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# House of the Dragon Season 3 Episode 2 REVIEW - Did it work?

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## Summary

This video is a roundtable review of House of the Dragon Season 3 Episode 2, where hosts Ryan Ary, Harriet Lingalan, Alex Galvin, and Cameron Casy share their reactions and analysis. They praise the episode for its emotional depth, standout performances (especially Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke), and effective storytelling that sets up the rest of the season.

### Key Points

- **Harriet's favorite episode** [3:28] — Harriet calls it one of her favorite episodes of the show, with almost nothing she would change.
- **Alex's praise** [4:00] — Alex says it's one of the best episodes in the Game of Thrones franchise, thrilling and emotionally gripping.
- **Cameron's season finale feel** [5:10] — Cameron notes the episode feels like a phenomenal finale to season 2, with Rhaenyra's look on the Iron Throne questioning the cost.
- **Emma D'Arcy's performance** [8:05] — Harriet highlights Emma D'Arcy's incredible performance, especially in the final scene where Rhaenyra yells at Otto's corpse.
- **Otto Hightower's motivations** [10:34] — Discussion on whether Otto believed a woman queen would cause war or if he was purely self-serving; hosts agree he had mixed motives.
- **JFK assassination parallel** [14:48] — Cameron draws a parallel between George R.R. Martin's trauma from JFK's death and the tragic deaths of promising young characters like Jace.
- **Battle of the Gullet focus** [24:45] — Alex explains the episode focused on personal stakes rather than battle clarity, making it more effective.
- **Alicent's arc and betrayal** [45:32] — Harriet discusses Alicent's emotional reaction to her father's death, feeling betrayed despite her own deal with Rhaenyra.
- **Alicent's assault scene analysis** [52:25] — Harriet defends the scene as cathartic for Alicent, who finally fights back against sexual violence, and notes it's a stand-in for viewer misogyny.

### Conclusion

The episode is widely praised for its emotional storytelling, powerful performances, and character-driven drama, setting a high bar for the rest of the season.

## Transcript

Let's rewind. Rewind.
>> Welcome back to Screen Crush Rewind. I'm
your host, Ryan Ary, and today we are
talking about House of the Dragons
season 3, episode 2. Did we like it? Did
we hate it? Was it mediocre? Do we want
more fights? We're going to get to the
bottom of all that today. And as always
guys, keep your comments coming. We got
a great one already I can't wait to
address from Sen Sim Vanderbrink which
brings up a good point. And super chats
are always encouraged but not required.
I want to quickly say that here on
Screen Crush Rewind. We have a massive
week coming up. We got to talk about
Supergirl. We almost talked about that
today, but we we're going to talk about
Supergirl tomorrow. We are going to be
talking about uh some big Marvel news
that has dropped throughout the week on
Wednesday and then probably more Marvel
news after that. It seems like
everything is happening in July. So, I
cannot wait to talk to you guys about
this and talk to our rotating panel of
guests who I should start bringing on
right now. First of all, I'm so happy to
have her on. Uh the person who wrote our
House of the Dragon breakdowns,
including our exceptional breakdown we
posted last night, Miss Harriet
Lingalan, right? What's going on,
Harriet?
>> Hey, I'm so excited to talk about this
episode.
>> I Yeah, me too. I don't want to spoil if
I'm excited because I hated it or loved
it. We'll have to save that for later,
but um I'm excited to get everybody else
on. And of course, we have friend of the
channel, co-host of the Comic Book Club
podcast, the guy who's always on hold,
Mr. Alex Galvin. What's going on, Alex?
>> Uh yeah, sorry. I'm on with auto High
Towers people, and it's just it keeps
going. Uh I don't know. I've been on
hold for a really long time. They keep
being like, "Hey, hang on. Don't lose
your head." I don't know what that
means, but I'm just going to I'll put
the phone down for now. I'll put the
phone down. And that's a good time to
acknowledge spoiler warning for all
things House of the Dragon season 3. Oh
gosh, they're going to come get me in
the comments. And finally, uh, former
congressional candidate and intern we
fire at the end of every video, Mr.
Cameron Casy. What's going on, Cam?
>> I'm just excited to talk about this. I'm
I happen to be more excited to talk
about this one than I was about last
week's.
>> Yeah, I am, too. And I wanted to
specifically bring you guys on. I know
not everybody watching this watched our
video last week because you guys had
legit complaints about the first episode
last week and Cameron, you reshaped my
brain when you I didn't realize this
that they originally intended to end
season 2 at the battle of the goollet,
but because of strikes and other
Hollywood things, they had to put it
here. And I do think the first episode
would have been a much better capper to
that season. You know, usually in Game
of Thrones, we're used to the
penultimate episode having a big fight
or a big event, death of Ned Stark, and
the following episode being Fallout. And
I kind of feel like the first two
episodes of this season feel like they
should have been at the end of season
two. Um, but I'm just I want to start
off by just hearing what you guys
thought. And again, let us know in the
comments. Um, let's just go around the
table. Harriet, go right ahead. What you
think?
Um, I mean, I think this is one of my
favorite episodes of the show, uh,
period. I think, uh, it's just
fantastic. There's like almost nothing
about it that I would change. Um, I
think it's honestly I like where it is
in the season because I think having
this happen in episode two of a season
really leads us up to like, especially
for people who have not read the book of
like where is it going to go from here,
>> Alex? Uh, sure. Couldn't agree more.
This was thrilling. I mean, I'd go
farther to say like this is one of the
best episodes in the Game of Thrones
franchise, particularly like it sets up
all the pieces so neatly in the first
half hour and then everything in the
second half hour. I mean, I admitted the
last time I haven't read Fire and Blood
specifically, but not knowing where it
was going, watching everything that is
going on, I was like, "This is going to
go wrong. This is going to go wrong at
any second. This cannot be happening.
They cannot just be one does not simply
walk into Kim King's Landing like that
and then it happens and obviously it
does horrific things happen right at the
end of the episode but the horrific
emotional things and I think that's what
worked so well about this episode for me
versus the previous episode is we had
the bombass but not necessarily for me
as a viewer the emotional stakes here it
wasn't that this was a quiet episode
necessarily but the things that were
happening
were so based in the emotion of the
characters and the actors particularly
Emma Darcy which this is like
>> em me Emmy all over it like this
clinched the Emmy this episode from the
first scene to the last scene just
absolutely incredible work I was
goosebumped all over the entire time.
>> Yeah and Harriet after Cameron talks I
do you had some great points in the
Easter egg video about her act and I
can't wait for you to tell everybody.
But Cam, what did you think of the
episode? Um, I mean it's like it was
just such a phenomenal finale to season
two. Um,
moment when Emma, who again is just such
an extraordinary performer. Uh, when
Emma
>> just looks forward at at what Reineer
has done in we we're past spoiled
territory right?
>> Yeah. I would
>> spoilers every
I spoiled it in my intro. Rea's
Reineer's look at the end of the episode
sitting on the iron throne and just that
look of at what cost where Raine is
finally getting what Reineer has wanted
for so long and immediately starts
questioning but was it worth all of
this. It was just so good and you know
>> I'm not the biggest fan of House of the
Dragon. I have so many issues with it
but it's just hard to deny that this
episode was just pretty riveting top to
bottom. I mean you know my what with
last week we had so much of the episode
going to these scenes that existed to
contextualize the season because it's
been two years since we've watched it
and I think a lot of the scenes in the
first last episode
>> were just were just such a drag and not
memorable and in my opinion a little
annoying
>> this whole episode I mean every minute
every character is just chewing up the
screen um Egon's scene especially was
just a testament to what a performance
performance Tom Glen Carney is giving
and how he's doing so much with so
little. Like Egon does not have that
much screen time for a character so
memorable. Um but a
>> and in House of the Dragons and Fire and
Blood not that you know he's not like a
you know central you you don't see him
for a long time. That's all I'll say.
>> Yeah. So so there's obviously a lot of
differences. I I I've said this before,
like I don't really care when there are
differences from source material as long
as those consolidations are being made
to improve the story or if they're
necessary consolidations. Some battles
are going to need to happen offscreen.
That's just a thing. Uh interesting
tidbit in Fire and Blood, Gwane High
Totower,
>> the character that we see hanging out
with Kristen Cole, waxing poetically a
lot, he was actually killed when Reineer
took King's Landing. who was in King's
Landing and was stabbed after calling
one of the Goldcakes a traitor. Um, but
they moved the character over to give
someone to for Kristen Cole to talk to.
Uh, I thought it was great. I really
thought Emma Darcy's performance was
just extraordinary and I'm excited for
the first episode of season 3.
Uh Harry, just I want to circle back to
touch on the acting choices she made. Uh
Emma Darcy and the u the final scene
there that you addressed in her Easter
egg video.
Yeah, I mean I think um
I I think this performance from Emma
Darcy I think like it it's a incredible
incredible performance and seeing that
those last few minutes. I mean plus the
opening scene with them with um Jayce's
death is incredible. Um like I was
watching it
>> last night um with some friends and
everyone was silent during that scene
because it was so like heart-wrenching.
But that final moment
>> when she's yelling at his corpse, what
have you done? And you think she's
yelling at the people in the room. Yeah,
it's incredible.
>> Um but that those final moments um the
way Reneer finally hardens to like
taking this violent action. I mean, I've
seen a lot of complaints that um like
why is Rene still reluctant to kill?
Like why is some you know Otto deserved
it? Like etc., etc. And I don't think
any of that is untrue. Like I don't
think she felt morally like uh that he
didn't deserve to die. It's just that uh
there's a difference between deciding
that someone needs to die and actually
killing them
>> and giving them a trial.
>> Well, I also think just
>> Oh, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Harry,
finish your point. Finish your point.
This is the first time what?
>> Uh this is the first time she's uh the
character has killed anyone. And I think
that it's it's I I wouldn't expect that
to have gone any differently. So,
>> and I want to flag real quick. I uh use
the wrong pronouns just now when I was
talking about Amadar. So, they use they
them pronouns. That's my fault because
she is a female character and I always
think of her in or think of them in that
way. Go ahead, Cam. What were you going
to say?
>> I was just going to say adding on to
that point. Um, I also feel like on an
emotional level, no matter what he did,
uh, as part of, you know, the UN Rea
getting usurped, as part of the whole
Green, um, conspiracy, I do think
there's a degree to which Otto probably
still reminds Reier a little bit of her
father. And I do think, you know, when
all said and done, even though she sees
Otto as someone who ultimately exploited
and manipulated um Viseris, I do think
that she was thinking of her father in
that moment. And she was thinking of how
>> even even with everything that happened,
Viseris did see Otto as a very steady
and reliable and supportive not only
hand, but friend to him. And I feel like
that was part of the psychology of that
scene.
>> Let me ask you guys this about Otto. So,
I I was going to save the ending stuff
for later, but let's talk about um let's
talk about the ending now. Then I want
to go back and talk about each character
and specifically the battle of the
gullet and address some of the
complaints we had last last week. So,
with auto high tower, you I've pointed
out in breakdowns in the past and Harry
you have in your breakdowns. This is a
guy who is from the family that
traditionally had power in Westeros, the
high towers, old town that was the seed
of power of knowledge. And then when
Aegon landed and conquered the seven
kingdoms or nine kingdoms depending on
who you're talking to um or actually six
kingdoms because he didn't conquer
Dorne, whatever. When he did that, he
shifted power away from Oldtown and away
from the High Towers. And Otto High
Tower is the second son who was set to
not inherit land or title. So he
definitely is trying to put his
grandson. He pushed his granddaughter
toward Viserus in order to, you know,
put his family line on the throne and
maybe even motivated in a way to
outshine his older brother. However, do
you think there's more to him than that?
Like, do you genuinely think that he
believed a woman for a queen would
thrust the realm into war? Did he always
think that he was doing the right thing,
not just for his family, but for the
kingdom?
Um, here you go. I mean, I I I can speak
to this. I uh I genuinely do believe
that Otto
believed to some degree that Reneer
being crowned queen would plunge the
realm into war. And I don't even
necessarily think that he is wrong
entirely about that. I think it could
have been different. It could have gone
differently if everyone on that small
council had actually supported her as
opposed to constantly undermining and
plotting to user her.
>> But I do think there were always going
to be people who uh Westeros is a very
patriarchal society and changing that is
always going to create conflict. Um on
the on the other hand though Otto
definitely also wanted his grandson to
be the king. So, it's not like it was
100% selfless. Um, I think there's
there's a bit of both. He's a
complicated character and an another
excellent performance. I'll I'll miss
I'll miss seeing that character.
>> Just to hop on that real quick. Um, I
think that two two things. Number one,
if there's one thing George R. Martin
loves in Ice and Fire, it's
self-fulfilling prophecies. You see this
with Cersei's prophecy. You see this
with what's how some people interpret
the prince who was promised. George
loves making prophecies and allowing
them to fulfill themselves. And I think
one of those is a woman cannot be the
queen of Westeros. I think there's this
idea that the civil war happened because
everybody was telling each other that a
woman could not rule Westeros. And it's
like, okay, yeah, well that's true if
you say it. Like if you all choose to
not let a woman rule Westeros, but if
all of you had come together and
accepted that radio would be the queen,
>> it would have gone fine. It was all of
you manufacturing this issue. And not to
get too political, but I feel like
that's the case with certain women and
marginalized groups in politics, too.
People will say, "Oh, a woman can never
be president. Oh, a person of this
specific race or background can't be
president." It's like, yeah, well, if
you keep saying that over and over
again, it's true. But what if you just
said maybe a woman can be president, you
know? So, I think that there's a lot of
self-fulfilling prophecy stuff there.
With Auto High Tower, there's this very
common character in Ice and Fire, which
is like the scheming second son or the
scheming person who came from a sort of
humble background like Littlefinger for
example. Littlefinger inherited like a
small little tower with a couple of
rooms somewhere off in the veil nobody
cares about. and he schemes his way up
to the top and uses power in this very
specific way. And in old George R.
Martin blog posts, he talked about how
traumatized he was by JFK's death. He
was from a family that really the
Kennedes, John F. Kennedy was like a
political hero of his. And if you think
of George R. Martin where one of the
fundamental traumas of his young life
was seeing Kennedy get assassinated.
Then you think of Jace
>> who would have been a promising king, a
young guy, a handsome guy really liked.
You think of Bor Brickspear in 1978,
>> this young guy who was about to be the
king that might have just changed
everything for the better, but died too
soon, too tragically. You think of Rob.
Poor and poor Joffrey who was cut down
way too short. Yeah.
>> Rob Stark, Baylor Bra, a lot of the
Targaryen sons, if you're reading Fire
and Blood, generally speaking, if it
seems like one of them is going to be
good, that means they are going to
suffer a
>> Rhaegar.
So, well, depending on your
interpretation of Rhaegar, you know,
that's so,
>> oh, no, no, I forgot who I was talking
to. Never mind going down that road.
>> Auto high tower a little bit as Lynen B.
Johnson. I think of him as somebody
>> Oh, that's a that's a great analogy.
That's fantastic.
>> You know what I'm saying? I think Yeah,
I think George thinks a lot about that
stuff. I think he thinks a lot about
>> because Lyndon Johnson was somebody who
Oh, god, you've said it now. Lyndon
Johnson was somebody who, you know,
wanted the presidency his entire career.
He knew everyone in the Senate. He knew
he could make things happen. He had a
New Deal like list of priorities. And
he's kind of like Otto High Totower, the
most experienced guy who wouldn't have
been anybody's first choice.
And that is my
>> I love that.
>> Um, that is a great point and I'm a big
fan of that. We just had a comment. Let
me find it real quick to make sure I get
the wording right.
Even in the King's Guard, misogyny runs
rampant from uh, Greeky told us that.
That is such a good point. Was it
Duskondale? He was the knight who um,
maybe ancestor, distant relative Duncan
of Duskondale who locked her in her
room. And even Jayce said to her in the
previous episode, "Well, it's your life
for hers because you're going to keep
her safe by disobeying her." Not to keep
bringing this up, but would they have
ever locked a king in a room like that
who was of age? You know, absolutely
not. So, I thought that was an
interesting point, too. Thank you for
the comment.
>> And before the comments got to us, it's
uh Sir Laurent Marbrand was that that um
>> Oh, thank you so much. What What did
Justin do? Was he uh the one who was
with the greens in the
>> sir Stefan Darklin was last season um
was uh the ancestral seed of Duskandale
but um I forget in what way Dusk and Oh,
it's because Aegon and Laris were
talking about going there that we
brought up Dusk and Dale.
>> Got it. That's right. Thank you so much.
I was wrong about that. By the way, I
just wanted to mention just before we
get away from the Barb Brown thing and
to touch on some of the other things, I
thought it was very interesting watching
the episode a second time knowing that
Rea is having trouble chopping it off
Otto High Tower's head to see how she
reacts to Marbrand who gets down as like
chop off my head and she's immediately
kind of coming up with excuses and
reasons not to do that. And then when
she's walking out, she's like, "Have him
choose how he wants to die." She's
outsourcing it
>> to him and then ultimately is
confronted. I I really read into it
>> since we have never seen her kill
anything except for a wild boar on this
show that it was like you were saying,
Harriet, killing that father figure, but
also just like the act of killing, like
oneon-one killing is something she has
never done. And now she is going to have
to make those decisions all the time,
every single day. she's been able to put
off as this far away thing of yes, I
want to be queen, but it's over there
and now it's right here and it comes
through. Now I'm getting like I'm just
sort of meandering, but I just wanted to
mention since we haven't mentioned, I
thought the direction and writing on
this episode as well was phenomenal. And
particularly just those shots that are
sabotistically so obvious but also so
beautiful of Rea walking from the puddle
of blood leaving her bloody footprints
leading up to the throne finally. Yes.
Seeing her sit on the throne and the
reflection of the blood like
>> chef's kiss. Beautifully beautifully
done. And I think her Emma Darcy's uh
their performance would not have worked
the same way without having a director
so good in the chair making sure that
that all came through.
>> I want to throw this out there too. I in
our breakdown. Sorry Harriet. Uh we we
didn't really draw parallels between
that bore episode, but it would be
interesting to go back and watch that
because that was the episode where Otto
really started pushing for Viserus to
name Aegon the heir and where Rene first
shows. You know, she for one thing goes
off on a jaunt with Kristen Cole that
leads basically lays the groundwork for
all of this, but it's also where she
demonstrates like, "Yeah, I'm a gentle
person, but [ __ ] push me and
see what happens because she really
takes that boar out and walks into camp
with it when the men couldn't find the
vaunted white stag. The woman out by
herself killed a boar." It might be
interesting to see how that episode is
microcosm of the war that followed.
Sorry, Harry. Go ahead. Actually, my
point was related in that um I saw
people drawing comparisons which I
hadn't thought of uh between the fact
that it took um Viseris two strikes to
kill the uh deer that they caught in
that episode. Um
>> very good.
>> Uh it's Reneier was struggling in a
similar way. Um
>> that's right.
>> So she was trying to be like her dad.
really goes to show how uh how sharp how
sharp Valyrian Steel is because if you
recall correctly Theon Greyjoy back in
season two of Game of Thrones when he
was beheading I think it was Mr. Luen um
in Winterfell after he took Winterfell.
He he had a regular sword and it took
him like eight to 10 hacks to behead
this guy. And Reineer, who I watched I I
watched the scene twice just to be sure,
didn't look like Reineer was even
putting that much of her weight into it.
It seemed like she was sort of passively
doing the beheading.
>> Uh two strokes by the standard of what I
understand medieval beheading to be.
pretty impressive for uh was was it dark
sister?
>> Maybe she missed her calling. Yes, I
know actually it was Jayce's sword,
wasn't it, that she took or was Jayce's
sword not blaring?
>> I think she was damaged for the
beheading. But she did take Jayce's
sword to King's Landing with her, which
is a detail I we I learned from the uh
the making of it was after the episode,
>> which is very cool. But Damon gave her
Dark Sister for that.
>> Yeah. Uh the one thing I will say that
is just again one of those things that's
sort of out of the showrunners hands and
this is more the result of just the
state of the industry is auto. You know
the auto scene was really cool for me
because I have all of the Ice and Fire
books behind me and I'm obsessed with
the series. For your average viewer,
your average viewer hasn't seen auto in
like four years.
>> We since the Biden administration. Yeah.
since since the Biden administration.
Yeah, we got some great scenes in
episodes one and two of season two with
Otto. Uh there was a scene the scene
where Agon um sent him off and appointed
Kristen Cole as the hand. The acting
from all of them was really really good
and and Otto was definitely a part of
some great scenes in early season 2.
Then he disappears for most of season
two and appears only in a brief shot
where he's captured at the very end of
the finale. I have a feeling that was
something that they threw in last minute
to remind the viewers that there was
going to be more Otto once they found
out that the final two episodes weren't
going to air. Um, so Otto gets brought
out at the end of this episode and it is
a massive moment and it is a massive
conclusion to this one part of Reineer's
story and frankly this one part of the
history of King's Landing. But your
average viewer hasn't spent a
substantive amount of time with Otto in
so long that I feel like the people who
recently binged seasons one and two to
remember what was going on before season
3 started probably had a little bit
better an experience with that scene
than someone who saw it.
>> Right. That's like that's that's must be
Allison's dad.
>> The guy who played the
>> That's what I mostly know him from. and
also his great cameo in Venom 3. That
totally made sense. Uh Olivia Davies
just left us a comment reminded us that
Theon killed Sir Rodrik and didn't kill
um Maester Leuen.
>> Who killed Mr.
>> himself? I don't know somebody. Or maybe
maybe they're wrong and I don't know. I
I'm just saying that's a comment.
>> I think it was Yeah, Roger Castle, Jory
Castle's father. Um
>> yeah, because Mr. Leuen is still alive
when when uh
>> the Ramsey takes over arrive.
Okay, I want to quickly bring this up,
guys. I don't know if you've seen this
yet. If you watch our breakdowns, you've
heard me talk about it. I love this
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Dragons tour shirt. It's got dragons on
the front. It's got uh Seven Kingdoms
tour at the bottom and on the back. This
absolutely amazing list of all of the
different battles in the Game of Thrones
font. I love this shirt. Mine's in the
mail. I can't wait to show it to you
guys in person. And we've got a couple
other new shirts here I want to show
off. Um, they're not a big deal in the
show yet, but trust me, the winter
wolves are some of the coolest Starks or
coolest characters in Game of Thrones.
So, this is a tribute to the winter
wolves. We came to die shirt. Comes in
multiple colors. And then one more we're
showing for the first time in a live
stream. Duncan egg. I really wish we
would have thought of this one when uh
Night of the Seven Kingdoms was on. It's
got the elm tree with the star above it.
And links for those and more are down
below. Thank you very much.
Um, I want to bring up, let's just go
through some of the characters and talk
about the fallout from the battle. So,
last week, Alex, you brought up you
couldn't really tell who was winning the
battle. The sails were the same color.
And I brought that into this episode. I
was thinking about it and about how
these people, the creators of the show,
would know how to stage whether or not,
you know, a battle was being won by one
side. But I don't think the battle was
about that. I think it was supposed to
be personal stakes. And now I'm thinking
that this episode was supposed to be a
mystery until we found out. Was that
your read on it? And do you, if so, do
you think it was successful?
>> Um, I don't know if I necessarily read
it as a mystery so much as I changed my
opinion, at least in this episode, that
it was more about
>> nobody really won because I think that
was kind of the theme. I mean, that's
the theme of Game of Thrones in a
certain sense, but like certainly this
episode like Rea winning the throne, but
sort of potentially losing everything in
that final moment with Allison, you work
backwards from there. Everything comes
out of that. Nobody is winning at any
point. And that's what you get from just
seeing the wreckage and the gullet.
There's no winners or losers there. You
have, I think, unless I'm wrong, it was
the triarchy. Were they fleeing on shore
at the beginning there and then getting
cut down? Because to the point that
we're getting at like as a more casual
viewer, it wasn't entirely clear who
anybody was because they're not like
we're the triarchy. We got to get out of
here. You know, nobody's and I'm glad
they didn't, but it was more about like
this is chaos and everybody is running
off, trying to get away, trying to
survive. It's the same thing that
happens on that scene with Aegon and
Laris on the road where it's just two
armies coming at each other and they're
doing their semic comedy thing in the
middle there just trying to scurry off
and escape. So, it was a long way around
to saying that like I didn't need that
as much in this episode because we did
focus it on the personal. in the middle
of the wreckage of the Battle of the
Gullet, we honed in on Allan and Baya
and what was going on with them. Uh,
which I thought was great versus what I
saw in the previous episode. Um, you got
those really personal relationships.
They were talking about Corass. They're
looking for Corass. I wish it was a
little harder to find him versus he was
just kind of hanging on a rock, but
that's one tiny quibble. Otherwise,
great episode.
big big guy big big white hair
>> dragons
isue that I kind of have with this show
um I don't know how I would fix it
there's a couple things where I'd be
like here's what I would do this one I
don't know I feel like on this show
specifically in a way that was not true
of Game of Thrones I sort of struggle to
remember why Harrenhal is so important
for them to hold I feel like the script
does not go out of its way to remind us
that much like Why does this big black
castle that constantly seems empty and
burnt out? Why is this such a
centerpiece for this war? And I
understand as somebody who reads his
books, you know, the placement of
Harrenhole, the size of Harrenhal, how
difficult it is to take. I I get that.
But if I were a casual viewer, I would
just be like, why are why is everybody
obsessing over the black spooky castle?
I'm very nervous that some of the leaks
are true. And I'm not going to spoil
anything in the leaks, but just based on
what I saw in this episode, I'm very
nervous that we're gonna get an Aemon
plot this season that is pretty much a
retread of what happened with Damon last
season where he was having trippy dreams
in Harrenhal while um what's her name?
>> I don't know. Am I the only one who kind
of wants to see what his dreams are and
if they're different? And that's the
next thing I was going to break up bring
up.
>> It's more incest. It's like he already
kissed Allison last week.
>> Yeah. like and there was
>> maybe we can make it go further this
time. I don't know. Maybe like I don't
know. Like maybe we broke the sale. We
can do something else with it. I I don't
know. I don't know.
>> It's Ryan's take on House the Dragon. We
need more incest.
>> Yeah, I'm from southern Ohio. I don't
know. Look, Damon Damon um in this
episode, you know, we saw him humbled
last season and I I personally am of the
mind I love all the Damon [ __ ] last
season. I love seeing this like spoiled
brat of a prince get humbled in
different ways and learn how hard it is
to rule, how hard it is to be political
and then seeing what Viserus saw or at
least some version of Aegon's dream and
understanding the future and then
understanding he is a very small part of
this larger puzzle. That was a great
arc. And then this episode I do love
though that he's not, you know, coming
in like Gandalf the White totally
changed. He's still such an arrogant
prick. Like the way he treats, and no
spoilers for the books, but the way he
treats the dragon seeds and and Alice,
not Yeah. Alice is like, "Dude, this
woman saved your ass." Like, you would
be nothing without her. And you won't
even lie to her right now and say,
"Well, yeah, I'll talk. See if I can get
you a castle. I don't know." Like, you
never know. Maybe we can. We got a
female queen now. You know, maybe we can
do something for you. And then I just on
the other hand, and I want everybody's
thoughts on Damon in this episode. It's
interesting to see that he's the one now
who is talking to Reneer and saying,
"Remember the prophecy. Remember the
real reason you're doing this because
Damon used to be the person who pursued
power for the sake of power. Now he's
the one that has a higher calling." I'll
I'll talk about Damon all day. I love
this character. What do you guys think?
I
>> I agree with you. I thought he was great
in this episode. And there's really
complicated work going on from Matt
Smith because it does hone down to
really personal petty stuff like what he
does with oh my gosh I'm Myria uh where
obviously they have like a very deep
history going on there but and he kind
of can't let go of it until he does. The
way that scene was staged with him going
back on old pettiness, her pushing back
on him, and ultimately them just sitting
down on the bench, I thought was really
nicely a nice way of saying that, yeah,
they're not going to let go of this
stuff, but ultimately they are both
there for Rea and making sure Rea gets
what she needs to get. And I thought
that was a nice way of putting it. It
allows them to be human, fleshed out,
rounded out characters in the middle of
these very big stakes. And then moving
into what you're talking about, Ryan, I
thought that next scene with Rea
barereft over the death of Jace, sobbing
on her bed, Damon sort of slow playing
it, getting into being like telling her
what happened, saying that she needs to
step up, she needs to go with Allison's
plan, and then ultimately pivoting to
it's the fate of the world. It it's
bigger than us. So, I think there's a
level he understands that, but he also
can't turn off being a total a-hole at
any point. Also,
>> Harry, what do you think?
>> Yeah, I mean, I think uh that little
smirk when he walks past Misaria when
they're leaving, uh, is just like the
epitome of that character. And yeah, I I
loved that interaction between Damon and
Misaria, like that power play going on
there. Um, and I really hope um that
Reneer uh kissing Misaria last season
wasn't a one-off. I hope we get some
more resolution of that plotline. Um,
uh, not just because I would like to see
it, but um, I think that uh, I I hope
that Aean's plotline isn't a complete
retreading of Damon's just because I
want them to do something different. But
I would like to see how Aean's character
could undergo some kind of
transformation because he has been a
very static character and I would be
interested to see what they do with him.
>> So back to that Alice, right, last
season we were like, well, what does she
want? She must be a green sear and she's
trying to protect the world from the ice
zombies. In this episode, we find out
yes and a castle, please. Um, I wonder
because that makes me think, okay, well,
she was doing that for Damon to stop the
thing, right? Maybe Damon's key to this.
Maybe Reneer is key to this. And we've
seen Game of Thrones. We know Reneer's
efforts and Aegon's. It doesn't matter
like in the grand scheme of things. The
Targaryen dynasty falls in a couple
hundred years or so. So I wonder if then
she can you if that would be her
motivation for doing something similar
with Aean and controlling him because
she knows she exists at this time and
place uh depending on how old she is,
which is up for debate. And she knows
the long night's going to happen or not
happen. It's got nothing to do with her
and she just wants a place to put her
feet up and keep warm. Cam, what do you
think?
>> I mean, I I don't know. I think that
with Prophecy, the showrunners are
probably going to take the chance to
engage with the stuff that's more from
the World of Ice and Fire world book
than it is from the main Ice and Fire
series and from the Fire and Blood book.
Uh, spoiler alert. You don't need to
flash the sign again, but spoiler alert.
There are photos that have been taken on
set of the Green Men who are characters.
>> The Green Men.
>> Yeah. Yeah. They flashed Harry. Weren't
they the Antler Guys, right?
>> Yeah. The We saw for a moment. Um, and
>> so spoiler alert for something that
Cameron didn't know.
>> Okay. Well, hypothetically, if we see
them again, uh they're characters who
are just maybe the most mysterious
things in the whole series, and that
includes the Shadowlands Beyond Ashai,
which are kind of famous for being this
thing that George left so vague because
he wanted to toy around with it and then
just never got to it. And now, because
he wrote a million pages of Daenerys
Targaryen and Marine, we're probably
never going to get to see it. But the
green men are these ancient beings in
Westeros that seem to have ties to the
children of the forest and the first man
and potentially the others or the white
walkers. Um, and they're on the aisle of
faces, which is also one of the most
mysterious locations in the series. I
personally theorize that the aisle of
faces is where the final book that will
is totally going to come out of the ice
and fire series is going to culminate. I
think that Bran is going to go to the
aisle of faces to make a new pact with
the White Walkers. I don't think that
the battle with the White Walkers ends
in some giant war. I think that it ends
in a pact because George R. Martin is a
hippie and he doesn't think war is the
answer to anything. Um, but I I I think
if you have a season with Aean at
Harrenhal and Harrenhal is right next to
the aisle of faces, it's right on the
God's eye and you have this magic
element and you need something for him
to do because that actor just like I
like I say about everybody, he just
chews up his screen time, he's so
captivating, I think you might want to
get into some of that lore and have a
little bit of fun with it because there
the what what has already been
prophesized is the end to both Damon and
Aean is not going to happen until season
4. They're not going to do that this
year.
>> So, what are we going to do with Aean
this year? Because in the book, there
isn't really much that he actually does
between him taking Harrenhal and his
character's ultimate demise. So, what
are we going to give him for the next
several episodes? And the answer is
visions and magic stuff. And I think
that we might see some ties to the Green
Man. I honestly think we might see some
things that people like Elio and Linda,
George's uh assistants and editors and
stuff, some things that they know about
Ice and Fire that the books haven't
necessarily
>> Oh, interesting.
>> I think that that's
>> I I even though it looks like it's a
retread and we'd be doing the same thing
again. I personally am really intrigued.
I like when we get into the deep magic.
Question for I guess everybody here. Um
at this point in history, there is a
three-eyed raven. It's just not Brendan
Rivers, right? Because isn't that like a
title that passes from person to person?
>> Depends on what you're citing because as
far as we know in the books.
>> Okay.
>> As far as we know in the books, Brynden
Rivers. I mean, he he hasn't even
specified that he's Brendan Rivers, by
the way. He's just said, "My mother
named me Brynden." And we're pretty sure
he's Brendan Rivers. But, uh,
>> right.
>> Blood Raven, as far as we know, is the
only person who is assumed to be the
three-eyed crow. But not to get into ice
and fire fan theory territory, I will
say when Bran asks him, "Are you the
three-eyed crow?" or in the show it's
called the three-eyed raven. When Bran
asks him, "Are you the three-eyed crow?"
he goes,
>> "Crow." Um, so Blood Raven, while he's
attached to the weirwood tree, while
he's the three-eyed crow, he doesn't
know what Bran is talking about when
Bran says three-eyed crow. So,
>> is the three-eyed crow some other entity
or is it just the manifestation?
>> Okay.
>> Is it just the manifestation of Blood
Raven in Bran's dreams? And Blood Raven
doesn't really know how he appears in
Bran's dreams. But again, Bran didn't
say, "Are you the three-eyed crow?" And
Blood Raven said, "Yes, it was me all
along." He was like, "I don't really
know what you're talking about. I'm name
my name is Brendan." So, there's a lot
of there's a lot of questions that can
be answered that I don't necessarily
think we might ever get answers to. And
I think that if you're going to have a
season of a character so captivating as
Aean walking around Harrenhal, you might
be able to get into a little bit of the
lore just to throw the bones just to
throw the fans a little bit of a bone
>> and to not repeat from the first
episode too.
>> There's one other aspect and I might be
way off base about this because it's
based on just how he crawled towards
Alice. It was like have to be is he's
probably found another mommy figure,
right? Like that's what he's obsessed
with. And I I don't know. Alice wants
Harrenhal so badly for whatever reason
it is long-term or short term that I
feel like we're going to get a little
something there as well.
>> I hope it turns out that Alice doesn't
actually, you know, because the thing
about Alice is, and you know, Harry, you
talked about this in your script last
night, she could be really old. She
could be like tied to the the children
of the forest and old gods or she could
not be. Like it it's left ambiguous on
purpose and I really hope that she's
like super duper old and is tied to the
old magic and part of the reason she
wants Harrenhal is because you know they
cut down weirdwood trees to build it and
it's like it would be a completion to
all of the injustice done to the green
tears of the past. That's what I'm
hoping for. I also got some questions I
want to ask you guys about Allison and
her arc in this. But first, um, let's
just really quickly I want to revisit
Raina and sheep stealer. Rain is the one
who takes her, right? I always get the
two twins confused.
>> Yes,
>> that's an interesting story. So, the
lady of the veil basically turned her
away. Said, "I don't want you." And in
the book, it's not Raina, it's Nettles.
And I don't think the book had Nettles
being responsible for the death of Jace.
So, they're doing something different
here. It seems like on paper they're
leaving her with no choice and she'll
have to go to the Greens. What do you
guys think?
>> I don't know if I think that she's going
to the Greens um because of this. I
mean, it seems like based on where we
left her in this episode, uh she's just
going to hang out in the veil. um which
I think you know Nettles spends a lot of
time um kind of hanging out in the
wilderness and I wouldn't be surprised
if they kind of give that arc to Raina.
>> Um I I don't think we're going to see
her go over to the greens though. I
don't think that as a character
uh like she would ever turn on her
sister. But
>> um but who knows? Can I just say that
sounds awesome because first of all I
barely remember anything about her as a
character. I mean they really haven't
given her that much to chew on. Like I
know that she is the character they're
subbing in for Nettles and is of you
know uh the descent of old Valyria.
That's pretty much all I've got on her.
Um in the book there's just all these
characters. It's they can only be so
fleshed out. Um her going to the greens
I'd be like okay I forgive you guys for
cutting Nettles. Nettles is the coolest
character in the dance of the dragons.
She's in my opinion the most important
part of the dance because I don't think
she has any dragon blood in her. I think
she's just a really smart
>> I think we talked last week there is a
fan theory that she's Damon's uh master
daughter
>> when she when he lived in the veil. And
I hope that's not true because
>> I personally like the idea that she
tamed the dragon better like that she
just brought the dragon.
>> Yeah. Earnest. Yeah.
>> Again, that makes the Valyrian supremacy
thing one of those self-fulfilling
prophecies that George loves so much.
But I don't think George entirely knows
his opinion on Valyrian supremacy
because George R. Martin as an
individual seems to like loathe the
concept of genetic supremacy but also
seems to think that Valyrians are a
little bit better like
>> well it's well it's blood magic I don't
think I think what he also shows is the
same thing that makes them strong the
blood the tie to the dragons is also the
same thing that they're undoing because
they're so incredibly inbred that they
all go insane no matter how sweet they
seemed when they were 13 years old.
>> Yeah. Um, well, what what I was going to
say was like if Sheepsteeler goes to the
Greens, that will fix what I consider to
be a bunch of logical issues with the
story because even with Vagar, even with
Vaggar,
>> the Black faction has so many dragons at
this point that it takes a lot of
contrivances in Fire and Blood, by the
way, for black faction to just not
obliterate the green faction
immediately. I mean like yes, Vagar is
formidable. I am not downplaying that at
all. If you just send Cyrax or in like
the Valyrian pronunciation that Reineer
uses like Serak uh if you just send
Cerak and Maraxis or Caraxis which one
is Damon's Damax
the blood worm, right? Uh yeah, if you
send them to team up against Vaggar,
>> send one of them for Vagar's big fat
neck, Vaggar's done. Like it it requires
a lot of timing and placement for this
>> slow too.
>> Var slow. And also Vermathur is
>> slow.
>> Vermathor is a huge
>> No, I mean I think that's why the thing
with the dragon seeds, they're they're
doing work to move them around the board
a little bit. Like go wait here. Well,
we thought maybe we should move because
they're dumb asses. Hugh Hammer. I think
I'm waiting for Hugh Hammer to be as
cool as he is in the book. But Ol is
definitely what I thought he would be
like. He's just a huge dumbass. Arman
gave us two pounds. Said, "Can't stick
around for long. Uh you're sick." And
just saying hi. We hope you feel better.
>> Arman. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I was just
gonna say like would love for another
dragon to go team up with the Greens
because the Greens have Vaggar and
they've got Tacerion,
uh, the blue dragon who we're going to
meet who I think we saw in a cage.
>> Um, and really, I mean, and then you've
got
>> dragon, right?
>> Uh, that's Yeah. And then you got
Sunfire who we're not entirely sure what
Sunfire's circumstances are right now,
but um you know uh things are the the
Greens don't have that many dragons and
the black faction has so many dragons
that putting the putting Sheepsteel on
the green side would at least give a
little bit more of a dynamic to that. Um
>> but I I don't know. I don't think it's
going to happen. Just the thing about I
I I I totally I I love Nettles going
into the mountains and becoming a
mountain witch because when you're
reading Fire and Blood and you haven't
heard from Nettles in a really long time
and like 200 pages after the last
Nettles mention you hearing word of a
witch in the mountains and suddenly
everyone says hey guys it's Nettles and
she's with Sheep Steeler. That was one
of the coolest parts of reading the
entire book. I was like this is awesome.
But I'm
>> it's also another chance to bring a
commoner into the story uh into
especially into a show that mostly
focuses on, you know, wealthy Targaryen
uh lords and highborn people.
>> Yeah. So, but what I'm saying is I don't
completely remember the timeline. Maybe
one of you guys will be able to help me
with this. I'm pretty sure the Nettles
um and I'm pretty sure Nettles appearing
in the mountains is something that
happens after the dance and I don't
>> that's correct. I think it happens
during I think it happens during the
reign of the king who will be king after
this is all over. And I I don't think
the show is going to end m I think the
show maybe ends with that king's
coronation. Other than that a lot of the
final maybe 50 to 100 pages of fire and
blood I don't think are going to make it
into a show into the show. Like I think
this show is telling the story of
Reineer and Agon II and Fire and Blood
goes a little bit further than that. So
I don't think the Sheep Steelers in the
mountains plot is going to happen and
therefore if they send Sheep Steeler to
the Greens,
>> great.
>> I wonder if they're going to adjust the
timeline a little bit and end the show
with the Last Dragon Dine
just for to put a real button on it. I
know they last, they persist for a
while, but they don't grow any larger.
But they they I think need something at
the end of the show to tell us, yeah,
the age of the dragons is done. So,
let's get to Allison real quick. So,
Allison spends the episode trying to
save her one good kid, mother of the
year, uh Helena, and trying to protect
her and they're running around. Harriet,
in your Easter egg video, you did a
great job of mentioning that everybody
recognizes them because Otto made them
parade the body of her child throughout
the streets of King's Landing. So,
they're caught immediately. And then
Allison goes in that throne room and she
sees that her father is dead. She
doesn't necessarily know that Reneer did
it, but she sees that he is dead. I
wonder in that moment how much love she
had for her father, how betrayed she
felt by Rener, or if she felt betrayed
at all. And if she thinks in that
moment, oh, I didn't expect this. I've
made the wrong decision because she was
ready for Reneer to kill her her kid.
You think that her [ __ ] dad that set
her up to be a sex slave for decades is
where she draws the line? Like what's
everybody's thoughts on it? Harry, what
do you think?
>> I mean, I I do think that's kind of a a
line for her because that was not the
deal that they made. Like Allison has
been
>> bending over backwards to set everything
up. And you could argue that she has
also like reneged on her part of the
deal because Aegon isn't there. Although
that's not her fault, but um
>> Sure.
But she it was very very difficult for
her to make that decision to say yeah
you can you can kill Aegon and come and
come take over. Like I think Olivia
Cook's acting in that scene is
phenomenal also. Um but I think uh she
does have love for her father. I mean I
don't think that Otto was a good dad.
Um, but I think the scene like where uh
Otto is banished from King's Landing in
season 1. Um, and uh Allison is left
behind crying uh and he says to her,
"You chose Reneer."
>> Um, and this is an echo of that exact
thing. She chose Rene and ended with her
father's death. And I think she is
afraid like all the throughout the whole
episode she's been saying to everyone
um if Rene comes in and becomes queen we
can end this war without further
bloodshed. It will be peace no more
death. Um and I think the death that she
was resigned to was Aegon's. I do not
think she was resigned to seeing her
father beheaded
>> um when she didn't even know he was
there. So um that's another thing. But I
think, you know, we can we can argue all
day whether or not she's actually
justified to feel betrayed by that. But
ultimately, like emotion doesn't follow
100% logical reason. And I think she's
pretty upset about this.
Uh, I just want to add on to that and I
think those are all great points just
very briefly, but just in terms of the
acting, the pairing of a silent Olivia
Cook reaction shot where she goes
through maybe five different emotions
followed up by Emma Darcy also going
through five different emotions I
thought was great, not just for
showcasing these two incredible actors,
but also reentering the show. We have a
seismic change at the end here to
everything that has gone on in the
previous episodes to say, "Nope, this
show is still about Radiraa and Allison
and their relationship with each other
bigger than prophecy, bigger than all
these deaths, bigger than anything else.
Are they are they ever going to be able
to find common ground again?" That's the
thing coming out of this episode that I
am most excited to see.
>> They just they just wanted to to just
run around. Anybody's phone ringing on
the other end there? They just wanted to
fly around. It's okay. They wanted to
fly around just being girlfriends and
having dragon adventures, man. It just
sucks. Like every time I see these two
on screen,
>> it it reminds me of a really good play I
recently saw where I'm just like just as
>> for Allison in particular, I think who I
think we all agree has never done
anything wrong in her entire life. She's
a precious.
>> She's perfect. She's without spot.
>> Exactly. But she works so hard this
episode to keep things on track. She
puts everything on the line. And like
Harriet was saying, to then come in and
be like, not only captured when she was
trying to get out of town and keep her
daughter safe, but also to be like, "Oh,
my father is dead and his blood is all
over the floor."
>> That's such a punch in the gut for
Olivia Cook plays it so well.
>> Yeah.
>> And the plan to leave was so silly, too.
I mean,
>> yes.
>> Why not just if you're going to trust
Reneer for everything else? You think
she's going to kill you? I I don't know.
Sorry, Cam. Go ahead.
I'm so I promise you I literally swear
on my life I'm not going to bring up A
Feast for Crows again. I've brought up A
Feast for Crows probably the last four
screen crush appearances I made. I'm not
going to do it. But Allison go ahead was
a really interesting character in season
two uh because she had these long boring
meandering scenes which I really liked
and I thought that they were some of the
best scenes in the season where she's
sitting around in the consequences of
her own actions because you know Allison
is one of these characters and and they
make a point to show you this in how
much symbolism she uses with the
seven-pointed star how often she's
wearing that necklace that represents
the faith. Allison is sort of that
character that reminds us that one of
the uh most vital partners in
perpetuating misogyny is the women who
help out to do it. And Allison is that
woman. You know, she's the woman who
works for the boss at the company where
the boss is sexually harassing one of
the employees and sends his female
assistant to go cover it up, intimidate
the victim. Those things like it's
something we see in politics all the
time. like Allison has been someone
knowingly and unknowingly perpetuating
all of the things that the show is about
and in season two watching just the
disaster that came from the coronation
of Egon II she got to live in those
consequences and something that I'm very
afraid of with the show and I say this
as an Allison fan is that the writers
are just going to get obsessed with
humiliating her. I think that the scene
where she was attacked by somebody who
had the intent of committing sexual
violence, it didn't end up going
through, but it just made me think that
the writers might be entering this
pattern of behavior where they're like,
"Oh, we're going to use Allison as sort
of this um dummy to beat up uh for all
of the grievances that people have with
the green cause, and we're just going to
constantly put Allison through this
endless torture, which is just something
we've been seeing with her.
you know, again, throughout season two
as well. So, now she's finally done this
thing and made a point to help support
the coronation of Reineer, or not the
coronation, she the Reineer taking
King's Landing. I'm like, are are they
going to make us sit here and watch
Allison just get humiliated over and
over again, or is she going to play some
different role? So, I'm hoping we get
something.
>> Harriet, in your video, you made a good
point. Uh, you really spoke to that
scene really well. you might got an
answer for that?
>> Yeah, I I've been thinking a lot about
that scene because I've seen a lot of
critiques of it um this morning after
the
>> and in the chat right now, too.
>> And in the chat right now. Um which I
understand a lot of those criticisms,
but at the same time, I actually really
like that scene for the plot and for
Allison's character. I think um this is
the first time that Allison has ever
been able to has ever tried to say no to
sex. She's been a victim of sexual
violence her entire life. Um and I think
seeing her viciously fight back in that
moment was really cathartic as a
character choice. I mean the scene is
horrifying obviously. Um, but I think it
it does matter that that was her
reaction was that finally like the
clawing and the attacking with the
statueette and everything.
>> Um, and also I think um
this might be my more hot take about it.
I think that Lord Jasper in that scene
is meant to be a standin for some of the
people who really hate Allison. I think
um
>> interesting
>> the things that he says at the beginning
of that scene like
>> oh you've been worming your way up in
court your whole life like basically
accusing her of like seducing Viseris
which is a complaint that
>> people have about Allison that I could
not disagree more with but I won't I
won't go on that rant
>> at this moment. um and uh basically
accusing her of being like a scheming
little seductress, which is like a very
disingenuous even
>> it's not even remotely a part of the
show. I mean, the reason she hates
Reneer is because Reeneer got to do what
she wants and she didn't. I I don't
know. I I guess if you're not reading
subtext into the show and you only like
read recaps after, you could take that.
I don't Yeah, I don't get
>> it. It may be if you just hate women. Um
but uh
the but then seeing it kind of
>> but seeing like this like basically the
show almost I felt like was like this is
the character that you are and um you
get your head cut off by the end of the
episode. So
>> I'll also throw out there and just to
give like a little bit of a different
view on it though I agree with
everything that you just said there is
without speaking about the explicit
content and different ways that they
could do it. Uh, I took this as yet
another way where, oh, we're watching a
franchise where everything goes wrong
all the time. And just when the
characters are about to have a victory,
it's snatched away from him. Throughout
this episode, as I mentioned earlier, we
have multiple scenes where that happens
where instead they kind of win like
almost immediately. I mean, down to
finding Courtless very quickly on the
rocks where you would expect that to
stretch out for episodes and episodes.
He'd end up in a horrible circumstance.
instead they find him and he's like
walking around and pretty much find the
next scene. Same thing with this Allison
scene where you expect her to be
assaulted based on everything we've
watched for what is it 15 years or so at
this point or you would expect Orbal to
come in and sign side with Jasper Wild
and things get horribly wrong and
Allison is thrown in prison or whatever
else. Instead,
Orwell comes in at the right time, says
the truth the way that he sees it, and
she's free to go. So, we get this entire
episode, same as Rea and Damon, just
walking into King's Landing, walking
into the Red Keep with barely anybody
standing against them most of the time.
That's something that never happens. So
that to me, while I might not, you know,
I'm not like we this is a fun scene to
watch or anything, but it's thrilling to
watch like, oh, things are turning out
right for our folks right up until
>> they don't at the end and it twists and
obviously things are going to go
horribly wrong for the next eight uh not
six episodes or so. But that to me felt
like that was the place there to show us
Allison in the situation where we've
seen her in so many times before and
this time it kind of goes right and
she's the main man as that shirt says.
Is that what it was?
>> Yeah, that was an accident. I'm sorry
about that. I was hoping it was
accidentally a Game of Thrones shirt but
I I literally minimized the screen and
hit the thumb.
>> They're all passages. That's what I
would say. But yeah, but they did a
great job there of like ropeadoping you
of you thinking assuming it's it's so
much fun because I you haven't read the
book to hear your reaction when they
stormed the Red Keep because I I you
know we all knew the three of us knew
what was going to happen. So
>> getting to hear that it was even
suspenseful wasn't something that would
really cross my mind because when you
read the book it's like and then they
went into you like it just tells you it
happened. that doesn't say like they
went down a hallway. This it's like it's
a maester recounting stuff that a priest
and a dwarf said, you know, like it's
it's not presented in a dramatic way.
You have to like read the drama from the
situation. Uh guys, we got to wrap it up
there. Go ahead. Oh, no, we got a super
chat, too. Go ahead, Harry.
>> I was just saying I I always watch it
with two friends who have not seen the
book and they were both like, I'm so
scared. I'm so scared during that whole
season.
>> Oh, that's awesome.
>> Yeah, I guess I I do too. I just don't,
you know, I don't measure the reactions
that much. Okay, so the one knock the
one who knocks very cute is five B gave
us five bucks and I like this a lot said
are Laris and Aean the new Rosen CR and
Gilden Sterner what seriously what's
going on with them look in the book all
I'll say is Aean just or Aegon just
disappears he just goes away for a while
right uh because nobody knew where he
was and one thing I love about this
series is finding out that Rene and
Allison had a deep friendship from
childhood from girlhood and finding out
where the hell he went when he
disappeared and just the fact that like,
you know, they're sniping at each other
and he's mad at him and he doesn't see
he's a dumbass so he doesn't see the
bigger picture and the way that you
pointed out in the breakdown Harriet he
snaps off the air just jabs the guy from
the triarchy because he's so frustrated
and he's trying own some control of the
situation.
>> Thanks so much.
>> You got all my love.
>> All right, Cam, you're fired. I'll talk
to you later.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Oops. Wait. Oh,
>> I missed. He took himself off. I fired
Harry at the same time. Sorry about
that. Yeah, but no, he is they've been
absolutely so much fun to pair together.
Uh, really good.
>> Yeah, they're doing their like little
like Three Stooges routine and I'm
obsessed with it.
>> Yeah, it's like it's like the the road
the road to King's Landing.
>> Exactly. They're the new Bing Crosby and
Bob Hope is what's going on here.
>> I'm lo I'm loving every second of it.
All right, we got to get Oh, Alex, does
the people on the phone ever get back to
you? What's going
>> Oh, yeah. They actually said I got to
get on Chop Chop. Um, again, not sure
what that means, but I'll
>> got it.
>> Excellent.
>> Thank you so much. You can find Alex on
the Comic Book Club podcast. That is
linked below. And of course, Harriet,
her own channel is linked below, and you
can find her stuff here on Screen Crush
all the time. Harriet, love your videos.
Uh, love working with you and thanks for
coming on.
>> Thank you.
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