I think we're live now. Yep. Just going to the uh live chat. Okay. Hi all. Okay. Welcome to the Q&A between myself, Charles Float, and the beautiful one and only James Gregory. Uh today we're just going to be having kind of a sit down talk where we're going to be running through some questions that you guys have already prepared for us which we've got quite a few here and then we're also going to be going through the live chat. So any additional questions that you want to guys want to answer kind of after we've got through those first initial questions we can go ahead and do that. So let's just jump into it then. Yeah. Well, thanks for inviting me on the chat. It's great to uh be back live since BHCTV and everything. Hopefully, if all goes well, we can do some more, you know, the guys from Proper PBN Group. So, that'll be good. So, yeah. Yeah, we'll do some definitely hook up some more live Q&A for this one. Um, so just going to jump straight into questions really. The first question we've got comes from Raymond Jacobs and he asks, "Where do you get the best PBN domains from currently on the market because it seems to be oversaturated with quite a few crappy sellers basically." So, basically, he's asking about expired domains. I think you're asking generally and just in general where do you get your best PBN domains from? Yeah. Well, realistically, auctions in this day and age is going to be where the best domains come from. But I do think that you can still scrape for domains. Um I'm not sure if you agree with me uh since the repurposing sandbox but yeah, I think scrape for them, get them from auctions, and that's really it to be honest. Yeah. Well, I if if budget allows, go for auctions. Otherwise, look through the marketplaces and try and find people that are actually scraping good ones. Yeah. So, completely kind of agree for that as well. Um, I'd just add that I do actually get quite a few of my minds from TV Solutions. If you want to check them out, you may see my beautiful fakes in the front of their homepage. Um, next question comes from Jamie Sambi. And I do apologize if I ruin any of your people's names that have actually commented this because there's quite a few quite interesting names to kind of get out of my British mouth. Um, so Jamie Sambi asks, "Does Parasite SEO still work in 2017 and does it work to the extent that it did last year?" Well, I think you're more of a parasite SEO guy with um my personal opinion would be look at Semrush and look at the top domains to see what domains have those ranking key phrases in Google. For example YouTube um you know Google Yeah, Google sites. Um and yeah, and apart from that, realistically, if I was going to do parasite SEO, it would only be YouTube videos, live streams. something really like what your thoughts be. Um, generally what I found works really well at the moment is forums. So if you can kind of make a thread on a niche relevant forum, a lot of the time you'll rank regardless because of the power and authority that forum has anyway. Yeah. Um, generally I don't like spamming stuff at all nowadays. is generally go for like, you know, cheap PBN links or something tier one and then power all that stuff up with safe tier two. Yeah, definitely. If like if you're going to find a platform in your industry, you're not just going to start sending a load of spam in there. Um high quality PBN links, safe links, um even lower quality PBN links. I've seen places like uh I know we don't have to mention it, Conquer, uh Blackat World, those those type of PBM posts. Um so looking for uh platforms that already rank in your industry where people in your industry are talking about for you to then go on and you know yeah go through everything create your page to then rank it and send some high quality links at it. That's perfect kind of answer there. Um just to add on to that as well social profiles are really important in terms of actually doing parasite SEO as well. Um the main way I use it nowadays is purely for online reputation management. So generally if I'm working with a big client that has got not so great reviews on the homepage I'll generally put some PBNs and say social profiles and those will generally you know knock out the trip advisor and the Yelps of the world. So yeah definitely a lot better. So Paris site for online reputation management and stay away from GSA or spam and just use powerful high quality links. Yeah literally. Yeah, because you can you can still get powerful links for a bargaining cost, especially places like S and stuff. You can still get links for a dollar, $2 per month for a really really solid link from SE and even though it's non-ontextual, it still will be pretty and even then you can get inner page links from SAP and you can get in text links as well which are even even cheaper. So for a bigger campaign, you can make a lot of cash in that. Yeah, 100%. Um you because online repage management generally you can charge a lot more for that than you can SEO as well. Yeah. Especially if they're a really big brand like I had% um I shouldn't talk about this but I had a very uh big uh client in a royal family somewhere in the world where there was not very nice posts about them and we pretty much knocked out all of the uh negative um posts and we actually found positive posts on the same domain and ranked them for the same phrase. Couldn't actually knock out the other ones. That's pretty good on that one. And it was affected by just simply buying saplings. Yeah. Well, still pretty powerful today. And uh yeah uh basically sorry the next question Zach got again sorry for brutalizing people's names. Um asks Matt Diggity recommends a 5% anchext ratio. What's your recommendations on anchor text? See, this is this is interesting because he did follow up with saying um if he's going to do the same as everybody else on page one and not do the recommended ratios, is he then going to future proof himself? Um and I I think it's good practice to copy what everyone else is doing, but competitors Yeah. But to a certain point, if they're too aggressive and you know that's going to get you slapped, realistically it would make more sense to go within those ratios or counteract those ratios by building things like citations, forum post, Q&As, that type of thing to try and cancel it out. But realistically, I I wouldn't decide to, you know, start building 30% exact match or partial match what he describes just because everybody else is doing it. I would simply try and get more powerful links, more relevant links and stick within a much more safer anchor text ratio. Yeah, 100%. And and I will note as well um I was in a consultation with someone last week and they actually uh they they showed me their research that they done and they checked out that their competitors had a 50% anch ratio and they showed me this. Yeah. And I was like, "Okay, one minute. Let me go and check this quickly." And it turned out that that person actually had got seven referring domains and that was their link profile. This guy was about to go and build 50 PBN links, a 50% anchor text ratio. So, he's he's read a thread to say copy your competitors. He's misread the anchor text table. He didn't look how many links were actually in the playing field there. Um, and yeah, it's something you should be careful of, especially when you're buying like sitewides and things. Make sure they're all branded because you're going to end up with like the same exact match anchor text for thousands of links. Um um and then also several people as an extension to that anchor text question. Yeah. Uh they asked about EMD anchor text ratio. So sites that are on exact match domains or partial match domains. What kind of anchor text ratios should you use for them? Because obviously if you go down the branded route or if you're down the branded route um yeah you'll be using a very very high level of EMD of exact match. I don't do too much EMD so I can't really comment on that. I usually do partial match. So, I'll do the main keyword and then the word guide or review on the end. And I find that it's a little bit safer. But if I absolutely had to, I would probably only build naked URL links or phrases around that actual phrase, but I would I'm not sure I'd want to mention that brand phrase. And if I do, it would be like 10% if that. 10%. Okay. Yeah. Um, generally when I I again I don't really do either. Um, but generally if you're doing kind of if you want to do the branded route, just do it as the actual domain name and variations of the domain name. Yeah. So, you know, emd.com, http.com, all that kind of stuff with WW without WW. Exactly. So, you don't actually necessarily have to use the EMD at the end. Yeah. So, so so what you're saying is to pretty much just stay away from using the EMD at all. Yeah. And just try and make Google think that you are the brand and this is the website people type in that. Yeah. I think that's a much safer route. Um, whenever I've attempted it, I have been smashed like six, seven months down the line. I have included the name as um as that. As soon as like a refresh or pen or something comes up, it will just obvious for like quite a while. Doesn't help that I was using like 400 Russian state. Okay. Yeah, that probably which probably triggered that. So that'll probably trigger a few few layers of penguin. That one will. Yeah, not just the exact match. Um, and also as as an extension of what you're saying about not using the EMDs and stuff at all. Um, I'm actually like less and less using exact match or part match even whatsoever. I'm doing the on page to like be really really keyword focused and then because pander it was just a load of and then just linking out linking out with a brand key phrase from the latest post. Yeah, exactly. So, so the links are the back links are just powering up the authority and the kind of position of that page whereas the actual the on page is what is actually ranking it for the keywords. The links are just giving it enough power and authority to be able to rank for that keyword. But what is actually ranking the keyword is the on page SEO that terms with the met title. Yeah, I have noticed that and I've noticed in my tests if the domain so not just the page style if the domain actually contains the key phrase you're trying to rank for even a branded link from that site. Yeah, exactly. Skyrocket. It's just it's just passing the authority, passing that power. You know, people have even gone out there. I haven't tried this myself, but the people have gone out there and registered a fresh domain with a key keyword there. They did a long post linked out with a branded link and then they've sent a load of PBN posts and safe links at this fresh domain and it's just skyrocketed their website. Yeah. Yeah. Because you can't you can't get any more relevant any more relevant than that really. Yeah. especially and and then you're using zero to lactic ratios as well which means you're generally and that's and that's something that I try and stress to people when they ask me how should I build PBN links I always try and say build the PBN link really specific about what you're trying to rank for so that um you get much more weight and with that you don't need to get super powerful PBNs they carry much more weight um obviously I wouldn't rely specifically my whole SEO strategy loads of posts about my specific service and city, but a couple of those sprinkled in really do wonders and you'll need a lot less links. So, yeah, that's yeah, that's the majority of my link budget at the moment is kind of I'm trying to stay away from using too many PBNs at the moment just to like future proof myself. I'm not saying that there's I'm not saying PBN's are dead or anything here. I'm going to get quoted by that in the morning tomorrow. Have to rename our group the proper outreach group. PBN's are dead now, guys. Just working around this. No, but I'm I'm I'm generally trying to use more and more pillow links as kind of because like for example on my money pages instead of using 10 PBN links, I'm using 10 20 Q&A links, 10 20 forum links, all this stuff, but making sure that they're genuinely good links. What's interesting is this is what I've always stressed is that people are building these if wheels, these web 2.0 properties when you actually look on the internet, real website aren't getting links from these properties. So, I'm transitioning to more a natural SEO where I'm seeing where other websites in industry are getting these links and I'm going on these platforms and posting on these platforms rather than building these really spammy SEO links. Like to be honest, my SEO these days doesn't go much beyond citations and then natural generated links like answer pages, Q&A pages, forum posts, and then obviously outreach. pretty much 25% of my link profile is now PBN's and I'm relying on my outreach and all the other links yeah to there was actually in relation to the real sites not actually having links and everything together um there was actually a patent that one of the group members spotted out uh which is the only patent that he could find that was related and I think his name was Robert I'm not too sure someone can probably find the comments of who I'm going on about here um he actually found out that there was a patent The only patent he could find after searching through all the patents that Google own related to Penguin was this one patent which basically talks about a seed list. Yeah. And it literally talks about how Google start off their entire process by having a seed list of authenticated sites that they say if this site has got a link to a site three layers down the way. So three links to be able to link back to that site then it's less trusted if that site is directly linking to a site. So it's so it's literally talking about getting links that real websites would have because that's what Google want you to essentially do and uh and yeah the best way to do that is trying to find ones that have authority backlinks themselves. So having links from like Wikipedia and like Forbes and that it's the best way to do it really and that's why PBN's been working so effectively because you're getting a stage two essentially link down from their first authenticated seed list of sites. Yeah. Um the next question come down in quite a bit depth. Fascinating stuff there, guys. Um, Michael Barcowski. Baracowski. I'm hoping I got that one right. See, I told you there's more names come as well. Uh, how many sites do you have, James? And do general niche I think he's referring to. How many PBN How many PBNs do I have do you have? And also, uh, do general niche links still work? Well, well, truthfully, I I have 60 PBNs down from like 300 purely because I was mainly using scrape domains. And as the years have gone on, the stats have fallen off and there's just so many good providers out there. You know, you've got Todd Foster, Diggity Links, Freedom Links. There's so many good PBM providers. Why would I go out my way to make a PBM when I can just go and rent a couple of links and then you don't have to head managing it? So, I've just got this nice little network I have maintains the few clients that I've decided to keep on and I don't need to go and build more because I can just rent them. Oh, that's pretty pretty uh pretty solid answer there. Yeah. Um, and also to the second part of that, do general niche links still work as well? Definitely. Um, for local SEO clients, what I a lot of my guys do, um, is they'll do like a travel blog or a local city blog. So, this PBM will be all about travel around this specific city they're trying to rank in. Then they'll just throw all their clients on there. a little bit risky, a little bit gray hat, but because it's very niched down, very high quality, um, and it's around that city, it's it's general in a way, but it's still around the city. And obviously for that city specific key phrases, the rankings just shoot up. So that's proof, right? Still to an extent topical relevancy. Yeah. And it makes sense because local chamber of commerce, they all sponsor each other and link out to each other. So if you make those type of websites, that's the perfect example of a general niche PBN that works incredibly well and it still looks natural and believable to Google. So if it was a manual review and you had all this insider information about your city. Yeah. In fact, that's probably better than a PBM that's about like car tint window tinted or something. Yeah. Yeah. And then if you just mention these businesses across various posts where they're located or exciting things they're doing for the community, that's a great niche PBN and they work fine. Yeah. And uh to even further that point as well, a shout out to Joash Boy from Australia. Um he uses sites where he basically he just invests like $1,000 into a uh into a premium domain from the auction. It's like a 10-y old domain, but it's got, you know, 2,000 referring domains. Yeah. Doesn't even make it niche relevant. just rebuilds a site in web archive and then just links back scrum which what I sent you back earlier he uses image links or he uses even cloak links in sometimes and just links back and because of the overall authority and the power of that domain doesn't need to pass relevance because it's just passing a ton of authority which at the end of the day links are a ranking signal and the other weighted factors on the page do help with the links but links are what works I think I think niche relevancy and topical relevancy is more focused on on page than it is and on your site. So having all your pages kind of niche relevant and stuff tends to be a lot more of a ranking factor than the niche relevancy of your actual back links. Obvious obviously like some links are going to be more important to have that niche relevant than others but generally it's more topical relevance. And I think what people don't realize as well is that you can't control who links to you exactly. So yeah so if you're naturally acquiring links Google has to take these things into consideration and pass the juice equally 100%. So, you know, relevance realistically in the grand scheme of things. If your link profile is solid, you can throw in a couple high powered general links and you'll you'll rank. Yeah. So, pretty easy then. Um, okay. Next on to Simon True L. I'm going to go with Trell there. He has a few questions and the first one is, "What have you been up to for the last year and a half, James? Where have you been?" I've been chilling on the beach on my laptop and traveling the world. Um, and and basically, uh, what I've been doing is I went off into the gambling niche where I built several websites in several gray market countries, let's say. Um, and we were spending almost six figures a month in links, so high five figures. That's how my link service was then born because I was simply buying links at crazy scale. Um, and what happened is we were getting up to like 800 plays, a,000 players a month. Wow. And the government basically came and said, "Look, you guys can't advertise here anymore." And they're just handing out like million-dollar fines all these different casinos. And pretty much our whole affiliate empire just got shut down. Um, which, you know, it does. Yeah, it does happen. So, I've pretty much had to start from scratch on that front while still having the existing play database that we generated. Um, and obviously I'm looking at expanding to other avenues where someone's not just going to come down and say, "Look, you can't advertise here anymore." And obviously, you know, that's the risks involved. And even the thing is, people might laugh and people might say, um, that won't happen to me, but we've just seen what's happened with Amazon where they just slashed everybody's commissions down. Some people have won, some people have lost. So, realistically, that can happen to anybody. Um, and unfortunately that happened to me where I'd built something huge and pretty much 80% of revenue from that thing was just knocked out overnight. Um, you know, and since then I've been re rebuilding the link service, building out a load of affiliate websites, nurturing my local websites, you know, realistically, um, I think we've got big opportunity with prop PBN Group and things to, you know, build build the community up again and, you know, it's really really excited to get back into the swing of things and everything. Um, but yeah. So, so, so we'll be, you've heard it here first. We'll be hearing some more James Gregory videos on the horizon. And hopefully we can get some more live streams going. We get Dy on. We get Holly on. And, you know, if you guys watched the previous episodes before, at one point we had like eight people around a big table where hundreds were tuning in every single week. So, if we can get that back up again, that's what I'd hope to do. Um, and apart from that, I've just been ranking websites. I've been active now and again, been helping people out. Um, and yeah, and generally generally just been doing SEO, live live, breathing SEO. Except now since opening up my link service, I have probably access like 90 websites and correlations and data and lots of exciting stuff that I can obviously share with everyone. More case study based. Yeah. So, I'm looking to release a lot of case studies um and obviously work more closely with Charles as well because he's he's only down the road until he till he jets gets off somewhere else again. Um, yeah. What else would Simon want to? Uh, yeah. So, he's so he's got two more questions. The first one, which is a bit of a more lifestyle question. Yeah. Um, basically he's finishing up his exams and moving full-time to Chiang Mai, a lot of people have been doing recently um in a few months time. And he's basically asking as a graduate with limited finances, limited capital, etc., and I'm moving to Chiang Mai full-time. What would your advice be for the next few months? Well, funny enough, I actually speak to Simon regularly and he's he's a really really cool guy and he's very switched on and my advice to Simon wouldn't be really SEO related because he knows what to do. If you're going to go to Chiang Mai, think I think that's how you say it. Um, I would start going to the networking events that Dignity hosts. definitely start going to all the meetups, network with other um affiliates and start maybe sharing assets and tactics, ideas and then start getting ideas on how you can scale and generally become active with the SEO community because I know that's like becoming the SEO capital of the world. Yeah, with like I think there's about 300 SEO. Yeah, I think definitely I'll be looking to go out there definitely with everyone. I'm going to be at the DT Mastermind meetup as well. I'm speaking there and we're doing a live Q&A with myself, Matt Dy. So, I'm hoping to do a live stream with him when there will actually hold you back from No, sorry. Have you Let me start this question again. Have you found that having more links from your than your competitors will hold you back due to Google or is this just Google propaganda? Um, so what he's saying there is if he's trying to rank on page one, everyone has about 10 12 links, but he has 100 links, he's not going to be able to rank fast enough because Google will see he's doing active SEO sandbox him or something. They'll sandbox him. The thing is with his industries, I that would lead me to believe that a lot of them might be hiding their links behind uh redirects or um you know, if they're just hiding their PPS, HD access. Um, so he should check, you know, for example, that video you've just released, how to find hidden PBL links, and actually get an accurate representation of how many links the competitors have and then build from that. But realistically, just don't build all 100 in one go. Build them over maybe a three, six month period of time and see how it goes. You wouldn't just approach it and just build a hundred and pray for the best. Realistically, you want to try and make it normality and look at the link velocity in the industry. Um, because if you do go in or all guns blazing, you might get sandbox for six, eight months. But in my experience, when I did that in gambling where I just from day one, 300 referring domains on the strongest websites possible, just [ __ ] it, let's spend 20k on links, the best gambling links possible. Yeah. We just got sandboxed rank 30 and literally suddenly uh probably seven to eight months in it just suddenly shot up rank five, rank three, rank one. Yeah. So it works but you'll get sandboxed for a really long time and then all of a sudden it would just pop. Yeah. So yes, that's why you need to do your niching perpetual analysis. Yeah. So you need to really drill deep if they're using hidden links. Look at the new and backlink session on Majestic. see how many links they're getting every single month and try and build around that kind of pattern. Um because again you will stand out if all of a sudden and at the same time it also depends on is it a brand new domain? Is it an expired domain? Is it an domain? Has your site been up for however many like is the site actually a pre-existing site? Is it a client site or is it a brand new affiliate site that and the thing he asked that as if he hasn't built the site yet? Yeah. He might find once he builds the site and he builds the same amount of links as everyone else he might be ranking on the first page. So it's Yeah. then work out he kind of needs to take action and and do that rather than you know just hypothetically ask that I would say um okay so that's all the S questions done we've got another one who's got a ton of more questions here from Natasha Lynch the first question which we've kind of already covered is does safe work in 2017 um I know we covered it um earlier but I think it does work in the instances where we talked about online reputation manage agement where you've got a load of properties and you just want to rent a load of links and just rank them up or get a positive article on that website to rank. But um direct at money sites English websites so google.co.uk k or google.com, I would use it very sparingly with really strict filters. And even then, hidden footer links and things are really big like red flag to Google. And even though they do work, if I was to do it, I would do a hidden 301 redirect so that no competitors could see that link, those safe links even pointed to my website. So obviously they're not there to be reported and then obviously I'll be getting the SEO benefit from that. And the only way I can actually get penalized is via the algorithm. And if it's a clean website, because obviously the safe links are clean in a sense, even though they could be compromised websites, um you're getting a website clean anchor text, a link from a clean website, and no one's there to even report that it's safe along a really balanced link profile. You can use SAPE. And I I can bet my life on this that there's a very slim chance that you would get penalized if you were to use it like that. Yeah. Yeah. But it would make far more sense to just get a couple throwaway PBNs and just use them all at tier two. Yeah, that's literally what I do. I use it tier two all day long. Yeah. Yeah. I've done it direct a few times, but that's generally when I sit I sit looking at say for an hour and find sites that would actually like I'd actually get a link from if I was out. One big opportunity though on the other Googles, you know, the Swedish speaking countries, little countries like New Zealand and things, the algorithm really hasn't caught up to the to the bigger Googles. So you can get away with blasting SAP direct at your website. You can run little experiments where you do EMDs and things and within like two months you can get some good traffic and good ranks. So if you do well I know people in the group actually do safe direct to like directed and but in terms of doing client sites long-term affiliate sites safe is would be quite risky doing it direct couple throwaway PBNs send them there or a couple really high quality outreach posts you can mix it in a little bit as well. So if you're building a hundred links you know 10 10 PBN links then just mix up one or two like what I touched on earlier you can't control who links to you. So if all of a sudden loads of websites that giving you homepage links blended in your really natural link profile of all the activities we're talking about earlier with the citations and things realistically what's five really high quality homepage links when you've got 200 really nice ones. Yeah 100% so many people don't use the int text feature as well which is just but everyone wants homepage safe links which is like just you're missing out on a lot. To answer your question, Natasha, safe links do work because links work and links are the primary ranking factor in Google. So safe links will always work regardless of what anyone says. Yeah, you'll always find links. I know people that are still don't do this, but I know people that are still using social bookmark links like rank local sites and stuff. So when people say, you know, link up work and stuff, generally they're talking like kind of [ __ ] Yeah. Um, okay. So next question out of the curve five, uh, is I publish an infographic. How would I go about acquiring links for it for an infographic? Well, it's going to be a little bit of a long winded long-winded answer, but you know, infographic submission is something I really like to do on my websites because you can just get so many crazy high quality links for pretty much pretty much next to nothing. Um, I had a really nice infographic design by um, Bulldog, Bulldog Digital Media, you know, Gareth. Um, and we basically launched a crazy campaign where we looked at visually and we looked at every single infographic in that industry, went on a refs and actually looked at every single link that they've acquired from their infographic. Yeah. And essentially stealing all these points from these infographics to make a really relevant highquality infographic, building up this really big list of people that have already links to the successful infographic and actually hitting up these people that have already landed links on that website. So, we're pretty much shorefired to get our infographic placed on that website because I've already placed a relevant infographic, but then taking it a step further and looking at their back links and their back links and just making a huge niche relevant list and we're talking like 6,000 emails where I'd blast out an email with the embed code and I would be randomizing the embed code where I'd have a little disclaimer. So, you link to the infographic, you link out to the post when you click the infographic, but the disclaimer at the bottom would actually say what my website's about and would have a partial match link to a page of my website. And I would h essentially have this spun with different links to different websites. So, when I'm doing this 6,000 email blast, I'm getting random links at random different pages across all these websites. And there's been campaigns where we've landed like 60 links. They might not, some of them might not have been the best, but we're talking some of them being government websites, really high quality educational websites now because of the spinning and because of I'm randomizing what I'm actually blasting out in the emails that embed code is sending to different pages on my website. So you have this popping off with outreach with PBNs. It's Yeah, it's a no-brainer. Yeah, that infographic, you know, I should probably make a tutorial on that because Well, there you go. Next video. So hopefully Natasha, if you go on visually, get all those successful infographics, hit up those guys that have already published infographics in your industry and steal all those really good ones. Well, obviously make them better and do a little spin-off, site those people and just contact them and you will land crazy really high quality infographic links for free. Well, there you have it. And obviously all the infographic submission websites as well there. Yeah, there's tons out there. If you literally just Google infographics websites, you'll find I think like 250 or something. But but don't go don't go on Fiverr and don't go on don't get those blasts because those blasts are really low quality and it's like a some kind of spammy press release at this. Yeah, it's literally like it's literally like people who are doing press release services on Fiverr and just doing the exact same thing, but they'll just copy and paste your Google infographic submission or look at tutorials that do it and just submit on those high quality websites and obviously put it on visually as well. But if you put your infographic on visually, there's a good chance that I will come and steal your infographic and all the links you required from your infographic. So, be careful. Okay. Uh, next question from Natasha. Um, best tiered link building strategy for 2017. Um, the best tiered link building strategy would not involve any automated tools, GSA, bookmarks. She actually did go into a little bit there which says no GSA. Yeah. Yeah. And I would pretty much what we touched on earlier, those um PBN posts, obviously don't start doing this to other people's PBNs. Um the ted strategy would be have a really high quality PBN post, really good on page in that post. Send like five safe links at it. You've got another PBN post, five safe links at that. Um I wouldn't put links everywhere throughout. Yeah. And you know what would be nice as well? Send a safe link at the homepage, but also send it directly at the post as well. So it looks like that brand new post is getting shared. I I actually just do it always just to the inner post. Yeah, just just the post. Yeah, because I don't I don't do it to the homepage. I feel as if you'd get more of a boost if you have other pages on the on the website. You interlink to that post as well. Yes. You've been like supporting content. You know, that's something I've really not I just want to touch on this. A lot of people have been ordering links from me to blog posts on their website and I'm noticing that they're going up the the phrases that they're not directly targeting because they're doing blog posts on the website and the blog posts are getting post. This is completely baffles me how it's working but the supporting posts and making the main phrases rank even after we've been sending links at the main homepage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's the topical relevance. Yeah. It's the topical relevance and it's becoming more of an authority. It's fascinating for me because I've I've always only sent links to pages that actually generate me income or money. Oh, so only money pages. Yeah. No, I Yeah, I do it. That's what I mean. So, my strategy around that kind of stuff is I'll build all the supporting blog posts around this page and then I'll put all the PBN links that I'm buying that aren't necessarily really legitimate PBN links. You know, the cheap kind of stuff that's like $10 to $50 a post. Um, I'll put all those kind of links straight to my supporting content. Yeah. with the supporting content linking back with partial and match page and that because of how Penguin 4.0 now works where it's a page by page link basis if those PBNs were to get to the index or something it would only be content that gets hit it wouldn't pass on that penalty to the internal page. Yeah. So that's so it's basically a layer of protection lowering risk as well. Yeah. That's which is funny because a lot of the people that doing this are e-commerce websites. So you know that's really interesting. So 2017 the best tiered strategy is going to be sending a load of safe cheap PBN links but your high quality PBN links. Um and then obviously we touched on sending links to your um internal pages which I think is a really important post um you know move point moving forwards for 2017 I think and uh my my exactly the same for me tier link building wise just sape and sometimes cheap PBN's tier two don't really use anything else you know tier one as long as your tier one links are powerful enough they don't really need tier two links obviously it is good to power them up especially in more perpetual industries and stuff as well. Yeah, definitely. Okay, so on to her next question. What would your advice be for earning quick cash as a newbie SEO? That was Natasha again. Yeah. Yeah. We've got one more question from her as well is this question. Yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah, it's interesting because I know that she works at an agency and I was wondering why she wants to know how to make quick cash from SEO. Oh, no. Sorry. So, not sorry. As a newbie, so interesting. A lot of people would say build out ranking websites, build out affiliate websites. I personally think as a newbie SEO, the best thing you can do is stay away from all the SEO communities and circles. Learn how to sell, get a really good course and acquiring SEO clients and build your cash flow with like 10 local clients and then just simply purchase and rent links from other people and kind of learn as you go. build up your cash flow because what's essentially happened is you're getting paid before you've even done anything. Yeah. So, if you get 10 clients and they give you 10 grand, you've got that 10 grand now and you can go spend two grand on a load of PBN links and you've got all that money there to play with to then venture into other projects. But that's the fastest way to get money from SEO without essentially spending anything. Realistically, you need a good landing page and then maybe some cold email templates, some lumpy mail packages, and a bit of a personality helps as well. bit of a personality. Get some really good sales books. Grant Cardone, sell or be sold, spin selling, that type of thing. Um, work on body language, tonality, that type of thing. Go to your local chamber of commerce. Introduce yourself. Give them to people. Give them a free presentation. Yeah. Give them a free presentation. How to do onpage SEO. Give them a little business card that says, "We'll set up your social media profiles." They've paid like 25 quid, 50 quid for your social media profiles. Maybe 100 quid. And then you can then just upsell them SEO because they've already paid, you know, a little thing to get foot in the door. Yeah. Yeah. And as a newbie SEO, that is the best way to make cash. Just literally get other people to give you cash. I I think I think especially if you and as a newbie SEO, uh a complete newbie, probably the best thing to do is actually go and work for an agency and then build up your actual SEO. And it's interesting because I know Natasha has purchased links from me that she works at an agency. So I think what she's doing is she wants to know how she can escape the agency life to then become a full-time SEO which interestingly how I got into SEO because I was working at a company then I found you then you told me to go work at SEO agency and eventually I went and joined an SEO agency within six months of being there. Yeah. I've learned so much built out all my own websites got my own clients we built BHC and I just quit my job. Yeah. So realistically to do that same route to just go out there get shed load of clients get your cash flow up, nurture those clients, build something up because well the reason I gave you that recommendation in the first place was and this is still a recommendation I give to anyone who's looking to start out in SEO is go and work for an agency. Yeah. Is because number one they have all the tools paid for. So you can get access to all these tools that would normally cost $1,000 a month for all you combined if not more if you buy an agent. Majestics. Exactly. Everything. Um, and then also you get access to clients that you can play around with without spending any money. So they'll so they'll give you a budget for that client and you actually have you then go and do all the work. That's what the big thing was for me. We had some huge global brands and stuff and we had to do crazy outreach for them. We had small little local clients. Shows you how to scale as well and how to manage and how to manage clients. You learn so much working for an agency because if you just go and dive head first into making your own agency, you're going to run into hurdle after hurdle after. You learn how to communicate with clients, you learn how to do reporting, you learn how to do meetings. I'd work there and I'd got to an account manager role whereas I was face to face with clients. And if I didn't have that now, now when I go face to face with clients, I wouldn't have had that confidence. Yeah. So, it's pretty much a must. If you're a newbie newbie, go for an agency first. you know, if you're just doing a normal job, go for an agency, then go and get a load of clients. And while I was at the agency, I would come home five, be home half five, from half 5 till 12 at night, I would literally be building up my other SEO business at my lunchtime, I SEO business, and just quit your job. Yeah. Bad enough, you you'll make the time to do it. So, the time where you guys are watching Netflix at night, you know, watching funny videos on the internet. Yeah. Grinding. Yeah. Should be grinding time. Yeah. When you when you're using Grinder and Tinder, put all that energy and focus into learning SEO. Yeah. Just grinding out. Um, no. Yeah. The And to take that to the next level as well. Um, SEO jobs pay well. Like a lot of a lot of people are like, I'm working like a deadend job. Yeah. What can I do to make money now? Well, go and be a junior. For example, in the UK as a junior SEO, you can earn like a,000 to 1,600 a month as a junior SEO. And that's like a pretty good salary in the UK. As like an account manager, you're talking like up to up to three grand a month as like a manager as an manager. There's people out there in London that have just got mid-level account manager roles that like 50 60k. Yeah. A year. Yeah. Which is ridiculous. Exactly. For in terms of realistic um same kind of level as like dentists. Yeah. And obviously that's in pounds. So for the UK guys, I'd be like for the US guys that'd be like $78,000 a month. Exactly. A year. Sorry. And that's that's a career. Yeah, it is a career in itself. A career in which you're actually learning how to do SEO and you could just take all those skills and and if you don't have many living expenses as well, you can start building up your capital from that job. So you're not actually spending anything apart obviously you have to pay for your food and your rent and that but a lot of the time you can actually earn extra money. So just even 200300 for six months over that six months time that gives you a couple grand to play around with which is more than enough to build up your affiliate website or JB with someone else who's already got a few affiliate sites and then obviously you put all of your effort into that affiliate website and do all the work and have them supply some of the capital links that kind of stuff that obviously a newbie wouldn't actually be able to afford or have the connections and abilities. I still I still would stress to maybe get clients before that because I feel as if acquiring clients and being able to nurture them and keep them is a more stable income in the sense that affiliate websites could be kind of risky. Obviously I got slightly burnt when my network shut down in the whole country was just turned off from casino. Um obviously expanding your baskets um but then again you still want to focus on and master one thing. So I think the ideal path would be work at an SEO agency, build up those skills, build up your people skills, your sales skills, your presenting skills, then move over and actually own get clients. Yeah. Get clients, have your own agency, getting consistent income, consistent um clients, and then you can start scaling up that client business to the point where you're hiring someone else. They're working alongside with you. They're managing all your clients full-time because essentially I know you guys client guys will sympathize with me. Managing your clients is a full-time job in itself. You hire someone to manage all these clients and grow the agency. All of a sudden you've got an agency running itself bringing you in 10 20k a month and you suddenly have 10 20k a month to play with which is a massive amount of money in affiliate. Yeah. In affiliate or PPL rank and rent. you I think actually with that was something a lot of people a lot of the newbie kind of SEOs were trying to get into rank and rent. Yeah. And I was just saying don't do it like the problem is I actually had someone I was speaking to last week who had done a pool cleaning uh rank and rent site and he and he invested $2,000 $3,000 which is all of his money into it and then no one wanted no wanted to rent it. So like it's like that's that's one to do ranking rent on to actually be able to get your money back from it you have to on scale. So you have to do 20 sites, 30 sites to be able to have that because some of the sites just won't sell. If if you if you've done obviously if you've done your niche research everything properly, then you will be able to sell them, but some sites just won't sell. So I feel the evergreen niches that aren't specifically seasonal um where it's there's not much competition. You can get you can get up there with 10 PBN links, a load of citations, those would be the ones to go for. And I think that would be more stable than trying to make a niche site or an affiliate website. Um, but I do think that clients would be that initial step in terms of the the most stable, but also the biggest pain in the ass in the entire world. You know, I there's a reason why I cut off pretty much most of my clients because it was, you know, essentially it's not fair on them if I can't devote devote my time to supporting them and things. And sometimes you need to be clear with them, if you need customer service and things, we're not the agency for you for handhold. get you the results, but we're not getting speak to you every single day and not be your therapist. We'll give you weekly reports and we'll do short emails with each other and we'll have a monthly call. But some clients expect calls every single day. They'll be ringing you at 4:00 a.m. We've dropped five places, you know, on the Google dance and then they like start exploring into everything, come back the next things like previous SEO agencies built bad PBNs, they get penalized once you get on with them and then you've got all of that headache to deal with. But for the cash flow and the experience and I feel as if everyone has to go through has to go through that struggle to get to it. But saying that there has been a few cases for example Simon who um asked the question earlier he didn't get into client SEO he did rank and rent and he's been building up his affiliate um over years while being at school. So he's not he's not has any clients. So us saying that there's people out there that are killing it in affiliate and they went straight to affiliate. Yeah. But but that it just requires so much dedication in terms of learning and and obviously he's living at home with his parents. He doesn't have those. He doesn't have the family. Exactly. Realistically if you're you know late 20s 30s 40s 50s you you would have the good people skills required to go out there and acquire a client to be honest and that would be a much more stable form of income initially. But if you don't, if you are at home and you're kind of have no capital, but you're just in it, just [ __ ] learn everything you can, like speak to people, network, get people, get a mentor, just read every blog post that you can get your hands on, read every YouTube video that you can get your hands on and make logical decisions. Don't ever let your emotions play with SEO or you will fail. That is the problem. And just just on that, I what I found with me, I was someone that's absorbed so much information. I read your God of SEO blog front to back so many times. Um, but one of the big things with me was to actually start taking action on the information that I read. Yeah. There was I was a couple of months where all I was doing was reading. And it wasn't until I went to the SEO agency. I realized I do this action. This is the result. As soon as you have that realization, it's just literally straight on from there. You're making websites, you're ranking websites. So, it's take action on what you learn and get that first website up. Even if it's just a little local website that you're going to rent out for for like $600 a month or something, just get it. It's still $600 a month, which if if you do that yearly is, you know, $7,200 a month. So hopefully as a newbie SEO, that gives someone some clarity on what they can do and the kind of stepping stone and career path because eventually two, three years down the line, you could have 50k a month agency, 50k a month um in affiliate commissions, you know, Amazon websites, that type of thing. And and we have so many case studies like that. The amount of people that joined our group in 2014 that are now millionaires. We we've seen guys posting Lamborghinis in the group and that is literally just from taking action. So yeah, I lit I literally know people that have well just gone crazy. you know, they started out like I don't there's a specific person in the group that I won't mention his name because he's like keep low key, but he he was literally he was earning 2 million pounds a year in a job and then the recession hit in the UK completely screwed him over. The business that he was working with got like sued for going bankrupt and stuff. He lost loads of money. He's got five kids or something. Yeah. Um and just lost all his money and joined the Facebook group in 2014 and now he's got a business that employs 12 people off the back of being in a huge amount of debt as well and just like living in June being able to like support his family properly and everything. And it's incredible how much growth we've seen over the years from people. Yeah. And the group's actually coming up to three years old very soon as well. So that's cool. It was just think it was literally September. September 20 2014. Yeah. The 4th of September is when the group was created. You invite me to like tattooed on my arm. Yeah, that was that was the day we finally took all of Becca's audience, put them into our group and made this crazy following and it's just grown ever since. Um and the and the final one from Natasha and then we'll move on to that chat questions though it is coming. We've only got about 15 or so minutes left. Um what is the best way to get into affiliate SEO with zero experience? So we've kind of semi covered that but maybe we can. So that's zero experience on actually building affiliate websites. Um, and I know this is a little bit of a plug for your course, but your course for me was a real eye openener in building my recent affiliate websites, mainly the really big content pages. So, before I would make 1,000word pages, now I'm doing 6,000word pages, table of contents. I'm going um and and these aren't like really generic stuff. This is actual stuff that's going to rank around that phrase. So, I would recommend as a newbie to affiliate SEO, get Charles's affiliate SEO course because it will just save you so much hassle and headache. You you've got themes, you've got the plugins you need. Yeah. Yeah. Literally everything you go and then you know the different country affiliate links easy as plugin. I didn't even know about that which are massive eye opener for me. Um and also you access the Facebook group as well. Without plugging this too much, that's just Facebook group where you can harass me as however however as many questions you want and we'll answer. But for me, someone I that is competent with looking at a website, being able to make a clone of it or whatever, I thought that I knew everything there was to do with affiliate. And then I read your course and there was so many nuggets of information that me as someone that be advanced to building websites and things that I just couldn't believe I missed. And then I applied it to my own websites and thought, "Oh, wow. This is actually working. This is actually really cool." So, as a newbie to affiliate SEO, I would stay away from the CPA offers and things initially. hop on Charles's course, build out a really small um affiliate website in Amazon because Amazon is stable. Yeah, they like to mess up their commissions and things, but it's probably the most stable affiliate program out there realistically. And then maybe start looking at doing other offers and things and the CPA and things. Um, but realistically as a newbie getting into affiliate, it would just be build a small website around a specific niche and then just do a load of long posts on it and follow everything in Charles's course and you will be able to just crank out affiliate sites pretty much from there. Yeah. Um, um, just to like kind of because we've got we haven't got that much time left because we took quite a while answering all of those original questions. So, next Q&A ask it in the group before instead of asking them in the chat here. Um, so we'll just kind of hotfire through some questions. Uh, Vadim and someone else. Well, Vadim and, uh, Psychoactive, I like your name, asks who what are the best link, sorry, Vadim and Jerick Giron asks, who are the best link providers in the world? Obviously, your man here, James G, he's a link provider. So, yeah, I do some amazing work with outreach close to 6,000 websites now. We can get your links placed within like 5 10 days. Um, fresh posts. Charles, your your service is is ridiculous from what I've heard. Anyway, I still trying to get samples from him for free. Maybe we can do some kind of exchange, but Well, we've literally last last month, uh, Love Link had $45,000 in revenue and orders from the previous that's that's literally the first month that I started working with Dan Parker. Um, and the previous month we had like 5,000 or something, but we started marketing really heavily last month. Yeah. Um, and our orders we had like we had to place over 400 and we all had to write over 400 new links and then we had to place them. So there's a bit of a delay in orders but uh love.link link for that and then James Gregory is James something just just give me just give me an email at jamesordersmail.com but I am doing a big white label SEO brand and there's lots of things coming around that um where I'll be offering other stuff around those links um but it's going to be ced more towards SEO agencies and people looking to resell SEO and then mainly directly the businesses and things so you can just hit up the BHC marketplace um Facebook group yeah our sister Facebook group contact me through there at email through there and obviously Charles's service is bang on. Um I know Gareth Simpson he offers a more tailored uh service specifically per campaign per project as well. I've used that before in the past and I had really good results. They are really good links. And then just like other quick honorable mentions uh Diggity Todd Foster in Valley PBN Butler uh and then some various other people that I probably go at me and PM me for not mentioning. Yeah, Todd Foster's links are really really effective in one purely because he's got thousands of PBNs and he does a really good deal. 8,000 9,000. Yeah. And you can't you can't go wrong with gig these links as well. Yeah. It's just hard to get on his invite list if you aren't already. Yeah. Make sure you got a nice website. Yeah, literally. It makes you have a nice budget. Um and quickly going through I'm trying to go through this live chat. Obviously um for the citations as well, PBM Butler is really good provider, really solid. Yeah. And social signals. Um yeah, really good social signals directly through your money sites. You know, every website I make, whether it's um local or affiliate, will always get citations from PBM Butler. Um that's something I've always said since 2014. It wasn't until Diggity released his post to say, "Do you do it?" And he did the study that everyone started doing it now. Everyone's been waiting. I'm still waiting for him to give me a shout out on that post, but I think I've been waiting years for that. Um, and then there's just a quick one that I can answer. New site, link building timeline. I've literally just released a video on my channel, so just click on the channel about link building for a brand new site. Um, again from Blackthorn, it's exact same question. Uh, only successful SEOs can afford apparently only a successful SEO can afford RIP's jeans. Yeah. S Grave asks, "Is AL Alex Becker scamming?" Yes, I'm only joking. Um, well, to an extent. Anyway, we'll move on from that. He's just an example of someone that's grown very big where customer service might lack somewhere, but I think his intentions are always good and he does provide nuggets and his shares and he's got a likable personality. But yeah, he's a he's a good salesman. He's just not necessarily good SEO purely from the basis like have you have you seen his 2015 best backlinking strategy where he puts his best PBNs at tier three and then like he puts PBN's under no follow links and things like yeah anyway like I said we'll move on there press five if you like Alex Becker no Press think Alex Becker is a scam um question do you guys still do broken link building and is it worth getting a VA to do it I personally ly don't really go through the effort of doing it finding four or fours and things. I would I just have way more fun dipping into my outreach database 6,000 websites, drop a 100 links or just get a really nice infographic made. Just go head over to Bulldog, get a really nice infographic made and then just blast it out to Yeah. Like why even do broken link building? Just do just do live link building where you just literally steal your competitor's links and just offer money to all the people that I feel as if a couple hours on Majestic. You know, I did a video once using Click Hunter where you put your competitors in, see all the links that they all have where they've matched. Just hit up all those guys because they've linked to two people in your industry. There's so many things to do. If people actually sat there and looked at all these tools and looked through the industry, they could literally get so many links for free even. Yeah. Yeah. It's really So, I think that those techniques, while they're effective, um, it's more people that are in like an agency or whatever and they're just running through a checklist of stuff they have to do. Exactly. But realistically, you know, try it. If it works, it works. But, you know, going out there fixing the internet. I think realistically the only time I'd do that is if there was a really nice resource on Wikipedia, throw it on my website and then update on Wikipedia to get a nice Wikipedia link. That's probably the only time I'd do it realistically. Yeah. I wouldn't want to go through all that trouble just to, you know, get all these resources republished. Well, the the easy way to do it is literally just get your just get your competitor's money pages, top 100 niches, export their links from AHFs, stick them with Buzz Sumo, and email every single one that's a blogger saying, "I'll give you $100 for a link." Yeah. Yeah. Just do that. Yeah. And then that's better than broken link building. It's just white hats don't want to talk about that stuff because obviously it's paying for a link. Um what do you guys think about ebook syndication for link building? I think um generally ebooks um you know sometimes I'll download a book first off these little ebook websites to check it out. I know I shouldn't. If it's a good book I'll get the hard copy, but realistically those ebook syndication websites are really spammy. Yeah. And any kind of syndication any kind of syndication they'll register.info domain for like 50 cent or so. They'll get hundreds of them. Then they'll decide they want to release a syndication platform. It's like all those Fiverr press releases in submission. Stay away from all of that type of job. In my opinion with syndic syndication links only work for like really local or really low competition stuff any like that's why you never see people who are successful with ift SEO like talking about how they rank 100,000 a month monthly search keyword because you can't rank it with SEO because it's all syndicate. It's all duplicate. It's all duplicated content. Duplicate content syndicate and stuff that people don't actually even do on the internet. don't see some little business owner going right I'm just going to randomly create all these web two and interming domain authority stacking complete load of [ __ ] that is like it's it's not real cuz who who naturally interlinks all of their back links together and then I saw someone talking about interlinking their PBNs together the other day and I was like do not people out there that would actually pay money to get these services built out when for that same amount of money they could go to like Todd or Diggity get some really relevant PBN links and get crazy booze Yeah, it's literally it's just insane. Like you're literally just putting crazy risk on your website doing these autogenerated spammy looking techniques ridiculous for very little if any SEO gain. Yeah. With money that you can just be putting into PBN. Um I quickly answer this one. Do you think the UK Google algo is up to date like G.com is? It's the uh UK and Google US are literally the exact same algorithm. I see like maybe like a couple hours of delay between when penguin updates and panda updates and things get rolled out. But uh I think it's the exact same kind of platform it's running. It's only countries that are different languages generally to English that are running other kind of services. I know like for example Google Japan um they had a web master team that their biggest achievement from like a whole two years of work was hitting seven people's PBN networks and I was like seven people's PBN networks across a whole country's SEO. That was just insane. from big networks. Yeah, that but I don't think that's what I mean. I don't think it was. I think it's just they don't have the kind of teams that So, interestingly, from from what you said about um how often the refreshes, what would what would the type of timeline be, you know, as a rough guesstimate of when these alos are refreshing? You know, if someone was to go out there and take one of our safe techniques, for example, and blast it on their website, how long would that kind of stuff last? I think it depends language to language. Is it weekly like Google claim? No. to from my from my experience I don't think it's weekly at all. I I'm seeing fluctuations almost once a month that could indicate something al change in an algo I think now especially at the moment Google trying to make it they're trying so many different things. Yeah because like literally there've been updates every month for like the last few months now and I think they are trying to make it so that it's just consistent fluctuation. They don't necessarily need to make that fluctuation affecting people. they just need to put enough fear into people's heads that there's that there's this massive swings all over the place to for them to either leave SEO or stop trying to use certain tactics. Yeah. Um generally all this kind of stuff is literally just propaganda. So it's like trying to make you fear their algorithm rather than making their algorithm better. And it's interesting with what's happening with the repurposing sandbox of registering expired domains and having to wait like 35 days to link out. Google are now putting that fear into people saying they'd stop using the spy domains when free to register expired domains still give you SEO benefit. It's just they've put something there to try and warn SEOs from doing that particular tactic. Yeah. So Google are aware that we are doing SEO and they're trying to combat these specific tactics, but they do work. It's just knowing, you know, how to work around it. And that's why being part of such a big community helps because we're all sharing data. Yeah. Exactly. So it's cor we can all correlate data between everyone. Yeah. Um there's another one quickly that what is are there any must have SEO tools? I think the only one in the market really at the moment is a HF. Yeah, that everyone that that just wipes out Semrush as well. I love Seamrush. All of my best pieces of content I ever produced were always around Semrush. Always had rage reviews and stuff, but what Afs does now much bigger database drills in deeper and their clickstream data and their keyword research tool is just amazing. Um, I will say that I do kind of do comparison. I still have Semrush and I still have AHS. Yeah, I think it's nice to export from both make it into one. And for the cheaper plans on Semrush, you get more data than you do on the HFS plans. Yeah. So, it does because on HFS you have to have the $400 a month one to see the number 51 to 100 positions whereas you get the full positions for the $99 a month one. So, if you're trying to save money just to get kind of ranking dattors and do key research and stuff, Samrush is probably a lot cheaper. I I have used group buys and things, but I'm a little bit wary of what data I input into group buys. Yeah. Because other people can see because I noticed that a lot of people in group buys, they start putting all their clients websites and money websites and I don't think they realize that everybody else in this group by can see all their clients websites. Baffles me. I'll go on there to look at data, but I won't start putting all my clients websites and stuff. I I've known someone who literally steals niches from group buy like he just goes on group eye accounts and like looks at all the sites in their history and steals all the sites that you're using. Yeah, like you guys are using group buys, all everything you do is logged and you can just go back in your account and it bump maps what you did. So you can then just click and rerun that specific report and obviously people don't realize that we can just look at all your niches and things. So be careful. Yeah. And then like I buy my full Majestic package because I really do like the trust flow metric. I know everyone's gone completely off trust flow. I reach but purely for outreach and um doing really big lists of of websites getting the stats. I really I really think Majestic gives a more accurate Yeah. with a TF. I think DR though to be fair DR domain rank by AHF has improved so [ __ ] much at the moment. But I will say I don't just hate on DA. I don't just hate on TF. I hate on all metrics. All metrics. Yeah. They don't they don't work. The only metrics that work are the metrics of the bank account. Yeah, which maybe your cash flow um micro site versus authority site I think for well he says micro site versus authority site for beginners I think authority site all day long just because niche sites yeah for me it was always at the very start was always micro sites little niche sites soon as I got your course opened my eyes to actually make proper websites that target far more keywords and generate way more money less effort as well and some of the techniques that you use as well improve the SEO so much. You're actually using the same kind of links, same link value, but you're just making really nice websites. Yeah. So that's Yeah. So you make your Well, essentially all I'm teaching is make your on page and your website white hat, make your off page black hat, but obviously it's not it's black hat that's not going to get you hit. So you're not spamming your site. You're just using legitimate black hat. And then obviously there is a blend between the two where an authority site would be this big authority sites which would cover whole category but then there's many authority sites which would just do a specific pro a specific product but in that specific product there's lots of different ones. Yeah. So rather than just doing it about computer parts you would only do it about monitors but you'd go across so many different monitors to the point where you're going on TVs and things. So that could like a a way to meet in the middle. So rather than just being a niche site about something specific, really specific like 144 hertz monitors, which is an actual website where someone made it, you know that they've made this website to be a micro niche site. Hang on a sec. Hang on a sec. Let's just make all these pages and now they've got all these random different pages for all different when it's like one. Yeah. And that site gets like a quarter of a million hopefully visits or something crazy. Um, so he should have just started off as an authority site because now he's trying to build an authority website and it looks a bit weird when this website's about one specific exactly that. Yeah, that's literally all all day long. Don't go That's why I don't like EMDs or PMDs because as soon as you try to expand beyond it, it just kind of puts off users from clicking on your website because it says about the specific thing. And if you get that website, even if you get that website $10,000 a month, you're going to find it very difficult to get an EMD to $100,000 a month because you don't have the you don't have the brandability. Yeah, there's a ceiling as well on the traffic. Yeah. And and and when you actually um Exactly. Whereas if you just have a brand name. Yeah. Number one, there's no ceiling. And number two, when you come to sell the website, it's worth a hell of a lot more than it is in an EMD or PMD. Yeah. There's someone that's going to buy that website, they've got room to expand. They can go out there and spend 100 grand on content. If it's really general, all of a sudden, they've like tripled revenue. Exactly. You already got the appreciation authority. Yeah. So, you are kind of limiting yourself. Mhm. But if you just wanted to get stuck in, you can meet in the middle and do like a mini authority site. 100%. So if it was a website about hunting, for example, you could do specific hunting weapons and then just do like different crossbros and hunting knives and that type of thing on the website rather than just doing it about the whole thing to do with hunting or the outdoors. Exactly. Um Simon has a quick question. Charles, have you also had bad experiences with repurposing auction domains, your money sites? Um, I have not had bad experiences. Basically, it's just called a repurposing sandbox video again on my channel about it, which I did last week. Um, it's just purely a pain in the ass to wait two to three months. But when you do wait those two to three months, you suddenly see all of your money pages page two, page one, page three, page four. Um, so it is worth the wait. And also the age gives you more ability to have a high link velocity. You do just have to wait that initial two. And for people that are looking for auction domains, what would be the go-to places um or tools that you'd recommend? Go tools, I use registered compass, if I'm doing any kind of auction scraping. Um for actually going to places to find domains, I use TV solutions. Yeah. Uh Tom, who owns the service did have a go at me for saying that people should go and buy their moneyite domains from there because it is a PBN domain selling service, but he sells for any domain that he has listed for over $300. It's generally an age domain and you can find awesome awesome like niche niche affiliate sites in there for like like for example TV solutions. Yeah. Yeah. I bought one for example literally like two days ago that was eight years old. Eight years old 9 months had like two follow links from like Forbes and and like all sorts of websites and stuff. It was completely brandable. Um, and it was like $350 or no, sorry, $650, but I get like a nice discount because I And what And how's that doing now? Now that it was an expired domain. Uh, no, it wasn't expired. It's got the age. So, it's not it's never dropped. So, so it's an auction domain. He bought it auction. Yeah. And then he he resells them. And you've used now use it as a money site. Yeah. Now using money site, but obviously I've got to now wait the initial month or two months to get the rebranding thing even though it's a very very similar niche. And there is there is one thing that um I know Yasher had shared which was to get an auction domain and rebuild the domain exactly how it was on archive all the content all the pages and then let it rerank for its old phrases and then add all your new money pages onto it. And he says that's a way to bypass that. I'm not sure it haven't tested that comment on that one yet and there was no data behind it but he did say that by doing that um just rebuilding the old site pages like you do anyway. And then obviously if there seish history or um majestic history, you can see what kind of phrases we're targeting. Yeah. Um it's brand phrase once it starts ranking number one for its brand and everything start rebuilding all your money pages and see if those money pages rank and there's a good chance doing it like that you won't have to wait that two three months. It's almost like tricking Google and then doing a bait and switch once Google trusts you and start building off all your money pages. Um, we have got a ton of questions, but we've only got about eight minutes left. Um, so just kind of go through some besides citations. Do you recommend any kind of specific type of foundational links? Um, I literally just just citations because I'm so fixated on using my outreach links being pretty much 75% of my link profile and then PBN's being 25. I'll hit 150 citations and the only other type of filler links realistically would be stuff like manual blog comments on really high traffic pages in my industry that are branded and I'd probably do 20 or 30 of those. Um, but in terms of things you spoke about earlier about Q&A forums, that's something I really would like to get into. Um, especially with the correlations I've heard from having a link from a page that ranks for specific phrases in your industry is a really good trust signal. So if you're searching for these specific questions and they rank for that phrase and you get a link off that page, that's a a good plus signing to your website that you're around the neighborhood of traffic generating traffic and Google search traffic generating websites. So that's something definitely um and I know if you were to put something together, I'd be all over that around different foundation links purely because stuff like web 2.0, social bookmarks are also played out and it's just a massive signal to Google saying, "Hey, look, I'm doing SEO." As soon as my website goes live, I get all these social bookmarks, IFT network, domain authority stacking, link wheels, and all these link wheels and press releases from day one. Please stop using press releases as they are currently used. Um, if you're using press releases, just do it one by one. So, if you're if you're in the finance niche, put it on your own finance, that kind of thing. just do it one by one because you're duplicating and syndicating this this reference. There's a few thousand websites. There's a few platforms what I won't name, but if you've had a press release, check the actual websites are syndicated on because people have been using them as parasites and they've been spammed to death. Literally millions of being dropped and hit over. Yeah. So, like why would you want to get a a link on a website that's been spammed to death? It's no follow link anyway. duplicate content a thousand times. Unless you're actually wanting to and there's a good chance you're going to get press, the SEO benefit isn't there. That $100 will be better spent on some high quality outreach links and PBN links. Um, but definitely I really think something to put together, some foundational link um outreach for cheap links or manual links you can build would something like that to put together be really helpful. Even for me, that would help dramatically. I I just because because I've just went away from if web 2.0 all of that stuff. So I for foundational links citations only if it's obviously like local sites or something for affiliate sites. Most my affiliate sites I still I still do the thing I hate it though because it like kind of tells Google that you're trying to rank just in the US or just in the UK or something like that. Yeah. But what I feel as if it gives you a a real business presence. All the other affiliate websites don't have a real local presence. And I've gone as far I've tried to create a Google business page for my site. So these are real offices. Obviously I'm not going to verify them, but these are real physical offices with 150 sources in the US saying that this is a real office. And I really don't think that that no follow link is enough to tell Google not to rank you in other countries. All it does is give you really good Well, I' I've actually I have done I have done tests. Yeah. And it doesn't say it's not to rank you in other countries. It just devalues your potential in those other countries. So like I can be ranked number one in Google US number five. That would make sense. Yeah, that would definitely make sense in the sense that that's how Google would differentiate local searches to umformational searches by seeing it does this website have like um citation references or physical location don't rank for theseformational searches. That could be something. I haven't seen it myself and I'm using citations. I do use directories. So like best of the web, Joan, just stuff like that. And then like comments and and social profiles obviously for foundational links like Twitter, Facebook, and I know Quor is it Quora? Corora Corora Corora Corora. I know that's a big one. Going on there and just just ask like 20 questions and then just keep just keep replying to links to your website. Yahoo answers. Yeah. Yeah. Q&A links are really good. Q&A links are actually really good foundational links and pillow links for money pages as well. So I use like 10 to 20 Q&A and obviously find your forums in your industry. Yeah. Um but obviously I'd recommend foreign link building is getting harder and harder though because you need to have age and already posts and a lot of forums have restrictions on post links that as well. Yeah. And for don't use forum profiles. That's Yeah. Yeah. Um I remember forum profile links back in the day. What was that website with that link? So you'd go on just buy thousands of automated links. Well, every website back in the day that was a god of SEO. I actually bought a really big package from it back in the day. Yeah, back link emperor. Link link emperor. Oh, link emperor. It was such such a good website. So many cool things. So easy to buy. So easy to nuke your website. I used to spend hundreds all your little sliders and stuff. Yeah, I used hundreds of packages like every couple months. Um yeah, I think that is unfortunately we're going to have to wrap it up here. We've been on for like nearly an hour and 50 minutes. So unfortunately I have to go to Amsterdam now unfortunately. enjoy enjoy the local delicacies, enjoy the local fruits of their labor of the Dutch people. Um, no, but we will probably, in fact, we'll just do one next week or something. We'll do one next week. So, I'm I do have to fly again next week, unfortunately. Again, somewhere. Um, but yeah, we will we'll do some next week. Yeah, we can get on a hangout. I could be from here. We can have loads of people hop on if they want to. Yeah. Yeah. 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Yeah. But yeah, uh thanks for having thanks for being on the show, J. Yeah. Getting you on the on the couch. Hopefully hopefully this will be like a more regular series. This is the first broadcast I've ever done on YouTube. So, uh hopefully we're pretty good. So, thanks everyone for coming. I'll hopefully see you in the next episode. And thanks James for being on the really enjoyed it. I learned a ton from you from you as well. Um yeah, so we'll see you next episode. Have an awesome day. Peace. Peace, guys.