--- title: 'How to Make Money on Nutra in Traffic Arbitrage' source: 'https://youtube.com/watch?v=lKA7BMoWf-0' video_id: 'lKA7BMoWf-0' date: 2026-07-30 duration_sec: 3189 --- # How to Make Money on Nutra in Traffic Arbitrage > Source: [How to Make Money on Nutra in Traffic Arbitrage](https://youtube.com/watch?v=lKA7BMoWf-0) ## Summary A veteran affiliate marketer from the Drop Team discusses the realities of nutra traffic arbitration on Facebook, including the impact of the new Andromeda system, payment models, and strategies for success. He emphasizes the importance of end-to-end analytics and avoiding common pitfalls. ### Key Points - **Video Focus: Inside Nutra Arbitration** [00:48] — The video aims to discuss real numbers and insider information about nutra arbitration, without hiding behind screens, and to reveal the true nature of the business. - **Primary Source: Facebook** [01:17] — The team exclusively uses Facebook as their traffic source for the last 9 years, despite updates and challenges like the new Andromeda system. - **Andromeda System Impact** [01:33] — Andromeda is a new update that disrupts existing strategies. The team estimates they have only studied about 50-75% of its functionality. It requires constant adaptation. - **Team Strategy: Stick with Facebook** [04:15] — Rather than jumping to other sources, the team focuses on mastering Facebook, investing in expert opinions and continuous learning. - **Finding Experts: Live Communication** [06:46] — The best way to find credible experts is through conferences and meetups, where live interaction helps separate genuine knowledge from marketing hype. - **No Non-Working Offers** [09:24] — There are no non-working offers, only non-working combinations. Problems usually stem from poor approach, lack of analytics, or miscommunication with the advertiser. - **Importance of End-to-End Analytics** [12:24] — Many teams pour money without proper analytics. The guest recommends using tools like Keitaro and developing custom CRM for tracking every step from lead to sale. - **Tier 1, 2, 3 Geo Strategies** [17:29] — For solobuyers or newcomers, it's better to start with Tier 3 countries (e.g., India, Argentina) due to lower entry costs, while Tier 1 (Europe) is more competitive. - **Approach: Use VSL and TSL** [24:26] — Both VSL (video sales letters) and TSL (text sales letters) can work. Success depends on proper structure and understanding of the lead's journey, not just the format. - **Creative Approaches: Indirect Angles** [34:32] — Using indirect angles (e.g., for parasites: targeting a different related problem) can yield better results while avoiding advertiser disapproval by creating subprojects. - **Team Training: In-Person Practice** [38:28] — The team runs a paid, in-person school focusing on practical training. They teach real-time strategies and offer a two-part payment model with a money-back guarantee if the student doesn't profit. - **Earnings Potential** [47:57] — A good buyer can earn up to $10,000 per month in nutra. Gambling offers higher potential but requires a different skillset and more experimentation. ### Conclusion Nutra arbitration on Facebook is still viable, but requires deep analytics, constant adaptation to updates, and creative approaches. Newcomers should focus on learning through practice and seeking live expert advice rather than relying on public information. ## Transcript 's talk about her a little bit. We will mainly talk about Nutra. With us is the owner of the Drop Team, Nikita. Great. Yes, hello everyone. Let's do it this way. Five. Air five. Well, the main thing is that the microphone wasn't broken, right? Ah, hello everyone. My name is Nikita. I have been in the market for 9 years. I deal directly only with the inside. I'm digging around inside, trying to figure it out. To say that we have figured it out completely, probably not. Although everyone says as experts that we know everything inside by heart. We are still studying it, so we are developing and moving forward. We have a large team, we are moving closely with the team, with the structure, but I think that we will gradually tell. What will the video be about? Let's talk about numbers, about money, as everyone loves. Let's talk about inside or is it a complete pain in the ass? It would be better to move somewhere in Gela or to other verticals. Maybe we'll uncover some insider information and hide. Let's talk about the numbers, as they actually are in real life, without any of these screens that everyone hides behind and is afraid to talk about. Therefore, we will try to reveal the nature as it is at the present Okay, let's go. Is your main source FB or do you also feed from other sources now? Only FB directly. We've been fighting FB for 9 years, and the latest thing that's really bothering us right now is the updates that are being rolled out with FB. Well, everyone knows that there is Endromeda on the market, which has come out, everyone is talking about it, but in practice, no one has worked with it very much. We tried to pour as much money into it as possible and study how it works. At the moment, I would say that approximately 75 percent, well, is the realism of what we have studied. And, probably, all these lost And, probably, all these lost remaining 25% there are just some kind of . And we're trying to follow the trends, as everyone dictates, be creative, try not to duplicate companies, don't duplicate, don't clone, he sees everything. We're trying to get directly involved with Facebook, we're going, we're trying, but there are a ton of mistakes. During this period, we probably added, not exactly a minus, but probably about 50 thousand to the Andromeda benchmark in our tests. What period is this for? This is probably a period of, well, 2 months. That is, this is not just some kind of gulf there, but a clear analysis, end-to-end analytics. We looked into why this works and why it doesn't. We went through accounts, looked at the same creative in different verticals, laid it out there, that is, horizontally, vertically, No, not this crooked spoiler. Very crooked. I'd like to ask, you know, there are thinking, "You're tired of discussing this." I've asked the guys so many times, both on the podcast and in real life, everyone says: easy to get through, you just need to upload company 1111 there according to the structure, cryos are not duplicated." And overall, everything will be fine with you. Is this true or is it [ __ ] Well, if you take all the sources that are currently in arbitration, everyone is rolling out that, like, I studied Andromeda, I know how to upload it, there are I know how to upload it, there are 131, 133 ones, in short, in general, I’ll probably say that no one on the market has studied it. It is impossible to study it because there is no clear structure of Andromeda, how it operates. Just no. And everyone builds their own theory. In the current reality, I think we've only learned about 50 percent of it by trial and error. It's unclear how much more lies ahead. And you can pour CBO on units or IBO on units there. It literally takes 2 weeks. Bam, update. This doesn't work. Yes. You try to duplicate companies, it seems to work, but then it doesn’t work. That is, these are some kind of eternal leaps that are happening now. Uh, yes, every team in the current reality has come up with some specific tactics for itself. As they say, I stick to this tactic, but it changes dramatically. Absolutely very If we talk about sources, you say you've been on the market for 9 years, you've been pouring Nutra for 9 years. And during this time, you only pour Nutra code or trials, only leak the code. They tried to spill the sesks and trials. Why didn’t you go there like many others? Most of the market there is also leaving. And I can say that the to be studied, it needs a slightly specific approach. Yes, it specific approach. Yes, it was difficult at times, yes, it is Facebook. These are the moments of updates, problems, and so on. Eh, we are the ones who try to go deeper, to know him. Even if it doesn’t work out well, we look for some options, but don’t leave. That is, we don’t do things like, “Oh, okay, the code doesn’t work, let’s go to SSKI, but SSKI doesn’t work,” let’s go to trials, but FB doesn’t work there, let’s go to TikTok, and so on. That is, we don’t jump around, we try to n’t succeed somewhere, then we pull in some expert opinions on the market, try to improve our skills with them and apply it in practice. it in practice. As a result, we have been working in practice for 9 years now, digging around. Well, as I said, we don’t consider ourselves unrealistic experts there. Everyone in the current reality says that they are cool, but in practice, well, not so much. We And if you're talking about expert opinion, where do you look for it? In general, the looking at some of my acquaintances, maybe you know them too, Vladimir Arbitrage used to be there, and I just wrote there yesterday and was remembering, damn, how active everything was there in terms of community communication. Everyone practically dead. It seems to me that in the current reality, eh, where It seems to me that in the current reality, eh, where to look? Probably the most banal answer. Uh, when you go to conferences, you see people in person that you can talk to. Yes, sometimes it's just a lie that you can talk, they promise you a bunch of different things, that they'll give you advice, tell you something, they'll make a deal, they'll raise your team, you arrive, and it all fades away a little . But in most cases it is not a chat, it is live communication. Here again, where we look for experts, well, as a rule, the where we look for experts, well, as a rule, the market is kind of big, but for the CIS it’s kind of small, and everyone knows each other and you can just come to a to some meetup to chat and understand who can really give you advice and help, and then see it in practice. As for the nutritious treats, what would you recommend then, where should I go? The most banal thing is that sometimes Ava is most banal thing is that sometimes Ava is targeted, it makes sense to go to it. The CIS people seem to know each other, but if you're new to the market, it will be quite useful. Europe, Europe, Bursh is what pumps up, what will Europe, Europe, Bursh is what pumps up, what will really show some level. Yes, there is some water there too, but I would probably aim for Europe for the Let's talk about payment models. You trials, seski a little, as I understand, you tried it and gave up. And from the inside, how are things now? It's just that when I was working with Ntro, it was in my twenties or early twenties, it couldn't be called a successful work experience. Everything was like a roller coaster, you know, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's really shitty. And, well, with the majority of people, that is, 80% of people, I saw good results. And, unfortunately, he was one of those twenty. Now I see the situation as such that 20%, plus or minus, are doing adequately, dying there, well, plus or minus, are doing adequately, dying there, well, some kind of paradise 20-30. Do you think this is the point of arbitration? Well, at the moment, uh, in general, Well, at the moment, uh, in general, inside large volumes of paradise, 40 dash 60 is a lot. This is just, well, how much is large volume? Eh, well, we'll say what we'll say, probably like this. Let's imagine for the moment that I am a buyer and a buyer who spends 20-30,000 there per Ah, well, that's a lot. If we are talking about small amounts, then a buyer that is up to 5,000 is not enough. Well, if there is a lot, then this is the volume that can be shown in the current reality . Well, if we're talking about a small volume, well, yes, the numbers here can be big, rash, because over a short result that can make you doubt, and you're like: "Wow, eighty-three, I'm a success." And if it’s more than a hundred, then it’s a real success, a real success. But since in the current reality there are small paradises inside, it is necessary to increase the volume. Why is the code, as you said, divided 80 by 20? I can say that in the current reality, everyone there is a scam, everyone is working. There are no non-working offers, there are only non-working combinations. As a rule, the problem is not in the offer, the problem is not in the buy itself, or in the team, and in the approach. Let's look at it this way. If you dig deeper, sometimes many people try to get started with a small investment, but don't take the time to learn the technical knowledge to see how leads come in, where they go, where the losses are, and so on. That is, analytics and end-to-end analytics are very important in the end-to-end analytics are very important in the current reality. And then, why does the code work on the market? Well, there are some pretty cool scams based on the code that are private and not public. That is, if you are a buyer, well, don’t take the public, try to find this exclusive for yourself. Sometimes many people confuse that a private offer is private only for you. That is, they can give you a suspended sentence, and the private offer to everyone." Writes that . Well, it’s like an exclusive, which they say, that only for your team we will do everything individually. You will earn conditions only for that the neighboring team has the same conditions and earns the same money as you. Maybe even higher. Uh, sometimes it happens like that, because when you compare and think, wow, with my, with my, more precisely, economy, uh, with my own paradise, I earn money, then you just talk to a colleague, with some honorer or Bayer, and he tells you that the same offer earns more, because he has a better rate, he has a call center that processes it, not the one that ours does, and the proof is better, and so on. Ultimately, in proof is better, and so on. Ultimately, in today's reality, what's important is probably the frequency of the offer, which is what's called privacy, if it's private. If this is a public page, then the efforts of the link, most likely, the offer is working, but your approach is not working . Ah, well, if we go into more depth , then this is analytics. You need to watch how the line comes in, how it is processed, how it comes out. That is, all these how it comes out. That is, all these processes really need to be studied and improved, because many teams think that they are successful at every stage and everything is fine for them. Actually, no, uh, as strange as it may sound, as they say, it's not an advertisement, but there is a to neural networks, or something like that, yes, and the guys are doing quite good analytics. This is just super cool. Of course, develop it, embed it under any trackers, script it, you can install your own trackers, script it, you can install your own CRMK, that is, view all the steps. But there super, pretty cool analytics. There are some downsides that we are also currently trying to find in the process, but this is important. And when working there with any product, focus on how you fill the traffic, where it goes, and where it comes. It same time, when I look at the arbitration teams, there are some pretty big ones, uh, visceral ones, and they're making money, they're doing well, but at the same time, they're just pouring money into nothing. What do I mean ? They took, okay, they changed the picture of some guy on Lenda to some granny, and maybe they changed the hat, yeah, on Lenda or on Lenda or Priland. And that's it, the work is finished. They'll look at Kitara, yes, how many people have spent time on the site, and that's all the analytics. As strange as it may sound, probably 50% of the and pouring. Well, for some people, yes, it’s going well and they’re yes. I think I'm making money from this, yes, I took the offer, I was lucky from the start. Many don't go into development, don't build promotion departments there, don't build cool technical staff there to help, and so on. They just take a splice, take a bundle, roll the bundle, and it works. It doesn't work, I'm going to the on. Listen, how relevant is this scheme now? When you go to spam, see some cryos there on some Redd Slim, cryos there on some Redd Slim, Europe, take the product approach, copy it exactly . Uh, as strange as it may sound, many guys say it works, we tested it ourselves, but it’s too much. This is such an overkill that you can roughly go through 20 connections that you will see in the solder. You'll get one, but if you recalculate the test economy, you'll see that you've flattened one, but how much have you minus? Got it, right? If you look at the long term, what you will be pouring, it will, let’s say, bring you some kind of budget and so on. But again, if you find it, everyone will find it. Yes. There is such a thing that the same connections, if they are spilled, then you compete, then you knock it down, it does not survive, and you rewrite it. You know, I'd also like to ask about Fer. I just touched on this topic. And since you've been on the market for a long time , you probably see that for 9 years, okay, let's say 10, yes, there was some kind of slimming offer in 2016-215, yes, a kaketa diet, there's macha, that kind of thing, that now it's all the same, and for the same regions, and the packaging hasn't changed. Tell me, why don't affiliate products replace these offers? People are probably sick of this. Well, I can give a banal example. In life we ​​use charcoal, procetamol, and mizim. There is the same system that mizim. There is the same system that operates locally on each site. And yes, there is an audience that says: "The same leads, ugh, like, come on, repackage, do something new." And there are those who say: “Oh, this works, well, like, end.” This is your message: some part of the audience is changing, some don't care at all, and some, on the contrary, would be in different packaging. That's right. And most likely this is why every affiliate program operates. Like: "Well , if it's stable, why should I change it?" But we will create some new ones and try them out. If they go wrong, then, well, let's leave what works. That's probably why current realities work this way. The only bets are that they rise, fall, rise again, fall again. Well, everyone is trying to get started with the new Geo. That is, it’s like we’re doing great with lots there, but we’ve brought it to Europe to try it out and so on. everyone is playing. But if we touch on the scam, stability, and so on, then, when you browse all the affiliate programs, you essentially see the same other. There is something about in-house, but it is super individual. And basically, either themselves love it, and then it somehow gets rolled out into the public. And therefore, probably, stability, the basis, there is income from the affiliate program, they like it. From the outside, advertising likes it, so no one bothers about farting. Or there were attempts, but they were unsuccessful, most likely . So, because we also came across the fact that we went to some products, they were supposedly repackaged, everything was beautifully packaged, but sometimes the price there also changed, there was a conditional plus 10%, and this audience has a very strong influence. Well, like they don’t need new packaging that’s 10% more expensive, they need the old one, This is true. And if we're talking about regions, which ones are worth paying attention to now? I see that many people are now actively hammering away at Latin America. And here, probably, as an owner, I will say for solo fighters or in a team of fighters, that the majority of them need to be watched at tier 3, tier 2. Why? Because if you're a solobuyer, you don't have a ton of money. As a rule, if you just entered the market, you have little money in your pocket, you need to test, understand how it works, and get a grip on something , you will go to tier 3. And there you can really evaluate this, uh, like your first earnings, there are some clunkers, the same cancellations and trash, to finish your story, as a trash, to finish your story, as a rule. Why is Latan coming now? Because it always offers the lowest price per lead, and you can actually make money from it. And you have products that have been there for a long time. And if you compare it with tier one countries, then, well, it’s pretty difficult now. And what is tier 1? Can you list them? It's just that for many people, probably, in tier 1 or tier 2? Well, I can say that tier 1, if you see any affiliate program now, then, as a rule, M1 downloads and says that we have the highest rate in tier 1 countries. Well, let's take Germany, for example, which is pumping it up. Well, that's why we'll take it? Well, mainly European countries, the majority of which relate to if we take lots there, then, well, it's no secret, everyone is tired of this Mexico, but it pumps money out of it, they make money, and we are also sitting on it. If you take a dash of a country, then sit in India, as they say. India brings in the money, there's a ton of traffic there that can be exploited. All the categories are there, you just need to dig a little. All. I also noticed some of these in the same company. Right now, Tier 3 is pumping up Argentina. I saw, yes, they just started it recently. . They didn't have it. They were once based more on tier 2, tier 1, and now they have pulled Argentina up, including us. We also saw that they have a product, let's highlight it a little. Denofrin, which they brought in, they got it. understand, yes, they are downloading it. We also tested it, looked at it, and now we took it more for the mouthguard, because, strangely enough, as soon as it came out, the mouthguard was quite loose, everyone suddenly pounced, and it turned out that there was simply no product, that’s it, a shortage. Based on this, yes, it flows great, you can also take it. Everyone knows quite well about Argentina that there is Rekl there, who is alone in the market, who moves everyone there, bends three. We need to fight against it very hard. We have an example where we were marketing a product for about 2 months, and we were constantly fighting with it. What was the fight for? The fact that we need to bid a little bit is all negotiation. While this is stretching, we'll have a look. We need to pull the tomoprov a little. From our side, we see how, and from the call center side, we roll out a script for us, how to process it there, and so on. Eh, it all takes so long, it’s all a drag. And whoever we came to, we said: “We have a great approach to a certain product, we’ll take any of them on the market.” And everyone says: "And Argentina, and there's this ad." Well then no no no go watch something else . So, yes, KMA are great. How they have occupied their niche now. They took away a pretty cool category and not only the category, but also a cool new product. Well, it's trivial to become a spy. You open Argentina there, and immediately there's Lev. The first thing is that [laughter] The first thing is that [laughter] Yes, yes. All these new ones that they are making now are so tough. I wonder if the lion left or not? Myth. Legend. Don't know. Editor, don't forget about those gray ones. People [laughter] understood, not everyone will understand what we are talking about. Just okay. Dviga [laughter] let's move on. I would like to ask about approaches. If gemla, I often talk about your approaches there, we have a crash here, slots here. When we talk about Nutra, everyone immediately thinks that there are commercial ones, teaser ones, and medical ones. It’s clear where it comes from, because a thousand articles have already been written there. But maybe there is something even more interesting. I'm looking right now at some funnels entering the Vistula . Someone, like I Irishman in November. He says: "Well, for me, on the contrary, it all went really badly. You listen to someone, and if I'm not mistaken, maybe Pasha Stupkov talked about this, he'd say: "No, everything's [ __ ] great for me." In this regard, we went through a stage when we started with Veselko , studying. We went to Affiliate Course, tried to absorb more knowledge there, uh, to Benson, studying there and so on. But if you break it down in the current reality, many people know about VSL, but don't know how to work with it correctly. Everyone knows, well, VSL, that there's a video there, you have a form either at the beginning, or in the middle, where you catch, or at the end. Some kind of template, you have comments, which push notifications arrive and a coin. If a person left, he'd be thrown out somewhere on Teselka. But the question is, by the way, we recently touched on such a cool topic. I want to tell the guys I'd like to say a big, huge hello. This is the Montana and L'gama teams, where we analyze bioselka, teams, where we analyze bioselka, also seems to me, you know, they think, if it doesn't work, they think, "Well, that's [ __ ]." Okay, okay. We'll change the first three seconds now, it will definitely work now. Or many come to the conclusion that earns 100%. That's it. But if you dig deeper, there, well, you just need to understand where your lead stops, why it drops out, and so on. There is a lot of structure in this . But before that, probably, when we were studying VSL, like everyone else, we worked Sselka. Sselka is a text-based system, it's still alive and kicking, and it works great. And many teams, as we've learned from talking to everyone there, are making a lot of money on it . We came to the conclusion that if a lot of people are making money on TSL, even though many say it's complete crap, then go with Vselka. Vselka is trending right now. Why is it trending? Because, well, let's say we have a lead scrolling through your feed, they see your crappy statics, they're not interested, but they see a video where you die, something breaks, and so on. They're like, "Oh, I'll take a look." They go to the landing page, they get redirected, they look at the statics on the landing page. Oh, I don't feel like reading . They see Vselka, they watch. So , to retain a lead, they need to be bullied by the bosses, teams, and so on, and keep them there. So, when the trend started in the market, like Veseli earning 200,000 leads, then 400,000 leads, and so on, everyone started learning what VSL was. But both ways work. And to succeed, you don't necessarily have to sit on VSL and only there and think that's where success is guaranteed. No, we have quite a few teams, including us making money on VSL. The main structure is how everything is written, how the link is built. And as I said before, well, there are no non-working offers, only non-working linkages. As a rule, the problem and stupidity lie in who's doing it. Well, that is, if it's not working for you, then the reason is you, who wrote and did it. Yes, of course, you can go to the promotion departments there , who develop you, make things there, and so on, but the message is still yours. You write the basic specifications there and see how it will roughly turn out. That is, if Of course, if the guys in promo worked like bosses, they'd understand the whole thing from the inside. And then, when you make a mistake and are already confused by these structures, connections, going to work, they could cut you off right then. But since promo departments live cut you off right then. But since promo departments live separately, the AERA and the team leaders live separately, there's no such super-cool connection. And as a rule, when sorting through heaps of VSL, there, TSL, the reason is usually only in the person who usually only in the person who creates them. That's all. So my advice: uh, dig into, uh, specifically, different hypotheses, sort through them. Even if it seems like it's not working and your economics are zero, think about whether you're running at a low rate, or whether you're not pressing hard enough in communicating with the advertiser, because sometimes there's a misconception that it's like, "Damn, this isn't working for me, in terms of economics. Zero, let's say, I won't do that. Well, someone is pouring with a rate of X2, and you didn't know that, you didn't reach it there, and so on. Everything works plus there, and you just missed that moment and at the moment of shading these on. Okay. Let's talk about rates. remember the twenties or twenty-first , when I started. Verat affiliate program, perhaps you know, well, you probably know, over 9 years I've definitely studied the affiliate market. I remember, Geo-Italy 40 euros payout 40 dollars, let's say. 40 dollars. Okay. I go a year ago, I look at the rates on the products. The same Italy, give or take the same offer, the same direction, the same 40 dollars, although almost 4 years have passed there. And, it seems to me, there is some kind of inflation in countries, somewhere the salary Some are falling, while somewhere else, a fifth or a tenth is growing. Why aren't the rates on offers growing? That's a good question, that's enough. Why aren't they good question, that's enough. Why aren't they growing? Uh, I think they could be why aren't they growing, why aren't they willing to give back? But many in the markets, well, they're also being inventive, they're inventing things and so on. In the market, inventing things and so on. In the market, most likely. And regarding affiliate programs, there are affiliate programs that are supposed scammers, I call them. You come, they tell you: "We have a product, let's say, for diabetes." Well, let's let's say, for diabetes." Well, let's say, they say the rate is 40. Well, you know, let's say, ah, well, I've already visited six more affiliate programs and there, yes, the rate is 40. They tell you, but we have an individual rate of 45 for you. What's individual rate of 45 for you. What's going on? The rate is really 40. And the advertiser only gives 40, but the affiliate program adds their own five on top to attract you. Well, After 2-3 weeks they'll say, "Listen, well, your traffic is great, but the advertiser says, "No, so let's roll back to 40." But since you've already built up some volume, you've put your team on it, let's say, five bosses on this one, gave them capstka, everything everything is flowing for you, and you're like, "Damn, it's a shame to leave already." Like, oh well, I'll stay. Okay, so the rate was 40, and it stayed. But initially they fooled you and, like, conditionally, gave you a little more. On their part. There's also a second type: when you come, you have two products, on one the rate is 40 and the approval is 20%, and on the other you look, they promise you a rate of 60, ah, but they don't tell you the approval , then you start flying there. This is generally an eternal problem, especially the problem Approval, like average approval. What's this concept of average approval? With all the trash and no trash, why can't you just write down what the approval rate will be per 100 leads, taking trash into account? It's calculated in a really weird way. You have a bunch of affiliates who are Some have a plus, some a minus. We calculated the middle ground, well, roughly. So, for some, it's plus 40% approval, for others, 20%, they calculate the middle ground, and they tell you the middle ground. You click on this offer and say, "Well, it'll definitely work out, since they're promising 30%, and so on." Yes, there's a guaranteed approval, you go for a guaranteed one, they usually give you some backup, and so on. But if you break it down, a newcomer entering the market will see this meaning. Average proof, well, I just don't understand what it really is or isn't. Most buyers who come straight from scratch see these numbers and say, "Damn, why should I run another offer if one has 40% proof, and the second one has 20%? Well, it's kind of logical. And at all. Let's get back to the topic of newbies. Many, if they watch us, start choosing a product to run their affiliate program on, I mean. And how do they get it? First, a guarantee. Second, how do they get a higher rate. No, not that says, "Listen, you're a good guy, we'll give you a dollar higher." Well, I guess we'll start from the start. If you're a newbie, you come, how do you get a guarantee? And if you're a newbie and you come, many don't even know about the grant. Then they find out this information from other webmasters, from YouTube, from managers, they pull it out. And they wo n't give you a good product with a guarantee, because, let's say, it's already somehow running for someone. But if you're a newbie, it might not be running for you. How do you achieve this? Uh, from the start, you need a manager, which, uh, conditionally , specify where More volume, for which offers. The second point, uh, is to ask for a guarantee. Guarantees come in different forms. There are some that don't rely on the total, some that rely on fresh juice, and so on, some that rely on pure [production/ ... Show me your previous stats. If you're a newbie, you don't have that." And you're like, "Damn, okay, okay, I'll try to water it, and then I'll somehow shake a grant out of you." But most of it was just a trade. A trade, probably, between the manager and the webmaster. You come in and say, "Well, should I give you a guarantee?" They're like, "No." You're like, "Damn, I was just there at my previous affiliate program said, "Yes." Although they also said no to you. They're like, "Oh, okay, you have a two- week guarantee. "Come on, let's fly." Well, there's a market here, you need to shake things up a bit , shake things up here and there, and get out somewhere. But in the current reality, there are a lot of partners who talk about products, saying from the start: "Come on over, we 'll guarantee you." Everyone knew when there were problems with Facebook, during all these Andromedas and so on, many affiliate networks were like: "Yeah, it's tough now, come to us, we have a guarantee, we'll definitely give you support on everyone ." That is, well, a good option for the affiliate network to survive, and the advertising to survive, and the web to survive. Before I forget it, I want to ask. So, yes, you said 9 years, that's 9 years of Facebook. Have you considered any native networks, like, for example, We're trying Snapchat, they say it's also doing well, yes, we're trying to look, Watch how others are doing it, test it ourselves, but in super small volumes, we don't say things like, "Yes, no, we'll immediately upload another source." We test ourselves, look at it from a We test ourselves, look at it from a small distance, and understand that, well, if we've been doing Facebook for nine years and haven't fully mastered it, many haven't, then if you go to a new source, you'll master it in a month. No, it'll take you years. Yeah, right. So, why would you abandon the previous one if you have n't fully completed it and start something new? Then you'll lose both here and there. So, although many do this and grow several sources themselves, and so on, we don't do that. And our team's specific tendency is that we try to figure it out, learn it thoroughly, and try to test and understand how it works, because, well, you have to know everything, as strange as it may seem. It didn't sound like that. But we're not moving on. We're trying to get to Zucker's heart and figure out what he's thinking. Everything will be. I'd like to return to the issue of approaches. Yes, we discussed four say anything about what's going on in your team, that you're completely ly. In the current reality, completely ly. In the current reality, we've been taking a rather unconventional approach lately, which is something that many people don't like in advertising at all . What exactly? For example, we . What exactly? For example, we take, well, I'll throw in a spoiler, the team, I hope they won't scold us too much, but there are parasites, which are now operating as a category there , and we don't approach them through the gastrointestinal tract, as most people do, not through papillomas, they're not warts, not through papillomas, they're not warts, not rashes, but if we want, we approach them through, well, normal, right? And what happens on the genitals there , everything is very bad and so on, we approach them through this tendency, and all this flows into parasites. Why do many people dislike advertising? Because, Well, many people dislike advertising? Because, Well, you're attracting the wrong audience, how would it be managed? And from the web economics perspective, it's all very well; you're making money on it, but from the advertising perspective, there are buyouts. But all this can be solved. It can be solved in a banal way. You create a subproject for yourself, and the , right? Then your advertisers are happy, everyone's happy, everyone's happy, and so on, but not everyone wants to do this. Well, that means entering through these trends. And for the last, probably, six months, most large teams have been getting more sophisticated. And they enter, say, you have diabetes, and you have sugar, and so on, but the entrance is generally through monks. Too far, guys, through some topics, like, you have veins in your legs and problems with veins, but no, it's not a problem with veins, it's problems with diabetes. Well, that means everyone is trying to enter now, including us , and most work on a combination. That means, say, your joints hurt, but you enter through rumor, there. Something else. Well, I mean, it's really changing a lot, right? Unusual, right? Uh, problems then arise somewhere with the congregate, like the reekle buyout and so on, but it's solvable, it can be resolved and acted upon. So I advise everyone, consider this option, don't go straight ahead, like diabetes, sugar, some trivial examples, like a glucometer and so on. Try the other side for a little while. And it works. Most of the teams I know on the market now, uh, operate like this and are really will last is unclear, but we're all kind of encouraged. So, it works like this: I'll go through the other side. It doesn't work like that , okay, like your legs will fall off because you have diabetes. Well, you need to try to look at the bigger picture, because everyone usually looks at the splice, uh, they see the connections and see, for example, fears are given to the boil through fear and so on. He thinks: "Oh, I did that too." But it won't be very surprising and work, so you need to go a little broader and just take one category, add it to the second, and mix it up. Yes, that's how And how can a newbie get into an internal team or start consistently pumping money on their own? And when people ask me about this , I always say, "Listen, for example, from FBIill, they've had success there , maybe you've even seen it somewhere, and they have the inside scoop on gambling and so on." And there's a ton of different material on the internet now. I don't know, of course, how relevant it is, but in your case, as far as I understand, you have something like a school, an academy, and it must be [ __ ] gypsies selling something again, damn it. Are you [ __ ] nuts there? Tell me, what's going on there? started. We started like everyone else. That is, when I came to create a team there, I was just an ordinary person before. I started out as a buyer, then grew within the Datiimled structure. Then I realized that I could achieve more there, grow, and I thought about a plan for how to transform it all into a team. Oh yeah, the team was starting to grow. And then the next thing arose: where can I find the people who will actually work, and not just wing it? We're opening up all these recruiting platforms, trying to find someone, they come, you understand the knowledge they put forward and say they're supposedly really cool. In practice, this is all very bad. And then you figure out: "Aha, then And then you figure out: "Aha, then you'll either have to teach them and pull them along, or , they'll limp along, then somehow catch up, and so on." We arrived at this trend quite a long time ago. And not only for this reason, there were many different factors that dictated that it's necessary to create a school, it's better to train people from scratch, and from scratch you sharpen them the right way, rather than retrain them. Retraining people is quite It's hard, and many don't want it. So, let's say some cool buyer comes along and says, "Why are you teaching me? I can do everything, everything is great." He starts uploading, but everything is not great for him. And then a newbie comes along, who is studying at a school, uh, he learned, starts uploading, and his results are better than those of the one who is doing great. That's it. And then it turns out that, well, the knowledge that someone acquired from recruiting is not what it really is. We started growing a school. And we grew a school, as everyone says: "Oh, infidelity, there are so many of these schools, wherever you go, like, why don't you organize them for free, do everything for free." So, our school is paid, but we have this criterion: we don't promote the school, we don't send traffic to it. We have SE, that is, people search through Google, locally. We are located in Belarus, people are looking for traffic arbitrage, it shows up for them, they are already with their pain, well, that is, They come to us with some kind of need. This is a purposeful person who knows that I want to learn, I want to learn this, well, right, true, and so on. Oh, yeah, there are a lot of schools, you can pay for any of them, how not to fall for this infocyganism or how we differ from others. For example, we only teach in person. We don't take any groups or anything. We teach one-on- one. Well, that's how we are. We laptops. We discover all this in practice, that is, we don't torment people with some kind of theory. And a trivial example is how many schools record videos, like like, "Subscribe" I think those schools that record videos, well, they're will no longer be relevant after a while. In the current reality, in a Facebook can update so quickly that the guy who has his own podcast there Or, well, the specific person will record the recordings, and by the time he's done recording it all, it's already updated. So, he gives it to people, people try to absorb it, they sit down , well, they're trying to upload something, they open their Facebook account, and it's upload something, they open their Facebook account, and it's like, "[ __ ], it's different," and they immediately get confused. That's why we teach in practice. Why are we different from others? As the owner, I pump, I pump traffic myself. I'm digging into this 24/7. All our guys are digging into this too. And based on this, we know everything that's going on in the traffic market. And I pass on this knowledge directly in practice, what exists in the current reality. Not some old information or what I remembered there, for example, two years ago, I pass it on. No, this is real knowledge that exists at the present moment. Then there's this thing that, strange as it may sound, all these Payments, there's scares everyone. In most cases, we've made the payment process two-part. The first part involves the person paying, we take them to the course, and I personally train them; we don't hand them over to any curators, sub-curators, or anything like that. That's it, we see each other, I train you. If the person is comfortable online, we'll do it online, and I allow it all. Record them there, make screen recordings, because we're not afraid of that. This knowledge is only developed with experience. So, you can record something now, but in two weeks it might be different. So, it's all updated. And we do it in two stages. The person pays at the beginning, and the second part is their profile. We say, "Don't worry, we learn through practice, we take the scam, build the connections ourselves from scratch, and show you how to make money from it." You're real." And what if you haven't made any money? seriously, a loan. Such situations, such one has asked such questions, yes, such situations have never arisen, where it's supposedly impossible to make money at all. Even if such a compromise does arise, make money at all. Even if such a compromise does arise, we'll compromise. What kind? What do we look at another offer if this one does n't work out. We won't immediately squeeze some second part of the payment out of him and so on. We'll offer different realities. The most important thing is that during the training, we give the buyer everything he needs. That and the budget is entirely yours. . Not our budget, our tools, all the additional services. If he's heard somewhere before that there's some cool neural network that I'd like to test during the flooding, we'll give him. Basically, every new person who comes along brings something to the table for us. knowledge, for me, for my team, and so on. wow, why haven't we used it before?" We're starting to use it. So here we're meeting the need for people to not worry, we'll pay for everything, and they're testing it out. We have clear practice, no theory. And the third point is that we have no deception and all the realism of the market. We've been in the market for quite a long time, like a school, for probably about five years now. We don't have any bad reviews. All the guys who are training, as a rule, we even offer the opportunity to join our specifications, they pass it and then roll into the team. And there are guys who come from other verticals and say, "Listen, I poured a lot and it didn't work out very well somewhere. I want to rub. So we train them and they stay inside. Many teams come, that is, ask. There is a need because we have been on the market for quite a long time. Affiliate programs come and say: " Train our affiliates." They also want to understand how it works from the web side. Not just there, so that only the Web knows about it. So, at the moment we have proven ourselves well, without any negativity. All transparency, we analyze everything on air, we show it. The most important thing is that this is just practice. Cool. So, friends, if you're suddenly interested, watch, read, and read the reviews just in case. Let 's sum up, friends, the first half. Now we'll talk about Gimla again, we haven't forgotten. If we are talking about the gut, this is end-to- end analytics. It sounds clever, but if you dig deeper, I think you'll figure out what it's talking about. And look, this tracker is not an advertisement. Although it would be nice write to them. And the second point is about approaches. We also discussed this. There is no need to [ __ ] what is from the solder. Well, maybe one out of twenty creatives will fly. at best, expand. And that's all in all. There is money inside. Don't believe those who say that everything has long since died. It seems to me that Nuzhevo will appear every year. Well, some of them are closing. Let's not talk about the bad things. And it would be interesting, of course, to ask the guest about gambling. Well, uh, you don’t have diversification by sources, but you do have diversification by, uh, these Vertically, yes. We are moving vertically and trying to get away as well. I wouldn't say that we're really going too far there, but we're kind of getting into ageing and digging into iGaming. No, we're trying, we're also testing, but all the newcomers are basically from the inside, most of them are nerds in that we sit there, shoveling all these connections, coming up with these ideas, are rolling from the inside on the gameplay, they're doing quite well, because it's much easier to talk, yes, because you initially study your target internally, you try to approach it from all sides to make money on it, and then you go into Gimble and, doing one conversion there, wow. And your brain works harder, you because you are inside. Those who initially studied gambling, well, everything is a little compressed for them. Well, it's simpler, you see, inside, if you look, I also remember, you sit, [ __ ] over the creative, [ __ ] with the manager about the support, then with the landing page, whether it is needed or not, with the landing page. While you change everything, you make it so that it is not uniform. how much money partners earn, and whether they can [ __ ], uses the same ones. This is a pain in the ass. I tell everyone that you , as affiliates who make a ton of money on all of this, couldn't possibly allocate any part of the person, the techie, who would support Bayer. Like, you come in, and at this stage you're like, "Oh, you're doing this? Okay. We've got a couple of templates here. You can rewrite them and do something with them. You need help. Okay. We've got you started quickly. Get to work. Typically, sometimes you go into an affiliate program and they just throw you a file, like instructions. 10, 10 years of these landams. They're already looking there. Here, try to put something, you don't know what. Or you just go in, and they say, like, p.s., dude, we'll open a private account for you. They open the same landams that have been there for 5 years, like, Oh, I'm enjoying it. Yeah, right. Yeah. And you go in, upload something like, where's the money? And there isn't any. Yeah, right. That's why it's a cool idea that you switched to gambling. Maybe it will work, or maybe it already is. We're trying, we're testing. can burn? Let's talk. Bayer is watching us. I'm sure everyone's not picking anyone's pockets, but I wonder how much, on average, a good buyer makes per month, and how much, for example, on gambling? Well, here it's as if you need to show off the numbers and highlight them. Well, basically, this is nothing new. A buyer can earn up to 10,000 . That's, well, just normal. Three months, yeah. We haven't learned how to work well in gambling our first experience was actually very interesting. We come to the market, we're going to be betting, we take an offer, they tell us, damn, now you'll go, in short, to Germany, you'll really level up , make money, let's go. We're like, "Wow, what are we doing?" We're like, "Damn, let's go make some PvP." We went, put everything together there. The next point, Chris. For us They say, "We need cryo." Well, all this, like, eh, entering through slots would be better. Through all these crashes, well, not so much. We're like, "Yeah, we're going through these slots, wow, we're cutting this cryo, doing everything, filling up." The budget is like, "Well, let's allocate 2,000 from the start, just to launch it, see." We launch and are like, "Wow, nothing." We're like, "How is this not working?" We're like, " Something's probably wrong. Okay, let's redo everything again, like a Natrovik. We're doing cryo again, we're reworking it all again." We did n't know from the start that inside, you'd say, made 10 cryos, tested it. This works in gambling, it's X5. You just keep churning out these cryos until you get a hang of it, and then you scale it up. Well, you see, the emphasis is more on yes. And from the start, we simply wasted the budget, didn't understand, got disappointed, were like, "Damn, the topic is closed, we'll think about it further, we'll try harder." But in gambling, we're doing it little by little, we don't go straight to the market, we're pouring in a little bit for ourselves, yes. You could say, we're testing it out. Uh, maybe there's success in this, and quite a lot of it, and teams are making good money on it, and the market is growing, like, gaming is considered somehow stronger than nutra and supposedly there's Well, the guys always say, "No, [ __ ], these "In gambling, they steal said so. Well, you can argue about this forever, but then again, Well, you can argue about this forever, but then again, everyone who, well, mostly loudmouths, speaks precisely these facts, they then just switch over and roll over slowly. But we test, try it out on small volumes, and we have guys who also feel it for them, test it. Well, it’s not that kind of money, he can earn up to 4,000, for example, but it’s really hard for us. Well, it’s really hard to roll over from Nutrivai and so on, because it’s possible that for us, well, firstly, this is a fact, there is no expert opinion on this. Secondly, we are trying to somehow learn something somewhere, and in the market it’s almost, well, unrealistic. You . Like, you go in, get stuck, minus and be like: “Uh-huh, it doesn’t work like that. It works a little differently ." It's like it's hard for a newbie to figure out these days, like, where to start, who to contact, so they can tell us, well, this is how it works. We went to one affiliate program, I won't say which one, and they told us, "Oh, yo, guys." Yeah, our internal buying here will really rock your boat. Come on in. We even invested money in this buying and didn't see anything. They told us, "This is probably Andromeda, like, your mother." That's it okay, thanks." Fine. That's why everyone's talking about how great they make money with TamGaming and so on. Tell us, like, where to go, who to contact, so they can tell us, works there, right? We don't need connections, we need good practice in how this reality works. We have n't really realized it yet. We try to learn from our mistakes, spend money, downvote, and try to understand how it works correctly. Like this. Some kind of beautiful conclusion needs to be made, friends. This dialogue turned out to be a bit sad at the end . I thought they would say that he flexes and makes a ton of money from gameplay. But maybe the message of this whole video will be that go inside, join the Team, earn money. You can earn small but stable income. There small but stable income. There will not be those great paradises for 300 p, but confident paradises that you will see. Transparency, where you see the lead who came, ordered, and the call center processed him, rejected him, and then bought him. But in Gimble we're trying to dig around like, where did the player go, to another platform, not to another. The competition is you can spend another two hours talking about all this, which turned out pretty well. At the end there should have been some native and beautiful advertising for KMA, but these guys don’t everyone already knows them. The lion is alive. The lion is alive. That's it, thank you all. Thank you, Guest. Bye everyone.