thought she'd found her paradise. [music] Then why are you so lonely? You [44:54] why are you so lonely? You wanted to be big. Ah.