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# Video 4_NeLYafPHc

> Source: [Video 4_NeLYafPHc](https://youtube.com/watch?v=4_NeLYafPHc)

## Summary

The video is a live reaction and analysis of the first trailer for 'Spider-Man: Brand New Day'. The host, Eric Boss, watches the trailer for the first time and shares his initial thoughts, focusing on key reveals like Sadie Sink's character, Peter's physical changes, and the implications for the MCU's mutant saga.

### Key Points

- **First Trailer Watch** [1:09] — The host watches the trailer for the first time and reacts to key moments, including Peter's emotional state, the appearance of Sadie Sink, and the use of the word 'mutate'.
- **Sadie Sink as Jean Grey Theory** [4:09] — The host speculates that Sadie Sink is playing Jean Grey, based on her containment, green outfit, and the body-hopping consciousness shown in the trailer.
- **The Word 'Mutate'** [2:41] — The host notes that Bruce Banner says 'mutate' in the trailer, which is a deliberate word choice to hint at the mutant saga without calling Peter a mutant.
- **No Way Home Aftermath** [5:43] — The host explains that the movie is set four years after No Way Home and directly deals with the consequences of the memory wipe spell.
- **Peter's Evolution and Organic Webbing** [20:55] — The host discusses Peter's physical changes, including organic webbing and a cocoon, suggesting a natural evolution triggered by his connection to other Spider-Men.
- **Villains Revealed** [19:09] — The host lists the villains seen in the trailer: Tombstone, Scorpion, Boomerang, Tarantula, and the Hand, and speculates on their roles.
- **Mutant Saga Setup** [10:15] — The host theorizes that Jean Grey's introduction is a setup for the mutant saga, with her Phoenix powers being used in Secret Wars and then resetting her character.

## Transcript

Welcome back to New Rockstars. I'm Eric
Boss and this is going to be a reaction
to the new trailer for Spider-Man Brand
New Day. We are live here on the New
Rockstars channel dealing with all the
fun stuff that live streams bring. And
I'm going to watch this trailer for the
first time. I have not seen it yet. All
I've seen are these crazy one second
clips that kept coming out all
throughout the day on Tuesday. What a
weird thing that Sony did. But the
trailer is now here. I'm hearing good
things about it. I'm going to watch it
now. I'm going to go through my general
thoughts. I'm going to try my best to
take your questions to it. Uh, and then
I'm going to spend the rest of this
workday going through it frame by frame
for like eight hours to try to find
everything because I think you really do
need to spend that much time with a
trailer like these Marvel trailers to
find everything in it. And then that
proper in-depth analysis and breakdown
is going to be coming out on the New
Rockstars channel tomorrow that's going
to have all the Easter eggs in it. Today
we're just going to go through your
biggest questions and I'm going to watch
through this once. I think I've delayed
it enough. All
right. Three, two, one. Let's go.
>> Oh, Peter's watching their first day at
MIT and he can't enjoy it. That's so
cruel. Our poor boy.
Oh, music. We're definitely silencing
this out.
>> You don't remember me, but we used to
know each other.
>> Oh, laundry day.
>> Okay. Daredevil spoiler maybe, cuz
that's Sheila Rivera.
>> Whoa. Whoa.
You just hit me with a
>> Whoa.
>> Go home.
>> Peter Parker's heart.
>> What is happening?
>> That looked like Ezra Bridger there
macking on MJ.
I sense a new Rockstar's thumbnail
somewhere in that shot.
>> Yay.
>> Oh man.
>> Did I hear the M word? DNA is mutating.
>> Now he said mutate, which is different
from mutant. Wait, that was sad sink.
Whoa. What?
>> Whoa.
>> Okay.
>> This looks beautiful.
>> Whoa, the hand.
Whoa.
[laughter]
>> Oh, wow. Uh, this trailer looks
stunning. It looks so good, guys. Um,
and uh, if I I just like I don't know
why I'm surprised that Destin Daniel
[ __ ] could make something that looks
this beautiful. I mean, just these
opening shots of like Peter being
inverted like this is the most like the
Into the Spider-Verse, across the
Spider-Verse type imagery that um, Tom
Holland, Peter Parker has ever looked in
live action. Um,
so many takeaways we can get from uh,
the Sadie sink of it all. the fact that
she really does seem to be Jean Gray if
you ask me. I mean, uh, okay, we're
going to get into all of this. Um,
before we get into this discussion, the
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Um, I want to take some of the comments
that I've seen come through, flying
through. Um,
oh, immediate regret. Uh, immediate
regret. Uh, guys, uh, the fact that like
all of you are joining me. Um, this is,
uh, just so cool to be able to be here
liveing with you. Uh, let's see. cryptic
UK saying, "Has he been poisoned? Evolve
or die story?" Yeah, I don't know if
he's been poisoned or if this is just
some kind of like natural rebirth that
like the voice of Marvin Jones the third
as tombstone is suggesting he's going
through that this is just some kind of
natural life cycle that like he was
always destined to happen. Or I I have a
kind of a a hairbrain theory that like
with the oncoming events of Doomsday and
Secret Wars, this is a natural evolution
brought on by the arachno frequency that
was triggered by his connection with his
brothers in the last movie. This isn't
just like a reset of a of a trilogy.
This is like the fourth movie in a
series that is going to deal with the
impact of what happened in Spider-Man No
Way Home. Not just the memory wipe
spell, but the fact that the memory wipe
spell is so big in this trailer, right?
They're not just like brushing
everything that happened in No Way Home
under the rug. They're dealing with the
direct impact of like that memory wife
spell and how it affected not just MJ
and Ned but also like other Avengers in
this universe specifically
um uh Bruce Banner. Peter's now at
Empire State University and and I think
like everything that happened is like
still weighing on Peter Parker both on
his mind and his physiology.
Uh, so I hearing the rumors that this
was going to be dealing with like Peter
having organic webbing, maybe cocooning
into a man spider form. I I'll be
honest, I didn't dig that. I I didn't
really know what to make of all that.
Um, so but now watching this, I get it.
Like I I feel like I get what they're
trying to do. Um, so let's talk about
the Sadie Sync element of this movie. So
here's one new shot. A lot of you guys
were saying, "Oh, it's just a leaked
trailer." There's a lot of news shots in
this that like from what I understand,
we're not in a leaked trailer. Uh, so
Sadie Sink is playing this character
wearing kind of a green outfit in this
shot in what kind of looks like Batman's
lair in the Dark Knight, this kind of um
sensory deprived room where they try to
give her a nice comfortable office
dormatory space that they have to put
this kind of shielding around. Notice
not just like the wooden paneling, but
like whatever these things are. These
things look like kind of the the
repulsor technology from the Stark Tech
drones that are used to just zap whoever
this is the moment she gets out of line
or just stun her. Uh the hedgehogs from
Stranger Things final season. Um we
don't see Satie Sing's face. We don't
even hear her voice. Um,
so, uh, a question that people are
having, sorry I might have missed it.
Someone asking specifically if it is
screw ball. I believe I saw a super chat
from
um,
someone saying it's screw ball.
Real quick, I just want to make sure I
shout you out.
Uh, Blizzard, Blizzards, thank you for
your super chat saying manifesting that
Satie is playing screw ball. Um, also
Alfie in thank you for your super chat
saying, "Do we think we get uh Jean Gray
or Maline Prior?" Uh, yeah, all all
valid questions. Um, sorry I wasn't able
to feature yours on screen here like I'm
going to do with you, Dan Smith saying,
"Been a huge friend for years.
Appreciate everything you do and the
team do." Thank you so much. Um, I don't
think it is Meline Prior and I don't
think it's Screwball. So, just to kind
of explain who Screwball is. Screwball
is like a social media influencer
villain to Peter Parker who was brought
about in like 2008, close to the brand
new day era. If if Satie Sync was
Screwball, I don't know why they would
bring back Screwball for Secret Wars.
That's kind of my my question with that.
I think she's got to be a bigger
character than that. And the reason I
think that she is Gan Gray is
specifically this sequence here where
there is a random woman who seems to be
possessed by some other kind of
consciousness who smiles when she sees
Spider-Man and then that consciousness
jumps into this random soldier and then
Peter looks over here and that
consciousness randomly jumps up to this
guy up here. Who is that? Trema?
No, it could just be another guy. So,
it's we're talking about a consciousness
body hopper. And there's not many people
in the Marvel world who have a power set
like that other than kind of a psionic
mutant like either Professor Charles
Xavier or or Gan Gray. Um, also just the
shots of her fists clenching when she's
in this containment. Doesn't it look
like she kind of has some kind of
Phoenix Force ability? Now, again, I
don't know if like
it's her fists that are causing this
explosion. It could just be a match cut
of some kind, but if they need to keep
her under containment that way, you
don't keep screw ball under containment
like this. That's all I'm saying. I had
a whole theory uh last week on why would
you introduce Gan Gray right now in the
MCU? I get it. It's weird. We're about
to have Doomsday. We're about to have
Secret Wars. If you're going to have a
mutant saga after that, why why do you
need Gan Gray in this street level
Spider-Man story? My theory was that,
well, we do want to use this
high-profile Spider-Man movie to set up
the mutant saga, right? That's an
important thing. Um, and if you're going
to do that, you do kind of need to see
someone who matters to that next era.
But you set her up now in order to
supercharge her into the Phoenix Force
in Secret Wars. You burn out that star
power in Secret Wars. you deplete her so
that she ends the Secret Wars conflict
in whatever the new restored MCU is
after that as just Gan Gray, young Gan
Gray stepping into the mutant academy of
the X-Mansion with other mutants of her
age group. Scott Summers, Hank McCoy,
Warren Worthington III, Bobby Drake,
maybe even Camala Khan, uh, Billy
Maximoff, these other mutants who can
just kind of join this new class of
mutants. And the Phoenix element of her
life is behind her. So then she can just
forge her own destiny without having to
like set up this awkward Dark Phoenix
saga, which was the mistake that was
made with Gan Gray in the past eras.
Marvel girl Gan Gray is interesting in
her own right and that's something that
they could explore in the mutant saga
and I think I think Sadie Sync would be
perfect for um talking about the what's
going on with Peter Sticky Peter thank
you for your super chat Sora saying are
we going to get four arms Peter
referring to Manspider there was a lot
of theories and speculation that that's
what we're going to see in this movie
that uh man spider is like the weird
physical formation while I think that
maybe in concept art and that maybe a
form Peter takes at some point in the
movie. I don't think that's what it's
all setting up. I don't think that's
where it's all going. I think the idea
is that his body is now going through
some kind of physical adaptations. You
could even call it evolution, but
evolution requires multiple generations
of a species over like millennia. This
is more of an adaptation. This life
cycle that this voice that we hear
throughout the trailer, this voice, it's
it's not Tal Tman. Tremal Toman has a
different register of his voice. I'm
pretty sure this is the voice of Marvin
Jones III who's playing Tombstone. Weird
that you would feature his voice
throughout the trailer without like
showing his character or or establishing
why he's so important to Peter Parker in
the story. Um, we don't know who the
real villain of the story is. If it's
just Trel Tilman as this government
authority who is hunting down Satie
Sink's character or if it's just like a
a combination of a lot of these
characters. But I think the key word in
this is mutate. The fact that it comes
from our resident scientist Bruce Banner
specifically in this trailer um saying
the word mutate in the trailer is not an
accident. Like guys, I'm telling you
like and and they say mutate. They're
not going to say that Peter Parker is a
mutant a n cuz I think obviously that's
that's not exactly what Peter Parker is.
But in the pages of the Marvel comics, a
lot of people have an understanding that
like Peter Parker while we is not a born
mutant with an exgene. He does have this
mutate at quality that um likens him
with the mutants. Specifically during
House of M when Wanda Maximoff creates
that alternate universe, he is
considered with the upper class of
whatever the superenhanced people are,
which is mostly mutants in that world.
So he's not a mutant, but I think
they're going to use this movie to kind
of explain how this works. And uh this
theory, this hairbrain theory that I've
been referring to is uh is
how do the mutations come about? Is this
like an adaptation? Um
is this something that
uh sorry, I just want to make sure it's
all good. Um, is this like an adaptation
that is brought about by some natural
events that all these characters are
about to go through? By that I mean the
incursions of Doomsday and Secret Wars.
Um, do certain people with X genes in
their genomes have an ability to sense
what's about to happen and that is
bringing about their mut mutant powers.
That could be as valid of a reason as
anything else. Like in um in X-Men First
Class, they imply that like the nuclear
age brought this about. Uh in in the
first X-Men film in 2000, I think
Charles Xavier says something like this
is just a natural course of evolution.
There was that line in 2012 Avengers
where like Thor mentioned that like
Earth signaled by tampering with the
tesseract that it was ready for a higher
form of war and that's what brought
about like the forces of Thanos and Loki
and the Chitauri. A similar thing could
be established in this movie that like
Bruce Banner is saying that characters
like Spider-Man and other characters who
might have dormant ex genes are just
like signaling uh through or just the
environment that they're in is telling
them like hey you need to be more
equipped for what's coming. So
hope you're not in the most awkward day
of puberty that you're in because you're
about to have optic blasts coming out of
your eyes or ice powers or this ability
to hop your consciousness. And maybe Gan
Gray is like the first one of the first
people to really have that happen
because she has the Phoenix force who is
detached from reality who can kind of
see all this happening. Camala Khan was
able to activate her mutant power
specifically because it was a
combination of other things through the
Bengal from the nor dimension uh nor
dimension through her maternal ancestry
etc etc. Neymar had the specific events
of his mother drinking a version of the
Caribbean heart-shaped herb while she
was pregnant with him. Um, I I know
we're covering a lot of ground here. Um,
uh,
Jamie, I'm not sure what you mean by
your question. Do we think this ends uh
with No Way Home not fixed? Like not
repaired, the memory wipe not repaired?
Yeah, I I don't think they're going to
reverse the events of No Way Home. I
think they're going to build on those
events would be my theory. Um,
uh,
let's see. I'm I'm seeing a lot of super
chats come through. I'm trying to
feature as many of them on screen. Um,
ah, thanks for joining us, Space
Dreamer. How do you know it's Satie Sink
in the chair? I just got here. Well, we
know it's Satie Sink in the chair. I
just think because of her hands. I think
those are Sadie Sync's hands. And I
think we have seen Satie Sync in a
similar kind of jumpsuit uh in set
photos, but the reason why a lot of
people are confirming it's Sadi Sink is
this shot right here. We did see Sadi
Sync in this exact attire with the hood
with that exact jacket. That's Satie
Sync. Now, this is in Peter's apartment,
believe it or not. Um that's all of his
equipment, his his computer screens, and
we know it from the sticky shot. Like
she she's in Peter's apartment. So, you
could argue that it's like she is kind
of triggering this, like she is kind of
getting inside of his mind. The official
synopsis of this movie is that it's set
four years after the events of No Way
Home and there's some kind of like
street level conflict and and physical
changes that Peter Parker is going
through. So, the question is, is this
like a natural thing that he's going
through? Did he make a specific choice
to go through this? Was he specifically
poisoned? Did Gan Gray or whoever Sadie
Sync is playing bring this on? We don't
know. Uh, we're going to figure it out.
Sorry, I'm trying to see other specific
comments. Um,
okay. We have uh Melo Phantom, thank you
for your super chat saying, "Could the
scanner used on Peter be a possible
future piece of sentinel tech used to
identify mutants?" Oh, I hope not
because then it's like Peter, why would
you submit to this? Honestly, I think
what that is I'm trying to find the shot
you were talking about. Yeah, it's right
here. Um, I think that's like Peter or
Bruce's own tech. Maybe that's some
gamma radiation. Uh, maybe all mutants
do give off a kind of gamma radiation
just through their uh genetics. Um,
uh, I am Oh, here we go.
IM1 180 saying, "Where do we think this
story falls within the born again story
pre, post or durian?" Well, I'm hesitant
to spoil it, but I'm pretty sure I'm
pretty sure just the producers and the
execs at Marvel have said this is
definitely taking place after Daredevil
Born Again. And there is a shot in this
trailer that I I just I mentioned it
during my reaction to the stream that
I'm pretty sure establishes it and
confirms that this is after the events
of Daredevil Born Again season 2 or just
like Daredevil Born Again season 2 ends
in just a very odd way where the city
leadership has to be at least pretending
to make nice with certain masked
vigilantes in the city. But I I know
this does take to answer your question
does take place after.
Uh Drew Bog saying big fan fellow dad.
Thank you to the rest of team for giving
fellow dad a place. Uh also how many
villains again? I think we're up to like
four at this point. Breaking down the
villains. We got tombstone played by
Marvin Jones III. We got Scorpion played
by um Michael Mando, Matt Gargan coming
back from Homecoming. Uh we have
Boomerang. We have Tarantula. We have
whoever Sades Sink is. We have whoever
Trel Tilman is. Uh and I think those are
the villains. And it looks like we have
the hand in this. Let's not forget the
hand, guys. Uh the ninjas of the hand.
Insane. But knowing that Destin Daniel
[ __ ] is directing this, like the guy
is so good with stunts and just
handtohand combat. It looks like there's
going to be some kind of prison break.
[laughter]
I'm I'm so excited. Um another comment,
Corey Kendrill. Uh, do you think instead
of some person jumping from person to
person, it could be more about a spider
life cycle like where some spiders have
some form of hypnotosis
where they manipulate their prey? I
wasn't aware that spiders have that
ability. Um, it doesn't look like
something that Peter is in control of
here. like un unless it's something
acting outside of his abilities. I I it
it doesn't seem like Peter it seems like
someone else is doing this because based
on the context of the trailer at least
Trel Tilman is saying that this is some
other entity that he can't even see. Uh
yeah, good question. Does Bruce have the
device on his arm? He does. He has that
inhibitor device when Peter visits him
at Empire State. I believe you can see
it here. Yeah, right there. He has uh
you can see a hint of the green glow.
That's what he had in the Shan Chi
postredit scene and in She-Hulk before
he got ruptured in She-Hulk. Uh, that's
what restores him into human form. Uh,
Rogue Canadian saying, "Is this mutation
allowing him to have web shooters like
the Toby era?" I think that's what this
movie is saying, guys. This is wild to
me that like Peter will have some
organic webbing in this movie. Um,
that Yeah, there's that cocoon that
everyone was talking about. Yeah,
Peter's going to have some organic
webbing. I don't know if it's going to
be exactly the way it worked like in the
Toby era. There's a specific shot where
like he sw I'm trying to find it. It was
in the clips yesterday. Can't really
find it. U but yes, I do think that's
they're saying this is going to be a
natural evolution. And I do think it was
like an evolution that his arachno
frequency learned from working with his
brothers in the last movie. So much
about his suit, so much of what he's
going through. It's not just member
berries to remind us of these past
movies of Andrew Garfield and Tobey
Magcguire. I think it's literally the
bio- rhythms of his body that is taking
him back through these steps of like
having these brothers for the first
time, these adaptation skills. The
arachno frequency is a kind of magic
folks that reverberates through the
multiverse. And I think being exposed to
those brothers taught his instincts on
new ways that his body can adapt to his
surroundings. And I think that is what
we're seeing. That's a kind of
evolution. And I don't think it means
that Peter Parker has an exgene. I guess
a question I have for you all, if Marvel
Studios establishes that Peter Parker is
a mutant, and if people over at Sony,
Tom Rothman, are like, "Yeah, okay with
us." Is that going to feel sacrilege to
you? Is that going to if they use the
M-word, if they label him as having an
exgene, is that just going to be a step
too far? Because I think in the years
ahead there's going to be a lot of
characters where who were not
technically mutants entics
that Marvel Studios may just be like hey
we're going to kamalicon this and just
say that they have that status just so
that everyone can be part of the mutant
saga. Uh Robert asking is this all
setting up for doomsday? I don't know if
doomsday but I do think secret wars in
the mutant saga thereafter.
Um, the meme father, thank you for your
super chat. Say maybe we could get a
mention or reference to the spiderverse
or web of life. Yeah, that's what I'm
kind of saying. I don't know. I I don't
know if they're going to say the web of
life in Destiny or the Spider-Verse. I
don't think this will be a multiverse
story, but I do think Peter's going to
mention having those other guys from
other worlds who just like impacted him.
Um, let's see. What are the shots
signifying at 208? Are they shots in the
montage? Like moving photography? Oh, I
think I know what you're talking about.
Yeah. So, I think this is going to be
part of a sequence. This is something we
talked about yesterday. Obviously,
recreating Amazing Fantasy 15 from 1963,
these kind of slow motion shots. A lot
of people think the haze and the smoke
and the overcastness of New York City
means that this is set during the events
of the Thunderbolts final battle and
that this is where we're going to see
Florence Pew and that Peter Parker is
going to be affected by what the Void
Century did and sent back to his most
traumatic shameful memory, which could
include the death of Aunt May, the death
of Tony Stark, maybe even the death of
uh Uncle Ben. Uh, I don't know about
that, but I do think the this is like
based off of my experience, the kind of
stuff that often does not show up in the
movie at all. All right. I do think
characters Oh, look at look at his
boots. Oh, man. So, yeah, seeing
tarantula and boomerang in these shots
is very fun. Seeing the hand in these
shots, uh, I do think we are going to
see this prison break sequence with the
hand. Whatever is going on here.
Um,
sorry I didn't get to the Sooner Hatchet
film saying I get that, but I uh would
rather have a mutant that would has
something with Spidey because Gene and
Spidey, as far as I know, has nothing to
do with Spidey. Not nothing to do with
Spidey, but I get it. Not as much to do
with Spidey as someone like Screwball
does. But I do think as much as
Spider-Man is kind of a pivotal central
character to the full Marvel world, you
could argue that any major Marvel
character has some connection to
Spider-Man. He's just crossed over with
so many of them uh so many times. Uh
meme father, thank you for this other
super chat saying a gene gray
introduction would be interesting. Yeah.
Um
yeah, thank you for uh your
contribution. Divian saying I love your
work. Been following since day one. What
do you think about the man spider arc? I
don't think man spider is going to be a
big part of this. A lot of my thinking
is if a character shows up in um in
Spider Noir coming to Prime Video and
MGM Plus in May, I don't think they're
going to be that big or that involved in
the plot of Brand New Day. So that
includes like Electro Sandman, Mr.
Negative. I think those I I I mean Sony
is kind of looking at both of these and
I just don't think you would have two
different versions that are like
in different screens that Sony is trying
to get us to watch around the same time
in the same summer.
Um agreed Cameron Craraven saying that
the swinging around on the roof is
beautiful. It is just stunning. like
these shots. I might be wrong, but I
think we haven't seen Tom Holland suited
up as Peter Parker on a rooftop uh in
live action like this, like on top of a
roof, suiting up and then going into his
action. Like, we've seen him like
swinging around from scaffolding and
stuff like that, but just like the
skyigh Peter Parker here, uh it just
feels so right. It feels like he's he
really is taking the best of all the
worlds of the Andrew Garfield in the the
Toby Magguire version. Um
Hunter saying, "Oh, look at where he's
looking hanging from the cocoon shot.
He's getting 100% getting organic
webbing." Yeah, I think I think I agree,
man. I think like the the fact that he
just woke up in this cocoon and doesn't
seem to remember how he got there and he
can't initially and he tries to do it
here like naturally without his web
shooters. Like something's going on
there. Uh, Rogue in the restaurant he
face plants on.
Maybe you're talking about the bus
later.
I'm trying to see exactly what you're
talking about.
Yeah, I think that's a bus. Um,
oh, I hear was with a New York Jets
shirt. [laughter]
Maybe. I see what you're saying with the
hair thing. Uh, maybe if if this is how
they introduce Rogue, how funny would
that be? Uh, I I don't know because
here's what I I've noticed. There was a
girl wearing like um what we all thought
was Gwen Stacy in Endgame, right? Just
because she wore a Hot Topic webbing
pattern skirt, she could just have very
cool hair. Uh but man, if if they
introduce Rogue in this movie, too,
I won't say no to that. I love that
observation.
Um
Oh, we already talked about that. Um so,
Carolyn, thanks for your super chat.
Unfortunately, I don't know if if Mr.
Negative will be in the movie. I think
uh I will say when I started hearing
stuff about this movie, I was like,
"This sounds like a perfect opportunity
to introduce Martin Lee, especially
since we saw the Dark Force in Wonderman
and he's such a cool looking character.
It's like kind of a no-brainer. Put him
put him in a movie, Sony. But we are
going to see him in Spider Noir." And
now that I'm looking at this trailer, I
don't know if you need Spider or if you
if you need Mr. Negative in this. Um but
I I think we would have heard about it.
We would have heard about it.
R squared online saying, "What if the
natural spider mutation is not caused by
mental invasion of gene? What if the
symptoms we see are effects of an
incoming incursion?" Yeah, that I you
and I are on the same aractive
frequency, man. Like I I really do think
it's I don't know if it's Gene who
causes it, but it's just kind of a
natural adaptation to one's
surroundings.
Um, speaking of Scorpion, who's on
screen here, the meme father saying, "I
hope they give Scorpion the mask
helmet." Um, his suit's already pretty
mechanized here. And Michael Mando is
making the most of it.
I don't know if he needs the mask. I
think the tail really sells it. How do
you get this gear is really the
question. Like, who's hooking him up
with this? How do he get out of prison?
Was there some other kind of criminal
entity?
Was there a a breakout from the DODC to
steal a lot of past weaponry that we've
seen from either uh Adrien Tomb's crew
or Stark Techch to help build this
stuff? A lot of questions I have about
this saying what's up with Peter's eyes
in the prison.
Trying to find the moment you're talking
about. Oh, here. Yeah. Right. So, I
think this is maybe people are saying
man spider's coming about, but this is
also part of physiological adaptations
that he's having. Um,
yeah, because it's there's something
dark and red and sinister happening in
his eyes. But I don't think he's getting
it could be this could be like if she is
Gan Gray, the phoenix going into his
brain and messing with him. Hey, Fit Dad
CEO. Hey Dave. Uh, saying, "Did we talk
about the sign behind Peter in the
beginning?"
Trying to see what you're talking about.
I've seen a lot of signs throughout
Peter throughout it.
If it's this one, no credit given. I
like the meta quality of like he doesn't
get any credit for helping get his
friends in MIT.
Uh,
everyone go follow Fitad CEO on
Instagram and other social platforms.
He's like one of the nicest, funniest
dudes who makes amazing content. Ah,
desktop revealed.
Uh, Mean Jackal saying with the
connection to Spider-Man's evolution.
Could it be Shatra, Calypso, or maybe
even Spider Queen? They all have some
form of mental ability. You're not
wrong, mean jackal. I I just think
they're going to get a bigger A-lister
name if she's going to be coming back in
Secret Wars. That's the reason why I
keep drumming the the Jean Gray drum.
Um
Omar saying, "Do you think Daredevil is
in that final shot of Spidey versus the
hand? Are they just hiding him
digitally?" Oh, I love this kind of
speculation. Let's take a look.
Oh, like this is like when they hid
Andrew Garfield Spider-Man when he was
kicking the lizard and they painted him
out. God, I hope so. This strikes me as
another shot of a another trailer shot
that just could be not in the movie at
all. Um, so where do you think he would
be? Here? Do you think he'd be here? Do
you think he'd be like over here in the
distant background? Would he be down
here? No, I think he'd be like jumping
with him. Uh, honestly, I hope they
painted out Hulk. I hope they painted
out Punisher and Daredevil and Shanqi
and that there's like five of them.
Let's see. Six on this side. So, we need
another six on our side. Uh, Miles.
Um, Sean McCra saying, "Could all this
be side effects of from Venom fusing?" I
don't think Venom's going to be a big
part of it. Uh, oh, automatic lights
came on. Hold on one second. I'm going
to turn off the lights because I don't
like the overexposure.
Guys, the blue dungeon has to be a
dungeon. You can't just like have too
many lights coming on in the dungeon. It
ruins the whole thing. Uh yeah, I don't
know if Venom's going to be part of it.
I think that was like a Sony thing at
the end of No Way Home to set up Venom:
The Last Dance. Someone's saying an
awful lot of Daredevil references. I
mean, yeah, Punisher, the Hand. You're
not wrong.
Uh oh, I like this theory from you all
tricks. Thanks for your super chat. I've
seen some people say that they think
Brand New Day takes place during
Doomsday, but I think Doomsday is too
big for Brand new Day to take place at
the same time. I think you're right. I
think Doomsday is going to be so
cataclysmic. There's going to be a big
ass planet in the sky. The atmosphere is
going to start to evaporate. Hard hard
to make this a street level story if
they're taking place at the same time.
Why poss? Is this going to be a Sinister
6 story or just different villains in
different parts of the movie? Will they
team up? Yeah, I think anytime you have
multiple Spider-Man villains in a movie,
people just default to thinking it's
Sinister 6. I get I get that thinking. I
um I don't know if that's what's going
to happen. I think I don't know why Sony
could never figure out a Sinister 6
movie. At one point, Drew Goddard, the
guy who wrote the script for Project
Hail Mary and will be, yes, will be
directing the next three Matrix films.
Those are happening. Was going to be the
guy to do a Sinister 6 movie after The
Amazing Spider-Man 2014, but there's a
lot of reasons why Sony just pivoted
away from that, and that's just not
happening anymore. Um kind of a bummer.
Um, Corey, thank you for your other
super chat saying, "I think the organic
webbing, it will be organic webbing. I
think uh it's stronger." And that's what
we see when he slingshots and screams
across the building. Yeah, there is
another shot where he definitely is
wearing the spider suit. I'm going to
try to find it for you guys where he
totally is slingshotting himself and
there are no web shooters. Like maybe
even here.
No, there's some web shooters there.
We talked about this a lot on
yesterday's stream, but certainly ah
background revealed.
Web shooters there, guys. I don't know
why this happening, but you know which
one I'm talking about. No mask during
the ninja fight. Yeah, I guess you're
right.
Yeah, right here. No mask.
Same task. Uh, I guess the hand doesn't
really care. I mean, no one knows who
Peter Parker is anyway. Uh, Kevin from
Superman giving the other theory that I
think Gene awakens Peter's ex gene. I
won't be mad. I won't be mad either if
that is the source. I think it could be
a combination of factors. Like Jean
could just be kind of this gateway
mutant who awakens a lot of other
mutates and mutants and other I think
Peter Parker is always going to be an
anomalistic weirdo who just got his
powers through this kind of like weird
accident of a gamma irradiated spider.
Um whether or not he has an exgene I
don't really know what my opinion is on
that. Uh but I think he is just so
anomalistic in this universe in every
universe. there's only one Spider-Man
typically in most universes uh unless
there is like a Miles Morales or a Gwen
Stacy situation, but even in those
cases, it's like an accident causing
another accident that leads to a further
more specific anomaly. [snorts] Um so if
if Gene is the one who just kind of
informs him what her journey was and
helps him along that biological process,
yeah, could be how it goes. Beware the
dread saying, "Who was the person in the
hoodie? Was the person in the green and
yellow hoodie supposed to be a reference
to Gan Gray or Hobgoblin? I think it's
whoever Sades Sync is playing.
I don't think it's uh specifically
Hobgoblin. I wouldn't go that far.
Everyone kind of wants Ned to be
Hobgoblin in this. Uh but I just think
this is exactly what what Sadie Sink was
wearing in some set photos.
Um, Merkco saying, "I think testing that
line making Peter think he might be a
mutant is compelling, but comics have
established he's something different."
Yeah agreed.
Um,
asking if Satie is Typhoid Mary. I don't
think so. I don't think they're going to
make Typhoid Mary on the billing of
Secret Wars, but Typhoid Mary, actually,
Typoid Mary made her first appearance in
2005's Electra, if you can believe it.
First oncreen appearance. Mario Anthony,
do you think the end stinger implies Ned
either remembers Peter or befriends him
again? Do you think there is an
understanding glance between the two?
Let's take a look.
>> I don't know.
I don't think there's an understanding
glance.
Um,
but I I do think they're all clearly
obsessed with Spider-Man. Um, I want to
know like the fact that Peter moved in
across the hall is what I find
interesting. He's not going to MIT. He's
at Empire State. Or maybe he's not even
a student there. He just grabbed a
hoodie and went into uh his classroom.
Joey Mask asking that same question. Was
that Rogue on the bus? I I would love it
if it was. Um, Felix saying, "What are
your thoughts on how Banner will become
the Hulk?" Sadie Peter, what do you
think? How Well, I think Banner was
always the Hulk and I think he uses this
he has this inhibitor device that makes
him human again. But yeah, maybe Oh, I
hear what you're saying. Like maybe this
same adaptation process brings back the
Savage Hulk or brings in the Greyhulk
iteration of the character. Yeah, I I
think everybody who has any kind of
enhanced ability that was caused through
either some radiation means or genetic
means or some other kind of like
not like pseudo magical or sci-fi way
are going to have some um adaptations
triggered and they're all going to go
through changes.
Dale Dragon Tale says, "Farf theory. The
scene with the smiling possessed people.
What if that's symbiote hopping to
person but uh the FX have not been
added?" I don't think they would show us
a shot that significant without the VFX.
Um, but man, I like how people are
trying to keep Venom alive. Like,
he's still out there. Uh, and there was
some weird plan from Venom: The Last
Dance where they wanted to imply things
about the MCU based off of what happened
at the end of No Way Home. Shay Potter
saying, "I think this having to do with
mutation. That's why Gan Gray is in
this. And the fact that she's a telepath
makes me think we're getting Shadow
King. What if Shadow King pops into
Bruce? I love where you're thinking,
Shay. I We don't know for sure if it's
Gan Gray. I have to keep saying that.
That hasn't been confirmed yet, but um
we did get the word mutate in this
trailer. That's significant. Um and if
you're going to do a proper mutant saga,
you do need to have an Amal Farooq. You
need to have a Shadow Kang. I encourage
everyone to go watch Legion. Uh
Amalfaruk is one of these fascinating
fascinating super powerful psychic
mutants that locks uh in battle with
Charles Xavier back in the early 20th
century. Um and and basically infests
the mind of Charles Xavier's biological
son, David Holler, Legion. Uh,
I don't know if the general Marvel fan
base and and average viewers who see
this movie are ready for for Shadow King
in this movie, but if that's something
they want to bring about in the mutant
saga, I'm here for it. Is the hand
setting up Iron Fist? Uh, I don't know.
I don't know, Alfie. I don't know if uh
Danny Ran's going to make it in this
movie.
Uh, Sand Snake Light saying, "What if
Peter is mutating due to Scorpion Sting?
Could be gamma powered suit like your
friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. That's
why he goes to Bruce. Maybe. Oh,
perhaps.
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be
Scorpion Sting. I think it's going to be
maybe that in combination with a lot of
other things.
Enough said. New York. Uh, do you think
they'll do a montage of Peter fighting
some of his classic villains like they
did in the Fantastic Four First Steps?
Yeah, I think you're on to something.
Um, now I don't know if the hand is as
classic of a Spidey villain as like say
Boomerang or Scorpion or um or
Tarantula, but I do think these will be
part of a montage and you might see like
there's there's our rogue possibility.
[laughter] I love this. Um,
I do think the way these are just so
stylized, I think it's going to like all
these feel like comic splash pages,
don't they? They're beautiful. They're
stunning.
Uh, and they might be cut, but I do
think it is going to be part of a
montage similar to Fantastic 4 First
Steps. And people really want Danny Rand
in there. I I just don't think so.
Thank you for your donation.
Yeah, not going to argue with you there.
Um, what if him seeing MJ flirt is in
the void? Oh, that's Peter's like
darkest memory is having to watch his ex
flirt with Ezra Bridger from Ahsoka.
I'll bring up this clip just to show you
who I'm talking about. Manus Fondi is uh
confirmed to be playing this new guy
who's hitting on her. I guess is this is
this going to be like Paul Raven from uh
the more recent comics, like the guy who
like time dilates with MJ. Uh I don't
know if he's gonna be They always cast
some kind of good-looking dude just to
like hit on MJ just to drive Peter
crazy. Uh, the fact that you're at this
party, Peter, and you're not an MIT
student. I don't even think you're in
the Boston area. What are you doing?
You're lucky you're even allowed to
attend the party. You made your choices.
Stop lurking after your friends.
Yeah, I get why people think the voice
sounds like Keith David. I I I just
think a not a lot of people know how
Marvin Jones III sounds. Uh, I could be
wrong. Maybe maybe Keith David is
somewhere in this movie, but we know
it's not Tal Tman.
Thank you, Bruce.
Uh, do you think Tom will mention Toby
or Toby will have a big cameo of Toby
helping him or giving him advice on it?
I don't think Toby will have a cameo in
this, but I do think we get references
to just the other Peters.
Yeah, spiders have three life cycles.
Now, the life cycles of an insect or an
arachnid are not considered mutations.
They are considered just the natural
stages of of a life cycle that any kind
of what's the word I'm looking for
invertebrae might also just go through
from a a larva stage to a pupus stage to
an adult stage whatever it is. Um but
it's more referring to the thematic
stages of Peter Parker's life the
thematic stages of the life cycle. And I
think basically that narration is saying
he already went through the first three
of those stages. So, it means like if
you've survived it, now you're going to
go through some kind of new form after
that third stage.
Uh, hey, thanks for your donation. Oh,
back. Oh, here we go. Dave's back. Uh,
seeing when he falls out of the cocoon,
I think some everyone is assuming he's
catching himself uh from his organic
webbing. And I think someone is catching
him and they're trying to throw us off.
Let's Let's look at this part.
Oh, we do hear a whip.
We don't see
any web now. It could just be they
didn't add it with VFX.
Uh but he does he does gesture like he
wants it. Dave, you just wanted an
excuse for me to go through this frame
by frame, didn't you?
Uh I don't know if anyone's catching
him. Hey, maybe Matt Murdoch catches him
or something like that.
Oh, you kind of It's hard to tell. Hard
to tell.
I love you, Dave.
Um, Sadi could be Silk and Peter and
Silk's connecting Spidey frequency could
be something here.
Uh, Silk I would have
I I don't know. I I don't think they're
going to cast her as Silk. I think if
you're casting Satie Sink, you just have
something else in mind. I'm just trying
to imagine what's in the minds of the
casting directors. I don't if if I
disagree with any of you guys' theories,
please don't feel like I'm shutting down
your theories. I didn't work on this
movie. I I don't know any more than you
guys do what's happening. I I'm just
trying to I've done this for long enough
that I've I'm trying to control my
expectations on like how these how these
screenwriters, directors, and studio
heads really craft these stories and pro
and actually cast them. And and so I'm
just trying to like hedge my bets a bit.
Uh, Frto seen pictures of Spider-Man in
the background of MJ's apartment. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's some
kind of like fanboying that's happening
with Ned and MJ. Or maybe this is kind
of a beautiful thing that like even
though they forgot who Peter Parker is,
that they're still trying to like
there's something that's guiding them to
try to reconnect with their friend. Like
that look of recognition that MJ had at
at the doughut store, the cafe at the
end of No Way Home, I think is kind of
setting up where MJ is here. She has
some kind of like that's what love is.
It it does guide you to where you're
supposed to go. It we all kind of have a
spidey sense that connects us with the
person we're supposed to be with, I like
to believe. And I think that's what
what's guiding MJ.
Uh Duke weighing in on that. Uh he
thinks the whip is an organic thing. We
just didn't necessarily see it yet in
this trailer shot. Uh Jonas saying, "I'm
looking forward to this movie more than
Doomsday. Is that crazy?" How do you who
do you think is in charge? I think it's
okay to be more excited for this in
Doomsday just because we're getting some
real marketing for this. Um, and I think
we now have a clear sense of what this
movie is. Who do you think is in charge?
I don't know. I in terms of who's the
ultimate bad guy of this movie. I don't
know. I do. You think we saw the
ultimate villain of this movie in this
trailer?
I don't know.
How are Peter and Frank friends? That's
a good question because it seems like
it's a recent friendship that formed.
Maybe we find out in the Punisher one
shot. Maybe we find out Dyl Born again
season 2. Maybe it's just like, hey,
they're both vigilantes who are
operating kind of outside of the law and
they kind of met each other that way. I
like the idea of a livedin Marvel world
where the characters all already kind of
know each other.
Uh yeah, the fact that he's fighting the
hand unmasked. We talked about this
earlier. Weird. It's odd, but they don't
really care. Uh R squared online. It's
an inside job. DODC breaks out Scorpion
and gives him the tech he needs to
capture the rogue mutant Spider-Man. I
like this theory. DODC is kind of like
equipping these people. I think it's
going to be like they stole the stuff.
Where's that shot of the hospital or
whatever exploding?
Oh, it's after Sades sink. His hands
blow stuff up.
Sorry for the scrubbing everybody. Yeah,
here I think this might be a DODC
facility because you see like a mixture
of medical personnel and then armed
soldiers and like it would have to be
like a research facility where people
are being experimented on um where some
of this tech would be kept. There's that
like armored vehicle that's over here.
So I I think there's going to be like
someone who breaks out from here and
steals some of the tech. What's in that
letter? Who wrote it? Uh I'll dig into
that in the breakdown, but we're talking
about this opening shot. H I don't know
why I should learn how to use my desktop
better.
Yeah, I'll dig into this breakdown. But
I think this is something that like he
wrote either to himself or
um
or to MJ wishing that he could send it.
Just putting his thoughts down.
Comic Central thinks Tombstone is
pulling the strings. I think that could
be the case if his voice is in the
trailer. Um Iel saying what is Satie
Sink is playing young Madame Webb whose
hair is red. I don't know. Is her hair
always red? I remember her hair being
like a shock of white because she was uh
Stan Lee's wife. Um
hey uh maybe [laughter]
Peter would have to be in the Amazon
researching spiders with her mother just
before she died.
Yeah, I'm sorry. You sent this when I
was on a different trailer shot, but
thank you for sending it. Storming on
ahead. Did you see the conspiracy board
behind Spider-Man? Yeah. Uh, we talked
about this. I think you're on the same
wavelength as the rest of us. No visible
web shooters in the prison scene. Let's
take a look.
Um, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I
don't see any web shooters there. So
again, we're seeing a lot of shots in
this trailer of just organic wristbased
web web projection.
Man, people really want Madam Web. I
don't blame you. There's something
iconic about [laughter]
about Dakota Johnson. Hey, speaking of
the Sony verse, uh if you guys want to
participate in this, New Rockstars is
doing another live show at the UCB
Theater on April 17th. Um you don't have
to be in the LA area to watch it. you
can watch like a a a remote live stream
of it. Uh and we're going to be doing an
a bridgestaged reading of the Jared Leto
MorbiiUs
screenplay. I know you're like, "Why
would you read that? The movie was
terrible." Exactly. That's the point. We
have to kind of unpack these really bad
scripts for it to be fun and explain
what the hell happened. And if that one
goes well, we'll definitely do one for
Madame Webb later this year.
Uh a link for that is in the description
below. John Wick
Y60. Maybe this even with Jal Tilman
speaking. I feel like he says danger. It
sounds off saying the mutant instead of
that sentence. Love New Rockstars. Hey,
thanks buddy. Um
trying to find the clip you were talking
about.
>> Danger sounds normal to me. Um, but it
could just like a lot of times when you
hear audio and trailers or audio in
YouTube videos, it's just weirdly out of
sync.
Uh, Orion says, "Thanks for your Oh,
thank you for your donation. Justice for
Paul Giamati Rhino." That's what I say.
You're not wrong.
Um, guys, starting uh I'll give you like
I don't know 30 more seconds to get in
any other kind of comments or super
chats. I'm just going to try to uh rush
through as many of these as I can
because I do have to get to working on
the breakdown. Uh I really appreciate
you guys joining me for this live
stream. Uh but we'll continue talking
for like another 10 minutes or so.
Uh Cara Killgrave is a body hopper, too,
though. That's true. A lot of
characters. I'm not saying there's like
no other body hoppers other than people
with psionic mutant abilities, but she's
just like the most high-profile person.
If you're talking about someone who is
coming back in Secret Wars, beware of
the dread saying. I think the scene with
Peter getting flung across the roof is
not because of the organic webbing or
him trying to hold on the Hulk. You
know, a lot of people were saying this
yesterday, too, but not to yuck your
yum. You just do see
you don't you see where Peter's webbing
latches on to and there's no Hulk in
that
shot
right here. See right here and right
here? That's not Hulk. That's just the
side of a building. But I want that to
be true. No web shooters here.
He just slingshots himself like Toby did
on the on the Queensboro Bridge.
Uh any chance of Sady's playing a
version of Wanda that came into 616
during an incursion events of No Way
Home. I feel like Lizzie Olsen is the
only one who can play Wanda. Sorry, I
don't want other variants. And no way or
Multiverse of Madness established that
like variants of Wanda look like Lizzie
Olsen in other universes. I wonder if
Banner will Hulk out in the movie. He
better. Don't just put Ruffalo in the
movie. Give us Hulk. Um MJ is going to
figure out his identity again. There's a
corkboard fully. Yeah, I think I think
she's going to get there naturally just
through her own investigation skills.
[laughter]
Um
Sure.
Uh [laughter]
I love how you're thinking. Look, that's
where, you know, Michael Mando, Matt
Gargan's prison cellmate, Adrien Tombs,
went at the end of MorbiiUs is he glowed
in his prison cell and then [laughter]
teleported to another dimension where he
had a conversation with some person he
never met and said, "I don't know what
I'm doing here. It has to do with
Spider-Man, I think." So, sure. Uh,
Joseph saying, "Uh, yeah, the device on
his hand, that's his inhibitor bracelet
that keeps him in human form."
I'm done with Smart Hulk. I'm just
saying that right now, guys. I'm so done
with Smart Hulk. Give me Bruce Banner.
Give me Savage Hulk. You can give me
Greyhulk. It's just Smart Hulk. It was I
think the one of like the few flaws in
Endgame. I I think it worked for like a
sequence, but it deprived us of so many
of the fun things about Hulk.
Fit Dad CEO saying, "I'll never
understand why they don't use Hulk more
to advertise this movie. It's basically
one giant banner." [laughter]
Yeah, the man with the puns. You're not
wrong, Dave. Yeah, totally right. I the
reason they don't do it is the VFX, you
know, they they got to CGI him to look
really good and better than we've seen
him before and they want to make sure
that they get that right and they don't
want to look it in the trailer and have
it look bad. Um, also they put Hulk in a
trailer before and then they took him
out of the movie and I think all trailer
cutters don't want to make that mistake
again.
Is that Daredevil under the big
Spider-Man poster at the end? Let's see.
What are you talking about?
Oh, are people looking at the clouds?
Is this the world on fire that Matt sees
when he closes his eyes? I don't know
about that. Look, I really want
Daredevil to be in this movie, too.
Uh, meme father saying, "I wonder if
Bruce or Hulk might remember somewhere
in their minds who is Peter due to how
he asked what Peter's name was again.
Um, I think that's one way to interpret
what he says.
I think he's more just like,
>> "I need your help. What did you say?"
>> I think what this is establishing is
that Peter might not be an actual
student at Empire State. And he goes,
"Wait, are you actually in my class?"
Because I know I have a lecture hall.
There's like 150 kids in here, but I
don't remember you. Uh, but maybe. Why
are Ned and MJ at a party in NYC if
they're at MIT? Could be spring break,
could be a weekend thing. Peter could be
in Boston. We don't know if like that's
a New York City party, but yes, it's
weird that Peter's there. It's weird
that he's across the hall. Part of me
feels like could just move on with your
life, but if you think that is your
soulmate, I just think part of me wants
to see Peter move on to like a Gwen
Stacy at some point in this life.
Um, but maybe they're saving Gwen for
like a relationship with Miles.
Who do you think is holding Sades
character in confinement in that room?
Thanks for all the hard work. Thank you,
F. Patterson. I think it's the DODC
uh or some other kind of mutant
containment division.
Yeah, I I think we agree. Just pay
Meech.
Uh sounds like Bill Foster. Oh, you mean
like Lawrence Fishburn? I don't know if
you're going to get Larry Fishburn in
this movie. Could Keith David be the
Norman Osborne of the MCU?
I I love that casting idea. I just I
don't think they're gonna get Norman
Osborne in this movie. They should. They
should. Um here's kind of like a weird
thing is that
we already have uh Coleman Domingo doing
an excellent take on Norman Osborne in
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
So, if you have another high-profile
black actor playing Norman Osborne in
live action in the MCU, it kind of I
think
I don't know. I think it kind of lessens
what Coleman Domingo is doing in
animation because it it's saying like
this cool groundbreaking thing that um
that they did for Your Friendly
Neighborhood Spider-Man, we're just
going to do it here in live action with
a different actor. It it just feels like
an odd choice to go. Nothing against Ke.
I think Keith David would do an amazing
job and I think there's a lot of great
black actors who can make a great black
Norman Osborne and MC. I would just say
let it be Coleman Domingo if you're
going to do that.
Uh Boh say next trailer will definitely
feature Hulk and Tombstone when the VFX
professes. Yeah, you got to save
something for the next trailer, right?
And I think that's where you see Hulk
and Tombstone
and people really really want Iron Fist.
I just don't know. The eyes turning
dark, a lot of dark colors in his
outfits. Could Venom be at play? Um, I I
just don't think I think that's a lesson
Destin is learning from like past
things. I think we're going to try to
move away a little bit from the Sony
verse. So, I don't know if Venom's going
to be part of this, the six extra hands.
Yeah, I do think we do see some kind of
thing that reminds us of Man Spider
where Peter grows extra arms, but I
don't think it's going to be called Man
Spider, and I don't think it's going to
be a big part of the plot. I think it's
just going to be like as his body is
aggressively changing, weird stuff like
that is going to happen. Uh,
Sinisterics. Yeah, it would be
interesting. They should do it at some
point. Uh, a lot of people think Paul is
Flash.
Oh, are you talking about
They think that's Flash Thompson at the
party. Yeah, that that's not Tony
Ralori.
Although, is this the blonde neighbor?
Is that an Is that Gwen?
>> No, it's not. Yeah, that's not Flash.
That's Fondi.
Um, I think we should get a reference to
the web of life in Destiny. We don't
need Madame Web in this movie. How do we
think Scorpion gets a suit? Could
Tombstone or Kingpin be the one funding
all the bad guys? Hey, now we're talking
about who could be a big bad. You know,
Denafhrio had made some comments that
like his version of Kingpin cannot be in
a Spider-Man movie. And I and I do think
he's right there. I think there's some
kind of legal reasons why. I think we
can and I think there's just some things
that happen in this trailer that imply
that Wilson Fisk may not be in the same
position that he's in during Daredevil
Born again. Um, but I do think Tombstone
could be kind of a a crime boss who's
who's helping fund a lot of this.
Do we see something dark on Peter's face
at the end? Are you talking about maybe
some more Venom thinking? I think you're
talking about this, right?
Something in his eyes. I think it's just
Jean. I think it's Gene in his eyes.
Your biggest takeaway you hope to see in
this film? Just Savage Hulk. That's what
I want. I want to see Hulk be Hulk
again. I don't really need to see Grey
Hulk. I just want to see a big green
Savage Hulk who isn't smart, who's just
reactive and angry and gets angrier and
angrier and breaks things. If you're
going to put Hulk in a movie, give me
that. That's what I want. Um, so whoever
is called mutant or similar wording will
be considered to be surviving both
Avengers movies can be with X-Men and
Mutants Slater. Yeah. Yes, I do think
that's what's going to happen. They're
going to start introducing this
nomenclature here in this movie.
Thanks for your donation, Leech. Um,
Peter's red eyes reminded me of the
instant kill mode. Instant kill mode
like from his uh Stark era suit. Could
we see a natural version of that?
What would a natural version look like?
Does he just go like berserker with his
six arms on somebody?
[laughter] That's fun. Or does he have
some kind of poison stinger or something
like that? [snorts]
Uh, no. I think I'm going to go with the
theory that this is just gene in his
head. I know there's a lot to scan. I
suggest taking him before the mutation.
Last known activity. Urban traversal
synthetic filament. I think. Uh, are you
talking about on the screen?
There you go.
Yeah, I'll look at all this in the
breakdown to figure out all this stuff,
guys.
Thanks for your patience. Again, that
breakdown video is going to be coming to
the New Roxers channel tomorrow. I need
I need several hours.
Uh, who's the big That's kind of the big
question of this, right? Tombstone,
maybe.
Um, is nature or evolution just the big
bad? Oh, you're right. Power Maker. MJ
is wearing the same necklace and it's
sweet right here. Maybe. Yeah, she's
wearing that broken black Dalia
necklace.
That jacket and sweatshirt looks like
what Eddie Brock wears in Venom.
Not sure. Is this uh the Sadie Sync
thing? Yeah. I don't
I don't know.
It's also what Sadie Sync wears in set
photos.
Explain that people remember Spider-Man
but not Peter. Yeah, I think you're
right.
Uh wait, is the cocoon scene the same as
Sadi with the PC? Yeah, it is the same
room.
Yes, agreed. I think that is what's
happening. Uh, what kind of job? Uh,
hopefully it's related to taking photos
for the Daily Bugle.
Where do you think MJ and Ned fit into
the story? Do you think Remember finds
out who Spider-Man really is by the end?
Yes, I think they're going to be
investigating all of that.
Wearing the web shooter so openly.
Um, maybe referring to a different shot
where he just has them out when he looks
like Peter.
What orifice asking the right question?
I think it's going to be implied his
wrists, but you know, there have been
other theories.
Um,
it just sounds like Keith David. There's
no confirmation that Keith David's doing
anything. Um, but Keith David, Charles
Xavier, that could work, too. I just
love his voice. Um,
for the DODC to act on that, I I think
the DOTC just kind of suspects all
enhanced people regardless of their
genetic codecs because they would also
need technology to scan their genetics
similar to what Bruno has. Now, I think
Bruno is going to be an intern for the
DODC because that kid has narc written
all over him.
Uh, yeah, maybe it is that letter from
No Way Home that he was going to give to
MJ at the end.
Um, I do think eventually, just not in
this movie. Uh, not sure how he could
stop Hulk without the nice help.
Um, yeah, I don't think he could stop
Hulk either. I don't think he's not I
don't think he's strong enough.
Yeah, I would love it. And I think
Kingpin is kind of a natural foe to
Peter Parker. It's just, you know,
according to Denafhrio, he can't be in
this movie due to legal rights issues.
Yeah. So, we'll we'll talk about this in
the breakdown, but they do establish
something about Deritable Born Again
season two with this trailer. Uh Harry
Osborne with MJ. If you think Iman is
Fondi's playing Harry Osborne, I think
Aman could do a great job with that.
Yeah, our man
got some Mark Wahberg gun shows over
there. [laughter] Tom Holland is a very
physically disciplined performer. He
like in he was like, you know, a dancer
in Billy Elliott. The the guy is is so
committed to his art form. Um and so
good for him. Uh I I don't know how he's
able to keep up with that regimen.
Uh DODC equal Friends of Humanity. I
think we're going to meet a lot of
different mutant groups in the Mutant
Saga. I don't know if it means like
Friends of Humanity in particular.
Could Venom be in there? I think I just
think Sony's moving away from Venom
here. U Peter's hand at 114. Is it just
a shadow?
I don't see his left hand.
You might have a different time code
than me.
Yeah, I don't know which one you're
referring to, but I think it would just
be a shadow. If you're if you're getting
at Venom, then yeah. Who do you think
he's a hooded person? Pretty sure it's
going to be Sadie Sync's character.
Maybe Jean Gray. Could Luke Cage
possibly appear? Let's get him in in
Daredevil Born again first.
Appreciate your donation. Um, if I hear
Hulk speak coherently, I will be very
disappointed. I won't rage. Totally with
you. Totally with you. Just give me
Savage Hulk.
David, thank you for your super chat. Is
it possible that the mirror dimension
astral projection when Doctor Strange
makes Peter out of his body resembles
the Peter Tingle?
The mirror dimension astral projection.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Um,
in I think that was the the aractnum
frequency, the the Spidey sense that we
see in No Way Home. And I think that's
still like something Peter has. Uh, but
interestingly, like Peter Peter's spidey
sense didn't stop him from getting hit
by a van
by a Punisher. What? Right here. Why
didn't Peter see it coming? Did he want
the van to hit him is kind of my
question. Um, yeah. So, I think there's
gonna be just certain things where
Peter's powers are just kind of out of
whack.
Okay.
A big Tito band unrelated to Spider-Man.
Could Thor holding Deadpool crying
actually be Thor holding Loki?
Um, sure. Well, I think it was based off
of the scene of Thor the Dark World
where he was holding Loki. Um, I just
don't know why it had to be Deadpool in
there. Maybe making a sacrifice play to
protect Loki in Secret Wars. I I don't
know if we'll ever get an answer to that
question. That was like a a Ryan
Reynolds, Shawn Levy, Zeb Wells question
introduced in Spider-Man or or a
Deadpool Wolverine that I don't know if
the Russo brothers even know is out
there. Yeah, a lot of people think Aman
Fondi could be Harry Osborne. I like
that theory a lot. A long shot. Do we
think it's possible Talman plays some
form of Jefferson Davis or do we think
he's still he's Norman? I don't think
he's either. I think there's some
theories out there that he's William
Meter, an anti-mutant figure from X-Men
comics. I think he could be like a
Striker figure or someone like that.
Um, yeah, it's a good point. We are four
years after the events of No Way Home.
They could be in a graduate program
after MIT. Maybe they're now in a
graduate program at at Empire State
after getting their undergrad at MIT.
Peter needing the symbiote suit by the
end.
um
or the stable feeling of being powerful.
He also helps the theme of being alone.
Yeah, I think it's possible that we see
Peter in a symbiote suit at some point
in the MCU. I just think that's a Secret
Wars thing as opposed to something we'll
see in this movie.
Um Secret Wars, we're still like 18
months away from that and we got to get
through this movie. We got to get
through Doomsday. We got to get through
some announcements for that movie and
we'll know more very soon. Last question
I'm going to answer. Um, Banner is a
professor at MIT. That's how Peter goes.
Answering the question of like, why is
Peter at this party? I think Banner is a
professor at Empire State University.
You see Peter wearing a hoodie that says
ESU for Empire State University. And all
these people are wearing similar kind of
green coated uh stuff. Um,
now we don't know if Peter is an actual
student there, if he just stole his
hoodie. Uh, I think he is a student
there. Um, and maybe Ned and MJ are like
grad students at ESU now at this point.
All right, guys. I gotta get to writing
this breakdown. I have a full full day
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