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title: 'How Mentorship Helped Nathan Escape the Endless Losing Cycle'
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date: 2026-08-05
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# How Mentorship Helped Nathan Escape the Endless Losing Cycle

> Source: [How Mentorship Helped Nathan Escape the Endless Losing Cycle](https://youtube.com/watch?v=iSOr4ulBsC8)

## Summary

In this interview, Nathan, a trader in his early 20s, shares his journey from losing money with options and Forex to becoming consistently profitable with ICT concepts, earning over $150,000 in payouts. He discusses his trading strategy, the importance of journaling and discipline, and how mentorship and community played a crucial role in his success.

### Key Points

- **Nathan's Background and Success** [00:01] — Nathan started trading three years ago, initially with options and Forex, but found success with NQ after learning ICT concepts. He has made over $150,000 in payouts and became consistently profitable within six months of joining a mentorship.
- **Trading Strategy: Turtle Soup and SMT** [02:44] — Nathan's primary strategy involves turtle soup trades, which are entries at highs or lows with tight stops, often combined with SMT (Smart Money Technique) divergences and fair value gaps. He also uses the 9:30 manipulation pattern, where the market moves opposite to the daily bias before continuing.
- **Example Trade: 9:30 Manipulation** [05:14] — Nathan shows a trade where he shorted after a 9:30 manipulation, targeting an internal low, and made around $5,000 in 10 minutes. He emphasizes the importance of waiting for the manipulation and having a clear draw on liquidity.
- **Key Shift: Less is More and Journaling** [06:47] — Nathan attributes his success to adopting a 'less is more' approach, avoiding overtrading, and journaling every trade. Journaling helped him identify and eliminate mistakes like trading the Asia session, which was a major loss source.
- **Mindset: Set and Forget** [08:38] — Nathan advises not to overanalyze trades once entered. He uses a 'set and forget' approach, only exiting early if there's an SMT or a clear reason. This prevents closing winners early due to fear.
- **The Big Shift: Getting Burned and Discipline** [09:58] — Nathan believes the pivotal change came from repeatedly losing and finally committing to his plan. He stresses that discipline in life (gym, diet) transfers to trading discipline, and that identity change is crucial.
- **Advice for Struggling Traders** [11:35] — Nathan's biggest advice is 'don't give up.' He emphasizes focusing on the process over the money, building yourself as a trader, and following your rules. He notes that the moment you stop focusing on money is when you see improvement.
- **Heart Posture and Submission** [14:20] — The interviewer and Nathan discuss 'heart posture'—being humble and focused on improvement rather than money. They compare trading to a relationship with God, where submission and letting go of control lead to success.
- **Treating Trading as a Profession** [18:14] — Nathan emphasizes having a routine, waking up early, and preparing mentally before market open. He treats trading like a job, not a game, which is essential for consistency.
- **Prop Firm Experience: TopStep vs Apex** [20:15] — Nathan recommends TopStep over Apex due to Apex's unrealized trailing drawdown, which he finds mentally draining. He uses TopStep 50K accounts, buying five at a time and trading them aggressively to pass evals quickly.
- **Prop Firm Strategy: Aggressive Evals, Derisk Funded** [22:18] — Nathan's approach: trade evals aggressively to pass in 1-2 days, then derisk on funded accounts by starting with 5 micros and scaling up. He emphasizes that one payout can cover many account costs.
- **Payout Strategy: Building Buffer** [23:58] — Nathan builds a buffer on funded accounts before taking payouts. For TopStep, he doubles the drawdown (e.g., from 2K to 4K) before withdrawing, ensuring he has room to trade without blowing the account.
- **No Single Aha Moment** [25:32] — Nathan says there wasn't one pivotal moment; profitability came from consistent rule-following, journaling, and avoiding unnecessary losses like trading no-news Mondays.
- **Importance of Mentorship and Community** [27:08] — Nathan credits the mentorship and community for his success, providing guidance, accountability, and like-minded peers. He recommends it for those needing structure and support.
- **Final Advice: Don't Give Up** [28:33] — Nathan's final message: don't give up. Trading is hard, but if you keep going and do what you're supposed to do, you'll become profitable. He guarantees it.

### Conclusion

Nathan's story illustrates that consistent profitability in trading comes from a combination of a solid strategy, disciplined execution, and a mindset focused on process over money. Mentorship and community support can accelerate this journey, but ultimately, it's about personal growth and perseverance.

## Transcript

early 20s and in just three years of trading, he's already made over $150,000 in payouts. After joining my mentorship and being my student, and diving deep into ICT concepts, it only took him 6 months to become consistently
profitable. And since then, he's been scaling his accounts, refining his strategy, all to [music] new levels. In this interview, Nathan shares exactly his trading, the mindset that kept him consistent, [music] and the key shifts
successful. This is one of those stories you just put in [music] the work and follow the process. But let's jump in. All righty, guys. Welcome back to another video. I'm here with Nathan, one
killing it recently. We wanted to start doing some more student interviews and problems that they've had, how did they overcome it, how are they seeing success from, you know, people that are actively getting payouts consistently um within
know, share as much knowledge as possible. So, Nathan, I have some questions for you, but first, you know, introduce yourself. You know, I'm I'm I'm very happy because we've we I know we we we played a game of Valerant
>> last week. Um, but >> you've been absolutely killing it, bro. of tell us tell us a little bit of a story of >> how you got into trading. Um how you ended up finding me, just kind of
>> All right. Um yeah, so I'm Nathan. I've been trading for around 3 years now. Started with options, then went over to Forex and then finally found the love of Forex and then finally found the love of my life, NQ. Um options never worked.
Forex never worked. I tried like just losing, you know, and I don't even know how to like explain how much like you've helped me with your trading. I just have >> You made it happen though. You made it
>> Yep. Yep. Yep. Um and yeah, the way I was able to find you was funny enough, I started like a lot of people with TJR with his boot camp. I was watching that every day and then he ended up going on a vacation with you to Miami and then
>> like two years ago. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, you guys went to Miami, found out about you, found out your channel, and ever since then, just fell there on started getting payouts,
the markets, and that's pretty much it for me right now. going, you know, a little bit more in depth. Tell me about your your strategy. Obviously, you know, you you trade similar similarly to me, but, you know,
it comes down to strategy? because I also want to know, you know, before you you struggling with when you started getting payouts? What was what was the happened? But tell me a little bit about like your strategy. What are you looking
>> Yeah, so um going into the day, it really uh depends on the type of market conditions. What I've been really liking is uh more of uh soup trades just [snorts] more of like changing the states and having my stop losses at like
the highs and lows, I wasn't really comfortable with the size of the stop. So, I wanted to adjust my trading style so I could have smaller losses and better riskreward. So, me learning turtle soup that helped me. And that's
pretty much it. I usually wait for some type of soup in either direction. And if there's a SMT, that's like my bread and butter. SMT soup inside of a fair value gap. That's like my model. And yeah, uh another one of my models that I've been
studying a lot um is 930 manipulation. What I notice a lot with the opening candle is we would always have a move in the opposite direction of the drawing >> There's one yesterday though. >> Yeah, yesterday. Yes, we had a Yeah, we
had a move higher. And usually if the [snorts] market is very bearish, it'll just go up so fast and wick down instantly. and me studying the markets trading for 3 years so I've been noticing it and it's a little bit more
of an advanced strategy. I usually just slap it like I don't wait for you know any um more confluences but that's just something that comes with experience and yeah I usually just slap the trade stop at that wick and hold till the draw. So,
you're so you have a draw on liquidity, right? Having an understanding where the market's going to draw to, looking for some sort of high or low that it's going watching and doesn't understand, you know, what turtle soup is basically just
market is bullish or bearish, we want to see the market go in the opposing lower, we want to see it go take a high and then that's really where So, the execution is is you're being more aggressive with the entry, like almost
at that high having tighter risk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but it all comes down to so losses and your wins, you know, what does it look like and the differences guessing it has to do more so with the confidence of the draw.
>> Yeah. So, um depending on like the draw, like for example, uh today my draw was the 15-minute fair gap that never got uh filled. I can't really show it, but um If you want to run if you want me to like I' I'd love to see you run through
want. >> Okay. Um, well, today's a little bit harder cuz there wasn't really a soup. Or I could go to trade path and I could and I could show you. >> Show whatever.
>> Okay. Yeah. All right. So, this is a perfect example of what I was talking about, especially with the 9:30 manipulation. I took this trade. Yeah. It was yesterday. I ended up making like around $5,000. It's actually pretty
nice. So going into the morning obviously I wanted to see a continuation lower after having this displacement move down the day before. So going into the morning I just waited for any form
of manipulation. So you can see here morning opens on the 5minute. It won't show the entry but yeah basically we ended up pumping up right at open. You that high and once I start seeing this reject heavily here I knew that this was
that's just something that I've noticed over the years with market. We see that a lot. So, I ended up just slapping a short stop at the high and then I was just targeting, you know, the draw,
which was this like internal low and >> these lows. That's pretty much it. That was literally the trade. Easy. I was done in 10 minutes. And that's just like testing has been working a lot. And that's a lot of the time what I've been
taking recently. Um, and yeah. you has something has something changed like payouts and by the way how how how much in payouts have you have you gotten now >> over six figures uh >> gotten you know close to 150k in payouts
>> crazy you think is like your biggest shift when it comes from you know before you started getting payouts and and you know is it you know continue to ramp up as
>> yeah um of course you know with trading it's never going to only up and honestly it's what you're always preaching which is less is more you know just stepping trade every day you know those couple days that we are at alltime highs that
was like the most bad PA I've probably seen in my whole career of trading like and it's like people try forcing it so much like oh I needed to take a trade today I need to take a trade instead of just sitting back and realizing that you
not taking a trade is eventually going to lead you to making the money in the of, you know, just waiting for the setup, waiting for good price action. I'm not even trying to promote, but journaling is the most important thing.
I I'm going to talk to everyone cuz I used to be like you guys, bro. And bro, enough. I'm like, "Oh, I'm not going to journal, bro. I I already know my head, you know. I already know, you know, oh, I overtraded. Whatever. I
forgot about it." If you don't write it down and have it in your face every day, you know, seeing it repeatedly, oh, I made this mistake, this mistake, this learn. So, I really think that journaling is what really made me go to
the next level, you know, seeing the mistakes and seeing it that it was just Like, one of my uh mistakes was trading Asia session. When I was trading Asia trading Asia session, right? >> And you only knew that when you could
>> Yeah, exactly. So, I'll tell myself, "Oh, I'm not going to trade Asia Session be like, "Damn, I'm trying to make money. I'll trade Asia Session just so I don't have to wait for New York." Guys, I'm telling you, don't do that. Don't do
>> And and something I'm I'm curious to to know, like, one thing I've always said is you you'll feel the most successful or you will be the most successful when amount of work. Would you say that that that that makes sense in your case as
>> Yes. Yes, for sure. Like this might sound crazy, but sometimes when I enter a trade yesterday, for example, when we were just chopping uh right here, I started playing Valerant. Honestly, if you if you sit there overanalyzing your
trade every time, it could cause you to like lead to you closing early and stuff like that. Honestly, set and forget to your trade. You have your bias. The only reason you should be exiting your trades early is if there's an SMT or a reason
basically >> it. But yeah, less is more. Trade, journal, that's it. You know, no need to do all the extra stuff. You already know your set your setup or your strategy. No reason to learn new stuff, watch new
videos. There's no reason for that. >> How long have you been trading um ICT concepts? Did you initially learn it from me? Um yeah actually uh from you is when I got more in depth you know like watching the boot camp of TJ learn you
know fair value gap liquidity sweeps but it was never as in-depth as learning it from you you know learning SMT standard deviation you know all like the more advanced concepts. Yeah. Uh it's been probably a year and a half now trading
>> Wow. And what do you think like when when you look back on your journey what was the big shift? Like what what just caused it from go to like in payouts? >> That's a hard question cuz there's never
really, you know, a solid answer. But I really think it's getting burned over and over again. You know, you there's there's a switch that happens in your non-stop. You know, you lose, you lose, you lose, and like every day you're
like, "Oh, is trading for me? Am I gonna make it? This and that." But you just have to believe and like keep going and know that the only way you're really going to make it is if you follow your plan. You stick to your rules. And you
something, but if you don't, then it's never going to happen. Also, another thing, being disciplined inside of your actual life instead of just trading, how go to the gym, follow a diet, but then, you know, you're eating McDonald's at
night, you're skipping the gym, and then expect to go on the charts and expect to day. It doesn't work like that. You have to have that shift in your mind to be transfer to your trading. >> And that's why a lot of times in the
We we talk so much about identity um and how big and important it is to know like success doesn't come from a change. It comes from a change of an identity you care more about respecting myself enough to do the things in which I say I'm
trading if you're not disciplined outside the market is the you know the care more about the idea of being successful or actually embracing the the process of bettering myself as an individual improving as an individual
going to the gym you know working on a business working on you know whatever business working on you know whatever that is for you um I it's doing the hard the shoulders and get comfortable with it. anybody who might be struggling when
starting to get payouts like you know what what is the biggest piece of advice >> Biggest piece of advice honestly like as cliche as this sounds don't give up. I lost thousands of dollars on funded accounts before you know I started
know how hard it could be on your mental health you know just losing repeatedly and having to sit there and just want to be making that money back. But you just have to allow yourself to want the process more than the progress. You
know, you need to focus on building yourself as a trader than focusing on the money. And I know it's hard and it sounds counterintuitive, but you just your rules, taking those A+ setups, and just not focusing on the money. The
moment you stop focusing on the money is when you'll see the best improvement. enough. As hard as it sounds, >> I 100% agree. like the times in which I versus, you know, struggling the most. A lot of the times when when I struggle
in the last 5 years, a lot of the times the when I'm struggling, it's almost like I'm I'm I I I care so much that it feels like I'm forcing it. I'm I'm con constantly trying to prove to myself that I can be profitable. I'm proving to
myself that I know my edge. And when you simply submit and you treat it like that's a big part of it as well, where a lot of the times you you care so much And you know, we always talk about this in the community, but trading is such a
is any other thing. Like, if you go to the gym, it's a brute force type of you you you get in as much as you can. With trading, you know, work could be knowing that that is a part of improving. That is a part of growing.
And, you know, life and school and all of our experiences in our life has told work hard to be successful. You need to do this to be successful. And in because they're like, I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel. I feel like I keep
pushing forward and I'm not getting anywhere. And it's it's really a like it's a paradoxical kind of thing to, you know, the idea of submission like you said. And like we've covered, you you it feels effortless when success is is
seeing it. You're reacting to it. You don't need to take a trade. You don't opportunity is there. You submit to it and you react to it. Um and you just let don't fear of losing. You don't fear of winning. and you just, you know, kind of
>> I mean, like you for example, you sat in front of the markets almost all day, especially, you know, with your afternoon live and everyone in the chat a trade? Are you going to take a trade? Bro, market isn't doing anything. It's
to do? Just answer just cuz like people don't know how to just be patient and also don't know what they're looking for, right? It's like and a lot of the love about like our mentorship is like I feel like the people that join are like
normal because all of social media is like trade trade trade it's the coolest all this stuff where it's like no let's get to the like down into the what this actually is and it's like you know you you you were on our call
literally an hour ago like talking about the ideas of you know it's so easy for us to just fall into this mindset of like I keep making these same mistakes wrong with me. I don't know what this is. And it's a sign to me that you care
so much. And it's it's a good thing and and it's a bad thing at the same time. like it all has to do with heart posture. And what I mean by heart posture is when your heart is resting on the idea of money, you will always feel
like you're on a hamster wheel. You're always battling. If your heart posture is to be humble and improve and want to learn and want to grow and want to react equation, you'll end up attracting it all to you. Um, and it's such a weird,
you know, thing because nothing else in in life is very, you know, similar to the only thing that I would say is similar to trading is like building a relationship with God. Like the idea of submission and knowing like I don't know
everything, you know, if and it's just like life. If I try to force my will and into a brick wall into a brick wall, I I [snorts] know that it's most of the time not not not the right way in which to go about it. But sometimes I find myself in
opens up, the right people come into my life and and and it's and it's not by trying to find those things. It comes with improving as a person, seeking and that I said on live today, I don't know if you heard, is like to go three steps
And >> and when you go deep is when you can and really ask myself like, you know, why do I want to change? You know, why do I want to make money? What who who do I need to be to be able to accomplish
have goals, but they're not the person to accomplish it. And you have to care more about becoming the person to accomplish it than it is, you know, broad term. I mean, going off of that, I remember I was talking to you uh in
another one of our sessions how, yeah, I got the nice car, but that's not at the end of the day what made me happy. What really made me happy was uh building myself as the person to be able to afford a car like that from trading.
Trading is a you versus you. You have to master yourself as a human to be able to could have the nice car. You know, making all this money is fun and cool, but at the end of the day, you know, what's really going to make you happy is
and your emotions and your discipline and that's the most important thing in life. You know, just leveling up as a human in general, getting closer to God, everything. Just >> mastering yourself over just thinking
materialistic things. >> Yeah. Exactly. And and and you know, we always say, you know, the the the famous quote, the man who loves the the the loves the destination. And everybody in trading will always say, "Focus on the
focus on money." The hard thing that a people that people don't understand people that people don't understand about that idea is it's not necessarily about you necessarily like focusing on, okay, my rules, my rules, but in your
heart being disconnected from money. Like you can try to convince yourself your heart believes. If your heart is cares more about materialism, it cares control you. And that's why you overtrade. That's why you do this
You're not controlling the other way around. The only way that you're in disconnected. It doesn't even give value to you. You know, it's not going to the freedom lies is in it. And that's where you start actually enjoying the
day, not caring if you make money or not, but pushing the ball forward, the hard things, doing the things in which you say you're going to do. That where it feels effortless because it
reward for doing something you're already enjoying to do. >> Exactly. That also, you know, as treating it as a profession and but What I used to do when I was unprofitable and I know a lot of people
are the same way. You know, wake up 5 minutes right before market opens. You minutes right before market opens. You expect to just roll out of bed and know and have the level to read the markets. This isn't a video game, you know. You
don't just get on and it's like, "Oh, let's do it." You have to mentally be prepared to have a clear mind and know that if you have to just sit there for an hour doing nothing, you know, you're not just going to fall back to sleep,
like stuff like that. Like, you have to have like a routine. I wouldn't say like a routine, but you know, just be up before market open. You know, have a coffee, you know, have some pre-market analysis. You know, treat it like a job.
Of course, you know, trading isn't, you know, you're not getting bossed around. You know, you're your own boss. But have a little routine and just, you know, it's not it's not a game. It's a life-changing opportunity. And for us to
insane. >> What does your morning routine look like? How of how early do you wake up? >> I'm Eastern time, so market opens at 9:30. I'm usually up just an hour before, like 8:30. I usually wake up. I
get up. What I've been doing a lot recently which has helped me is I just you know, get some fresh air, you know, actually wake up, throw some water on my face and just hop on the charts, you know, around 9 30 minutes, you know,
watch a YouTube video, just chill, relax, coffee, and then just wait for 9:30. This that simple, you know. I'm not doing no Ashen Hall 5 am ice water, you know, just wake up an hour before, have a coffee, and just, you know, don't
Oh, we're bullish, you know. >> Yeah. So, I want to I want to kind of transition because I I I'm very curious as well when it comes to prop firms specifically. >> Um, what is your experience with prop
firms? Obviously getting payouts. What prop firms do you use? What do you recommend for people to use and and why? started off with Apex and I'm pretty sure a lot of people have, you know, those 90% off sales are juicy. You know,
you see [laughter] you see, oh, $10, 50k, $30, 150, you know, and it and it they're making millions of dollars. And there's a reason for that. That unrealized trailing. That's probably one of the most mentally draining and
hardest rule to overcome. So, honestly, right now, I'm only using top step. I feel like it's the best. Um, I don't really know much about alpha. You know, I've been getting a lot of uh recommendations for it, but right now
don't have the unrealized trailing. You know, you could be in a trade and it don't blow your account. That's such a dumb rule. So, yeah. Uh, topep and yeah, that's pretty much it. I've gotten top step and apex payouts, you know, but
Apex is a lot harder. >> Are you pretty aggressive with your eval it past. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I could go over mentorship. >> Yeah. Yeah. Let's hear it.
>> Um yeah, so if I was starting fresh, what I do is I buy my evals and for top what I do is I buy my evals and for top step uh you know 50ks are $50, 150s are step uh you know 50ks are $50, 150s are $150. There's no reason in my eyes to
buy the 150s because at the end of the day once you build the buffer, it's the exact same. So just save $100 on the five accounts. you know, save your couple hundred bucks and just buy the 50Ks. So, I buy the 50Ks
and it's easier for me to say because, you know, I've had previous payouts, but I buy the five accounts and I trade them super aggressively. Like, I'm either in two days. >> And I just repeat before I pass these
accounts. >> But at the end of the day, you got to >> But at the end of the day, you got to look at uh prop firms as a like lost a couple hundred dollars, but one payout pays for 500 accounts. It's It's
>> You almost have to think of the opportunity as a trade in in itself. >> Yeah. Literally, you have the 50% rule. I'll trade one to two minis, take enter, next day. >> What is What is the max profit for the
day when you're trading? >> On 50ks, it's uh 1,500. that's pretty easy. You know, 30 40 day or obviously it depends on what the chart is showing and what happens if you
>> Okay. Okay. So that's only for evals. On evals I'll like trade for that. You know if I get close I won't, you know, try getting the max every day. If I'm like at 1,200, you know, I'll call it a day. But now when I get funded, it's a
completely different story. You know, you want to derisk, you know, slow it down. And yeah, I usually do either five micros to start off. You start off five micros, build the buffer. Once you build the buffer, up it to one. And usually
been trading one mini. There's no reason to go more. You know, with one mini, you with good setups. >> And especially like people got to know, thinks like, oh, 10 accounts max size, but it's like you have five
going to print. >> Yeah, bro. Like thinking about it, if account, you're trading five minis. I don't think people understand like the might not seem like it when you're trading them on separate accounts, but
if you were to enter five cons on one account, you will see how fast that P&L about, honestly. >> Yeah. >> when it comes to to funded accounts, like what is your goal within getting
getting like a payout? Is it normally like it's kind of whenever you decide you want to take out or let's say you know you you get to a point in which you can take off cuz what is it for top 50k like you need like maybe 3k in profit to
>> with topsup actually there's no requirement for an amount all you need is your five winning days. >> So if you really wanted to you know you can make well they actually lowered it to $150. So, you could get your $550
days and request half of that. But, of course, you'll have no buffer. Like, you'll literally have basically any draw down left. So, what I like to do is when I first got my payouts, um, and you know, I needed the money to recoup some
of those some of those losses. Um, I just built the buffer and then doubled just built the buffer and then doubled it. So with um top step, what there's it. So with um top step, what there's it's a 2K um draw down. So I made the 2K
draw down and then I just doubled it. So I went to 4K. Once I got the 4K draw I went to 4K. Once I got the 4K draw down, I withdraw 2K and then left 2K and then I ran it up to just start getting the max payouts cuz I'm at the point now
where it's like I want to try milking. Yeah, exactly. I'm going start getting posted on the on the Instagram. [laughter] So, just get them to 10K, withdraw five. You have 5K draw down
left. Repeat, get back to 10, withdraw 10K, withdraw. >> Yeah. Yeah, dude. All right. I got I got one last uh question for you and then I'd love for you to, you know, give any any last advice. But when it comes to
were to look back at, you know, your your journey from from start to to finish, what what do you think was the most, you know, the most pivotal point? you know, what is that aha moment? My answer is there kind of isn't really an
perspective. And if there is that that pivotal point, what do you think that >> I I really have to agree with you. Like there's no, oh, this day I became profitable, you know? It's just like really realizing like I said earlier
like you can't focus on the money. You have to focus on just following your rules, you know, sticking to your trading plan, journaling, you know, do knows what they need to do. They just don't do it. Cuz when I was
unprofitable, you would preach all the time, you know, journal, follow your rules, do this, do that. And I'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I'll come in and trade no news Mondays and I'm blowing up my account and I'm and I'm
>> Yeah. >> Uh and that's that's like another thing that I could preach a lot. A lot of people would be profitable if they don't take those unnecessary losses. >> Like I said, um trading Asia journaling
thing was no news Mondays, you know, but a lot of people aren't like that, you work for us doesn't mean it won't work journaling is important because you >> Exactly. Exactly. That's why journaling
always comes down to figuring out what your mistakes are, what your best parts are, cuz something that won't work for me could be, you know, what would lead >> All right. I do got one more question actually. How much obviously from being,
community, how much do you think that was a part of of your success and like boosting you forward, >> bro? Oh my goodness. Like I can't even stress it enough like the mentorship I mean that's that's really what changed
trading for me you know being in a mentorship where you know it's not just oh take this trade but more of like why you took it you know why you're not you're sitting there doing nothing you know and then having that community of
people to you know talk with you know who have the same goals who are trying to become profitable just being in there I've made some like pretty good friends in the mentor mentorship. You know, we DM here and there. Andre, me and him are
send me a picture. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh he's coming down to Miami and we're going to meet up and just being in that environment of like-minded people and you know, having you to guide us, bro. Like,
recommend our mentorship to people that are kind of looking for for extra help >> For sure. If you need someone to like guide you in a sense of like I wouldn't say babysit you, but you know, tell you what's right from wrong and you need
recommend it. You know, it's not just about, oh, I know the strategy. I don't need to join. You know, that's not what the mentorship's about. It's about, you know, leveling up as a person. Um, and just being around, you know, a group of
>> Yeah. Yeah. All right. Last question for you. If you have, you know, one thing to know, what what what piece of advice or what what do you have to say? >> Again, don't give up. Trading is a very hard journey. Um, I know you could feel
like quitting sometimes. You know, don't if I could do it, you could do it. I'm a young kid who graduated high school 3 years ago, just seeing how trading has that end goal. And I promise you, I could guarantee it. If you guys just
keep going and do what you're supposed to do, you'll make it and we'll all get to that end goal of becoming profitable. That's pretty much it, you know. Don't >> Don't give up. Well, bro, I appreciate you taking the time and and hopping on
conversation. I know we'll we'll probably continue to keep talking with run it up, bro, and see you see you and get to the the next level and then the >> Yeah. >> All righty. Well, hopefully you guys
socials, too? I'll link them. I'll link them in the description as well. >> Uh, yeah, I could send them to you, but um on Tik Tok and IG, it's just Nate >> Perfect. I'll link them in the description. Gotcha.
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