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title: 'First Look at the NEW Undercity Dungeon'
source: 'https://youtube.com/watch?v=VDa7vhF7Lkg'
video_id: 'VDa7vhF7Lkg'
date: 2026-09-19
duration_sec: 3134
channel: 'Xaryu'
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# First Look at the NEW Undercity Dungeon

> Source: [First Look at the NEW Undercity Dungeon](https://youtube.com/watch?v=VDa7vhF7Lkg)

## Summary

This video is a live playthrough of the Ruins of Lordaeron, a new dungeon in the World of Warcraft Classic 'Forever' (or 'Classic Plus') beta. The players explore the dungeon, discuss the high drop rate of blue items, and share their thoughts on class balance, dungeon design, and the overall feel of the new content.

### Key Points

- **Entering Ruins of Lordaeron** [00:00] — The group enters the Ruins of Lordaeron, a new dungeon in Undercity, and immediately notes the impressive atmosphere and music.
- **Blue items dropping early** [03:03] — The group finds multiple blue items early in the dungeon, sparking a debate about whether this is too generous compared to classic era, where blues were rarer.
- **Debate on blue item frequency** [04:38] — Players discuss whether the high frequency of blue drops is good for the game, with some preferring the rarity of classic era and others enjoying the more casual-friendly approach.
- **Dungeon location and hardcore mode** [10:46] — The dungeon is located in Undercity, and the group considers trying it on hardcore mode, noting that hardcore is on the beta but currently bugged.
- **Mage AoE nerf discussion** [15:23] — The mage player comments on the AoE nerf (only four targets), but says it feels fine for this dungeon since they only pull about four mobs at a time.
- **Power creep concerns** [20:14] — Players express concern about power creep due to the strong early blue items, comparing them to endgame gear like Darkweed Riches, and wonder if it feels too casual-friendly.
- **Testing between Era and Forever** [24:28] — One player tested a similar AoE pull on both Era and Forever and found the pacing almost identical, with Era being slightly easier, suggesting the game isn't significantly easier.
- **Secret boss via clicking flame** [43:12] — The group discovers that clicking on a flame triggers a secret boss, Victor the Vile, adding to the dungeon's non-linear exploration appeal.
- **Bosses completed and wrap-up** [51:17] — The group lists the bosses they've defeated (Bjork, Dictor, Butcher, Rathmael, Bandon, Witherfang) and decides to end the session, praising the dungeon design.

### Conclusion

The Ruins of Lordaeron is a well-received new dungeon with strong atmosphere and non-linear design, though the high blue drop rate sparks debate about power creep and casual-friendliness. The group plans to return for more testing.

## Transcript

Guys, we made it into the ruins of Lordaeron. Holy crap, this looks sick. Don't make me walk outside. Good call. Yeah, let's just stay in here.
Blue items everywhere. Woo! Oh my gosh. You have to get the head of the Baron? Level 21 quest. Wow.
Ok, lets lock this in and dial. I'll enable the damage meter.
Ok, do it. From the halls? Everyone is in our guild, that's what's up. Hi, Tourette. Okay, my action bar is bugged again.
Bro, the music in here is sick. You hear that? It was like a piano. I gotta turn this music up, this is rad.
Oh, it's already maxed. Dude, this dungeon is sick. Guys, this is classic plus.
We're playing classic plus right now. We are playing classic plus.
I hate spiders. They're might be in arachnophobia mode. I don't know.
I only called one quest to pick up. Wither Fang, that looks like a boss. Yo, from behind, I'm getting attacked from behind.
Oh, great, we pulled from up front. Yo, I got the sheets on this guy, don't worry about it. Everybody in the Wither Fang, lock in and dial. I have big cam. Yeah the mage rotation is definitely one barn right now but we are level 16 so it makes sense.
Yeah the assumption is brand new, brand spanking new. Who's looting? Whoa whoa whoa blue items!
blue items. Okay, wait, I almost pulled that. Okay, what is this? Ashy and Spirit Leather. Sick.
I might give the critique that they might have gone a little overboard with blues this early. Like, from RFD do you get any blues?
Do you get any blues from RFD? What if you don't? Do you? No, I don't think you do. Like, it's fine, but it's also maybe a little unnecessary.
Like, if they just dropped really good greens, like, it's fine enough. The fact that, like, everyone has just put any blues this early is like, you know, like I said, fine, but I don't know if I would have done that.
I meant RFC. Yeah, sorry, guys. RFC. Not RFC. I'm like an RFC, does RFC drop any blues?
In vanilla, no, but it does now. Okay, so they scaled it up. My action marks are just bugged. I don't know. Do you guys like that?
That you get, like, a lot of blues early? From quests and from dungeons? Or do you kind of like them rarer? How it is in era? So you guys seem pretty split on it.
I don't know if I really care that much, but I think my preference would be no blue... Like, how it is in era. Like, no blues for a little longer. I don't want to, like, make a character and get this from you quick, but I don't know if it matters that much either.
Oh, these are elite mobs. I'm in doubt, guys. Rare feels better when you actually get one. That's what I'm saying. I think I would have actually preferred a lot of these dungeons to drop greens instead of blues, but that's fine.
I'm being pretty nitpicky with that one, but still.
Bro, the music in here is so sick. The ambiance, the mob. Like this is rad
He's got silence, yeah We're skipping a lot of the packs here.
Honestly, I don't even mind full clearing if we want to. So this just seems to be our first time in here.
Did you find out what to do with the fire? Not yet, but I think it's a similar quest as God. Dude, this music is epic. Yeah, it's really good. Select 10 bloodier insignias and take them to Stormwind.
Alright. Someone's cold.
Yeah, so this action bar just keeps bugging. Might be the YAML mat on that new thingy.
I'm going to keep clearing this, I wish this took out a massive courtyard kind of dealio.
I'm in RFC now and it's all blue. Yeah, I think they updated that in Forever, right?
It's not normally like that in Era. Having run in both these city dungeons, I think ROL is cooler. Dude, the Ironforge one is so good, too, though.
Oh, wow. The ghouls come up. When you walk through... Man, this is awesome.
Nice, we get all the insignias from this. 5 out of 10, I like it.
I guess I shouldn't go too much further because we could aggro more ghouls or something.
That's sick. That's sick.
Dude this dungeon is really cool. Ruins of Lordaeron, man. Where's that located?
Undercity. Lash Golem. Sick. You can get here at the lines if you run in. We'll definitely have to try to do this on hardcore, that'd be lit.
We'll prop, mining into you right now. right now.
Ah, don't need that. Think it'll be too hard to get through on hardcore? Well hardcore is a PvE realm so you might be able to just walk right in to be honest.
Hardcore is on the beta now, yeah. Any cool new inchy things?
There is a lot. I haven't looked at it yet. Yeah, Eureka is really OP.
Very, very good. Why aren't you playing hardcore? Oh, it's the beta. I want to, like, test things out. but I don't want to be afraid of dying. I want to die, you know? I want to push the limit, try some stuff.
Didn't they say sneak in at the panel, surely? Or not meant to just walk in? Yeah, maybe there's another entrance. I don't know.
Hardcore's not out yet. People told me earlier there was an option. There was like an update and an option. Unless I got trolled, but...
Weird. Oh, here. Oh it was a bug and they took it back out Oh interesting
Dude, this for Only Thing 3 is gonna go so hard. Like, I just see this guy get knocked up, and Only Thing 3 is definitely gonna get knocked into more mobs. They're gonna pull more mobs and everyone's gonna die yelling at each other. It's gonna be great.
How do we join the guild?
You can just message anyone. Okay, so this is another boss or something. There's another quest in there, too. I wonder how we're supposed to get in there.
I guess this way.
Is this a PPP or a standard server? We're playing PPP. What's the gold situation? It looks pretty standard, although they said they were going to monitor resources a lot and boughters and gold buyers and this and that so we'll see how much that actually affects prices of consumes
I like end games.
Insane healer, let's go. Yeah my healer is definitely healing here.
W. Typical mage gameplay. What do you mean? Topping the charts or what? How does the nerf to AoE feel?
I feel fine for this. The nerf day we get only four targets but we're only pulling about four anyway so it works fine
How am I in range of that? I'm super dead on that plot Okay.
Okay. They just keep resurrecting or something, bro.
My last water. Crap. I can't wait to play this but I don't see the point of playing the beta.
Yeah, waiting is completely fine. I kinda want to see this dungeon in there. What, Sherwood's spec got the most love?
I don't even know. Dude this place is massive, here we go. How do we get in there? Guess we just clear around. One way to find out, let's get in there.
What's up here? Dude! Look at that!
Brother Stargoyle too. Dude, these are going to come alive, aren't they? gargoyles too. Dude, these are going to come alive, aren't they? He abandoned. Oh! Bro,
this is so cool. Oh yeah, the gargoyles come alive. Let's go. I want to go down there and I love this dungeon as a kid.
This is brand new. I love this dungeon as a kid.
I love this dungeon as a kid. I loved this dungeon as a kid. This is brand new. Lord of Me or Overlook.
So we can probably jump down and kill this guy if we want.
Yeah, let's give it a try. I'm pulling aggro here.
She's crushing it. Oh, wow! Am I the only quality in the group?
Oh, turns out I am. Whoa! Probably pretty good for the healer though. Jeez. Those are kinda cracked. Yeah, you can pull a couple more bars, full ding though. Jeez.
Dude, I rolled a 69 in one. Okay. There we go. One more level, we found these. As much as I love really good early blue loot,
I'm curious what the other functions drop now. It's just, like, getting blues this early this good, this feels kind of weird. So we'll see how this scales. You know what I mean? We'll see. Like these are like
as good as like Darkweed Riches or whatever they're called These are like insanely good You can get them 16 drops
I don't know How are you guys feeling about it? Does it feel like QLP? Or does it feel good? Power creep? Yeah I'm a little nervous about it We'll see though Seems more casual friendly, yeah you just gotta hop in some functions and get some fear.
Oh crap. Yeah we must be dead here.
Nice, okay. Yeah, my addons are experiencing some errors here.
Yo, my team is walking in. Definitely need to reload after this. Dude, my healer, my tank, you guys, everyone's die over here.
Well done. Nice. Very, very nice. Very, very nice.
A growth, mace is still of outer mana issues. I mean, yeah, yeah. definitely like the mage class. You're not going to get away from that. Like, even in TBC. Even in Raph a bit. That doesn't actually go
away until, like, Mop. Like, even in Kata a bit. Like, definitely in Classic Valak, yeah, you'll be oom. But, I feel you. I feel you. Yo, Bjork, that looks like a brand new boss.
I just did a direct comparison to my hardcore character my leveling is like four minutes apart yeah the pacing seems exactly the same
yeah we got a $10 super shop in console script there's the console script errors zero. I like that.
Getting Blizzardable Everempt from a pulling system? I don't know, I'm very pro pulling though, so see how it goes.
Do you think reduced mod XP in dungeons might encourage gifts? I don't know, I think it really just encourages do the dungeon at least once for the quest. Right?
I was able to sell a hogger as a level 11 hunter. Don't know about power creep, but felt bad. You should be able to sell a hogger as a level 11 hunter in era as well.
You just stay far, slow him, and kite him out. I actually did some tests between Era and Forever myself.
I leveled a 14 gnome mage on Forever and did the same pull on Era and Forever, and the pull looked almost identical. It was a four-man AoE pull. If anything, it was easier on Era and harder on Forever,
which is kind of crazy. I'm a little turned around here. Yeah, there's a boss patrolling.
There's another quest this way. Yeah, the gnome racials are just good for priest. They have like a guardian angel style thing. Like, it seems really good.
Okay, looks like some boss is coming back.
So let's get the mana and try the boss now. Is this giving you bad memories of Searing Ghouls? Uh, no, I don't think about Searing Ghouls that much anymore.
I'm feeling pretty good about it all. D-save. It's fine. I'm chill. I chill I very chill Oh a boss is behind us I thought he was that way Alright I called it Bjork
last time, so it's probably Bjork, because everyone's laughing at me. Is that better guys, Bjork? It's gotta be better. It's gotta be. It's gotta be much better. Anti-magic
Shield. Okay, let's do some loot drops. Immune. Sounds about right. That's tanky. Two misses in a row. Wow.
Dang, we'll just warm this up. It's fine. 1-1-1. 1-1-1.
Does miss equal resist now? Uh, maybe? Bone, rust, leggings, 7 strength, 6 ashy, 3 fear. That is crazy, bro.
These items are just so good at this level. I don't know the RP behind Bjork. Maybe some of the chat does. You can help us out here. Do I recommend Mage for leveling?
Like, it's good, but it's definitely more one-button for sure. What dungeon is this? It's Ruins of Lordaeron in Honor City. Right when you walk into the left.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Five elites here. No CC. Alright. Big heels on me, baby. Big heels on me.
I actually need to test if leeway's still in the game. Okay, I think we're chill.
Nice. Cut it out. Lowered around the graveyard.
Okay, so this is Rosmael. There's a quest over here, too. I don't know how many bosses are in this place, but let's definitely kill this guy. Can I change damage meter to current? Yeah.
Looking much better there actually.
Okay.
Okay. Yeah, three ghouls over this way.
Over this?
I mean, they just can AOE still, guys. They can. Arcane Resistance. Eh. Pass on that.
Do you know if he's getting deleted or what's going on?
I don't think so. He's going to stick there and rot, I suppose.
I'm on sod right now doing max hard mode 4. I was just thinking to myself who is playing sod when this is out.
You're playing sod. How's sod going? Is it lit? Arcane explosion being effective at this level is crazy. being effective at this level is crazy. It's the only button I can press for good damage.
Bring this assortment fitting 10,000 experience. So the last quest is Head of the Baron. There's a boss after this by the death.
Hopefully they keep epic, really raricing, Louis, but I totally hear you, man. I think blues are definitely dropping like candy right now. It wasn't too bad getting here as a lion, so I just had to die a few times.
Well, besides that, yeah, that was pretty chill. Ooh! Woohoo! I mean, bro, these items are cracked. Level 19 blue feet.
Legs. Wand. Gloves. We're going to be, like, full blues by level 20, man. Holy moly Where's my cross armor?
I was waiting to see if anyone was paying attention Before I rebuffed Thank you We have one guy in the chat paying attention Rock, thank you bro
Why do you jump with arcane explosion? Assuming leeway works, it actually makes the radius bigger when you jump, but I don't know
if leeway is actually in the game. We'll have to see. Snuggle! Thanks for the C1.
I mean I got stopped at the west pole many times to level 17 or 18. I mean that's different to get like one capstone item after clearing an entire dungeon at like
closer to 20 with the last boss being 21. Should make all buffs one hour now? Uh, Ana likes it one hour but frost armor yeah only 30 minutes.
Is it just Frostbowl, Frostbowl, Frostbowl, Wand, Frostbowl, Frostbowl, Frostbowl, Wand?
Yep. Mage is a pretty simple design right now. I was trying to theorycraft, like, how to make it more complex, but, you know, it is classic WoW after all. You know, it's not supposed to be crazy complex. You want to keep it simple.
End scene! Thanks for the crime. Why not play cross?
I actually am playing cross, yeah. Seems very easy. Yeah, that's the whole point, you know. Showing more of like an easy casual approach where you can just hop on and play with some friends and play World of Warcraft
and enjoy being in the game versus like needing to mid-master dial 100 weak auras and add-ons and you know this and that. Yeah, we get Ice Lance
like pretty soon, level 20. With Ice Lance I think it will help a bit.
Yo, ah, can you switch to your one?
Okay, so we're looking for Head of the Baron. I think there's a lot of stuff to still explore in here. This place is massive.
Are you available to answer a question for me and my friend? Yes.
Oh, what's in here? Nothing. Maybe that does go to something, though. This guy at my party says he really likes the open dungeon design non-linear.
Right, you can kinda just like crawl around and enjoy stuff. See what's going on.
I mean we're looking for Head of the Baron at least. I don't think it's this way. Yeah. Can we even get out this way?
No, I think we have to go back around. Yeah, no, it's out this way. We want to go back out this way. Pretty sure.
Namespace show up at 40 yards now, not 20. Yeah. Okay.
I mean, we can go up. But we don't think we need to. Let's just start clearing this stuff. I know you're an ally but this warrants lane turning is great and running at 30% movement
speed around Morgor? That's crazy. Yeah, this is a new dungeon, yep.
Do you think mage will still be AoE? Seems like the shaman and rogue are up there with you still. Yeah, I think mage will still be AoE king. Seems like that's definitely the case.
Can mage's AoE farm? I don't know yet. That might be actually gone. Well, okay, there's probably some way you can do it, but we'll see how viable it is. Warm Kin Ring. We can click on that fire over here.
Might be something. Oh, he clicked on it. Yup.
Knew it. Crap
Oh, I got my shrink off in between waves. Insane. You guys got this. You guys got this. I'm going to keep shrinking for now. You guys totally have this. I'm going to keep shrinking. You guys got this for sure. I'm gonna keep drinking.
Okay, I'm coming out now.
Okay, I'm moving. I saw the guard guys. My group is really locked in dialed. Who's looting? What's that?
Nice. I mean Mage's life is still there, like look at the meters, like where ASK has to fight, we come in, plant some AoE and we're top.
Like that's generally how Mage plays, right? Oh crap. Okay I got my shrink off again. I just have to sit down and shrink this entire 15 seconds I think.
Yeah you guys got this. you guys got this
okay Nova flamestrike AE
Eureka for half mana cost. Wont here We got more ghouls. These are a little different than steering ghouls.
Ragged ghoul, plague ghoul. Sauce. Yo, scrimps don't die. Everyone on my team is like really tired though. Rams don't die!
Everyone on my team is like really dialed though Do you have Evo at 16? No that was an Evo troll You get trolls out in the world
Okay, I shrank, I shrank, I shrank. Yeah, wait, what if we just don't stand here? Wait, let's just stand over there and shrink between waves.
Lol. Let's just all go over there. You tech? Yeah, I saw that. We don't actually have to stand right where they spawn, guys.
Earthbite totem, very overpowered.
I'm gonna check the loot over here guys, but don't follow me. Check and see if there's anything good here.
Oh great, it's over. Nice, it's over now. Nice. That was crazy. Ooh, Victor the Vile!
Cool, so clicking on the flame is like a secret boss. Dude, look at that smoke and the fire. And the fog and the hype.
People are already buying gold, because if you buy gold on a beta, I don't know what to tell you. Oof, we missed that one? Yeah, we actually just saw that one. Out of the corner of my eye, I was mousing over everything. I was like, yo, we can click on the fire.
This one button rotation is going crazy?
Yeah. I don't know how it goes
Dude this guy is... okay Guys I'm completely out of mana I need to kill this
Nice. What's the loot? What's the loot? Bloody chest wraps. Nine agi, four stam, four int. Sick.
Oh, Baron. The Baron. We found him. The Baron over here. I see his head. I see what we need now. Alright.
I said this way. More hybrid gear? I like that. I actually like the hybrid stuff a lot. lot. So this guy's hat's back and forth. So cool, bro. Skellies, ghouls. Dude, they flush
I don't know how to get over there. Is it this way? Yeah, I think it is this way.
It's probably this way. Or is this dungeon in Undercity? Did I find the secret banshee yet?
I've seen banshees. I don't think it's a secret one.
Do you think you can get here to ally and hardcore?
I think you probably could, but we'll see. We'll see if it flags you and you run in. How do you get to Undercity? You can take the boat from Stormwind. I guess we've got two boats.
What about the UI, the UI, the UI, the UI, UI? Classic UI Forever add-on. It's a little buggy still, but that's what I'm using right now. We'll see. I'll probably try a couple different ones, kind of gravitate towards the one I like the most.
Honestly, I don't mind the new action bars in the new Minimap that much. The one I really don't like is the unit frames, so I might end up just using better blitz frames, or who knows. I don't know. We'll figure it out.
They keep the classic UI coming to forever on Twitter? Shut up. Did they actually? No way. Wait, link me that. You're trolling. This guy's gotta be trolling.
People would have said something sooner. I got baited, there's no way. I definitely got one guide. Link it or fake. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. or fake. That's old you wow in the chat. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm waiting.
Old you wow. We're all waiting on you, bro. Yeah, nothing. Nothing at all. I was going to say, bro, if they actually did, people would be spamming me, I think.
That's like the one thing I'm like really wanting. Does Heeko's thoughts on Mage Forever talent? I actually want to listen to that. I'm really
serious. What do you think? I actually kind of want to do like a mage think tank. We bring all the mage players together like me, Heeko, Pedrookie. What other like mages are there?
Like maybe we need some PVE mages. Who's like a PVE parser mage? Joker. Yeah, Joker. Maybe Ampy even. Amper, Joker, me, then Rookie and Tico.
You know what, I'll try to organize that. That would actually be cool. I'll try to organize that, that would be super fun. Alright, Therans, what are we doing here?
How do I have aggro? I'm pumping. Oh! Don't want to run into those mobs. I almost just did.
The mage council, yeah. Okay, so we got the baron's head. That was nice. Now, meat hook, Meat Hook, Slicer, Dagger, 1.8 speed. Four Ashes, three Sam. Not bad.
Huge. Okay, so the quest turn in for this is at the start of the dungeon. Is this like SMGY? Not really. And we can keep clearing too.
There's gotta be something else in here. Captain Truman. Oh, that's the quest at the start. Turn that quest in and we did. Did he kill Spider Boss yet? Uh, no?
Y'all all game 17, boys? Put on these brand new legs? Little more permafrost? Let's get it.
Dutch and XT was nerfed, but the Cleft XT was bombed. So overall it's about the same. You still wanna spam it. Okay, so we entered here. Let's turn Cleft in. Uh... And then...
and then try to do another round. So five stamina ring is probably the move here.
Yeah, five stamina ring. And you can feel like a third of a level from that quest turn in, which is just correct.
Oh my gosh. Our warrior is just going to keep dying at this dot. So once I heal him through it, my healer is going to let him die. I'm going to res him. Oh, well, never mind. The shaman didn't get that memo, so we healed him up.
All good. Okay, so Witherfang is dead. We killed Witherfang. There might be another boss. I say we just do one more big lap.
Let's just do one more big lap and see what we missed. We did Bjork, Dictor, Butcher, Rathmael, Bandon, Witherfang. We've done all of those except Lordaeron's Captain, I think.
Okay, if these banshees don't rock anything, I might call cheese. Just because it's very late where I live. 6pm is very late? Yes, it is. Definitely very late where I live. Like I said, guys, very late where I'm at.
Alright, well, cheese. We will be back here. We will definitely test some more. Definite GG's for the first round though. I like this place a lot. I like this place a ton.
I like the Ironforge place a ton too. Guys, today was legendary. Thank you all for being here. I am tapping out. I'm gonna get some food and lay down.