[00:01] >> Yeah, I think showing that I have completed a boot camp, a DevOps boot camp. This is like a social proof. And also people recognize you, you know, I then when I was talking with interviewers, they they know who you
[00:15] YouTube. >> So, yeah. So, that's good. I I I usually tell students to actually include it in their CV, to include it in the LinkedIn know, okay, you actually did the boot
[00:28] were applying at a technical company, like they would actually know the the name. So, it's actually beneficial. But, it's good to to hear. It's amazing. >> Yeah. And also, yeah, the projects. I mean, you have to send your CV and your
[00:41] CV normally you have a link to your GitHub, so they can see your projects, you know, beforehand. And that, you know, the projects, if you can explain them confidently, you know, then
[00:55] also the certifications, the professional certifications, because I think if you have these three things, like the DevOps boot camp, yeah, it was super useful for me because I don't have a
[01:08] computer science background, you know. But, also I find that they don't really teach DevOps, you know, if you study computer science. So, the if you study computer science. So, the only way to really learn it is either by
[01:21] experience or through a boot camp like yours, yeah, or self-study. But, yeah, if you self-study, it's a bit difficult to really show, you know, that you have the level enough, you know, to work later as a DevOps.
[01:34] >> Yeah, that's a really good point. So, you can't have a traditional degree in DevOps. That's that's current at least currently it's not possible. So, you self-learning or from experience or like a like a boot camp or a professional
[01:48] program. So, you sent your DevOps portfolio along with your applications to kind of showcase your skills, right? Did they ask you questions about your projects that you sent them? >> Yeah, they always ask. Yes.