[0:00] But I think what it is time to bring up,
[0:04] I mean, in fairness, the community's
[0:06] been talking about this for a while, and
[0:08] some people have really strong feelings
[0:10] about it one way or the other.
[0:13] >> We are now 9 years officially into the
[0:17] Game Pass experiment.
[0:19] >> And I think it is fair. I'm not I don't
[0:21] say that in like a derogatory way
[0:23] experiment like it
[0:25] >> it had never been done before like a
[0:27] especially a major first party trying to
[0:29] create by their own words I don't know
[0:31] if they ever literally said this but we
[0:33] all understand Game Pass to be an
[0:35] attempt
[0:36] >> to be the the Netflix of video games
[0:40] >> and it was going to take a lot of money
[0:42] to to pull off and so you know
[0:44] Microsoft's got plenty of that in their
[0:45] war chest. So, we're 9 years into the
[0:47] Game Pass experiment. And so the
[0:50] question that I want to ask each of you
[0:52] is,
[0:54] is Game Pass in the grand scheme of
[0:57] things for Xbox, I'm not saying for the
[0:59] industry, for Xbox as a business, cuz
[1:02] that's what all this is about this week,
[1:05] >> is Game Pass proving to be a mistake, or
[1:09] if we don't want to quite go that severe
[1:12] necessarily,
[1:15] is it is it sustainable in its current
[1:18] form? term whereby day one releases go
[1:23] into the service like it people are not
[1:25] buying games on Xbox we know this they
[1:28] don't even they won't even give out
[1:30] numbers anymore some third parties are
[1:32] even not releasing or very skeptically
[1:36] releasing games and they're not selling
[1:38] games on Xbox so Miranda you first here
[1:43] where do you how much of Xbox's current
[1:48] self-imposed predicament
[1:51] is a result of the Game Pass experiment
[1:54] not going as well as they'd hoped.
[1:56] >> First thing I'm going to say, I still
[1:58] like Game Pass. I think it's very
[2:00] >> from a consumer perspective. Yeah,
[2:02] perspective, don't get me wrong. So,
[2:04] yeah, go ahead. Yeah, it's like the
[2:05] consumer perspective is like game pass
[2:08] rules. Like it is so convenient for
[2:10] finding so many different games, trying
[2:12] smaller ones, cliff, as you're saying,
[2:14] like it's the indies that hold or like
[2:16] smaller experiences that hold a lot of
[2:17] this together in the meantime between
[2:19] development cycles. Uh, and I think Game
[2:22] Pass really lends itself to exposing
[2:24] yourself to new kinds of games, new
[2:26] developers without having to invest
[2:28] much. That being said, I do
[2:32] think
[2:34] Microsoft has put itself in a strange
[2:36] place with how it expects success. And I
[2:40] know they do have some metrics on like
[2:42] how much people play with Game Pass as
[2:45] far as like how much time have they
[2:46] spent within the game, like did they
[2:48] finish this game? Like there are ways to
[2:50] track that.
[2:52] And I think that is informing some of
[2:55] the changes they're looking at now. But
[2:58] I do think at the end of the day because
[3:00] they are so married to the subscriber
[3:03] bottom line as I was saying earlier when
[3:05] they make a massive mistake like raising
[3:07] the price too much to the point where
[3:08] everybody just cancels because it is too
[3:10] much especially if you have the higher
[3:11] tier people who are paying more per
[3:13] month cancelling in mass um you're kind
[3:16] of risking something fundamentally
[3:19] challenging like if you put all your
[3:21] eggs in one basket
[3:23] what are you doing and so I think that's
[3:25] maybe also why we started seeing the
[3:27] move away exclusives, right? So, it's
[3:29] like, okay, if we can sell these games
[3:31] on other platforms, that helps
[3:33] supplement Game Pass in some way if
[3:35] we're losing subscribers. So, going back
[3:38] to being exclusive, still having
[3:40] everything in there, except for Call of
[3:41] Duty because of course that that is
[3:43] another big thing that people buy.
[3:45] That's like one of the things that
[3:46] people buy every year and instead of
[3:48] just subscribing for a month, which is
[3:49] way cheaper than just buying the game,
[3:51] you know, you get the game plus
[3:52] everything else. So, I think they've put
[3:55] themselves in a strange place for
[3:58] financial success, especially when we
[3:59] know like the system in in the race
[4:02] against the other consoles, if you want
[4:04] to frame it that way, is just not
[4:05] selling the same way. Like the Xbox is
[4:08] just not selling like the PlayStation or
[4:10] now the Switch 2, but I think Switch 2
[4:12] is like in a different place, but that's
[4:13] new, right? Um, I think that comparison,
[4:17] which we know that's not necessarily
[4:19] what drives her sales, but I think is
[4:23] part of this puzzle piece as well or as
[4:25] a piece of this puzzle as well. Um, and
[4:29] it's that that hard line of well, I want
[4:34] these studios and Xbox to continue, but
[4:36] I also selfishly want game pass to
[4:38] continue as it is because it is so
[4:40] helpful for being able to play these
[4:42] games. I I think I've said it before too
[4:44] like if I had Game Pass as a kid in like
[4:47] insanity like incredible incredible
[4:49] exposure to all these games and that is
[4:52] something that I think Phil really built
[4:53] on and like really
[4:56] nailed with his team was that they
[4:57] wanted games to be something that people
[4:59] can get into as a hobby when it is
[5:01] getting more and more prohibitively
[5:02] expensive. I think, you know, of my
[5:04] childhood of how many games I had access
[5:07] to simply because of money, like how
[5:08] much pocket change I had to save just to
[5:11] get one game and how long that took and
[5:13] how picky you had to be. And the
[5:15] ecosystem of games access is changing so
[5:19] much as far as like freeto play and
[5:22] other experience-based games that Game
[5:25] Pass still likens to that free feeling
[5:28] in a way. That being said, they still
[5:31] make money. So like what you know I I
[5:34] think it is a challenge for them to
[5:36] solve and I don't know what the solution
[5:38] is like that that comes into a financial
[5:41] point where I'm like that is beyond me.
[5:43] I'm a writer, but um I like I can
[5:47] critically analyze that obviously this
[5:48] is a problem and but
[5:51] because of how volatile like a
[5:54] subscriber based
[5:57] organization like if you're running this
[5:59] massive massive division on subscribers
[6:02] that is like a really hard place to be
[6:04] if you falter. So yeah.
[6:07] >> Yeah. I think the the thing that I go
[6:10] back to is a couple of different things.
[6:12] So, like last night I downloaded Beat
[6:14] Down Survivors. Uh, shout out to my
[6:16] friend New Challenger out in the world.
[6:18] Um, and knew of that game was like, "Oh,
[6:22] I forgot it's on Game Pass. Let me go
[6:23] play it and and check it out and go and
[6:25] I had a blast with it." And then I wind
[6:26] up buying it, right? I use Game Pass as
[6:28] a try it before you buy it space, right?
[6:30] >> Alongside the day one layer of it that I
[6:32] think is really important, right? So I
[6:35] am a person who am looking at the
[6:37] service as a person who is thinking
[6:39] about you know even thinking about the
[6:42] kind of good stewardship part that you
[6:44] talked about a little bit earlier in in
[6:45] the show uh Miranda around like I know
[6:48] that there are there are games that
[6:50] wouldn't have actually been out in the
[6:52] world without Game Pass right
[6:53] >> they have been subsidized by the upfront
[6:56] money that you wind up getting and they
[6:57] wind up bridging the gap between getting
[6:59] your thing made or not getting your
[7:01] thing made right some of those people
[7:04] may not have ever gotten a a a the
[7:07] amount of sales that would have been
[7:09] able to recoup whatever that development
[7:11] cost was for them, right? Then you have
[7:13] the Call of Duties who, you know, are
[7:15] going to sell no matter what you do. And
[7:17] I'm sure that when you think back about
[7:19] like how much money they potentially
[7:21] didn't make by putting it in Game Pass,
[7:23] that might have not been the right
[7:24] direction for where that game winds up
[7:26] landing in that space. I always think of
[7:28] this thing as like one of the things
[7:31] that is missing in this era of gaming.
[7:33] At least this last genre, not genre,
[7:35] this last era of gaming, whatever this
[7:37] last um
[7:38] >> generation
[7:39] >> generation. Thank you. That's the word I
[7:40] was looking for. Was that we don't have
[7:42] a lot of portfolio curation anymore. And
[7:45] I think what game what game pass does is
[7:48] open up a space where you are able to
[7:50] see and play a variety of things that
[7:52] you might not have ever touched before.
[7:54] And it might again do that thing of
[7:56] being like, "Oh, I want to support these
[7:58] folks because they made something dope
[7:59] and I think this is really interesting."
[8:01] Does it wind up hurting the entire
[8:03] industry where we see now some of those
[8:06] folks who are in that mix be hurt in a
[8:09] in a way that they didn't necessarily
[8:10] foresee? Absolutely. But I think we have
[8:14] now, like you said, have nine years in.
[8:17] I think there's a space where if you are
[8:19] now looking at that conversation and you
[8:21] go to Xbox and say, "Hey, I want my game
[8:23] on your platform, you have enough people
[8:26] that you can talk to in the development
[8:28] uh uh, you know, community to be like,
[8:31] is this you've been a you've made a game
[8:33] that's similar to scope that that my
[8:34] game is in. How did you see that kind of
[8:36] work out for you?" And you can make a
[8:38] good decision there to be able to say,
[8:40] "Well, maybe this isn't for me and maybe
[8:42] I need to do the traditional route and
[8:44] go put it on, you know, multiple
[8:45] platforms, put it on Steam, put it in
[8:47] all these other places where you think
[8:48] might give you the most benefit for your
[8:51] potential growth on this kind of game."
[8:53] I think there's a lot of space that we
[8:55] don't know. And again, I I I will also
[8:57] raise my hand and be like, I don't know
[8:58] anything about how that thing works in
[9:00] the back end. You know, I don't know
[9:01] what it I haven't made a bisdev deal
[9:03] yet. You know what I mean? I haven't
[9:04] done that yet.
[9:05] >> So, I you know, I don't know. But I do
[9:07] think that like there are always going
[9:09] to be benefits. I think the thing that
[9:11] comes back to all of these conversations
[9:13] is that we're still talking about risk,
[9:16] right?
[9:16] >> Yeah.
[9:16] >> And we're still talking about making a
[9:18] bet. Phil Spencer made bets, Xbox made
[9:22] bets with Don Matrick made bets. Like
[9:24] everyone is making bets. The thing that
[9:26] we don't know is how many of those
[9:28] things are going to pay off, how many
[9:29] things are going to tank and then how
[9:31] many of those things are going to have
[9:32] to be readjusted for again a a moving
[9:34] target that is consistently changing
[9:37] that consistently changes based on the
[9:39] market. No one knew that we were going
[9:40] to be in a silicon and AI crisis now
[9:43] with with hardware. No one knew that we
[9:45] were going to have the COVID part of it
[9:46] that I talked about earlier. No one knew
[9:48] that Roblox and and Fortnite were going
[9:50] to become the biggest things on the
[9:52] planet and suck up so much of your time
[9:54] alongside social media and Tik Tok and
[9:55] all those other layers of stuff. No one
[9:57] knew that stuff. You know what I mean?
[9:59] So, we're all trying to get in where we
[10:01] fit in while also trying to figure out
[10:03] where things are going to be and
[10:04] forecasting as far as you can. But it's
[10:07] all a moving target and those things are
[10:09] going to the thing that is the most
[10:10] important is how do these companies
[10:12] adjust quickly,
[10:13] >> right? Can you make like they they made
[10:15] that change really fast when they saw,
[10:16] oh, we we're hemorrhaging a lot of
[10:18] subscribers here. We need to readjust
[10:20] that and figure out what that looks
[10:21] like. Now, in in in Asha's uh kind of
[10:24] new space, she's going to have to
[10:26] consistently think about how fast and
[10:28] nimble they can move to adjust to all of
[10:30] these market changes that are happening
[10:32] that are self-imposed, historical from
[10:34] the brand and going to be coming in from
[10:36] all the things that we're now seeing
[10:38] alongside tariffs, alongside weird
[10:40] things that are happening across the the
[10:42] geopolitical spectrum. All those things
[10:44] are going to be tied to the way that
[10:45] business works in the video game space
[10:48] moving forward. And you can't deny that.
[10:49] So that's going to be the space where we
[10:51] wind up seeing the most change. And I
[10:53] think now that they're being more
[10:55] transparent with some of these things
[10:57] and ripping the band-aid off, it doesn't
[10:59] help the developers who are going to be
[11:00] hurt, but it also gives people the space
[11:02] to understand what is actually kind of
[11:03] happening when these discussions wind up
[11:05] popping up.
[11:06] >> You I'm glad you mentioned curation
[11:08] because uh first and first of all, there
[11:11] are definitely there are absolutely
[11:13] there are plenty of game pass success
[11:15] stories. M I've talked to plenty of
[11:16] developers that plenty of them have put
[11:18] out press releases where like they've
[11:20] been huge on Game Pass, bigger than they
[11:23] would have been, you know, without
[11:24] without that sort of spotlight on them.
[11:27] So, I don't want to I don't want to sit
[11:29] here and make it seem like I'm saying
[11:31] that Game Pass is this like complete
[11:32] total failure.
[11:34] >> Game Pass is the devil. No, I'm just
[11:35] playing
[11:35] >> in any in any sense. But when you I'm so
[11:39] glad you brought up curation because
[11:42] th I will if you're playing the unlock
[11:44] drinking game at home, buckle up. Uh
[11:48] this is again like they had a thing that
[11:52] they could still bring back
[11:55] >> called Xbox Live Arcade.
[11:58] >> Oh man.
[11:59] >> To your to your point K when you said
[12:01] that you use Game Pass to try stuff out.
[12:05] >> Yeah. live arcade games. Part of the
[12:08] mandate of the program was that every
[12:10] live arcade game had a free playable
[12:14] demo right right at launch. Like it was
[12:16] part of your certification and
[12:18] submission process
[12:20] >> as part of getting your game out on the
[12:22] Xbox Live Arcade platform.
[12:24] There is the indie select thing now that
[12:26] I get press releases from the PR team
[12:29] every now and again about,
[12:31] >> but I'm telling you, it's just I think
[12:33] Live Arcade
[12:35] could still be useful in 2026 and beyond
[12:39] given prominent placement. Give it its
[12:41] own tab on the dashboard like Game Pass
[12:45] has its own tab and you curate that with
[12:49] editorially minded voices within
[12:52] Microsoft, you know, as it was back in
[12:55] the day where when you know you are
[12:57] getting a cool selection of like four or
[13:00] five games in a given week of like hey
[13:03] here's our it's it's live arcade
[13:05] Wednesday here's here's what's out you
[13:07] know here's what we've got for you this
[13:08] week so I just wanted to throw that out
[13:10] there um but yeah like I I put this out
[13:15] on my social on Twitter the other day
[13:19] and I I gotta say I got a ton of really
[13:21] great thoughtprovoking Excellent
[13:24] responses
[13:26] cuz and the thought was is
[13:30] and I I've started to bring this up
[13:32] earlier and it's is Game Pass. Miranda,
[13:36] you you started to go down this road as
[13:37] well. I don't know if Game Pass in its
[13:40] current form
[13:42] is compatible
[13:44] with
[13:46] the idea of exclusives coming back to
[13:48] Xbox. And again, I'm not for anybody
[13:51] listening, I'm not trying to say that I
[13:53] don't want exclusives back on Xbox. Uh
[13:56] cuz it would be cool to have some
[13:57] special stuff for the platform again.
[13:59] But I just don't know if wi with all of
[14:02] these margin challenges that Xbox is
[14:05] having, their inability to sell games,
[14:07] their inability to sell hardware,
[14:11] can you have day one AAA games on your
[14:16] your streaming service, your
[14:17] subscription service, while also having
[14:20] exclusives because I'm just not sure
[14:23] that you can make up you can make the
[14:25] month the revenue on that work. Like I
[14:27] will say for as a pretty uninformed
[14:32] perspective cuz I don't you know I don't
[14:34] know I don't know exactly how much Gears
[14:36] of War Eday costs to make. I know it's
[14:39] pretty damn expensive cuz they've been
[14:40] working on it for a long time. It's a
[14:43] AAA production, but I I do have concern
[14:47] about
[14:49] the future viability of Gears
[14:52] if the like what's the I guess what's
[14:55] the metric of success for Gears of War
[14:57] Eday when it clearly costs it's going to
[15:00] end up costing them a lot of money to
[15:01] have made by the time this thing comes
[15:03] out, especially when you factor in
[15:05] marketing and all that stuff when the
[15:07] only place to play it is on the distant
[15:11] third place console. console platform
[15:14] and on the thankfully growing PC
[15:17] platform
[15:18] >> like so that's
[15:20] and you've got Game Pass. Like are are
[15:22] people going to sign up for to for Game
[15:25] Pass to play Gears of War eay? They
[15:28] might. But are they going to stick
[15:29] around for
[15:32] three, four, five months or at least at
[15:34] least the equivalent price of what it
[15:36] would be to purchase the game? Maybe
[15:38] not. they might just subscribe for a
[15:40] month, maybe two, and then be like, "All
[15:43] right, I played my gears, and there's
[15:45] nothing else here that I super care
[15:46] about right now. I'm out." So, that's
[15:49] that's where I'm I don't know the
[15:52] answer, but I like we do know Asha said
[15:54] in the very beginning when she first
[15:56] started that Game Pass would continue to
[16:00] evolve and continue to change. And I
[16:03] think they're probably trying to figure
[16:04] that out right now because I just don't
[16:07] see how economically, again, I'm on the
[16:10] outside. I don't know their their
[16:12] numbers, but it to my layman brain and
[16:15] eyes, I just don't see a way for Xbox
[16:20] console exclusives
[16:22] to coexist with Game Pass having Day One
[16:26] AAA new first party releases and for
[16:28] that to be any more economically viable
[16:31] than the than the mess that they
[16:33] currently find themselves in. M
[16:36] >> it feels like they have to reckon with
[16:38] these two paths that they have that like
[16:40] they've went one way, right? With Game
[16:42] Pass multiplatform kind of becoming more
[16:45] of a
[16:48] place to publish games rather than like
[16:51] an exclusive console ecos system and
[16:54] like we have this as an option if you
[16:56] want it. And that's kind of the
[16:57] direction they were moving in and now
[16:58] they're like wait this isn't popular
[17:00] enough like we're losing like fan base
[17:02] in some way. like let's completely
[17:04] change direction which is what Asha is
[17:05] doing but then that kind of is at odds
[17:08] with what they were building for the
[17:09] past few years right and so it's like
[17:12] but how do you like reckon those two
[17:14] ideas and I think the unfortunate thing
[17:17] I think will lead us into our next topic
[17:18] a bit too is shutdowns that is the that
[17:21] that is the reckoning is the reckoning
[17:23] is well this is it working out in the
[17:26] way we wanted financially or how we can
[17:30] like like realistically manage what we
[17:32] want to do. So, we're going to go
[17:34] instead be back in competitive space
[17:36] with console, like the console market,
[17:38] like we do actually want that and PC
[17:41] specifically, and uh refocus how we're
[17:43] doing things instead of being a bigger,
[17:45] wider kind of almost like publisher
[17:49] aligned thing with with with options for
[17:52] hardware and accessories. Mhm.
[17:55] >> Yeah. I think uh for me I think about my
[17:58] usage of game pass in this way and I
[18:00] think if you take day one out that
[18:03] becomes a much less exciting prospect
[18:06] for me.
[18:07] >> Day one is the reason why I have game
[18:09] pass currently as at this point. It's
[18:11] the reason I want it. Um I think the
[18:14] potential fix for them could be and this
[18:17] is probably not right because I think
[18:19] about you know the price of a game is 70
[18:22] bucks. We know that AAA games and and
[18:24] kind of your marquee games are going to
[18:25] be in that space. You know, I think
[18:27] about how much money I've spent on Game
[18:29] Pass leading up to when a release is
[18:31] happening. And I've already paid for G
[18:33] for Gears of Before Eay. If you think
[18:35] about what I've paid over the monthly
[18:37] time that a game subscription is gone,
[18:39] I've paid for eBay already in that way.
[18:41] But I do think the people who are coming
[18:43] in and saying, "I'm going to do this for
[18:45] a shorter amount of time or I'm going to
[18:47] buy that subscription, play through it
[18:49] really fast, and then and then do that
[18:51] thing." That is a worry for a lot of
[18:53] folks in that space. I think that
[18:54] definitely is a a part of that
[18:56] conversation in a way that that doesn't
[18:58] necessarily help the bottom line for
[19:01] what you want it to be. And that's the
[19:02] conundrum that they're always going to
[19:04] wind up being in unless they either
[19:06] remove day one stuff and give you
[19:08] either, you know, if you are subscribed
[19:10] to that thing and you're not uh not
[19:13] having those day one experiences. Maybe
[19:15] potentially because you're a subscriber,
[19:17] you offer them a discount
[19:19] >> and say, "Hey, you don't have to spend
[19:21] 70 bucks on this game because you're a
[19:22] subscriber." Maybe we charge you,
[19:25] >> right? We charge you 50 for it as
[19:26] opposed to the full 70, right? like
[19:28] maybe there's a balance there where you
[19:31] can kind of figure out some good
[19:32] language there which then also again
[19:34] keeps your your players a little bit
[19:37] happier. You then don't have to think
[19:39] about potentially what the the oh this
[19:41] game is going to go to uh you know Sony
[19:43] in this way even though it probably
[19:45] should because you still need the money.
[19:47] Um so it's it's really about just like
[19:49] how do you balance out the value versus
[19:51] what perceived value actual value and
[19:53] what do you think is going to be there
[19:55] for you when you subscribe to the thing.
[19:57] Um, but who knows? Like again, I don't
[19:59] know where they're going to go from a
[20:01] pricing perspective or a space that's
[20:02] going to keep people happy when all of
[20:05] this bad uh, you know, these bad vibes
[20:07] keep coming out, right? It's hard to
[20:09] sell the thing that you want people to
[20:10] to enjoy and be excited about while also
[20:12] saying, "Hey, the person who just made
[20:14] that thing is not even going to be here
[20:15] next year or in the next four months."
[20:17] Right? That makes that much harder to be
[20:18] able to say out loud.
[20:21] So, as Miranda alluded, um yeah, all all
[20:24] of these all of this grim financial
[20:27] outlook and a resetting of the business,
[20:30] which is code for layoffs, uh that
[20:33] appears to be happening. None of this is
[20:36] official yet as of this recording. That
[20:39] could change by the time you hear this,
[20:42] but uh what we are staring down right
[20:44] now are reports of
[20:49] Compulsion Games getting shut down,
[20:53] Ninja Theory
[20:55] getting shut down, and potentially
[20:59] Double Fine getting shut down. Um there
[21:03] could be more, there could be others. Uh
[21:07] these studios, I guess. Let me just let
[21:09] me go through go through the news as it
[21:12] was here. Um, so Compulsion is seemingly
[21:15] the closest one to to actually confirmed
[21:19] if it again maybe it is by the time you
[21:21] hear this, but
[21:23] uh they were founded in '09 by a former
[21:25] Arcane developer named Gon Provost, who
[21:28] I've met, super nice guy. Uh, they made
[21:31] contrast in 2013, which was really good.
[21:35] We Happy Few, which a lot of people
[21:38] liked a lot. I thought it was
[21:39] >> it was an awesome it had so much
[21:41] potential. It didn't quite get there for
[21:43] me, but uh there was a lot of a lot in
[21:45] there. That was 2018.
[21:47] >> Gearbox published that back when Gearbox
[21:49] was
[21:50] >> sort of doing their little
[21:51] experimentation as a publisher.
[21:53] >> Then Microsoft bought them. Uh and when
[21:55] we finally got South of Midnight last
[21:58] year, which got excellent reviews, and I
[22:01] played a bit of it, that excellent game.
[22:03] had had a great time with it.
[22:05] >> Award-winning.
[22:06] >> Yes, multiple awards. Absolutely. It won
[22:09] some awards. So, uh this is Kotaku is
[22:12] reporting that the compulsion layoffs
[22:14] may total more than 90 staff. Uh just
[22:18] months after the studio advertised jobs
[22:20] for a new IP. Now, Kotaku said one
[22:24] source indicated Compulsion leadership
[22:26] is in negotiations with Microsoft over
[22:29] the studio's fate.
[22:32] And uh that's kind of the same situation
[22:35] with Ninja Theory and Double Fine who
[22:38] are reportedly
[22:41] negotiating with Microsoft to
[22:43] potentially go independent. Now that has
[22:46] there are all sorts of like big money
[22:49] questions that have to get answered is
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