[0:00] Welcome back to New Rockstars. I'm Eric
[0:01] Boss and this is going to be a reaction
[0:03] to the new trailer for Spider-Man Brand
[0:05] New Day. We are live here on the New
[0:07] Rockstars channel dealing with all the
[0:09] fun stuff that live streams bring. And
[0:11] I'm going to watch this trailer for the
[0:13] first time. I have not seen it yet. All
[0:15] I've seen are these crazy one second
[0:17] clips that kept coming out all
[0:19] throughout the day on Tuesday. What a
[0:20] weird thing that Sony did. But the
[0:22] trailer is now here. I'm hearing good
[0:24] things about it. I'm going to watch it
[0:26] now. I'm going to go through my general
[0:28] thoughts. I'm going to try my best to
[0:29] take your questions to it. Uh, and then
[0:31] I'm going to spend the rest of this
[0:32] workday going through it frame by frame
[0:34] for like eight hours to try to find
[0:36] everything because I think you really do
[0:37] need to spend that much time with a
[0:39] trailer like these Marvel trailers to
[0:41] find everything in it. And then that
[0:42] proper in-depth analysis and breakdown
[0:44] is going to be coming out on the New
[0:45] Rockstars channel tomorrow that's going
[0:47] to have all the Easter eggs in it. Today
[0:48] we're just going to go through your
[0:50] biggest questions and I'm going to watch
[0:52] through this once. I think I've delayed
[0:54] it enough. All
[0:56] right. Three, two, one. Let's go.
[1:09] >> Oh, Peter's watching their first day at
[1:11] MIT and he can't enjoy it. That's so
[1:16] cruel. Our poor boy.
[1:24] Oh, music. We're definitely silencing
[1:26] this out.
[1:29] >> You don't remember me, but we used to
[1:31] know each other.
[1:34] >> Oh, laundry day.
[1:37] >> Okay. Daredevil spoiler maybe, cuz
[1:40] that's Sheila Rivera.
[1:47] >> Whoa. Whoa.
[1:50] You just hit me with a
[1:58] >> Whoa.
[2:02] >> Go home.
[2:06] >> Peter Parker's heart.
[2:12] >> What is happening?
[2:13] >> That looked like Ezra Bridger there
[2:14] macking on MJ.
[2:20] I sense a new Rockstar's thumbnail
[2:22] somewhere in that shot.
[2:28] >> Yay.
[2:31] >> Oh man.
[2:37] >> Did I hear the M word? DNA is mutating.
[2:41] >> Now he said mutate, which is different
[2:43] from mutant. Wait, that was sad sink.
[2:50] Whoa. What?
[2:55] >> Whoa.
[2:58] >> Okay.
[3:02] >> This looks beautiful.
[3:14] >> Whoa, the hand.
[3:17] Whoa.
[3:30] [laughter]
[3:32] >> Oh, wow. Uh, this trailer looks
[3:36] stunning. It looks so good, guys. Um,
[3:40] and uh, if I I just like I don't know
[3:43] why I'm surprised that Destin Daniel
[3:45] [ __ ] could make something that looks
[3:47] this beautiful. I mean, just these
[3:48] opening shots of like Peter being
[3:51] inverted like this is the most like the
[3:55] Into the Spider-Verse, across the
[3:56] Spider-Verse type imagery that um, Tom
[3:58] Holland, Peter Parker has ever looked in
[4:00] live action. Um,
[4:04] so many takeaways we can get from uh,
[4:07] the Sadie sink of it all. the fact that
[4:09] she really does seem to be Jean Gray if
[4:12] you ask me. I mean, uh, okay, we're
[4:14] going to get into all of this. Um,
[4:16] before we get into this discussion, the
[4:18] shirt that I'm wearing is our who's who
[4:21] shirt that is, uh, the three, uh, Marvel
[4:24] heroes that are going to be big in this,
[4:28] uh, in this movie. You understand the
[4:30] meme. This shirt's available exclusively
[4:33] at our merch store, nerdriot.shot,
[4:35] baby. Uh, it's like really the best way
[4:38] you can support what we're doing here at
[4:39] New Rockstars.
[4:41] Um, I want to take some of the comments
[4:43] that I've seen come through, flying
[4:47] through. Um,
[4:50] oh, immediate regret. Uh, immediate
[4:53] regret. Uh, guys, uh, the fact that like
[4:56] all of you are joining me. Um, this is,
[5:01] uh, just so cool to be able to be here
[5:03] liveing with you. Uh, let's see. cryptic
[5:05] UK saying, "Has he been poisoned? Evolve
[5:07] or die story?" Yeah, I don't know if
[5:09] he's been poisoned or if this is just
[5:10] some kind of like natural rebirth that
[5:12] like the voice of Marvin Jones the third
[5:14] as tombstone is suggesting he's going
[5:15] through that this is just some kind of
[5:17] natural life cycle that like he was
[5:19] always destined to happen. Or I I have a
[5:22] kind of a a hairbrain theory that like
[5:24] with the oncoming events of Doomsday and
[5:26] Secret Wars, this is a natural evolution
[5:28] brought on by the arachno frequency that
[5:30] was triggered by his connection with his
[5:32] brothers in the last movie. This isn't
[5:34] just like a reset of a of a trilogy.
[5:36] This is like the fourth movie in a
[5:38] series that is going to deal with the
[5:40] impact of what happened in Spider-Man No
[5:42] Way Home. Not just the memory wipe
[5:43] spell, but the fact that the memory wipe
[5:45] spell is so big in this trailer, right?
[5:48] They're not just like brushing
[5:49] everything that happened in No Way Home
[5:51] under the rug. They're dealing with the
[5:52] direct impact of like that memory wife
[5:54] spell and how it affected not just MJ
[5:56] and Ned but also like other Avengers in
[5:58] this universe specifically
[6:01] um uh Bruce Banner. Peter's now at
[6:03] Empire State University and and I think
[6:06] like everything that happened is like
[6:09] still weighing on Peter Parker both on
[6:11] his mind and his physiology.
[6:13] Uh, so I hearing the rumors that this
[6:16] was going to be dealing with like Peter
[6:18] having organic webbing, maybe cocooning
[6:20] into a man spider form. I I'll be
[6:22] honest, I didn't dig that. I I didn't
[6:24] really know what to make of all that.
[6:26] Um, so but now watching this, I get it.
[6:29] Like I I feel like I get what they're
[6:31] trying to do. Um, so let's talk about
[6:36] the Sadie Sync element of this movie. So
[6:40] here's one new shot. A lot of you guys
[6:43] were saying, "Oh, it's just a leaked
[6:44] trailer." There's a lot of news shots in
[6:46] this that like from what I understand,
[6:48] we're not in a leaked trailer. Uh, so
[6:51] Sadie Sink is playing this character
[6:53] wearing kind of a green outfit in this
[6:55] shot in what kind of looks like Batman's
[6:58] lair in the Dark Knight, this kind of um
[7:02] sensory deprived room where they try to
[7:04] give her a nice comfortable office
[7:06] dormatory space that they have to put
[7:08] this kind of shielding around. Notice
[7:11] not just like the wooden paneling, but
[7:13] like whatever these things are. These
[7:16] things look like kind of the the
[7:19] repulsor technology from the Stark Tech
[7:22] drones that are used to just zap whoever
[7:25] this is the moment she gets out of line
[7:27] or just stun her. Uh the hedgehogs from
[7:30] Stranger Things final season. Um we
[7:33] don't see Satie Sing's face. We don't
[7:35] even hear her voice. Um,
[7:38] so, uh, a question that people are
[7:43] having, sorry I might have missed it.
[7:45] Someone asking specifically if it is
[7:49] screw ball. I believe I saw a super chat
[7:52] from
[7:55] um,
[7:57] someone saying it's screw ball.
[8:00] Real quick, I just want to make sure I
[8:02] shout you out.
[8:06] Uh, Blizzard, Blizzards, thank you for
[8:09] your super chat saying manifesting that
[8:11] Satie is playing screw ball. Um, also
[8:15] Alfie in thank you for your super chat
[8:16] saying, "Do we think we get uh Jean Gray
[8:18] or Maline Prior?" Uh, yeah, all all
[8:22] valid questions. Um, sorry I wasn't able
[8:25] to feature yours on screen here like I'm
[8:26] going to do with you, Dan Smith saying,
[8:28] "Been a huge friend for years.
[8:29] Appreciate everything you do and the
[8:30] team do." Thank you so much. Um, I don't
[8:34] think it is Meline Prior and I don't
[8:36] think it's Screwball. So, just to kind
[8:37] of explain who Screwball is. Screwball
[8:40] is like a social media influencer
[8:42] villain to Peter Parker who was brought
[8:44] about in like 2008, close to the brand
[8:46] new day era. If if Satie Sync was
[8:48] Screwball, I don't know why they would
[8:49] bring back Screwball for Secret Wars.
[8:51] That's kind of my my question with that.
[8:54] I think she's got to be a bigger
[8:55] character than that. And the reason I
[8:57] think that she is Gan Gray is
[8:58] specifically this sequence here where
[9:00] there is a random woman who seems to be
[9:03] possessed by some other kind of
[9:05] consciousness who smiles when she sees
[9:08] Spider-Man and then that consciousness
[9:09] jumps into this random soldier and then
[9:11] Peter looks over here and that
[9:13] consciousness randomly jumps up to this
[9:14] guy up here. Who is that? Trema?
[9:19] No, it could just be another guy. So,
[9:20] it's we're talking about a consciousness
[9:23] body hopper. And there's not many people
[9:26] in the Marvel world who have a power set
[9:27] like that other than kind of a psionic
[9:30] mutant like either Professor Charles
[9:32] Xavier or or Gan Gray. Um, also just the
[9:36] shots of her fists clenching when she's
[9:38] in this containment. Doesn't it look
[9:39] like she kind of has some kind of
[9:41] Phoenix Force ability? Now, again, I
[9:43] don't know if like
[9:45] it's her fists that are causing this
[9:47] explosion. It could just be a match cut
[9:49] of some kind, but if they need to keep
[9:52] her under containment that way, you
[9:53] don't keep screw ball under containment
[9:55] like this. That's all I'm saying. I had
[9:58] a whole theory uh last week on why would
[10:01] you introduce Gan Gray right now in the
[10:04] MCU? I get it. It's weird. We're about
[10:06] to have Doomsday. We're about to have
[10:07] Secret Wars. If you're going to have a
[10:09] mutant saga after that, why why do you
[10:11] need Gan Gray in this street level
[10:13] Spider-Man story? My theory was that,
[10:15] well, we do want to use this
[10:17] high-profile Spider-Man movie to set up
[10:18] the mutant saga, right? That's an
[10:20] important thing. Um, and if you're going
[10:24] to do that, you do kind of need to see
[10:27] someone who matters to that next era.
[10:30] But you set her up now in order to
[10:32] supercharge her into the Phoenix Force
[10:34] in Secret Wars. You burn out that star
[10:37] power in Secret Wars. you deplete her so
[10:40] that she ends the Secret Wars conflict
[10:41] in whatever the new restored MCU is
[10:44] after that as just Gan Gray, young Gan
[10:46] Gray stepping into the mutant academy of
[10:48] the X-Mansion with other mutants of her
[10:52] age group. Scott Summers, Hank McCoy,
[10:56] Warren Worthington III, Bobby Drake,
[10:58] maybe even Camala Khan, uh, Billy
[11:01] Maximoff, these other mutants who can
[11:03] just kind of join this new class of
[11:04] mutants. And the Phoenix element of her
[11:08] life is behind her. So then she can just
[11:11] forge her own destiny without having to
[11:13] like set up this awkward Dark Phoenix
[11:16] saga, which was the mistake that was
[11:19] made with Gan Gray in the past eras.
[11:21] Marvel girl Gan Gray is interesting in
[11:24] her own right and that's something that
[11:25] they could explore in the mutant saga
[11:26] and I think I think Sadie Sync would be
[11:28] perfect for um talking about the what's
[11:32] going on with Peter Sticky Peter thank
[11:35] you for your super chat Sora saying are
[11:37] we going to get four arms Peter
[11:39] referring to Manspider there was a lot
[11:41] of theories and speculation that that's
[11:43] what we're going to see in this movie
[11:44] that uh man spider is like the weird
[11:48] physical formation while I think that
[11:50] maybe in concept art and that maybe a
[11:52] form Peter takes at some point in the
[11:54] movie. I don't think that's what it's
[11:55] all setting up. I don't think that's
[11:56] where it's all going. I think the idea
[11:59] is that his body is now going through
[12:01] some kind of physical adaptations. You
[12:03] could even call it evolution, but
[12:04] evolution requires multiple generations
[12:06] of a species over like millennia. This
[12:09] is more of an adaptation. This life
[12:10] cycle that this voice that we hear
[12:12] throughout the trailer, this voice, it's
[12:14] it's not Tal Tman. Tremal Toman has a
[12:16] different register of his voice. I'm
[12:18] pretty sure this is the voice of Marvin
[12:19] Jones III who's playing Tombstone. Weird
[12:22] that you would feature his voice
[12:23] throughout the trailer without like
[12:25] showing his character or or establishing
[12:27] why he's so important to Peter Parker in
[12:28] the story. Um, we don't know who the
[12:30] real villain of the story is. If it's
[12:32] just Trel Tilman as this government
[12:34] authority who is hunting down Satie
[12:36] Sink's character or if it's just like a
[12:38] a combination of a lot of these
[12:39] characters. But I think the key word in
[12:41] this is mutate. The fact that it comes
[12:44] from our resident scientist Bruce Banner
[12:46] specifically in this trailer um saying
[12:50] the word mutate in the trailer is not an
[12:52] accident. Like guys, I'm telling you
[12:55] like and and they say mutate. They're
[12:57] not going to say that Peter Parker is a
[12:58] mutant a n cuz I think obviously that's
[13:02] that's not exactly what Peter Parker is.
[13:04] But in the pages of the Marvel comics, a
[13:06] lot of people have an understanding that
[13:08] like Peter Parker while we is not a born
[13:10] mutant with an exgene. He does have this
[13:13] mutate at quality that um likens him
[13:17] with the mutants. Specifically during
[13:19] House of M when Wanda Maximoff creates
[13:22] that alternate universe, he is
[13:24] considered with the upper class of
[13:26] whatever the superenhanced people are,
[13:28] which is mostly mutants in that world.
[13:30] So he's not a mutant, but I think
[13:32] they're going to use this movie to kind
[13:33] of explain how this works. And uh this
[13:37] theory, this hairbrain theory that I've
[13:38] been referring to is uh is
[13:45] how do the mutations come about? Is this
[13:48] like an adaptation? Um
[13:52] is this something that
[13:55] uh sorry, I just want to make sure it's
[13:57] all good. Um, is this like an adaptation
[13:59] that is brought about by some natural
[14:02] events that all these characters are
[14:04] about to go through? By that I mean the
[14:06] incursions of Doomsday and Secret Wars.
[14:09] Um, do certain people with X genes in
[14:12] their genomes have an ability to sense
[14:15] what's about to happen and that is
[14:17] bringing about their mut mutant powers.
[14:20] That could be as valid of a reason as
[14:22] anything else. Like in um in X-Men First
[14:25] Class, they imply that like the nuclear
[14:26] age brought this about. Uh in in the
[14:29] first X-Men film in 2000, I think
[14:31] Charles Xavier says something like this
[14:33] is just a natural course of evolution.
[14:35] There was that line in 2012 Avengers
[14:36] where like Thor mentioned that like
[14:38] Earth signaled by tampering with the
[14:41] tesseract that it was ready for a higher
[14:43] form of war and that's what brought
[14:45] about like the forces of Thanos and Loki
[14:47] and the Chitauri. A similar thing could
[14:49] be established in this movie that like
[14:51] Bruce Banner is saying that characters
[14:52] like Spider-Man and other characters who
[14:54] might have dormant ex genes are just
[14:55] like signaling uh through or just the
[14:58] environment that they're in is telling
[14:59] them like hey you need to be more
[15:01] equipped for what's coming. So
[15:05] hope you're not in the most awkward day
[15:07] of puberty that you're in because you're
[15:09] about to have optic blasts coming out of
[15:11] your eyes or ice powers or this ability
[15:13] to hop your consciousness. And maybe Gan
[15:16] Gray is like the first one of the first
[15:18] people to really have that happen
[15:20] because she has the Phoenix force who is
[15:22] detached from reality who can kind of
[15:24] see all this happening. Camala Khan was
[15:26] able to activate her mutant power
[15:28] specifically because it was a
[15:29] combination of other things through the
[15:31] Bengal from the nor dimension uh nor
[15:33] dimension through her maternal ancestry
[15:36] etc etc. Neymar had the specific events
[15:38] of his mother drinking a version of the
[15:41] Caribbean heart-shaped herb while she
[15:43] was pregnant with him. Um, I I know
[15:47] we're covering a lot of ground here. Um,
[15:51] uh,
[15:53] Jamie, I'm not sure what you mean by
[15:54] your question. Do we think this ends uh
[15:56] with No Way Home not fixed? Like not
[15:59] repaired, the memory wipe not repaired?
[16:01] Yeah, I I don't think they're going to
[16:02] reverse the events of No Way Home. I
[16:04] think they're going to build on those
[16:05] events would be my theory. Um,
[16:10] uh,
[16:14] let's see. I'm I'm seeing a lot of super
[16:16] chats come through. I'm trying to
[16:17] feature as many of them on screen. Um,
[16:20] ah, thanks for joining us, Space
[16:21] Dreamer. How do you know it's Satie Sink
[16:23] in the chair? I just got here. Well, we
[16:26] know it's Satie Sink in the chair. I
[16:27] just think because of her hands. I think
[16:30] those are Sadie Sync's hands. And I
[16:32] think we have seen Satie Sync in a
[16:33] similar kind of jumpsuit uh in set
[16:36] photos, but the reason why a lot of
[16:38] people are confirming it's Sadi Sink is
[16:40] this shot right here. We did see Sadi
[16:42] Sync in this exact attire with the hood
[16:45] with that exact jacket. That's Satie
[16:46] Sync. Now, this is in Peter's apartment,
[16:49] believe it or not. Um that's all of his
[16:50] equipment, his his computer screens, and
[16:52] we know it from the sticky shot. Like
[16:57] she she's in Peter's apartment. So, you
[17:00] could argue that it's like she is kind
[17:02] of triggering this, like she is kind of
[17:04] getting inside of his mind. The official
[17:06] synopsis of this movie is that it's set
[17:08] four years after the events of No Way
[17:09] Home and there's some kind of like
[17:10] street level conflict and and physical
[17:12] changes that Peter Parker is going
[17:13] through. So, the question is, is this
[17:15] like a natural thing that he's going
[17:16] through? Did he make a specific choice
[17:18] to go through this? Was he specifically
[17:20] poisoned? Did Gan Gray or whoever Sadie
[17:22] Sync is playing bring this on? We don't
[17:25] know. Uh, we're going to figure it out.
[17:29] Sorry, I'm trying to see other specific
[17:34] comments. Um,
[17:37] okay. We have uh Melo Phantom, thank you
[17:40] for your super chat saying, "Could the
[17:41] scanner used on Peter be a possible
[17:43] future piece of sentinel tech used to
[17:45] identify mutants?" Oh, I hope not
[17:48] because then it's like Peter, why would
[17:49] you submit to this? Honestly, I think
[17:51] what that is I'm trying to find the shot
[17:53] you were talking about. Yeah, it's right
[17:55] here. Um, I think that's like Peter or
[17:58] Bruce's own tech. Maybe that's some
[18:00] gamma radiation. Uh, maybe all mutants
[18:03] do give off a kind of gamma radiation
[18:05] just through their uh genetics. Um,
[18:10] uh, I am Oh, here we go.
[18:16] IM1 180 saying, "Where do we think this
[18:18] story falls within the born again story
[18:20] pre, post or durian?" Well, I'm hesitant
[18:23] to spoil it, but I'm pretty sure I'm
[18:25] pretty sure just the producers and the
[18:26] execs at Marvel have said this is
[18:28] definitely taking place after Daredevil
[18:29] Born Again. And there is a shot in this
[18:31] trailer that I I just I mentioned it
[18:33] during my reaction to the stream that
[18:35] I'm pretty sure establishes it and
[18:37] confirms that this is after the events
[18:40] of Daredevil Born Again season 2 or just
[18:42] like Daredevil Born Again season 2 ends
[18:45] in just a very odd way where the city
[18:47] leadership has to be at least pretending
[18:50] to make nice with certain masked
[18:52] vigilantes in the city. But I I know
[18:54] this does take to answer your question
[18:56] does take place after.
[18:58] Uh Drew Bog saying big fan fellow dad.
[19:01] Thank you to the rest of team for giving
[19:03] fellow dad a place. Uh also how many
[19:04] villains again? I think we're up to like
[19:06] four at this point. Breaking down the
[19:07] villains. We got tombstone played by
[19:09] Marvin Jones III. We got Scorpion played
[19:11] by um Michael Mando, Matt Gargan coming
[19:14] back from Homecoming. Uh we have
[19:16] Boomerang. We have Tarantula. We have
[19:18] whoever Sades Sink is. We have whoever
[19:19] Trel Tilman is. Uh and I think those are
[19:22] the villains. And it looks like we have
[19:24] the hand in this. Let's not forget the
[19:25] hand, guys. Uh the ninjas of the hand.
[19:30] Insane. But knowing that Destin Daniel
[19:32] [ __ ] is directing this, like the guy
[19:35] is so good with stunts and just
[19:37] handtohand combat. It looks like there's
[19:39] going to be some kind of prison break.
[19:40] [laughter]
[19:41] I'm I'm so excited. Um another comment,
[19:46] Corey Kendrill. Uh, do you think instead
[19:50] of some person jumping from person to
[19:51] person, it could be more about a spider
[19:52] life cycle like where some spiders have
[19:54] some form of hypnotosis
[19:57] where they manipulate their prey? I
[19:59] wasn't aware that spiders have that
[20:00] ability. Um, it doesn't look like
[20:02] something that Peter is in control of
[20:04] here. like un unless it's something
[20:06] acting outside of his abilities. I I it
[20:11] it doesn't seem like Peter it seems like
[20:13] someone else is doing this because based
[20:15] on the context of the trailer at least
[20:16] Trel Tilman is saying that this is some
[20:18] other entity that he can't even see. Uh
[20:21] yeah, good question. Does Bruce have the
[20:24] device on his arm? He does. He has that
[20:25] inhibitor device when Peter visits him
[20:27] at Empire State. I believe you can see
[20:29] it here. Yeah, right there. He has uh
[20:32] you can see a hint of the green glow.
[20:33] That's what he had in the Shan Chi
[20:35] postredit scene and in She-Hulk before
[20:37] he got ruptured in She-Hulk. Uh, that's
[20:38] what restores him into human form. Uh,
[20:42] Rogue Canadian saying, "Is this mutation
[20:43] allowing him to have web shooters like
[20:45] the Toby era?" I think that's what this
[20:47] movie is saying, guys. This is wild to
[20:49] me that like Peter will have some
[20:51] organic webbing in this movie. Um,
[20:55] that Yeah, there's that cocoon that
[20:57] everyone was talking about. Yeah,
[20:59] Peter's going to have some organic
[21:00] webbing. I don't know if it's going to
[21:02] be exactly the way it worked like in the
[21:03] Toby era. There's a specific shot where
[21:05] like he sw I'm trying to find it. It was
[21:08] in the clips yesterday. Can't really
[21:10] find it. U but yes, I do think that's
[21:13] they're saying this is going to be a
[21:14] natural evolution. And I do think it was
[21:16] like an evolution that his arachno
[21:17] frequency learned from working with his
[21:19] brothers in the last movie. So much
[21:22] about his suit, so much of what he's
[21:23] going through. It's not just member
[21:24] berries to remind us of these past
[21:26] movies of Andrew Garfield and Tobey
[21:28] Magcguire. I think it's literally the
[21:30] bio- rhythms of his body that is taking
[21:32] him back through these steps of like
[21:34] having these brothers for the first
[21:36] time, these adaptation skills. The
[21:38] arachno frequency is a kind of magic
[21:39] folks that reverberates through the
[21:41] multiverse. And I think being exposed to
[21:44] those brothers taught his instincts on
[21:47] new ways that his body can adapt to his
[21:50] surroundings. And I think that is what
[21:52] we're seeing. That's a kind of
[21:53] evolution. And I don't think it means
[21:55] that Peter Parker has an exgene. I guess
[21:57] a question I have for you all, if Marvel
[21:59] Studios establishes that Peter Parker is
[22:00] a mutant, and if people over at Sony,
[22:02] Tom Rothman, are like, "Yeah, okay with
[22:04] us." Is that going to feel sacrilege to
[22:06] you? Is that going to if they use the
[22:08] M-word, if they label him as having an
[22:10] exgene, is that just going to be a step
[22:11] too far? Because I think in the years
[22:14] ahead there's going to be a lot of
[22:16] characters where who were not
[22:18] technically mutants entics
[22:22] that Marvel Studios may just be like hey
[22:24] we're going to kamalicon this and just
[22:25] say that they have that status just so
[22:27] that everyone can be part of the mutant
[22:28] saga. Uh Robert asking is this all
[22:31] setting up for doomsday? I don't know if
[22:32] doomsday but I do think secret wars in
[22:34] the mutant saga thereafter.
[22:37] Um, the meme father, thank you for your
[22:40] super chat. Say maybe we could get a
[22:41] mention or reference to the spiderverse
[22:43] or web of life. Yeah, that's what I'm
[22:45] kind of saying. I don't know. I I don't
[22:46] know if they're going to say the web of
[22:47] life in Destiny or the Spider-Verse. I
[22:49] don't think this will be a multiverse
[22:50] story, but I do think Peter's going to
[22:52] mention having those other guys from
[22:54] other worlds who just like impacted him.
[22:58] Um, let's see. What are the shots
[22:59] signifying at 208? Are they shots in the
[23:01] montage? Like moving photography? Oh, I
[23:03] think I know what you're talking about.
[23:05] Yeah. So, I think this is going to be
[23:06] part of a sequence. This is something we
[23:08] talked about yesterday. Obviously,
[23:10] recreating Amazing Fantasy 15 from 1963,
[23:12] these kind of slow motion shots. A lot
[23:14] of people think the haze and the smoke
[23:16] and the overcastness of New York City
[23:17] means that this is set during the events
[23:19] of the Thunderbolts final battle and
[23:20] that this is where we're going to see
[23:21] Florence Pew and that Peter Parker is
[23:23] going to be affected by what the Void
[23:25] Century did and sent back to his most
[23:26] traumatic shameful memory, which could
[23:28] include the death of Aunt May, the death
[23:30] of Tony Stark, maybe even the death of
[23:32] uh Uncle Ben. Uh, I don't know about
[23:34] that, but I do think the this is like
[23:37] based off of my experience, the kind of
[23:38] stuff that often does not show up in the
[23:40] movie at all. All right. I do think
[23:43] characters Oh, look at look at his
[23:45] boots. Oh, man. So, yeah, seeing
[23:47] tarantula and boomerang in these shots
[23:49] is very fun. Seeing the hand in these
[23:51] shots, uh, I do think we are going to
[23:53] see this prison break sequence with the
[23:54] hand. Whatever is going on here.
[23:59] Um,
[24:01] sorry I didn't get to the Sooner Hatchet
[24:03] film saying I get that, but I uh would
[24:04] rather have a mutant that would has
[24:05] something with Spidey because Gene and
[24:07] Spidey, as far as I know, has nothing to
[24:08] do with Spidey. Not nothing to do with
[24:10] Spidey, but I get it. Not as much to do
[24:13] with Spidey as someone like Screwball
[24:14] does. But I do think as much as
[24:16] Spider-Man is kind of a pivotal central
[24:18] character to the full Marvel world, you
[24:20] could argue that any major Marvel
[24:22] character has some connection to
[24:23] Spider-Man. He's just crossed over with
[24:25] so many of them uh so many times. Uh
[24:28] meme father, thank you for this other
[24:30] super chat saying a gene gray
[24:31] introduction would be interesting. Yeah.
[24:33] Um
[24:34] yeah, thank you for uh your
[24:36] contribution. Divian saying I love your
[24:39] work. Been following since day one. What
[24:41] do you think about the man spider arc? I
[24:42] don't think man spider is going to be a
[24:43] big part of this. A lot of my thinking
[24:45] is if a character shows up in um in
[24:49] Spider Noir coming to Prime Video and
[24:52] MGM Plus in May, I don't think they're
[24:55] going to be that big or that involved in
[24:58] the plot of Brand New Day. So that
[24:59] includes like Electro Sandman, Mr.
[25:01] Negative. I think those I I I mean Sony
[25:04] is kind of looking at both of these and
[25:06] I just don't think you would have two
[25:07] different versions that are like
[25:09] in different screens that Sony is trying
[25:12] to get us to watch around the same time
[25:14] in the same summer.
[25:16] Um agreed Cameron Craraven saying that
[25:19] the swinging around on the roof is
[25:20] beautiful. It is just stunning. like
[25:23] these shots. I might be wrong, but I
[25:26] think we haven't seen Tom Holland suited
[25:28] up as Peter Parker on a rooftop uh in
[25:31] live action like this, like on top of a
[25:34] roof, suiting up and then going into his
[25:36] action. Like, we've seen him like
[25:38] swinging around from scaffolding and
[25:40] stuff like that, but just like the
[25:41] skyigh Peter Parker here, uh it just
[25:44] feels so right. It feels like he's he
[25:47] really is taking the best of all the
[25:48] worlds of the Andrew Garfield in the the
[25:50] Toby Magguire version. Um
[25:54] Hunter saying, "Oh, look at where he's
[25:56] looking hanging from the cocoon shot.
[25:57] He's getting 100% getting organic
[25:59] webbing." Yeah, I think I think I agree,
[26:01] man. I think like the the fact that he
[26:04] just woke up in this cocoon and doesn't
[26:06] seem to remember how he got there and he
[26:07] can't initially and he tries to do it
[26:10] here like naturally without his web
[26:11] shooters. Like something's going on
[26:13] there. Uh, Rogue in the restaurant he
[26:17] face plants on.
[26:19] Maybe you're talking about the bus
[26:20] later.
[26:24] I'm trying to see exactly what you're
[26:26] talking about.
[26:29] Yeah, I think that's a bus. Um,
[26:33] oh, I hear was with a New York Jets
[26:35] shirt. [laughter]
[26:36] Maybe. I see what you're saying with the
[26:38] hair thing. Uh, maybe if if this is how
[26:41] they introduce Rogue, how funny would
[26:43] that be? Uh, I I don't know because
[26:45] here's what I I've noticed. There was a
[26:48] girl wearing like um what we all thought
[26:50] was Gwen Stacy in Endgame, right? Just
[26:51] because she wore a Hot Topic webbing
[26:53] pattern skirt, she could just have very
[26:55] cool hair. Uh but man, if if they
[26:58] introduce Rogue in this movie, too,
[27:01] I won't say no to that. I love that
[27:03] observation.
[27:05] Um
[27:08] Oh, we already talked about that. Um so,
[27:11] Carolyn, thanks for your super chat.
[27:13] Unfortunately, I don't know if if Mr.
[27:15] Negative will be in the movie. I think
[27:17] uh I will say when I started hearing
[27:19] stuff about this movie, I was like,
[27:20] "This sounds like a perfect opportunity
[27:21] to introduce Martin Lee, especially
[27:23] since we saw the Dark Force in Wonderman
[27:25] and he's such a cool looking character.
[27:27] It's like kind of a no-brainer. Put him
[27:29] put him in a movie, Sony. But we are
[27:31] going to see him in Spider Noir." And
[27:34] now that I'm looking at this trailer, I
[27:35] don't know if you need Spider or if you
[27:37] if you need Mr. Negative in this. Um but
[27:41] I I think we would have heard about it.
[27:43] We would have heard about it.
[27:46] R squared online saying, "What if the
[27:48] natural spider mutation is not caused by
[27:50] mental invasion of gene? What if the
[27:51] symptoms we see are effects of an
[27:53] incoming incursion?" Yeah, that I you
[27:55] and I are on the same aractive
[27:57] frequency, man. Like I I really do think
[28:00] it's I don't know if it's Gene who
[28:02] causes it, but it's just kind of a
[28:03] natural adaptation to one's
[28:05] surroundings.
[28:06] Um, speaking of Scorpion, who's on
[28:08] screen here, the meme father saying, "I
[28:10] hope they give Scorpion the mask
[28:11] helmet." Um, his suit's already pretty
[28:14] mechanized here. And Michael Mando is
[28:16] making the most of it.
[28:20] I don't know if he needs the mask. I
[28:22] think the tail really sells it. How do
[28:25] you get this gear is really the
[28:26] question. Like, who's hooking him up
[28:28] with this? How do he get out of prison?
[28:30] Was there some other kind of criminal
[28:31] entity?
[28:33] Was there a a breakout from the DODC to
[28:36] steal a lot of past weaponry that we've
[28:38] seen from either uh Adrien Tomb's crew
[28:40] or Stark Techch to help build this
[28:42] stuff? A lot of questions I have about
[28:44] this saying what's up with Peter's eyes
[28:47] in the prison.
[28:50] Trying to find the moment you're talking
[28:51] about. Oh, here. Yeah. Right. So, I
[28:54] think this is maybe people are saying
[28:55] man spider's coming about, but this is
[28:57] also part of physiological adaptations
[28:59] that he's having. Um,
[29:02] yeah, because it's there's something
[29:04] dark and red and sinister happening in
[29:06] his eyes. But I don't think he's getting
[29:08] it could be this could be like if she is
[29:10] Gan Gray, the phoenix going into his
[29:12] brain and messing with him. Hey, Fit Dad
[29:16] CEO. Hey Dave. Uh, saying, "Did we talk
[29:19] about the sign behind Peter in the
[29:20] beginning?"
[29:22] Trying to see what you're talking about.
[29:26] I've seen a lot of signs throughout
[29:27] Peter throughout it.
[29:30] If it's this one, no credit given. I
[29:31] like the meta quality of like he doesn't
[29:33] get any credit for helping get his
[29:34] friends in MIT.
[29:37] Uh,
[29:38] everyone go follow Fitad CEO on
[29:40] Instagram and other social platforms.
[29:42] He's like one of the nicest, funniest
[29:43] dudes who makes amazing content. Ah,
[29:46] desktop revealed.
[29:50] Uh, Mean Jackal saying with the
[29:52] connection to Spider-Man's evolution.
[29:55] Could it be Shatra, Calypso, or maybe
[29:58] even Spider Queen? They all have some
[29:59] form of mental ability. You're not
[30:00] wrong, mean jackal. I I just think
[30:03] they're going to get a bigger A-lister
[30:05] name if she's going to be coming back in
[30:06] Secret Wars. That's the reason why I
[30:07] keep drumming the the Jean Gray drum.
[30:11] Um
[30:12] Omar saying, "Do you think Daredevil is
[30:15] in that final shot of Spidey versus the
[30:17] hand? Are they just hiding him
[30:18] digitally?" Oh, I love this kind of
[30:20] speculation. Let's take a look.
[30:23] Oh, like this is like when they hid
[30:26] Andrew Garfield Spider-Man when he was
[30:29] kicking the lizard and they painted him
[30:30] out. God, I hope so. This strikes me as
[30:33] another shot of a another trailer shot
[30:35] that just could be not in the movie at
[30:37] all. Um, so where do you think he would
[30:40] be? Here? Do you think he'd be here? Do
[30:43] you think he'd be like over here in the
[30:45] distant background? Would he be down
[30:47] here? No, I think he'd be like jumping
[30:48] with him. Uh, honestly, I hope they
[30:50] painted out Hulk. I hope they painted
[30:52] out Punisher and Daredevil and Shanqi
[30:54] and that there's like five of them.
[30:56] Let's see. Six on this side. So, we need
[30:58] another six on our side. Uh, Miles.
[31:03] Um, Sean McCra saying, "Could all this
[31:06] be side effects of from Venom fusing?" I
[31:08] don't think Venom's going to be a big
[31:09] part of it. Uh, oh, automatic lights
[31:12] came on. Hold on one second. I'm going
[31:13] to turn off the lights because I don't
[31:14] like the overexposure.
[31:23] Guys, the blue dungeon has to be a
[31:25] dungeon. You can't just like have too
[31:28] many lights coming on in the dungeon. It
[31:29] ruins the whole thing. Uh yeah, I don't
[31:32] know if Venom's going to be part of it.
[31:33] I think that was like a Sony thing at
[31:34] the end of No Way Home to set up Venom:
[31:36] The Last Dance. Someone's saying an
[31:38] awful lot of Daredevil references. I
[31:40] mean, yeah, Punisher, the Hand. You're
[31:42] not wrong.
[31:44] Uh oh, I like this theory from you all
[31:47] tricks. Thanks for your super chat. I've
[31:48] seen some people say that they think
[31:50] Brand New Day takes place during
[31:51] Doomsday, but I think Doomsday is too
[31:52] big for Brand new Day to take place at
[31:54] the same time. I think you're right. I
[31:55] think Doomsday is going to be so
[31:56] cataclysmic. There's going to be a big
[31:58] ass planet in the sky. The atmosphere is
[32:01] going to start to evaporate. Hard hard
[32:03] to make this a street level story if
[32:05] they're taking place at the same time.
[32:07] Why poss? Is this going to be a Sinister
[32:09] 6 story or just different villains in
[32:11] different parts of the movie? Will they
[32:12] team up? Yeah, I think anytime you have
[32:13] multiple Spider-Man villains in a movie,
[32:15] people just default to thinking it's
[32:16] Sinister 6. I get I get that thinking. I
[32:19] um I don't know if that's what's going
[32:22] to happen. I think I don't know why Sony
[32:25] could never figure out a Sinister 6
[32:27] movie. At one point, Drew Goddard, the
[32:28] guy who wrote the script for Project
[32:29] Hail Mary and will be, yes, will be
[32:32] directing the next three Matrix films.
[32:34] Those are happening. Was going to be the
[32:36] guy to do a Sinister 6 movie after The
[32:38] Amazing Spider-Man 2014, but there's a
[32:40] lot of reasons why Sony just pivoted
[32:41] away from that, and that's just not
[32:43] happening anymore. Um kind of a bummer.
[32:48] Um, Corey, thank you for your other
[32:50] super chat saying, "I think the organic
[32:53] webbing, it will be organic webbing. I
[32:56] think uh it's stronger." And that's what
[32:58] we see when he slingshots and screams
[32:59] across the building. Yeah, there is
[33:01] another shot where he definitely is
[33:02] wearing the spider suit. I'm going to
[33:04] try to find it for you guys where he
[33:06] totally is slingshotting himself and
[33:10] there are no web shooters. Like maybe
[33:12] even here.
[33:16] No, there's some web shooters there.
[33:22] We talked about this a lot on
[33:24] yesterday's stream, but certainly ah
[33:26] background revealed.
[33:34] Web shooters there, guys. I don't know
[33:35] why this happening, but you know which
[33:36] one I'm talking about. No mask during
[33:39] the ninja fight. Yeah, I guess you're
[33:41] right.
[33:45] Yeah, right here. No mask.
[33:48] Same task. Uh, I guess the hand doesn't
[33:51] really care. I mean, no one knows who
[33:52] Peter Parker is anyway. Uh, Kevin from
[33:55] Superman giving the other theory that I
[33:58] think Gene awakens Peter's ex gene. I
[33:59] won't be mad. I won't be mad either if
[34:01] that is the source. I think it could be
[34:03] a combination of factors. Like Jean
[34:04] could just be kind of this gateway
[34:06] mutant who awakens a lot of other
[34:07] mutates and mutants and other I think
[34:09] Peter Parker is always going to be an
[34:10] anomalistic weirdo who just got his
[34:12] powers through this kind of like weird
[34:14] accident of a gamma irradiated spider.
[34:16] Um whether or not he has an exgene I
[34:19] don't really know what my opinion is on
[34:20] that. Uh but I think he is just so
[34:24] anomalistic in this universe in every
[34:26] universe. there's only one Spider-Man
[34:29] typically in most universes uh unless
[34:31] there is like a Miles Morales or a Gwen
[34:33] Stacy situation, but even in those
[34:35] cases, it's like an accident causing
[34:36] another accident that leads to a further
[34:38] more specific anomaly. [snorts] Um so if
[34:42] if Gene is the one who just kind of
[34:43] informs him what her journey was and
[34:46] helps him along that biological process,
[34:49] yeah, could be how it goes. Beware the
[34:53] dread saying, "Who was the person in the
[34:54] hoodie? Was the person in the green and
[34:56] yellow hoodie supposed to be a reference
[34:57] to Gan Gray or Hobgoblin? I think it's
[34:59] whoever Sades Sync is playing.
[35:02] I don't think it's uh specifically
[35:05] Hobgoblin. I wouldn't go that far.
[35:08] Everyone kind of wants Ned to be
[35:09] Hobgoblin in this. Uh but I just think
[35:12] this is exactly what what Sadie Sink was
[35:14] wearing in some set photos.
[35:18] Um, Merkco saying, "I think testing that
[35:21] line making Peter think he might be a
[35:22] mutant is compelling, but comics have
[35:24] established he's something different."
[35:26] Yeah agreed.
[35:30] Um,
[35:32] asking if Satie is Typhoid Mary. I don't
[35:34] think so. I don't think they're going to
[35:36] make Typhoid Mary on the billing of
[35:37] Secret Wars, but Typhoid Mary, actually,
[35:40] Typoid Mary made her first appearance in
[35:42] 2005's Electra, if you can believe it.
[35:46] First oncreen appearance. Mario Anthony,
[35:49] do you think the end stinger implies Ned
[35:50] either remembers Peter or befriends him
[35:53] again? Do you think there is an
[35:54] understanding glance between the two?
[35:56] Let's take a look.
[36:09] >> I don't know.
[36:11] I don't think there's an understanding
[36:12] glance.
[36:14] Um,
[36:17] but I I do think they're all clearly
[36:19] obsessed with Spider-Man. Um, I want to
[36:21] know like the fact that Peter moved in
[36:23] across the hall is what I find
[36:25] interesting. He's not going to MIT. He's
[36:26] at Empire State. Or maybe he's not even
[36:28] a student there. He just grabbed a
[36:30] hoodie and went into uh his classroom.
[36:33] Joey Mask asking that same question. Was
[36:35] that Rogue on the bus? I I would love it
[36:37] if it was. Um, Felix saying, "What are
[36:41] your thoughts on how Banner will become
[36:42] the Hulk?" Sadie Peter, what do you
[36:44] think? How Well, I think Banner was
[36:46] always the Hulk and I think he uses this
[36:49] he has this inhibitor device that makes
[36:51] him human again. But yeah, maybe Oh, I
[36:53] hear what you're saying. Like maybe this
[36:56] same adaptation process brings back the
[36:58] Savage Hulk or brings in the Greyhulk
[37:01] iteration of the character. Yeah, I I
[37:03] think everybody who has any kind of
[37:04] enhanced ability that was caused through
[37:06] either some radiation means or genetic
[37:09] means or some other kind of like
[37:12] not like pseudo magical or sci-fi way
[37:16] are going to have some um adaptations
[37:18] triggered and they're all going to go
[37:20] through changes.
[37:22] Dale Dragon Tale says, "Farf theory. The
[37:24] scene with the smiling possessed people.
[37:26] What if that's symbiote hopping to
[37:27] person but uh the FX have not been
[37:29] added?" I don't think they would show us
[37:31] a shot that significant without the VFX.
[37:35] Um, but man, I like how people are
[37:38] trying to keep Venom alive. Like,
[37:41] he's still out there. Uh, and there was
[37:43] some weird plan from Venom: The Last
[37:45] Dance where they wanted to imply things
[37:47] about the MCU based off of what happened
[37:49] at the end of No Way Home. Shay Potter
[37:52] saying, "I think this having to do with
[37:53] mutation. That's why Gan Gray is in
[37:56] this. And the fact that she's a telepath
[37:57] makes me think we're getting Shadow
[37:58] King. What if Shadow King pops into
[38:00] Bruce? I love where you're thinking,
[38:02] Shay. I We don't know for sure if it's
[38:05] Gan Gray. I have to keep saying that.
[38:07] That hasn't been confirmed yet, but um
[38:10] we did get the word mutate in this
[38:12] trailer. That's significant. Um and if
[38:15] you're going to do a proper mutant saga,
[38:17] you do need to have an Amal Farooq. You
[38:19] need to have a Shadow Kang. I encourage
[38:21] everyone to go watch Legion. Uh
[38:23] Amalfaruk is one of these fascinating
[38:26] fascinating super powerful psychic
[38:28] mutants that locks uh in battle with
[38:31] Charles Xavier back in the early 20th
[38:34] century. Um and and basically infests
[38:38] the mind of Charles Xavier's biological
[38:40] son, David Holler, Legion. Uh,
[38:44] I don't know if the general Marvel fan
[38:47] base and and average viewers who see
[38:48] this movie are ready for for Shadow King
[38:51] in this movie, but if that's something
[38:52] they want to bring about in the mutant
[38:54] saga, I'm here for it. Is the hand
[38:56] setting up Iron Fist? Uh, I don't know.
[38:58] I don't know, Alfie. I don't know if uh
[38:59] Danny Ran's going to make it in this
[39:01] movie.
[39:03] Uh, Sand Snake Light saying, "What if
[39:04] Peter is mutating due to Scorpion Sting?
[39:06] Could be gamma powered suit like your
[39:08] friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. That's
[39:10] why he goes to Bruce. Maybe. Oh,
[39:13] perhaps.
[39:15] Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be
[39:16] Scorpion Sting. I think it's going to be
[39:18] maybe that in combination with a lot of
[39:19] other things.
[39:23] Enough said. New York. Uh, do you think
[39:26] they'll do a montage of Peter fighting
[39:27] some of his classic villains like they
[39:28] did in the Fantastic Four First Steps?
[39:30] Yeah, I think you're on to something.
[39:32] Um, now I don't know if the hand is as
[39:34] classic of a Spidey villain as like say
[39:36] Boomerang or Scorpion or um or
[39:41] Tarantula, but I do think these will be
[39:43] part of a montage and you might see like
[39:46] there's there's our rogue possibility.
[39:49] [laughter] I love this. Um,
[39:52] I do think the way these are just so
[39:55] stylized, I think it's going to like all
[39:56] these feel like comic splash pages,
[39:59] don't they? They're beautiful. They're
[40:00] stunning.
[40:02] Uh, and they might be cut, but I do
[40:04] think it is going to be part of a
[40:05] montage similar to Fantastic 4 First
[40:08] Steps. And people really want Danny Rand
[40:11] in there. I I just don't think so.
[40:14] Thank you for your donation.
[40:19] Yeah, not going to argue with you there.
[40:22] Um, what if him seeing MJ flirt is in
[40:25] the void? Oh, that's Peter's like
[40:27] darkest memory is having to watch his ex
[40:30] flirt with Ezra Bridger from Ahsoka.
[40:33] I'll bring up this clip just to show you
[40:34] who I'm talking about. Manus Fondi is uh
[40:36] confirmed to be playing this new guy
[40:38] who's hitting on her. I guess is this is
[40:40] this going to be like Paul Raven from uh
[40:42] the more recent comics, like the guy who
[40:44] like time dilates with MJ. Uh I don't
[40:48] know if he's gonna be They always cast
[40:49] some kind of good-looking dude just to
[40:51] like hit on MJ just to drive Peter
[40:53] crazy. Uh, the fact that you're at this
[40:56] party, Peter, and you're not an MIT
[40:58] student. I don't even think you're in
[41:00] the Boston area. What are you doing?
[41:02] You're lucky you're even allowed to
[41:04] attend the party. You made your choices.
[41:06] Stop lurking after your friends.
[41:09] Yeah, I get why people think the voice
[41:11] sounds like Keith David. I I I just
[41:13] think a not a lot of people know how
[41:14] Marvin Jones III sounds. Uh, I could be
[41:17] wrong. Maybe maybe Keith David is
[41:19] somewhere in this movie, but we know
[41:20] it's not Tal Tman.
[41:24] Thank you, Bruce.
[41:28] Uh, do you think Tom will mention Toby
[41:30] or Toby will have a big cameo of Toby
[41:32] helping him or giving him advice on it?
[41:34] I don't think Toby will have a cameo in
[41:36] this, but I do think we get references
[41:38] to just the other Peters.
[41:41] Yeah, spiders have three life cycles.
[41:44] Now, the life cycles of an insect or an
[41:46] arachnid are not considered mutations.
[41:50] They are considered just the natural
[41:52] stages of of a life cycle that any kind
[41:56] of what's the word I'm looking for
[41:59] invertebrae might also just go through
[42:02] from a a larva stage to a pupus stage to
[42:05] an adult stage whatever it is. Um but
[42:08] it's more referring to the thematic
[42:10] stages of Peter Parker's life the
[42:11] thematic stages of the life cycle. And I
[42:13] think basically that narration is saying
[42:15] he already went through the first three
[42:17] of those stages. So, it means like if
[42:19] you've survived it, now you're going to
[42:21] go through some kind of new form after
[42:24] that third stage.
[42:26] Uh, hey, thanks for your donation. Oh,
[42:28] back. Oh, here we go. Dave's back. Uh,
[42:31] seeing when he falls out of the cocoon,
[42:32] I think some everyone is assuming he's
[42:34] catching himself uh from his organic
[42:35] webbing. And I think someone is catching
[42:37] him and they're trying to throw us off.
[42:39] Let's Let's look at this part.
[42:44] Oh, we do hear a whip.
[42:49] We don't see
[42:52] any web now. It could just be they
[42:54] didn't add it with VFX.
[42:56] Uh but he does he does gesture like he
[42:58] wants it. Dave, you just wanted an
[43:00] excuse for me to go through this frame
[43:02] by frame, didn't you?
[43:06] Uh I don't know if anyone's catching
[43:08] him. Hey, maybe Matt Murdoch catches him
[43:11] or something like that.
[43:14] Oh, you kind of It's hard to tell. Hard
[43:16] to tell.
[43:20] I love you, Dave.
[43:24] Um, Sadi could be Silk and Peter and
[43:26] Silk's connecting Spidey frequency could
[43:28] be something here.
[43:31] Uh, Silk I would have
[43:34] I I don't know. I I don't think they're
[43:36] going to cast her as Silk. I think if
[43:38] you're casting Satie Sink, you just have
[43:40] something else in mind. I'm just trying
[43:41] to imagine what's in the minds of the
[43:42] casting directors. I don't if if I
[43:44] disagree with any of you guys' theories,
[43:45] please don't feel like I'm shutting down
[43:47] your theories. I didn't work on this
[43:49] movie. I I don't know any more than you
[43:50] guys do what's happening. I I'm just
[43:52] trying to I've done this for long enough
[43:54] that I've I'm trying to control my
[43:56] expectations on like how these how these
[43:59] screenwriters, directors, and studio
[44:00] heads really craft these stories and pro
[44:02] and actually cast them. And and so I'm
[44:04] just trying to like hedge my bets a bit.
[44:06] Uh, Frto seen pictures of Spider-Man in
[44:09] the background of MJ's apartment. Yeah.
[44:11] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's some
[44:12] kind of like fanboying that's happening
[44:13] with Ned and MJ. Or maybe this is kind
[44:16] of a beautiful thing that like even
[44:17] though they forgot who Peter Parker is,
[44:18] that they're still trying to like
[44:20] there's something that's guiding them to
[44:22] try to reconnect with their friend. Like
[44:24] that look of recognition that MJ had at
[44:27] at the doughut store, the cafe at the
[44:30] end of No Way Home, I think is kind of
[44:32] setting up where MJ is here. She has
[44:33] some kind of like that's what love is.
[44:36] It it does guide you to where you're
[44:38] supposed to go. It we all kind of have a
[44:40] spidey sense that connects us with the
[44:42] person we're supposed to be with, I like
[44:44] to believe. And I think that's what
[44:46] what's guiding MJ.
[44:49] Uh Duke weighing in on that. Uh he
[44:54] thinks the whip is an organic thing. We
[44:56] just didn't necessarily see it yet in
[44:57] this trailer shot. Uh Jonas saying, "I'm
[45:00] looking forward to this movie more than
[45:01] Doomsday. Is that crazy?" How do you who
[45:04] do you think is in charge? I think it's
[45:06] okay to be more excited for this in
[45:08] Doomsday just because we're getting some
[45:09] real marketing for this. Um, and I think
[45:12] we now have a clear sense of what this
[45:14] movie is. Who do you think is in charge?
[45:18] I don't know. I in terms of who's the
[45:20] ultimate bad guy of this movie. I don't
[45:22] know. I do. You think we saw the
[45:24] ultimate villain of this movie in this
[45:26] trailer?
[45:27] I don't know.
[45:29] How are Peter and Frank friends? That's
[45:31] a good question because it seems like
[45:32] it's a recent friendship that formed.
[45:34] Maybe we find out in the Punisher one
[45:35] shot. Maybe we find out Dyl Born again
[45:37] season 2. Maybe it's just like, hey,
[45:38] they're both vigilantes who are
[45:40] operating kind of outside of the law and
[45:41] they kind of met each other that way. I
[45:44] like the idea of a livedin Marvel world
[45:45] where the characters all already kind of
[45:47] know each other.
[45:50] Uh yeah, the fact that he's fighting the
[45:51] hand unmasked. We talked about this
[45:52] earlier. Weird. It's odd, but they don't
[45:55] really care. Uh R squared online. It's
[45:57] an inside job. DODC breaks out Scorpion
[46:00] and gives him the tech he needs to
[46:01] capture the rogue mutant Spider-Man. I
[46:03] like this theory. DODC is kind of like
[46:06] equipping these people. I think it's
[46:08] going to be like they stole the stuff.
[46:10] Where's that shot of the hospital or
[46:11] whatever exploding?
[46:14] Oh, it's after Sades sink. His hands
[46:16] blow stuff up.
[46:19] Sorry for the scrubbing everybody. Yeah,
[46:21] here I think this might be a DODC
[46:23] facility because you see like a mixture
[46:24] of medical personnel and then armed
[46:26] soldiers and like it would have to be
[46:27] like a research facility where people
[46:30] are being experimented on um where some
[46:33] of this tech would be kept. There's that
[46:34] like armored vehicle that's over here.
[46:36] So I I think there's going to be like
[46:38] someone who breaks out from here and
[46:39] steals some of the tech. What's in that
[46:42] letter? Who wrote it? Uh I'll dig into
[46:45] that in the breakdown, but we're talking
[46:47] about this opening shot. H I don't know
[46:50] why I should learn how to use my desktop
[46:52] better.
[46:54] Yeah, I'll dig into this breakdown. But
[46:56] I think this is something that like he
[46:58] wrote either to himself or
[47:02] um
[47:05] or to MJ wishing that he could send it.
[47:07] Just putting his thoughts down.
[47:10] Comic Central thinks Tombstone is
[47:12] pulling the strings. I think that could
[47:13] be the case if his voice is in the
[47:14] trailer. Um Iel saying what is Satie
[47:18] Sink is playing young Madame Webb whose
[47:20] hair is red. I don't know. Is her hair
[47:22] always red? I remember her hair being
[47:23] like a shock of white because she was uh
[47:26] Stan Lee's wife. Um
[47:31] hey uh maybe [laughter]
[47:36] Peter would have to be in the Amazon
[47:38] researching spiders with her mother just
[47:40] before she died.
[47:45] Yeah, I'm sorry. You sent this when I
[47:47] was on a different trailer shot, but
[47:48] thank you for sending it. Storming on
[47:51] ahead. Did you see the conspiracy board
[47:52] behind Spider-Man? Yeah. Uh, we talked
[47:54] about this. I think you're on the same
[47:55] wavelength as the rest of us. No visible
[47:58] web shooters in the prison scene. Let's
[48:01] take a look.
[48:05] Um, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I
[48:09] don't see any web shooters there. So
[48:11] again, we're seeing a lot of shots in
[48:13] this trailer of just organic wristbased
[48:16] web web projection.
[48:20] Man, people really want Madam Web. I
[48:22] don't blame you. There's something
[48:23] iconic about [laughter]
[48:25] about Dakota Johnson. Hey, speaking of
[48:28] the Sony verse, uh if you guys want to
[48:30] participate in this, New Rockstars is
[48:32] doing another live show at the UCB
[48:34] Theater on April 17th. Um you don't have
[48:37] to be in the LA area to watch it. you
[48:38] can watch like a a a remote live stream
[48:41] of it. Uh and we're going to be doing an
[48:43] a bridgestaged reading of the Jared Leto
[48:46] MorbiiUs
[48:48] screenplay. I know you're like, "Why
[48:50] would you read that? The movie was
[48:51] terrible." Exactly. That's the point. We
[48:52] have to kind of unpack these really bad
[48:54] scripts for it to be fun and explain
[48:56] what the hell happened. And if that one
[48:58] goes well, we'll definitely do one for
[48:59] Madame Webb later this year.
[49:02] Uh a link for that is in the description
[49:04] below. John Wick
[49:07] Y60. Maybe this even with Jal Tilman
[49:10] speaking. I feel like he says danger. It
[49:11] sounds off saying the mutant instead of
[49:13] that sentence. Love New Rockstars. Hey,
[49:15] thanks buddy. Um
[49:19] trying to find the clip you were talking
[49:20] about.
[49:30] >> Danger sounds normal to me. Um, but it
[49:32] could just like a lot of times when you
[49:33] hear audio and trailers or audio in
[49:35] YouTube videos, it's just weirdly out of
[49:37] sync.
[49:39] Uh, Orion says, "Thanks for your Oh,
[49:42] thank you for your donation. Justice for
[49:44] Paul Giamati Rhino." That's what I say.
[49:47] You're not wrong.
[49:51] Um, guys, starting uh I'll give you like
[49:54] I don't know 30 more seconds to get in
[49:57] any other kind of comments or super
[49:58] chats. I'm just going to try to uh rush
[50:01] through as many of these as I can
[50:03] because I do have to get to working on
[50:05] the breakdown. Uh I really appreciate
[50:07] you guys joining me for this live
[50:08] stream. Uh but we'll continue talking
[50:10] for like another 10 minutes or so.
[50:13] Uh Cara Killgrave is a body hopper, too,
[50:16] though. That's true. A lot of
[50:18] characters. I'm not saying there's like
[50:19] no other body hoppers other than people
[50:20] with psionic mutant abilities, but she's
[50:23] just like the most high-profile person.
[50:25] If you're talking about someone who is
[50:26] coming back in Secret Wars, beware of
[50:28] the dread saying. I think the scene with
[50:30] Peter getting flung across the roof is
[50:32] not because of the organic webbing or
[50:33] him trying to hold on the Hulk. You
[50:34] know, a lot of people were saying this
[50:35] yesterday, too, but not to yuck your
[50:38] yum. You just do see
[50:42] you don't you see where Peter's webbing
[50:44] latches on to and there's no Hulk in
[50:46] that
[50:49] shot
[50:51] right here. See right here and right
[50:53] here? That's not Hulk. That's just the
[50:55] side of a building. But I want that to
[50:57] be true. No web shooters here.
[51:01] He just slingshots himself like Toby did
[51:04] on the on the Queensboro Bridge.
[51:07] Uh any chance of Sady's playing a
[51:09] version of Wanda that came into 616
[51:11] during an incursion events of No Way
[51:12] Home. I feel like Lizzie Olsen is the
[51:14] only one who can play Wanda. Sorry, I
[51:17] don't want other variants. And no way or
[51:19] Multiverse of Madness established that
[51:20] like variants of Wanda look like Lizzie
[51:22] Olsen in other universes. I wonder if
[51:24] Banner will Hulk out in the movie. He
[51:26] better. Don't just put Ruffalo in the
[51:28] movie. Give us Hulk. Um MJ is going to
[51:31] figure out his identity again. There's a
[51:33] corkboard fully. Yeah, I think I think
[51:35] she's going to get there naturally just
[51:37] through her own investigation skills.
[51:42] [laughter]
[51:44] Um
[51:47] Sure.
[51:49] Uh [laughter]
[51:51] I love how you're thinking. Look, that's
[51:53] where, you know, Michael Mando, Matt
[51:56] Gargan's prison cellmate, Adrien Tombs,
[52:00] went at the end of MorbiiUs is he glowed
[52:03] in his prison cell and then [laughter]
[52:05] teleported to another dimension where he
[52:07] had a conversation with some person he
[52:08] never met and said, "I don't know what
[52:10] I'm doing here. It has to do with
[52:11] Spider-Man, I think." So, sure. Uh,
[52:14] Joseph saying, "Uh, yeah, the device on
[52:16] his hand, that's his inhibitor bracelet
[52:18] that keeps him in human form."
[52:23] I'm done with Smart Hulk. I'm just
[52:25] saying that right now, guys. I'm so done
[52:27] with Smart Hulk. Give me Bruce Banner.
[52:29] Give me Savage Hulk. You can give me
[52:31] Greyhulk. It's just Smart Hulk. It was I
[52:34] think the one of like the few flaws in
[52:37] Endgame. I I think it worked for like a
[52:40] sequence, but it deprived us of so many
[52:43] of the fun things about Hulk.
[52:47] Fit Dad CEO saying, "I'll never
[52:48] understand why they don't use Hulk more
[52:49] to advertise this movie. It's basically
[52:51] one giant banner." [laughter]
[52:54] Yeah, the man with the puns. You're not
[52:57] wrong, Dave. Yeah, totally right. I the
[53:00] reason they don't do it is the VFX, you
[53:03] know, they they got to CGI him to look
[53:06] really good and better than we've seen
[53:08] him before and they want to make sure
[53:10] that they get that right and they don't
[53:11] want to look it in the trailer and have
[53:12] it look bad. Um, also they put Hulk in a
[53:16] trailer before and then they took him
[53:17] out of the movie and I think all trailer
[53:19] cutters don't want to make that mistake
[53:21] again.
[53:23] Is that Daredevil under the big
[53:25] Spider-Man poster at the end? Let's see.
[53:28] What are you talking about?
[53:34] Oh, are people looking at the clouds?
[53:37] Is this the world on fire that Matt sees
[53:40] when he closes his eyes? I don't know
[53:42] about that. Look, I really want
[53:44] Daredevil to be in this movie, too.
[53:49] Uh, meme father saying, "I wonder if
[53:51] Bruce or Hulk might remember somewhere
[53:52] in their minds who is Peter due to how
[53:55] he asked what Peter's name was again.
[53:59] Um, I think that's one way to interpret
[54:02] what he says.
[54:04] I think he's more just like,
[54:06] >> "I need your help. What did you say?"
[54:08] >> I think what this is establishing is
[54:10] that Peter might not be an actual
[54:12] student at Empire State. And he goes,
[54:13] "Wait, are you actually in my class?"
[54:15] Because I know I have a lecture hall.
[54:17] There's like 150 kids in here, but I
[54:19] don't remember you. Uh, but maybe. Why
[54:23] are Ned and MJ at a party in NYC if
[54:25] they're at MIT? Could be spring break,
[54:28] could be a weekend thing. Peter could be
[54:29] in Boston. We don't know if like that's
[54:31] a New York City party, but yes, it's
[54:34] weird that Peter's there. It's weird
[54:35] that he's across the hall. Part of me
[54:37] feels like could just move on with your
[54:38] life, but if you think that is your
[54:40] soulmate, I just think part of me wants
[54:43] to see Peter move on to like a Gwen
[54:45] Stacy at some point in this life.
[54:47] Um, but maybe they're saving Gwen for
[54:50] like a relationship with Miles.
[54:53] Who do you think is holding Sades
[54:55] character in confinement in that room?
[54:57] Thanks for all the hard work. Thank you,
[54:58] F. Patterson. I think it's the DODC
[55:02] uh or some other kind of mutant
[55:04] containment division.
[55:09] Yeah, I I think we agree. Just pay
[55:11] Meech.
[55:13] Uh sounds like Bill Foster. Oh, you mean
[55:15] like Lawrence Fishburn? I don't know if
[55:18] you're going to get Larry Fishburn in
[55:19] this movie. Could Keith David be the
[55:21] Norman Osborne of the MCU?
[55:24] I I love that casting idea. I just I
[55:27] don't think they're gonna get Norman
[55:28] Osborne in this movie. They should. They
[55:32] should. Um here's kind of like a weird
[55:35] thing is that
[55:38] we already have uh Coleman Domingo doing
[55:41] an excellent take on Norman Osborne in
[55:46] Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
[55:47] So, if you have another high-profile
[55:49] black actor playing Norman Osborne in
[55:52] live action in the MCU, it kind of I
[55:54] think
[55:56] I don't know. I think it kind of lessens
[55:58] what Coleman Domingo is doing in
[56:00] animation because it it's saying like
[56:02] this cool groundbreaking thing that um
[56:05] that they did for Your Friendly
[56:06] Neighborhood Spider-Man, we're just
[56:09] going to do it here in live action with
[56:10] a different actor. It it just feels like
[56:12] an odd choice to go. Nothing against Ke.
[56:14] I think Keith David would do an amazing
[56:16] job and I think there's a lot of great
[56:17] black actors who can make a great black
[56:19] Norman Osborne and MC. I would just say
[56:20] let it be Coleman Domingo if you're
[56:22] going to do that.
[56:24] Uh Boh say next trailer will definitely
[56:26] feature Hulk and Tombstone when the VFX
[56:28] professes. Yeah, you got to save
[56:29] something for the next trailer, right?
[56:31] And I think that's where you see Hulk
[56:32] and Tombstone
[56:34] and people really really want Iron Fist.
[56:37] I just don't know. The eyes turning
[56:39] dark, a lot of dark colors in his
[56:40] outfits. Could Venom be at play? Um, I I
[56:44] just don't think I think that's a lesson
[56:46] Destin is learning from like past
[56:49] things. I think we're going to try to
[56:50] move away a little bit from the Sony
[56:52] verse. So, I don't know if Venom's going
[56:54] to be part of this, the six extra hands.
[56:56] Yeah, I do think we do see some kind of
[56:58] thing that reminds us of Man Spider
[56:59] where Peter grows extra arms, but I
[57:01] don't think it's going to be called Man
[57:02] Spider, and I don't think it's going to
[57:03] be a big part of the plot. I think it's
[57:05] just going to be like as his body is
[57:07] aggressively changing, weird stuff like
[57:08] that is going to happen. Uh,
[57:11] Sinisterics. Yeah, it would be
[57:12] interesting. They should do it at some
[57:14] point. Uh, a lot of people think Paul is
[57:17] Flash.
[57:19] Oh, are you talking about
[57:23] They think that's Flash Thompson at the
[57:25] party. Yeah, that that's not Tony
[57:27] Ralori.
[57:29] Although, is this the blonde neighbor?
[57:31] Is that an Is that Gwen?
[57:34] >> No, it's not. Yeah, that's not Flash.
[57:36] That's Fondi.
[57:40] Um, I think we should get a reference to
[57:42] the web of life in Destiny. We don't
[57:45] need Madame Web in this movie. How do we
[57:47] think Scorpion gets a suit? Could
[57:48] Tombstone or Kingpin be the one funding
[57:50] all the bad guys? Hey, now we're talking
[57:52] about who could be a big bad. You know,
[57:54] Denafhrio had made some comments that
[57:56] like his version of Kingpin cannot be in
[57:58] a Spider-Man movie. And I and I do think
[58:01] he's right there. I think there's some
[58:02] kind of legal reasons why. I think we
[58:04] can and I think there's just some things
[58:06] that happen in this trailer that imply
[58:08] that Wilson Fisk may not be in the same
[58:10] position that he's in during Daredevil
[58:12] Born again. Um, but I do think Tombstone
[58:15] could be kind of a a crime boss who's
[58:18] who's helping fund a lot of this.
[58:21] Do we see something dark on Peter's face
[58:23] at the end? Are you talking about maybe
[58:26] some more Venom thinking? I think you're
[58:28] talking about this, right?
[58:30] Something in his eyes. I think it's just
[58:32] Jean. I think it's Gene in his eyes.
[58:35] Your biggest takeaway you hope to see in
[58:37] this film? Just Savage Hulk. That's what
[58:40] I want. I want to see Hulk be Hulk
[58:42] again. I don't really need to see Grey
[58:45] Hulk. I just want to see a big green
[58:46] Savage Hulk who isn't smart, who's just
[58:49] reactive and angry and gets angrier and
[58:52] angrier and breaks things. If you're
[58:53] going to put Hulk in a movie, give me
[58:55] that. That's what I want. Um, so whoever
[58:59] is called mutant or similar wording will
[59:01] be considered to be surviving both
[59:02] Avengers movies can be with X-Men and
[59:04] Mutants Slater. Yeah. Yes, I do think
[59:07] that's what's going to happen. They're
[59:09] going to start introducing this
[59:10] nomenclature here in this movie.
[59:14] Thanks for your donation, Leech. Um,
[59:17] Peter's red eyes reminded me of the
[59:19] instant kill mode. Instant kill mode
[59:22] like from his uh Stark era suit. Could
[59:26] we see a natural version of that?
[59:28] What would a natural version look like?
[59:30] Does he just go like berserker with his
[59:32] six arms on somebody?
[59:35] [laughter] That's fun. Or does he have
[59:36] some kind of poison stinger or something
[59:38] like that? [snorts]
[59:39] Uh, no. I think I'm going to go with the
[59:41] theory that this is just gene in his
[59:42] head. I know there's a lot to scan. I
[59:44] suggest taking him before the mutation.
[59:46] Last known activity. Urban traversal
[59:48] synthetic filament. I think. Uh, are you
[59:51] talking about on the screen?
[60:07] There you go.
[60:14] Yeah, I'll look at all this in the
[60:16] breakdown to figure out all this stuff,
[60:17] guys.
[60:19] Thanks for your patience. Again, that
[60:20] breakdown video is going to be coming to
[60:21] the New Roxers channel tomorrow. I need
[60:23] I need several hours.
[60:26] Uh, who's the big That's kind of the big
[60:28] question of this, right? Tombstone,
[60:30] maybe.
[60:32] Um, is nature or evolution just the big
[60:36] bad? Oh, you're right. Power Maker. MJ
[60:39] is wearing the same necklace and it's
[60:41] sweet right here. Maybe. Yeah, she's
[60:44] wearing that broken black Dalia
[60:45] necklace.
[60:48] That jacket and sweatshirt looks like
[60:50] what Eddie Brock wears in Venom.
[60:52] Not sure. Is this uh the Sadie Sync
[60:56] thing? Yeah. I don't
[60:58] I don't know.
[61:02] It's also what Sadie Sync wears in set
[61:04] photos.
[61:06] Explain that people remember Spider-Man
[61:08] but not Peter. Yeah, I think you're
[61:10] right.
[61:12] Uh wait, is the cocoon scene the same as
[61:13] Sadi with the PC? Yeah, it is the same
[61:15] room.
[61:17] Yes, agreed. I think that is what's
[61:19] happening. Uh, what kind of job? Uh,
[61:23] hopefully it's related to taking photos
[61:24] for the Daily Bugle.
[61:28] Where do you think MJ and Ned fit into
[61:29] the story? Do you think Remember finds
[61:31] out who Spider-Man really is by the end?
[61:33] Yes, I think they're going to be
[61:34] investigating all of that.
[61:38] Wearing the web shooter so openly.
[61:42] Um, maybe referring to a different shot
[61:44] where he just has them out when he looks
[61:46] like Peter.
[61:47] What orifice asking the right question?
[61:51] I think it's going to be implied his
[61:53] wrists, but you know, there have been
[61:55] other theories.
[62:01] Um,
[62:03] it just sounds like Keith David. There's
[62:04] no confirmation that Keith David's doing
[62:06] anything. Um, but Keith David, Charles
[62:09] Xavier, that could work, too. I just
[62:11] love his voice. Um,
[62:15] for the DODC to act on that, I I think
[62:17] the DOTC just kind of suspects all
[62:20] enhanced people regardless of their
[62:22] genetic codecs because they would also
[62:24] need technology to scan their genetics
[62:26] similar to what Bruno has. Now, I think
[62:27] Bruno is going to be an intern for the
[62:29] DODC because that kid has narc written
[62:30] all over him.
[62:32] Uh, yeah, maybe it is that letter from
[62:35] No Way Home that he was going to give to
[62:36] MJ at the end.
[62:39] Um, I do think eventually, just not in
[62:42] this movie. Uh, not sure how he could
[62:44] stop Hulk without the nice help.
[62:49] Um, yeah, I don't think he could stop
[62:51] Hulk either. I don't think he's not I
[62:53] don't think he's strong enough.
[62:55] Yeah, I would love it. And I think
[62:56] Kingpin is kind of a natural foe to
[62:59] Peter Parker. It's just, you know,
[63:00] according to Denafhrio, he can't be in
[63:04] this movie due to legal rights issues.
[63:08] Yeah. So, we'll we'll talk about this in
[63:10] the breakdown, but they do establish
[63:11] something about Deritable Born Again
[63:13] season two with this trailer. Uh Harry
[63:15] Osborne with MJ. If you think Iman is
[63:17] Fondi's playing Harry Osborne, I think
[63:19] Aman could do a great job with that.
[63:24] Yeah, our man
[63:26] got some Mark Wahberg gun shows over
[63:29] there. [laughter] Tom Holland is a very
[63:32] physically disciplined performer. He
[63:34] like in he was like, you know, a dancer
[63:37] in Billy Elliott. The the guy is is so
[63:39] committed to his art form. Um and so
[63:44] good for him. Uh I I don't know how he's
[63:46] able to keep up with that regimen.
[63:49] Uh DODC equal Friends of Humanity. I
[63:51] think we're going to meet a lot of
[63:52] different mutant groups in the Mutant
[63:53] Saga. I don't know if it means like
[63:55] Friends of Humanity in particular.
[63:58] Could Venom be in there? I think I just
[64:00] think Sony's moving away from Venom
[64:02] here. U Peter's hand at 114. Is it just
[64:06] a shadow?
[64:14] I don't see his left hand.
[64:17] You might have a different time code
[64:18] than me.
[64:20] Yeah, I don't know which one you're
[64:21] referring to, but I think it would just
[64:23] be a shadow. If you're if you're getting
[64:24] at Venom, then yeah. Who do you think
[64:26] he's a hooded person? Pretty sure it's
[64:28] going to be Sadie Sync's character.
[64:29] Maybe Jean Gray. Could Luke Cage
[64:31] possibly appear? Let's get him in in
[64:32] Daredevil Born again first.
[64:35] Appreciate your donation. Um, if I hear
[64:38] Hulk speak coherently, I will be very
[64:40] disappointed. I won't rage. Totally with
[64:44] you. Totally with you. Just give me
[64:46] Savage Hulk.
[64:48] David, thank you for your super chat. Is
[64:51] it possible that the mirror dimension
[64:52] astral projection when Doctor Strange
[64:54] makes Peter out of his body resembles
[64:56] the Peter Tingle?
[64:59] The mirror dimension astral projection.
[65:01] Oh, I know what you're talking about.
[65:03] Um,
[65:04] in I think that was the the aractnum
[65:07] frequency, the the Spidey sense that we
[65:09] see in No Way Home. And I think that's
[65:10] still like something Peter has. Uh, but
[65:13] interestingly, like Peter Peter's spidey
[65:15] sense didn't stop him from getting hit
[65:16] by a van
[65:18] by a Punisher. What? Right here. Why
[65:21] didn't Peter see it coming? Did he want
[65:23] the van to hit him is kind of my
[65:25] question. Um, yeah. So, I think there's
[65:28] gonna be just certain things where
[65:29] Peter's powers are just kind of out of
[65:31] whack.
[65:34] Okay.
[65:36] A big Tito band unrelated to Spider-Man.
[65:39] Could Thor holding Deadpool crying
[65:40] actually be Thor holding Loki?
[65:43] Um, sure. Well, I think it was based off
[65:46] of the scene of Thor the Dark World
[65:47] where he was holding Loki. Um, I just
[65:50] don't know why it had to be Deadpool in
[65:52] there. Maybe making a sacrifice play to
[65:54] protect Loki in Secret Wars. I I don't
[65:56] know if we'll ever get an answer to that
[65:58] question. That was like a a Ryan
[66:00] Reynolds, Shawn Levy, Zeb Wells question
[66:02] introduced in Spider-Man or or a
[66:05] Deadpool Wolverine that I don't know if
[66:06] the Russo brothers even know is out
[66:08] there. Yeah, a lot of people think Aman
[66:11] Fondi could be Harry Osborne. I like
[66:12] that theory a lot. A long shot. Do we
[66:15] think it's possible Talman plays some
[66:17] form of Jefferson Davis or do we think
[66:18] he's still he's Norman? I don't think
[66:20] he's either. I think there's some
[66:22] theories out there that he's William
[66:23] Meter, an anti-mutant figure from X-Men
[66:26] comics. I think he could be like a
[66:27] Striker figure or someone like that.
[66:31] Um, yeah, it's a good point. We are four
[66:33] years after the events of No Way Home.
[66:35] They could be in a graduate program
[66:36] after MIT. Maybe they're now in a
[66:38] graduate program at at Empire State
[66:40] after getting their undergrad at MIT.
[66:45] Peter needing the symbiote suit by the
[66:47] end.
[66:48] um
[66:51] or the stable feeling of being powerful.
[66:52] He also helps the theme of being alone.
[66:54] Yeah, I think it's possible that we see
[66:56] Peter in a symbiote suit at some point
[66:58] in the MCU. I just think that's a Secret
[66:59] Wars thing as opposed to something we'll
[67:01] see in this movie.
[67:03] Um Secret Wars, we're still like 18
[67:05] months away from that and we got to get
[67:07] through this movie. We got to get
[67:08] through Doomsday. We got to get through
[67:10] some announcements for that movie and
[67:12] we'll know more very soon. Last question
[67:14] I'm going to answer. Um, Banner is a
[67:17] professor at MIT. That's how Peter goes.
[67:19] Answering the question of like, why is
[67:20] Peter at this party? I think Banner is a
[67:22] professor at Empire State University.
[67:24] You see Peter wearing a hoodie that says
[67:26] ESU for Empire State University. And all
[67:29] these people are wearing similar kind of
[67:30] green coated uh stuff. Um,
[67:35] now we don't know if Peter is an actual
[67:37] student there, if he just stole his
[67:39] hoodie. Uh, I think he is a student
[67:41] there. Um, and maybe Ned and MJ are like
[67:44] grad students at ESU now at this point.
[67:46] All right, guys. I gotta get to writing
[67:48] this breakdown. I have a full full day
[67:50] ahead of me. This has been awesome. Just
[67:53] awesome to hang out with you guys and to
[67:55] do this live stream. I again, I really
[67:57] apologize about the uh about the lag at
[68:00] the beginning of this. Um, so this live
[68:02] stream is just going to be trimmed down
[68:05] and published as a as a separate video
[68:07] for the channel for everybody who wasn't
[68:08] able to join us for the stream. I don't
[68:10] know if all the questions because we
[68:11] went for like I don't know an hour and a
[68:15] half, an hour. Uh so yeah, but
[68:19] seriously, tomorrow's video will be the
[68:22] Easter egg breakdown. Publishing later
[68:24] today is going to be Jessica's breakdown
[68:25] of the first three episodes of
[68:26] Invincible on Prime Video. Season 4 is
[68:29] going real hard. You're going to love
[68:30] that video. Um and then yeah, tomorrow
[68:33] is going to be like the in-depth Easter
[68:34] egg breakdown of like every clue you
[68:36] missed. It's going to be a huge video
[68:38] and you're going to love it. Um, yeah,
[68:41] the shirt I'm wearing is the who's who
[68:42] shirt. You can get it exclusively at our
[68:44] merch store, nerd riot.shop. It's like
[68:45] the best way you can support us. Again,
[68:47] we are doing another live show at the
[68:49] UCB theater on April 17th where we're
[68:51] going to do an a bridged stage reading
[68:52] of MorbiiUs. You're going to love that
[68:54] and you can watch it wherever you live.
[68:56] Tickets are in ticket link is in
[68:57] description. But let me know your
[68:59] comments on uh but let me know in the
[69:01] comments down below your thoughts on
[69:02] this trailer. And a special thanks to
[69:04] one of our NR Underground subscribers,
[69:06] Rick Denman, for supporting us at the
[69:07] executive producer level. You can get
[69:09] all of our exclusive bonus content by
[69:11] clicking on the link in the description
[69:12] below.
[69:14] Uh, thanks so much to Studio Tech Brian
[69:17] Kim, to New Rockstars editors Joshua
[69:19] Steven Herd and Abby Freel and
[69:20] supporting editors, any other supporting
[69:22] editors who work at New Rockstars. You
[69:23] can follow me at EA Voss. Hit that
[69:25] subscribe button. Thanks for watching
[69:27] and I'll see you next time. and buy
[69:28] everybody.