Clayface: The Most Controversial DC Movie?
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This video provides a detailed breakdown and review of the DCU film 'Clayface,' focusing on the plot, character performances, Easter eggs, and the reviewer's mixed feelings. The reviewer praises the lead actor's performance but criticizes the supporting characters, dialogue, and missed narrative opportunities, ultimately concluding that the film is 'okay' but fails to reach its full potential.
The video is a breakdown and review of the DCU film 'Clayface,' part of the 'Gods and Monsters' chapter. The reviewer follows Matt Hagen's revenge story and discusses Easter eggs, positives, and negatives.
Matt Hagen is a big star in Coast City (home of Hal Jordan). He's up for Oscar nominations, competing with films like 'One Bad Day' and 'No Man's Land,' which are based on Batman graphic novels. The story explores the idea that one bad day can turn someone into a villain.
Tom Rhys Harries, who plays Hagen, is the standout. He carries the picture, excelling beyond the material, and skillfully transitions between being sympathetic, affable, and corrupted by power.
The reviewer felt the movie fell flat with most side characters, especially the mobsters. Compared to 'The Batman' and 'Penguin,' these characters feel like a step down, with dialogue described as 'Sony level.'
The Sabo crime family, led by the boyfriend of Mia, cuts Matt's face as a mark. The dialogue is cartoonish, and a subplot about Sabo killing Matt's dad is introduced but never developed, feeling unnecessary.
Matt is unable to fight back due to corruption in Gotham. Witnesses are bought, and corrupt cops are portrayed without depth, unlike in 'The Batman.' The corrupt cop character is dropped after the hour mark.
Characters like Matt's agent appear only briefly and add nothing. Aaron Paul has a split-second cameo as Matt's dad, suggesting a cut flashback scene. IMDb lists a young Matt Hagen actor who isn't in the film, indicating cut content.
Matt undergoes a radical nanotechnology treatment led by Dr. Caitlin (Naomi Akiyama). The love plot, while criticized by some, adds a personal dimension. Caitlin's brother died from Huntington's disease, a nod to DC lore.
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After trials, Matt's face is fixed, but it starts melting. He becomes addicted to the nanotech, and emotional spirals trigger changes. A tense airplane scene and a later club scene are standout moments.
Injecting the entire substance gives Matt healing and shapeshifting abilities. He uses these to hunt down those who wronged him, with nods to 'The Godfather.' The scene with his betraying best friend is emotionally strong.
Despite being labeled a DC horror movie, it feels more like 'Venom' with an R rating. There are creative kills and body horror, but it doesn't reach classic horror levels. The effects are impressive for a small budget.
Matt kills Mia and cuts Zabo's face into the same scars he received. He bleeds into Zabo's face, and the particles pull back together, a solid death that makes the most of the concept.
Caitlin discovers Matt's true identity and uses a taser, then activates a kill switch that fries his nano machines. He seemingly dies in the sewers, but as Clayface, it's hard to kill him.
The final look is a 'big blob glob man' with a human face to allow Tom's performance. The reviewer understands the choice but feels it's 'muddled' and will be a point of contention.
The reviewer discusses the 'Surf Dracula' criticism, where things are teased for ages. The ending shows Matt, disguised as a homeless man, living in the sewers with a fantasy of Caitlin, unable to accept his true self.
No post-credit scene was shown at the screening. The character continues in 'Creature Commandos,' and James Gunn has hinted his death was exaggerated. The reviewer isn't eager for a sequel.
The reviewer has mixed feelings. Mike Flanagan wrote the script but distanced himself, and the film feels underdeveloped. Compared to 'Joker,' it fails to build supporting characters. The reviewer suggests watching 'The Fly' instead.
As the third DCU film, it's 'okay' but not genre-changing. The reviewer worries DC needs a home run to compete with Marvel, especially after 'Supergirl' bombed.
The reviewer addresses toxic fan discourse, including false accusations of racism. He criticizes confirmation bias and cult-like mentalities, urging civil discussion.
Clayface is 'okay' but needed to be great. It had potential but was held back by underdeveloped elements. The reviewer fears DC's monster movies might end up like 'Sony Spider-Man villain' films.
Lead Performance
The reviewer highlights Tom Rhys Harries as the film's standout, showing how a strong performance can elevate weak material.
01:12Powers and Revenge
Explains the core mechanics of Clayface's abilities and how they drive the revenge plot, which is central to the film.
07:39Final Look Controversy
The reviewer predicts the final look will be a point of contention, showing the balance between comic accuracy and actor performance.
10:29Mike Flanagan's Distance
Reveals that the original scriptwriter distanced himself, which may explain the film's underdeveloped elements.
13:19Fan Discourse
The reviewer criticizes confirmation bias and cult-like fandom, a broader commentary on toxic fan culture.
15:38[00:00] and in this video, we're breaking down Clayface. The next chapter in the DCU saga is now here, and this is leading into the latter part of
[00:14] Gods and Monsters. In this movie, we follow Matt Hagen, who goes on a twisted tale of revenge after being cut up by mobsters. In this video, we're going to be going through the movie, discussing some of the Easter eggs, and also talking about what I liked and what I didn't.
[00:27] I have some pretty mixed feelings on the film, um and kind of want to explain my positives and negatives. And it's going to be hard, mate, cuz I've I put a tweet out the other day, and people did not react well to it. Woo, but we'll see how it goes. Can we have some nuance, please? Can we
[00:43] [ __ ] But, we join Matt Hagen, who's a big star in Coast City. This is the home of Hal Jordan, and it got mentioned in Latin, so it's a nice little lead-in to start here. As we see, Matt is currently up for Oscar nominations, and it seems like he's having the time of his life. Amongst
[00:56] the films he's competing with are One Bad Day and also No Man's Land, which, if you're a fan of DC, you'll know are based on Batman graphic novels. The story for this film focuses around the ideas brought up in the former, in which person just needs to have one bad day to become the Joker.
[01:12] Torres. Now, from the off, Tom Rhys Harries, who plays Hagen, is the person that really carries the picture. The guy is phenomenal throughout, and he really excels beyond the material. He just bounces
[01:25] about perfectly when it comes to tone, and goes from being a sympathetic man who's at the end of his rope to a lovable, affable guy, to someone with all the power in the world who's ready to use it and be corrupted by it. I definitely think he's got a bright future ahead of him, and he's
[01:38] by far the best bit of the movie. Which, yeah, where did you leave? Obviously, you need to be. Unfortunately, where I felt the movie fell flat was in most of the side characters, especially the mobsters. The Batman and Penguin showed what you can do with these complex characters that just
[01:51] ooze evil in a really subtle way. On the flip side of this, these guys really feel like a step down, and are pretty much just a Batman away from being like, "It's the freaking bat." Actually like David Dencik too, who plays the main guy, and I think he's great in like Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy,
[02:07] he really sells himself as a mobster, but the dialogue to me was just kind of Sony level. So far, as good as he is, he's still only playing to that level of writing. What we have here
[02:20] though is a Sabo crime family whose leader just happens to be the boyfriend of Mia. Matt brushes this off at the club in all his arrogance, and the bosses come to leave him with a mark that he won't ever forget. Right from the off though, like I said, this felt like Sony level dialogue,
[02:33] and he even admits to killing Matt's dad when he was younger. It's just really, really cartoonish, and the worst thing is, it didn't even need to be in the film. Matt doesn't ever set out to avenge his dad, and never really brings up the fact that he killed his dad again. But he was in Gotham
[02:47] researching bats when he died, and he did it. Yeah, just really dropped the ball with that, I think. But he cuts his face up, and Matt recovers as a broken shell of the man he once was. To make things worse, due to the corruption in Gotham, Matt's unable to really do anything to right the
[03:00] wrongs. He's beaten in court, and lies are spread about him because Sabo buys off the witnesses, and has Matt's pals and partners in his pocket. I think the police force and corruption is just another way the film really stumbles, and there just isn't really that much depth to the corrupt
[03:14] officers. Again, not to bring up The Batman, but there we really see what the crooked cops are like beyond just the surface, and how they manipulate the system and all those around them. Here, it's just like, "Hey, that's a nice watch." And the the cop is obviously corrupt. Even with that, he shows
[03:28] up down the line from time to time, but just gets dropped, and doesn't come back into the picture at all after a certain point around the hour mark. So it's just constantly dropping the ball with stuff. There's also characters like Matt's agent who he has an argue with at a premiere, but she's
[03:42] neither in the film before or after. So it's like, "Why even include this character when it doesn't really add anything?" Beyond that, there's a cameo by Aaron Paul as Matt's dad, but he's only in for like a split-second shot, and that's all we get. Now, because of that, I couldn't help
[03:56] but think there was probably a flashback scene on the cutting room floor somewhere where Paul got to really portray his father. They touch upon how he was abusive and made Matt's life hell, but I think it could have been a great case of show, don't tell. But, I'm not a rapper. Looking
[04:09] at the IMDb cast list as well, we know that Seth Isaac Tammic played a young Matt Hagen, and he isn't in the movie. So, yeah, there was definitely some stuff cut from the film. Anyway, Begins. Since then, it's become a staple of Gotham and is basically the worst of the worst of the
[04:26] worst, sir, with honors. So, here that Matt comes across a radical new nanotechnology treatment that potentially has the ability to heal him. Led up by Naomi Akiyama's Dr. Caitlin, she's someone who's been shunned from the science world where her partner's also taking her work and leaving her
[04:40] in the dirt. Makes a nice parallel to Matt, and I think Akiyama's really, really strong in the film, too. I have seen some reviews that talk about how the love plot felt a bit forced, but honestly, I can think it added to the movie. I think it's important for Matt to stop focusing on his career
[04:53] and look to attach to something in his personal life, and having him falling in love with her, it makes the movie feel, yeah, more personal. It creates a love triangle where she's stuck between her patient, Matt, and her fiance, John, who's one of the only good cops in Gotham. We learn that
[05:07] Caitlin's brother died from Huntington's disease, which in the comics is what Mr. Freeze's wife, which is another DC classic, but that was a change to McGregor's syndrome, and yeah, Alfred suffers
[05:20] from it. In this film, though, is unable to do human trials, but Matt puts himself forward and signs away everything to have himself worked on. Now, there's still a hell of a lot to talk about, and we all going to get into the rest of the film after a quick word about our sponsors. So, it
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[06:59] go check out that link in the description. Thanks. Anyway, after the trials continue, Matt's face is fixed up, and it seems like everything is coming up Milhouse. However, his face starts to melt from time to time, and as he gets addicted to the nanotech and keeping
[07:12] things in check. The changes are brought on by him spiraling emotionally, and we get a really great scene on an airplane. I was really tensing up when he was cutting through his eyelids, and that and the later club scene are like the two standout parts of the movie for me. Now, he realizes that
[07:26] Caitlyn grounds him, and emotionally, she becomes his anchor. His face gets worse and worse, though, and he ends up going overboard and injects the entire substance into his face. Now, this is where his abilities are really taken in the next step, and his skin and blood cells have
[07:39] given him healing abilities. Anything cut off or removed will make its way back to him in order to retain his full form. Beyond this, he's also able to change how he looks. He ends up going on a hunt for revenge against those that wronged him and he uses his shapeshifting abilities to appear
[07:52] like them and fool witnesses. This is the real heart of the movie and we watch him move through those that wronged him while John follows the case. We get some obvious nods to The Godfather. I knew it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart. I think the scene with his best
[08:11] friend who betrayed him is a really great moment where Tom just gets to play up how heartbroken this guy feels. He even plays as him just to go and taunt Mia who's working as an actress in the film. It's stuff like this where I think the movie soars, but actually don't think it goes
[08:24] far enough. It's labeled as being a DC horror movie, but I actually think it's more along the lines of Venom with an R rating. Like if you said Joker was a horror movie, it's kind of along the same lines as that. There are some creative kills though and they do a lot with the body horror,
[08:39] but they don't quite push things to the level that I would really look back on this in many Halloweens to come and be like, "Ooh, let's put on Clayface tonight, the classic horror." This revenge plot I did feel was satisfying though and after Zabo sends his goons to get Caitlyn,
[08:52] Matt takes one of their forms and infiltrates the nightclub where he first met Mia. There's some really good moments during this and the quick cuts as they swap out actors as Matt changes shape is completely seamless. I'd love to watch some of these moments in slow motion to see if I can
[09:05] spot where they stitched together, but you really have the actors all remaining in the exact place, so it's so difficult to tell. I will say as well the movie has some great effects and considering it's got a really small budget, they do make the most of it. Well, outside of how Clayface looks,
[09:20] this including a big fat smiley face drawn on the window and Hagen's shadow beating Zabo's henchmen with a giant spiked hand. Eventually he gets to the mob boss and after killing Mia, he cuts his face into the same scars that the boss originally gave him. He bleeds into Zabo's
[09:35] face and then the particles pull themselves back together through his pores and orifices, which is a really solid death and I think it makes the most of the concept. But, things aren't over and the investigation starts closing in on Matt. After professing his love to Caitlin and it clearly
[09:49] being him behind the crimes, John confronts him at his apartment. Matt denies everything and we then join Caitlin returning home having gone over all the files on Matt. She confesses the truth to her fiance who then reveals himself to be Matt in disguise as she discovers her fiance's body. It
[10:03] feels very akin to the fly and considering the movie so much from it, I was actually thinking this might be where they take the final showdown. Caitlin shocks Matt by using a taser though and he begs for death as she activates the kill switch which fries all the nano machines in his body.
[10:17] This sends him to a seemingly watery grave in the sewers, but as we know with Clayface, a guy's made out of clay, it's very hard to kill. Now, I do think the final look of Clayface is going to be something that a lot of people go back and forth on. He's a big blob glob man,
[10:29] which technically is what Clayface is, but they also try and keep his human face in there too, so they can have Tom's performance come through. Now, I'm going to say I totally understand that and I think they probably created countless versions of his final look where some would have been closer
[10:44] to the classic look from the comics whereas others would have been more human in appearance. Like a a man made out of mud. I think this is probably the middle ground they settled on, but because of that, feels a bit, I don't know, muddled for for lack of a better word. That wasn't terrible for
[10:59] me and I understand why they ended up here, but I know it's going to be a big point of contention. Surf Dracula has become a big talking point in the wake of Lantus and in case you don't know, it's basically built off a tweet about how back in the day, if you had a show called Surf Dracula,
[11:13] then every single week you'd see Dracula surfing. These days though, you need to have things teased out for ages and ages until like the final scene finally has Dracula picking up the surfboard. It's a criticism that was levied heavily against Lantus. However, I do understand why they did
[11:27] it there and here. But, Haegan is now seemingly gone and we see Caitlin trying to get back to her regular life. Added to the fact that Matt can look like anyone, she constantly finds herself looking around seeing people in the crowd and wondering if it's him. She's approached by a homeless man
[11:41] who she gives some change, and we then follow him back to the sewers. Staring in a mirror, we see as he changes into Matt, and we find that he's joined by Caitlyn who's come to spend her life with him. then pull out to see that Caitlyn is merely just a part of Matt, and he's performing it as part of
[11:58] a fantasy. It plays upon him morphing into her earlier in the movie when he was asleep, and it looked like he was getting it on with her in the bed. Ultimately, he's trapped in a well of misery though, fantasizing about a life he'll never have. Matt brought up in the film how he acts because
[12:11] it's easier than being him, and putting on someone else's face has allowed him to dissociate from himself. He's now stuck in this fantasy, unable to accept who he really is, and living beneath the streets of Gotham waiting to make his move. Now, there wasn't any post-credit scene at the showing
[12:26] I was at, and I saw this at a Cineworld secret screening, which is pretty much always the wide release version of a movie. But, I've seen stuff in the past where they haven't shown a post-credit scene at things, and people have come out with reviews talking about how there wasn't one there,
[12:39] and then it turned out there was, and then people are like, "What the hell? Why did they send me to review this when it's not even got the post-credit scene?" So, if there was a post-credit scene, then please drop it in the comments below, cuz that's what they're there for. Did Clayface come
[12:51] out and say, "It's Clayfacing time?" Let me know in the comments below. But, we do know that this version of the character continues on to feature in Creature Commandos. There he was seemingly killed, but James Gunn clarified that the reports of Clayface's death have been greatly exaggerated.
[13:05] He's of course made of mushy mushy clay nanotech stuff, and can separate and come together, so even beyond Creature Commandos, the character likely survives. Whether they do more with him, we're going to have to see, but I'm not sure if I'm dying to see a sequel to this stuff. Now,
[13:19] that kind of takes me to the review, and I did walk away from it with pretty mixed feelings, and there was a lot that I think if they tweaked, it could have taken this to something that was really, really good. Great, you would say, but it just doesn't hit that height. Now, if you've
[13:33] been watching the channel for a while, you'll know I'm a massive fan of Mike Flanagan, so I was really excited when I heard he was penning the script. However, he has kind of distanced himself from the project and said they took his script and have changed some stuff and that he's not
[13:45] really sure where things have gone. I think you can definitely feel that, too, and there's a lot of things that don't really get developed here and even the Rob Brydon chat show at the start, that feels like it's setting some big things up like the ending of Joker, but it's just left by the
[13:58] wayside. Comparing it to that film, you really see where a supervillain origin story succeeds where this fails. There, the chat show teased to us at the start as part of Joker's fantasy and that's when he goes on it and it goes horribly wrong, it sends him spiraling to the point of murder. Here,
[14:12] the chat show happens for real at first and then it's a fantasy that appears later on and ends up not really going anywhere. I think the supporting characters really let the film down, too. Watching this made me realize just how important Penny and Tommy Swayne were to Joker and
[14:26] there's nothing here that's performed or written to the same level that that was, so it doesn't really help build up the surrounding elements of the film. So, for as good as the leads are, the rest of the material just lets stuff down. I think if you're just a casual, you'd probably have
[14:40] a better time just going back and watching The Fly because it does everything that Clayface does, but on a much better level. So, I am mixed and I also have to view this in terms of being the third film in the DCEU. So far, I thought Superman was okay, I didn't really enjoy Supergirl and I think
[14:55] this is okay, too. Probably my my favorite of the three, but there's nothing here that I think is going to change the genre in the same way that several of the DC films have. There's a reason that Christopher Nolan has gone on to be like the biggest director in Hollywood and yeah, it's kind
[15:09] of insane to me that we were getting like that level of a DC movie 15 years ago and this is the level where they're putting stuff out now at. So yeah, maybe I'm too old and cynical, but I can't really see this being a film that people look back on as one of those milestones, which yeah,
[15:23] the DC really needs to be doing to even be close to competing with Marvel. They needed a home run at this point. Marvel is probably going to do two two billion dollar movies this year, and after Supergirl bombed as badly as it did, I think DC Studios need some big wins, especially in
[15:38] the wake of the Paramount major. And I'm not sure this is going to be it. Now look, mate, I'm trying to be as balanced as possible, and I know without fail that I'm going to get [ __ ] for this. It's even at the point that after I posted my reaction on Twitter, I like DC accounts saying
[15:51] I made a racist review about Lanterns episode three, and the guy said I criticized it for being race bait. Meanwhile, in reality, if you go and watch the video, I said it was one of the best hours in all of the DCU and didn't bring up any race baiting at all. It's kind of wild as well,
[16:06] cuz like last week I was seeing all the backlash to Lanterns, and I started being like, "Hmm, did they They had a point on some stuff, to be fair." Like Sheriff Carrie faced no consequences, but it's worse to live in the guilt than go to prison. Hmm, is it though? Maybe maybe the
[16:20] criticism was right there. Maybe she should have gone to jail. John stole the ring off a corpse and has an unsanctioned Lantern that is made with fear. Hmm, yeah, maybe maybe you guys are right. Maybe this Maybe this is not good. So yeah, I've been thinking people are going to think I'm an
[16:33] idiot for giving Lantern positive reviews, but instead people have made up that I hated it just to say I'm racist. And hey, the DC fandom comes at you fast in ways you don't expect. I hear you're a racist now, father. I had one guy who even went back through all my old tweets to find one where
[16:48] I said the Rebel Moon trailer uh looked like Zack Snyder had a baby with Zack Snyder, and the baby came out and was Zack Snyder who made a movie called Zack Snyder. And it's like, "Ah, mate, you you you thought the trailer for Rebel Moon looked good, did you? Opinion null and void, I'm afraid."
[17:03] So yeah, the discourse is kind of tiring, and I, I, I, I need you guys to understand, yeah, that it is actually the worst confirmation bias and cult-like mentalities you can have to attach your personality to a brand, decide that everything is going to be good even without seeing it, and then
[17:16] go and accuse people of being biased because they didn't like it, even though you are the biased one in this situation. It's another level of stupid uh that I just can't stoop to. So, please keep all your comments civil, please. But I think when you hit a point where people aren't even arguing with
[17:29] your opinion, they're arguing with the perception of your opinion and like how you're a shill, and how you got paid by Marvel, or you got paid by DC to to say or write something negative or positive and they're coming up with ways that it can't be genuine rather than actually engaging with it. Um
[17:43] it just makes me think like Is this the point that we've hit with stuff? Now, I know I'm it's a very small group of people who do that. Um I know most of my audience is more mature than this, and I'm totally open to hearing you guys'opinion on the film, as long as it's civil, and we can talk
[17:57] about the movie in a way that isn't just shouting shill or hater at each other. Cuz yeah, it's just impossible to talk about this stuff. But, overall, to me, Clayface was okay, but I think this needed to be a great film. That definitely had the potential to exceed to that level. However,
[18:12] there were just some things that really held it back from hitting it. I wanted this film to show what the DC monster side of Chapter One was going to do, but unfortunately, if the rest of it is along these lines, I think we're going to end up with like a slightly better Sony Spider-Man
[18:25] less Spider-Man villain set of movies, and I'm not sure how that's going to play in terms of getting the ball back from Marvel. When watching it, I remembered how Feige's process is to basically have them make the movie, show it to him, and then he comes back with notes, and then they go back
[18:37] and fix all the stuff. Made me realize he must be some like visionary genius because they definitely haven't had that level of audience awareness in these projects. Even picking stuff like um the Gorilla Grodd thing that's coming up, it's like uh Is that the right choice? So, yeah,
[18:52] let me know your thoughts below. I'd love to hear them. Um it's just yeah, it's just another one of those films. I actually because I didn't like the last two ones, I was actually more on board for liking this. I'm like, "Well, I can't hate three films in a row." And no, I thought it was okay.
[19:06] Uh yeah, just left a lot to be desired, I think. Do you agree? Do you not? More than happy to hear all your thoughts below. If you want to follow us on Instagram as well and keep up to date with
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