[00:00] Oh my... Is this where the new dungeon is? One sec. Is this where he gets to the new dungeon? Dude. I'm not even making my dungeon... Oh, dude!
[00:12] Okay, so they open access to old Ironforge. Holy crap, I am nerding out. Oh my gosh, that is sick. Are you kidding me? So this is like a
[00:24] quest, dwarf up here, a pot-strike, funwell, lorekeeper. Oh, blue gear. So this is for the Dungeon. Hall of Things. Strange noises have been heard coming from the deep within the vault. The spirits of the dead are like sleepers.
[00:36] Head down there too. You can do about it for us. Cool. Okay, so that dungeon is literally an old iron forge. Holy crap. Guys, this is sick. Big disconnect incoming.
[00:48] On the streamer accounts, we should be fine. There should be no DC. Held an offhand five damage. Bro, I'm a little nervous about power creep, guys. Five damage offhand is insane.
[01:00] but these gloves are also cracked. Okay, we have a group for the brand new Hall of Fame boys will hop in. Alright. Oh! Oh, gosh!
[01:13] That's my first death. Are you kidding me? Fall damage? Bro! How do you guys let that happen to me? What is that? That's how I die. That is actually how we die.
[01:26] Like, bro. It wasn't even fall damage. It was the lava. Yo, guys, I need a res. This dungeon is very soft on hardcore, but I can't wait to run this on hardcore. All right, guys, here we go. First look at Hall of Fame.
[01:38] Let's go. All right. We're in. We get buffed up. We need to swap the victory here. Let's do it. Okay, let's down this. Okay, we're going to wait for Chung to get the main tank here.
[01:51] He has a veteran shield and a dwarven hatchet. Let's see how Paladin does as the main tank. Looks completely fine. These are undead targets, no sheeps by the way guys.
[02:11] Shadow work paint up. Okay. Okay, we're doing our thing. One button so far. This is good. One button so far. This is good. Gotta get rid of this new UI thing.
[02:37] Dispellable indicator. Disable the avalanche. Show the damage meter? Oh. I mean it looks I mean it looks right to me, I don't know what you guys are talking about. There we go.
[02:55] Yeah, the Amish Reader looks very... bugged.
[03:07] I could just turn it off, it looks that bugged. Weird. Oh my gosh, when is the last time in World of Warcraft I didn't know which way to go in a dungeon? Well, I guess retail. But, you know what I mean.
[03:19] This is sick. I guess we're going left. Okay, this seems really easy so far. People were saying that this was really hard and you guys were struggling.
[03:31] Seems very chill. Ampy wipes? Alright guys, we have to not wipe. We have that over Ampy at least. 15 XP per mob is insane. And yeah, people were complaining the XP is actually too high, but we'll see.
[03:47] I think the reality is the quest gives you a ton, but outside of that you don't get much. The quest gives you like two levels, yeah.
[04:03] I like that change a lot, actually. You guys, one sec, I'm going to drink up the full mana here. Oh, oh, oh!
[04:16] Great. Yeah, we got EXP from the roasted boar. Let's do it. Class? Yeah, one sec.
[04:31] Just gonna get my food buff first and loot up. Straight up low level blues. I hope those don't become a problem later on.
[04:45] Dude, this place looks sick. Are you kidding me? We straight up have an old ironforged dungeon. I love it. Problem how? Like power creeps.
[04:57] Getting too strong at low level means at high level everything you're getting for billions. Oh, oh, there's a boss.
[05:13] Faltrim and Volmar. Alright, lore experts. Who's Faltrim and Volmar? Why do we care? What's going on? Faltrim. Give us the backstory. I want the dirty...
[05:25] The details. The specific details. No, I want more specific details than he's a dwarf. Oh, we pulled. We pulled. Okay.
[05:37] Defilers, miscreants, leave this place. Mind Blast? Someone take that? Okay. Seems pretty chill. I mean, we're all kind of bursting hard.
[05:49] My damage is a little lower, but that's just because I'm a low level, so don't worry about it. Ashy Spirit? I'll pass it. I'll pass it to someone who needs it more than me. It's fine.
[06:02] Um, feedback. This boss was epic. I'm a beta tester. Alright, mage decurse time.
[06:15] Yo, I don't have decurse at this level. No decurse at level 12. Still locking in and dialing on the smaller details. Yeah. Ashy plus spirit, yeah.
[06:29] Dude, we need arcane explosion to be pumping here man, heavily. Reports that the damage meter is bugged. Um, yeah we'll definitely keep an eye on it.
[06:41] I mean, clearly it's bugged right now.
[06:54] Clear everything boys. Yo we can go down that way. Or down that way. Or right this way. Or up that way. There's a quest turning behind us too. What's the mouse boss? Uh it's a rat not a mouse. I get two intellects.
[07:13] I have to get the D, L, U, I, etc. I have an addon called Plastic UI Forever. Blizzard, it's not too late. You guys can still add it. I'm just saying, Blizzard.
[07:29] It's not too late. There's a lot of people. I'm just saying.
[07:49] Oh, there's a troll. Yeah, I'll definitely do that. L M N O P oh god dude oh my goodness gracious
[08:14] oh you in a kill bro what this scroll do I show you in a second here Man this is looking good It looks incredible yeah
[08:46] Okay, so scrolls are random items that you get dropped. A mage can decipher the scrolls. If you have a comprehends scroll, it's kind of like some sod. You comprehend what it's saying and you like open the scroll like this and...
[09:00] Boop! I got something called a scroll of minor evocation. It does exactly what you would think it would do. Oh, someone pulled, guys. Someone pulled, someone pulled.
[09:16] So you can basically get different trolls to help you. Mage Pov is awful? What do you mean by that?
[09:34] Okay, I thought the greed there. Oh my gosh, bro.
[09:46] Yo, slacker, thanks for the gift of Q on them. Oh wow, our tank's getting hit so hard.
[10:00] Yeah, we'll see what happens to mages. Oh my, yo, Chungus. Yo, yo, yo, Nova, Nova, Nova, you can kite that out, brother. Kite it out. I got Novas, I got Flows. Flows everywhere, Novas everywhere. Frosty's oomed out, we gotta start pulling slower or something.
[10:15] Okay wow this is getting challenging here. I'm going to smash that guy from behind. Yo we got to wait for mana guys.
[10:33] Okay. Alright here we go.
[10:45] Nah, we don't need polymorph here. Nah, we don't need it. Pop another here, big damn.
[10:59] Dude, if I had arcane explosion, it's over for these guys, but we're level 12 right now. Bro, my guy's getting owned. Who's looting, dude?
[11:12] Owned? Owned? Okay? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sword, 10 damage, 2 salmon, 1 spirit.
[11:24] I can get sword training as a mage, right? And stormwind?
[11:36] And we're definitely gonna need that. 10 silver, I think I have 6 silver, but I'll have enough by the end of this. No one else in the group needed it. I'm the only guy that needs it. Alright.
[11:49] That's crazy. Okay. So something like this is really cool, but it's also a little concerning. Like, I hope the power free from this is going to be okay. Right.
[12:01] I hope this isn't too much spell damage at too low of a level. Dwarven Heirlooms. Yeah, we'll lock in those and dial it too. 10 spell damage
[12:16] at level 11 yeah so here's the thing though okay who's looting apparently what they did is put a lot of spellcaster damage
[12:29] onto the gear and the weapons so that it feels really good to get upgraded so they took the spell damage out of the spells and into the gear So the net result is it should be the same, but when you get an upgrade it feels good.
[12:46] Kind of like when you get an upgrade on a warrior on a weapon, it feels amazing. That's kind of how they wanted to make it for casters too, I think.
[13:00] That's a W. I think the idea is a W. We'll see about the implementation.
[13:12] Excuse me. You got any keys? Yeah, we're going to be doing beta key giveaways like all day. Isn't my mana regen crazy? I think it's about the same.
[13:24] It just looks different because the pick system isn't there. Yeah, I'll sheep something. He still has a read quest.
[13:38] You can turn quest on or off. It's up to you. No, he takes this and it's such a huge L. Hopefully they fix that. Yo! Yo, I want those.
[13:50] That's my first green, I think, dude. Let's go. I'll just sheep the moon. the moon. And this anyway, and this guy's like half HP, so we're not cheapening. Fine. I'll send the Nova out, though, for the control. Big damage pretty much everywhere. Nice.
[14:16] No kick system is fine. I think you're right, that no kick system would be fine, but I don't really want to settle for fine, right? It's one of those small things that would be better if it was the way it should be. If it doesn't get put in, fine, you're right. It's not going
[14:34] to be a deal breaker, but I think we strive for the best possible game that we can. And if something like that can be done, then cool. Let's do it right. You know what I mean?
[14:54] Okay, wow. Nova this?
[15:15] Wow. What do you mean by take that server kick? Perfect. Boop. Boop. Boop. Yeah, Rorok. Thanks for the crime. You're not gonna play Horde, bro?
[15:34] I'm gonna play mainly ally, but I might make it under pally. We'll see.
[15:46] Yo, Tar, you're the best. I'm not a bot. Okay, thanks for clarifying that you're not a bot.
[16:03] What's your opinion on waiting for hardcore? Yeah, I'm happy. I want to play normal first, of course, right? It's like a brand new game. I don't want to play hardcore right away.
[16:15] I'm going to play normal first and have fun with it. And then once it's kind of like, you know, we've done a lot in one character, I'll be really excited to make a hardcore tune and push that as far as I can.
[16:27] So, I don't know if I'd like much opinion besides that. Like, I'm happy it's delayed. Only Thing 3 of course will start when hardcore comes out which will be insane And yeah it be a really really really really good time Yeah if i make it on this alley it have to be in the normal realm since my uh no mage will be
[16:49] on pc any mention or news on self-found options during character creation no but that'll be sick maybe it doesn't need to happen when servers come out but like eventually it'll be cool
[17:01] Holy crap dude look how cool this looks. Magnum muttus. Oh man I look like Faren Geddon.
[17:13] Well, the music in here is kind of, like, eerie, too.
[17:31] Soda made a really good call to not do only things for TBC. Yeah, I think we were all kind of waiting on this, right? It's like, yeah, we could have done only things three on TBC, but, like, I think waiting for this to do only things three it's just gonna be way better.
[17:46] These party frames are standard, yeah. Yeah, you can beat human hunter, pretty sure. Okay, we might need some CC on this pull.
[18:09] I think I'm just gonna slow everything. Since my damage is low, which like might as well just like send some AoE flows out here. Oh my gosh, he hit hard. Insane ball to my tank, jeez.
[18:28] Wow, this place is not easy. That's good. Willow bracers of spirit, I need them, but let's see if my priest needs them more. The priest has one stamina bracers.
[18:41] I'd pass to the priest probably. Does this seem harder than RFC? I'm going to pass him to the priest.
[18:57] I feel like it does seem a little harder than RFC. Horde getting the easier content is pretty normal though, it's fine. Sure.
[19:31] Just for discussion, the reason I didn't go into it deeper is because we've exhausted the topic over the past few days. I've mentioned it like a hundred times. But yeah, we can go into it again. So for tick, the way it works in Classic WoW is
[19:46] ticks happen every little bit, and you can see when that next tick is going to happen. So for a rogue, for example, if you want a min-max win to open, you'll wait right before the tick.
[20:00] Ooh, okay, that's a pop in the need on that cloak. And then Ambush, in that tick gives you energy back so that you're higher on energy. So it's a version of skill expression.
[20:12] And since there's not a ton of skill expression in terms of things like mechanics in Classic WoW, that's one of the ways that people do have skill expression is based around the tick-based system. Another one is Evocate for a Mage. You can see when the next
[20:26] mana tick's going to happen, you time your ego with it, and you'll get that mana back a little sooner. Alright, one sec. We're on. Okay, I'm going to shoot this. Magnetist comes with an add, we sweep it.
[20:38] Okay, he has like an AoE if we want to get out of the AoE. Or we could ult in it and die, but I'm gonna get out I think. Cool. Almost reminds me of the first bo- OOOH! Fourth- Sam, fourth strength?
[20:52] Male Waste. Nice. Upagreed. Reminds me of the first boss of RFC, honestly. Very similar. very nice
[21:08] what were we talking about so yeah that's the argument for it it's a seal expression it's not a huge seal expression but it's always part of classic WoW PvP PvE World PvP it's part of how the game flows
[21:20] and I'll flip this back on you since we're having the discussion the burden of proof is on
[21:32] change. The burden of needing to explain why something is a good addition is on you, not on me, because
[21:44] the game always had ticks. So I'm going to flip it back on you. Why is it better smooth than to have it how we've always had it? So exactly the opposite.
[22:02] I would also be curious for that poll website that like polled all these questions.
[22:18] One of them I think, one of the questions was a tick question wasn't it? I would be curious how the community voted on that one specifically. I actually don't remember, but...
[22:36] Maybe someone has the link. As a healer, I'm gonna drop a heal the moment I can, not on the next tick. That's not how ticks work for healers.
[22:52] Um, how do I zoom out camera? It should just be default, like scroll keybinds, but you can bind it to whatever you want. Yes it is. Wait, explain why I'm wrong here. I've played a priest quite a bit, but people
[23:17] are saying the mana 5 second rule... to my knowledge 5 second rules still exist. We're We're not talking about that. We're talking about server ticks, which are a little different.
[23:31] I believe 5-second rule is still in place. So that's not changed. 5-second rule? Yeah, 5-second rule is still in place, I'm pretty sure. I can actually double-check right here. I'll see. 1, 2...
[23:47] Oh, crap. We're not in combat 1, though. But yeah, I'm pretty sure 5-second rule still exists. So that's not changing. What is 5 second rule? So 5 second rule is if you've casted recently for 5 seconds, you won't reach your mana,
[24:03] but after 5 seconds you will. So there's an add-on called 5 second rule to track it. So what the shatters were talking about is like on a priest, what you can do is you can basically just like renew and start wanding and not do anything for 5 seconds besides
[24:21] like wand so that you start getting mana ticks. That's not what we're talking about here, though. We're talking about server ticks, which is different than five-second rule. Server ticks are like energy or mana. Is it going back smooth, or is it going back on the server tick?
[24:33] Different conversations. Just to clarify. But yeah, I don't know.
[24:46] I would be curious what the vote comes out to. Actually, on that website, the Classic Plus website,
[24:58] I curious what the vote did come out to when people voted on it a few months back Not to say that website means anything but just out of curiosity I wonder what the poll was
[25:21] Someone linked the poll. Oh, there was no poll for it. Really? No one asked that question. I'm really curious what it would actually have been. I did a poll the other day, and it seemed pretty, like, split.
[25:34] I did a poll, like, two days ago, I think.
[25:48] Dude, this place looks so cool. This is, like, a starting dungeon, but it's, like, BRD level cool. Okay maybe not that cool but this kind of reminds me of B&B from BRD.
[26:01] I just love it man. We have patrols and elementals and... so cool. It's like a little mini level 12 BRD. So cool man. Awesome.
[26:13] Okay, we need to keep looting these dwarven heirlooms. Matching PRD with this lighting?
[26:26] Oh yeah, maybe the lighting is what's making it so rad. Loot acquisition protocol engaged. Oh, okay.
[26:39] Oh, okay. I just pulled threat, got knocked up. His name is Splunder. He charges the furthest one it looks like. Since I was furthest like twice I get double charged. Let me stay closer.
[26:53] Guess we could have Eureka'd here but... Okay nevermind. He knocks everyone close and charges. Dude the loot in here is crazy. Force rank 6M, Force Spirit.
[27:09] Yeah, what up, Kysit? How's it going? I love how you styled your hair today. Thank you. Server takes you at skill expression,
[27:21] but not all skill expression is good design. Smooth reshuffle rewards resource pooling, timing, burst planning, and avoiding overcaps. The difference is you're matching your class instead of mastering an invisible server timer. I think that's fair enough,
[27:34] but then that doesn't really answer anything. like is this end good or bad, right? Like, I don't know. It's more just saying that like
[27:46] skill expression exists either way. It's like, yeah, I agree with that.
[28:06] Dude, this is literally a mini DRT. Look at this. You have like a bridge that you can like... Yeah, like part of my brain is like, jump just to see what's down there.
[28:20] But I don't want to like die and run back, but like... This is so cool. This is amazing. This is a level 15 dungeon, by the way.
[28:36] Jump into the void? I mean, I probably would just die. Is my view distance maxed? I don't know. It's camera distance.
[28:49] I think it is. I want to make sure my view distance is maxed. Yeah, it is. Turn off the fog.
[29:01] Okay, fog off looks like that. Fog on, fog off. Okay, it doesn't really change much. Yeah, sorry, I'm a little late here, guys. We're trying to walk in and die all on the fog here.
[29:19] I love that you're just enjoying the journey. Oh, yeah. Okay, we're getting kind of smoked here. We Nova up the looter. We have slows everywhere.
[29:31] He's looting. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Beast Slayer, okay. I'll pick a read on that so we're gonna go to
[29:44] Westfall after we're gonna swap go by Stormwind and get sword training so I can get this up too we still need two more Dwarven Heirlooms might as well like send that back
[29:56] is anyone else lost does anyone else know where they are I am completely lost right now show your cross tab oh here you go Crop tab, I actually like how it's all in one place now.
[30:15] It's really nice. This looks dope. Yeah, it looks amazing. No dungeon map? No dungeon map. That's a good question.
[30:27] Red woolen boots. Four spell damage. Her tailoring looks cracked. Vault door? I've gotta click it guys, sorry. There's a quest in here. Deliver this to Ironforge.
[30:46] And click on that. Oh my gosh. Yeah you can hide the last name in the settings. It's still there though. How did I change my UI? Is this an addon?
[31:06] Holy crap, dude if we pull all this we're dead, you guys care? Surrogate and surge hammer.
[31:20] Okay. What is good? What is bad? Why is the sky blue?
[31:32] True. Okay, I'm just gonna get slowest on everything here.
[31:44] I think we should probably kill this first. Since it's lowest. Okay, we're getting smoked here. Our priest is getting annihilated.
[31:56] Dude, I wish I had like any AOE here. Like anything. Okay, so first golem's almost dead. Second golem might get you killed next. The warrior's taking the second golem. He's gonna try to get slows on both here.
[32:12] Fairy sucks. Oh, you can't use minor evil in combat. I'm gonna see if Nova works on these mobs. Okay, we actually might just die. I'm gonna use my health stone from earlier. Completely tapped out, guys. Good luck, good luck.
[32:24] Nice, lamb hands being used. Yeah, let's just kill the boss first. I'm gonna run up and auto attack. Nice. Who's looting? Whoa, whoa.
[32:36] 12.3 main-handed axe. Bro, my paladin walked in hard for that. Huge tanking skills. Why are some people asking, like, RFC with some super hard dungeon? I think this is harder than RFC, personally.
[32:50] Not that, like, bro, they're, like, level 12 dungeons, like, 15 dungeons. They're just supposed to be... I don't think anybody's that close, anyway. Yo, King XIII Horde? Cool. So I think that's the full place. I really like this.
[33:02] I've got to say, I like this dungeon more than RFC. Sorry, Horde players out there. I think this is cooler than RFC straight up. The ambiance, it's almost like an introduction to BRD right when you start the game.
[33:15] Makes me like Alliance even better. RFC came out 20 years ago? Yeah, it's not a fair fight. I never said it was a fair fight. But it's pretty cool, is what I am saying.