[00:21] hello everyone Doug here cars and bids cars and bids we're here today with Kenan kenan's qualifications include working at cars and bids for many years writing all many many of our listings [00:36] working at an exotic car dealership we also are here today with my friend Nick his primary qualification is that he posted on Audi Zen a few times five years ago I was the featured aier of the month in 2008 november-ish I want to say [00:52] will not be doing which car were you think my credentials are is that I've own three second gen Ford Explorers and that three second gen Ford Explorers and what what other cars please introduce [01:05] Nick is one of my close friends and he's insane and you know what he is Ken and I he's one of the people in your life who you who doesn't think he's insane but it well to be clear Nick is also one of my friends we have a very mutual friend [01:19] friends we have a very mutual friend group but Nick is Nick is he just he he this particular broadcast he just like Nick says the funniest stuff he just comes up with very now there's pressure little a little bit I I don't tend to [01:33] realize that things I say come off crazy or insane that's the thing I think the everyone else is insane I'm normal and that's why my comments come off as normal to me in uh in 2022 last year maybe earlier this year Nick purchased a [01:47] Lamborghini mercio and he told his wife about it at some point during the process but not after close as you do after close he was like I think I might buy this car and so now we're here hello Nick we are here [02:02] yeah so I've uh had a bunch of Audi bunch of AUD I raced 24 hours of lemons I like track daytime I'm excited to talk about cars and bids and that's about all [02:14] my qualifications I have a car blog that no one goes to that's all about B7 a4s friends reach he says I didn't realize you know Nick from Nick's car blog I'm like yeah Nick from if you if you've had a B6 B7 Audi you may have been to mysite [02:30] and yeah he you had a B6 or a B7 he has a B8 he had a B8 S4 so I was like so he about when I lost if you under steered around in a B6 Nick had a uh A4 front [02:42] track that's right and I tracked that car heavily with a CVT yeah which was like a ticking Time Bomb terrible idea but you you race what you brought you know yep you do indeed uh there's a lot to discuss today [02:57] don't know how you give questions to us but please do at some point a list appears and uh it's great oh great first oh first question can we just take this can you open up column b a little bit more from Dan AR column B colum he [03:14] doesn't doesn't know letters okay so a and then yeah Dan art no go back go back go back lower it there you go perfect Dan art says hey Doug when are you g to review a fourth gen fbody [03:26] solid I love the fourth gen F body but which is the WS6 the WS6 I want to review a late Ram a WS6 remember that nostril Hood uhhuh it's so legit my buddy had [03:41] one in college and we were known for running around near the library and yelling nerd at people as they were walking in and out of the building and especially in that yeah it was very Joe Dirt of us but needless to say Nick is [03:55] from Ohio just this was in Illinois but it was in Illinois same thing in the midwest that's what you did you drove around on a WS6 and yelled at people um there's not a lot to do especially nearing winter it's good [04:07] especially nearing winter it's good clean fun so the WS6 um I I only I'm they're being sold on the site and so I've been waiting for a nice one it's fourth gen F bodies in SoCal a lot of them are in the Midwest [04:23] and then a lot of those have been modded to a level that I would not film it a review of it or it's Street Drive like legit street cars has a thousand horsepowers on his and like most of the ones that he finds are like that right [04:36] and so like it's I want to find like a clean late 02012 WS6 with the nostril but looked absurd that's what I'm looking for those are the best kind looking for those are the best kind nothing like a good [04:50] being an Audi man he's the only one 's both I had the Seline xp8 that sold on the site a couple months ago that Seline xp8 set a new record for the the model although there's like a hundred of them so just a documented sale was noteworthy [05:05] in in that space But oh that was such a cool car right I bought this it had been that car unregistered in a driveway for several years and uh like H or something right like the desert basically yeah it it you know it it ran although the brake [05:20] some key issues but Frank took these pictures yeah Frank took the pictures jez he just killed it I tried to take my own pictures and I have a DSLR I'm like to pay for a photographer and then these came out and it's like oh my gosh my my [05:36] pictures now look like looked anything other than perfect which it did it without question thec great it was the nicest xp8 in existence I as long as you didn't look closely at the area around the um the rear uh lock for the I [05:51] cleaned that prior to sale actually I took it off and like wet sanded it then black polished yeah I ruined like a few shirts where I still have like embedded black paint in them but number 27 number 27 98 27 cuz they would redo the numbers [06:06] 27 98 27 cuz they would redo the numbers each year so there's a 9927 and an27 wee wonderfully fitting fog light this was Ford quality doesn't it look like it's upside I'm go back to that I think it might I think when Seline changed the so [06:19] actually covers like there's still the steel bumper underne forgot about that fog light where it was and put the cover over it was like H close enough no one doing this in CAD they were just like let's draw it to somebody it was the [06:35] '90s it was the '90s and that interior too so de it sounded really cool it for the video that I did when you sold it I thought it drove quite well like legitimately quite well but this was my childhood dream car and you talked about [06:48] Audi but I was the Super moderator of Ford explorer. net in high school and I me and my high school buddies were obsessed with our cars they all stunk but that was like when um fasten the Furious one came out and I [07:01] was like I'm going to put alteza tail lights and a big exhaust on the the had alas on your Explorer what was which your explorer was this 95 and okay so was a coupe as they said it was red with the silver trim and I was in oh but it [07:15] was a V6 cuz they didn't do a V8 on the twoo V6 yeah you drove I took it to the the track and did a like 17 Mile or 17c quarter mile and wow we did all sorts of quarter mile and wow we did all sorts of fun stuff with it I bet you did yeah [07:29] yeah did subwoofers three of them three 12in jl's it was very period correct miss that car wonder what happened to that car it was I rekers I wrecked it four times through between sophomore and Senior year of high school twice of [07:43] that point they're like oh we'll just keep you've always been a ridiculous person is what you're say I forgot about the shorts situation I thought about home before this but then it didn't happen because it's raining Ken looks [07:55] over my legs thanks kenon um okay should we discuss the cars that are on the or to see or what I'm down to talk about the xp8 more you want to talk about the xp8 more that's that's fine we can move on um we need to talk about the cars [08:08] this this Honda S2000 CR is coming up this is the one I want to talk so I went to San Francisco to do a video on this car and I got to meet the owner who was incredibly nice he bought the car brand new um he said he really wanted one he [08:21] was looking at like several and this one just was exactly what he wanted um and like on back roads and had fun with it but then the key thing was it be started to become worth so much in like just worth so much he just got afraid of [08:34] cars but he was very gracious to me and any S2000 of any kind never experienced one before so I kind of started at the top admittedly as I as I like to this isn't this is a radio and AC delete car [08:48] radio AC delete car which is exactly how he wanted it um and that wasn't the easiest thing to find um you know when it came out people were still ordering radio and AC because they just didn't get it this is so cool I didn't realize [09:01] it was a radio AC Delite car yeah so the car says that it was sold new okay he bought it from San Francisco Honda wow yeah um he did he was a school teacher and bought this imagine imagine being at school go to the Carfax pull up the [09:13] Carfax this is hilarious scroll down so San Francisco Honda scroll down to the November of 07 nothing happens in March of 09 Hansel Honda in Petaluma SS it the car sat for 18 months not a surprise probably [09:28] because it had no air condition yeah a hard top so it's like instead of let's at least it was in the right region of the country one the only region of the country one the only places cancel Honda probably when this [09:40] delete when they were probably like oh my God someone's going to buy this thing I wonder how much off sticker they ended up sell I wonder how much off sticker I a pretty substantial discount that car [09:54] a half at the at the dealers and the original dealer couldn't even sell it yeah pretty amazing but I mean you know he it's just like they have just who would have known it that stage but 80 grand but this is a CR one-owner low [10:11] M and AC radio delete for those who are so the CR was this lightweight thing yeah so it was the the club racer was designed they it was designed to be the lightweight track focused version the [10:23] really all that L you didn't lose that much that's right it was designed to be ordered with no AC and uh without the radio um but they did some a lot of was the thing at the time it they did a lot of upgrades like that and obviously [10:37] time with the Fast and Furious thing was a was a big deal but they critically didn't add more power to it had the exact same horsepower as a normal AP do you remember when this car came out I do I do yeah and it was like it was your [10:50] typical all the car magazines loved it and louded it and then you never saw them like not a commercial success so many so many that I so many articles I like why would you even they said what but why would you buy this when I [11:02] about it in the forums people were like this is Honda just trying to sell like that point cuz it came out in 2000 yeah and it was like oh Honda's trying to sell this thing by putting this heinous wing on it and all that but as I say the [11:16] this we didn't get any limited edition versions of the car was otherwise a mass-produced sports car this is the only one and it's the rare one that's otherwise aside from of course the AP1 ap2 change but there was like limited [11:30] edition special edition this was the S2000 and they built 699 of these um pretty low pretty low and it has basically no miles one owner radio and it was you know more expensive than the normal one but they sat around for a [11:46] cool so people did pick them up tracked them modded them more so finding like a can't believe this has radio by the way the bids are flying in on this it's at 8888 when we started talking about this 2 minutes ago was at 80 now it's at [12:01] 88888 I mean they just don't just one owner example this is a very special was controversial when it came out it has tons of upside down the road people are still complaining about stado on forums and on Facebook people like stado [12:15] buy an off-road Lamborghini it's like damn that's the car to buy that's the we're up to $9,000 this is a Honda S2000 what was the original sticker kenon did he say again after getting um after it sat for [12:30] 14 months at Honda Petaluma Handel Honda I can't remember he I think he told me he got like six grand off sticker or something to that grand off sticker or something to that effect so the CR back in the day was [12:45] 37,000 it was only two grand more than an S2000 two grand it was not that's all the other things but you also had this hard top the problem was it it regular one had a roof and this car [12:58] wasn't it right yeah that's exactly got cool little speed for California it's kind of live especially like the the Bay Area like this this particular spec is great for that cuz you don't really need AC up there that go back to the go back [13:12] for this too yeah although the blue looked really cool too wasn't there also a black or there was there were L black was also offered on it as well the blue and the blue and this though this um rear to 92 G's yeah 92 Grand this dude [13:27] bought this thing in the recession yeah after it sat on the lot for 14 months and didn't have air conditioner killing it can you imagine what his friends were well so especially as a teacher where it's like okay like that's you're [13:40] betting a good portion there on this car's wife he told are both big Honda fans so she like fully understood how special it was and was like yep go for it so they were so smart those the only people who were buying these [13:53] $94,000 man man you know but this is this is the one like this is it is the one and and you can find other really low mileage CRS that haven't been modded basically impossible they never come up I can't remember the exact production [14:07] number he told me but they are I didn't realize quite how rare imagine the flags too oh yeah well you look you pull up at a at a at a s200 meet you're like oh your CR has a radio people look at that like rear three quarter it's like wow [14:19] there no nub I have to imagine the radio it came with by today standards is so obsolete that who cares yeah did you Ken it wait so it didn't have an antenna or something like it had a little way spot it from the outside of the car [14:32] the rear 3/4 panel uh which let me bring up a good angle of it um so you can kind of see it from here so like there would be a nub like right here there'd be a little radio and if you don't have it on a delete oh man that little Flex massive [14:50] thing right there nothing ain't nothing there so that's that's how you that's how you spot one at a at a distance who knew yeah that's so funny I learned that to pre-wire so there's not even like an antenna thing I remember Jeeps when XJ [15:05] they left a hole in the fender straight up a hole wow I'm dead Ser like the male truck versions had a literal hole in the even like a plug no they didn't plug it it's on you you got to do that you do that if [15:19] would put it in their own eventually put in their own radios $96,000 like no one's commenting here it's just all bid bid bid this is crazy I bid history pulled up specifically um but oh you have the go to the comments [15:35] we not allowed to do that cuz people yeah it's it's it's someone says is this the most expensive S2000 ever sold I'm curious about that on our site we sold highest we've sold this is obviously going to be higher than that 96,000 and [15:49] checking checking wow boom $96,000 congratulations to the new and congratulations to the so that guy 3x his money in 15 years and got to do 15,000 mil in an S2000 radio [16:04] just took it out to drive it drove it like on really great driving roads and you know what's funny if you had bought an 09 S2000 without the CR which was two grand extra apparently yeah that would be a [16:18] valuable car too but it's probably half the money yeah uh yeah Pro probably uh yellow one is probably the best EX it had a body kit and stuff but it got it got 47 that was a strong number a strong number but there's an 07 that sold for [16:31] number but there's an 07 that sold for 32 I mean 33 yeah but even but yeah I mean the CR is obviously still the stand up but yeah and the carrying cost of this I mean the maintenance wouldn't be bad at all most $96,000 cars you need to [16:43] factor in like 10% of that a year for just upkeep I mean he only drove it 15,000 miles so how much cost him right taking it to the Honda dealer taking it back to Hansel Honda be like hey you remember this thing now it's worth [17:00] can we talk about some Upcoming auctions that we think are interesting yeah ABS many nick uh give us an upcoming auction that you think is cool um there's a few I would say the B5 RS4 is one I'm excited about I was the under bidder on [17:15] a Sprint blue one you had maybe a year ago I still regret not going higher even this is a very cool car can you guys pull Cosworth engine Factory widebody [17:27] fast wagon never sold here so they it's pretty hard to find them imported and federalized and legal which this is so this is a B5 RS4 a vant that has been federalized yeah and it is it it definitely I like it better with those [17:39] silver headlights but it's bone stock otherwise yeah the Fishbowl is like so cool like I love no tin on this no ttin deep Europe one owner in like 33,000 miles I want to say like this is a great examp 33,000 miles yeah wow so this is [17:53] obviously is way too early to judge it but um it it has a lot of room to come up here so a year and a half ago I drove one of these we actually have sold one that you were the under bidder on [18:06] that was the second blue one we sold and I drove the first blue one yep like a I drove the first blue one yep like a year and a half ago and um I sold my rs2 like immediately after this car is so much better I mean twin turbo V6 it's [18:20] thought it was yeah probably right around there and 375 it felt like more than that but I'll tell you can bolt on hundreds of horsepower to if you want to relability right cuz reliability is a is a car will [18:36] never run again but you could push 600 horsepower pretty pretty good for a day or two yeah no totally can you guys pull this back up um so cool yeah this is a also got like the the ricaro on the inside like it's a reasonably decent K [18:51] thing about this car was it came in a period where for some unknown reason Volkswagen and Audi owned Cosworth and they had them build this one um [19:03] engine and car and that was it and then they divested and so that was it that was the only one so this ends tomorrow you be are you going to be bidding on this I will probably throw some bids in uh there's a few that I'm like ah I [19:16] really shouldn't and I told myself I won't and I'll have to tell my wife after it closes if anything happens again but uh yeah no this it's certainly where it's at now it is uh it's definitely one that needs some bids [19:30] beauti pull up the pull up our prior B5 RS for sales they don't change hands right so we've only sold we've sold three other ones plus this one kind of has zoomed in dramatically yeah like it good call I [19:45] there's there's it's harder to find service but most of it is you know B5 Parts Plus for us a Euros is down the street andn is down the street and by away but if you got into trouble there's enough AUD tuners throughout and most [20:01] this car that they're going to be like all right we'll figure it out it is the coolest car and yeah the ones that are coming in now have to all be federalized of a process to go through fortunately it's fairly easy with this car because [20:13] they sold like the base car in the US um but people have been federalizing these this one the Blackwood ends tomorrow win Cars and Coffee for sure bringing this anywhere but you kind it's kind of an if you know you know sort of car sort of [20:27] but t type of people that go to Cars and Coffee should know at Audi Z they a big deal yeah yeah that's true in my world it's a big deal um okay Kenan can you absolutely oo [20:43] okay let's see a lot of questions come in how what is the car of choice from your own birth [20:57] year I'm wearing it that's an easy one Kenan was born in apparently 955 Ferrari F50 Ferrari F50 Kenan was born on my seventh birthday he's very lucky we have the same birthday uh Ferrari F50 is yours uh I can say F40 or puffy yeah but [21:13] I what you're going to say F40 the 959 or as Kenan and I refer to it the puffy 911 I could I could choose that but no I'm gonna say F40 because I don't need puff puffy that's the correct car to say puffy is cool but it's not as cool as an [21:25] F40 Nick what year were you born 84 oh okay well I could claim I could claim like a count I'm going to go Audi Sport Quattro just cuz it's super cool we're really do the AY thing today yeah we'll own it I'm an Audi guy at heart you know [21:40] the sport quattra was the short one yep short wide one that you made very few of and are unobtanium but so so cool what kind of money do they sell for cool what kind of money do they sell for I don't know but they're like 250 right [21:54] or 300 it's not like they're 60 Grand they're so few that they're like real real real money I don't see any recent results uh Eric wartenberg writes in I want to replace my 2015 Honda CRV touring with a V10 M5 and he asks am I [22:09] insane the answer is yes all right next question touch that yes see if you if that M5 and you're not prepared to deal with the maintenance that comes along with then yes if you expect it to be as reliable as your Honda you are in for a [22:24] this already there look the thing with the 60 M5 is all the problems are very well documented with the car so you just have to be prepared to spend it's going unfortunately no matter what you spend you can never get rid of [22:38] iDrive well that's true the cic was a little better later on um but nonetheless like yeah it but it is an amazing car it's just you just be ready I will say you're not insane if you work from home this is your Ford [22:52] vehicle or you own a BMW shop perfectly rational it's on his fourth vehicle he's got a 20 2015 Honda CRV maybe his kids flew the coupe and and you think his flew the coupe and and you think his fourth car is a CRV reent car I need [23:05] this is insane okay um Kenan has a friend and named Nate right and he works for the government in the Orange County uh and he has two BMW m5s one of which bought on the site by the way which he bought on cars and bids and you know [23:20] what he told me this weekend we saw him and he told me aside from the rod bearings the van the SMG it was a manual well regardless [23:32] manual the whatever else you probably know more there's more the throttle body throttle actuators aside from those nine things which cost 20 grand to fix it's the most reliable M engine ever that is a direct quote from our friend [23:46] Nate and yeah n i I love Nate but Nate you have to realize that we are kind well vered car guy it's an interesting point though cuz he he claims that if you do solve those things it is actually unlike your s62 which breaks all the [24:01] time not true at all he also has an E39 M5 and he he rebuilt the engine on his what happened to your we went to the track what happened to your car Kenan well I had a vibration on the braking it ended up just being rotors but that was [24:15] previous time you replaced your rotors Ken 8,000 Miles prior to that 8,000 now break often I break he doesn't he doesn't stop a lot that car will stop me [24:27] doesn't stop a lot that car will stop me at but no I I I do um I don't break hard like they had gotten hot at some point so we actually explored to see if the calipers had issues which I had rebuilt at the same time I did the brakes uh [24:39] last August um but it's just pads and rotors the wheel the front wheels are bent which is going to be a problem for me because it's it's a whole thing I be a very obnoxious thing to deal with you can get all right fine I'm going so [24:52] you can get front wheels for this car can't get rear ones so I can't order a set of four the result is that I'm going to have to have like the front two refinish to match the rear ones what the hell are you talking about just be bent [25:04] back in the shape evidently not but we'll see about what do you mean you have to get the front wheels to match the rear just leave the rear wheels on color wise Oh you mean the color you're talking about the color I thought you [25:16] talking the way it drives black chrome gunmetal CH sh you can't just pop onto eBay and get a set of a couple fronts same problem they won't match your car has a a differently colored color like it's really hard to get it [25:31] right your car's the color on the wheels on your particular M5 they've been finished it's a hard color to get right so but what do you mean I don't understand if the if the the the factory color so get another Factory wheel I [25:43] can't get I'm going to pop on eBay right now I'll find you 10 E39 M5 fronts he's the same let's go back let's go back to that E60 question the guy that said oh it's a reliable engine other than XY Y and Z [25:58] reliable engine other than XY Y and Z once I uh caught my apartment on fire and it got re serve pro came and 3 months later they had restored it but we had to move out it was like a legit fire the fire department all of that and I [26:12] back and I said other than catching the place on fire I was an ideal tenant that equally of an absurd statement yes if engine's great did you get the security deposit back I think we've met in the [26:26] middle theid between zero and the well hey I mean maybe that guy was a saint for putting up with me like I'm looking back and like Nick was smoking in bed and it was a candle Breaking Bad We were uh was he was making M if if you PSA if [26:42] you have pillows the The Mattress is nonflammable but the pillows are very flammable so if your pillow Falls forward into a candle it doesn't take bring up Breaking Bad what did that have to do it was just a great show [26:59] I mean if you're going to like burn your house down like at least it was I once got fired from a job for were were you watching we were watching it we went to watching we were watching it we went to make nachos pillow fell in there [27:13] and ladies and gentlemen this is the ni we oh my God okay now now everybody can understand I'm going to give let do let me let me finish the re so the color on Shadow crumb the factory now and the only sell front wheels don't so rears [27:28] the fronts that all have been done have been finished lighter than my color my set of wheels I have a preface set of wheels which are slightly darker go on eBay and buy the wheels from an M5 that was rolled over and the wheels survived [27:41] you just if you're going to do it you do new and the reality whe qu running into stuff it's a very it's a very particular thing but I'm very particular about that a real headache and that's why I don't want to deal with it right now um fine I [27:57] it go Kevin and I will find you a guy that can straighten them out you're not you did you see you didn't notice never mind but I would just paint them all well that's exactly right so now I'm going to have to send but the best shop [28:09] to do that is in North Carolina take the wheel off the card the kind of thing lives if if there is some way to make things take longer and be more process I take them to the best I didn't the car gets no like I'm lucky the E39 source is [28:24] can we please go to the another question here yes please go I want wait wait wait go back up I found one that I want to see that's perfect for Nick oh uh Jason Hannon writes hey Doug which is going to turn into hey Nick what is the best [28:37] Enthusiast carsuv that you can get for 15 grand that seats a family of four Nick is driving it currently tell us theen yeah yeah I guess if you got like an s or a dies Diesel have gone up a little bit but yeah either the 955s [28:54] and 95 SS or if you go higher mileage to 958 Cay you'll be you're going to be astonished by what your car has dropped to in value cap the cap the price at turbo oh my gosh bid to the teens but look at some of these that turbo was [29:08] but look at some of these that turbo was bid to 16 and change just I I have a GTS keep scrolling keeps going there's some I have a GTS he's over here bragging look at that 06 Turbo S for 17 grand that Tech art widebody sold for seven [29:21] Nick where were you on that keep scrolling that turbo that 12 turbo sold scrolling that turbo that 12 turbo sold for 17750 y man look look at that mine nothing but oil changes and fluid changes yeah that's the other thing they [29:35] generation do that have the transfer case thing or is that it does but uh it was recalled with a service bulletin and honestly the the big screw up there was they said it was a lifetime fluid if you just change the fluid every 50,000 miles [29:50] or so you're fine this car can you guys pull it back up this car here 2012 Cayenne Turbo sold for 177 it's got 120,000 MI on it that's a 500 horsepower oil changes are going to be like 500 bucks you're more expensive than a [30:04] this point which is tinted tails and and gold the GTS tint on it just not better tint than that better tint than that so it be I mean you can put I put car on M [30:16] for like 500 bucks you can mod the the radio so like you can make it a really good my wife thinks that this $20,000 car is too flashy and I'm like that tell three to four times as much and is depreciating right no I mean that's [30:31] that's exactly right Cayenne the 9500 for that panir is 2 I was just talking about this with Farah on his podcast yeah paname are such a value right now look at that 09 click on that 09 in the bottom left that is that now this is a [30:44] V6 and it was a trash V6 it was the V6 from the um like Pat V6 dramatically this car sold for wasn't it sold for seven yeah yeah [30:57] a lot for the earlier ones have better off-road capabilities and you can go to eurowise or many of these companies do like a lift for like 500 bucks yep and like make this legit cool for like under 10 to 15 right they're so this is the [31:11] car to get and they are surprisingly reliable they do have the the 955s and 57s as people call them do have some issues um but the the car in this price range is going to have issues at this point yeah except for $7,100 frankly if [31:26] it breaks get another one right this guy had a $115,000 budget boom buy two I remember looking at these pre pandemic and thinking what's wrong with this car that cheap it's just depreciated it's just cars depreciate Porsches don't but [31:41] the cayenne and the paname seem to have followed the value curve of luxury SUVs and luxury sedans instead of Porsches and like look at that 2020 it doesn't even look that different than than my generation really no absolutely not the [31:53] one that came out in uh I think it was 11 yeah basically looks the same as the doesn't pass the my wife test would my wife be able to tell him a part absolutely not an 11 and a 20 she would not be able to teleport ironically when [32:07] we first got the 958 we drove up to montere and my wife went to get in the car and walked up to a black CRV didn't know them apart so it it I think that makes it not flashy but either way that V10 gentleman with the M5 ought to look [32:22] at these you should look at that instead let's just let's recommend used cion to everybody and actually if we're going to look at v10s there is an S6 coming up for sale the Audi S6 with the V10 that's what you should buy over the M5 because [32:34] it's going to be more reliable okay this it changed the wheels maybe if that's not your flavor but like this is this is okay so this for a gardo engine this is ridiculous it's not going to sell for five but your point is well taken [32:49] least double but wouldn't you rather have the the uh E60 the problem would but if I actually had to maintain and like rely on this car to get anywhere this car is going to be here's the trick about these V10 s6s [33:03] they are not as unreliable as people think now I don't want people to buy go back kenon go back to the search string for for just type in S6 so if you scroll down to some of these V10 ones that we've run I guess [33:18] you have to kind of cap the years it's like 08 to but go to that 07 there was 07 down there that black one and scroll down to the mileage like some of 150,000 s Grand some of these come in to us with 150 180,000 mil which suggests to me [33:31] that like it's possible people are doing it people are doing it I'm just curious what the documentation section on this car looks like ter of service had a Florida certificate of destruction oh got yeah there's a binder look at that [33:45] service as you have to it's like buying a P38 where it's like oh yeah we've spent 300 Grand keeping this $3,000 car on the road I got to sell my Land Cruiser here coming up and and um I realized I'm going to have to explain [33:58] Replacements the last 12 months you also you and I have spent the same amount of Land Cruiser and myam 5 this year something for you to think about the you had to have spent way more than that i' I did one big service it was a big [34:13] one oh cuz you're you're charging me for the $113,000 giant service which was done this year I did that preemptively uhhuh as did I I didn't technically need to do my timing change guy but I did them done I need to get out of that car [34:25] um okay what is selling right now is anything selling oh we wait actually go back Ken and go to just sold cuz we just sold that Bentley Azure type in yeah we this was a car we actually were discussing 2007 Bentley azour what is [34:38] the color combination what a backdrop too I know Beluga over saddle let me car where the colors can be described as Beluga over saddle you are legit deep [34:51] Montana plates boom man look how stately this thing is that car was 350 Grand back when it was new I feel like every time this car is new I feel like every time this car is valeted the dude tipped like $1 tops yep [35:05] especially the Montana plate one that sold for 55 oh beautiful is so beautiful to this day even though this car sells for less than that Lexus TX to this day you drive this thing around and you own the world yeah oh where's the view from [35:19] the steering wheel is what I really want gorgeous you saw one of these coming around your town and that guy was going to fire your dad [35:35] it's just so beautiful yeah and leather made everything I've never driven an Azure but I have driven um the arage te in particular uh and I just love the way those cars drive they're just so good and but this car I mean with the way it [35:48] looks like that's that's a true Bentley that's is a Bentley I love the Flying Spur and the Cel GT I like truly love them really and I'm not just saying it cuz we sell some but this but this this is a Bentley this [36:00] but this but this this is a Bentley this is a yes a stately Bentley Nick how come soft spot for like Jags and rolls-royces and stuff yeah the AR T I think is really interesting because they're just the price point is still very appealing [36:13] maintenance you're like okay all in this isn't terrible right this is still a good value I think but I this gra like a 330 sticker I think that's right it was around there I don't know if this one has what's crazy this 6.75 l [36:27] bigger than a Mero even the lp40 it's got more displacement I mean that's oh it was just this massive engine that Cru you should see kenon go to the on one of these no you're going to be blown away look at [36:41] that it's like a diesel people don't realize that that's the case that's not something there conversion met I got in one when I was working at Ferrari dealer we also sold Bentley I got it in her no and I saw that I was like what the hell [36:54] wow where even is the red line 4600 RPM and the tech only goes to five it doesn't even go beyond five the engine was just like made for comfort and like low stress and toward easy cruising 55 is still it's not like it's 10 but it's [37:09] still it's such a cool car Ken what was our cheapest Arnage sale me take a look real quick I feel like we've sold our green label or something 19 20 for that red lab 20 for a red label that t sold for 19 must had a ton of [37:23] for 19 must had a ton of Miles uh yeah if the arach guy was there to fire your dad then the Arnage owner was there to sell him was there to sell him drugs am I allow to say that yeah you're [37:35] you are you're 81,000 miles that car had yeah 19 Grand oh that is such a cool car and i' I've been told they aren't as unreliable as you might expect this dude got 81,000 miles out of it it probably leaks a lot but just throw a couple cans [37:49] that's the Nick way of maintaining an automobile if I'm concerned about my it you got to send your wheels to North Carolina to get them painted mix like put some oil on the trunk and that's that's why we're [38:03] friends generally a good idea all right what's coming up for sale here so what we have right right now we're closing we have an E36 wagon uh we've done very well with E3 that's a diesel uh yeah and this one's a a manual diesel wagon [38:16] that's like a deep car Enthusiast car yeah um but but cool nonetheless go to the other wagon the better wagon yes the other wagon that I'd like to Canadian [38:28] special why is this Canadian it's in Canada no way really yeah which I had an R8 that was originally Canadian car right people tend to devalue it but it's not that hard to import these it depends on the car I don't know what the story [38:41] Duty which is 3% yeah and so on this car that's like real money true yeah that's not insignificant but man RS6 is just so cool can't believe they brought it well not only did they bring it but it's like a huge success and BMW has been shamed [38:56] into bringing an M5 touring as a result and the AMG wagons out sells a sedan now or at least half and half yeah this is we live in Wagon World now it's interesting how things have shifted yeah I got my lifted E450 allterrain great [39:10] car very comfortable oh very comfortable you made the the theory the other week that no one wanted minivans of Our Generation because that's what their parents drove now all the older Millennials drive SUVs right well genz [39:23] think oh wagons are cool because SUVs are dorky might be some validity to that I think that problem is specifically happening to Lexus right now that um nobody wants to drive what their parents drove and [39:36] like everyone had that RX everyone had that RX in 99 yep or their dad had an e or whatever yeah and like now Lexus IS looked at as my parents brand and so people are like yep Audi's like lucky really yeah [39:51] yeah Co for a while and then they were my parents car and you're like man yeah like a real thing Kenan would go around Ohio the 50s version of Kenan which is the same as the current version of kenon go around pick up his data in a poodle [40:03] skirt and have a nice time that sounds about right y hell yeah time that sounds about right y hell yeah RS6 this car has 590 horsepower is that true and you can easily modify them for more and unlike the B5 we showed they [40:17] won't ruin the car it'll just be like a tune and an exhaust why do you need to modify everything C 590 horsepower where are you going having having driven one of these for about 30 seconds and becoming an expert on it I can tell you [40:29] it needs a tune it it is just a little soft a little squishy did you drive the blue one that I had yeah yeah yeah I think if AUD of America is watching he did not he did not drive that car that was only driven by me and my [40:41] spouse but you drove that and it was you thought it was a little slow I probably needed a little more oomph like you the Sprint boosters people put in like it just I have that problem generally [40:54] with Audi that I think that the typ SP is not like strong enough I like want more like initial when I put the throttle down I want to get slapped in the face by the car and for an A6 that's fine for the RS6 you want to like you [41:06] the base model was and you're like you feel it in the dayto day I do love this a friend who's thinking of bidding on this Chuck I don't know if you're watching but go for it man is he in Canada no so he'd have to figure that [41:20] out he'd have to figure it out figure it out the Canadians are nice people I have where're in Canada where're in Canada is it must be in Ontario I believe it is Ontario yeah yeah oh it's just over the river from Detroit River Lake no one [41:33] probably sailed it at one point we used to go gambling in Windsor growing up in could just ni and I lived in different parts of Ohio is our experiences are completely different what kind of did you ever win in gambling you did you [41:47] ever win in gambling uh not Define winning well I mean how much money losing yeah you know usually I got into like making money there's all these think you can do it you just lose more money if you think putting more too much [42:02] I think are written by casinos but no I've never been successful worth the to make them think too much but it makes Smart people think like oh I can win I'm then you're just likees conspiracy they bankroll that [42:16] movie the strategy will work if you just keep betting over a long enough period And so like you can and then it never does damage yeah um can you go back to what else we got oh wow there's a lot of questions [42:30] got oh wow there's a lot of questions okay you feel like the Cadillac ELR will be a future collectible Nick go ahead there's [42:43] one at Rancho Santa Fe Cars and Coffee on a regular basis and amongst the like four of us we get really excited already a collectible so cool gu used to park in the same spot every single time not only do I not think that ELR will be a future [42:57] overpriced today and they only sell for like 13 I think it'll be like the 10 people that really care about them and then everyone else is like H what's that right right right that oh fans yeah [43:12] most recently in October actually it was bid to 145 we got 28 for that one in in June of 22 53,000 folks if you needed proof that the car market was in a bubble click on that if you needed Pro oh [43:27] Pro oh upof a black wrapped ELR sold for 28 scroll through a couple of these new in New Hampshire New Hampshire someone imagine someone bought an ELR and lives in New Hampshire although if you did [43:40] seeing this come up it'd be like oh thank God I've been waiting that's true man man quite a by the way that's further proof that you should sell your car with no Reserve that ELR well that yeah that in my 355 go to go back to [43:53] yeah that in my 355 go to go back to that ELR I mean dude got 28 no Reserve other ones bring like the other ones were substantially lower 18 20 but then again time had moved on I mean time the first one was the range one of these [44:07] things now uh it was it was they were plugged in hybrids so they had a gas motor too but the range was couldn't low be much yeah it was really low yeah that be much yeah it was really low yeah that RS6 RS6 sold for 865 it's a bar it is a [44:21] bar that is the Canada uh whatever it's called Canada cars always sell for a called Canada cars always sell for a Megan marle Canadian [44:34] looking wait Megan is Canadian is that true I believe so so she's Canadian and monoco interesting um kenan's Just Gonna Leave [44:46] know these people below my line I don't want to talk about these people I don't hey did you see this BMW this coming up next uh this E38 yeah yeah so 7 this is a stick 730i stick cuz in Europe you could get a [45:00] manual transmission in the E38 W from Spain from Madrid based on that plate this is a stick 730 and back then the 730 unbelievably was a V8 that was back when you could get away with making a 3 l V8 W this was just coming off that the [45:14] E34 is one of the great unfathomable cuz there a 525 at a 6er 530 was a V8 535 was a six owner 540 was V M5 six owner that's so true it made no sense at all really made no sense but this comes off [45:27] of that ear but how cool E38 I still contend as one of the best looking BMWs of all time that front end like that design is just imposing and like it is an absolutely absolutely beautiful car the headlights and the grills are the [45:39] same height as it should be the headlights and the grills interesting come on here and complain about the buck BMW Grill not a fan but I won't complain about we've cover territory that's another piece of Nick trivia like his [45:52] another piece of Nick trivia like his car knowledge ends around 2010 yes since then he doesn't like or know much about any other cars now I'm not one to talk of course neither do I but it's a it's an interesting point but it's kind of [46:04] perfect for cars and bits now we sold one of these we sold a Europe uh import one of these uh like a couple of years ago with cloth seats wow if you go all the way down you have to type in you've sold a lot of these we sold a lot of E38 [46:19] lot of Canon clicking is I love these Pages cuz you just see so upper right cool photos of them like unlike going to like the same four photos over and over again click on that show us that is [46:32] almost like it's got a blue like hint to it looks like depressing 1994 Copenhagen you're in Amsterdam you run an industrial shipping company you make always cold yeah that's that's exactly what [46:46] cold yeah that's that's exactly what this reminds me of but oh it's last that interior the cool thing was this car had cloth interior look at that ether imagine seven is that manual climate control Canon it looks like it doesn't [47:00] getting a seven series and it's like cloth seats a manual transmission and manual clim manile I or meanwhile I believe in the United States I think navigation was standard on the E38 I don't think from day one do you think in [47:13] don't I don't think it was maybe from day one but man this is like a look manual seats wow go back manual wow look at all those levers what the hell I love it how do you justify getting a did this come from originally it feels like Spain [47:29] was it Spain report yeah Spain Spain yeah Spain as well the Spanish yeah from yeah Spain as well the Spanish yeah from kadis wow well there you go legit but a very cool card and this one now is your chance if you missed out on that one to [47:42] buy yeah to buy yet another this one also has manual seats but Le oh yeah leather uh Kenan can you return to the questions please as we wait for this one to pick down Andrew Cooper this is a great one Andrew Cooper writes what is [47:54] great one Andrew Cooper writes what is the most overrated Porsche 9911 or does he mean just like Porsches in general in general let's give it one it's a tough one oh but I can give you an answer kenon well you'll have we'll [48:09] and you're just gonna say you're gonna say the air cold you say air cold in say like 60s Air Cold yeah I think that's true the I have an expression and it it's a lot of money to go slow a lot of money to go slow Nick give us the as [48:23] a Porsche owner please give us the answer I don't know what do you mean you don't know I'm I'm terrified that all car groups become Porsche groups and I'm the sand as I can about all things Porsche Nick I know give us I think they [48:37] make sports cars too give us an answer to the question you know about porsa you try to pretend like you don't so that you don't become a Porsche as well but I don't I couldn't even narrow it down to a generation I the 96 [48:51] fours I've driven and like for how expensive they are relative to the amount of power I found it slightly underwhelming but I'm not willing to put my neck out there and have all these por people attack right 36 was like legit [49:05] from the 964 I actually I think maybe even i' go slightly further back than the early 911 say 356 like that that is a lot of money to go 356 is maybe the most overrated very slow lot and every time I go to a car event someone comes [49:19] check out my 356a it's one of the it's one of only 47 with a sun and I'm like I I can't please please save me that's I I appreciate the 356 and it's very important car historically [49:33] but like I just I think they're very overrated and I just slow lot of money go you see a lot of them I know most are probably replicas but it also takes away from that like oh my gosh I can't believe we saw an ELR today kind of [49:45] frankly an ELR is a lot faster um we keep getting this question from this same person over and over again so let's just hit it up thoughts on dodge charger to go down down they're going to keep keep going down am I wrong no no [49:59] you are 100% off I think that some might stay okay you know I always thought the cts-vs would go down and they never really did but only the really desirable ones didn't the wagons the sticks I think stick hellcast and especially the [50:11] special edition ones yeah um last call type cars that that sort of thing wide bodies red eyes those might do okay but like there's a lot of special editions [50:23] which like feels like a very portion move but the only thing going in its them are getting wrecked and destroyed so many of them are get that you're going to even though they made a lot of them they won't be many that survive 10 [50:35] hellcats for these days kenon got to pull it up all right oh plural all right hellcats can you go to kenon screen Hellcat I mean there's a 16 sold for 46 there's an 18 bid to 40 but it didn't [50:49] sell there's a 15 sold for 47 with 13,000 mil and a stick so hellcats are in into the 40s yeah that car is 700 hug spread that's a scary it a big spread [51:01] or some of these have had bad titles but look at that 40 I mean that's a buy a lot I love that they've decided to just put the motor and everything yeah a Durango a pickup who cares it's going in it's Chrysler this is the man [51:16] people looked back on the' 60s we're going to be like yeah there were there didn't make sense to us at the time either it was dragged their feed for 10 years I'm producing an off-road version [51:28] of a pickup right and DOD is like Hellcat everything Hellcat everything that car at 47 grand how many miles are on this thing 13,000 miles like a no accident so this is what hellcats go is it in the US yeah it's Illinois plates [51:41] this is what hellcats go for now in the 40s for 700 so imagine this car that's been hit with an auto and 50,000 miles is that is that a 40 car pull up that interior and you kind of see why 40 car it's cheap speed cheap speed I don't [51:57] care about the interior when I'm when I'm doing an 11 7 700 horsepower I'm here like oh I got my Cayenne Nick's talking about the interior you had an talking about the interior you had an xp8 like that's true it is so bad that [52:11] car also didn't retain its value very well to be fair but and everyone forgot that UK connect I remember when UK connect came out it was so good and then now it's like oh my God and they still use it of course dumb question but is [52:23] this the same platform as the 300M it's no no no the platforms was redesigned in 15 the platform was redesigned in 15 it's been out forever in 15 it or 12 it redesigned and it got rid of like basically a lot of the old platform [52:39] stuff but I mean it looks the same it looks the same yeah yeah I think that's why it's hard to pay six figures for a car that it's like I've seen this and that's why the answer to this question I go rent a car and I see 30 of them you [52:52] continuously going down for a while wow I'm excited for the C the 996 there about to end yeah this 996 is a no Reserve car with 160,000 miles those were like you know going for huge money like 6 12 months ago definitely cooled [53:07] off the 996 Market has cooled this particular one some accidents I believe accidents minor ones though if I recall Min minor damage right front of this car so not this is actually a great driver car if you just want to get into a 911 [53:21] instead of a boxer turbo twist widebody car cuz the 4S the cool rear with the fins in it yep and it's a uh it's a stick it's man but it has 188,000 doing it yeah but like these are reliable cars actually if you didn't [53:35] have the IMs situation I'm sure by now it's been IMS IMS but yeah did it say it was one owner uh damn click on the Carfax what is the story with this some dude drove this like 180,000 miles what was the deal bought it in M Valley oh [53:50] so like going back and forth between the desert and keep going maybe that's how they racked up the lot of service history lot of service history keep going and dealer maintained too yep all [54:03] great dealer wow wow yeah just like doing it I they were driving from like mil Valley to the Bay all the time the dealer has to be like wow this guy still has it he still has it are he still coming here oh [54:17] he started going to AEL Tire in Nevada and somebody was like I can't keep doing this and then it ended up at this dealer wow one owner and the dude just drove and drove and drove it that is really cool this is a no Reserve car by the way [54:29] I've been curious cuz we've been talking about 996 values recently and they've kind of have been you know coming down coming down um C4s has really shot up all of a sudden because you had the the Y body like in during the pandemic yeah [54:43] um but now you can see they they're kind of settling um but nonetheless I that's a cool car yeah that is a cool car and it's a cool it's a cool way to get into a 911 like a deep driver car 180,000 miles send it keep going think it's like [54:57] a badge of honor as an Enthusiast to have a car with over 100,000 miles I totally agree I've had three now and I I view myself as like a better human being for this like I look down upon people that haven't had a six figure odometer [55:10] reading hit 100,000 like last week and he's over here waxing poetic about I'm at 230 I had an RS4 with 160,000 and the xp8 had about 160,000 it is a risk 19250 by the way this car sells for [55:23] 19250 I mean that instead of a Boxster you're taking a gamble on the miles but widebody 9911 and I still think the 996 is a beautiful car I I know people think it's ha honestly Bas looking at the Carfax based how it was maintain Bas how [55:37] it be I don't I don't think this is as big of a gamble as like you might think with otherwise but yeah yeah nice good for this person um kenon go back to the questions please course okay Ron zarus ask Doug's Land [55:51] Cruiser versus kenan's M5 on a 24-hour endurance race with with the full mechanic team on both sides who wins that is a great question yeah cuz your reliability that you well I think the point is that mine would be more [56:05] it's a 24hour okay let me answer this question with kenon driving I would win no question about it could have driv it even if the cars broke down the same amount um but that's an interesting question I wonder what would [56:22] happen the problem is that I think your car is going to be easier to fix on the side of the track versus his like you need all this equipment and tools so probably get back on the track pretty quickly My Land Cruiser seems to do well [56:37] wheels to North Carolina your alter most recently changed by someone who laid on changed by a guy from El Salvador who showed up in a like a 96 Camry uh and [56:49] instead of like a little a little thing like a like a a what do they call them a yes he used a surfboard and he did it in front of my house and you know what he killed it and it's still running and boom can you do that with 9 and five I [57:04] needing to get underneath the car so that's that's helpful oh wow damn that must be nice so you know the answer to this my Land Cruiser by the way M5 really it just it would break down because kenon [57:17] only goes half throttle to begin with he won't push it hard enough to cause any damage did you floor the M5 at the racet track yeah of course ask you this but that car exactly what it was designed to [57:29] do which is go really fast on like highways that's what the M5 about this this is an endurance race we're doing Corners yeah that's that's breaks a bunch of times though it's a heavy guy yeah I think your Land Cruiser would be [57:43] punished on that particular it's not the Land Cruiser is oper when the Land it's pretty reliable the problem is when I let it says like every BMW well when let it sit that's where it has problems and Melissa is supposed to go back there [57:58] in a couple days it's been sitting for two and a half months we'll see what happens um okay let's go down to another question question here um blah blah blah blah oh Nick [58:10] writes what do you think of Saabs Nick why don't you take Nick's Saabs Nick why don't you take Nick's question um I don't think a lot of them very few thoughts I'll tell you what I I I think I still think there's [58:24] so cool because now you if you see someone driving around a saw it's like wow this person owns it from a car company that's extinct like they're putting up with some frustration to have to use this thing and [58:36] they do you have the same thought of w Packard yes when I see a Packard driving around I really think to myself wow yeah like yeah that person's really putting up with a lot I get excited for the sabaro I think those are super cool okay [58:50] the WRX variants but otherwise what about the what about the 97X do you remember that one that's the SUV it was the Trailblazer yep yep that they rebadged it wasn't the SUV they themselves designed it was just yeah I [59:05] mean that was the end of Sab for a number of reasons they just put in 9-7x maybe we've sold one of these I would love it if we I've seen one around no we more common yeah those are we sold two much [59:19] more common on our site the 97X is the much more common car great pictures of this one though yep that's how you do it that's how you do it that that action shot right there that makes you want to have it's a it's a sob you it's a sob [59:31] and it makes me want to own that car and they only sold 37 of them W no that's then the company shut down the saab's are great like stealth wealth car where but you're actually only one to spend like s although at this point it's [59:45] of less the case can you go back you go to personally I that to me three spoke to personally I that to me three spoke wheels that is cool that is a sob I La yeah that is a sob that's what we think of when we think of Sab do you do [01:00:00] know it's a ridiculous is it like really it's really rubbery right it's like rubber yeah it's same on 944 it's like this weird like porous rubber it's not always just think of the episode of [01:00:13] serviced and the mechanic is worried he's not taking good enough care about or the other one where he tries to buy a new 900 and then putty in a lane keep breaking off go back go back one picture Kon look at that third break light that [01:00:27] that third break light more than any I've ever seen screams this regulation production cycle and we just decided to comply but we had to those sheep skin too my answer to this question what do I think of Saabs um I think they're [01:00:42] they're interesting and they're becoming more interesting as the days we on um I cars like they were like Audi honestly there was a time when Audi had two kind of competed with each other and then Audi had a big glow up in Saab was [01:00:56] purchased by General Motors and sold a version of the Chevy Trailblazer so you know yeah didn't really work out for out in the end but I think I think they're said they're increasingly owned by people who are interesting there was a [01:01:08] cars and now like if you have one you're kind of putting up with some stuff y hand me down from someone who had a parent that was interesting right architect ultim respect the architect you know right um but yeah very uh yeah [01:01:23] I that's my fing withs too uh here's a question from Morgan Doug is there any that has a registration decal in the bottom of Center like British Columbia plate they put the sticker in the middle at the bottom in the middle of the [01:01:36] Illinois did it for a long long long time in the 8S and 90s and then they dealerships in Illinois Whose license plate frames were designed around that haven't pulled up a great picture of this pull up a picture of a 1993 [01:01:51] illinoid license plight this is the kind of hard hitting question that I want to be getting wow he's even slow to he's slow to type it out okay go to images you know how to do it I know how [01:02:04] didk okay there you go there you go the registration sticker is in the middle on was what Illinois and British Columbia only did and that looks great it was it [01:02:16] does something sort of similar it's in the middle of the numbers and letters currently um but not on the bottom middle but it was response to people license plates to steal the sticker and so they figured if they put it in the [01:02:29] center it wouldn't it wouldn't be a problem K Kenan is very bored at that this is not uh this is not BMW M card DG question okay we can move on to more rational stuff um what else is ending Kenan go back to [01:02:42] think there's some cool stuff uh this Jeep Cherokee country is ending kenon can you tell us about the BMW m2cs of course uh m2cs is a is a fascinating car I think that's one of the more desirable modern M cars so you got the last you [01:02:56] generation M2 which everybody really likes I personally love the way the new one looks but a lot of people don't um I so it looks great you got this incredible incredible performance out of the car cuz it was what it was the 444 I [01:03:10] didn't realize that um and you get it unlike the M3 CS you get the M2 CS with a manual right uh which is a big deal so in a lot of ways this is kind of the ultimate modern driving BMW I feel um and it wasn't like it was n like a [01:03:25] special touches including those gold wheels um and it's just a it's just a special car so I think if you if you wanted to like if you wanted to argue like what is the last like truly great modern drivers BMW this would be like a [01:03:41] a reasonable argument I think yeah agree with all of those except those Wheels ad you really think that I think the gold wheels on the Cs cars Look So Co not in a good way think it depends on the color kind Anket look but some [01:03:56] cool I think these are like in your face cuz it's one of the big distinctions between This and like a regular M2 and you show up at the gold wheels it's like oh it's like having an s200 CR with no air conditioning yeah no nub baby no nub [01:04:08] they're cool I'm surprised you don't like them you of all people yeah who puts I had gold hrees on a car in the past but I I just that doesn't Nick had gold HRS on an Audi TT whose motor he on an Audi TT maybe it was I don't know [01:04:24] whose motor he blew up when he missed a shift we the jurry still out the jur still out on whether the motor was blown what was the culprit I was simply just driving to work but I think I it was a combination of track days and a tune [01:04:37] that probably did the motor in yeah and a miss shift yeah this is coming down to a miss shift yeah this is coming down to the wire here 65 4 3 2 1 [01:04:51] tell us your bidd strategy we always ask people when they come on the show how do people when they come on the show how do you bid I so I'm I don't have your like big dog move where I like try to scare away the bitter pools I like to bid the [01:05:05] minimum increments but I wait for like 30 seconds left so that I have a margin of error if it doesn't go through or it refreshes um and then I like to what buying was I'll set up a zoom link with all my friends and then we can like egg [01:05:19] each other on and have that like inperson experience and that really like that's what we did when kenon sold his uh 355 I so much fun that way I was on second screen going with just and I muted the board meeting just to [01:05:33] very friendly at cars and bid so people were really rooting for me and the car right where your 4D GT is now and you weren't the only one there's a lot there I was told like a lot of people like watching it like reacting on their phone [01:05:46] of like what it was going for which I was very touched by um but yeah it was a but either way it was a great idea but W bidding party are a good bding parties bed and just hope to wait the other person out because I got time Nick [01:06:00] that's what Nick tried to do on that RS4 I remember that yeah that it was like 65 Grand he was like I'll go up to 70 and then $200 increments later he was like still B8 five yeah all right this down to 876 I agree with you by the way I [01:06:13] would never wait until the last second to bid it's just so dangerous and then being like it didn't work and it's like well yeah cuz your internet was slow in that moment like it wait just do it 10 seconds if you want to do it boom sold [01:06:27] 80,000 80 grand so what is that have we sold other M2 cs's uh what was a sticker on I wonder we have sold four of them in total now um so so look at that so there you go there there's the story of a market right yep that's right the first [01:06:42] one here that we sold went for 100 and then 84 and this one is 80 and you can kind of see where things are going they all had about the same mileage bid 2 in 2021 with no miles on it what the hell happened there I guess probably could [01:06:54] still get them maybe at the time new and so probably something to that effect high since that was that was they were a flipper but the 100 Grand the days of definitely over I like that spec though that's gold wheels work on that and the [01:07:10] they work on all them but so there you go I mean that that this car has lost 20 you're starting to see and we've been talking about it on the show I did that like prices start to normalize in The Used Car World this is a good example of [01:07:23] like rationality starting to come back to the used car W I agreed now I do will be viewed as something quite special but for now as all cars do most depreciation the other side I agree totally this car m2cs will be viewed as [01:07:38] special but regardless wonderful car to drive so fight and enjoy it that's honestly you're not going to lose much if the 1 m is any guide and frankly I could put 20 30,000 miles in the next four or five years on this car [01:07:51] guilt-free and probably get out of it maybe lose 10 less than a for Explorer yeah it's I mean well you're you're just going to be able to hold on to a manual goodlooking BMW those are rare right God knows the E60 isn't one [01:08:05] as the headlights it it passes a test God these are there's so many questions to do this one U why is Ferrari downsizing using less cylinders v6s instead of making 2 L V12 or smaller oh that would be interesting part of the [01:08:19] reason is that V6 that they're using um is like they Ferrari invests into another engine um like they they're going to use it for a long time 2 L V12 it's like that's still going to be hard to make that past emissions compliance [01:08:34] think that they view that as like the way they want to go it's a whole new mind the 2 L V12 I wouldn't mind it for the sound it would be cool to have the performance is electric but you still get [01:08:48] the I was driving that 296 you can there's some piped in sound in that car I think I believe believe they've been vocal about that but kind of hear it um but nonetheless the V6 they're making now is just ridiculous um next question [01:09:02] from a toaster what do you think is going to happen to Chrysler in the what a I don't know what has happened Chrysler okay so just so you know every other car company in the planet has has [01:09:17] brands you know General Motors got rid of s Saturn and oldmobile and all that and Chrysler has decided to add Brands and so they have RAM and they have Chrysler and they have SRT which for a [01:09:30] while was its own brand and they have Dodge and some of these Brands only make one car I think the Chrysler brand is down to just one vehicle which is the selling the 300 on their website they are but I just shot the final Edition [01:09:43] 300 and it's like over and then they also have a the base model version the Pacifica is called the Voyager but it's the same car just have two different is they do all these at one dealership [01:09:55] doesn't really matter the brand but it is weird that they've decided to like brand up I I don't understand any of it they should just just have Jeep and Chrysler and Dodge maybe and that should be it and then they're spending off ram [01:10:09] ram was weird yes that was an odd decision that was it does feel like the whole lineup's getting a little tired well there's definitely that they're Edition after 20 years or it's only been [01:10:22] remember the 300 came out you remember the 300 came out no5 uhhuh oh yeah it was so legit yeah wanted one everyone wanted one it was it was a Flex car and [01:10:34] fairly affordable and that like GM was selling the Chevy Impala which was like just trash the front-wheel drive trash 05 Impala and and Chrysler comes out with the Magnum remember that mhm and it was like damn the Dodge Magnum yeah [01:10:49] was like damn the Dodge Magnum yeah yeah oh wow oh that SP 360 that sold that sp3 sp360 sold for $23,000 I mean this tells you a lot here but all of these cars are from 20 years ago yeah y well because they called the [01:11:04] V8 the Magnum for a while so I think we've put that in man that's that's so look at that interior the interior on the first gen oh man the intering wheel is just the interior on my buddy Perry refers to this age of Chrysler Interiors [01:11:20] as it's as if they were making fun of their own customers is so bad it is like aggressively bad that Center stack that steering wheel but again it was I mean that the plastic go back the passenger side Dash over there the plast you could [01:11:35] like you could go through the car wash with the windows down and not damage anything right totally to be hosed down pressure washes so aggressively bad is center stack in this car go a couple more pictures the steering wheel is [01:11:49] more pictures the steering wheel is terrible um yeah there it is oh oh oh most of those are blanks and even the non- blanks they managed to make buttons non- blanks they managed to make buttons look bad I mean it's just so bad but it [01:12:03] whole point that was what they did that's how they made this Co packaging packaging that's how they made this car make sense yeah very cool all right what do we get coming up for sale here Ken [01:12:15] priest wagon is closing but we also have a Julia quadrifolia which you really love what an unbelievable fin I'm terrified to own one but everyone I know that's had a Julia quad has said like oh it's overhyped in terms of the [01:12:31] as big of a problem as people say San Diego could not sustain an Alpha Romeo there's one in Carl's bad there's one in Carl's B but the main San Diego one didn't have enough demand to stay open well I think that they all thought they [01:12:45] would sell more cars than they did it is so much more beautiful than anything other than any other sedan in this price point tons of power yeah 500 I like I can look at this person this is a that's an Enthusiast with taste what [01:12:58] do these sell for k i i see a C63 and I think oh that's probably like a mortgage broker or something no offense if you're a mortgage broker but like I don't assume you're a car guy I assume you're seeking the status no that's a good [01:13:10] point the other cars are more of a BMW Mercedes more of I have money my neighbor has an E500 so I needed the 63 to show him who's boss right this guy by the way Nick do you see that Nick pulling out 2010 ERA model E500 classic [01:13:24] nck been a little while whatever they they added some digits you know I mean bringing recently go back on recently this 18 we just sold sold for 42 how many miles 239 so like that's like a mid mile a little low mile yeah it looks [01:13:39] pretty well yeah better than you would think yeah yeah better than you would think so that 17 went for think so that 17 went for 365 yeah so yeah and I I drove one not [01:13:52] that long ago um to review I also drove it like when it when it came out I just they're just so cool um they drive so beautifully like you get all the Ferrari stuff like you get the the way the paddles feel is like exactly like a [01:14:06] got like a really really amazing sound to it I yeah I actually find that wasn't I know they can be made to S but it's louder than like a normal car yeah and really special um these also came you get the I I've never seen them the one I [01:14:23] drove that was a press car had the carbon bucket seats which were oh W nice I did so at a milon island when it came out they had all like they it was like the month it came out they were there with them it was it was wonderful but um [01:14:38] it was a very very cool event but Julia quad jio uh quite quite a so NE can we quickly discuss as this continues some mega Cruiser here in a sec but some auctions from the last week that we [01:14:50] Nick what do you got you you had something I wrote some stuff down here gets on could you go to the prowler that sold last week do you know what prowers are selling for now you need to buy if I had to guess yeah 22 22 wow I mean it's [01:15:07] well known that they're a little underpowered but a little underpowered it's a four-speed auto and blah blah blah how cool does this yeah for 22 that is so cool tell me something else for 22 you find me any 60s muscles car that's [01:15:20] not also drastically underpowered that's so true and would be reliable and like got a Dodge and trepid engine yeah you can go maintain it at the local Dodge and trepid under oh underlow for 22 look at those Wheels oh [01:15:36] this is also a car they all have that spoiler that is the coolest looking most insane thing I'm such a this Poler is such a guilty pleasure for me also oh and Lambo doors Lambo wow also I hate to admit this but I prefer it with the [01:15:48] bumpers on I think I think they added it kind of kind of the fact put like individual front bumpers on that that that they had to do that to comply but they did and managed to make it work I think looks so cool yeah I don't dise [01:16:02] Nick why haven't you bought a Prowler yet maybe one day it's very xp8 like and it's like quirkiness a Prowler and a mercy in the in the garage this is your opportunity I really want the next car to have a back seat for hauling kids [01:16:15] could actually use want to get something reliable like an a60 although this had the trailer yeah yeah that I'm sure that would my wife would love that Nick what did what did you like I the there's a Sprint blue B7 S4 that God Nick is just [01:16:28] deep Audy I just got to quickly I that that color is so cool for under 10 grand to have a V8 with ricaro it's a tip this is an automatic but like keep SC down it looks like uh Utah Utah but yeah really cool [01:16:45] and I love that combo and then there was a lp640 sold afterwards that I think was also just a great buy so Nick has a mercy Nick has the pre face so you think this was a good B at 200 yeah yeah I mean they're [01:16:58] they're had a wing it had a wing it had a blemish on the Carfax it needed a clutch needed a clutch and the brake calipers need to be repented yesterday intimidating as they sound like because clutches had to be replaced so often in [01:17:12] these cars there's plenty of shops that have done it as I recall we put this deal together right over the uh the final bid like 203 or something like incredible close so I'm not a surprised it closed but one more bit I think this [01:17:27] car is Iconic looking and you can't get much else in this price range that's nearly as special and I think we're at a point where I really believe that Mercy's are deeply deeply undervalued yep I agree um Diablo are selling more [01:17:39] Aventadors people have gotten into this Lambo thing they're realizing that like at some point too I'm going to regret sell that AR I think with this one you could put a clutch in it refinish the wheels take off the wing and immediately [01:17:53] flip it yeah um just because most people are looking for a bone stock version or or for one that they don't have to do stuff this that that last window is just shows you which I think is the craziest an e-gear will be 200 Grand and a manual [01:18:06] will be 800 yeah that is so and that manual car was rough right what didn't it so it must have been questionable in some way right incredibly special color but it had like crazy it have like 50,000 miles [01:18:19] ,000 miles on it yeah yeah that is insane by the way too big of a spread for a transmission I would love a manual I I don't think I can justify more than like 50% more for a manual based on Purely Driving [01:18:33] biger a spread I always talk about how that na Auto Supra is the car I want yeah yeah yeah because that spreads like 4X there you go it's the same there to sell 30, 250 that market is coming down [01:18:48] sell 30, 250 that market is coming down you want to go back to it yes uh every are cheap again Doug why aren't you bidding on this on the mega yeah Oh I Cruiser replacement it's gonna be even less reliable you know what the cool [01:19:02] Toyota Mega Cruiser everyone knows the Land Cruiser cruises land and the mega cruises Mega the cool thing about this one the mega Cruisers uh original wheel size you can't find tyes 4 this particular one [01:19:19] has aftermarket wheels that are like custom made to fit the mega but they fit normal tires so they're not 17 and 1 12 inch wheels they're 17inch wheels and so you can get tires on like the lmo2 you got to basically change out the wheels [01:19:31] to keep the tires on well you can put Super Swampers on an LMO too but it leads to some other issues you can make that work but there was there was no tire size that fit the mega look at this thing this is so cool [01:19:43] I want a mega so bad but here's what happened about a year ago we sold a mega for $310,000 and that set the mega World drive though like that was the one was a great V1 for sure and there's it's not a [01:19:55] mega world on fire and I think that everybody with a mega now thinks their trucks worth $310,000 we a guy there you go this one just bid did not sell at 865 frankly I think it's probably worth about a 100 um but people are thinking [01:20:10] our 310 sale mhm um that's the auctions those are the auctions today should we take a couple more questions yeah absolutely what else what else we got what else we got oh a gavl I should have a gavl scroll up a [01:20:23] more down there's so many questions yeah tons oh wow lot of accurate questions okay this one from try will launcha ever make a comeback from their rallying days [01:20:35] no I it seems to be Chrysler is part of this now Fiat Chrysler and it seems to to go back to that and I it blows me away you go to Italy and they they still drive them but they're all front-wheel drive trash very boring economy cars [01:20:49] that are really just not interesting or good uh it's a shame such a great back catalog though so many cool cars uh Brian asks should GM stop selling Buick Brian asks should GM stop selling Buick in America yes Zeb [01:21:01] Buick Nick doesn't know anything about Buick and kenon probably knows even less I was gonna ask do they still sell Buick Buick is still being sold can either of you name a Buick don't pull it up don't pull it up can either of you name a [01:21:14] Buick yes can you name the Regal the regal regal is long gone it's been [01:21:26] website isn't he the invista Jesus the oncore you're looking Las saber that was a good one the lasaber is not on sale Buick the rier how did you even get Enclave what friend do you know who owns [01:21:41] an enclave that you uh yeah my my former boss that's the only way I don't market Kenan doesn't even know what Buick is Buick hasn't been relevant in the Midwest old people drove Buick you know I know what know you know nice Park [01:21:56] Avenue yeah yeah that's what they're known for they're trash from that's why it was the cool to the parents no longer cool to the kids that's exactly maybe it'll come back when when when our dads were kids Buick were cool and that's [01:22:12] definitely Buick and Cadillacs and Cadillac has the same problem too but is the Escalade changed everything though yeah and the black wi cars are cool is so cool Kenan wants a Blackwing so badly [01:22:26] um next question do you think the 70 the the US market will go after the 70 reach 25 years old I want to talk about the 70 series Land Cruiser for a minute Kenan likes the 70 series and I think everybody has this wrong this is going [01:22:39] to be a hot take the 70 series Land Cruiser is the utilitarian Land Cruiser that's sold in other markets people like why don't we get that here we get the 4Runner it's the same it's better the 4Runner is a 70 series Land Cruiser but [01:22:51] good it doesn't have all the problems it doesn't have it's it's actually a safe vehicle that has airbags and stuff and a 70 series if they were to bring it here the cost to federalize it and get it imported and get it all ready to go it [01:23:04] 4Runner everybody who complains they don't sell the 70 series should just go buy a 4Runner you want a 20-year-old car that is old and crappy and reliable available to you you could go pick one up today yes I know 70 series are cool [01:23:19] it's like well there's the thing just hit you just said it yourself it's cool don't have to drive around look at that 91 I have a special connection with the [01:23:31] special connection with the 4Runner that's not that's not what I drove looking at Lions you know I I was driving a 7 I tell you what I will take go to the zoo it's not the same and we can go see [01:23:45] some Lions we go to the safari park go see some see some Lions yeah that's yeah my you you know wrong I don't think I'm not wrong about the fact when they're new the answer to [01:23:58] become 25 years old they do get some desirability as you can see with those results where you have some strong numbers for some cars I mean that one sold for 46 that's all modern and kill it out but even then there's a lot of 20 [01:24:10] kennon's does icon or anyone do like Resto mods of these no not really but they probably ought to maybe they will once they're they will I'm sure some of they're like getting around and they they do sells for some money but like [01:24:24] although I really liked I actually briefly considered buying the previous one go back to the silver one there that 91 cuz it was like bone stock and it was um it was left-hand Drive which is unusual and and it was like cool I was [01:24:38] remembered the 4Runner exists and and then you thought oh the of those either I bought a Land Cruiser bought an unreliable Land Cruiser it's great wow those tail lights look how narrow look at those narrow tires you [01:24:53] don't want this you want a land you want a 4Runner go buy a 4Runner I want a built Land Cruiser you want to built 70 series you do I love that's my favorite like yeah I love that truck I just love them they're so but you're you you would [01:25:08] never have such a thing hey man I was out I was I for a river up to the like doing stuff you can do that in a 4Runner yeah I know but it's not the thing it would be a plus like mine was a diesel and it was a manual it was like [01:25:22] it was you I'll get you a manual 4Runner we'll swap in a diesel me and weekend I want something special and like I want something that's really cool a 7even new seies and that's why most people want it yeah well the 400er is [01:25:36] let's do a cou more that's like having a like oh it's faster than your 4D GT it's like well yeah but it's not a 4D GT so you're saying that I'm behaving like that yes I'm just trying to make the [01:25:49] the point that everybody Pines for this thing we don't get but we get it and honestly the version we get is better you it's more Ruby it's just if oh but the 70 doesn't have any problems because it's old school and nothing [01:26:03] breaks you've been in a 4Runner lately it has hallogen running lights the backup camera has four pixels there is nothing that will break on that vehicle either it still has a 5-speed automatic it is old you want old we got it and [01:26:15] cool colors pick a pull up you're pitching logic he's pitching emotion and Nostalgia they're totally different but you could be emotional about a 4Runner 98 Ford Explorer and I'm aware that that wasn't the best SUV I could have bought [01:26:29] with my money but look at these type in TRD Pro type in 4Runner TRD Pro I want to see an orange one pull an orange one up on the screen we've never sold I'll take Cavalry blue go to Cavalry blue yeah lime Rush is great too [01:26:43] but look at Cavalry blue right there no yeah okay fine look at that that's cool is 40 Grand go pick up one of these this thing is built you want to go up to the windshield I'll take you up to the windshield in this I kind of want to get [01:26:57] a Land Rover Series 2 if you want to talk about foring to the windshield like that's too old for you guys how do you even know what that is how do you in remember the fast I could go was like 50 m an hour and like we would series an [01:27:13] Ohio and what did they do in the winter it just like got stored he also had a 2002 this was like such a cool collection of like quirky old cars damn those cars time is like 10 grand yeah probably probably okay go back to the [01:27:26] questions we get maybe two more two more two more two will the Scott cats go back up Scott Katz asks will the kunos ever break the $1 million Mark yeah oh yeah yeah I mean aren't downdrafts already to be clear yeah actually a lot [01:27:38] those are already over a million dollars and the downdraft cars nice downdraft version that was carburated it was not sold in the US you know what's interesting someone on Instagram posted they have a 25th anniversary Kos a 30th [01:27:52] Ann sc30 Diablo and then the 40th anniversary Mercy right and it's so interesting in that the Diablo is the best of the Diablos yeah absolutely the K and then mercy is like somewhere in between because it's a stick it's a [01:28:06] stick though so you got to get like were they all were all the 40th sticks I only reason it's Val though cuz it was a color it was a cool color in Wheels yep color it was a cool color in Wheels yep and a a placard yeah but but it came in [01:28:19] interesting thing I never thought about like the best the worst variant then the an anniversary collection of Lambos but you wouldn't really want to cuz you'd have to have a you'd have to have a kage anniversary but the sc30 yeah is like [01:28:33] the car it's like the coolest Lambo to exist I if the anniversary version had been that equivalency for the kunas it would already be over a milon yeah kunas is are already over a million I strongly believe that yes the Kosh will [01:28:47] bought one no actually I bought one cuz it's cool as hell Kenan wrote it with me the other day oh man I walked away from that experience like it's the second doesn't matter it's just everything about that car is an experience and to [01:29:01] be honest with you as you said to me and I totally agree just as a passenger it's get out of that car and you're just like I'm I'm good I don't need to like that was an experience it was amazing I'm done I don't want to drive the car for [01:29:16] four or five days but then you you said you start to get that itch again oh I I I I'll park it and say don't want to I'm good for like a while but then today I was like I wish I try to go and get it it started raining you like start [01:29:29] thinking oh I want to drive the special there's the meme of like oh if you walk it's the wrong car but like you should also look back and think that was exhausting like that or it was great or like career GT I don't feel exhausted by [01:29:41] but I feel like that was amazing when I park the career GT I'm like sad to be done with it for the day when I park the cach I'm like tired when I drive the the come down from like the high you know like I'm just especially CU [01:29:53] it's so loud it's like coursing through your body with no roof especially like your ears are actually ringing for that long but right it's that's what we are going to enjoy about Autos 20 years from now because the speed everything else [01:30:05] EVS can do but it's that like totally to say qua yeah I agree go back up there's probably one more we'll do one more one more do we like any of these what do we like [01:30:19] here see how here's a question from Charlie Hine at the bottom there MH how are Chevy SS values isn't that such a cool car um Chevy SS values remain [01:30:31] strong you have to type in Chevy SS as one word and then it will pull up one word and then it will pull up kenon not the not type in as Chevys SS as one word put in the like Ohio State University no no Chevys SS as one [01:30:51] point but apparently it didn't take okay go back go back odd request but all right we'll move on uh you implemented that initially and but apparently it didn't take um the values are holding up better than I expected these things are [01:31:03] that purple one for real money a couple of weeks ago mhm that that 6,900 mile is a great color name great color Alchemy purple beautiful car 50 Grand [01:31:15] by it I thought these would have depreciated by now no one wanted them 5050 Grand when they were new nobody wanted them right yeah I I don't dis wanted when it was new that has found a huge cult following on the aftermarket [01:31:28] and the result is that the values have stayed really really really strong Y and and it is so cool there's one uh one we see like regularly in the area it's like parked and it it is cool it is such an under the below the radar like you [01:31:44] really have to know what it is um and yeah it is a deep if you know you know probably thinks it is Malibu no I know these cars I'm I'm from Ohio this is Ohio I it's too bad they didn't make an [01:31:59] AC delete radio delete version of this how cool would that be I'd be going for 80 there is the there are dream versions of it though like the six-speed with looking for and apparently there were weird colors Alchemy purple is cool [01:32:12] that's very cool that blue is great too um this one I remember specifically this one was like a drag car yeah I mean the 700 horsepower it was nuts is that an Arizona plate no surprise yep you no no qualms at all about renewing that plate [01:32:27] I wish I I wish I could play it but the cold start video of this one is like we'll put hairs on your crazy built motor situ and the cam is just it's like you would never like again to see it like park somewhere you [01:32:40] see the rears like okay this isn't and by the way after putting all that money into that car the dude got what you would get out of one that didn't added z z so you had to really enjoy it yep you wanted a modded one that's the way to [01:32:52] buy it you wanted yep that's exactly right go buy a one that's been modded kenon can you return to the question list one more time there's one more question I thought was interesting which is from drunken hobo what import car are [01:33:04] legal in the USA other than the Audi A2 Nick take it away oh B7 RS4 B7 RS4 Avant yes Avant did I don't think they made it oh obviously did make incident they Nick [01:33:16] had this dream I still want to build my own but and you guys have sold a conversion on the site in the Nick had this dream of converting a getting it making his own RS4 ofon but his he thought that the best way to do [01:33:29] it would be thank you kenon for he thought that the best way to do it would be to take an RS4 sedan and put a wagon back on it instead of taking an S4 wagon and putting an RS4 motor which sounds a lot easier than the Bodywork I feel like [01:33:44] just a couple welds you saws all the the rear quarter off I still don't think it' be that hard but but imagine trying to get toine and not leak imagine that people replace panels and you're you're not replacing a panel you're adding I've [01:33:58] there were coach Builders back in the day this is totally back in the day they would sell a car as a chassis and then a shop that was devoted to doing this as their only business would create a body that still leaked I still maintain this [01:34:12] is doable however I con seeed that for whatever reason people tend to go the direction wag and they for whatever reason cuz don't want to add a portion to their car the reason why this makes sense on the conversion for this [01:34:27] particular car is that Audi sold a B7 S4 Avant right and then they sold the RS4 sedan right and so taking the S4 and converting the motor and the electronics and all the other bits is a lot more work than just putting an extra little [01:34:41] there's no electronics involved I mean that's insane much it's a lift gate like you could just run that straight to the battery with a switch can't could like shave the handles and then just do like a remote control there's [01:34:56] important that is this this is the stupidest thing although to Nick's Point kenon can you pull up those S classes that they made wagons of type in w40 that they made wagons of type in w40 type in w40 wagon someone did do this [01:35:10] okay but this was Nick don't get any ideas this was done by a shop that black one in the upper left this was done by a shop that had real [01:35:22] time and and and money to devote to it and that shop was called Mercedes Benz yes they did do this they there's so for this cuz that would be a totally different right if we could import [01:35:35] pull up that picture of the black one from behind so what they did no above center right there above above behind view like a mem SI it's the size of a [01:35:47] posted stamp but great great suggest what they did what they did was pull out what they did what they did was pull out that one they took E-class wagon U rear and they put it on yeah man that's don't get any ideas you know like with the [01:36:00] pickup they put the camper bed over the back is not like that put some Bondo there to cover the seams it's got to be doable but then you'd have to pull out the they put the camper bed over an open bed in the S4 you'd have to pull out the [01:36:13] there's a seat there there's like a seat there designed to be in a there designed to be in a sedan I I I I think it's I think it's doable we've we've built lays and we built all these conversions [01:36:26] race cars street cars that used to be race cars you've also gone to the Moon it doesn't mean you're going to do that anything is possible we've made race cars like the lante things where you're like what the heck is this anymore yeah [01:36:39] that became a road car that's become a race car again yeah yeah okay that's that that's all we can handle of this thank you very much everybody someone else asked GTI or Focus ST the answer is focus goodbye [01:36:53] focus goodbye [Music]