[0:00] if you could describe the season finale [0:02] of Game of Thrones in one word how would [0:06] you display it disappointing so Game of [0:09] Thrones just ended and if we're being [0:11] honest it kind of sucked despite what [0:14] you may think by looking at the title of [0:16] this video I actually used to like this [0:18] show I read the first book back in [0:20] middle school which I definitely should [0:22] not have been allowed to do then I [0:24] started the fourth book before I [0:26] realized that I was making a mistake the [0:28] books didn't really have numbers on the [0:30] back then and I got confused alright but [0:32] the point is that that was a long time [0:33] ago and I never could have anticipated [0:34] back then that these nerdy ass books [0:36] would spawn the most popular show ever [0:39] I mean it's so popular that Elmo even [0:41] watches it I think this show is [0:48] definitely a step above other shows of [0:50] its type I mean think about it how many [0:53] fantasy shows even come close to the [0:55] quality of Game of Thrones but the [0:56] problem is this show really dropped the [0:59] ball like it really screwed up have you [1:03] shot your final scenes yet and are you [1:05] happy with how things ended this show [1:19] fell victim to something I always warn [1:21] about bad writing I talk about bad [1:25] writing and like every video I've ever [1:27] made and now that we've all seen the [1:29] finale of this show I hope you realize [1:30] why writing is important because this [1:33] show has pretty good acting some pretty [1:36] good cinematography incredibly [1:38] impressive effects moments of really fun [1:40] editing and yet everybody is mad because [1:46] the writing is bad and honestly that's [1:49] the only thing wrong with this show but [1:52] it's so bad that it really makes it hard [1:53] to appreciate the rest of the stuff you [1:55] know how many movies our shows are saved [1:58] by having good writing hell it's the [2:00] only reason Woody Allen slash a career [2:02] if you watch Game of Thrones all the way [2:03] through from beginning to end it feels [2:05] like everything that was important at [2:07] first just kind of gets thrown away [2:09] the show just morphs into something [2:11] bizarre the themes an idea [2:13] that were once important are now [2:14] completely gone and replaced with more [2:16] generic fantasy tropes something just [2:19] don't feel right anymore and I'm not the [2:20] only one who thinks that so let's take a [2:22] look at why oh and by the way if it [2:25] wasn't obvious now if you're a weirdo [2:29] who's never watched Game of Thrones [2:30] because you don't mind missing out on [2:31] cultural media milestones I'll explain [2:34] the general premise for you the story [2:35] revolves around a bunch of families in [2:37] the land of Westeros Westeros is a [2:39] fantasy land with dragons and magic but [2:42] dragons and magic are pretty rare the [2:44] aforementioned families are all fighting [2:45] one another because [ __ ] happens and the [2:47] King dies and it's a series about [2:49] political intrigue realistic complex [2:51] characters and boobs however most of [2:54] these concepts kind of get [ __ ] up by [2:56] the end of the series it kind of stops [2:58] being a show about characters and [3:00] politics characters used to get by on [3:02] their wit and creativity but now it's [3:04] just fighting remember how I said magic [3:07] and Dragons were pretty rare well not [3:09] anymore when the writers don't know what [3:11] to do we either get magic a dragon or a [3:14] fight and sometimes we get all three at [3:16] once and that's because the writers are [3:20] not very good at writing this show and [3:22] yes I know that sounds a little weird so [3:25] I'm gonna explain the Song of Ice and [3:27] Fire series is written by george RR [3:29] martin and a good 80% of the show is [3:31] adapted from these books and about 75% [3:34] of that is actually really good [3:36] now the show itself is written by David [3:38] Benioff and DB Weiss or has a lot of [3:41] people like to call them D&D now for [3:43] what it's worth they are pretty good at [3:45] adapting this material for the screen [3:47] they have a good way of cutting the [3:49] unnecessary stuff accentuating the [3:51] important elements that might not be [3:52] immediately important and presenting it [3:54] in a fresh and engaging way now a lot of [3:56] people [ __ ] on these guys because of the [3:58] recent seasons but let's not forget that [4:00] the good stuff is partly their work too [4:02] so if these guys are pretty good at [4:04] adapting existing material then what's [4:06] the problem well the problem is that [4:08] around season 4 & 5 they ran out of [4:11] books see unfortunately for them the [4:13] books aren't finished and when they [4:14] signed on to do this show they probably [4:16] thought the series would be over by then [4:18] but then we all found out the hard way [4:20] that george RR martin is kind of lazy i [4:24] mean it's kind of hard to say that [4:26] because you can't really get a [4:27] the guy the first three books have a [4:29] mere two years between each of them and [4:31] that's about normal that's a pretty [4:33] quick pace then there are five years [4:35] between books three and four then six [4:37] years between books four and five and [4:40] book five came out eight years ago with [4:42] no release on book six in sight and [4:45] they're still supposed to be a book [4:46] after that one now my personal theory [4:51] has always remained that Jorge kind of [4:52] knew he wasn't gonna be able to finish [4:54] the books in time for the show so he [4:56] just decided to wait for the show to [4:57] finish which is honestly the better [4:59] marketing choice even though I don't [5:01] know if he really cares about that I [5:02] mean think about it what if the show was [5:04] in like season six way after they're [5:05] done adapting the books directly then he [5:07] releases a book with completely [5:09] different stuff in it who the [ __ ] is [5:11] gonna read it now when the show is still [5:12] on it would just be confusing to consume [5:14] two stories named the same thing but [5:17] with different [ __ ] happening I think he [5:18] knows that the show is like the most [5:20] popular thing ever and if he releases [5:22] the book it's just unnecessary [5:23] competition it's better to just do the [5:25] books after the hype of the show has [5:27] died down a bit but either way the point [5:29] is that D&D ran out of books they had a [5:32] few tidbits from George but that's about [5:34] it [5:34] but outside of those few elements the [5:36] show just had to start making [ __ ] up [5:38] and these guys aren't really good at [5:41] that once they started writing original [5:43] content we got some of the worst plot [5:45] lines in Game of Thrones history we also [5:47] got some of the worst dialogue not to [5:54] mention fight scenes also start popping [5:55] up randomly to distract the viewer and [5:57] fill up time Game of Thrones used to [5:59] have like one fight a season if you were [6:02] lucky but in the later seasons it feels [6:04] like fights just get added for no reason [6:06] why doesn't he have a shirt on this [6:08] whole scenario reminds me of Full Metal [6:09] Alchemist [6:10] where the original anime ran out of [6:12] manga to adapt so they just started [6:14] making [ __ ] up and it got pretty weird [6:17] Game of Thrones went the exact same way [6:19] except we don't have any books to show [6:21] us what we're missing out on but if you [6:22] ask me it's obvious yeah [6:25] north of the wall and then back here [6:28] again he climbed on the [ __ ] dragon [6:30] unfucked [6:31] what kind of person climbs on a [ __ ] [6:33] dragon a madman what kind of person [6:36] climbs on a [ __ ] [6:37] I mean look at the whole Hodor reveal [6:40] this is one of the last things that was [6:41] based on material directly provided by [6:43] George and it's so [ __ ] weird and [6:46] cool and creative like bran sends his [6:49] mind back in time and like time splices [6:52] jung-ho doors mind so then he just [6:54] damages his brain forever I can't even [6:57] explain it properly it's so conceptual [6:59] and strange that I know these goobers [7:01] didn't make it up themselves [7:02] unfortunately the show just stopped [7:04] being creative once they had to do it [7:06] themselves before it was a nuanced [7:08] fantasy series that submerged your [7:09] expectations in interesting ways the [7:12] main character from season one is your [7:13] traditional fantasy protagonist he's so [7:16] righteous and good-natured that he [7:17] almost solves all of the problems of the [7:19] series right away and he can't have that [7:21] so they kill him [7:22] one trope inversion that I've always [7:24] loved is with revenge and how the series [7:26] deals with it in a traditional fantasy [7:28] story were taught to root for characters [7:30] that are driven by vengeance because we [7:32] see it as justice you know if you do [7:34] something bad you should be punished for [7:35] it but A Song of Ice and Fire takes this [7:37] and twists it vengeful characters are [7:40] almost always punished kill them all [7:45] every one of them kill them all [7:50] we have to get the girls back and then [7:55] we will kill them oh they're usually [8:01] blinded by their lust for revenge and [8:03] more often than not they pay a steep [8:04] price for it Arya's whole deal in [8:06] earlier seasons is about her wanting to [8:08] exact her vengeance on the people that [8:10] ruined her life and it's kind of [8:11] childish every character she interacts [8:13] with tells her that her goal is stupid [8:15] and that it's not worth it and for most [8:17] of her are key kind of looks like it's [8:19] going to allow her to shed her old ways [8:20] and give up on her petty quest but then [8:23] the writers kind of forgot what they [8:24] were doing with her and she becomes the [8:25] [ __ ] Punisher she does eventually [8:27] learn to give up on her quest but not [8:29] because it's Petty and wrong but because [8:31] everybody she wanted to kill is already [8:33] dead everybody else is punished for [8:35] vengeance but Arya gets to walk away [8:37] scot-free [8:38] in fact almost every main character is [8:40] ruined by the end of this show the [8:42] personal stories become forgotten and [8:44] they kind of become the standard version [8:45] of themselves it's like the writers took [8:47] the base qualities of each character and [8:49] just use those for the rest of the show [8:51] and decided they didn't want to write [8:52] any more character arcs I honestly can't [8:54] think of a single character that has a [8:56] good arc in this season aside from Theon [8:59] the characters also become incredibly [9:01] stupid I mean just listen to the writers [9:03] explain why Danny couldn't see the fleet [9:05] of pirate ships before her dragon gets [9:07] shot down by them while Danny kind of [9:09] forgot about they aren't fleet and [9:11] Euron's forces she forgot yeah the [9:14] characters are all stupid every single [9:17] one of them it's like everybody dropped [9:19] like 20 IQ points in these last two [9:21] seasons so let's go ahead and look at [9:23] all the characters and how the writers [9:24] [ __ ] them up by the end of the show [9:26] Daenerys Targaryen alright let's just [9:28] get this girl out of the way early [9:29] because most people are probably here to [9:31] watch me [ __ ] on her Danny obviously [9:33] suffers the most in this season she goes [9:36] from being a slightly petulant but [9:37] confident young ruler to a [9:39] megalomaniacal tyrant in just a few [9:42] episodes yes a few episodes now there [9:46] are a few people out there saying that [9:47] her fall to the dark side was [9:49] foreshadowed and these people are not [9:53] correct [9:54] Danny's fall to the dark side is more [9:57] abrupt and jarring than anakin [9:59] skywalker's and somehow she still has a [10:01] higher body count than him [10:02] Daenerys this whole arc has been a [10:04] about her proving that she can break the [10:06] cycles of the world you know the name [10:08] breaker of chains is supposed to be [10:09] literal and figurative she wants to [10:12] break the cycle of her family line her [10:14] dad and brother were [ __ ] nut jobs [10:16] and she wants to prove that she can be a [10:17] powerful ruler without being a tyrant [10:20] she knows that Westeros has been at war [10:23] for a long time and that the people [10:24] ruling the land have been corrupt and [10:26] evil she wants to prove that the land [10:28] can thrive under the right person she [10:34] wants to end the cycle of suffering that [10:36] everybody's been experiencing yeah they [10:39] totally [ __ ] her up now I'll be honest [10:41] I never really liked Daenerys part of [10:43] the reason that I never finished the [10:44] rest of the books is because I hate [10:46] enjoying a chapter and then turning the [10:48] page and seeing this [ __ ] she's the most [10:50] boring character to follow but that [10:52] doesn't mean I wanted her arc to get [10:54] thrown in the dumpster she goes from [10:55] being normal confident strong Daenerys [10:57] in one episode to being kind of sad that [11:00] nobody in Westeros is her friend - [11:02] killing countless innocent people that's [11:04] a pretty drastic jump if we're being [11:07] honest now the current theory is that [11:09] George told D&D that this is what was [11:11] gonna happen to Daenerys by the end of [11:13] the story and honestly I'm on board with [11:16] that I think that's the case but if that [11:18] is the case they should have known to [11:20] actually cultivate this Ark from long [11:22] before this because as it stands it [11:25] comes out of nowhere actions speak [11:27] louder than words and Dany has always [11:29] talked a lot of [ __ ] but her actions are [11:31] completely separate threatening your [11:33] enemies with fire and blood is way [11:35] different than killing innocent people [11:36] indiscriminately if your only example of [11:39] her having a dark streak is that she [11:41] executes people who betray or disobey [11:44] her well I got news for you every [11:46] [ __ ] character does that in this [11:48] world John does it all the time the [11:50] first lesson that the series teaches us [11:53] in the very first episode is that if you [11:57] are an authority figure it's your [11:58] responsibility to do what you got to do [12:00] even if that means carrying out an [12:02] execution this act is never shown as a [12:05] bad thing in this series ever so no I do [12:09] not accept it as a foreshadowing for her [12:12] turning evil when at this point it's [12:15] basically a societal norm [12:17] now yeah if you really really really [12:19] wanted to make her evil it's totally [12:22] doable the seeds are there but they [12:24] haven't grown into something that's [12:26] convincing as far as we know based on [12:28] everything that the show has actually [12:30] shown us from her she's been nothing but [12:33] kind and benevolent when it comes to [12:35] innocent people I also want to point out [12:37] that Stannis only killed one innocent [12:39] child and every viewer of the show hated [12:41] him for it he was seriously the most [12:43] hated character on the show and yes this [12:45] is the same show that has this [ __ ] [12:46] kid [12:47] I'm not tired a lot of people are saying [12:51] oh well since she got to Westeros her [12:54] friends have died and nobody nobody [12:56] likes her okay [13:00] Arya has lost more family and friends [13:02] than Daenerys and she isn't a mass [13:04] murderer okay well she kind of is but in [13:07] a different way this is some of the most [13:08] blatant character assassination that [13:10] I've ever seen on a TV show and it's no [13:13] wonder why everybody immediately turned [13:15] on the show after this moment it's not [13:16] just because women and children are [13:18] being toasted by our main character we [13:20] don't really care that something [13:22] upsetting is happening it's Game of [13:23] Thrones nobody really gives a [ __ ] about [13:25] that the problem is that we're being [13:27] told that this is a genuine character [13:29] arc when it's really not in fact I can [13:31] go ahead and fix most of these problems [13:33] with just one solution if you completely [13:36] removed the bells of surrender then the [13:39] scene would make a little more sense [13:41] think about it what if Daenerys was you [13:43] know trying to take over the city but [13:45] Cersei just wouldn't surrender like no [13:47] matter what happened Cersei just [13:49] wouldn't do it [13:50] then Daenerys has to make a choice she [13:52] can either give up which she probably [13:54] wouldn't do or just keep attacking the [13:56] city which would put innocent lives at [13:58] risk that's a much more natural and [14:00] reasonable solution than her hearing [14:03] that the whole city has surrendered and [14:04] just deciding to kill them anyway but [14:07] perhaps it's good that people see that [14:09] Daenerys Stormborn made every effort to [14:11] avoid bloodshed I'm ghost ride the whip [14:14] crazy brand Stark bran is probably the [14:17] biggest example of wasted potential in [14:19] the entire series he becomes the most [14:21] powerful being in the entire world but [14:23] all he does is sit around and make [14:25] people feel bad any personality that he [14:27] once had is now stripped away which [14:29] could be kind of cool but they don't [14:31] actually do anything with it I honestly [14:33] thought he was gonna reach his ultimate [14:34] peak in the Battle of Winterfell because [14:36] his story is completely tied to the [14:38] White Walkers he has no purpose outside [14:41] of that storyline but even there he [14:43] doesn't [ __ ] do anything the writers [14:46] don't want to get too weird so they just [14:48] leave him be because they're not [14:49] confident enough to write weird creative [14:51] [ __ ] that revolves around him they never [14:53] use his abilities in creative ways this [14:55] is a guy that can see through all of [14:57] time and space and the writers have no [14:59] idea what to do with him and know him [15:02] randomly becoming the king isn't exactly [15:04] what I wanted either again I expected [15:07] something a little bit more nuanced [15:08] after doing nothing for a whole season [15:11] him getting chosen as king feels kind of [15:14] anticlimactic remember this is the [15:16] ending that D&D were desperately rushing [15:18] to get to and once you remember that it [15:20] makes things seem kind of lame in fact [15:23] the whole last episode feels like that [15:24] it doesn't really feel like the finale [15:26] at all it really feels like they just so [15:28] desperately wanted to get to this point [15:30] and it doesn't feel earned it just don't [15:33] feel right Jon Snow so if we go off the [15:36] fact that the writers have reverted to [15:38] traditional fantasy tropes then we can [15:40] say that Jon Snow is the hero of this [15:42] story and the other seasons have very [15:44] much supported that idea as well and to [15:46] be honest I think that this is fine as [15:48] the show has drifted away from George's [15:50] story Jon has had kind of a hero's [15:52] journey but now he just stands around [15:55] either making this face or this face he [15:59] also suffers from dumb [ __ ] syndrome [16:01] like everybody else [16:02] for some reason half the characters [16:03] completely go brain-dead once they meet [16:05] Daenerys and Jon gets it the worst after [16:07] having sex with her one time he loses [16:09] all agency as a character and I should [16:12] probably mention right now that the Jon [16:13] and Daenerys romance does not work as [16:16] you probably noticed this show suffers [16:18] from moving way too quickly and this is [16:20] a problem that these writers have they [16:22] write the ending and then the characters [16:24] just start shifting around it so they [16:26] can just get to that [16:27] and this might work in a movie but in a [16:30] slow-paced show like Game of Thrones it [16:32] does not work and that's why John and [16:34] Danny don't work the second that they [16:37] meet they have romantic tension and this [16:39] is in the second-to-last season these [16:41] characters have never met before they [16:43] meet and they fall in love in the span [16:45] of just a few episodes now no it's not [16:48] like they're giving each other goo-goo [16:49] eyes from the first scene but as a [16:51] viewer you immediately realize oh yeah [16:54] they're gonna [ __ ] Danny going nutso and [16:56] the events that unfold around that are [16:58] all things that depend on their romance [17:00] it's basically the most violent love [17:02] story on television which could be kind [17:05] of a cool story but there should be more [17:07] to this story because John's whole [17:09] purpose in this last season is oh my new [17:12] girlfriend is kind of a dick he takes a [17:15] very passive role into the literal last [17:18] episode and you know what really [17:20] wrinkles my balls the fact that this [17:22] series does nothing with John's previous [17:25] storylines why the [ __ ] did John come [17:27] back to life what the hell are they need [17:29] him for was killing Daenerys his entire [17:31] purpose in the whole series but that [17:34] isn't even the worst of it [17:35] the worst is how John being the son of [17:37] Rhaegar and Lyanna hits a complete dead [17:40] end in the story the only thing that [17:41] comes out of it is Dany getting mad [17:43] about it the possibilities of this story [17:45] thread are endless and the writers do [17:47] absolutely nothing with it and what [17:49] really confuses me is that the only [17:51] reason these guys got the job to adapt [17:53] these books into a television show is [17:55] because they knew who John's parents [17:58] actually were before it was even [18:00] published in the books and he kind of [18:02] wiped his hands clean on the napkin and [18:04] he said so who do you think Jon Snow his [18:08] real mother is this was a test it was it [18:10] was a test absolutely a test question [18:12] they predicted it way back then but they [18:15] didn't do anything with it [18:17] jon has no significance in the story he [18:19] has no stake in the events of the season [18:21] and he doesn't do anything until the [18:23] very end and then the ship is asked away [18:25] forever Jon's entire purpose in these [18:27] last few seasons was just to kill [18:30] Daenerys remember when I said the [18:32] writers wrote the ending first do you [18:35] believe me now [18:36] Cersei Lannister Cersei was one of my [18:38] favorite characters in the whole [18:40] Cirie's and then she turned into lex [18:43] [ __ ] luthor before she had some [18:45] subtlety to her character you never [18:47] really knew what she was planning and [18:49] what's important is that her goals were [18:50] always a little justified the thing is [18:52] the series has always prided itself on [18:54] having characters that are not strictly [18:56] good or evil and characters that are [18:58] good or evil are punished even when [19:01] Cersei or another character does [19:02] something completely [ __ ] up we [19:04] understand why but that is until she [19:05] goes full Batman villain and bombs her [19:08] own city this [ __ ] comes out of left [19:10] field so hard and thinking back on it [19:12] always makes me laugh a lot of people [19:16] like this scene and yeah it's kind of [19:18] cool but I don't know I don't really [19:20] look back fondly on it on one hand I [19:23] commend the writers for doing something [19:24] batshit insane all on their own but on [19:27] the other hand it doesn't really fit her [19:28] character or the show for that matter [19:31] once we started nuking cities in my [19:33] medieval fantasy series I kind of [19:35] started to mentally check out she was [19:37] always a character of subtlety and this [19:39] [ __ ] ain't subtle in the slightest [19:42] instead of being cold and calculating [19:44] Cersei just kind of turns into a dumb [19:46] evil bad guy and I also should point out [19:49] that I really don't like it when [19:50] characters just die from rubble falling [19:53] on top of them it's 2019 and we are [19:56] still dropping buildings on characters [19:57] like we did with Captain Kirk and if you [19:59] know me I hate two kinds of deaths in [20:02] media dying from rubble falling on you [20:05] and dying by falling into a pillar of [20:07] fire Sandor Clegane [20:09] now this one's kind of short if you ask [20:10] me this guy has no reason being in the [20:13] show anymore [20:14] eventually this show just decided to [20:15] start bringing back characters just for [20:17] fanservice [20:18] what the [ __ ] is he even here for he [20:20] decides to just join the good guys and [20:22] keep fighting things his character [20:24] continues to exist solely because the [20:27] fans like him and that's never been how [20:29] this series operates when a character's [20:31] role in this story ends they're usually [20:33] killed or kicked out yes the cleganebowl [20:36] is a meme but it's not why I'm watching [20:38] Game of Thrones the final battle between [20:40] the Hound and the mountain is indicative [20:42] and why I don't like this series anymore [20:44] it used to be a very tightly written [20:46] drama about characters with deep unseen [20:49] motivations with a rich world in history [20:51] but now I'm watching a guy [20:53] came back to life fighting another guy [20:55] who came back to life in a crumbling [20:58] Tower while a dragon goes sicko mode [21:00] above them this fight is so stupid [21:02] it feels like the fight between [21:03] Wolverine and Sabretooth from x-men [21:05] origins wait a minute oh god damn it you [21:08] wrote that to Tyrion Lannister now I [21:11] used to joke that good old Tyrone [21:13] Lancaster was the main character of Game [21:15] of Thrones and he's a character that we [21:17] can all relate to he's witty and he [21:19] survives because he's [ __ ] smart but [21:21] then once he teams up with Daenerys he [21:23] gets a dose of the dum dum juice his [21:25] whole plan for two seasons is to just [21:28] reason with Cersei and seasons 1 2 3 and [21:32] 4 he constantly talks about how you [21:34] can't reason with her but now for some [21:36] reason he thinks that he can just get [21:37] through to her he tries like three [21:39] [ __ ] times and it never works buddy [21:42] listen she [ __ ] hates you from her [21:44] perspective [21:45] you killed her mom and her dad and her [21:47] son and you ran away she will never [21:50] listen to you and I don't understand why [21:51] you think otherwise this is a series [21:53] we're making mistakes gets you killed [21:55] the red wedding isn't just some random [21:57] [ __ ] that happened for the hell of it [21:59] Tyrion hasn't made a smart choice in [22:01] almost four seasons but he hasn't been [22:03] punished even once [22:04] in fact he gets rewarded I didn't even [22:08] want him to die either I just wanted him [22:10] to be smarter why is that so much to ask [22:13] he's bringing all the dead people back [22:15] to life and they put the women and [22:17] children in a crypt with all the dead [22:20] people so you're in he's smart but it's [22:25] not that smart [22:26] you're on Greyjoy Euron is honestly the [22:29] funniest character in the whole show the [22:31] writers decided to just add another [22:33] person to the story way too late into [22:36] the series and I can't even say he was [22:38] ruined by the end of the series because [22:39] everything about him just started off [22:41] being stupid whenever he's in a scene I [22:43] just never feel like he belongs there [22:45] he feels like a guy who just wandered [22:47] onto set from another show I honestly [22:49] think the writers realise that they ran [22:51] out of bad guys after killing the [22:52] Bolton's his role is simply to extend [22:55] the Greyjoy storyline a little bit more [22:57] and to give Jamie someone to fight [22:59] before he dies Brienne of Tarth Brienne [23:02] is fine I actually I think she's fine I [23:04] like her Jaime Lannister now this one is [23:07] personal you see Jamie was my favorite [23:10] character in this entire show he had so [23:12] much depth and subtlety to his character [23:14] in the early seasons the first thing he [23:16] does is [ __ ] his sister and throw a [23:18] little boy out a window so you might [23:20] immediately think okay he's the villain [23:23] but no that's not quite the case that [23:26] assessment is completely intentional the [23:28] series wants you to think that he's the [23:29] bad guy because even the whole universe [23:31] kind of treats him like a bad guy he's [23:33] called the Kingslayer and not really in [23:35] a nice way him killing the Mad King [23:37] before the story started is kind of seen [23:39] as a slimy event in the history of the [23:41] world but if he hadn't killed the Mad [23:43] King when he did everybody would have [23:45] died anyway [23:45] he knew that he wouldn't really go down [23:47] as a hero but he did it because he knew [23:49] it was the right thing he assassinated [23:51] an evil dictator but since he did it in [23:53] a backhand in manner everybody hates him [23:55] this is meant to play on our initial [23:57] perception of him his character is all [23:59] about reputation we see his first act [24:01] pushing a little wee boy out of a window [24:03] and we immediately draw an assumption [24:05] about him when in actuality he's a guy [24:07] who constantly puts himself in harm's [24:09] way to protect other people the things I [24:11] do for love is a line that can sum up [24:13] his entire character he's fine with [24:15] putting his own ass in the fire if it [24:17] protects somebody else he does [24:19] dishonorable things for the honor of his [24:21] loved ones his selflessness is [24:23] self-destructive and it tears him apart [24:24] this is arguably one of the most complex [24:27] characters in the entire series but what [24:30] do D&D do with this character well after [24:33] he goes on a journey of self-discovery [24:34] he [ __ ] Brienne for no reason then [24:39] breaks her heart to go and die with his [24:41] abusive partner awesome one of the last [24:44] things he does is he beats Iran in a [24:46] fight because for some reason the [24:48] writers have decided that his new arc is [24:50] just learning how to fight again him [24:52] losing his sword hand is supposed to be [24:54] significant for other reasons and this [24:57] is a problem that's seen with the Hound [24:58] as well now we have a show where the [25:01] character resolution is seen in combat [25:04] fight scenes are the ways that we finish [25:06] up character arcs instead of the [25:07] character actually learning something or [25:09] becoming a different person by the end [25:11] of it his whole arc up to this point has [25:13] shown us that he's meant to leave Cersei [25:15] forever he's supposed to shed that life [25:17] personally I always thought he was [25:19] destined to kill her that's [25:20] common theory for a lot of people but no [25:23] he intentionally breaks the heart of [25:25] someone he cares about and then the [25:27] ceiling kills him here's a line that he [25:29] has in his last episode and it's a line [25:31] that should solidify the entire problem [25:33] with his character if not for yourself [25:35] if not further and for every one of the [25:37] million people in that city innocent or [25:39] otherwise to be honest I never really [25:41] cared much for them innocent [25:44] or otherwise so you're telling me that a [25:46] man who sacrificed his own honor by [25:48] murdering the Mad King in an effort to [25:50] save countless innocent people doesn't [25:53] care about the people spendy commanded [26:00] you to kill your own father [26:08] did you guys even watch the show Sansa [26:12] Stark now Sansa was okay I started [26:15] writing this script around episode two [26:17] and I really didn't have a problem with [26:19] her up to that point like honestly it's [26:21] really easy not to [ __ ] her up just let [26:23] her be the strong independent woman but [26:25] no even she's inconsistent first of all [26:28] she has this really bad moment where the [26:30] Hound is like hey I'm sorry all this bad [26:32] stuff has been happening to you [26:34] and she says no it's okay I like that [26:37] all the bad stuff happened to me because [26:38] now I'm a badass this really shows how [26:41] these guys don't know how to write women [26:43] because they just had one of their main [26:44] female characters say yeah I'm glad I [26:47] got tortured and sexually assaulted it [26:49] made me [ __ ] cool so I'd go back and [26:51] do it all again [26:52] what the [ __ ] then to top it all off [26:54] when Jon goes to her and says hey this [26:56] is the most personal secret that I have [26:59] Ned Stark your own father took this [27:01] secret to the grave don't tell anyone [27:05] she [ __ ] tells everybody Sansa [27:11] spreading Jon's secret is the thing that [27:13] caused all this [ __ ] so yeah go [27:16] ahead and defend her actions but as far [27:18] as I'm concerned this is her fault too [27:21] Arya Stark and finally we have my least [27:24] favorite character in the entire series [27:26] which is kind of sad because I used to [27:28] really like Arya now she stands as a [27:31] shining example of what I don't like [27:33] about what [27:34] this series has become she's the only [27:36] character that the rules don't apply to [27:38] I'm watching all the main characters [27:40] struggling and fighting for their lives [27:42] and then there's a hard cut to this [ __ ] [27:45] so many people loved Arya and I [27:47] legitimately feel like an [ __ ] [27:48] whenever I complain about her because [27:50] it's hard to argue these points without [27:52] looking like a neckbeard but I just [27:53] don't really think this super-powered [27:55] version of her fits the story from the [27:57] end of season 1 into season 2 she [27:59] decides I'm gonna be a badass and I'm [28:01] gonna learn how to fight and I'm gonna [28:03] kill the people I don't like and that's [28:04] just her character for the entire show [28:07] she just makes a decision and then the [28:09] world supports that decision and then [28:11] that's just what happens to her and I [28:13] don't really like using the term plot [28:15] armor but when I see her get stabbed in [28:17] the gut multiple times and then just [28:19] walk it off [28:20] there's kind of a problem there when [28:22] King's Landing is being completely [28:23] destroyed and Arya is the only person [28:25] who survives then I start to see a [28:28] problem she teleports from place to [28:31] place she doesn't give a [ __ ] about [28:32] anybody and she's just too strong she [28:36] manages to sneak past all the zombies [28:38] and all of the knight Kings generals and [28:40] then she just jumps his ass and shanks [28:43] him he dies faster than the mountain did [28:45] they could have just sent Arya to kill [28:48] Cersei after this there's no reason to [28:50] believe that Arya would have had any [28:52] trouble with it just sneak Aria into the [28:54] city let her disguise herself as a maid [28:56] or something and then just have her stab [28:58] Cersei you guys have Batman on your [29:00] payroll and you don't even care the [29:02] problem with arias powerlevel is that by [29:04] all accounts the show should be aware of [29:06] how strong she is but they just act like [29:08] this is completely normal and it creates [29:10] a disconnect on the other hand though [29:12] once the series takes a nose dive into [29:15] Shitsville I do kind of like her little [29:17] mini story where she decides that she [29:19] doesn't like any of the [ __ ] that's [29:20] going on anymore but to be honest this [29:22] was in the last two episodes and I think [29:24] I just needed something to latch on to [29:25] so that's it [29:27] that's literally every main character in [29:29] the show and they've all been ruined in [29:31] some way or another our conflict doesn't [29:34] lie with an antagonistic force as much [29:36] as it does with our main heroes just not [29:38] agreeing with each other [29:39] Sansa is mad at Daenerys because she [29:41] just doesn't like her Daenerys is just [29:43] mad at everybody [29:45] is sad because everybody's mad at each [29:47] other all these characters completely [29:48] lose their sense of reason and at this [29:51] point these people are only alive [29:53] because they have cunning resilience [29:55] they're only here because they're smart [29:57] but the show just forgot that they were [29:59] so we have a merry band of dumb asses [30:02] that have been leading the show for a [30:03] few seasons now and a lot of people look [30:05] at Season seven when they bring up how [30:07] the show lost its mojo Adult Swim even [30:09] had a eulogy for the show after its [30:11] climax episode and for good reason this [30:14] is where the show really started going [30:15] down a path that it could not recover [30:17] from in the climax episode of season 7 [30:20] the characters come up with the dumbest [30:21] plan I've ever heard the good guys know [30:24] that the dumb ice zombies are coming to [30:26] kill everybody really soon so they have [30:28] to convince evil Lex Luthor to aid them [30:30] in the battle but she doesn't believe in [30:32] zombies so their genius plan is to go [30:34] far north [30:35] grab a zombie and bring it back to her [30:38] to prove that they're real the plan [30:40] itself is so outrageously stupid that I [30:44] thought it was a joke at first [30:46] I'm not kidding like when the characters [30:48] bring it up I fully expected someone to [30:50] say no that's ridiculous let's come up [30:52] with a real plan but no this is the one [30:55] plan and they all agree to go along with [30:57] it so they all go north to the most [30:59] dangerous place they could go they grab [31:01] a zombie and all the main characters [31:03] just safely escape but then once you get [31:05] to the end of the show you realize that [31:07] they didn't even really have to do this [31:09] because Cersei didn't really give a [ __ ] [31:11] about the zombie anyway by the end of [31:13] the story they still have to fight [31:15] Cersei when I watch this episode a [31:17] couple years ago I realized that this [31:18] show has really lost its marbles so when [31:21] the final season began I was a little [31:22] more critical of it than others episode [31:24] 1 came out and it was kind of slow and [31:26] nothing really happened and everybody [31:28] told me hey man it's the first episode [31:29] give it a break then the Battle of [31:31] Winterfell happens and other people [31:33] start seeing the problems - the episode [31:35] is like dark as hell you can't see [31:37] what's happening the main characters [31:38] somehow are totally invincible and can't [31:40] die the big evil dragon that blew a hole [31:43] in the wall last season doesn't even [31:44] prove to be a threat anymore he can't [31:46] even melt the rock that Jon Snow is [31:48] hiding behind Daenerys manages to [31:50] destroy an entire city later in the [31:52] season but in this episode she can't [31:54] really do anything against the zombies [31:56] she just can't beat them you're telling [31:57] me that this [ __ ] wouldn't [31:58] worked on the zombies I mean give me a [32:00] [ __ ] break plus much like last season [32:03] our main characters decide that they're [32:04] not done coming up with dumb plans in [32:06] the episode before the Battle of [32:08] Winterfell the characters decide that [32:10] their plan to defeat the night king is [32:12] to leave bran out in the open [32:14] lure the night king out and then they [32:18] literally never say what the plan is [32:21] which causes me to not give a [ __ ] about [32:24] what happens for an hour and a half [32:25] because I knew everything was gonna be [32:27] fine anyway I think we might live holy [32:30] [ __ ] he was right the biggest threat in [32:32] the series gets killed by arya and i [32:34] always thought that the night king was [32:36] gonna be defeated by something a little [32:38] less traditional some people were mad [32:39] that arya killed him because they wanted [32:41] Jon Snow to do it and I don't really [32:43] agree with that either the night Kings [32:45] should not have been defeated by a [32:46] normal person with a sword if it was [32:48] that easy then he probably would have [32:49] been dead a long time ago I personally [32:52] wanted something more creative to happen [32:54] I thought bran was gonna do some weird [32:55] [ __ ] or something he always says that [32:57] should he look on his face like he knows [32:59] what's gonna happen I don't know I just [33:00] expected something think about it why [33:04] was the night king even in this story [33:06] what narrative purpose does he serve [33:08] tell me one reason one thing they [33:12] contributed to the finale of this show [33:14] if you remove the White Walkers entirely [33:16] from this last season the last two [33:19] episodes do not change at all now I know [33:22] for a [ __ ] fact that George is gonna [33:24] do things at least a little differently [33:25] the White Walkers are the first thing [33:27] you see in the whole series both the [33:29] book and the show start with ice zombies [33:32] so I like to think they're pretty [33:33] [ __ ] important but as far as the [33:35] show's concerned they just had no idea [33:37] what to do with them [33:39] we just rush past the biggest threat in [33:41] the realm so we can rush past our main [33:43] character turning evil and then we rush [33:45] her getting punished for it and then the [33:46] show just ends I don't even feel like I [33:48] watched the ending of this show it was [33:50] so unsatisfying to me this series has [33:53] always been about breaking tradition or [33:55] breaking cycles as I stated before the [33:58] series itself is supposed to break [33:59] traditions of fantasy story telling a [34:02] story where a hero may die where you [34:04] might find yourself rooting for people [34:05] who do bad things in a series that push [34:08] the idea that there are no good guys or [34:10] bad guys we [34:11] now have characters that are very [34:12] obviously good and evil people are [34:15] already comparing this to the ending of [34:16] lost button lost every character got a [34:19] fate that was satisfying and completed [34:21] their arcs in meaningful ways and pretty [34:23] soon they're gonna be a lot of think [34:24] pieces about how this way of [34:26] storytelling is genius because it [34:28] subverts your expectations and that's [34:30] that's dumb let's be real that's stupid [34:32] because there's a way to subvert your [34:34] expectations in a clever way and this [34:36] series has done it before but now we're [34:38] at a time where the writers think you're [34:40] just supposed to do the opposite of what [34:42] you expect and that's not how you're [34:43] supposed to write a story you know if [34:45] you've planned your book that the butler [34:47] did it [34:47] and then you read an intranet someone [34:50] has figured out that the butler did it [34:51] and you suddenly change in midstream and [34:54] it was the chambermaid who did it then [34:56] you screw up the whole book we hope to [34:58] kind of avoid the expected and Jon Snow [35:00] has always been the hero of the one [35:02] who's in the Savior but it just didn't [35:05] seem right to us for this for this [35:06] moment so if you watch this series and [35:09] you felt disappointed like me I guess [35:11] you shouldn't be too upset because after [35:13] all you do have multiple hundreds of [35:15] pages of good stuff that you can enjoy I [35:17] mean that's what I'm gonna do now and [35:19] I'm sure in a few years we'll get the [35:20] official canonical ending and then maybe [35:23] like ten years after that we'll get a [35:25] new series on a streaming service or [35:27] something and it'll be called A Song of [35:30] Ice and Fire [35:31] the true adaptation will get our Game of [35:34] Thrones Brotherhood and then this series [35:37] will just be seen as the weird [35:39] fanfiction that it is [35:41] [Music] [35:48] [Laughter] [35:50] [Applause] [35:51] [Music] [35:52] [Applause] [35:57] [Music]