[0:00] Every day, thousands of people argue [0:02] about computers online. Whether it's [0:04] hardware folk arguing over which GPU to [0:06] use or the gaming fans discussing why [0:08] Red Dead Redemption looks better than [0:09] Hello Kitty Island Adventure. But, what [0:11] do we, the writers of LTT, think about [0:14] these questions? Can we all agree which [0:16] phone is the best phone to ever phone? [0:18] Or, will we just yell again about how [0:20] ray tracing just isn't worth it? Let's [0:22] not mess around. We're going to start [0:24] with the first question. What is [0:25] stopping most people from switching to [0:27] Linux? My opinion on what's preventing [0:29] most people from switching is the fear [0:31] of doing something wrong. Maybe it's [0:33] picking the wrong distro or not knowing [0:36] the right question to ask in order to [0:37] set up gaming. I think there's kind of [0:39] just a general fear about touching it [0:42] that I think prevents most people from [0:43] switching. [0:44] >> I'm ready. [0:46] >> Wow, you guys all disagree with me. [0:48] Okay. You were the first one to hold up [0:49] a sign. [0:50] >> You're like kind of on track, but I [0:51] think it's like a decision paralysis. [0:53] >> Sure. [0:53] >> There's too many options. And so, yes, [0:56] exactly. I'm too afraid to do things, [0:57] but it's because there's too many. [0:59] Whereas, like an Apple, [1:01] I'm there's only one option. So, I just [1:03] pick one in an Apple. You pick it. Or, [1:05] you pick Windows and you're done. [1:07] Whereas, with Linux, all of a sudden [1:08] there's more things to dive into. I [1:10] don't want to have to pick which fork of [1:14] Linux that I'm using. [1:15] >> I mean, do you guys agree with that or [1:17] do you have a different [1:18] >> Yeah, I I've I've got a lot of the same [1:20] kind of sentiment, but a lot of it's [1:22] really coming down to people's comfort [1:23] levels. They're comfortable with what [1:25] they know and they're comfortable with [1:26] what they have. They don't want to [1:28] venture into the unknown and [1:31] find out that they may not like it [1:33] there. [1:33] >> At the end of the day, people are lazy. [1:35] >> Yeah, like it's just true. Like it's and [1:37] it's a lot of work to switch your stuff. [1:38] That's why people don't want to switch [1:39] phones. [1:40] >> Yeah, like how many people drive Android [1:42] for forever just because that's what [1:44] they bought first? [1:44] >> And how many people have been on an [1:46] iPhone cuz that's the first thing they [1:47] bought. People are just lazy and [1:48] switching anything is a lot of effort. [1:51] Even if it's easy, the idea of changing. [1:53] >> And I think it goes back to why I I it [1:55] up of like it's just the fear of it is [1:58] is ultimately what I think still stops [1:59] people and I think all of these kind of [2:01] gather under one roof almost of just [2:03] like it's the unknown that might make [2:05] people not switch. I spent [2:08] >> a long time trying to convince Shay to [2:11] switch to a bank so that we could get a [2:13] $500 cash promo. [2:17] And I was like, all you have to do [2:18] sorry, my phone is going off. Oh right, [2:20] I have a doctor's appointment. [2:22] >> Right now? [2:22] >> Yeah, I forgot about this shoot this [2:25] uh [2:26] >> [laughter] [2:27] >> How long is it? Quick. [2:28] >> Hello. All right, I just I'll be just a [2:30] second. Can I put you on hold? [2:32] >> Good. How are you? [2:33] >> I guess while Adam takes that phone [2:34] call, you guys can listen to this [2:35] message from our sponsor. [2:36] >> This wasn't the drip I had in mind. [2:39] If only he had a pair of Vessis. [2:42] It was supposed to be a quick job. Get [2:44] in, snag the new weekend sneaker, get [2:47] out. [2:48] All the rookie needed to do was go to [2:50] vessi.com/ltt, [2:52] but he didn't. [2:54] Then everything went sideways. [3:00] >> There you go. You can get it. I believe [3:02] in you. [3:02] >> There you go. Are console exclusive [3:04] games a good thing for gamers? [3:08] >> No. [3:11] Yeah. [3:12] >> Uh consumer choice is always going to be [3:14] a benefit being able to play more games [3:17] on the platforms that you already own [3:18] will in the long term benefit you. [3:21] I think that it's interesting to see the [3:23] flip recently from the communities about [3:26] asking for exclusives back because they [3:28] want to like justify the reason that [3:30] they bought [3:31] >> Yeah. [3:32] >> an Xbox or a PS5, right? But I think [3:34] that is just a reflection of the [3:37] predatory nature of exclusivity. It [3:38] invented a reason for you to have to buy [3:41] something. Whereas now, you don't have [3:44] to buy that thing, you have the choice [3:45] to buy the game on the platform that you [3:47] want. So that PS5 is no longer [3:50] valuable for its exclusivity. It's It's [3:52] just you They're just showing how the [3:53] tactic worked and now people are like [3:55] feeling bad because they spent a lot of [3:57] money on a PS5 [3:59] and there's no reason that they couldn't [4:00] have [music] just kept with their Xbox [4:01] or whatever. I will say the only [4:03] positive that I think can come from [4:05] exclusive games is it could [4:07] theoretically drive competition in the [4:09] gaming space of like really trying to [4:11] make a really stand out title for that [4:13] console. But saying that, I think there [4:16] are way more cons to having exclusivity [4:19] than that [4:20] >> pro. [4:20] >> Yeah, I think it's only good for the [4:21] people making the hardware. [music] [4:23] >> Yeah. [4:23] >> And it also used to make a lot more [4:25] sense because before if you're making a [4:27] game for an N64 versus PS1, they're [4:30] completely different. [4:30] >> Yeah. [4:31] >> You have to develop it completely [4:32] differently. And so now everything's [4:33] basically a computer. And everything's [4:35] in the cloud anyway so you don't have to [4:37] worry about like oh CD versus cartridge. [4:39] >> Yeah. [4:40] >> So at this point, no. It doesn't even [4:42] help the game developer. [4:43] >> No. No. They're just locked into [4:44] something. [4:45] >> Yeah. [4:45] >> And you go like well Nintendo has like [4:47] all these cool like exclusive games. I [4:48] was like yeah. [4:49] >> And that's why you're buying a Switch. [4:51] >> why I bought a Switch too. [4:52] >> And now you have to buy a Switch to play [4:54] these cool games as opposed to being [4:55] able to play those games on their own [4:56] merit. [4:56] >> Also Nintendo uh [4:58] >> Oh, they're awful. [4:58] >> They're terrible so like yeah. [5:00] >> They're corporate tyrants. Like [5:01] [laughter] [5:02] they make great games and beloved [5:04] content and [music] they're terrible. [5:06] >> Corporations suck. [5:07] >> I would never be part of a corporation. [5:09] Wait. [5:10] >> Wait a minute. [laughter] [5:14] >> Is 8 gigs of VRAM enough today? I will [5:18] say yes depending on your resolution [5:22] that you're playing at. [5:23] >> I agree with you. [5:24] >> I disagree. [5:25] >> Oh, you do agree okay. I think at 1080p, [5:27] 8 gigs is still totally fine. The [5:29] problem is 1440p is becoming a lot more [5:31] common these days. A lot of people are [5:32] gaming on their TVs in the living rooms. [5:34] That's 4K more than likely. Some people [5:36] have 4K monitors and and anything above [5:39] 1080p, no. You need at least like 10 to [5:41] 12 gigs of VRAM. [5:42] >> Yeah, I think it's enough like today but [5:44] I think it's It's of those things of [5:45] like if you buy an 8-gig card now, [5:48] you're going to be kind of screwing [5:49] yourself over for in 2 to 3 years. It's [5:51] kind of a difficult like future-proofing [5:53] for your gaming experience. [5:54] >> I was frustrated that there was only 8 [5:56] gigs of VRAM on the 3070. [5:58] >> Yeah. [5:59] >> years ago. I happily bought the card. I [6:01] wanted the card to last 5 plus years. [6:03] I'm like 8 gigs is not going to be [6:05] enough in 5 years. [6:06] >> Yeah. [6:06] >> It's like something to really consider [6:08] if you're going to be currently [6:09] upgrading. If you currently have 8 gigs, [6:10] like I wouldn't worry about it. [6:11] >> Sure. [6:12] >> Yeah, that's a great way of wording [6:13] >> Ride it out, but if you're like [6:14] upgrading, consider it. But also with [6:16] things like upscalers continuing to [6:19] improve in terms of image quality, [6:20] requiring lower render resolution, it [6:22] might be able to extend [6:24] >> Yeah. [6:25] >> the lifespan of 8-gig cards. [6:26] >> DLSS, love it or hate it, has done [6:28] wonders for extending the lifespan of [6:30] cards. [6:31] >> Next one. [6:32] >> Oh, buying used hardware is an [6:34] unnecessary risk. You should just buy [6:37] new. I think there are some cases where [6:39] I would agree with that, but I think 90% [6:42] of the time buying a used PC hardware [6:45] thing, as long as you kind of know what [6:46] you're looking for, is there physical [6:48] damage, how long has it been in use for. [6:51] I think that I disagree with that [6:53] statement, and I think buying used is [6:54] totally acceptable. You just might need [6:56] to do a little bit more research on it. [6:58] >> I agree with your disagree. [6:59] >> Yeah, I'll better I'll better agree. [7:00] >> Yeah, there you go. [7:01] >> I'll better agree. [7:02] >> I disagree with his [7:03] >> Yeah. [7:04] >> disagree. [7:04] >> You go first. [7:05] >> Yeah. [7:05] >> Unnecessary risk. It is not needed, [7:08] especially with new hardware. Also, I [7:10] think that the used market, thanks to [7:12] the uh easy accessibility of market [7:15] places across the internet, the amount [7:17] of value on the used market for an [7:18] informed consumer has dramatically [7:21] worsened. [7:22] >> Dude, you used to be able to get any [7:23] electronic like 3 months later 50% off. [7:26] >> Yeah, because but now everybody now [7:27] everybody knows what they bought. [7:29] >> 80%. [7:30] >> what I have, right? [7:31] >> And so what you end up doing is you end [7:34] up buying something that doesn't have a [7:35] warranty, [7:36] um has a uh usage history that you don't [7:39] know, you can't return it easily. [7:40] >> Yep. [7:41] >> It is a legitimate risk, and it's hard [7:44] to find [7:45] >> [music] [7:46] >> those deals. And with prices feeling so [7:48] inflated all the time, right? Like there [7:49] you can get a used card that feels like [7:52] a good deal because that current card, [7:55] like the 40 your 4070, is selling at [7:58] $200 over MSRP. [7:59] >> Yeah. [8:00] >> So, when they're selling it at MSRP, a [8:02] year old, what a steal. It feels like a [8:04] good deal. And [laughter] but you're [8:05] just incurring you're just you are [8:07] incurring risk. Do I think it's [8:09] that big of a risk? As somebody who's [8:11] sold and also purchased a lot of [8:13] hardware, like used, I am yet to be [8:15] burned in a bad way from buying used [8:18] hardware. [8:18] >> Knock on wood for that one. [8:20] >> Like I got lots of used hard drives that [8:21] I'm sure are just waiting to die. [8:24] >> I would I was going to say hard drives [8:25] are one of the few things I wouldn't buy [8:27] used. [8:28] >> And that was what I brought up with like [8:30] depending on how long it's been used [8:31] for. And like there are things you can [8:32] check with hard drives, right? You can [8:34] check smart stats if the buyer will let [8:36] you. [8:36] >> doesn't tell you if it's been knocked [8:38] around, though. Like I killed three [8:40] drives in a row because Amazon couldn't [8:42] figure out how to ship a hard drive [8:43] properly. [8:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. That's [8:45] >> I just don't buy hard drives off Amazon [8:47] anymore. [8:47] >> Yeah. I mean, I buy like recertified [8:49] drives, and I know that there's a risk [8:50] with recertified drives where if the [8:52] controller was the bad part of it, yeah, [8:54] there's a fresh controller on it. You [8:55] don't know anything about the longevity [8:56] of the drives. But when you buy from [8:58] like a certified like reseller, [9:00] >> Server part deals, whatever. [9:01] >> they come with a warranty. [9:03] >> Yes. [9:03] >> And I've claimed the warranty. [9:05] >> Recertified's a bit of a different [9:07] category than used, though, too. [9:08] >> Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't call it like [9:10] used. [9:10] >> Used plus. [9:11] >> Yeah. [9:12] >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. [9:13] >> All righty. Question number six. [9:15] >> Mac devices are better for [9:17] professionals. This is a hard one. It [9:19] almost comes back to the whole [9:21] discussion about console exclusives. [9:23] What about the Mac exclusive software? [9:25] Really depends on what you're doing [9:27] because workload dependent, you may not [9:30] have a choice. [9:31] >> Mhm. [9:32] >> You may have to be using a Mac because [9:34] it's got the best software for what you [9:36] want to do. You may have to use a PC [9:39] with Windows because it's got the best [9:41] software that you can be using. That may [9:43] lock you out of Linux as an option as [9:45] well. I'm going to disagree with it. [9:47] >> Yeah, I guess I agree this looks awkward [9:49] cuz now we're thumbs up with you, but I [9:50] agree with David. [9:51] >> I agree so yeah, we're thumbs upping I'm [9:53] thumbs I agree with David. [9:54] >> That he disagrees. [9:55] >> Yeah. [9:55] >> Yeah, okay. [9:56] >> [laughter] [9:57] >> Yeah, I think it basically you recapped [9:59] it pretty good. It's really hard to use [10:01] the blanket term professionals though. [10:03] Professional what? Like are you a [10:05] professional emailer? Because then no, [10:07] you don't need a MacBook. Are you a [10:09] professional Final Cut Pro editor? Then [10:12] yes, you probably need a MacBook. [10:14] There's infinite number of professions [10:16] out there. So having a blanket term like [10:18] that, no, I would not say Mac devices [10:20] are better. [10:20] >> I could be just be ignorant cuz I'm not [10:22] an Apple user, but how many softwares [10:23] are limited to [music] Apple that don't [10:24] have a Windows equivalent? [10:27] >> A lot of it's in the creative space. [10:28] >> Really? [10:29] >> Yeah. [10:29] >> But all of Adobe [10:30] >> Adobe is cross-platform on both, but I [10:32] mean if you grow up as a Final Cut [10:34] >> person because you bought your MacBook. [10:36] >> Yeah, but you can learn Premiere. [10:37] >> It's really easy to say that until [10:39] you've been someone who's growing up [10:40] with a software. It's a huge reason [10:41] Adobe has such a chokehold on the [10:43] industry because they got into schools [10:45] early and then people grow up with it. [10:47] >> It's less the big industry software and [10:49] more the like niche add-ons that [10:53] for specific workflows because [10:55] in the creative sphere there's a lot of [10:57] like just Mac users. So people will make [11:00] support it like things that support [11:01] workflows on Mac. Those things can also [11:03] be found on other operating systems. [11:04] >> Sure. [11:04] >> Yeah. [11:05] >> One thing I will say is that I have [11:06] noticed that there are cases where [11:08] software is better on the Mac version [11:11] than the Windows version. And I think in [11:13] those cases that's where it could be [11:15] better for professionals. Adobe Premiere [11:17] is a prime example of that. It [11:20] I was going to swear. It sucks on [11:23] Windows, especially AMD chips. I have [11:25] had way less issues with Premiere on [11:27] Mac. [11:28] >> Really? [11:28] >> Then yes. Saying that, it's Premiere so [11:30] it still kind of sucks. [11:32] >> [music] [11:32] >> But overall, that's a use case that I've [11:35] had a better experience with. I also [11:36] think that there is an aura that comes [11:38] from opening a MacBook as opposed to a [11:40] Windows laptop. [11:40] >> Oh, yeah. [11:41] >> When you're going at your business [11:42] meetings, right? I think that's like [11:44] literally a thing whether we like it or [11:45] not. [11:46] >> People made fun of me for the whole [11:47] social aspect of me buying an iPhone, [11:49] but like there is a social aspect to [11:52] getting work done on a Mac. Whether you [11:54] agree with it or not, people, it is a [11:56] thing. [11:57] >> You go into the boardroom and you open [11:58] up your Chromebook, [12:00] people are going to think about that. [12:01] >> [laughter] [12:02] >> It's not I'm not I'm not trying to like [12:04] Use your Chromebook if it's exactly what [12:06] you need. There's literally nothing [12:07] wrong with it. I'm just saying that that [12:09] people [12:10] humans are dumb and weird and our brains [12:13] make a million quick judgments in a snap [12:15] second. [12:16] >> That aura can go both ways with a [12:18] MacBook too. [12:18] >> Sure. [12:19] >> Yeah, that's true. That's true. You [12:20] >> Oh, you use a Mac. [12:21] >> in with like a MacBook, you walk in and [12:23] you're like, "Hello, starving artists." [12:24] And you walk in with like a MacBook Pro [12:26] and you're like, "Let's talk." And it's [12:27] like everyone's like [12:29] >> All right, Adam. Next one. [12:32] >> Are folding phones really worth the [12:34] extra price? [12:36] Nah, man. Like they suck. They're [12:39] They're bad. Oh, I'm sorry. They're not [12:41] bad. That's way too reductive. Folding [12:44] phones have such an intense [music] [12:46] price premium without providing [12:47] substantial [12:49] benefits to workflows unless you are [12:51] very specific people. It's a similar [12:53] question to being like, "Is an RTX [12:55] [music] Pro 6000 worth the price to jump [12:58] over a a 5090?" Unless you are a very [13:01] specific person, no. [13:03] And 99% of what you can get done on your [13:06] normal phone, you can get done on your [13:07] folding phone. [13:08] >> See, I was disagreeing when you said it [13:09] was not worth the extra price, but then [13:11] you like clarified with that and I'm [13:12] like, "Okay, I I get it." [13:14] >> Yeah. [13:14] >> I [13:16] loved when I had my Fold 4 when I did IT [13:18] work. It was so amazing for the [13:20] multitasking. I could have my password [13:21] manager on a little window, a Teams on [13:23] another little window in case I I [13:25] communicating with a co-worker or [13:26] something, and then Google on half the [13:28] screen for when I'm trying to Google [13:29] what the problem is. And having that [13:31] multitasking ability, phenomenal. And [13:33] it's something that I genuinely miss [13:35] with my iPhone. So, Apple, please make a [13:37] folding phone. I think that they are [13:39] worth it with the extra price. Again, if [13:40] you're someone who uses it. But, [13:42] >> flip phones [13:43] >> Oh, [13:44] >> No. Flip phones [13:45] >> No. [13:46] >> are just never worth it. They're just [13:47] They're just cool. [13:48] >> They've come down a lot, and they're [13:49] getting closer to the price of like [13:51] flagship phones, but I still think that [13:53] it's not worth it. You should just get a [13:54] flagship phone. [13:55] >> I don't even think flagship phones are [13:56] worth it. [13:57] >> I agree with that, too. [13:58] >> Get like a A-series Samsung or a [14:00] A-series Pixel or E-series iPhone. I [14:04] don't care what you use. I think almost [14:06] everyone does not need a flagship phone. [14:09] >> of people are overpaying for their [14:10] >> Almost everyone. [14:11] >> [clears throat] [14:11] >> I completely agree with you. [14:12] >> the And then to get a folding phone, [14:14] it's literally like double the price. [14:15] You go from like $1,000 to like $2,000. [14:18] Where you're getting twice You're [14:19] getting twice [14:20] >> Yeah, I'm not getting twice the phone. [14:22] I'm getting twice the screen and four [14:24] times as fragile. [14:25] >> Oh my god, that breaks over time. [14:27] >> more likely to overheat cuz it's so [14:29] thin. [14:29] >> Yeah. [14:30] >> But listen, guys. It's really good. [14:32] >> For like one thing that I have to do [14:34] sometimes. [14:35] >> Next question. [14:36] >> In your opinion, what was the best phone [14:38] ever made? I'm probably the worst person [14:40] for this question cuz I don't really [14:41] care about phones. But, I believe it [14:43] would be the Nokia what, the 8210 or [14:46] something like that? The indestructible [14:48] one. [14:48] >> That's crazy. [14:50] >> the best phone ever made. It will never [14:51] die. It is indestructible, and we peaked [14:55] when that was when that was produced. [14:58] >> Hell no. I mean, you [14:59] >> Yeah, of course. I'm well aware that [15:00] this is a bad opinion. I don't care. I I [15:02] don't care about phones, and I think [15:04] that almost every advancement we've made [15:06] has just been icing on a cake at this [15:09] point. [15:09] >> my favorite phone was my Note 4 just [15:11] because it was one of the biggest phones [15:13] I ever had at the time. Still [15:15] >> what's the best phone? [15:16] >> Uh [15:16] >> That's the problem. It's the best It's [15:18] not my favorite. It's what the what's [15:19] the best phone. So, even like my answer [15:21] was more my favorite phone. [15:22] >> I really think that the kind of [15:25] culmination of features with the Galaxy [15:28] S5 was [15:30] >> Okay. [15:30] >> really good. [15:31] >> Yeah. [15:31] >> Because it was the last one you still [15:33] had a user replaceable battery with. It [15:34] had the gasket around the outside, too, [15:36] so it was still waterproof as well, [15:38] which was not common at that point in [15:40] time. [15:40] >> Don't you miss dropping your phone and [15:41] it blowing up? [15:42] >> I mean, [laughter] [15:43] that was a feature. That was [15:44] >> No, it was. Like, it literally was [15:46] better than it like cracking and [15:47] breaking the frame. [15:48] >> And it had Gorilla Glass at that point [15:49] in time. It was really scratch [15:52] resistant. It had really good hardware [15:55] for the time. I think it was a really [15:56] good package. [15:57] >> Yeah. Remember how fragile iPhones were [15:59] when they came out? Yeah. Like, everyone [16:00] loves to laud the iPhone, but like, you [16:02] could drop it from like a centimeter and [16:04] the whole screen is just gone. Like, it [16:05] was so bad. [16:06] >> Greatest uh [16:08] non-smartphone of all time? Sure. The [16:10] second-gen Motorola RAZR. [16:12] >> Oh, peak. [16:13] >> Yeah. [16:14] >> That's a great phone. [16:15] >> That's incredible. It was It was [16:16] beautiful phone. [16:17] >> Oh, so good. Never believe. [16:19] >> Gorgeous [16:20] >> screen. Or if you want to go best [16:22] feature phone, [16:23] you got to go with the Sidekick. [16:26] Uh incredible texting, incredible key [16:27] >> Oh, sure. You flip it side Yeah. [16:29] >> If you want to go best smartphone, uh [16:32] obviously iPhone 4. [16:33] >> I was going to iPhone 4. [16:34] >> iPhone 4 was going to be my backup. [16:35] >> iPhone 5. I think iPhone 5, personally, [16:37] cuz it's just the iPhone 4, but taller. [16:40] >> [laughter] [16:40] >> I think that you got to shout out the LG [16:44] G2, [16:46] which was the one where you could pull [16:48] out the battery. It had replaceable [16:49] modules at the [16:50] >> bottom. [16:50] >> That was sick as hell. Or the HTC One [16:53] M8. All metal, stainless steel [16:55] construction. Uh dual stereo speakers. [16:58] Uh a vibration motor that could give [17:00] someone a heart attack. It was in It was [17:03] louder than It was my alarm. I just put [17:05] it on my nightstand table and the [17:06] vibration was like [17:08] >> Comment down below which your favorite [17:09] phone was that either you had or wish [17:12] you had growing up. All right, next [17:13] question. What is better, IEMs or [17:16] over-the-ear headphones? I would pick [17:18] over-the-ear headphones, I think every [17:19] time. [17:20] >> Yeah. [17:21] >> I also would pick over-the-ear [17:22] headphones every time. [17:22] >> Okay, so no one disagrees. [17:24] >> But I'm going to make a big a big fight [17:25] for IEM's. [17:26] >> IEM's, you can get the same sound [17:28] quality for like [17:30] like not even like like like a like a an [17:32] eighth of the price. You can get like [17:33] $80 IEM's, they're going to last [17:35] forever. They're super lightweight, [17:37] they're super compact, easier for [17:38] travel. They also have a natural form of [17:41] noise isolation cuz they literally plug [17:43] your ears. It's way easier for mobility [17:44] if you're doing stuff like I don't know, [17:46] like recording music. If you're a [17:46] musician and you need to monitor your [17:48] mix or whatever, you're going to put [17:49] IEM's on. They are less garish than [17:53] headphones that are going over your [17:54] ears, they're less bulky. They're [17:56] they're harder to steal. If you have a [17:58] $1,000 pair of IEM's, no one notices. If [18:01] you have AirPods Max, everyone notices. [18:03] That's fair. [18:03] >> Right? [18:04] >> Yeah. I like headphones for anything [18:05] that's not mobile. And then if it is [18:07] mobile, if I got to go to the gym, I'm [18:09] going to go for a walk or something, [18:10] then at that point, sure, I'll use [18:12] AirPods. [18:12] >> your desk, you'll use overhead. [18:14] >> any other instance, even if I'm walking [18:15] around at home, I'd rather then have [18:17] wireless [18:18] um just headphones. [18:19] >> There's a reason why they both exist. [18:21] On-ear headphones, [18:22] you can [ __ ] die. [18:24] >> [laughter] [18:25] >> Is it me? I'm next? [18:26] >> I think you're next. [18:26] >> Okay. What should I invest more money [18:28] in? A keyboard or a mouse? I know my [18:32] answer. I know my answer right away. I'm [18:33] I'm going to go with keyboard. I think [18:35] naturally people are going to spend more [18:37] money on their keyboard [18:39] because that's the part that you're [18:41] going to be interacting with more, at [18:43] least for a typical user. Yeah, if [18:45] you're playing games or whatever, you're [18:47] going to be using your mouse a whole [18:48] bunch, but maybe you're using a [18:49] controller, maybe you're using your [18:51] mouse with your keyboard. Uh but the [18:54] keyboard's almost always involved, and [18:56] [music] I think that's [18:57] that's where I would spend my money. [18:59] >> I think you can get a long way with like [19:01] a $60 mouse, and I think most people are [19:03] 100% okay with a $60 mouse. And you can [19:06] say the same thing about a keyboard. [19:07] However, if I can get a mechanical hot [19:09] swap keyboard, I can fix that, and I can [19:12] repair it, and I can have that keyboard [19:13] for the rest of my life. Whereas, like, [19:14] yeah, you can change the switches on a [19:16] mouse, and but it's annoying. The laser [19:19] gets gunked up after like a long time, [19:21] and you can clean that, too, but uh I [19:24] 100% would spend more on a But, I also [19:26] think that you should spend similar [19:28] amounts on them. [19:29] >> I agree with that. [19:30] >> I don't think you should spend $500 on a [19:31] keyboard. I don't think you should spend [19:32] $500 on a mouse, either. [19:33] >> I think if I was looking at like the [19:36] comparison between a higher-tier [19:37] keyboard and a higher-tier mouse, I [19:39] would personally go with a higher-tier [19:40] mouse. And I think that's because I can [19:42] get by with the free Logitech keyboard [19:45] that you get for gaming and like a [19:47] little bit of casual typing. Whereas, [19:49] those free mice suck. If I'm comparing [19:52] kind of the value level of each. And so, [19:54] I would rather pick up G502, G305 as a [19:57] mouse, and still get by with those cheap [19:59] Logitech keyboards, for example. Saying [20:00] that, when you have a nice keyboard, [20:03] it is nice. And I will never deny it's a [20:05] good typing experience. It's good for [20:07] repairability. [20:08] >> Can be good for repairability. [20:10] >> Can be. Sure. You can buy a $300 [20:12] keyboard that's basically a throwaway. [20:14] >> Yeah, 100%. Some of the things go wrong. [20:15] >> Uh I agree. Keyboard better. [20:18] >> Okay. [laughter] [20:20] >> All right. Sure. Next question. [20:22] >> Keyboard and mouse is always better than [20:24] a controller for PC gaming. [20:25] >> Mm. [20:26] >> Always. [20:27] >> Yeah, that's a big keyword in that. [20:29] >> Like, obviously not. Obviously not [20:30] always. [20:31] >> Yeah. I don't want to play a racing game [20:33] with a [20:33] >> I've been playing a [clears throat] lot [20:34] of Forza Horizon 6, and I I guarantee [20:36] you I'm not using the keyboard. [20:37] >> [laughter] [20:38] >> I think there is definitely some people [20:40] online that will always argue keyboard [20:42] and mouse, cuz I was playing 007 [20:43] recently, and there was quite a few [20:45] people that are like, "Why you playing [20:46] with a controller?" And I was like, "I [20:47] don't know. The combat just feels [20:48] smoother when I play with a controller, [20:50] for me personally. [20:51] But, I also understand, I guess, why [20:53] some people are like, "Oh, no. Aiming is [20:55] so much better, so you got to just use a [20:56] mouse if there's anything that involves [20:58] aiming." I don't know, man. I [21:00] don't think it's always better. [21:02] >> There's also a bunch of aim assist on [21:03] controllers that makes it just feel [21:05] totally fine. 007's actually pretty [21:07] aggressive for you. [21:08] >> the gyro aiming. Like gyro aiming really [21:11] nice for [21:12] >> You know, it's not for me, David, but I [21:13] fully encourage anyone who likes it to [21:15] use the gyro. [21:16] >> It is a middle ground between the analog [21:18] stick and the mouse, and I played the [21:20] entirety of Last of Us Two with gyro [21:22] aiming. Phenomenal experience. [21:24] >> Like snap to where you need to be and [21:25] then like dial it in. It's like it can [21:26] be really good. I got pretty good at it [21:27] with Splatoon. [21:28] >> Oh, dude, it's competitive all [21:30] competitive Splatooners, dude, they're [21:32] >> [laughter] [21:33] >> I think that like obviously the keyboard [21:35] and mouse enable certain types of games [21:37] to exist in a way that they just don't [21:40] exist on controller. [21:42] >> A lot of games don't even have keyboard [21:43] and mouse support. [21:44] >> Yeah. [21:44] >> They straight up tell you at the start [21:45] when you launch the game, "Hey, this [21:46] requires a controller." Or [21:47] >> Like Skate is like a prime example. It's [21:48] like, "Please use a controller." [21:50] >> You you literally need it for like [21:51] >> But that's also like not just a PC game. [21:53] >> True. [21:54] >> Right? Like I think that like for a lot [21:55] of like specific PC games you get like [21:57] stuff like they're certain RTS game. [21:58] >> That's right. It does specify PC gaming. [22:01] >> PC gaming, but that's why always but PC [22:02] games don't just play games that are [22:04] only on PC. [22:04] >> But [22:05] >> I think that there's a lot of cool games [22:06] that don't translate to um controller. [22:08] Like I could not imagine trying to play [22:10] Deadlock. [22:11] >> Oh god. [22:12] >> Most MMOs as well. Like [22:14] >> Oh, yeah, too many. [22:15] >> You can do things with controllers, and [22:16] I know that there are programs that [22:18] people use to be able to remap buttons [22:20] to controllers and play MMOs like World [22:22] of Warcraft. But it's [22:24] >> [laughter] [22:24] >> it's just so much harder, in my opinion. [22:27] >> got three hotkey bars all filled up [22:29] dude, I've seen the UIs that people [22:31] >> have. [22:32] >> The thought of playing like World of [22:32] Warcraft or something on a controller is [22:34] just like breaking my brain. [22:36] >> Some of these questions might have gone [22:37] too long for the YouTube video, so make [22:38] sure you guys head over to [22:39] lmg.gg/floatplane to check out the [22:41] extras. We might have even cut some [22:42] questions from the YouTube version. But [22:44] if you're here on YouTube, you should at [22:46] least stay for a little bit longer to [22:47] listen to this message from our sponsor. 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