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title: 'EXCLUSIVE! Appeal to the Crypto Community from RAKIB: Regulation, Mining, Crypto | Alexander Brazhnikov'
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date: 2026-07-23
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channel: 'ProMarket | Полунин Олег'
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# EXCLUSIVE! Appeal to the Crypto Community from RAKIB: Regulation, Mining, Crypto | Alexander Brazhnikov

> Source: [EXCLUSIVE! Appeal to the Crypto Community from RAKIB: Regulation, Mining, Crypto | Alexander Brazhnikov](https://youtube.com/watch?v=4TyaLuYQUIE)

## Summary

In this podcast, the host and Alexander Brazhnikov, executive director of RAKIB (Russian Association of Cryptocurrency and Blockchain), discuss a controversial appeal to the crypto community. They expose the scandalous partnership between the Blockchain Forum 2025 and ForkLog, a Ukrainian media outlet that openly supports the Ukrainian Armed Forces, raising questions about loyalty and ethics in the Russian crypto industry. The conversation also covers mining regulation, the impact of government decrees, and the challenges of cross-border crypto payments.

### Key Points

- **Scandalous Appeal to Crypto Community** [01:05] — The host received a private message with a link to an appeal from RAKIB, an all-Russian crypto organization, regarding a controversial situation involving the Blockchain Forum and ForkLog.
- **ForkLog's Pro-Ukraine Stance** [02:46] — ForkLog, an exclusive media partner of the Blockchain Forum, openly declared support for Ukraine and raised funds for the Ukrainian Armed Forces since February 24, 2022.
- **Blockchain Forum's Questionable Partnership** [07:41] — Despite ForkLog's anti-Russia stance, the Blockchain Forum continued to partner with them, even in Dubai events, raising concerns about prioritizing profit over patriotism.
- **New Mining Decree Clarification** [21:45] — A government decree issued on March 21 clarifies that mining is permitted in any region of Russia, even those previously banned, as long as it does not use the unified energy system.
- **Irkutsk Mining Crisis** [25:55] — Miners in Irkutsk face a shutdown of 460 MW capacity by 2030, forcing them to relocate their equipment, with significant financial losses.
- **RAKIB's Proposal to Energy Minister** [29:43] — RAKIB wrote to Energy Minister Tsivelev proposing a meeting to discuss developing mining in Russia using excess energy capacity in regions like Komi.
- **Innovative Mining Heating Projects** [31:18] — Examples of using mining equipment to heat buildings, including a trading house and a hostel, demonstrating dual-use benefits.
- **Regulatory Gaps in Crypto Sectors** [49:48] — While mining is clearly regulated, other sectors like P2P exchanges and cross-border payments remain in a gray or black zone, posing risks.
- **Scam Call Centers in Lviv** [58:51] — A scam operation based in Lviv defrauded Europeans of €10 million through fake trading schemes, highlighting cross-border crime challenges.
- **Crypto Transaction Volume in Russia** [01:03:12] — Approximately 10 trillion rubles in crypto transactions occur annually in Russia, with 3-4 million citizens involved in crypto activities.

### Conclusion

The video highlights the tension between commercial interests and national loyalty in the Russian crypto industry, while also providing updates on mining regulations and the need for clearer rules in cross-border crypto payments.

## Transcript

How to attract an audience?  How did Ukraine's crypto community perform in the war with Russia?  Where it's warmer, that's where you go. Where it's colder, you leave.  Well, yes, that makes sense.  The fortified market in Russia is about 50% government officials.  It's obvious that
the guys know how to think.  They have something to take away.  Where is our money?  Everything disappeared there.  Everything burned, everything fell.  Manners are to blame.  They are stupid, damn, drunk, pure and simple, bad people here. Where no one is ever kicked out from.
We're even afraid to hit someone on the butt with our palms.  There will simply be a scandal there.  They'll just fly in there and shoot everything.  Keep away from me, keep away from me. Cryptocurrency.  Scary.  Well, to say that Cryptocurrency.  Scary.  Well, to say that I was shocked is to say nothing.
[music] [applause] [applause] [music] Friends, I greet you all.  Today is a new podcast and, I would even say, an emergency
edition.  And usually, when I'm filming videos, I record three or four podcasts a day.  And today I left as quickly as possible in order to release this rather sensational, in some sense even scandalous
information in the coming days.  Yesterday, I received a private message from a friend of mine with a received a private message from a friend of mine with a link to an appeal. Rakiba is an all-Russian organization representing the crypto and blockchain community,
right?  I immediately contacted Alexander Brazhnikov, the executive director of Rakib, asking him to provide some comments and proof on this situation, if possible.  Alexander, hello again Zato.  Hello everyone,
friends.  I'll be honest, when I saw this letter, I also looked at the links that weren't attached to the letter , but were relatively related to the content of this letter.  Well, to say that I was
shocked is to say nothing. Let's figure out what kind of appeal this is to the crypto community from Raqib, why it's there, and what crypto community from Raqib, why it's there, and what it's filled with.  Well, in fact, Rakip is a
long-standing public organization, we have always been neutral towards everyone, we have always supported everyone.  Yes, everyone has
can take any of us and say that something is wrong with him.  Regarding cryptomaniacs guys I talk to, they say: "Evgenievich, you know, seven cryptomaniacs He says: “That’s because the rules of the game in their life aren’t very good.”
only, thank God, appeared last year, in 24, and at least there was some understanding, and that was only partially, yes, and partially, and therefore there was some attitude towards has a suspended sentence, as I see it,
someone in general, the whole thing is immeasurable, sometimes you read there, and I am dumbfounded by this situation.  But one can understand this, get used to it, and even forgive it.  Well, the situation that just happened, well, I, you know, can
even say that.  Firstly, there are fairy tales like, it turns out, we have people who established the crypto industry in Russia, who, it turns out, saved cryptocurrency from being banned, even though I was involved in this myself and know
specifically who was there and how it happened.  It was during COVID in 2020, when Mr. Aksakov and the Central Bank wanted to ban the circulation of all this, everything related to crypto.  And when we were all working
remotely, our representatives, along with representatives from a number of other companies and organizations, went to the government, where the action took place and everything was protected.  I have never seen those comrades there, not even once. As I wrote in a letter, I
saw it once in United Russia when the Supreme Council was discussing mining.  And then it was discussing mining.  And then it happened, well, what they said, I even got really excited at that moment and interrupted my comrades a little, because
they were telling some nonsense, not out of manners, but from themselves.  And what’s more important to them is that they are great, the first, the most, and everything else.  This is specifically about the organizers
.  But now the organizers in Russia, Blockchekfom, have changed the name slightly.  They want to be here and there, in Russia and in other want to be here and there, in Russia and in other places, and to gather people there,
and for everything to be good.  What is the essence of the change in the name of Blockchain Life?  So Life was in Moscow.  Well, now it's a forum. Well, most likely, I think, they still have a foreign company, and
want to see a Russian trace are led there.  That is, in Russia it is called a blockchain forum.  Yes, indeed, blockchain forum 2025. Yes. And here it turns out that they want everyone to see them there. Any sponsors can come to them there.  And in Russia,
only sponsors who are ready to come to Russia can come to them.  Yes.  Well, that's okay.  Well, that's right.  Well done, they are earning money.  You are really great at what you say.  We have achieved a lot at the age we are now.  They are
great guys.  But they shouldn’t make the same mistakes that they are making now.  Well, the forlock that we just saw. Guys, on February 24, 2002, when the special operation began, this media
the special operation began, this media resource openly declared that they were against our SVO, that Vladimir Putin is bad, and let's support Ukraine, let's raise money to support this whole thing there.  Is
furlock a Ukrainian public page or something else?  Well, this is a confusing situation. Here they have Estonian jurisdiction , but we see that in 2020 they were in a nightmare in the Investigative Committee, how they started looking at history, what was there.  Well, then everything
was returned to them.  Perhaps after this, Furvok became so loyal to Ukraine when the guys from the Ukrainian security services worked with them .  And the guys became quite loyal.  And these guys bravely published all of this
bravely published all of this on their resources on February 24th.  Well, you know, on their resources on February 24th.  Well, you know, I don’t understand how, in our Russian jurisdiction, a forum in which our leaders participate, well, as they
representatives of state regulators will participate.  Yes.  And here they have an exclusive media partner, an organization that openly proclaims on its own resources: "We support Ukraine, we support the armed forces of
Ukraine, we support this whole thing."  And we are so bad, you know, here bloggers are already being made foreign agents for saying that I am against the war , and then there is this being asked: “Guys, did you bring them here specifically so that they would
collect money for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, or what?”  Well, RBC is generally interesting, a brilliant media partner RBC, you should at least take a look, the guys RBC is a good, worthy media.  They even looked to see who you were standing next to and where in Medina Furloque.  Well, I guess they didn't
know.  Well, at least don't conduct an investigation, read what's there.  Well, because, frankly speaking, I’m subscribed to Furlock myself .  Signed by myself.  Well, I don’t know, damn, four or five years, probably, because this is one of the old public groups on
Telegram.  I read it.  Well, they always considered it one of the most powerful, I think, that's why the old ones just have a blockchain forum, their forum, and well, we see the history that , when none of this existed yet, 2022 hadn't even begun.  And
possible to decide that we were friends or not friends.  But as I understand it, the guys from Blockchain VI and the blockchain forum decided that friendship is more important than homeland.  Well, I have this feeling because they
installed them.  Well, I told them once in 24, they still had Blackchai Life in Dubai back then. Forvok was also an exclusive media partner.  They even had a stand, I think, in Dubai.  I won’t lie, I haven’t
been there myself, and I don’t go there to see them.  And the question is, are they doing this on purpose or is it just like that seems to me that if the organizers know about such a story and they have some kind of security service there
, then it won’t be difficult to prevent it.  And here, probably, to prevent it.  And here, probably, not only commercial ones, first and foremost, because the partners of any conference, those who
buy some kind of advertising there, inscriptions on cups, media partners, stands, any partnership, are on a commercial basis first and foremost. Well, most likely, there is, you see, we are life on Naflock, if you go in, look,
there is an advertisement for Blockchain and the Blockchain Forum.  I am generally surprised at how this furlock, which, as they say, is drowning against Russia.  The blockchain forum advertises that they collected money from us and then used it to help Ukraine
.  Anything is possible, because they have paid advertising there.  That blockchain forum, it's also sponsored .  Well, that means the blockchain forum pays a media outlet that collects money to use the
thing.  It turns out that what they paid them, which means they a priori, one might say, took and paid from the money that they paid in Furlok, will go to help the armed forces of Ukraine.  Today, when I was driving to the
studio, I looked through all the links that were sent to me so as not to be, well, unfounded, otherwise it might not be clear what we are discussing at all.  I'll attach in the description under this video, no matter
what platform you watch it on, links to the same forclock, just so that it is visually clear there are training sessions, yes, at the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and numerous ones at that.  Well , uh, the last article sounds cool about how the Ukrainian crypto community
showed itself in the war with Russia. Not only there, but the entire international community.  If they come to that, if they are involved in the blockchain with Dubai and can also announce it there and collect money.  All those who came to them were international
.  Come on, help us, poor Ukrainians, or support someone there. This is also a question.  What were they doing on the Wafa blockchain, which, as they say, someone claims is just Russian communications.  We unite everything there
.  Well, I have a feeling that they are not uniting Russians there, but are singing songs to the Dubai community, like Dubai is the capital of the crypto economy, the crypto face and all that .  Now they will come running here,
they will say that Russia, Moscow, our mother, is the capital of crypto everything, because as soon as the wind starts blowing in one direction, in the other, they switched sides.  In 1922 we left and in 1925 we decided to come back.  And who is
waiting for you there anyway?  How?  Okay, go ahead and do the job.  Never mind.  None of them did anything bad for the country. They've gone, they've gone.  Well, as they say, the left to avoid being mobilized .  In 1922, they
were our guys, just of draft age.  We decided, well, to hell with it, why did I invite us?  Well, they tell the story that they left and are supporting their homeland there.   An interesting tale.  They just left.  so that you would be drafted into the army.  That's all.  And
tell everyone that fairy tale about how great they are, damn.  Absolutely not.   They just got scared and left.  And now we have decided to come back.  Everything seems to be getting better, the situation is changing.  America seems to have started a dialogue with us and everything else.
Here you can already play on this.   To hype.  How do they come back? To create hype, how they like it there, how they will perform there, how to create hype.  So they decided to show that they are great.  Well, that's one thing.  Plus they are so
brilliant and awesome.  How they raised this entire crypto industry in Russia.  Well, it’s just , you know, fantasies, okay, you can forgive them, but such things are somehow incomprehensible.  Why are you guys doing this?  Why do you do such things?
So, did I understand correctly that the situation is specifically with the forklog and that they are specifically with the forklog and that they are information partners there and have financed Ukrainians funding, that’s one thing.  Well, we don’t know how much they collect there.
Forlo was clever, he provided 10 accounts where you can donate crypto.  And what are they like, we don’t know how much money they collected there, we don’t know at all.  The fact that they write news there,
So here the effectiveness of this matter is quite good.  If they didn't collect 100 million dollars there, then that's how much could have been done and how many of our comrades died because that money went to support someone.
I don't see anyone like that in the crypto community. If someone started talking or writing [ __ ], many people here would say, "What a bad person! We're outside of politics, we're not doing anything like that here, we're creating a digital
economy."  Yes, I completely agree that we don’t have red, white, green, yellow.  A Ukrainian, a Russian, an American, everyone should communicate normally with each other.  This is the goal.  Well, if this is prevented, well, of course, it should happen.  And I
crypto was created precisely to move away from the state a little, so that everyone could use their own finances , rather than involve some state resources, which they are now
trying to regulate.  It was precisely an independent community.  But this camaraderie, and not about what is happening now.  The international crypto community is against us.  Let's extinguish the Muscovites there, something like that.  And what about
us?  And we remain silent.  Her.  We're kind of loyal.  We are like friends.  We are all friends. Yes, that's how it should be.  But when someone throws a stone in your back, I don't think you'll forgive very painfully. Of course, God said that you need to turn the
left cheek, the right cheek, everything is fine. But here we somehow feel bad about setting ourselves up.  We need to take our position already.   Are you on the left or the right bank?  Who are you with?  With us?  Or do you want to swim in the middle on vodka and back and forth?  Where it's
warmer, you go there; where it's colder, you leave from there.  Here.  This is a disaster.  Well, by the way, the material that they sent me with links along with the worklog, from this whole story, ah-ah, is also about one interesting person who apparently can’t
decide whether he belongs there or here. This is the CEO and CFO of the BitMix exchange, who at one time also introduced sanctions, yes, against Russia. Here he is speaking on blockchain and
who is dealing with issues there, if I'm not mistaken.  Well, he is the deputy committee on corruption, yes.   Well, here’s the question, well, I’ll
tell you honestly, maybe this is right, maybe it’s not right.  At least he did it in 1922 and everyone forgot about it.  Somehow our memory is so distant.  In 1922, everyone turned around and said: “We are against
n’t say anything about us being with Russia or anything else.  They just returned silently.  Yes, silently.  And we are so happy.  We are discussing some artists there who thinking about whether we will bring them back or not.  And here they even spoke out about this
, that they did something.  You know, I find it so interesting.  We are trying to make outcasts out of some people , and all that, but those who haven’t apologized, haven’t repented, haven’t done anything to somehow become loyal to us
, when they arrive, it feels like they’re shaking our hands.  And you shouldn't even shake hands with them. What, did you come here?  Yes, there are nuances.  The exchange wants, of course, to conquer the Russian market.  In our market, there are, well,
30-40 million citizens who are really in strength right now.  This is a good market that can be pulled under someone's control.  In America they catch huge ones.  In fact, the Americans do their own thing, and there they make their own, as they say, movements.  Asia has its own.  And
here in the middle is Russia, the Russian-speaking world, which, I believe, is quite loyal.  You will have at least 10 million Russian citizens there in your jewelry .  This is a very good turnover of money and profit.  Where else is no one being
kicked out?  I'm talking about Russia, as well as from Asia and so on.  Yes, yes.  And here our market is interesting.  I understand that they want them, but they don’t want to apologize for their own, because if they apologize, they will start to harass them there.   What are
you doing here?  There, Ukraine will immediately raise such a fuss that someone here, well, now Ukraine might, I don’t know, maybe the Ukrainian Armed Forces will ask Farlock a question now.  What are you doing here in Russia?  Why did you come?  Where is our
money?  Yes.  There is also a question here.  You know, guys, listen to the safety of doing here? Did you come to Russia?"  Or on the orders of the party, or what?  The same can also ask him a question: "Why did you come to Russia?"  Like this.  What a
confusing situation this is.  Well, I think that these comrades consulted in advance before such an extreme trip for their careers.  Yes.   Was there any response from the blockchain organizers after
this information was made public?  And as I understand it, you somehow else, well, Sergey publicly wrote in his chat that it’s not a handshake organization, all these old-timers-things.  Alexander Evgenievich wrote to me that they
were going to the State Duma , well, well, well, we’re waiting for you there.  He's ignoring everyone here that we have some amazing people who are being regulated from the presidential administration or somewhere else.  He's always
you hear so many other legends about them sometimes, all this time, since 1917.  What legends the guys have told about themselves.  Okay.  Well, dreamers are good. I just wrote some book where they actually talk about such
I just wrote some book where they actually talk about such fantasies outright.  James Bond. it .  Here he goes to Seryozha's account, you read something like a note from a cryptomat or a cryptomaniac, something like that is
said there, it's really cool. He's probably a black belt in Potekwando, or something else, a boxer, a master of sports, or a sniper.  Well, we must have a hell of a hero. Cuckoo.  I have an offer for you
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in the description to join the bot.  Alexander, my question is: which government agencies, departments, or social organizations does Rakip interact with, and what issues is it currently addressing, and what issues did it initially address?  In
fact, from the very beginning, when it was formed in 1917, Rakip tried to communicate with everyone: the state, business, society, with the state, constantly with the Ministry of Finance, Rosfimentoring, the
Rosfimentoring, the treasury, the Central Bank. Now it seems that relations are even improving with the State Duma, yes, with everyone, with the Ministry of Energy, the Ministry of Industry and Trade, but not everyone wanted this.  And while there
was no legislation, everyone started communicating during the day.  Everyone is so mind you, mind you, cryptocurrency is scary.  And in the evening they come up to me and say: “Come on, tell me what this is, and how can I mine it?”  Yes, yes, yes, yes.  Well, that's how it was.  Well, they were afraid, but
they wanted to.  In fact, I think that the fortification market in Russia is about 50% government officials.  Well, my opinion is that all the investments that are currently in mining, in trans-payments, and everything else, are not simple people.  Well, where do people get it from?
Well, and big business. Big business is now actively state did a great favor in 2024 by signing these documents and legalizing them, at least in this
business, because if in 1923 big business was already slowly getting into this business, but they had a deep-seated fear that suddenly tomorrow they would write that it is impossible to execute or pardon, or vice versa, it is impossible to execute or pardon.  They had something like that
in each other.  It appeared here.  And now even our big convocation, well, I won’t lie, we weren’t the only ones doing this.  On March 21, a new government decree was issued, which explained, as you know, that 13
explained, as you know, that 13 regions have banned mining.  Well, for some it’s partial, but for others it’s needed in the thirties .  And we received an explanation.   The government decree clarifying the matter was issued on March 21st. It's number 375-371, I think. It
states that, in plain Russian, mining is permitted in any region of the Russian Federation, even those prohibited by law, but it shouldn't
be in the energy sector within Russia's unified energy system.  Well, the point is that the Russian energy system, which includes heating and electricity for socially significant facilities, is all a single state
generation, well, you made it yourself there on water, on gas, on something else, on coal, and it is not part of this unified system, you can mine on this system plant, where you have electricity , you have, for example, a
gas generation, and you can attract. Someone installed it at the well when there was a everyone, including law enforcement, understood that if you were luring on this territory, you were breaking the law.  And now everything is explained.  If you're beckoning,
this generation isn't part of Russia's unified energy system, which Russia's unified energy system, which doesn't interfere with anyone. You're not taking power from a hospital or a school, and someone else has this electricity, so everything's fine.  Here.   This is truly a
big thank you.  Like, the guys already told me that because there was a real explanation, because someone installed a generator in that region, but he’s “You turn it on now, bring the attendants, we’ll come and ticket you.”  No.
How realistic is the story about creating a separate economic zone?  And I heard from a friend of mine, a blogger, who seems to be involved in this process himself, that they are planning to do something in Tatarstan and are already creating a
listen, Specialist, we have a lot of stronger zones in Russia.  Well, Tatarstan is always at the forefront, but to be honest , they don’t have much generation.  I believe that there are entities where generation is even more powerful, yes.  Tatarstan
is developing very actively, they have their own projects there, and the local government really supports this topic.  They are actively developing this.  Indeed, actively developing this.  Indeed, they have potential, but they are not
holders of the energy drain that exists in other regions.  Well, Irkutsk, capacity that Irkutsk has, well, we estimate it to be somewhere around a gigawatt of capacity for mining.  Well, there is no such capacity in Tatarstan .  Well, unless, of course, the local authorities
decide to build a nuclear power plant there, then, well, I wouldn’t be surprised by anything.  In the Republic of Tatarstan, these guys are very active and guys are very active and can do anything there.  But right now, we're
encouraging all entities to create working groups between energy companies, discuss what can be done in your entity.  It’s not that everything
disappeared there, everything burned down, everything fell, but rather, let’s think about it, do you have electricity?  there is, but you are planning to build two or three living complexes there, which will require 50 MW of capacity there.  Let's
do some generation together.  Let's make it profitable.  Let's have the manners turn off when necessary so there are no problems with electricity. All this can be done.  And now we are saying this, because, well, also in
Irkutsk, if all this had been done so properly, this situation would not have happened.  Everyone would have calculated how much electricity, where, how it is needed, for what, and everything would have been fine.  And then it happened, everyone ran up and grabbed everything.  And they
paid for those conditions, for those accessions.  They bought land, they bought a generator, a transformer, well , they bought a lot of things and spent money.  And now they have a situation there, well, I can’t say for sure, in the south of Irkutsk, 460
can’t say for sure, in the south of Irkutsk, 460 MW of capacity is turned off.  And yesterday a decree was issued to turn them all off by 2030.  Here they had from November 15 to March 15, and they thought that this would happen.  And now I
see it this way: somewhere, most likely, at 400 MW of capacity, the miners that were there in Irkutsk must now urgently look for a place to install their mining equipment.  Yes.  This is also such a problem.  They were given a new
condition.  That's it, get out of here and that's it.   No one will pay for the wrong conditions, one will pay for the wrong conditions, which are not very cheap there.  And there were various elements of corruption, I think, and that was it.  And they
bought land, which now they don’t need at all, because generation is now of no use to them.  The transformation is bigger than everything else and that's it.  And the miners say place.  Well, how will they move?  What's this, guys, they invested 100 million there just in
this site, for example, they had a site there for 20 MW.  They have 400 How much money did they spend? They all spent a billion rubles in total on death. And now these guys have to look for somewhere to move on.  But now they are afraid
that tomorrow they will move somewhere, immigrate, and also ban mining.  Damn, it seemed like we did everything to make sure everything was developing well, and then they went and came up with this thing.  Well, this is a difficult and tense topic right now
, precisely because any subject can be banned later.  Well, now we’ve taken it, we’ve delivered gigawatts of power, and that’s it .  This subject has no power.  They make decisions about government posts and we ask you to ban
mining.  They just built the infrastructure , and then they have to situation.  This is precisely the situation we are talking about: a working group is needed between the subject of the Russian Federation, which was the energy sector, and the manners of society.
n't be madness.  No one will come running there and install gigawatts of power, look and say: "Guys, you only have 300 MW of capacity, what 500? 200 is already gone."  And then it will work.  And now, well, greed
breeds poverty.  It's no wonder this phrase was invented.  Power engineers are happy to see that they come for those conditions.  They sell to everyone, put, put, put. Bang, he sees that they've run out of power.  What to do?  And now they've got a surprise: they
need to build a school, they need to build a factory, and whether they like it or not , they need to allocate 100 MW from somewhere.  Damn, what should I do?   I do n't want to become the scapegoat, the miners are to blame, they took us here, that's it, we'll turn off the miner, they took 100 MW from them
turn off the miner, they took 100 MW from them and that's it, the issue is resolved."  And they think that the miner is the very locomotive that builds the Russian economy for us.  This is an option, and this is new money that we now have the opportunity to
make, to pay it somewhere in the world. Even attracting money to Russia is a fantastic thing, because half the world does not agree with the decisions that their government people are making, saying
care.  They are ready to finance some projects in Russia as well.  It doesn't matter to them.  The main thing is that there is a profit and the money is coming in.  And for them, 12% per annum in foreign currency is simply super money.  We have this strange situation now,
where banks give 20-30%.  Well, for the time being, but then what will happen next is unclear.  And foreigners generally have countries where the interest rate on deposits is zero.  They even pay
some extra for the fact that the bank's money is theirs, yes.  Well, here we are, Russia, where this can be done.  Well, I know some guys who, thanks to cloud mining, attracted more than 20-30 million dollars in
investments alone.  Now they are not attracting anyone, they are standing at their capacities .  Here's an example.  They need to take and do, do.  This must be done, to be the first.  If we figure out mining and do it in such a cool format, then no
one will tell us what to do. Well, yes, that makes sense.  I heard that there were even consideration.  But in fact, they didn’t really
wrote a letter to Energy Minister Tsivelev two days ago, asking for a personal meeting where, under the leadership of Roki, we will discuss the concept of developing mining in Russia using
Russia's energy capacity and potential. The idea is to The idea is to everything about the energy sector that we have in Russia.  He knows where this energy is
needed and where it is not needed.  We have such segments in Russia, energy, where there are gigawatts, no one needs it.  Well, here's an example, like the Komi people, for example, we're now looking at Irkut, where coal used to be mined.  This city is
dying now.  Well, everyone leaves and doesn’t mine coal.  And there is a lot of power there. As I was talking to people, there was generation of about 500 MW there, but the price was insane.  If we now stupidly make a new city in Vorkuta called the
Garden of Manners.  And they will live in these houses .  They will develop all this there .  Besides electricity, we also have heat.  We can at least make greenhouses. We were once discussing with a company that works in the same morglot as their
enterprise.  They have them there, when there is a rotational plant, well, these are miners, there are some other mining workers, there are oil workers, they have these rotational villages there, where people live for 6 months and 10,000 people live there.  Well, damn,
put mining there in this topic. You will have greenhouses that are always warm.  Here you have cucumbers, tomatoes, parsley, herbs.  It's quite possible.  Well, I saw these projects; the guys were developing them very actively in 17-18.  There was a topic about
crypto boilers, where you heat houses with crypto. It's like you connect the electricity that your house is connected to, you connect this mining apparatus to a special liquid, and this heat circulates throughout the house, and you end up
earning money.  I didn't even see a project, but it was a heated trading house in one of the constituent entities of the trading house was heated by mining equipment.  There were more than 200 devices in the tank.  They drove water throughout the heating system, throughout the entire good trading
house.  One hostel approached our guys; they had cold water, but was no hot opportunity.  They made a system for them that allowed them to get hot water from mining .  They put 10 machines in their tank, and they started
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noticed that there were earlier letters, some of them from the come to Blockchain Life and at one time there was some kind of good, maybe even, I don’t know, friendly
start?  As far as I know, there is also unhealthy competition there and so on.  I'll say it this way.  I said it myself, we behaved neutrally with everyone .  Well, first of all, with Blockchain Life we ​​supported them as one of their mouthpieces.  Well, while they were doing everything
normally, yes, what were they exalting themselves for?  Well, screw it.  We currently have somewhere around, well, probably four or five companies that are holding events within the framework of the development of the crypto industry.  I support them myself.  I was
there in Novosibirsk, the last time they held Crypto Siberia.  We want to do it there and in other places now, like CryptoYug, we support a lot of projects there, but it just doesn't work out for everyone.  There are a couple of trends there that are really
cool and are already quite regularly collecting 10,000 or more there.  And it’s no worse than our St. Petersburg PMF, which is under the state. They have money there like I do, but we do n’t have that kind of money.  And we do it.  And here we all led everyone neutrally
.  That year I made a decision that okay, screw it, I’m not bothering anyone, I other brands there are or who does this.  I will sit neutrally.
does this.  I will sit neutrally. Well, Furlock finished me off first.  Then there's this strange story, yes, that we are the founders of crypto-crazed Russia, that we saved the entire ban on cryptocurrency circulation in Russia.  Well, somehow
cryptocurrency circulation in Russia.  Well, somehow these fantasies need to be divided a little. We are not opposed to the fact that we are one of the participants in the creation of the crypto industry of the Russian Federation.  Well, you are not the ones who
that you saved Cryptocurrency before it was banned. Guys, I have never seen you anywhere that you were rooting for this.  And they never said anything like that directly .  Well, I saw them once and that's it.  Once, believe me, me and
them once and that's it.  Once, believe me, me and our Rakip team, we went, there were probably times when there were five or six events a month, and events a month, and we went to
cryptocurrencies, right?  Well, they really didn’t like us, well, for officials at that time, until 1924, it was such a taboo.  They were afraid.  Well, if you write there, we even had an association called the Russian Association of
Cryptocurrency and Blockchain.  Previously, we renamed the Russian intelligence and blockchain crypto industry sector.  Purely to remove cryptocurrency from there, so that officials are not afraid.  This was the situation.  We even changed that, this was in
21st year, because, well, it was really something like that, mind you .  Now this has changed.  And everyone felt this and decided that now they felt this and decided that now they
everyone wants it, well, I’m not against it, let it all move.  Well guys, think about what you are doing in the formats that exist now.  Let them do anything, the not such bad situations that are
happening now.  Is there any plan for further action after this appeal?  So what happens next?  Well, I think, and how was the idea, you are our vice president of the veterans' community and support of your own.  Well,
my Yurievich Pripadchikami is already saying: "Sanya, let's write a letter of appeal to conduct an investigation into this fact."  He was also simply very outraged by the way this situation was happening.  Well, so that this doesn’t end, we
talked to him and that’s it.  They held their event and then went on to their red-bannered Dubai to hold BLINla Life there.  Then there are the Red Banners, they are great, they declare, well, it’s just that the market there doesn’t look at them either.  And there are
market there doesn’t look at them either.  And there are 45, there it is very powerful.  Well, let's say this is the most helpful.  Well, the tokens aren't the show up there and say, they also offered us to go to Dubai, so let's
hold an event there.  We looked and thought, Russia has enough of us, we won’t interfere.  Although, well then those guys would be shouting: "Here a crayfish came to Dubai, found a clearing, trampled, and all that." There they would probably even be able to enter
There they would probably even be able to enter .  Oh-oh-oh, how could it be? And there they actually offered us a large Arab business to come with us, so that we could start working with them .  And there are very large events there.  We just looked, why bother
getting involved in something where we are not opinion leaders.  There are leaders there, everything is there. Well, if they want to, guys, let them do it there, we don’t mind.  Let them promote the Russian world there .  The Russian world really
needs this, because Russians, all those who are abroad, are now in a very different situation than they were before. speak Russian.  This will not always be good for your health, because it may turn out that there are
people here who are not friendly to us, there are such cases. Well, now it’s already free, it seems to me, I’ve calmed down a little, but before there was a situation where they refused to serve Russians in restaurants somewhere.  Well, there were such cases, and not just one.  And people didn't
feel very well.  The same, well, of course, and in a whole host of countries, yes.  Nowadays, in theory, there are not many countries that are truly loyal.  I know who the guys are who lives abroad, I listen to them.  Yes, it is easier
to list those who remained loyal than to list the rest.  It turns out that the Russians are now practically enemies and have almost created a ghetto in the world.  What's so bad about Russians?  On the contrary, we set an example for everyone by the way we behave, like
Venezuela, Serbia and everyone else.  Well, a couple more, well, Serbia already, you see what’s happening in Serbia.  I won’t be surprised if soon they start shaking themselves, shaking themselves according to a long-tested plan.  Venezuela may also finish soon too.  So,
Venezuela was also subject to sanctions.  I've already been there half a day.  Well, now and now they are right there, they have something to take away.  There are many oil and gas fields .  I even remember how the Tez company blocked transactions.  This was one of the
first and most high-profile blockades, when there was a sanctioned purchase of make his own tobcon, sell oil, but they were immediately extinguished then.  I forgot what it was called.  It was, it was a couple of years ago, three or four years ago.  And they didn't
succeed at all.  Everything is outcast.  Well, what's happening in the world now, we see that America, Trump in general is an interesting guy, a brilliant businessman and but very contradictory.  I think America will remember him.  Here is Trump's rule, it
will be just like the do a lot of interesting things.  He is really trying to adapt the world to suit himself now.  I do
n’t think he’ll succeed, but what he’s doing, if he joins forces Russia, Europe, it seems to me, no one considers him a special leader.  Europe now, it’s like I don’t even know what to say about Europe.  Well, Europe is already a
castrated subject.  Well, before we wanted Switzerland, then France, Italy, how cool it would be to go there, but now you’re looking at what to do there, when now you’re looking at what to do there, when France is already the epicenter of nonsense.  Yes.  Yes.  In
Paris, to go out after 10:00 pm, you have to be a master of sports to shoot well, so that everything can end well.  There is no such thing in Russia.  In Moscow at 10:00 pm, I think you could get something in the alley.  Well, that's what I'm
talking about.  And so Europe, Europe, Europe is their problem if they don’t change this.  They are used to the fact that they are healthy.  Their auto industry is currently going downhill in a strange way.  And the auto industry is planning to come to America in general.
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most reliable platforms.  Good luck. Alexander, I remember this question has been Alexander, I remember this question has been spinning around in my mind for about 15 minutes now and I can’t get around it.  It's absolutely clear to me that the founders of the blockchain, for example, are
people who know how to think, who understand absolutely what's going on, and are not some kind of people who, well, don't know how to think.  It's obvious that the guys know how to think.  And why are they the same one
the guys know how to think.  And why are they the same one that is so unwelcome, unshakable, perhaps even some kind of abscess in relation to the image, in general, the image of the company as a forum, yes, as a
conference.  Why don’t they just, well, throw them out, terminate this earth?  I think they understand this perfectly well, like, in principle, listen, maybe for them this is like a scandal and also a certain PR.  Well, they
and also a certain PR.  Well, they are planning to hold a blockchain event in Dubai in the fall .  Well, maybe for them it will be like, uh, additional advertising.  Maybe the like, uh, additional advertising.  Maybe the goal was to tease.  Well
, maybe they just didn’t pay attention and thought: “Well, yeah, maybe they’re doing it themselves.”  Yes, no one would see it, no one would hear it, because I listen to some comrades and scripts like this: “This is all [ __ ], guys, this is [ __ ], this is [ __ ].”
What will happen next?  Let's then gather together all the Ukrainian media outlets that criticize us and make them our media partners.  Let's.  And what will this be for?  This is a furlock.  This is also profitable.   They read it, and he encourages people there now,
thanks to this blockchain forum, to subscribe to forlock there and everything else and to read it.  And it says there: "We do not welcome."  Tydydy, let's can donate money.  This is also the same option.
Well, really, I'll be honest, there is no explanation.  It seems like the guys are for Russia.  I also can’t understand the logic.  No, well, to be honest, there were no bad calls from them.  Yes, they
did something stupid in 22, when they decided to hold a motor rally with these sports cars during a special operation , or something else.  Then there were scandals when it turned out that half of the cars
driving there were rented. Someone there filed a lawsuit against the organizers of this car rally for fraud. How did it end?  Then the happened next is unknown.  Because,
as I understood it, they called for, let's go for a ride, like everything will be agreed upon, everything is okay, the party is behind us, the homeland is there and everything else, no one will stop us at all .  And then they were stopped.  And those people there paid 400,000,
as it was written there, for the rental of technical cars there.  Well, well, in general, it's fun there.  Everyone was acting cool, everyone was driving cool cars, and half of them were in rented cars.  That's why, I think, many scandals began to break out
further, because they, and not only these, but also others, were detained, fined and everything else.  People who wanted to get publicity from this case, they got publicity, but they got negative publicity.  Well, back then it was also a confusing situation, right?
Why this, why did they do this?  Well, there was some PR, but there was also anti-PR, most likely.  Well, then we went to warmer countries and started doing it there.  Maybe it was just to show how cool we are, so that this news would be for the guys,
mileage.  Let's go see what kind of event they are holding there.  There is logic here. People, every person is a dreamer and is looking for how to be successful, how to attract an audience.  Right now, this scandal that is happening to us now
, this is also black PR.  This is also PR.  Sometimes black PR is even better PR.  Maybe, God willing, as they said, more people will come to them to see what it is, whether they will have a forelock hanging there at the moment of
will be interesting even just to watch this.  If I were in their place, I would still remove the furlock from place, I would still remove the furlock from exclusive partners, draw conclusions, and, most likely, at least apologize to the community.  Because it
turns out that they are kreptomaniacs.  What are we, who are we for?  Well, yes, well, forgive me, I don’t know. Forgive me, let the competent authorities sort this out, but the authorities themselves did not notice this.  I see there that
Roskomnadzor banned us first, when it was stated, and now they are working again.  The ban has been lifted.  The guys at the Russian Conservatory are also thinking about something.  They didn't remove anything. The call remained, it remained.  And this media outlet is unbanned in the Russian Federation.
What is this?  Well, as you know, sometimes we chop very sharply with sabers, and sometimes we are even afraid to hit someone on the butt with our swords.  Alright, guys, we need to decide something already.  Either we
do something and we will be respected or we will be looked at.  What's wrong with that?   I do what I want.  He won't do anything.  I'll come and shout here.  If and, for example, there would be crayfish, then those
organizers would be gobbled up, damn it, and everyone would be slaughtered right there.  Of course, yes.  And simply fly in and shoot everyone.  They won't even be allowed to start an agreement, they will say: "Are you crazy?" And for us, well, this is a separate issue, I
believe that there should be bodies for holding events in any of our countries where an event is held.  Well, if you are holding an event, whoever is matter.  Yes, I know that everyone is trying, they are watching.  Well, occasionally someone has
scammers there, but there have always been a lot of them in crypto.  And then, you know, say: “You’re a swindler, you’re not a swindler, today you’re a super entrepreneur, and tomorrow you’ve screwed people.”  Yes.  And what will you do?  Well, well, in such things, we still
need to figure out who is making statements like they are pure, bad people, and they should not participate in these events, because, well, I know, there, well, everyone is looking at someone who has money, of course, more money doesn’t
smell, as many say, they’ll pay more money and find a reason.  There, whoever pays 100 million, there might be a real swindler, a real swindler, and they'll let him in, because 100 million is money, maybe.  Or maybe,
we don’t need your money either. Go ahead and run your own events.”  Well, in this format.  Well, yes.  Alexander, I'd now like to return to the raqib, or rather, to your professional activities, and hear any insights
or thoughts you have regarding regulation, because the main key regulation, because the main key events happened in 2024.  And not only regarding mining, but what is clearly formulated and without gaps, where there is
clear regulation, clear rules, that is mining.  And the rest of the sectors, they are all in question.  And now we see, or rather, not now, but, I think, throughout this entire year and the second half of last year.  At least I
last year.  At least I see it that the same P2P exchange enters into a gray area.  He was in the gray zone, but now he is entering some kind of black zone.  Well, actually it's not like that.  I see an experimental right-wing regime,
which is the Central Bank.  We've been talking a lot about this here, that it's a talking about this too.  There will be pros and cons that we have in Russia. Minus one.  About the exchange, yes.  This is, well, not even an exchange, it’s transient payments to include
everything together, because what is an exchange? This is when cache in cache or cache without now, without NAant.  It's just that now, well, I'm talking about a wide range of volumes, because if we're talking about big business and cross-border
transfers, that's one thing.  And if we're talking about small businesses and the guys who independently change completely different volumes and earn a stable income from it.  The problem is different.  There are a lot of triangles now.  There are actually a
lot of guys who are starting out, everything seems to be going great for them, money starts coming in, they start living well, but they relax. And the moment comes, well, the same one , as they say, our Ukrainian brothers,
who are not sleeping.  And I constantly see how they are deceiving the people of Russia.  And they are trying to use it more and more to get cash from people, to withdraw money, yes, through crypto, because crypto, well, someone installed crypto ATMs
, damn, the idiot thought that this was a super-duper situation there.  In general, it’s actually a not say what kind of bank we have.   The largest bank in Russia. They called the man and said: "Friend, we need something like this, you, well, told him something, and
transfer so much money to the card or there .”  He translated.  So what next?  Who is the accomplice in the case?  Bank.  The bank clearly states the
terms and conditions, but it could still happen that a person will later sue the bank, claiming that they transferred money to fraudsters through their bank, and it went somewhere. Banks, logically, have any
transaction, there is an account, a card, everything else. I know of cases where people have even mistakenly I know of cases where people have even mistakenly sent money, even legitimate money, and "Well, what can we do? Go to the bank where the money was sent, and
deal with it there."  Things like that.  But in crypto it’s a completely different topic.  In crypto, it’s faster for us than in a bank. At least they will process it at the bank for now, although the money is coming in quickly now and at the bank, at least within the country.  Yes.  And
some wallet, and the wallet is not in Russia at all.  And you definitely have n't promoted this money anymore, because this money has left your wallet further and further.  And they hatched easily and naturally.  At the
moment when you were cheated, this money was normal.  Nobody knows about them, wallet that they used for this matter.  Nobody knew that it was a scam.  He has never been to any of the Kristov or Figis bases.  At that
moment he was good.  When the time came, they came there a week later, two weeks later , well, by the time they woke up, this wallet had become bad.  And everyone who walked in this wallet, they, it turns out, already become grayish.  Yes.  Here's
an option for you, something that people already, well, why even many people are making deals now. then, when the transaction is completed, they make the next wallet.  Firstly, so that your enemies don’t track how you do it, and secondly, so that your wallet doesn’t
become compromised.  Well, there is a lot of safety stuff here, it doesn't smell like a field at all .  I'm looking now, I'm kind of an employee myself and I see the situation that when I the guys came to me and said, we were bragging so much, I said, what's your
security situation there?  We took a three-month course at the FSB agency on protecting investment security.  It's like there, or you listen to them and it's so funny.  In fact, these are the exchanges that had problems, it’s because they
didn’t monitor the situation a little, that security is one of the most important things.  Now, after another six months, this course would become outdated immediately after six months.  Yes.  Yes.  No, there's a lot of things here.  In fact, there are no courses that are eternal and they may
have rules that, if you follow them, will, well, protect you 50 percent. Those that are technical, well, you're not a genius in this matter.  And there are certain rules that can actually be followed, and they will be... Well, here's an
I had a book on how to protect yourself from the Internet, and there was this case, well, this was when social networks were actively developing, there, well, this example actively developing, there, well, this example was given in England, a girl
won good money at the races, sums of money, and in her joy she took a photo with a ticket. Uh, and Instagram was posted right away.  When she came to receive the money, the money had already ticket.  Well, the quality of our photography is good now.  We came to Kasya and received money for this
ticket .  Here's an example of something elementary.  There are people in Russia who start doing all sorts of things, they just want to show off, they love to show off every single thing.  It's always been like this.  Well, I
use it myself, I see when many people, even those on Telegram, make their stories there with their families, something completely different.  You watch and little by little you understand his inner circle, who works with him , who his partners are.  People still
take photos there, and no one thinks that something will happen tomorrow. For example, a scammer cheated everyone, and you look at his story.  Here is Vasya the fluff.  No, take pictures.  This doesn't bother anyone.  No, listen, well, if there are the
right people, they will find everything.   The example will be different.  A nasty gang was working in St. Petersburg, stealing Russian money from a construction site. Nobody could prove this whole thing.  And by chance, one of these organized crime members
took a photo of a drinking party on a yacht.  And on this yacht there were three who were identified as the head of the department, the head of the case, and everything became clear, how they did all this, who were protecting it, that is, well, just
took a photo, posted it, and brother, he’s not sleeping, he can count all this.   Yes. sleeping, he can count all this.   Yes. Well, things like that.  And the same thing.  And we ourselves sometimes help scammers do this.  I was also once almost scammed by scammers
, to be honest.  I myself have already fallen for it, because they myself have already fallen for it, because they carried out a very interesting format of divorce.  This is not done for ordinary people.  This was clearly aimed at me, to be honest.
Well, at the last moment I understood this matter, but at first I was really taken in, tell you, because all the famous people will now be beaten up using this method and they could really be scammed.  I only understood when they
said: “You’ll receive a number now, send it to us so we can start a video call.”  Right.  I understood this whole situation, because, ah, ordinary people can quite normally give away numbers and all that crap.  I was also
taken in, I thought, yes, great, guys, interesting, serious.  Then he says to me: “We’ll have a video call now, let’s send you the confirmation number, we’ll be in a closed channel from now on.”  Yes,
I understand.  Say thank you.  Goodbye, friends.  The guys from the Ukrainian Armed Forces also tried to call me about my old job.  There they tried to trick me, saying that you are a former employee there, like, you know, now there is an investigation going on there, there, that under
Article 275, well, this treason, there is such information there, that your employees there, former or current, are working in the interests of interests of Ukraine.  Well, they sent a decree there.
If it were someone, well, if I were n't who I am, I would fall for it.  Well, the letter from the Minister of Defense. Check these there, tyd-ty, place 275.
[ __ ].  People there immediately became scared.  That's it, it's prison now.  Well, this work is set up on an industrial scale.  Well, I would say what their problem is.  Why teach them so that they work better?  And this is truly an industrial
scale.  Yes.  Well, there is a cool center there. Sometime in 21st year, the Russian community approached me about Rakip.  They were cheated out of a total of about 10 million euros. They each have from 10,000 there to 200 there and all sorts of things
They each have from 10,000 there to 200 there and all sorts of things .  And they were not residents of Russia, many were residents of Germany, France there.  Well, they turned to us.  We started this investigation topic.  You Yes, well, Russians, well, with their citizenship, they worked
through dating sites, like there, well, the practice is simple, a girl there, a photo, hello, friend, my brother is a trader there, do you know how much money he has, let's try.  They take, for example, throw in 1,000, now you'll see how
they earned 5,000 with 1,000, well, they make fake accounts, how, yes, you need to study it carefully on the Internet.  Well, that's how it ended, they were cheated out of 10 million euros.  When they started looking into it, they realized that the call center that was scamming them was located in
Lviv. The Germans, law enforcement officers, police officers, and police officers opened a case, but did not refuse to go to Ukraine, to Lviv, to detain him. And so it ended.  And then the
understand, now if you want to screw someone over, go to you want to screw someone in Ukraine, go to Russia. All Americans use the same thing.  Well, right now the
international law enforcement system is lagging behind Interpol, which lagging behind Interpol, which was a truly great thing, but now it, well, doesn’t work.  Now there is a chance that someone will be detained.
someone will be detained. very difficult.  There are now many that cannot be extradited. I understand.  Thank you.  And here is one of the last questions I want to ask.  I often of the last questions I want to ask.  I often ask this question to my guests.  What do you think about the
ask this question to my guests.  What do you think about the global exchanges that are currently operating, that is, BYBook, Xbitget,
well, all the popular exchanges.  Look, the reality is that everyone wants to work. Everyone understands that the Russian market is large, but there is a political component.  If everything with politics is resolved now, it will be very interesting.  In fact, we have
a lot of brilliant people in Russia who, I see, are now creating very interesting schemes, who, well, once told me that if they created an exchange in Russia, it would immediately be banned.  Yeah, guys, that's not right at all .  If you created an exchange, everyone has long since
.  If you created an exchange, everyone has long since learned how to lose track of it. Well, the same Garantex or others.  He existed for a long time and they couldn’t ban him, but he knows how to do it.  And not
every exchange is ready, because there are people behind the exchanges now.  Well, no one will work for an exchange that you don't know who is behind it, right?  Well, For example, I wouldn’t go to this exchange.  I don’t understand who is standing with her and what will
happen there, how it will be. What a strange jurisdiction.  This is a very bad situation.  And when you know what is behind it , you feel calmer, you understand where to simply go, with whom to address the claims.  This is a normal situation.
We talked with the Iranians, the Iranians were very interested in setting up their exchange in Russia discussing this matter with them.  I think it's a very real story.  You just need to know who is behind it.  Exchanges.  And the funny thing is that right now there are
cool top 10 exchanges there.  Now some new exchange will come.  It really can, if it figures out how to take the audience away from the take the audience away from the current top exchanges, and a small exchange can
start and grow into a large one.  A lot depends on how you do it.  I just see it in reality, well, you know, in a year a person becomes a billionaire, and a year later he’s already a pensioner, as they say.
He has no money, only enough for his pension.  He's got your 50,000 rubles there.  earns.  This is a real situation.  Digital has changed the world. If before I met with people with their large businesses, they would say: "We are interested in projects
say: "We are interested in projects that, uh, have a payback period of 5-10 years, now you meet with the same kind of business." He says: “We are interested in projects from because they've started to change things like that, because now with projects,
never get it back.  Everything can change.  The world changes instantly.  Today the rules are one way, and tomorrow bam, everything is different.  Tomorrow, bam, Trump won't do anything, he's in a bad mood, he'll just write a decree
bad mood, he'll just write a decree banning tenders.  And what will all the people do next?  Well, yes.  Still, I want to return to the question of potential insider information, about what we can expect in terms of regulation this year, maybe
next year, and so on. What are the next sectors that will come under regulation?  It is not strictly regulated.  Nobody is going to jail anyone, shoot anyone, or anything like that .  There are simply many things that are not understood here.
clear as the PR, which is now an experimental legal regime, which is exactly what the entire ecosystem of crypto, mining, transacting payments and all this is doing, it works.  And in Russia, I'm sure I won't lie, but the
last time there, when there was a report, we discussed this, about 10 trillion dollars, probably, is going on per year in the Transaction Grid with crypto.  And when we spoke, they calculated that 3-4 million
citizens are currently involved in the fortress theme.  And there are plans that in 2025, 2026, their numbers will increase somewhere.  Well, well, everyone is aiming for the twenty-sixth year that 50% of the Russian population will use this thing
because it is convenient.  Which one?  Dd sixth, twenty-sixth. Cross-border payments, like customs clearance for all of this, are now important from a legislative standpoint. Because, well, if you paid in crypto, all of this is being resolved now, everything is already in place
well, as we think, a company, for example, might end up with for example, might end up with wants to buy some product with these 100 bitcoins,
non-cash rubles, well, so that they pay some equivalent, because when the customs officer comes to customs... I haven't seen anything like that yet, although I've seen something like that with cars .  The guys said that someone paid in crypto and customs accepted the
case.  But you'll need to look at what you had there, for example, whether you had Bitcoin or UD or something else, you need to split the chat and make it look like you really had what amount you had, so they can charge you for the customs
duty.  Well, if you bought a car there, for example, for 5 million rubles.  Ah, well, you bought it, for example, in bitcoins one bitcoin, or rather five bitcoins, that’s 5 million. Well, let’s do it this way.  He must count it somehow.  There are no instructions anymore on what to do
if a person bought it for fortified currency, where the cross rate is, and how to look at it.  The Federal Tax Service is currently doing this for the federal service.  Well, not yet.  The Federal Tax Service already exists.  They are already legal here, if you mine anything else there, you pay not at the moment you
moment.  Today you earned a month, on the fifth you earned one bitcoin.  From this bitcoin you should be able to win back some 13-25.  Well, it all depends on some 13-25.  Well, it all depends on what kind of work you have.  And
now it’s on the Federal Tax Service and these cross-rates are hanging there, exchange rates and everything else.  Well, not everything is so clear there.  I even went in and started watching.  Tyks-tyks-tyks.  Damn, this is where it really Service. We had a working group meeting, and we approached the Federal Tax Service and said, "
Let's write practical recommendations for miners and anyone who wants to become a miner."  And there are eight points there, all of this is laid out in articles, how to register, how to apply for the registry, how to do it, how to pay
taxes, how control is carried out, how to conduct an audit, well, so that it doesn’t guilty.  We are currently actively writing about this topic.  This too, well, together with the Ministry of Finance
and the Ministry of Energy, we want the Ministry of Energy, I think, to change the situation.  We have a unified energy system in our country, but we also have an immeasurable amount of mineral resources, from gas, oil, coal and everything else
now, for which demand is actually falling not because no Well, the political component.  We are supplying less and less gas, and we are also not supplying coal in the same volumes as before.  It is better
to refine oil than to do anything with it .  And this is the idea we are developing: transform them into a new equivalent of selling our financial assets, so to
speak.  Yes.  And this, well, should turn out very well.  This is a real trend now, I think it will be appreciated.  Further, the transnational exchangers themselves want to be regulated somehow, because the cars are white, and, of course,
gray ones are also ready.  They just don't give a damn about this thing.  I know some guys, there this thing.  I know some guys, there was a similar case last year, when the widow of a SVO member converted money into crypto , and the whole case was under control of the
Investigative Committee.  The guys just converted 13 million into crypto.  This just converted 13 million into crypto.  This crypto went to comrades.  to Ukraine. “The guys had nothing to do with it, they were just fulfilling their function.”  But they blurted out
the function because they were doing something in sulfur that was unclear and everything else.  And that's why they used the classic triangle .  And here they found themselves in those triangles with the participants and the criminals.  I don’t even
know what will happen to him, because they were essentially put in pretrial detention as executors, yes. Send if they sent.  Well, you understand, the law enforcement officers will never find those to whom they sent it, because they are not there, yes, and it turns out that the scapegoat is the
guy through whom it was sent, they supposedly returned the money .  Most likely, he was given a suspended sentence .  And so they could have been given 275 for treason because they sent money in support.
daily basis, and frankly speaking, I am not familiar with them.  Everyone understands that this needs to be resolved somehow.  And this also needs an explanation, an explanation of how to do it.  Well, I know exchangers that also make decisions.  The cops came to some exchange offices, and
some old lady came there too, and she needed to send 7 million to her granddaughter.  He says to her: "Grandma, what grandson? Do you want one? Are you even a crypto-vetto? When did I first see one in my life?"  No, here's my wallet, I have 7 million here. They made her
write that I congratulated her.  It’s you who send this money to my grandson, I have no complaints. They also filmed everything on camera.  A week later, some guys in uniform came and said: “A crime has occurred in your office.”  Ivan Ivanovna
Ivanovna so-and-so was robbed of 7 million rubles. They say: "Sorry, guys, this is a document, here is the deal where they received their 0 to 0.2% for this deal as intermediaries. Here is her letter, a receipt, an explanation of what she is sending to her grandson,
here is the video recording.  They stamped their feet, stamped their feet, and left. Well, yes, well, that, well, not everyone will do it like that .  This is, you know, a whole one. No, well, the big ones, as far as I know, have been making them for a long time.
statement, which is written by a person who changes an amount over 5,000 dollars or 10,000 dollars, and some write something like that themselves, they all , as they do, then it wouldn’t have happened at all .  Yes.  The same transparent
blockchain that Rosmonitoring created will check wallets and where to send money .  Well, in general, it’s a completely normal situation.  And it is really possible to have a real earn any supernatural money there anyway .  Well, of course, some people
0.2 03% in interest. That's how they earn from the very stressful.  It also depends on the volume, right?  Not volume.  If you have billions, of course, 0.2 is normal money.
Okay, I get it.  That's all my questions for today .  Thank you very much for coming, friends.  Well, write in the comments what you think.  all useful links and links that serve as proof and some explanations.  Our
conversation today, including a letter with an appeal from the crypto community, is so that you can, as they say, familiarize yourself with everything, look at it, and read it for your own judgment.  Once again, I say, write your opinion in the comments.  Well, that's all
, actually.  See you in the next videos. [applause] [music]